The founder of PMC "Wagner" Yevgeny Prigozhin denied the retreat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from Artyomovsk

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The founder of PMC "Wagner" Yevgeny Prigozhin denied the retreat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from Artyomovsk

The founder of PMC "Wagner" Yevgeny Prigozhin denied the retreat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from Artemovsk (Bakhmut), stating that fierce battles were taking place in the city. He wrote about this in his TG channel.

According to Prigozhin, fierce battles are going on in the northern districts of the city, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are fighting for every house, there is no question of any retreat. The Russian media again hurried, wishful thinking. In recent days, rumors have been circulating that Zaluzhny is slowly withdrawing combat-ready units from Artemovsk, although Zelensky is categorically against it.



I clarify the situation. The APU is not retreating anywhere. APU fight to the last. In the northern quarters of Artemovsk, there are fierce battles for every street, every house, every stairwell. Of course, it's nice that the media want the retreat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but this does not happen either in the northern quarters, or in the southern, or in the eastern

- wrote Prigogine.

For our part, we note that groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are still leaving Artemivsk, perhaps this is not an announced retreat, but the flight of individual units. The Wagnerites themselves confirm the fierce fighting in the city and on its outskirts. According to one of the fighters, now the "musicians" are mainly confronted by Vushniks, there are almost no mercenaries in the city, they were taken out or transferred to another direction. Despite the fact that among the Vushniks there are many mobilized new wave, they surrender only if they are completely pressed, as well as when they are wounded and left without cartridges. In other cases, they resist to the last.

Meanwhile, in the Soledar direction, assault detachments of "musicians" are fighting with the enemy on the outskirts of Razdolovka, and are also moving towards Vasyukovka.

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    1. -14
      5 February 2023 11: 50
      Well, who else here wants to reach the Polish border? hi
      Imagine fighting for Kyiv, for Lvov, for Zaporozhye, for Odessa.
      How much time and what effort will it cost to take them.

      And this is Artyomovsk being stormed by the MOTIVATED infantry of the "Wagner", but it is obvious that no "Wagner" is enough for millionaires, and the mobilized do not and will not have such motivation. request
      1. +8
        5 February 2023 11: 54
        Imagine fighting for Kyiv

        Well, the smart one will not go uphill, the smart one will go around the mountain. And since there are no personnel decisions, there is nothing to talk about.
        1. +5
          5 February 2023 12: 12
          Quote: Pulkovo1942
          Imagine fighting for Kyiv

          Well, the smart one will not go uphill, the smart one will go around the mountain. And since there are no personnel decisions, there is nothing to talk about.

          Cut off the electricity, smash the sewer, in the summer from the stench themselves in a week, "raise your hands to the mountain."
          1. +15
            5 February 2023 13: 05
            Leningrad surrendered? And these won't give up. Don't be hopeful. Warriors are excellent. After all, the people are really the same, we and they.
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              1. +2
                5 February 2023 13: 57
                Quote: Shoulder straps
                And this is Artyomovsk being stormed by the MOTIVATED Wagner infantry, ...
                In an interview, Prigogine said that the task of the "Wagnerites" is not to capture the city, but to destroy the enemy, which is what they are doing.
            2. 0
              5 February 2023 14: 20
              Do not talk nonsense - "" one people, If you think that the glorification of Bandera is a normal phenomenon, then say so. In this people, yue children yawn and shout, kill the Muscovite,,. And in general, when was the last time you saw this kind of thing? Do not live by the criteria of the Soviet era. Everything has changed in 30 years.
              1. +8
                5 February 2023 14: 36
                But this is not a reason to turn into a Nazi yourself
              2. -4
                5 February 2023 14: 59
                Andrey Nikolaevich, that's why they downvote you - because 90% of the local "scribbler" are either snotty youths - who know nothing about our country - the USSR, or are "experienced" - who "know everything" and do not tolerate a different opinion. The flag is in their hands! And why do the guards of the last "grave" fight until "until they press"? Yes, because they are like rats - knocking on each other: and if someone is the first to raise his hands, his own people will bang him here, or (if he is captured and exchanged) they will be imprisoned there (in Pig-without-fat). There is only one motivation: to be like everyone else - like sheep.
              3. +4
                5 February 2023 15: 48
                I somehow got into the telegram channel of Rozhin-kolonelkassada. Brrr.
                So, if you read the comments, then the Bandera people are just an easy, unpumped version of Russian patriots. I have never seen such a quantity of Nazism, chauvinism mixed with extremism.
                If we consider that these commentators are a cast of the average Russian, then denazification should be opened in Russia.
                So, do not live on TV and try to think with your head at least sometimes.
                Not everything that is on TV and the Internet is true.
            3. 0
              5 February 2023 16: 43
              Do not compare Leningrad and Kuev. Our grandfathers, even we are no match for stamina, not like the current generation of Sumerians and Bandera.
            4. +10
              5 February 2023 16: 55
              Quote: Mishka78
              Leningrad surrendered? And these won't give up. Don't be hopeful. Warriors are excellent. After all, the people are really the same, we and they.

              This is well shown in the recently released movie "Best in Hell".
              I remember the phrases from the dialogues spaced over the time of the battle:
              "- My grandfather took the Reichstag in 45"
              And after a while:
              "- My grandfather also took the Reichstag at 45!"
              And it's true, Ukraine was Soviet and the peoples fought shoulder to shoulder, and now, because of the accumulated stupidities of the leadership, they go and go against each other, brother against brother!
              1. -1
                5 February 2023 22: 25
                The Nazis are not my brothers, no, but you, maybe yes.
            5. for
              0
              5 February 2023 16: 57
              Quote: Mishka78
              Warriors are excellent.

              And besides, stubborn and fanatics.
            6. -2
              5 February 2023 22: 23
              It is extremely incorrect to compare Leningrad that did not surrender with the stubbornness of the Ukrainians, the motivation is different. Ours stood to death for themselves, for their land, the Ukrainians, in fact, are trying for the West. Their land has already been half sold to Monsanto, they are fighting for the opportunity to be slaves on the lands sold to the West.
              And finish, please, about "one people", Ukrainians are really Europeans, well, just that's the third grade.
        2. +4
          5 February 2023 12: 32
          Well, the smart one will not go uphill, the smart one will go around the mountain.

