China warns US of right to retaliate over downed weather balloon

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China warns US of right to retaliate over downed weather balloon
China has protested to the United States over the downing of a meteorological probe the day before.

Beijing warned Washington that they have the right to respond, but time will tell what it will be.



The Chinese Foreign Ministry published on its official website a protest against the US actions that led to the destruction of the balloon. Beijing is very unhappy with Washington's decision to destroy the probe, saying that it was an exclusively civilian object, did not pose any threat, and hit American airspace by accident. At the same time, China notified the United States of the emergency. Beijing now reserves the right to retaliate.

The Chinese side expresses its strong dissatisfaction and protest against the use of force by the United States to attack a civilian unmanned balloon

China's Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

Meanwhile, the details of the "attack" of the American fighter on the balloon appeared. According to CNN, a fifth-generation F-22 fighter was sent from Langley Air Force Base in Virginia to neutralize the Chinese weather probe. The pilot raised the plane to a height of 17,7 km, after which he fired at the balloon with one AIM-9X missile, hitting it. The probe itself was much higher, reaching a height of 19,8 km. The wreckage of the balloon fell into the sea off the coast of South Carolina, there is now an operation by the Navy and the US Coast Guard to locate and recover it. The Pentagon intends to prove that the downed probe was a "reconnaissance balloon" with which China monitored US strategic facilities.

The Chinese balloon was first spotted earlier this month over Montana, home to a US Air Force base and nuclear missile silos. After that, the US military concluded that it was intelligence.
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    1. +12
      5 February 2023 08: 38
      Oh, how timely the probe appeared! Perked up everyone. Yes, they shot him down ... But now China has the right to answer
      1. +19
        5 February 2023 08: 42
        In response to the downing of a Chinese meteorological probe over the territory of the United States, China may seize Taiwan. Or can't? request
        1. +19
          5 February 2023 08: 56
          Taiwan is the edge. There are many other answers. Like the defeat of a satellite, an economic response, a political demarche, etc. When the PRC recognized the bubble, it was impossible to shoot it down. Biden did not want this, but the Trumpists raised a hubbub and, after thinking, considered that it was both a disgrace and a disgrace. Then it was immediately necessary to shoot down, but if you don’t shoot down, Biden will be pecked. In general, fun.
          1. +7
            5 February 2023 09: 07
            Quote: hrych
            There are many other answers.

            For example, they have the right to demolish Starlinks from the sky now. Absolutely symmetrical answer. And the mattresses will be to blame, not China. This is as an example
            1. PN
              +13
              5 February 2023 09: 17

              For example, they have the right to demolish Starlinks from the sky now.

              No, they don't. The ball was in the airspace of the Merikos, up to 100 km. Starlinks fly at altitudes of 550 km, this is no man's land.
              1. -6
                5 February 2023 09: 38
                Quote: PN
                The ball was in the airspace of the Merikos, up to 100 km.

                He was already over the sea - one, two - no airspace is regulated by any agreement, so shooting down at an altitude of 20 and 500 km is absolutely monopenisual
                1. +8
                  5 February 2023 10: 33
                  The state border rises to 100-110 km
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                  1. -6
                    5 February 2023 10: 37
                    Quote: Napayz
                    Source:

                    Unfounded. He cited treaties in which airspace is not limited in height. That is a lie.
                2. +3
                  5 February 2023 13: 48
                  Quote from Bingo
                  Take down Starlinks from the sky, for example - they have the right

                  Starlinks are in SPACE, at an altitude of 550 km. Therefore, they do not violate anything, according to the Convention on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space. If they shoot down, then they will rake in full, like aggressors and violators of m-r. Therefore, we do not touch them, although they transmit intelligence to the Ukrainians and provide online communication between the units and the special forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And they could bang, by the way ... But - "Rusiko is a tourist! The appearance of morality !!! (s), damn it! am
            2. +18
              5 February 2023 09: 18
              It's funny that the Americans themselves are now receiving inadequate accusations.
              After all, if, according to normal logic, something has flown into your country, and it is a civilian probe, or a spy probe, shoot it down, and then figure out that it has flown to you. If the plane - there is still first to offer the pilots to land on the airfield, they will try to escape - also shoot down, regardless, a military plane or a passenger plane with three hundred hostages. So that there are no repetitions on the precedent, and the next "lost course" will no longer try to escape, but obediently sit down where it is said.

              And so, the Americans, instead of immediately knocking down, staged some incomprehensible dances with tambourines. They waited until the probe had already left their territory, and only then, already over the sea, they shot down, now it’s not clear why - the probe had already transmitted everything it could.
              And naturally received an accusation from China. Why "after" it was necessary to shoot down a valuable thing.
              1. +4
                5 February 2023 13: 10
                staged some strange dances with tambourines

                These dances are for the amusement of the public, the Americans know a lot about show business, first you need to warm up the society, get scared, and then the savior of the nation Biden appears and orders to shoot down the spy balloon.
            3. +3
              5 February 2023 09: 28
              "trial balloon" we go out into space a little... And where is the space-air border? It's time to launch a flock of probes, and the higher the more "interesting".
            4. +2
              5 February 2023 10: 37
              Most likely they will sit on the river bank and wait for a dead Joe to swim by. That's all they are capable of. Starlinks and outside the main orbits could play.
          2. +5
            5 February 2023 09: 11
            Quote: hrych
            When the PRC recognized the bubble, it was impossible to shoot it down.

            Well, this is a moot point. The same China has the experience of forced landing of American aircraft ...
            Quote: hrych
            Biden did not want this, but the Trumpists raised a hubbub and, after thinking, considered that it was both a disgrace and a disgrace.

