So will we advance in beautiful columns

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So will we advance in beautiful columns

I read another statement by a Western politician, a Kyiv clown or a Ukrainian military man, and there is some kind of feeling of detachment from reality. It's like I don't know something. As if my friends and acquaintances, who are now kneading the Ukrainian black soil in the trenches, do not know or do not tell me something. As if the military correspondents respected by me are deliberately silent about the coming Great ...

Tomorrow, at the most the day after tomorrow, Russia will launch a great offensive against the Ukraine and put democratic power in Kyiv with the letter Zu. The feeling is like at a classical music concert. The Secretary General of NATO ominously declares that "sees Russia preparing its biggest offensive”, and immediately everyone around in unison sings the refrain about the onset of a “turning point” in the war.



And the most interesting thing is that Russian specialists also participate in this choir. On the one hand, I understand them perfectly. A war cannot be only positional. Advance and retreat is the natural course of war. And one does not have to be seven spans in the forehead, in order, given the fact that the initiative is on our side today, to draw a conclusion about the coming offensive sometime.

On the other hand, watch a video of how the Armed Forces of Ukraine cut an American howitzer out of frozen mud, how wheeled armored vehicles crawl through this mud, etc. This situation, by the way, is on both sides. What kind of offensive in the “next days” can we talk about in such a situation? Put a couple of battalions for nothing?

But I want to start the material about something completely different ...

Why is it necessary to kill all Russians


I have read and listened to arguments many times about what happened to the Ukrainians. Why are they so easily "reformatted"? Where does such hatred towards Russians come from? Where does this desire to destroy even the memory of their ancestors come from, if they were somehow connected with something Russian?

I received an answer from one of the well-known opposition political scientists in Ukraine. Very literate, very logical, but prefers to be in opposition, as it is always easier to criticize than to do something. I used to watch his performances quite often both on television and on the Internet.

Exactly the same thing happened this time. He gave an interview to one of the Ukrainian bloggers with a claim to objectivity. And during the conversation, he touched upon President Putin's speech in Volgograd. Outwardly, it looked like his opinion about Putin, but in fact it is an opinion about all of us. More precisely, an explanation of why it is necessary to kill us.

So, the logic of the Kyiv oppositionist. A fact is not an event, but the way it is written and spoken about. From this follow any doubt that such events took place at all. His example - was there a blockade of Leningrad (the conversation was specifically about Putin) or were these events largely an invention of the communists?

Further. Any civilized person will always take care of his family. About your bank deposits. About your health and life. For him, this is the main thing, and he does not care deeply about what happened before. That someone once defeated someone, killed someone or killed someone. All this is invented by those who tell us about it.

And what about the Russians? Did someone come out to demonstrate when money was blocked in the West? Someone went to the Kremlin demanding to stop the war? But on the other hand, the Russians very painfully perceived the German Tanks with crosses that will be in Ukraine. That is, they are ready to "burn the Germans" again, as their ancestors once did.

Are there still people on the planet who are ready to give their lives for some kind of chimera? For faith, for example? Yes, there are religious fanatics who are ready to blow themselves up and other peaceful people for some kind of burned Koran. Exactly the same approach as the Russians. Only the holy book for Muslims has been replaced by the memory of the deeds of their ancestors.

Is it possible to re-educate a religious fanatic? No! He can only be killed. Russians are exactly the same religious fanatics as the rest. And in the matter of "re-education" we (Ukrainians) must treat the Russians in exactly the same way as they treat fanatics all over the world. Kill!

Here is such a theory of the racial superiority of a civilized person over a Russian barbarian in the interpretation of a superman from ukrov. And now back to the topic of the imminent Russian offensive.

Why the rumors about the preparation of the Ukrainian offensive were replaced by rumors about the Russian offensive


Remember the very recent times, when Kyiv and its Western masters were seriously discussing where it was more profitable to attack. In the south, towards the Crimea, or in the north? All the pros and cons of these directions were analyzed. And suddenly everything stopped. Someone waved a magic wand, and the carriage (peremoga), according to tradition, turned into a pumpkin (zrada).

The “swipe” was so unexpected for many analysts that the media did not even begin to look for the reason for such an unexpected change of opinion. Someone started looking for intelligence from the Americans and the British. Someone to come up with some cunning operations to misinform dill. Someone connected the changes with personnel changes in the command of the Russian Armed Forces.