          In this case, this saying is not how much is appropriate. How do you imagine leaving a large settlement with a large military garrison in your rear?
          1. +7
            5 February 2023 13: 24
            Where is he - the garrison? If everyone is thrown into the Donbass, including TRO. Where can I get a replacement for equipment if the West is going to supply a few units? What will the millionth city eat if supplies are cut off? A large city has a certain stability, but only for a limited time. An ideology such as Nazism with elements of mysticism can quickly conquer and mobilize society, but everything collapses just as quickly, especially if the young generation brought up by this ideology is killed. They will break, if not immediately, but they will break. Kill another XNUMX and make the same number disabled. By the way, in terms of losses. our Defense Ministry gives figures even more modest than NATO, because. The MoD knows approximately how many of the enemy were killed, but does not know how many died from wounds, but they do. They cannot provide qualified assistance to the wounded because of the overload of medical facilities, and delivery to Poland, Romania and Germany takes time. They also say different attitudes, like, ours are fighting for life to the last opportunity. and they ignore especially heavy ones in order to save more promising ones. Where, where, and here is the merit of Shoigu, who did a lot of good work in the Ministry of Emergency Situations in coordination with the All-Russian Disaster Medicine Service and the Moscow Region were well trained to deploy medical facilities and build logistics during a pandemic.
            1. +6
              5 February 2023 14: 41
              Where is he - the garrison? If everyone is thrown into the Donbass, including TRO. Where can I get a replacement for equipment if the West is going to supply a few units?

              It’s good, at the beginning of the summer, such generals like you were shouting at the VO that they were completely demoralized and not capable of an offensive, as a result, they received a surprise in the fall. But even the founder of the PMC, Prigozhin, says that Ukrainians everywhere resist and counterattack, even as those who are forcibly called up like to write in our country. And they will pick up cannon fodder, you don’t doubt, and the “friends” will supply them with weapons, and what you will supply, don’t even doubt how much tax they will supply ... It’s not for nothing that even here in Russia they say that this conflict will not end soon.
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          2. +4
            5 February 2023 13: 34
            Half a million Mariupol was also left in the rear hi
            1. -3
              5 February 2023 14: 46
              Half a million Mariupol was also left in the rear

              But before that, having stormed for more than a month and drove kaklov into the Azovstal dungeon.
          3. -2
            5 February 2023 16: 33
            Quote: private person
            Well, the smart one will not go uphill, the smart one will go around the mountain.

            In this case, this saying is not how much is appropriate. How do you imagine leaving a large settlement with a large military garrison in your rear?

            So this would be the tactics of mattresses used in Iraq, when the army bypassed the cities and moved on, cutting off supply lines, and aviation and artillery knocked out any resistance in the blocked fortified areas, regardless of the losses in the civilian population, writing off the civilians as collateral losses. But we do not act like that, because, unlike the mattresses that carpet-bomb cities and kill foreigners and infidels, we have a complex of a common Slavic home and a single faith. Although, after yesterday I watched a video with a patriotic song ukroanimation of puppies about "yellow-winged" birds carrying viruses on Muscovites and other shit born in the inflamed brain of an animator, I realized one thing - Ukraine should not exist in any form. Not half, not a quarter, nothing at all that would bear the name of Ukraine.
            1. +2
              5 February 2023 17: 29
              So this would be the tactics of mattresses used in Iraq, when the army bypassed the cities and moved on, cutting off supply lines, and aviation and artillery knocked out any resistance in the blocked fortified areas

              There, the Americans had 100% dominance in the air and on the ground, and the air defense of the Iraqis was destroyed in the first hours of the attack by the coalition led by the Americans.
              1. -2
                5 February 2023 20: 09
                Quote: private person
                There, the Americans had 100% dominance in the air and on the ground, and the air defense of the Iraqis was destroyed in the first hours of the attack by the coalition led by the Americans.

                Yes, I don’t argue with the fact that the mattresses had air superiority there, I’m just talking about the fact that they worked in Iraq that way, tying up part of the enemy’s military units in a certain sector of the front and at the same time bypassing it along the flanks deep into the territory , as a result of which they left him in the rear for disassembly by means of aviation and artillery, while depriving him of the opportunity to receive reinforcements and second-hand supplies. This is me to what you originally write - "
                How do you imagine leaving a large settlement with a large military garrison in your rear?

                In a previous comment in response to your question, I only pointed out that -
                So it would be a long-established mattress tactic used back in Iraq, when the army bypassed the cities and moved on, cutting off supply lines, and aviation and artillery knocked out any resistance in the blocked fortified areas
                As I understand it, we have no fundamental contradictions, but there are different interpretations.
      2. +3
        5 February 2023 11: 56
        There are not enough disabled people in Ukraine, a garrison for millionaires will be enough. Everyone has already been driven to Artemovsk. Razie that the tsipsot will be armed and driven into the trenches, but there is a problem - they don’t give out a keyboard in the trenches, and it’s bad to shoot with a mouse
        1. +6
          5 February 2023 12: 04
          Quote from Bingo
          There are not enough disabled people in Ukraine, a garrison for millionaires will be enough. Everyone has already been driven to Artemovsk. Razie that the tsipsot will be armed and driven into the trenches, but there is a problem - they don’t give out a keyboard in the trenches, and it’s bad to shoot with a mouse


          They will recruit new ones. In Ternopil, they conducted a mass roundup of men of mobilization age.

          On Thursday, February 2, Ternopil looked like a huge filtration camp. Dozens of military and police patrols appeared in the city, which handed summonses to men right on the streets, as well as at gas stations, catering establishments and shopping centers. Local residents talked about minibuses into which men were stuffed and taken directly to the military registration and enlistment offices. But this time the raid on the mobilized had a peculiarity - "mobile military registration and enlistment offices" at almost all exits from the city. They checked everyone, even the passengers of regular buses. An unofficial list with the locations of such checkpoints was circulated on social networks. Moreover, the vast majority of the military, both at checkpoints and as part of patrols, arrived in Ternopil from other regions.
          “Someone said that men were being forced into police cars, someone said that they were handing subpoenas to everyone en masse. Our journalists went to the streets of Ternopil and out of town to see with their own eyes who was checking what. They were also stopped,” he said. local TV channel T1. Representatives of the military registration and enlistment office explained that they stop all vehicles in which there are men. The task of the military is to check the documents and establish the identity. If questions arise, they actually hand over subpoenas.

          https://dzen.ru/a/Y93uBFeUuQp1FRHv
          1. +7
            5 February 2023 13: 47
            And they got to the Galicians, but until recently they were revered as sacred cows.
            Welcome to fertilizers for Donetsk land.
        2. -3
          5 February 2023 12: 19
          Quote from Bingo
          Razi that the tsipsotu will be armed and driven into the trenches