            That is, do you think that the same Pelosi, from the "dermocrats" is so "white and fluffy"?
            Quote: hrych
            Taiwan is the edge.
            The question is really not simple. Time is now playing against both Taiwan and China. The capacities that Taiwan now has, in terms of the production of microelectronics, they are in many respects unique, but this is already temporary, since the United States began to pull them over to itself and the transition of Taiwan to China is now very unprofitable for them.
            But is China ready for a direct confrontation with the US? Apparently not
            1. +2
              5 February 2023 09: 23
              Quote: svp67
              experience of forced landing of American aircraft ...

              But not destruction. This is an accidental meteorological balloon. He was recognized immediately, but secretly, the Americans called him Chinese. Then the Chinese publicly acknowledged and apologized, saying that it was an accident and its destruction was an act of aggression.
              Quote: svp67
              Pelosi, from the "dermocrats" so "white and fluffy"?

              She was not banged on approach to Taiwan, only scolded.
              We still do not know how many Chinese rowers-dwarfs (wind blowers) died wassat
              1. +1
                5 February 2023 09: 43
                Quote: hrych
                But not destruction.

                Well, why, there is such an experience ...
                In the early 60s, RB-57D, five U-2s and 3 unmanned aircraft ...
                And then from the mid-60s
                On September 9 and 17, 1966, two F-105s were shot down in the air over the province of Guangxi. In 1967, anti-aircraft artillery, in cooperation with air defense aircraft, shot down six US tactical combat aircraft. From May 1966 to the end of 1971, U.S. unmanned reconnaissance aircraft made 53 sorties over Chinese airspace. Nine aircraft were shot down. In 1966-1968, Kuomintang pilots on various types of aircraft flew 47 times to reconnoiter the territory of the PRC. On April 21, 1967 and January 4, 1968, one RF-101 was hit each. On January 13, 1968, one RF-104G was shot down. Since 1969, American and Kuomintang aircraft have largely ceased their air raids on the continent.
                Quote: hrych
                We still do not know how many Chinese rowers-dwarfs (wind blowers) died

                The Americans have already raised the remains of the ball and its equipment, the rowers have not been found ....
            2. +2
              5 February 2023 13: 06
              Quote: svp67
              The United States began to pull them over to itself, and the transition of Taiwan to China is now very unprofitable for them.
              But is China ready for a direct confrontation with the US? Apparently not

              While it is not obvious, but there are nuances. A meeting of the GDP and Xi is scheduled for the spring of 2023, at which, it can be assumed, over a cup of tea and face to face, ways to solve the problem of Ukraine and Taiwan will be discussed in terms of interaction between the Russian Federation and China against the encroachment of mattresses. So, who knows how this meeting will turn out for Taiwan by the summer.
              The fact that the PRC is actively dumping US securities (from 1,3 trillion to 900 billion per year) and canceled the planned meeting with Blinkin because of the ball indicates that the PRC is seriously preparing to aggravate relations with the United States. The option of a simultaneous Russian offensive in Ukraine and the subjugation of Taiwan by the People's Army of China this summer cannot be ruled out.
              1. 0
                5 February 2023 14: 19
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                The option of a simultaneous Russian offensive in Ukraine and the subjugation of Taiwan by the People's Army of China this summer cannot be ruled out.

                China will not yet be ready for this summer... Comrade. Xi plans BIG BADA BOOM no earlier than 2025, most likely for 2027. In the meantime, behind our backs, he is "accumulating strength" for a decisive response to the "great Satan."
                And the states need to start an eastern adventure with Taiwan as early as possible, before China finally "insolent" in its demands. But the Yankees can’t ... They can’t leave the boars, whom they are trying to entrust to NATE, to the mercy of fate ... But these clowns still (!) Do not pull, despite all the efforts of the fine-shaven ... Well, they don’t get a "stone flower" , at least you mustache! And the Yankees are clearly not going to stand upright. Therefore, they will make every effort to close the issue with country-U as soon as possible, saving face, and deal with comrade. Xi and his team up close...
                Somehow, however. AHA.
                1. 0
                  5 February 2023 18: 04
                  Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                  And the states need to start an eastern adventure with Taiwan as early as possible, before China finally "insolent" in its demands. But the Yankees can’t ... They can’t leave the boars, whom they are trying to entrust to NATE, to the mercy of fate ... But these clowns still (!) Do not pull, despite all the efforts of the fine-shaven ... Well, they don’t get a "stone flower" , at least you mustache! And the Yankees are clearly not going to stand upright. Therefore, they will make every effort to close the issue with country-U as soon as possible, saving face, and deal with comrade. Xi and his team up close...
                  Somehow, however. AHA.

                  However, based on your "AGA", it turns out that it makes no sense for Russia or China to adapt to the plans of the "hegemon" and maintain a "noble pause" so that all the puzzles fit the way Washington wants and sees, on the basis of which the Russian Federation and China have a great opportunity to play ahead of the curve and thereby confuse all the "hegemon" cards. Is not it?
                  A couple of years ago, Russia agreed to help China build its own missile launch early detection system, which today exists only in the Russian Federation and the United States. This program provided for the completion of work within five years, but at the request of Beijing, it was decided to complete it ahead of schedule and meet the deadline of three years. Now I don’t remember exactly how long it should have taken by years (20-25, or 19-24), but I believe that the job is almost done and, probably, having received this system, the PRC will not limit itself in making decisions on Taiwan , because mattresses will not be able to swing a nuclear club in the previous mode, since parity in the nuclear triad with China will be balanced both in the methods of using nuclear weapons and in methods of counteraction. As for the possibilities of "resubordinating" Taiwan by conventional military measures, China has incomparably more of them than the United States, located thousands of miles from this theater of operations. The nearest US bases will not be able to fully protect the island. they are all in the kill zone of Chinese missiles, and the best option for saving the life of the air force based on these bases is to refuse their direct involvement in an armed conflict, otherwise the Americans will receive tens of thousands of coffins in a short time, which will put an end to the Democrats .
                2. -1
                  5 February 2023 19: 55
                  Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                  China will not be ready for this summer yet...