We are so accustomed to the fact that the NWO has acquired the character of trench warfare, that the fighting is carried out with varying success for each house, while the overall situation remains stable. And suddenly Wagner appeared and began to crush the APU. And following the Wagner volunteers, units of the Defense Ministry, BARS and other armed formations began to show activity. And this activity was accompanied by certain successes.

And it was here that rumors appeared about the preparation of the offensive by the Russians. They appeared not with us, but in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And some evil intrigues of our intelligence officers are not observed in this. Blame... Russian soldiers and officers, volunteers, former corps of the republics and all those who crush dill with their berets.

It was they who, with their successful sorties and the capture of one or the other opnik of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, villages and individual positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, sowed doubts in the minds of the enemy staff officers about their own conclusions. It turned out that all the plans that were agreed with the Pentagon and Brussels went to waste. It has become simply impossible to determine the direction where the offensive is being prepared!

And then panic. Experts saw her pretty quickly. Remember the transfer of units and units from one direction to another? Plugging holes after the activation of the Russians in some direction. Even today this turmoil continues. How many brigades were defeated in Artemovsk? Look at the prisoners who are with us today in decent numbers. Many have served not even months or weeks. Literally days...

Look at the statistics of enemy fire damage. The lion's, even the elephant's share of all losses is the work of Russian artillery. And if we count the queen of the fields with the VKS, then the enemy suffers 90 percent of losses precisely from the actions of these units and subunits.

And the enemy bears a huge part of the losses during the redeployment of units and subunits. Learned to shoot accurately. Recently I saw a video in which ours hit an infantry fighting vehicle in motion with a 152-mm caliber. If I didn't see it, I wouldn't believe it. But the fact remains. Maybe a miracle, or maybe a skill.

And another happy event. Have you noticed how the name “mobiki”, once launched by the Ukropress, disappeared from the media? And again, the soldiers and officers are to blame ... the 144th Guards MSD. The division, which includes Bryansk and Smolensk fighters, not only held back the attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for a week, but also went on the offensive. Those same mobiles kicked the ass of the VSUkam to the fullest.

So are we coming or not? Beautiful, as near Moscow in the 41st or on the Kursk Bulge, in Belarus. A bunch of artillery, tank wedges, soldiers running to attack machine guns... Otherwise, everything is somehow wrong. We take settlements, we take strong points, we crush armored vehicles, we destroy personnel. But are we coming? I think a lot of people have thought about it. And I consider it necessary to conduct a small educational program for those who cannot answer this question.

It's all about terms. Offensive actions and offensive are slightly different actions. Offensive action is what we see today at the front. In different areas, we are gradually tearing the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Small pieces, but we tear. We are destroying the defense system that the Ukrainian troops have created.

Perhaps such tactics in some area will create conditions for a quick leap forward for some distance. But even this breakthrough is difficult to call an offensive in the classical sense of the word. Partly in this lies the panicky misunderstanding of the actions of the Russian army among the staff officers of the Western armies and the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Today it is impossible even approximately to determine not only the timing of the onset, but also the place where it can happen. As they say, always and everywhere. Our troops today operate quite successfully and effectively. I have already written about how much the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine exceed ours. Artemovsk is a meat grinder. Other towns and cities too.

"Russian offensive" for the next supply of weapons


Talking about the possible offensive of the Russian army, it is impossible to get around the very essence of the Western approach to this issue. I have written many times about the aims of the West in this war. In the end it all comes down to one thing. To money. Earn money and create conditions for further pumping money from Ukraine, and ideally from Russia.

Above, I wrote that there is no understanding of the actions of the Russian army in the Western headquarters now. But there is an understanding that Western armies need to replace obsolete weapons, and the American military industry needs military orders for many years. Simply put, a pretext is needed for the supply of junk to Ukraine.

A very simple circuit. We frighten the Western man in the street and the Western governments with the Russian offensive, and under this fear we demand an increase in military supplies, we demand a change in the range of these weapons. All the rhetoric that the Western media is spreading today fits perfectly into this scheme.