          Tsipso as soon as it “smells of fried”, before Europa they will give a tear, only the heels will sparkle, and they will leave Zelka and Nenko.
          1. +14
            5 February 2023 13: 03
            Question from the audience: "How does the mass mobilization of everyone - whoever gets on the streets and the lack of motivation among the vuk" is combined with Prigozhin's statement "APU fight to the last. In the northern quarters of Artemovsk, there are fierce battles for every street, every house, every stairwell."? Except for the feeling that they personally hang noodles on my ears, I have no answer. Yes, and they don’t lose control at any level. Neither tactical nor strategic. These are my thoughts. Tsipso - throw slippers.
            1. +7
              5 February 2023 13: 37
              How do mass mobilization, lack of motivation and the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine fight?
              Yes, I think there is no contradiction here. After all, since he was at the front, it is necessary to simply survive. So they are fighting, at least for themselves. Why not just give up? There, they are told such stories about the atrocities of Muscovites, and even more so "Wagner", into their ears that this is not an option for them.
              1. +2
                5 February 2023 15: 50
                Doesn't "beat". If you are in a trench and "need to survive" - ​​it's easier to give up. Propaganda doesn't work here. You see everything with your own eyes. Who is who. A recent video of how they kick their own bitches, drive them into positions or kick them right in the trench, and at the same time they are not afraid of a shot in the back from such "educated ones", to put it mildly, is surprising.
        3. -4
          5 February 2023 12: 38
          Quote from Bingo
          Razie that the tsipsot will be armed and driven into the trenches, but there is a problem - they don’t give out a keyboard in the trenches, and it’s bad to shoot with a mouse

          See how many Tsipsyata immediately threw minuses. drinks
          1. -4
            5 February 2023 12: 57
            Quote: Sarboz
            See how many Tsipsyata immediately threw minuses.

            Duc))) The lower hemispheres of the brain shrink with fear)))
      3. +13
        5 February 2023 11: 59
        So many times on the forum it was said that the tactics of direct assault on the enemy's fortified areas always require more time.
        Detour maneuvers and the encirclement of fortified areas require large masses of troops and equipment ... this is a classic.
        request
        All this has already happened somewhere.
        1. +2
          5 February 2023 12: 14
          What is happening with Ugledar there? There is little information, apparently stalled
          1. -2
            5 February 2023 12: 40
            I'm sorry, what. Everywhere one situation. Reinforcements are on the way. Then the mousetrap slowly collapses. There are many mice. There are many mousetraps. Mice don't give up. It will take a lot of time to clean up. The good news is that from Zaporozhye to Seversk the mousetraps are "arranged"
      4. -10
        5 February 2023 12: 03
        Why will the mobilized lack motivation? They didn't take it forcibly. Who did not want to go, he squinted. Wagner has no more motivation. The same money. Many of those mobilized after the holidays are sent back. Many will continue to serve. If, after the reduction of the army, it does not happen again, which is already unlikely. Since the size of the regular army was decided to increase. It was planned for a long time. They waited until the combat readiness of the army exceeded 70%. I don't mean the latest weapons. And when all the equipment is on the balance sheet on the move, the equipment is available, combat training is completed
        1. +9
          5 February 2023 12: 07
          Wagner has no more motivation

          You are wrong. Wagner has lured away a huge number of thoughtful professionals who do not want to waste valuable time under the guidance of incompetent bosses in a well-known government office.
          1. 0
            5 February 2023 12: 25
            I don’t understand what the problem is to organize the training of at least commanders on the basis of Wagner, if they have successful experience?
            1. +4
              5 February 2023 13: 22
              I'm sure everything is already organized. It's just that they don't shout about it on every corner.
          2. -4
            5 February 2023 12: 44
            Quote: Pulkovo1942
            Wagner has no more motivation

            You are wrong. Wagner has lured away a huge number of thoughtful professionals who do not want to waste valuable time under the guidance of incompetent bosses in a well-known government office.

            PMC "Wagner" is under the control of the state and the GRU and I'm sure they created them for specific operations around the world ..
            Russia benefits from this semi-official structure .. And they showed themselves well, judging by the squeal of the US Congress that recognized them as terrorists and the Anglo-Saxon Mozart PMCs escaped from the outskirts hehe

            Such things are men, think, analyze, do not believe ..! But you must love Russia and everything connected with it
            PS No wonder Prigozhin was awarded the highest award in Russia and more than one .. Deserved!
            1. +3
              5 February 2023 13: 29
              Thank you for the video! Musicians glory and respect! With minimal losses!
        2. +5
          5 February 2023 12: 21
          Quote: igorbrsv
          Wagner has no more motivation. The same money.

          Wagner gives a chance to go through purgatory and get the opportunity to start life not only from scratch, but also to receive the well-deserved respect of a military hero. So money is secondary here, although it remains a pleasant addition ...
          1. +1
            5 February 2023 14: 57
            "Blessed is he who believes" and "you can't wash a black dog white", by the way. hi
          2. 0
            5 February 2023 15: 22
            Quote: isv000
            So money is secondary here, although it remains a pleasant addition ...

            About the fact that the main motivation in the war is money, only those who have never been in the war themselves can say.

            Neither our nor they gnaw their throats for money. For the money, the Mozarts came, twisted their noses - and in fig that money ...
            Yes, maybe many "Wagnerites" go for money or for "indulgences". But they are not fighting for them. We, perhaps, fought for "international assistance to the fraternal Afghan people" and other crap that the political officer carried in political classes? Or for a medal "From the grateful Afghan people"? And they did only what M. Kozhukhov showed in the program "Vremya" - they distributed flour and built roads?

            War is war, and a political officer is a political officer. Let him mumble - you can take a nap for an extra two hours a week. Our political officer pretended not to notice. We do not interfere with him, the deputy political officer, to do business, he does not interfere with us.
            1. +1
              5 February 2023 15: 32
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              We, perhaps, fought for "international assistance to the fraternal Afghan people" and other crap that the political officer carried in political classes? ... War is war, and a political officer is a political officer.
              And one more thing: zampolit to zampolit - discord. The political officer told us that there should be no NATO bases with missiles in Afghanistan. Therefore, many statements from the heart wrote: "I ask you to send me to provide international assistance to the fraternal Afghan people ..."
              1. +1
                5 February 2023 21: 39
                Quote: Stanislav_Shishkin
                The political officer told us that there should be no NATO bases with missiles in Afghanistan.

                But today life shows that the political officer did not lie to you. And the fact that they are not there today is not at all the good will of the United States.

                Quote: Stanislav_Shishkin
                Therefore, many statements were written from the bottom of their hearts: "Please direct me to provide international assistance to the fraternal Afghan people ..."