                  I agree that by this time they will not have time to form and train the third AUG, and without it, it is possible to maintain a sea and air blockade and carry out a full-fledged landing operation, but the losses will increase by a multiple. They need another year
              2. -1
                5 February 2023 19: 53
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                The fact that the PRC is actively dumping US securities (from 1,3 trillion to 900 billion per year) and canceled the planned meeting with Blinkin because of the ball indicates that the PRC is seriously preparing to aggravate relations with the United States.

                Yes, their "trick" with balloons is worth a lot, it's interesting that ours are able to hang such a "bubble" over Ukraine ... It was not a bad "bait" for their "winy" (fighters). It would be possible to catch the MiG-31 on it
                1. 0
                  6 February 2023 06: 12
                  Quote: svp67
                  Yes, their "trick" with balloons is worth a lot, I wonder if ours are capable of hanging such a "bubble" over Ukraine ...

                  To do this, you need only be able to control the flow of huge air masses. tongue
          3. +2
            5 February 2023 09: 52
            Quote: hrych
            When the PRC recognized the bubble, it was impossible to shoot it down.

            However, it flashed:
            At the same time, China notified the United States of the emergency.

            The question is when he was notified.
            If before detection, then the bubble is clearly civil.
            Probes for military-intelligence purposes are not notified.
            The United States repeatedly launched such to fly over the territory of the USSR.
            1. 0
              5 February 2023 20: 09
              Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
              If before detection, then the bubble is clearly civil.

              No, the notification passed after discovery.
              Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
              Probes for military-intelligence purposes are not notified.

              Come on, after the "disappearance of U-2" in 1960, near Sverdlovsk (Yekaterinburg), the United States reported the loss of the NASA aircraft ... At that moment they did not know that the pilot was alive, the plane did not self-destruct and a lot of things fell into the hands " advice"
              I'm more interested in how China now explained the passage of the second probe over Central America ... The same "lost"? It's like he didn't get knocked down.
              1. 0
                6 February 2023 06: 26
                Quote: svp67
                Come on, after the "disappearance of U-2" in 1960, near Sverdlovsk (Yekaterinburg), the United States reported the loss of the NASA aircraft ... At that moment they did not know that the pilot was alive, the plane did not self-destruct and a lot of things fell into the hands " advice"

                They then flew regularly and brazenly being sure that the USSR had no opportunity to shoot down.
                They also knew that all these flights were monitored.

                PS Those for whom you explained that E-burg is Sverdlovsk about Powers not only do not remember, but most likely they have not heard. hi
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          5. 0
            5 February 2023 13: 00
            There are many other answers. Like the defeat of a satellite, an economic response, a political demarche, etc.

            Yes Yes.....
            They will demolish an American satellite, crush it with sanctions, Chinese diplomats will throw lightning (demarche), etc.
            Only now Taiwan rests solely on the Americans. Without amers, Taiwan would not be independent from China. That is, in fact, the Americans contribute to the division of China, part of which is armed and supported by the states. And China is not doing anything to the Americans. NOTHING.

            And then for the ball, China, as if something will answer. Well, yes, NOW ......
          6. +1
            5 February 2023 13: 43
            Quote: hrych
            Then it was immediately necessary to shoot down,

            Agree. Everything below 100 km is located above the country's territory, and besides, it is unidentified - there is a legitimate target for air defense / missile defense, as a violator of the state border in the country's AIRspace.
            Therefore, the actions of the Yankees are legal, but extremely belated. Now the whales can make a demarche, because. there is a reason. Another question: will they use it or not?
            AHA.
        2. 0
          5 February 2023 13: 06
          So the probe itself is not small, a gondola with equipment the size of two buses, laughing Therefore, the ball is huge and clearly visible in the sky.
      2. +1
        5 February 2023 08: 58
        Quote: Egoza
        And now China has the right to respond

        And something tells me that China will not draw "concerns" and "red lines". Will find how to sting America. And it will not hit on morality, like ours, but on the most painful thing for America - on the wallet.

        I was talking about something...
        The Chinese are disciplined and organized people. If tomorrow "Chinese food" restaurants close all over America (Americans, as a rule, do not bother remembering the names - everything in Chinese restaurants is "Chinese food" - they poke pictures in smartphones and order delivery), then a quarter of America will die with hunger. Because they themselves, at home, do not know how to fry eggs.
        The second quarter eats pizza, the rest - in McDonald's and the like.

        And further.
        The Pentagon intends to prove that the downed probe was a "reconnaissance balloon" with which China monitored US strategic facilities.
        And after all "prove". Necessarily. Only "evidence" will not be shown - they are secret.
        1. +4
          5 February 2023 09: 10

          Zoldat_A (Igor, son of Alexei, Russian soldier)
          Today, 08: 58
          NEW ... And more.
          The Pentagon intends to prove that the downed probe was a "reconnaissance balloon" with which China monitored US strategic facilities.
          And after all "prove". Necessarily. Only "evidence" will not be shown - they are secret.
          Definitely. As ordered by the Pentagon, such will be "evidence")).
          1. 0
            5 February 2023 16: 56
            they have already filled the test tube with powder ... everything is ready, they will shake it next week. shakers
        2. +2
          5 February 2023 09: 31
          Chinese is cheaper! Made in America is more expensive!. Who will buy that? They thought that the factories stolen from Europe, having produced products, would be sold in America?
        3. +3
          5 February 2023 13: 00
          Chinese food restaurants to close
          They are usually owned by Vietnamese and other Filipinos. And they don't have a monopoly. If they close, no one will notice.
          they themselves, at home, do not know how to fry eggs.
          Even as they can.
          1. +3
            5 February 2023 13: 36
            hi!
            Quote: Bolt Cutter
            Chinese food restaurants to close
            They are usually owned by Vietnamese and other Filipinos. And they don't have a monopoly. If they close, no one will notice.