By the way, have you noticed an interesting feature of the current situation? Kyiv no longer refers to US intelligence data. Previously, politicians and the military of Ukraine had such references almost daily, and suddenly everything calmed down. Now the trend is some kind of institute for the study of war and other "public organizations." Moreover, the loud name without decoding provides the necessary "weight" of this "institute".

In the same way, rumors about an attack by Belarus on Ukraine quickly subsided. An attempt to promote this topic stumbled upon the silence of Western intelligence services or statements that intelligence did not detect any signs of preparations for an offensive from Minsk. But a year ago, before the start of the NMD, the Western media were inundated with photographs of the Russian army on the borders with Ukraine.

But be that as it may, the old tanks from the European armies will be delivered. Mission accomplished. And how it will be there, no one is interested. The Moor did his job. The main tasks of the United States have been completed. Europe was crushed under itself. Relations between the EU and Russia have been destroyed. Moscow was slightly weakened. So Kyiv will now fight for itself.

So will there be an offensive in any form


The answer is unequivocal. Will! The capture of the same Artemovsk and access to the operational space, where there are no serious strongholds - is this an offensive? Undoubtedly! Is the capture of the right bank and access to the Dnieper or Zaporozhye an offensive? Naturally.

Theoretically, any more or less success of the Russian army can be called an offensive. Of course, specialists in their professional circles will know what happened, but for the average reader, for the average layman, this will really be an offensive.

And the last. Any offensive by our army is a huge nail in the coffin of the Kyiv authorities and Zelensky personally. The weak are not loved. The weak are finished off by their former friends. Maybe that's why the Americans are organizing a general audit of Ukrainian spending today. They clean up after themselves. So it's just getting started...

And about what I started this article with, I advise you to think very hard ... What should we do in order to save the people and return the brain to the right place ...
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  1. +3
    8 February 2023 04: 10
    and put your mind back in the right place...
    And this may be more difficult than taking Artemovsk"
    Although ... How to turn. Maybe the "Maidan of the brain" will be cured!
    1. -16
      8 February 2023 07: 32
      Quote from Uncle Lee
      Maybe the "Maidan of the brain" will be cured!

      Why not? They were able to, but are we worse than them - we slurp cabbage soup with bast shoes?
    2. +21
      8 February 2023 08: 12
      No one to step on can not for completely different reasons, the parties came to a strategic balance. The assault on the mini-Verdun is more about the obstinacy of the parties, and not about the real result.
      1. -31
        8 February 2023 08: 21
        Quote: Civil
        Nobody can go anywhere

        But we are advancing. You read, hear, see in the media that we are moving forward, while the enemy is running. It's stupid to deny it.

        Quote: Civil
        The assault on mini-verdun is more about obstinacy

        So you agree that we are storming i.e. we are advancing.

        If you forgot, I'll remind you. There is not a war of Russians against Russians in Ukraine (the stubborn "Ukrainians" were ground in the first nine calls), but the NVO to liberate their people and their territories from the Kyiv gang. RELEASE, not capture.
        1. +39
          8 February 2023 10: 29
          There are battles for small villages and the enemy does not run, but holds them to the last.
          1. +2
            8 February 2023 18: 44
            Do you really think that ours are rolling in an avalanche, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine are heroically resisting? There are no dashing attacks at all! There is a transformation into minced fortifications and their systematic cleaning. Yes, it is not fast and not spectacular. But it's safe.
            1. +2
              8 February 2023 21: 17
              Quote: Radius
              Do you really think that ours are rolling in an avalanche, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine are heroically resisting? There are no dashing attacks at all! There is a transformation into minced fortifications and their systematic cleaning. Yes, it is not fast and not spectacular. But it's safe.