                My classmates in full strength wrote in the military registration and enlistment office - all 12 boys of my tenth grade. No one got in, only me. But it wasn't because of the announcement. My father was the right person, he himself gave the best years, health and, as it turned out, life to the army. For his merits, he had some influence on such things. He believed that his son (that is, I) should serve, and not "paint the grass." But that's another story. There, where I served, according to the application, they just didn’t take it. By selection only.
                We, in the troops, have already been told that if you write an application, they definitely won’t take it. You never know ... He had a fight with a girl, "life is over", in the first battle he will climb under the bullets. I still don't know if it's true or not. But then, in the military registration and enlistment office, statements were written honestly.
                1. 0
                  6 February 2023 00: 55
                  Quote: Zoldat_A
                  already in the army, they said that if you write an application, they definitely won’t take it
                  I wrote from the military service right on the day when they announced the introduction of a limited contingent; I wanted to test myself, but I never had a chance to fight.
      5. +7
        5 February 2023 12: 09
        Quote: Shoulder straps
        but it is obvious that no "Wagner" is enough for millionaires, and the mobilized do not have and will not have such motivation.

        It was not for nothing that "Karat" wrote about you in his commentary - Too openly hate Russia and the Russian authorities.
      6. +1
        5 February 2023 12: 19
        Well, who else here wants to reach the Polish border?

        Yes, the difficulties are understandable, the saloreich is on the suction, nothing is required of them except meat, the West has become the rear economy, on the other hand, in what other way can this eternal peritonitis be removed?

        I wonder why the high-rise building that the fighter is talking about cannot be destroyed by something heavy?
        1. +1
          5 February 2023 13: 41
          I wonder why the high-rise building that the fighter is talking about cannot be destroyed by something heavy?

          They will definitely destroy ... And the "fortified basements" will become mounds hi
      7. +11
        5 February 2023 12: 26
        Quote: Shoulder straps
        Well, who else here wants to reach the Polish border? hi
        Imagine fighting for Kyiv, for Lvov, for Zaporozhye, for Odessa.
        How much time and what effort will it cost to take them.

        And this is Artyomovsk being stormed by the MOTIVATED infantry of the "Wagner", but it is obvious that no "Wagner" is enough for millionaires, and the mobilized do not and will not have such motivation. request

        I can perfectly imagine the battles for Lvov. Lviv is best stormed by the 1st and 2nd corps of the LDNR. I can imagine how the artillerymen of the late Korsa write in eres: For Korsa !!!, and with their Grads they burn Lvov to zero. Donetsk and Lugansk peasants from Zapadenschina will not leave a stone unturned. And they will not worry about the peacekeeper. They will fully avenge the murdered relatives and comrades.
        1. +2
          5 February 2023 12: 35
          Quote: Bearded
          Lviv is best stormed by the 1st and 2nd corps of the LDNR.

          laughing
          Immediately, by the way, questions with the Poles will be removed ..
          - Whose Lvov?
          - Which Lviv? belay
          1. 0
            5 February 2023 15: 25
            Quote from Bingo
            Quote: Bearded
            Lviv is best stormed by the 1st and 2nd corps of the LDNR.

            laughing
            Immediately, by the way, questions with the Poles will be removed ..
            - Whose Lvov?
            - Which Lviv? belay

            A new question will appear: "What is" Lvov "?

            "Aaaa... Is this that arable land?"
      8. +2
        5 February 2023 12: 33
        Quote: Shoulder straps
        Well, who else here wants to reach the Polish border?

        Well I want and many from the provinces of Russia !
        Quote: Shoulder straps
        Imagine fighting for Kyiv, for Lvov, for Zaporozhye, for Odessa.
        How much time and what effort will it cost to take them.

        They won’t be there, they’ll just be handed over .. Now Artyomovsk is surrounded by water, breaking into fortified areas created in 9 years. As your Merkel said about the Minsk agreements ..
        Quote: Shoulder straps

        And this is Artyomovsk being stormed by the MOTIVATED infantry of the "Wagner", but it is obvious that no "Wagner" is enough for millionaires, and the mobilized do not and will not have such motivation.


        Musicians are just what Russia needs to carry out the denazification of people like you, a descendant of Bandera and Vlasov ..
        They simply destroy and do not take prisoners .. Unlike the personnel units of the RF Armed Forces
        It’s so convenient for us and there are fewer reports and other pieces of paper for what and why they didn’t fire a shot into the air and didn’t shout, you need a lawyer (in Polish German and English and Arabic too))))) hehe
        German, English and Jewish tanks will no longer save their regime ..
        We will hack this fortified area, and there is already operational space for motorized reserve divisions .. hi
        Nobody is going to take large cities .. The jerk will be precisely towards the borders of Poland, etc. To cut off supplies to ukroreyhu, etc.
        Well, then everything is according to Sudoplatov, as usual, silently and slowly, the Bandera people wink
        1. 0
          6 February 2023 08: 55
          Nobody is going to take large cities .. The jerk will be precisely towards the borders of Poland, etc. To cut off supplies to ukroreyhu, etc.

          Unfortunately, this is not in the plans of the General Secretary and his Politburo. They have plans to quickly reconcile and reopen the resorts for the elite.
          So we can forget about the borders of Poland forever. For the cowardice of the city does not take.
      9. +3
        5 February 2023 12: 38
        And no one says that everything should be done by Wagner, in general, I have a twofold attitude towards this organization, they are mercenaries.
        And to upload this story, you really need to go to the Polish border, whether you like it or not, otherwise there was no need to start all this and everything.
        There are few forces, but there is no mobilization of human and industrial resources.
        Everything is calm in Baghdad!
        There are, let's say, few medicines at the front.
        1. -8
          5 February 2023 13: 40
          Quote: 75Sergey
          And no one says that everything should be done by Wagner, in general, I have a twofold attitude towards this organization, they are mercenaries.

          Not really, let me correct you. hi
          Quote: 75Sergey
          There are few forces, but there is no mobilization of human and industrial resources.
          Everything is calm in Baghdad!

          Well, how to say, the first wave of mobilization was of course panicky, drunken military commissars rowed everyone who got caught .. laughing
          But now the Russian Army needs specialists, real tankers, signalmen, carriers, etc.
          And precisely motivated and not any bulk and others
          A selection is underway and it is specialists who are quietly called in, and not all sorts of bawlers and blochers ..
          By the way, brigades are also assembled from numerous refugees
          Do you want benefits and citizenship .. Help Russia!
          And what you have written in the photo is something I didn’t see .. Vision falls, damn it)))
          1. 0
            6 February 2023 07: 53
            The list of necessary medicines for the front
          2. +1
            6 February 2023 08: 59
            now the Russian Army needs specialists, real tankers, signalmen, carriers, etc.