            It's amazing - but for some reason pizzerias belong to the Chinese. At least in Texas.
            Yes, and I said this - really, without a smiley, no one already sees sarcasm?

            But without sarcasm - the fact that Americans for the most part do not know how to cook.
            VERY many people don't even have stoves at home - only microwaves. And how to cook in the microwave - I myself understood back in the 90s. On my experience. I bought a new, tricky machine, dishes, a recipe book ...
            Three hours, three o'clock Cook scoff at vegetable stew? ... I'm better in the old way, in a cauldron on a gas stove.
            Quote: Bolt Cutter
            Even as they can.

            And, Alex, don't compare a Russian immigrant in London to a "native" American in San Antonio, San Francisco or Nuerca. There is no need to measure Americans by themselves.
            Even their outstanding "holiday" dish from all the neighbors recognized by the local "master" - barbecue ... I ate such a tasteless sole from thawed meat for the first and last time in my life.
            They called me "Chief", gasped and gasped, and they were ready to sell their American mole when I found an oven at one of the neighbors (which he used two (!) Times in 10 years), made an ordinary ratatouille and baked some non-frozen in foil fish (similar to our pike perch, but sea and we do not find it either in rivers or in markets).
            Wherever I have to live, my hands themselves will always remember that I started cleaning fish with my father before I went to school. I cooked the first stew soup at the age of 7, baked the first shortbread cookies on my own at the age of 9 for my mother on March 8.
            But ordering "food" through the Internet has never happened before.
        4. -2
          5 February 2023 13: 02
          And something tells me that China will not draw "concerns" and "red lines". Will find how to sting America. And it will not hit on morality, like ours, but on the most painful thing for America - on the wallet.

          I was talking about something...
          The Chinese are disciplined and organized people. If tomorrow "Chinese food" restaurants close all over America (Americans, as a rule, do not bother remembering the names - everything in Chinese restaurants is "Chinese food" - they poke pictures in smartphones and order delivery), then a quarter of America will die with hunger. Because they themselves, at home, do not know how to fry eggs.
          The second quarter eats pizza, the rest - in McDonald's and the like.

          You forgot to add: URYAYA laughing
        5. +1
          5 February 2023 15: 17
          According to your version, all the Chinese in the states are Chinese Communist Party intruders who are just waiting to be ordered to quit their business, be left without pants, but deprive Americans of Chinese fast food?
        6. +1
          5 February 2023 20: 45
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          If tomorrow "Chinese food" restaurants close all over America (Americans, as a rule, do not bother remembering the names - everything in Chinese restaurants is "Chinese food" - they poke pictures in smartphones and order delivery), then a quarter of America will die with hunger.

          How would you order fried potatoes with onions in Chinese? They would also have poked at the picture, at best they would have said "togo" (this). They will survive the absence of Chinese restaurants. The same people.

          Each person is capable of much, but, unfortunately, not everyone knows that he is capable. (c)
      3. +6
        5 February 2023 09: 08
        Madam hi
        Quote: Egoza
        And now China has the right to respond

        Well, you see, China's reaction is unexpected. In my opinion, even Pellosi's flight was not like that. China is clearly getting bolder ...
      4. +3
        5 February 2023 09: 13
        Quote: Egoza
        Oh, how timely the probe appeared! Perked up everyone. Yes, they shot him down ... But now China has the right to answer

        Elena really alarmed .. That's just it's all another Chinese warning
        The Chinese are afraid of the United States, but they still have to clash .. Russia is already fighting against NATO and it’s very difficult for us. And Xi is trying to sit out at the expense of Russia .. well, well
        1. 0
          5 February 2023 17: 03
          everything is simple: if we agree to some kind of truce in Ukraine, then the Chinese will get everything that we have now + Australia with the Yapps.
          It is not in their interests to pull the cat by the "lower tail". But Xi is also afraid to start. The second (and in some ways the first) economy of the world has something to lose. We only just started to get out of the shit of the 90s and we were not given this. We have nothing to lose and nothing (well, except for the oligahs and the Moscow Federal District). The Chinese have. SCARY
      5. +7
        5 February 2023 09: 19
        China did not badly avenge Pelosi's visit to Taiwan, they showed beautifully and elegantly without saber rattling that the US territory is just a defenseless baby.
      6. -7
        5 February 2023 09: 23
        Quote: Egoza
        Oh, how timely the probe appeared! Perked up everyone. Yes, they shot him down ... But now China has the right to answer

        belay Did China tell you? feel How interesting. The United States will raise the wreckage, and what will come up there is still very, very necessary to see .... Yes, and in China there is no fool are sitting. The probe is not a Boeing ..... feel
      7. +10
        5 February 2023 09: 36
        It was a weather balloon! I swear by mom! said Comrade Xi, here is Comrade. Wang Yi confirms!
      8. +2
        5 February 2023 09: 37
        Satellites no longer able to spy?
        Do you have to launch balloons like 100 years ago?
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        1. +1
          5 February 2023 18: 06
          Surprisingly, why not turn your tail after Operation Mogul, but instead fly over the country on a U-2, and then not turn your tail again and fly on an SR-71? It's not "children's prank"! In my opinion, we need more balls, good and different. And so that they didn’t fly so low ... And, by the way, the security forces, led by Eisenhower, threw a tantrum over the fact that self-destruction in the catapult did not work, and Powers chose to give up, and even sang about his tasks in "all the crow's throat" .
    2. +1
      5 February 2023 08: 42
      19,8 km low altitude, why did the F 22 need to be driven. It’s not for sale. It was necessary to use the F 35 or Patriot for advertising. And what did they shoot at the ball in Montana?
      1. +4
        5 February 2023 08: 45
        There is also an area with US strategic nuclear forces .. Did the missile defense really not work? belay
        1. +2
          5 February 2023 09: 18
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          There is also an area with US strategic nuclear forces .. Did the missile defense really not work? belay

