American experts: Chinese balloon will finally leave US airspace today

The Chinese balloon will finally leave US airspace today. At least, such a scenario was calculated by American experts from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

This was reported by the CNN TV channel.

American experts, based on the weather model, calculated the flight path of the object. Calculations showed that this Saturday the object should leave the US airspace. Experts speculate. That the balloon will cross the territory of the states of Kentucky and Tennessee. After that, he should go to the coast of North Carolina, after which he will continue his journey over the Atlantic Ocean.

This information is confirmed by two representatives of the United States Department of Defense. One of them stated that the balloon would then fall into the ocean.

Earlier in the past few days, a Chinese balloon has crossed US airspace from the northwest to the southeast, making its way from the West Coast, now approaching the East. A balloon the size of three buses flies at an altitude of more than 18 kilometers, so it does not interfere with civilian flights at all. aviation. Meanwhile, because of this incident, US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken canceled his trip to China.

The Pentagon believes that the balloon has special reconnaissance equipment on board and is performing a spy mission, but they do not shoot it down in order to avoid damage to ground facilities. This Thursday, the balloon was in Montana airspace, where US Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missiles are deployed.

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[Grits]

"Finally" - the US politicians and military exhaled joyfully. How much blood did he drink? And how many shoulder straps will fly ...

[Myths]

Shoulder straps will not fly there, they just need some kind of super expensive development against probes.

[dmi.pris1]

It's just a "witch hunt." The outlaws needed another "evil empire"

[Bingo]

Super-stealth air defense will be developed. So stealthy that for the fifth year they have been looking for him in the hangar

[Zhan]

Quote from Mitos

Shoulder straps will not fly there, they just need some kind of super expensive development against probes.

We just got knocked down, that's all ..

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Zhan

Quote from Mitos

Shoulder straps will not fly there, they just need some kind of super expensive development against probes.

We just got knocked down, that's all ..

Who was beaten down? M. Rust shot down?

We remember how the same Americans laughed out loud at the "decisiveness and speed of decision-making" of our pension Politburo, which thought what to do with Rust, until he sat down on Red Square.
Now it's our turn to laugh at Grandpa.

Let me remind you that at that time the Minister of Defense and the commander of the air defense were removed from us. Austin to pack?

[albert]

Quote: Gritsa

Finally," the US politicians and military exhaled joyfully. How much blood he drank to them. And how many shoulder straps will fly ...

Oh well? There are still a couple of new ones flying. They already posted pictures on VK. They fly from South America.

[bars042]

There are still a couple of new ones flying

God loves a trinity, for triangulation that's it! ))

[Azim77]

Quote: Gritsa

"Finally" - the US politicians and military exhaled joyfully.

and added: "the Chinese have only 2-3 balls left."

[Reserve officer]

The outlines are more reminiscent of the famous rubber bomb. I'm waiting for it to start jumping.

[Revolver]

Quote: Gritsa

And how many shoulder straps will fly ...

Under the current administration, they don't fly for such epaulettes. They are more likely to fly for the misuse of pronouns. Everything was clear before: he/him (he/him/his), then she/her (she/her/her) was added. And even homo and transsexuals, who had made up their minds, did not violate this order. But then all sorts of gender fluid, gender non-conforming appeared, and you still don’t understand who / what, and one of them demands that he / her / it be called “they” (they / them / their), and someone invented the gender-neutral pronoun ze/zem/zeirs (hell, I don't even know how to translate it correctly, or even how to pronounce it), and maybe there are more pronouns for certain categories of people that I'm not aware of. And the incorrect use of pronouns to bearers thereof offends the dignity of a soldier - a member of the LGBTQ + community, and this community as a whole. With all the consequences.
Something like that.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Nagan

Under the current administration, they don't fly for such epaulettes.

Quote: Nagan

the misuse of pronouns to carriers thereof offends the dignity of a soldier - a member of the LGBTQ + community, and this community as a whole. With all the consequences.

So this is what important business the American air defense, it turns out, was doing, while the bubble over America made the whole world laugh ...

[astra wild2]

"how many shoulder straps will fly", it doesn't matter to me: 2 or 4. I won't sweep there.
They have robotic vacuum cleaners.
A friend has one and I dream

[Cure72]

But they don't crash...
On VO slowpacks? Or Estonians?
The footage with the work of UWB air defense has long been posted in the cart.
They can not get in)))

[Johnson Smithson]

tried to shoot down, yesterday and today and cannot
https://t.me/boris_rozhin/77185

[Felix]

Because Piglet with a gun is only in Russia.

[Div Divich]

I do not believe that the plane could not be sent to land the balloon, most likely they do not want to complicate relations with China.

[Felix]

Quote: Divy Divych

do not want to complicate relations with China.

Shot down. Changed your mind?

[Volunteer Marek]

18 km? And who said that about 100 km? Or, as over the territory of "exceptional", so 100, but as it leaves the territory, then 18?

[Reviews]

Quote: Volunteer Marek

18 km? And who said that about 100 km?

Really, who? And, most importantly, what kind of stoner took this drug delirium seriously? Aerostat for 100 km? Seriously?