            Therefore, it is necessary to mobilize conscripts and retired officers who have served in the last 5 years. And the knowledge is there, and the skills are not yet lost.
            What's the use of me, in my sixties, I forgot everything, I lost my skills, the equipment was withdrawn from service, there is no health. In cannon fodder, perhaps.
      10. +3
        5 February 2023 12: 44
        who else here wants to reach the Polish border?
        On August 23, 1943, the Battle of Kursk ended, and on July 27, 1944, Lvov was liberated. As they say, no comment.
        1. -2
          5 February 2023 13: 47
          Quote: Gardamir
          who else here wants to reach the Polish border?
          On August 23, 1943, the Battle of Kursk ended, and on July 27, 1944, Lvov was liberated. As they say, no comment.

          And on February 2, 80 years ago, the Battle of Stalingrad ended with the encirclement and destruction of one of the most powerful groups of the Reich .. This was the beginning of the end of fascist Europe ..!
          You to me I to you.. hi
          1. +2
            5 February 2023 14: 22
            You to me, I to you.
            Kind of stupid. I wrote clearly. For a year they fought from Kursk to Lvov.
        2. +4
          5 February 2023 13: 51
          Then they didn’t play in the NWO, but fought according to all the rules.
          1. -1
            5 February 2023 15: 51
            Quote: Metallurg_2
            Then they didn’t play in the NWO, but fought according to all the rules.

            For example, during Operation Uranus (Battle of Stalingrad).
            The losses of the Red Army amounted to 1 people.
            .
            And during the storming of Berlin
            The irretrievable losses of the USSR amounted to 78291 people, 1997 tanks, 2108 guns, 917 aircraft

            Do you also want to fight?
      11. +2
        5 February 2023 13: 13
        Stormtroopers of the "orchestra" continue active battles in the south of the city. The complete clearing of the northern part of the village of Opytnoye helped the “Wagnerites” advance in this area.

        Ukrainian formations provide fierce resistance to the advancing PMC units. Not only military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but also soldiers of the national battalions operate in this area.

        “Nationalist groups are also present, they are distinguished by the black uniform in which they run. But haven't been caught yet. There are dead, but it’s still far away, we can’t reach them, ”said the interlocutor.
      12. +6
        5 February 2023 13: 17
        Quote: Shoulder straps
        Well, who else here wants to reach the Polish border?

        The one who came from near Moscow to Berlin. The fact that you are being weeded out with dill, and saving your "agro-inventory", does not reach you. Like the Wehrmacht, they grind you up at one time, your owners really screamed, just like you, that they filled up the corpses, the machine guns overheated the attack because of this they did not repel. It is true that waves of total mobilization began from your former owners in 1943, that everyone and everything is seized from you. moreover, before the New Year, a video of how he is "mobilized", and at the end of January, he. being already in captivity (so smart, or happy) tells how he was mobilized. At this rate, you will really soon reach the Polish border. of course, God forbid if, Russia will again have to decide where the Polish border will be like in 1945. although knowing some of our GDP’s attraction to German culture ... And if between us. when I served in the SGV in the city of Stargard-Shetinsky, we called it Shtetinsky, And on weekends we sometimes went to Stetin, which in Polish sounded like Shchchecin ... As Stalin said to Churchill? .. "Lvov? Yes. It was not a Russian city, and Warsaw was! And by the way, Yekaterinoslav, and Nikolaev and Odessa ..
        . "Make alliances with anyone, unleash any war, but never touch the Russians."
        Otto von Bismarck quote
      13. +1
        5 February 2023 13: 23
        So those who want to reach the Polish border - they will not go to war. They will sit on the couch and talk about the course of the fighting.
      14. +3
        5 February 2023 13: 31
        Motivation appears when a soldier sees victory and the imminent end of the war. What is now is something sluggish, incomprehensible. The art of war lies not in breaking through the fortifications and strong defenses of the enemy with the forehead, but in finding weak points, concentrating troops, breaking through the front and introducing a breakthrough into mobile armor units. Cutting rear roads thunders rear reserves. In the initial period, they tried to do this, but scattered their forces. What's stopping you now?
        What do we constantly read about, hear Wagner, Marines and Airborne Forces, where is the rest of the army?
        More than strange.
      15. +2
        5 February 2023 14: 02
        I remember that Mr. Zelensky was very worried that while the fighting was going on in Novorossia and you could hit the white light like a pretty penny, without thinking about the local civilian population, the mood of the soldiers was fighting, but when the war moved to their homes, to the territory of Ukraine itself, then .. ..
      16. 0
        5 February 2023 14: 47
        Yes, of course, taking such cities without air strikes is from the realm of fantasy. Yes, and thousands of civilians will die. The consequences of such actions would be clearly disastrous.
      17. 0
        5 February 2023 14: 54
        And what are they, excuse me please, besides their own personal interests "MOTIVATED"?
        1. 0
          6 February 2023 02: 57
          Quote from AdAstra
          And what are they, excuse me please, besides their own personal interests "MOTIVATED"?

          Those. do you think any volunteer going under bullets and shells is financially motivated? Are you serious?
          The question is, what is your motivation?
      18. -1
        5 February 2023 15: 54
        Quote: Shoulder straps
        Well, who else here wants to reach the Polish border?
        Imagine fighting for Kyiv, for Lvov, for Zaporozhye, for Odessa.
        How much time and what effort will it cost to take them.

        And you read the story of Aesop for illustration: at first it is very difficult to carry a basket of bread. But as the distance traveled increases, there is less and less bread in the basket. It's easier to carry. So the forelock is less and less left for such resistance. And in addition, the forelocks in Kyiv and Zaporozhye did not build the "Poroshengeym line" for eight years! Difficult is when multi-story concrete ceilings go tens of meters deep, where nothing can be reached. But beyond Kramatorsk and Kurakhovo, there will no longer be such a layered line of the super-fortified area.
        And when the ukrovermacht is able to defend itself with a maximum of what is the wall of the house, then the issue of knocking them out of there will still be more resolved.
        (this is a personal opinion)
      19. 0
        6 February 2023 14: 11
        We must follow the shortest path: it is not far from Brest.
        And to fight throughout the Square and not needed.
    2. +5
      5 February 2023 11: 51
      there are almost no mercenaries in the city, they were taken out or transferred to another direction.

      So those who remained in the city are destined for the fate of the heroes of Ukraine.
      1. +1
        5 February 2023 12: 25
        Quote: Adrian28
        So those who remained in the city are destined for the fate of the heroes of Ukraine.