          They simply don’t get air defense, and in general, such balls are not easy to shoot down, they have special material there and you can’t shoot down a fighter from a cannon or rocket, special air-to-air missiles are needed there.
          In the days of the USSR, special weapons were developed for such things .. I read everything about it!
          And the Japanese also tried to bomb the United States during World War II .. But the effect was weak
          1. 0
            5 February 2023 13: 47
            Quote from Luka Nord
            Quote from: dmi.pris1
            There is also an area with US strategic nuclear forces .. Did the missile defense really not work? belay

            They simply don’t get air defense, and in general, such balls are not easy to shoot down, they have special material there and you can’t shoot down a fighter from a cannon or rocket, special air-to-air missiles are needed there.
            In the days of the USSR, special weapons were developed for such things .. I read everything about it!
            And the Japanese also tried to bomb the United States during World War II .. But the effect was weak

            Yes, yes, yes ... from super-strong titanium with a Kevlar coating that you can only take with a laser ... I personally read about it. I swear on my mom... lol
        2. -3
          5 February 2023 10: 57
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          There is also an area with US strategic nuclear forces .. Did the missile defense really not work?

          In the USA, first of all, grandmas are considered ..... requestIf it is not profitable, then they will not shoot. recourse
          1. 0
            5 February 2023 14: 24
            Quote: Mavrikiy
            In the USA, first of all, grandmothers are counted ..... If it is not profitable, then they will not shoot.

            This is a political level of solving the problem, not a commercial one! And here in the foreground are image problems, not a bank account!!! Yes
    3. 0
      5 February 2023 08: 42
      And it seems that they initially talked about 100 kilometers, but here it’s only 20
      1. +8
        5 February 2023 09: 05
        Quote: 75Sergey
        And it seems that they initially talked about 100 kilometers, but here it’s only 20

        Somewhere came across "TTX" of this bubble.
        He has a working height of about 30. A little plus or minus. Up to a hundred, it seems to me, he would hardly have skidded, but to go down to 19 (taking into account how much he flew) - completely.

        Personally, I liked that this bubble chose the trajectory of "uncontrolled flight" too beautifully. Alaska, the coast of Canada, Montana ... And everywhere there are heaps of American air defense, bases, and in Montana there are already "strategists" in the mines.
        1. +2
          5 February 2023 09: 11
          Such equipment is unlikely to rise to heights of more than forty kilometers.
          1. +1
            5 February 2023 10: 06
            Quote from: dmi.pris1
            Such equipment is unlikely to rise to heights of more than forty kilometers.

            The flight altitude of such objects can be controlled remotely, but the flight direction cannot.
            Is that using the different directions of movement of atmospheric layers.
            The randomness or purposefulness of movements can be revealed only by knowing the layered map of the movement of air masses.
          2. +1
            5 February 2023 13: 05
            Quote from: dmi.pris1
            Such equipment is unlikely to rise to heights of more than forty kilometers.

            Quote: Zoldat_A
            Somewhere came across "TTX" of this bubble.

          3. 0
            5 February 2023 14: 28
            WIKI says that unmanned balloons are a record of 53 km.
            the highest elevation ever reached by an aeronautic vehicle is 53 kilometers! This altitude record was set by an unmanned balloon of the Japanese space agency JAXA.
        2. +1
          5 February 2023 09: 21
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Personally, I liked that this bubble chose the trajectory of "uncontrolled flight" too beautifully. Alaska, the coast of Canada, Montana ... And everywhere there are heaps of American air defense, bases, and in Montana there are already "strategists" in the mines.

          And there the air currents are constant, like a goldstream, supposedly .. The Japanese also took advantage of this during World War II
          1. 0
            5 February 2023 15: 39
            Quote from Luka Nord
            And there the air currents are constant, like a goldstream, supposedly .. The Japanese also took advantage of this during World War II

            Yes, that's right...
            Only the Gulf Stream flows to itself and flows. Decades, centuries (I don't know, I didn't care how long it existed). Well, the Americans spoiled it with oil - maybe it will get better.
            And the "air Gulf Streams" - try to make a map! They are changing. Maybe only if it's VERY high - I don't know, not a meteorologist.
            Here only if in real time somehow steer. F. Konyukhov flew out "where it is necessary", and not "where it will turn out." And he is not alone.
    4. +7
      5 February 2023 08: 43
      China warns US of right to retaliate over downed weather balloon

      The mask won't like it. smile
      Now US low-orbit spy satellites can be shot down legally... the precedent is set by the US.
      1. +3
        5 February 2023 09: 00
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Max won't like it

        It's good that not Marx ... Maybe Mask? feel
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Now US low-orbit spy satellites can be shot down legally... the precedent is set by the US.

        ... but only to the Chinese ... Yes To create such an opportunity for Russia, you need to launch meteorological “bubbles” yourself ... Or approach some American drone and shoot it down, guided by the defense doctrine (urgently accepted if there is none).
        Even so:
        1. +2
          5 February 2023 09: 06
          Quote: ROSS 42
          It's good that not Marx ... Maybe Mask?

          Sorry, I'm typing on my smartphone... smile the clave is small ... I close half the claves with my finger ... I have already corrected it. hi
          1. +1
            5 February 2023 09: 27
            Quote: Lech from Android.
            Quote: ROSS 42
            It's good that not Marx ... Maybe Mask?