[topol717]

Quote: Avis

Aerostat for 100 km? Seriously?

I heard about 35 km. And even up to 40 "jumped"
18 is too low, although it may already be a little deflated, but then it will definitely not burst itself.

[Blacksmith 55]

So this morning there was an article on VO that it exploded, or it was blown up, that is, it was shot down.
They showed a video with a smoky trail.
Who to believe?

[Guran33 Sergey]

down two miles. Apparently the air defense made holes in it

[Murmur 55]

Something in this "kingdom" is rotten, the balloon flies calmly.

[fiv]

- Vasily Ivanovich, the pimple is flying!
- No, Petka, not a bubble, but a dirigible

[Revolver]

Not certainly in that way.

- Vasil Ivanovich, what is the correct way to write in the report, "statistic" or "statistic"?
- Eh... hmm.. I don't know, Petka, write "depizhopel".

[astra wild2]

"Damage to ground objects"
And not an option to calculate when it will be over a desert area?
I, out of harm, let these balloons: let them pop

[Johnson Smithson]

there are vidos in the cart, they fired several times from the air defense system and everything was past

[former soldier]

"Damage to ground objects"

There are 2 questions here. 1. The balloon crossed the states completely and obliquely and right everywhere stuffed with ground objects, and even such that there is nowhere for a torn plastic bubble to fall? 2. And how are they going to fight off nuclear warheads so that ground facilities are not damaged?
ps. I didn’t think that it was a problem to shoot down a ball at an altitude of 18 km. Powers was shot down over the USSR in 61g (?).

[acetophenone]

And all the royal cavalry
And all the king's men...

[Max Inquisitive]

Another disgrace of the Gigimon.
He didn't have long to rest.

[tralflot1832]

Advertising for the Patriot air defense system ends. Who paid for this banquet?

[igorbrsv]

Patriot will not work on it. Cannon only

[tralflot1832]

The cannon must be delivered to the ball, but here there is a discrepancy everywhere about the flight height of this ball.

[Vic Vic]

The height of the airspace of states is limited to 100-110 km. Everything above is already an international space. If the probe was above 100 km (and it, in my opinion) and was higher, then formally all claims are groundless.
There are no questions about satellites.
You give more reconnaissance probes over the territory of the United States!

[Lykases1]

And what, can balloons rise above 100 km? Of course, I am not an expert, but it is unlikely that it will fly above 50 - 60 km

[al3x]

So it is necessary to launch such balloons on an ongoing basis and not 1-2, but dozens at once. Navigate by cyclones, let them fly themselves over the seas, oceans towards the United States. Draw a sign of radiation on it so that there are more farts

[Kem1972]

ANV-1-B, (VAL-2000) was a record for the USSR (RF) jumped up to 43 m, if memory serves in 000 .... In 1999, having successfully flown from Kamchatka to the Kateggag Strait, 1987 days of flight, an altitude of about 12 37-000 39, the feast of the cartridges did not work for landing ... The raised MiG-000 air defense was visually seen, they could not shoot down. In short, he simply became a research balloon of the USSR Academy of Sciences, not counting the old boots of one of the Air Force officers tied to the suspension

[Oleg812spb]

Flying on the states, it is more useful to them, one politically, the other economically.

[bombaher]

This is a strong response from the Chinese.
Not that on the visit of caps.
The Yankees definitely put it in their pants.

[bober1982]

It was not Blinken who canceled the meeting in Beijing, but Xi Jinping canceled it so elegantly, there were reasons for that.

[Kem1972]

Quote: Kem1972

ANV-1-B, (VAL-2000) was a record for the USSR (RF) jumped up to 43 m, if memory serves in 000 .... In 1999, having successfully flown from Kamchatka to the Kateggag Strait, 1987 days of flight, an altitude of about 12 37-000 39, the feast of the cartridges did not work for landing ... The raised MiG-000 air defense was visually seen, they could not shoot down. In short, he simply became a research balloon of the USSR Academy of Sciences, not counting the old boots of one of the Air Force officers tied to the suspension

Despite the terrible hype, the Danes handed over all the equipment and parachute ... True, one lieutenant colonel and one major lost the 13th ...

[vovochkarzhevsky]

At one time, such balloons drank a lot of the blood of the USSR air defense. Not only are the heights at the limit for air defense fighters, they are not captured by air defense systems. Attempts to shoot from cannons also had no effect, the shells simply pierce without working, and even the shell there is cunning, self-tightening.

[Kem1972]

Starting from the 55-60s, they went at altitudes of about 20, shot down MiG-000s, and in my Yakami ... Then there was an unspoken mutual agreement to fly only over their territory

[ln_ln]

They were knocked down. And the Film and Photo Institute (NIKFI) produced film from them. This film was then used to photograph the far side of the Moon, and was given the ASh mark ("American balls").

[Mini Mokik]

Quote: Volunteer Marek

18 km? And who said that about 100 km? Or, as over the territory of "exceptional", so 100, but as it leaves the territory, then 18?

Apparently, they were not talking about this particular one, but in general about the Chinese program in this area as a whole.