        I sincerely wish the remaining vsukam to lie down in the ground. If the enemy does not surrender, they destroy him! I would like Soledar to seem like a kindergarten with sling pants!!!
      2. +3
        5 February 2023 13: 43
        There is a terrible meat grinder. Confessions of the dill themselves.
        The boys say that an untrained fighter lives in Bakhmut for only four hours. And prepared? Day?

        Video

        https://ok.ru/video/4371919473280
    3. +5
      5 February 2023 11: 53
      Mow the dill, guys, take care of yourself!!! There's still a lot of work ahead hi
      1. +6
        5 February 2023 12: 35
        Idiots! What do you think will happen next?
        And here's what happens next. Each death/wound of a soldier of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is a misfortune in his family, for relatives and friends. How do you think they will treat us Russians after that? Here you have a ready and motivated (!!!) fifth, eighth, tenth and other columns, ready "sympathizers" for sabotage. That is, we get territories with an initially hostile population.
        And what should we do with them? To evict? And where to? Unless on the border with Poland, in emigration. As a result, we will get some ruins, even without a population. And now we remember the problem with the depopulation of Russians and what awaits us ahead ??
        1. 0
          5 February 2023 13: 28
          kid, after 45 years we figured out the Bandera people and now we'll figure it out. Siberia is big, there is enough space for everyone. And on the Ukrainian lands, normal people will live. There are far more of them than banderlogs.
          1. +6
            5 February 2023 14: 21
            Relocation is a good thing. But where to find resources and where does the bright confidence come from that in a new place they will immediately become good, white and fluffy?
            And on the Ukrainian lands, normal people will live.

            And where do we get them from? Shall we invite comrades from Central Asia?
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            +2
            5 February 2023 17: 33
            Quote: Pavel_Sveshnikov
            kid, after 45 years we figured out the Bandera people and now we'll figure it out.

            boy, they didn’t figure it out, they put out the fire, but they didn’t spill it and the coals remained.
            Siberia is big, there is enough space for everyone.

            You want to spread these coals across Russia.
        2. -4
          5 February 2023 13: 55
          Here you have a ready and motivated (!!!) fifth, eighth, tenth and other columns, ready "sympathizers" for sabotage. That is, we get territories with an initially hostile population.
          And what should we do with them?

          There is enough space for everyone beyond the Arctic Circle. And especially stubborn ones - for a face-to-face meeting with Uncle Styopa.
        3. 0
          5 February 2023 14: 30
          And here's what happens next. Each death/wound of a soldier of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is a misfortune in his family, for relatives and friends.

          It's the hostage/victim syndrome, "let's not piss them off even more or it'll get worse." So after all, the Germans could not be angry at 41, but met with loaves. "Surrender commissars with Jews" and "drink Bavarian". The trouble is that "a soldier of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and his family" consciously, with a cheerful grunt, accepted the Banderstat, supported it even at the moment when they were only required not to interfere with the overthrow of the "gang of Nazis and drug addicts." Everything that is happening now is the consequences of the decision made by them (the soldier of the Armed Forces and the family).
        4. -1
          5 February 2023 16: 00
          Quote: Not the fighter
          How do you think they will treat us Russians after that? Here you have a ready and motivated (!!!) fifth, eighth, tenth and other columns, ready "sympathizers" for sabotage. That is, we get territories with an initially hostile population.

          You are very wrong. Such a territory will be a constant threat - if it is not now burned with a red-hot iron. And when it is burned out, the population remaining on it will be hostile only for the first, not very long time. And then, without much agility, and so ... kitchen. And you need to start working with her right away. Because the main thing in the work of the center of influence in relation to even the hostile outskirts is the reformatting of the brain. And if Russia does this correctly, then everything will be like in Japan, where they kowtow to the United States, they are ready to lick their boots ... and although they remember about the atomic bombings, they are already slowly blaming the Soviet Union for them.
          If this territory is not burned out and turned into a reserve for further work with the population, then this population will continue to spud the collective West led by the United States, which has already very clearly shown how they turn sane friendly Ukrainians into aggressive ones in just 10-15 years. to all Russian ukrozombi.
          So your potential saboteurs are a story that will happen if Nazism in Ukraine is not uprooted and returned to the orbit of Russian influence, and not vice versa!
        5. +1
          5 February 2023 16: 33
          How do you think they will treat us Russians after that?

          Listen, smart guy. And tell us how they treat us now, and how did they treat their own? And think about what will happen if we stop now and start negotiating with them?
        6. 0
          6 February 2023 07: 51
          Do not forget about civil contradictions within Ukrainian society, when brother against brother, son against father, etc.
    4. -4
      5 February 2023 11: 54
      That's right, the picture is unambiguous. The political leadership of the former Ukraine and the AFU in particular will never dare to make a decision to retreat. Apparently, separate small groups of invaders who have put on bloomers are running in panic, posting videos with their loved ones on the social network. And from there they are already read by journalists and posted to the public.
    5. 0
      5 February 2023 11: 55
      More such interviews.
      And there is simply nowhere to retreat, you can run quietly leaving the position.
      They don't give up because they're brainwashed. Vtyuhali vshushnikam that over them abused and shot. Yes, even behind the back, the Nazis are poking a barrel in the head. You won't screw up
      1. +5
        5 February 2023 12: 06
        According to rumors, in every platoon of the Armed Forces of Ukraine there is an ideological activist on the front line, such as an informal "commissar", who suppresses attempts by brothers to surrender.
        1. +7
          5 February 2023 12: 26
          , in each platoon of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the front end there is an ideological activist, such as an informal "commissar",

          And where are such "commissars" in the Russian army, or all the ideological and patriotic work was left to the mercy of the priests with censers .......
          1. +2
            5 February 2023 12: 47
            There is no official ideology in Russia at all. And in Ukraine there is. All "ideological and patriotic work" in Russia is the memory of the ancestors of a particular private Ivanov and the desire to imitate them.
            1. -1
              5 February 2023 14: 42
              There is no official ideology in Russia at all. And in Ukraine there is.

              Absolutely cannibalistic, but there is, and as history has shown, citizens can be pumped up with any garbage, it is important to wrap them up correctly.
        2. -1
          5 February 2023 13: 57
          What prevents this act from firing a burst in the back?
      2. +11
        5 February 2023 12: 14
        And there is simply nowhere to retreat, you can run quietly leaving the position.


        Open the map.

        In general, if you go into History, then under the Chocolate Hetman, the main option was the introduction of a limited contingent in order to occupy the Luhansk and Donetsk regions. They were preparing for this - in the South from Mariupol to Maryinka through Volnovakha. Svetlodra border to Lysichansk.