            Sorry, I'm typing on my smartphone... smile the clave is small ... I close half the claves with my finger ... I have already corrected it. hi

            Yes, it happens .. You also scribble on emotions happened .. This is not a forum for teachers of the Russian language wassat
            1. 0
              5 February 2023 10: 12
              Quote from Luka Nord
              Too scribbling on emotions used to.

              This is better not to do. hi
            2. +1
              5 February 2023 12: 02
              Quote from Luka Nord
              Yes it happens .. Too scribbling on emotions happened ..

              Yes, it happens ... You read hastily, on emotions, and you begin to guess who the author of the message meant (although I consider Lyokha from Android to be one of the best and honest users).
              And when you write on emotions, then all sentences (mostly) consist of predicates (verbs) with a soft sign at the end and subjects that there is no desire to capitalize.
              Quote from Luka Nord
              This is not a forum for Russian language teachers

              That is why some of the pearls from the site do not even write on the fences. And there are great incentives to get in the mood for writing:

              Или:
              I wanted something: either the constitution, or the stellar sturgeon with horseradish, or to take and to rip someone off. To get a good jackpot - and to the side. And then, "looking at the time", either bite stew with horseradish, or dream about the constitution. Ah, take her dust, this constitution! No matter how you turn around it, it is not given as a treasure in your hands! It seems that it’s easier to eat a million of living stellate sturgeon than to get this thing! And what kind of constitution is this, and why did I suddenly want it - right, and I don’t know. Will there be a treasurer under this constitution?

              hi
            3. 0
              5 February 2023 14: 39
              Quote from Luka Nord
              This is not a forum for Russian language teachers

              Competently, without mistakes, to write is your sacred duty, as an expression of respect for the interlocutor and the public! Yes
              I always try to follow this rule and I can’t stand it when “scribblers with mistakes” begin to teach the interlocutor through the lip! Prior to that, we had to "build" a very literate chela from Israel (nickname PROFESSOR), when he began to teach our, frankly, not very literate colleague. It seems to have worked.
              AHA.
    5. +13
      5 February 2023 08: 44
      Nicely done. First, they lowered the mattresses below the baseboard, then they also quite reasonably rolled out claims. Just like puppies were poked into a puddle, and several times, they also reserved the right to an answer. Just like in a joke - "I work on contrasts. Everything is in shit, and then I go out - all in white")))
    6. -6
      5 February 2023 08: 44
      China has protested to the United States over the downing of a meteorological probe the day before. Beijing warned Washington that they have the right to respond, but time will tell what it will be.

      Yes, none. They will not even conduct exercises on their territory. Having the right to reply does not mean using it
    7. +6
      5 February 2023 08: 45
      The Chinese side expresses its strong dissatisfaction and protest against the use of force by the United States to attack a civilian unmanned balloon
      Ah yes the Chinese, ah yes well done! Not only did they hit the US in the nose, and hard (for several days the world media wrote about the failure of the American air defense and administration), they also protested with the right to respond to American actions.
    8. -3
      5 February 2023 08: 47
      We should have killed him in Alaska, but this current administration is too busy waking up social shit to be able to deal with real problems. And let the Chinese whine and keep their toys away from our airspace.
      1. -1
        5 February 2023 10: 24
        Quote from Ozark
        but this current administration is too busy waking up social shit

        Well, of course, because all the attention is now on the introduction of politically correct pronouns in the armed forces. Defensiveness rests on pronouns.wassat
      2. 0
        5 February 2023 14: 14
        Quote from Ozark
        We should have killed him in Alaska, but this current administration is too busy waking up social shit to be able to deal with real problems. And let the Chinese whine and keep their toys away from our airspace.

        And then what did you forget on the Russian site, sausage emigrant?
      3. 0
        5 February 2023 22: 38
        in a rough low voice (mercenary of the owner of the "black cuttlefish" from the film Vrungel)
        We should have killed him in Alaska, but this current administration is too busy waking up social shit to be able to.............
        I upvoted
        good
      4. 0
        5 February 2023 22: 50
        We should have killed him in Alaska
        how to shoot down at such a height? there, under 30 km or more, they write it at the beginning, but radars don’t hit it, aim a rocket like - it’s rubber, and there is no heat trace - it’s minus 70-80 degrees Celsius.
        one gets the impression that they were waiting for it to fall
        only old radars were able to track him and direct the missile
    9. +3
      5 February 2023 08: 51
      China can now generally impose an arms race on the states with the help of these balloons. Launch them in hundreds and let the states shrink
    10. -1
      5 February 2023 08: 53
      What answer will they give? laughing throwing sticks? Or Peking ducks? They didn't give up and won't do anything. Otherwise, the collapse of the entire Chinese economy
      1. +1
        5 February 2023 13: 36
        Mais si l'économie de "l'usine du monde" s'effondre ou ferez vous fabriquer vos smartphone, vos ordinateurs, vos télé, vos réfrigérateurs, vos caméras, même voitures (car certaines pièces sont fabriquées en Chine), vos médicaments vos masques etc etc
        La Chine a des avoirs bon nombres de ceux qui les méprisent ont des...dettes.
        La Chine a un marché intérieur de 1400 millions de personnes plus des pays "amis".
        Avec ses avoirs et ce marché elle pourrait survivre un certain temps , peut être assez longtemps pour voir tous ces "partenaires amis" s'effondrer sous le manque d'équipement et le poids de leurs dettes ...Non ?