              You are correct. But a legitimate question arises - and how much will we systematically clean up?
              A year, two, three?
              While we are clearing Ugledar and Artyomovsk, they are building the next lines of defense.
              After Artyomovsk, we will run into Slavyans and Kramatorsk. How long will we take them and when will we take them in a few months, and these are definitely months, because there is no Ukrainian Girkin in Slavyansk, which the city will hand over to us.
              So after that, the next fortified area will be waiting for us, and so on.
              We do not have enough time to fight with Ukraine for years.
              We'll burst out.
              1. +5
                10 February 2023 18: 34
                Boris! Is Girkin guilty of surrendering Slavyansk? And who is to blame for the surrender of Kherson? Maybe during the assault on Kherson there will be a Ukrainian general Armageddon? Why is Donetsk being shelled a year after the start of the NMD?, but at first we were already near Kyiv, I think about Girkin, you are not quite right, to put it mildly, but I agree with you about the rest, we have very little time, a stream of heavy weapons will come from the West.
                1. 0
                  10 February 2023 19: 37
                  Quote: sergey backgrounds
                  Boris! Is Girkin guilty of surrendering Slavyansk? And who is to blame for the surrender of Kherson? Maybe during the assault on Kherson there will be a Ukrainian general Armageddon? Why is Donetsk being shelled a year after the start of the NMD?, but at first we were already near Kyiv, I think about Girkin, you are not quite right, to put it mildly, but I agree with you about the rest, we have very little time, a stream of heavy weapons will come from the West.

                  Did I say that Surovikin is not guilty of surrendering Kherson?
                  Sivkov, for example, said that we only had 5 thousand equipment there. units and kept ukrov at a distance of 40 km. from Kherson.
                  There were every opportunity to continue to hold the city.
                  Whether he is right or not, I don’t know, I just conveyed his words.
              2. 0
                3 March 2023 09: 16
                Why not? You can fight for a hundred years. If the economy picks up.
                The question is the degree of endurance of our economy and the support of Ukraine by the West.
        2. +39
          8 February 2023 11: 05
          Quote: Boris55
          we go forward, and the enemy runs

          We arrived in February last year. Due to the effect of surprise.
          Now there are epic battles for the forester's hut and the barn next to it.
          1. -18
            8 February 2023 17: 19
            Now there are epic battles for the forester's hut and the barn next to it.

            Do you think Bakhmut is a forester's hut, and Seversk is a barn next to it? There Avdeevka, Marinka, Sands and Ugledar ..
            1. +13
              8 February 2023 20: 18
              "Do you think Bakhmut is a forester's hut"
              what, they already took it?
              "There Avdeevka, Marinka, Sands and Ugledar .."
              this is the stand-alone hut, maybe not a forester, but the hut, and also, they didn’t take
        3. AUL
          +13
          8 February 2023 13: 23
          Quote: Boris55
          But we are advancing. You read, hear, see in the media that we are moving forward, while the enemy is running. It's stupid to deny it.

          What is stupid to deny? That we see and hear a lot in the media? Indeed, there is a lot to say and show!
        4. -1
          9 February 2023 13: 31
          Quote: Boris55
          If you forgot, I'll remind you. There is not a war of Russians against Russians in Ukraine (the stubborn "Ukrainians" were ground in the first nine calls), but the NVO to liberate their people and their territories from the Kyiv gang. RELEASE, not capture.

          Nightmare! TsIPSO and their accomplices quite insolent. On the Russian site, you, simply stating the prevailing preponderance of our forces, received 39 minuses.
          So where is the VO administration looking?
      2. -8
        8 February 2023 14: 07
        Quote: Civil
        No one to step on can not for completely different reasons, the parties came to a strategic balance. The assault on the mini-Verdun is more about the obstinacy of the parties, and not about the real result.

        So you read about the Brusilovsky breakthrough. About the theory of a larger strategic offensive, where pressure is exerted on the enemy along the entire length of the front at once or in parts, pulling away reserves to plug breakthroughs and stop the enemy’s local successes. From the theory of network-centric warfare to the theory of strategic offensive operations along the entire length of the front, as Brusilov bequeathed, the theory was later finalized in the Red Army to a warrior, but the Second World War with its blitzkrieg made its own adjustments. And now our army has essentially switched to a strategic offensive along the entire front line of 1,5 thousand KM for the enemy, this is just a nightmare. For the year, tactics have changed for the third time.
        1. -5
          8 February 2023 16: 04
          Quote: insafufa
          And now our army has essentially switched to a strategic offensive along the entire front line of 1,5 thousand KM for the enemy, this is just a nightmare. For the year, tactics have changed for the third time.