        The current milestone along Bakhmutka has not yet been passed, if anything. Fights are going on on the other side, there are only wedgings at Soledar and Bakhmut / Artemovsk. It was also planned under Poroshenko.

        Behind Bakhmut / Artemovsky - Chasov Yar, which will have to be stormed if surrounded.


        Next comes Konstantinovsko-Druzhkovsko-Kramatorsko-Slovyanskaya anglomeration with an area from Kharkov. Where are the enterprises, 5-9-16 floors.
      3. +5
        5 February 2023 12: 19
        Or maybe they are fighting for their country? Do you think it's worth fighting for Russia alone?
        1. +2
          5 February 2023 12: 29
          Why did the Donbass suddenly become a country of non-Russian-speaking raguli? It is the miners of Donbass who are fighting for their country against the zapadentsy-Bandera, Poles, Germans and other Stalinist evil spirits!
    6. -4
      5 February 2023 12: 00
      In the northern quarters of Artemovsk, there are fierce battles for every street, every house, every stairwell.
      When the Germans attacked the USSR, representatives of this republic did not defend themselves very zealously, more and more in the policemen, but fled to the schutzman. The propaganda of the Yankees turned out to be more effective than the propaganda of the Fritz.
      1. -3
        5 February 2023 12: 29
        Quote: carpenter
        The propaganda of the Yankees turned out to be more effective than the propaganda of the Fritz.

        The student has surpassed the teacher...
    7. -10
      5 February 2023 12: 03
      Don't trust Prigogine. If he says that stubborn battles are going on and there is no question of the retreat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then the Armed Forces of Ukraine are doing very badly and in a couple of days the last survivors will write a collective letter from Kramatorsk to Zelensky with a request to punish those responsible for the defeat. It has happened so many times already.
      1. +7
        5 February 2023 12: 11
        If he speaks

        He raises the prestige of his organization. The stronger the enemy, the more glory.
        1. +6
          5 February 2023 12: 23
          he follows the commandment of a wise fighter - "respect the enemy"
    8. +9
      5 February 2023 12: 06
      I read only the official Wagner about the situation in Artyomovsk, so as not to get into trouble. The media already took Seversk from us in the summer. am
    9. +9
      5 February 2023 12: 13
      The APU is not retreating anywhere. APU fight to the last.

      We must pay tribute to the Slavic warriors, they fight to the death! Let's leave the ideology for a moment: the mattress still managed to pit the Slavs - in the batch there are already Russians on both sides, a clearing, syabry - they are an ambush regiment ... It would be nice for us to stand back to back, and split the western muzzle into a yushka! am
      1. -1
        5 February 2023 12: 20
        America has found an ideal distribution of responsibilities: the West knows how to work and gives immeasurable technology, and back in 1991 we were able to gouge our country ourselves, and even generate material for solving global American problems. We and America are just perfect for each other. What would they do without us?
    10. -5
      5 February 2023 12: 18
      Quote: carpenter
      Quote: Shoulder straps
      but it is obvious that no "Wagner" is enough for millionaires, and the mobilized do not have and will not have such motivation.

      It was not for nothing that "Karat" wrote about you in his commentary - Too openly hate Russia and the Russian authorities.


      Well, it's good that you at least separate Russia from the Russian authorities. laughing
      1. +3
        5 February 2023 12: 30
        Well, it's good that you at least separate Russia from the Russian government

        It is strange to separate one from the other, removing responsibility from oneself. Power does not fall to us from Mars, all its shortcomings are our shortcomings.
        1. +1
          5 February 2023 12: 46
          Quote: IvanIvanov
          Well, it's good that you at least separate Russia from the Russian government

          It is strange to separate one from the other, removing responsibility from oneself. Power does not fall to us from Mars, all its shortcomings are our shortcomings.

          Gold words! Do not subtract or add.
        2. +1
          5 February 2023 13: 22
          Quote: IvanIvanov
          It is strange to separate one from the other, removing responsibility from oneself. Power does not fall to us from Mars, all its shortcomings are our shortcomings.

          Isn't power separating itself? It was mothballed, not allowing anyone from outside. They left a couple of blanks imitating the opposition. The same ... faces of 20 years. And this strange phrase: " ̶С̶o̶b̶a̶k̶a̶ ̶- ̶d̶r̶u̶g̶ ̶ch̶e̶l̶o̶v̶e̶k̶a̶" "if there is no Putin, there will be no Russia"? Is this not an indicator of the attitude towards the people, they say - the people separately, and Russia (in the person of the president) separately? Although, there is some truth in your opinion. Since the majority of the people are satisfied with what is happening, then there is responsibility.
          1. -1
            5 February 2023 14: 29
            Quote: Hyperion
            Is this not an indicator of the attitude towards the people, they say - the people separately, and Russia (in the person of the president) separately? Although, there is some truth in your opinion. Since the majority of the people are satisfied with what is happening, then there is responsibility.

            That's it, that it is at least not logical to separate part of the system from the entire system :)
      2. +1
        5 February 2023 12: 48
        Elite is what is obtained by selection in society. Russian power is a manifestation of the essence of the Russian people. Especially in the face of their non-Russian representatives.
    11. -3
      5 February 2023 12: 23
      Quote: Shoulder straps
      Well, who else here wants to reach the Polish border? hi
      Imagine fighting for Kyiv, for Lvov, for Zaporozhye, for Odessa.
      How much time and what effort will it cost to take them.

      And this is Artyomovsk being stormed by the MOTIVATED infantry of the "Wagner", but it is obvious that no "Wagner" is enough for millionaires, and the mobilized do not and will not have such motivation. request

      The vushniks are ending quietly, there won’t be enough for all the cities, + there will be no concrete fortifications that have been flooded for years. it will go faster there. And no one will take the cuys by storm, and I think the city too, they will just cut everything down and move on, there will be nothing to bring, they will leave on their own.
      1. -6
        5 February 2023 12: 53
        I wonder what's up with the Privoz market in Odessa. They sell more products for hryvnia or not anymore. Usually at such times they sold for gold. Now the possibility of recharging the phone may be sold. Are the trams still running?
    12. 0
      5 February 2023 13: 01
      Well, here is the answer to when messages or opinions constantly pop up that the mobilized Vushniks do not want to fight and immediately surrender. Many people have been brainwashed there, and most of the mobilized are not eager to give up, they are opposed to us.
    13. +1
      5 February 2023 13: 08
      Quote: IvanIvanov
      Well, it's good that you at least separate Russia from the Russian government

      It is strange to separate one from the other, removing responsibility from oneself. Power does not fall to us from Mars, all its shortcomings are our shortcomings.


      I know at least two sects:
      1. Start with yourself
      2. Don't ask what the country has done for you, ask what you have done for the country.