        But if the economy of the "factory of the world" collapses or you produce your smartphones, computers, TVs, refrigerators, cameras, even your cars (since some parts are made in China), medicines, masks, etc. etc.
        China has assets, many of those who despise them have...debts.
        China's domestic market has 1400 million people plus "friendly" countries.
        With her assets and this market, she could hold out for a while, maybe long enough to see all those "friendly partners" collapse due to lack of equipment and the burden of their debts...right?
    11. -4
      5 February 2023 08: 58
      Another Chinese ... Our Foreign Ministry will teach them to draw red lines ...
      1. +1
        5 February 2023 11: 04
        They themselves are able
        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Последнее_китайское_предупреждение
      2. +2
        5 February 2023 12: 08
        Quote: Reader
        Another Chinese ... Our Foreign Ministry will teach them to draw red lines ...

        This is our Foreign Ministry learned from them:
        Last Chinese warning. Many of us are familiar with this expression. It is pronounced when the opponent is repeatedly warned about the inadmissibility of some actions, but he passes these warnings past his ears and continues the unlawful actions. Then they give him the “last Chinese warning” ... I.e. this is a certain line, which will allegedly be followed by harsh measures against those who disobey. But do you know where this popular expression came from and when?
        As you might guess, the history of this phraseological unit originates in China.

        https://masterok.livejournal.com/5678192.html
    12. +1
      5 February 2023 08: 59
      Shoot down the plane carrying the Speaker of the US House of Representatives as it flies to Taiwan.
      1. +1
        5 February 2023 09: 07

        Ezekiel 25-17 (Andrew)
        Today, 08: 59
        NEW
        +1
        Shoot down the plane carrying the Speaker of the US House of Representatives as it flies to Taiwan.
        Well, that's pretty cool! )) wink
        1. -1
          5 February 2023 09: 12
          China's coolest military-technical response could be victory in tank biathlon laughing which, however, is unlikely
        2. +3
          5 February 2023 09: 28
          Quote: aszzz888

          Ezekiel 25-17 (Andrew)
          Today, 08: 59
          NEW
          +1
          Shoot down the plane carrying the Speaker of the US House of Representatives as it flies to Taiwan.
          Well, that's pretty cool! )) wink

          And the Chinese are still cowardly ... wink
          1. 0
            5 February 2023 09: 43

            Luka Nord (Z)
            Today, 09: 28
            NEW
            ... But the Chinese are still cowardly ... wink
            Something tells me that things won't end there. Hey old man hi !
    13. +5
      5 February 2023 09: 13
      The pilot raised the plane to a height of 17,7 km, after which he fired at the balloon with one AIM-9X missile, hitting it.
      The ball flew to itself, did not touch anyone in mericatosia - and here you are, filled up!
    14. +9
      5 February 2023 09: 20
      We have a tank biathlon, the amers have the opportunity, together with China, to annually hold stratospheric air darts. Shine!
    15. +2
      5 February 2023 09: 21
      Beijing warned Washington that they have the right to respond, but time will tell what it will be.
      I remembered an old joke, from the CIA, about the last 10128, the Chinese warning. The Chinese government warns the American aggressors and their Taiwanese puppets for the last time that if even once an American aircraft violates the non-touchable air borders of the PRC, it will be destroyed ... The United States smiled maliciously, but sent the U-2 into the sky of China, and then . ... Exhibition -5 downed U-2s in Beijing. And right away, somehow in the USA, jokes stopped telling about the last Chinese warning ...
      1. +3
        5 February 2023 11: 02
        The United States smiled maliciously, but sent U-2s into the sky of China, and then .... Exhibition -5 downed U-2s in Beijing.

        Taiwan Air Force U-2s with Taiwanese pilots were shot down over China. The Americans were not shot down there.
        And the jokes "about the last Chinese" are still going around
        But these are Russian jokes, not American ones.
    16. -1
      5 February 2023 09: 27
      Why a rocket? No gun?
      1. -3
        5 February 2023 10: 21
        Quote: awdrgy
        Why a rocket? No gun?

        What is there in the balloon is unknown, all of a sudden there are 10 tons of explosives. So it's safe and secure
    17. fiv
      0
      5 February 2023 09: 35
      Now any civilian equipment can be recognized as reconnaissance, and, in fact, it is so. This story won't end with anything. The Chinese learned what they wanted, however, if there were carriers of information, they are lost. The Americans shot down - they remained decisive and powerful at home. Everyone stayed on their own.
      1. 0
        5 February 2023 14: 54
        Quote: fiv
        The Chinese learned what they wanted, however, if there were carriers of information, they are lost.

        All intelligence was transmitted 1000 times to the receiving center through a satellite transponder in real time. Nowadays, no one writes information to media, but they immediately drive data for processing in the RC.
        AHA.
    18. +1
      5 February 2023 09: 44
      I alone noticed on the video that the Yankees fired more than one missile and several misses at a non-maneuvering target, or China had an electronic warfare station there laughing
      1. -1
        5 February 2023 10: 30
        lol there a Chinese sat and fanned out American missiles ... lol
      2. -1
        5 February 2023 10: 31
        Biden and Xi pressed the button at the same time, but each his own.
        1. -1
          5 February 2023 12: 13
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Biden and Xi pressed the button at the same time, but each their own.

          It is not known which button Xi pressed, but Baden definitely pressed the button on the toilet lid.
      3. +1
        5 February 2023 13: 51
        Quote: air wolf
        I alone noticed on the video that the Yankees fired more than one missile and several misses at a non-maneuvering target, or China had an electronic warfare station there laughing

        You are not alone ... in the cart about this, the universal rzhach stands wink
    19. 0
      5 February 2023 09: 49
      A strange Chinese meteorological probe flew over the USA. But was it really possible?
    20. +2
      5 February 2023 10: 09
      the Chinese will not do anything in response to the downed probe - another Chinese warning and that's it
    21. -2
      5 February 2023 10: 19
      It is necessary to ask for funds to develop forced landing tactics. Striped balls take off, take the target into a "box" and indicate the course with tracers ....
      You can earn a lot of money!
    22. 0
      5 February 2023 11: 16
      If this was a real probe for reconnaissance, it is unlikely that they would make it so that it glows like an eyesore.
    23. -1
      5 February 2023 11: 16
      I'm proud. Unfortunately, the Chinese Communist Party, and not United Russia with New People.