          The offensive is going for the same points as in 2015, but now the offensive under Ugledar is developing more slowly than under Debaltsev in 2015. The victory will be won by the one who uses drones and high-precision weapons more competently and massively or compensates for this by using nuclear weapons.
          1. +2
            8 February 2023 18: 46
            The points are the same, but the result for the APU is completely different
          2. +1
            8 February 2023 18: 58
            Quote: gsev
            The offensive goes beyond the same points as in 2015, but now the offensive is developing at a slower pace near Ugledar than near Debaltsev in 2015.

            Debaltseve in 2015 did not have such fortifications as Ugledar in 2023. Banderlog has been preparing a layered defense for 8 years.
            Quote: gsev
            The one who is smarter wins

            This is yes.
            1. +8
              8 February 2023 20: 22
              "Debaltseve in 2015 did not have such fortifications as Vugledar in 2023. Banderlog has been preparing layered defense for 8 years"
              can you bring at least one photo or video about echeloned defense? photos of concrete sheds, country cellars and crooked trenches knee-deep - no need, already shown
              1. +1
                9 February 2023 00: 57
                Quote: aglet
                "Debaltseve in 2015 did not have such fortifications as Vugledar in 2023. Banderlog has been preparing layered defense for 8 years"
                can you bring at least one photo or video about echeloned defense? photos of concrete sheds, country cellars and crooked trenches knee-deep - no need, already shown

                But faith doesn’t allow you to google yourself, or what? Do you only live on alms? Well here you have a few offhand links if so
                The first link is from our site, and the rest are from different resources, in order to de-energize your skepticism about the fact that "FSE is lying and there is no confirmation anywhere else"
                https://topwar.ru/page,1,4,79564-ukrepleniya-vsu-pod-mariupolem-s-drugogo-rakursa.html
                https://bmpd.livejournal.com/1477719.html?replyto=125723991
                https://e-news.su/mnenie-i-analitika/73725-rezhim-tishiny-stroyka-provokacii.html
                https://www.donetsk.kp.ru/online/news/3528793/
                https://www.politnavigator.net/vsu-vybity-iz-vazhnejjshego-ukreprajjona-doroga-na-slavyansk-otkryta.html
                1. +5
                  9 February 2023 06: 07
                  The first link from our site, ...

                  I decided to look at your links - somehow funny. Are you proving your opponent's thesis? Or are you saying that it takes 8 years of effort to build this squalor?
                  And don't say I underestimate these fortifications. We are talking about whether it takes 8 years to create them.
                  With proper leadership, we could create such elements of the local Maginot Line in a month, and not leave the territories where "Russia is here forever."
                2. +3
                  9 February 2023 13: 14
                  “But faith doesn’t allow you to google yourself, or what? You only live on alms? Well, here are a few offhand links for you if so”
                  searched, could not find. everywhere the same squalor as on your links, which can be built not in 8 years, but in 8 hours, and the only sense from them is to hide behind the rain. any 3-inch fluff, or an 82mm mortar will destroy this fortification with one hit
                  1. +2
                    9 February 2023 22: 24
                    any 3-inch fluff, or an 82mm mortar will destroy this fortification with one hit

                    So this is if it hits ... And if this towed, that is, motionless cannon, after several shots, is not tracked and smashed as part of a counter-battery fight.
            2. +3
              9 February 2023 14: 15
              Debaltseve in 2015 did not have such fortifications as Ugledar in 2023. Banderlog has been preparing a layered defense for 8 years.

              And when did the Armed Forces of Ukraine manage to dig fortifications near Ugledar? Did they know 8 years ago that the front would reach there?
          3. -4
            9 February 2023 07: 02
            Considering that Ukraine does not have nuclear weapons, we just wait until the Russian Federation gets tired of standing, and the Armed Forces will use nuclear weapons.
            1. +5
              9 February 2023 12: 05
              Quote from Bioorganism
              Considering that Ukraine does not have nuclear weapons, we just wait until the Russian Federation gets tired of standing, and the Armed Forces will use nuclear weapons.

              And then what? Will you spud each fortified TNW? The use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine is almost guaranteed to develop into a third world war, with all the consequences.
            2. -1
              10 February 2023 18: 39
              Tactical nuclear weapons should be used along communications in western Ukraine, in a less populated area with difficult terrain.
          4. -1
            9 February 2023 07: 59
            Quote: gsev
            The victory will be won by the one who uses drones and high-precision weapons more competently and massively or compensates for this by using nuclear weapons.