      Which one are you from? laughing

      Are you from the pastors (life is good) or from the rank and file (blissful believers)? laughing
    14. +5
      5 February 2023 13: 28
      Quote: IvanIvanov
      Well, it's good that you at least separate Russia from the Russian government

      It is strange to separate one from the other, removing responsibility from oneself. Power does not fall to us from Mars, all its shortcomings are our shortcomings.


      Yeah, that is, the decision to start it is made by the authorities, and the responsibility means the people must bear.
      1. -3
        5 February 2023 13: 34
        Most of the people of Russia just welcomed the beginning of their own. Here we are in solidarity with the authorities.
        1. +6
          5 February 2023 15: 20
          Most of the people of Russia just welcomed the beginning of their own. Here we are in solidarity with the authorities.
          some kind of propaganda "noodles" ... there was no such thing - everyone was at a loss, and then for a month the nightingale sang to us what-why-why (also a lover of "noodles"), then there was a concert in the Luzhniki, and then they began: "gestures of good will "," regrouping "and" grind the enemy "...
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    16. +5
      5 February 2023 13: 46
      Well, who will say now that VSU has no motivation. Enough of ukrov to make worthless meat. Fight like they're supposed to
    17. +6
      5 February 2023 13: 51
      Quote: igorbrsv
      Most of the people of Russia just welcomed the beginning of their own. Here we are in solidarity with the authorities.


      Phone ring.
      -Yes,
      - This is VTsIOM, your vote is taken into account, thank you.

      So was there an approval poll? laughing
      1. -1
        5 February 2023 14: 26
        Read at least IN the period of the beginning of the operation.
    18. +1
      5 February 2023 14: 15
      Zelya knows that Ukraine is a khan, and "the collapse does not begin with a million dollars, but with a cent," therefore, no persuasion of the military in Artemovsk will give way ...
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      +1
      5 February 2023 16: 53
      Mr. Prigozhin, you are so contradictory, then you disown PMCs, then she is your favorite child. Either Ukrainians flee at the sight or hearing of PMCs, or they fight for every stairwell.
    21. 0
      5 February 2023 18: 08
      Personally, I do not admire Prigogine's desire to praise the enemy. His goals are clear, although he is a patriot, but first of all a businessman - after the war, the same Ukrainians will work safely in PMCs, well, he himself needs a heavy victory over an unsurrendering enemy. Besides, why would they give up there? There is motivation, and the point here is not in the "same" people, but in the fact that propaganda was competently built by the Americans. There is no such hell in the city itself, and peaceful people go there. It is comfortable and habitual for them to defend themselves in houses, until the moment they arrive, of course, or they take them by storm, and there will be no one to repent. Any resistance is built primarily on a well-built system, supply, communications, orders, and so on. This is again the merit of our "Western friends", who have not wasted their time all these years. As for the mobs that are thrown to plug holes, they are without a system, but they do not defend themselves, and they do not live long.
    22. 0
      5 February 2023 19: 10
      Quote: private person
      I am quoting your hosts. Ursula Lein and more. And that is not all

      Anyone who does not agree with your statements, you automatically classify as CSO krajina. And I tell you go get treated, the psychiatrist is crying for you.

      You are not smart. Don't want to talk stupid.
    23. 0
      5 February 2023 19: 18
      It’s good that 10% of the Russian Army just went to war if 20% of the Russian army would not have left stones from Ukraine there from stones, so at least 10% of the Russian army for all of Ukraine equally I hope that everything will end soon and we will all live peacefully
    24. +1
      5 February 2023 22: 27
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      Do not talk nonsense - "" one people, If you think that the glorification of Bandera is a normal phenomenon, then say so. In this people, yue children yawn and shout, kill the Muscovite,,. And in general, when was the last time you saw this kind of thing? Do not live by the criteria of the Soviet era. Everything has changed in 30 years.

      Absolutely true.
    25. 0
      5 February 2023 23: 19
      I am also Ukrainian by nationality - it is even written in my Russian passport. I don’t like Benders since childhood, I don’t know why, probably even because their conversation is more like Polish than Ukrainian, but that’s not the point, it’s the Maidan that they staged after visiting Poland, Germany, etc. it was these people who had the right to a Polish passport, and also the first ones began to lick the ass of the Poles, Germans, etc. they wanted Europe without a visa, etc. Yes, those who went into slavery over the hill, in principle, did not live sourly, but at the same time in Ukraine, the minimum wage and the standard of living of people who did not go anywhere really wanted to do better, so even if, let’s say in Russia, you fell in life and you are a bum, etc. .d. you can always get up off your knees as there is a level of social support and much more, whatever one may say.
    26. -1
      6 February 2023 10: 38
      I love our journalism. 2 articles on the same site with a difference of 2 hours and a link to the same source write opposite things.
      here is the article bot 9 hours
      https://topwar.ru/210274-podrazdelenija-vsu-prodolzhajut-pokidat-gorjaschij-artemovsk-nazyvaja-ego-adom.html
      Thus, yesterday's information is confirmed that some units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are leaving the city, a partial withdrawal of Ukrainian troops from the northern regions of Artemivsk (Bakhmut) confirmed by the Wagnerites themselves. In the official TG channel of PMC it is said that the 63rd mechanized brigade has been withdrawn from the city and, possibly, the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is preparing it for surrender.

      2 hours later
      I clarify the situation. The APU is not retreating anywhere. APU fight to the last. In the northern quarters of Artemovsk, there are fierce battles for every street, every house, every stairwell. Of course, it's nice that the media want the retreat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but this does not happen either in the northern quarters, or in the southern, or in the eastern

      Beauty. Schizophrenia from the terminal stage. Campaign, even in a tiny PMC, they themselves do not know what is going on with them, and here we are writing slander on the GDP and the General Staff.
      1. -1
        6 February 2023 15: 07
        Actually, our compatriots have always been, with amazing force, glad to death to threaten each other. This was noted by the writer Gorky in his article "On the Russian Peasantry" dated 1922. We constantly see this on every highway, parking lot and in every yard, at every step .....
        It’s just that today such an opportunity presented itself that you can do it without hesitation. Americans have long understood that if the matter is scientifically motivated, tremendous opportunities open up for regulating the number of the Russian people. No wonder they have been asking questions about the secrets of the Russian soul for decades.
    27. +2
      6 February 2023 17: 41
      Are the fights hard?
      Duck this is not paintball, they kill forever.
      Bbanderostan is a large territory and it is not at all easy to capture it.
      They reached Paris, Berlin, hands and feet will remember how to disassemble the reptile for parts

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    “Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"