Hohhot, Oct. 19 (Xinhua) -- China's new-type stratospheric balloon Yuanmeng (Dream Realized) landed at a designated location in the Shilin Gol steppe (Inner Mongolia, northern China) the other day. Thus, his trial flight ended in complete success.

During the 20-hour flight, the developers received important test data that will be useful for preparing further flights of the device. It is planned that the balloon will be able to stay in the air for 3-6 months at an altitude of 20-100 km, said the project manager, an employee of the Beijing Nanjiang company Zhu Ming.

It was in 2019, I think.

[Volga073]

The ball is rubber. Air defense missiles bounce off him))

[former soldier]

The ball is rubber. Air defense missiles bounce off him))

Rockets need to be sharpened well.

[Kok_Ivanov]

[/ quote] American experts: Today, a Chinese balloon will finally leave US airspace [quote]

....tu bi continuum...

[Gestas]

Why not hang our hydrogen bomb under it, Eun asked? While they decide what's what, ....

[evgen1221]

Amer at the time of his totem eagle to change to a skunk. Very suit. You start to stink a little with or without.

[Blackbeard]

The Pentagon believes that the balloon has special reconnaissance equipment on board and is performing a spy mission, but they do not shoot it down in order to avoid damage to ground facilities.

Yes of course. Here are the Chinese, well done, they showed the Americans that they are not so omnipotent

[dfk-80]

Trolling in Chinese counted! But he could really be a spy!

[topol717]

In general, if you make it a little bigger and without any equipment, well, maybe hang some kind of mobile phone there so that the radio signal from it goes, and a small solar battery, then you can shoot 60 km, let them think what to shoot down. and make such pieces 20. also number them. The United States wanted star wars, so let them fight.

[usm5]

Russia needs stratospheric airships like air. At an altitude of 40 km, its location radius is 750 km. There is a lot of sun. If flexible photographic plates are built into its shell, the generation of electricity will be up to 200 kW / h, which is more than enough for control and targeting radars, as well as for visual control equipment and an electric motor. An airship with a diameter of 20m and a length of 200m will lift up to 5 tons of payload to the indicated height. They cost ten times less than satellites. About 30 pieces of such devices will make it possible to create a continuous radar field along the entire border of the Russian Federation and to see the approach of low-altitude enemy weapons at ranges of at least 750 km. No "Swifts" and "Tomahawks" will be able to slip unnoticed to our objects. The same number of such airships located above international waters will be able to provide the functions of long-range radar patrol and guidance of weapons against NATO ship groups. If such an airship is lowered to 2-3 km, it will also lift 50 tons. For transportation in any direction at a speed of 120-150 km per hour, no roads are needed. But in the USSR there was a plant for the production of airships, but along with the collapse of communism, the brains of the Russian elite also disintegrated. It seems that she cannot think above the "horizon of her feeders".

[And W2]

1. ASTRAKHAN 1981-2 A probe similar to the current one was launched from the American base of Idzherlik. They hit very hard. 2 regiments MiG-21 and MiG-23 failed. They brought the Yak-28 from the Crimea regiment.
After the shelling, the ball took on a different shape, because the multilayer shell resembled a condom and changed its height when the radar was irradiated and shells hit.

[And W2]

2. There are anti-flutter peaks at the ends of the wings 28. During the firing, the pilot rammed the tip of the wing with a pike and the shell penetrated between the wing and the aileron. Therefore, I saw a shell like a condom. The costs are very high. I can’t say that they shot down the stratospheric balloon. But the trajectory of the further flight and the wind were directed towards Sverdlovsk.

[ycuce234-san]

Quote from bombaher

This is a strong response from the Chinese.

The public reaction is much weaker (we do not take the reaction of government officials) than in the case of a satellite launch - there is a description of that first reaction from eyewitnesses; although this event may also be historical:

.... For the first time I experienced horror - genuine horror, and not an encounter with demons or ghosts that live in my imagination - on one October day in 1957.
...
The manager stepped on the stage and raised his hand, asking for silence - a completely unnecessary gesture.
... We sat on chairs like mannequins and looked at the manager. He looked alarmed and painful - or maybe it was the fault of the lighting. We wondered what a catastrophe caused him to stop the film at the most tense moment, but then the manager spoke, and the trembling in his voice confused us even more.
“I want to inform you,” he began, “that the Russians have launched a satellite into orbit around the Earth.” They called him ... "companion."
The message was met with absolute, deathly silence.
...
I remember very clearly: the terrible dead silence of the cinema was suddenly broken by a lone cry; I don’t know if it was a boy or a girl, the voice was full of tears and frightened anger: “Let's show a movie, liar!”
The manager didn't even look in the direction the voice had come from, and somehow that was the worst part.
...
And here's the question. Everyone remembers where they were when President Kennedy was assassinated. Everyone remembers where they heard that as a result of another madness, Robert Kennedy died in the kitchen of some hotel. Some may even remember where the Cuban Missile Crisis found him.
And who remembers where he was when the Russians launched the satellite? ..
... I believe that many children - children of war, as we were called - remember this event just as well.

(Stephen King. "Dance of Death" (1981))