            What are you all cheers patriots obsessed with edren long loaf. Damn bato, you forget about him, the warrior will be carried out by conventional means, or you don’t have enough Chernobyl and the South Ural radioactive trace on the Kyshtym tragedy in the Chelyabinsk region. In many places where there is radiation, even the city of Kogalym, in which the first half of my childhood passed, stands on the site of a nuclear explosion. The OBE is overrated as a surgical instrument for precision surgery. Now we need a saw that will cut off the entire leg and arm, there is no time to do vascular surgery when gangrene has gone. A vigorous loaf will not be used, as this will be an excellent gift for propaganda of the West.
        2. +4
          9 February 2023 09: 12
          So you read about the Brusilovsky breakthrough.

          This "masterpiece" of military art is nothing more than an offensive in several areas in order to prevent the enemy from transferring reserves and sealing the breakthrough. This method requires huge expenditures and is characterized by a very shallow penetration depth, due to the dispersal of the forces of the attackers.
          One of the advantages of such a strategy is a simpler logistics. Since the attacking groups are more evenly spread along the front, which allows you to use more roads. Also in the army of the Republic of Ingushetia they remembered how the attempt of "deep" strikes in East Prussia ended. Because of the times .......... (well, you understand) and the "splendid" organization of communications and command and control. We managed to lose 2 armies where the Germans, in general, were preparing for defeat. Here's something that reminded me. 100 years have passed and the traditions are strong. No wonder they invested so much in RI cosplay. The result is obvious.
          Well, let's get back to our sheep.
          Brussilov applied it not from genius, but from the fact that the army of the Republic of Ingushetia could not carry out deep breakthroughs. The Allies solved a similar problem with tanks. Germans assault groups and artillery fire. We are an attempt to crush the mass. By the way, don't you remember HOW this breakthrough, God forgive me, ended? Promotion of 100 km. Within a month, all these attempts to advance were blocked and repulsed. We were greatly helped by the fact that then Germany and Austria fought on 3 fronts. And while the Austrians were trying to defeat the Italians, we hit them. And then the attack on the Somme of the allies saved the Germans from the counteroffensive. All attempts to develop success by neighboring fronts only led to losses. So it’s strange to be proud of SUCH an operation. Stalin's 10 strikes look much more effective and coordinated.
      3. -8
        8 February 2023 18: 56
        . No one can step anywhere for completely different reasons.

        Before you go anywhere, you need to prepare the ground. Take leisurely cities such as Slavyansk and Kramatorsk.
        As for balance. We now have in reserve 150 fighters who have already passed combat coordination.
        And I sincerely hope that they will announce additional mobilization, at least three hundred thousand people. On the other hand, volunteer battalions are continuously formed. Perhaps the second wave of mobilization is excessive, given the reserve. But it's better to have and not need than to need and not have.
        1. 0
          8 February 2023 21: 06
          Quote: igorbrsv
          New

          How is it not in a hurry? Until next winter?
          With regards to additional mobilization, I agree here and spoke about it myself.
          If we want to complete all the planned tasks, then without additional. mobilization is indispensable.
          The question is whether we will be able to provide this additional conscription with everything necessary, and most importantly, with art equipment, tanks, infantry fighting vehicles.
          You can't do them quickly.
          1. +4
            9 February 2023 12: 46
            Quote: Ulan.1812
            Quote: igorbrsv
            New

            How is it not in a hurry? Until next winter?
            With regards to additional mobilization, I agree here and spoke about it myself.
            If we want to complete all the planned tasks, then without additional. mobilization is indispensable.
            The question is whether we will be able to provide this additional conscription with everything necessary, and most importantly, with art equipment, tanks, infantry fighting vehicles.
            You can't do them quickly.

            The past mobilization showed the absolute unpreparedness of the Russian army and conscription systems for it. Not to mention the fact that the mobilized bought uniforms for themselves. Recently I read on the blog of one of the authors who is now called upon how they sew machine gun pouches for themselves. Because damn it, there are no normal pouches.
            1. -1
              9 February 2023 14: 33
              Quote: certero
              Quote: Ulan.1812
              Quote: igorbrsv
              New

              How is it not in a hurry? Until next winter?
              With regards to additional mobilization, I agree here and spoke about it myself.
              If we want to complete all the planned tasks, then without additional. mobilization is indispensable.
              The question is whether we will be able to provide this additional conscription with everything necessary, and most importantly, with art equipment, tanks, infantry fighting vehicles.
              You can't do them quickly.