      This is not for you to write on Twitter, though Dmitry Anatolyevich.

      Moreover, it’s impudent to resent the whole world after your intelligence officer was shot down, this is not the “1001st concern” to express, is it true, Aunt Masha and Uncle Seryozha? Maybe you can transfer to Good Night Kids, put to sleep well.

      And let’s rejoice for the Americans: now Zelensky’s cries that he needs to give up American air defense can be played on American humorous talk shows.

      And the understandable meaning of our SVO appeared, otherwise our tops have not been able to clearly formulate it for a year now. But it turns out that we are weakening NATO with our exploits, giving China time to come forward in many not only economic, but also military-technical parameters, in order to throw the States off their hegemonic stool. And, apparently, the time has come, the Chinese are not acting reactively, in response to something there, but preventively, terribly humiliating the States, and directly influencing the fat brains of the American layman, whether he is a redneck, a black man, an LGBT person or even a deep state player. I think for any of them the positioning of the country and him personally in this world has greatly decreased.
    24. +3
      5 February 2023 11: 58
      According to CNN, a fifth-generation F-22 fighter was sent from Langley Air Force Base in Virginia to neutralize the Chinese weather probe. The pilot raised the plane to a height of 17,7 km, after which he fired at the balloon with one AIM-9X missile, hitting it. The probe itself was much higher, reaching a height of 19,8 km.
      I especially liked reading for almost two days in a row - The United States does not have means capable of hitting targets at an altitude of more than 20000 meters, for those who do not know (and there are many such in VO), this is 20 kilometers. Is it difficult to just see how our American ADAs were destroyed?
    25. 0
      5 February 2023 13: 48
      Traders will always agree. All these balloons, ostentatious blinkin turns and China's response statements are just an improvement in positions before negotiations - "what are the duties on soybeans, how much LNG will be purchased and how many iPhones will the US receive in return ..."
    26. 0
      5 February 2023 14: 43
      Beijing now reserves the right to retaliate.
      Now it's the turn of the amers: it's time for them to send the old kamikaze woman back to Taiwan.
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    27. -1
      5 February 2023 17: 00
      To this day, it is not clear to me how, in the presence of a considerable number of satellites at different distances from the Earth's surface, this weather balloon, with a gondola of two (or three) buses, sailing towards the United States was not noticed in advance and its movement was not accompanied. In the United States, they don’t look at their territory from satellites? Or the photo / video of their specialists do not watch?
      How, in the presence of satellites, can one not notice a balloon moving smoothly over the country?
      Maybe they were waiting for this moment?
      Sorry, but it's really not clear to me when I read that "accidentally discovered".
    28. 0
      5 February 2023 20: 10
      Well, like now, everything that wanders into the territory of China without its approval can be destroyed. Casus belli. I wonder if this works for us? Will the hegemon be able to wage two proxy wars at the same time? I don't think they'll take the risk
    29. +1
      5 February 2023 20: 36
      The whole world has already seen the Chinese response to the arrival of Pelosi, the maximum that they will do so again is the whole fleet will go to sea and the fish will be jammed with rockets and shells, as near Taiwan. China is only ready to fight for its interests in non-long-term conflicts with a deliberately weak enemy, for example, terrorists, or ready to fight for its territory, but except for Taiwan. With the Indians, they are ready, but almost leading to a major conflict.
      With all the power of com. parties in China, in fact, they can only cook inside China, their society is too shaky. But if they become the head of the Shitmocrats, then yes, all the neighbors will be raked off. Well, this is my opinion, I judge by my country - Belarus - everyone has seen the BCHB - so that the same thing can happen in China, just give the government some slack. Therefore, all the jokes about China's response, this is empty, all well-being not only weighs on the work of the proletarians, but also on the technologies of the West and their grown engineers and all the children of the world market with rapture as we look to the West in the 90s, copying their way of life, look their films, etc., etc.. Do you want China to pull someone from the West onto the globe for the Aerostat)))))))
      Thanks to China, and so for the technology, it must be said and their final product, although it needs to be clarified here - China really sees in Ukraine the implementation of NATO plans and sees a rehearsal of the revolution through Ukraine-Belarus-Russia uprising in China.
      1. 0
        6 February 2023 06: 38
        Quote: Muzzle
        With all the power of com. parties in China, in fact, they can only cook inside China, their society is too shaky.

        Tien An Men showed how shaky.

        However, "+" to you.
    30. 0
      5 February 2023 22: 48
      I don’t believe that the Americans were able to shoot down this ball, after the missiles missed, after the planes tried to get it, the ball was simply torn apart ... from laughter)
    31. 0
      6 February 2023 02: 56
      Sobyut plane with the speaker of Congress over Taiwan.
    32. 0
      6 February 2023 17: 01
      Quote: Napayz
      The state border rises to 100-110 km
      Источник: https://be5.biz/pravo/m016/20.html#:~:text=Воздушное%20пространство%20над%20сухопутной%20и,к%20территориям%20с%20международным%20режимом


      The air space over the land and water territory of the state is under its sovereignty. The altitudinal boundary of the state territory is established in accordance with the customary norms of international law at an altitude of 100-110 km. The space above this border belongs to the territories with the international regime.

      International air law governs the operation of aircraft only. Flights in the airspace of space objects are regulated by the norms of space law.

      An aircraft is an aircraft that can stay in the atmosphere by interacting with the air, which is different from interacting with air reflected from the earth's surface. Aircraft does not include: spacecraft, hovercraft, meteorological balloons and unmanned balloons.

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