              The past mobilization showed the absolute unpreparedness of the Russian army and conscription systems for it. Not to mention the fact that the mobilized bought uniforms for themselves. Recently I read on the blog of one of the authors who is now called upon how they sew machine gun pouches for themselves. Because damn it, there are no normal pouches.

              That's it ... My friend, having received a summons, went to buy armor and shoes, and so on.
      4. 0
        12 February 2023 11: 14
        According to the title, it looked like the author hinted at a recent incident with a convoy of Russian troops near Ugledar, but did not want to discuss this case. From the drone of the Armed Forces of Ukraine it was filmed how the column of armored vehicles rode beautifully along the forest plantation and most of them were destroyed, there are a lot of burnt tanks there ... Everyone is in shock what kind of offensive this is, why didn’t they destroy the reconnaissance drone, why did they pile up in a targeted area?
        Such marches will definitely not be able to win.
  2. 0
    8 February 2023 04: 39
    Any offensive by our army is a huge nail in the coffin of the Kyiv authorities
    Nobody argues with this. But it is desirable that the nail be hardened, sharp and cannot be bent.
    put your brain back in the right place...
    If the author is talking about the brain in Ukrainian heads, then today it presents certain difficulties, because it was not in vain that for more than thirty years they had been reformatting consciousness, which greatly affected the functions of the brain.
    1. old
      +8
      8 February 2023 08: 39
      But it is desirable that the nail be hardened, sharp and cannot be bent.

      It is also very desirable to hammer a nail with a tool specially designed for this and from the right side ..
    2. -1
      8 February 2023 09: 26
      Quote: rotmistr60
      put your brain back in the right place...
      If the author is talking about the brain in Ukrainian heads, then today it presents certain difficulties, because it was not in vain that for more than thirty years they had been reformatting consciousness, which greatly affected the functions of the brain.

      Very big difficulties, because. not thirty, but all 100 years, this very reformatting of consciousness took place. They have been told for 100 years that they are special and the best.
    3. -1
      10 February 2023 18: 46
      Success is achieved when it is carefully prepared, and any offensive is a direct path to defeat.
  3. +43
    8 February 2023 05: 25
    The article is trying to bring out some kind of radiant prospect from the hardest strategic impasse in which the Russian Federation is located, but it turns out badly.
    Why is it not heard about the offensive of Maidan Ukraine? Yes, they talk about him from every iron. Only it will be after receiving new packages with Western military assistance. Both time and place are known. May-June. Place-or blow to Berdyansk or the north of the Lugansk region.
    The strategy of Maidan Ukraine is now simple as a drum and completely repeats its actions last summer. Substitute your second-rate units under our insane attack on the fortifications in the Donbass, prepare reserves and then strike at a weak spot. This is what they did last year, and although everyone knew everything perfectly, thanks to our amazing leadership, they succeeded. Now the same thing, only there will be much more weapons and people (but our defense has become stronger).
    It is much more difficult to understand the strategy of the Russian Federation - politically everything is unchanged: there is no war, we recognize Zelensky and want to agree. From a military point of view, after the stabilization of the front in the fall, it was decided to "tire out" the enemy, who has fewer human resources. They say that after a year of such a war, ala Verdun, the West will agree to a truce since the Ukrainians will run out. Well, "tiring" in the first place will be those who are not very sorry - criminals, mercenaries and residents of Donbass. Everything would be fine only the West would respond to this by raising rates and supplying high-tech weapons.
    Now the question arose - to attack in February in order to knock the enemy out of preparation and prevent him from seizing the initiative, or stupidly wait for his strike, hoping to repel him?
    Everyone expected that the leadership of the Russian Federation would advance, and there were indeed signs of this. Hence the talk about our offensive, completely repeating the talk before 24.02.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX. However, whether our authorities decide on this is an open question. So far, judging by indirect signs, no.
    Again, the decision was made to do nothing. Why?. Whether by the fact that our army showed, to put it mildly, low offensive capabilities, or because the authorities fell into a stupor, or because they again hope for an agreement, God knows.
    But if there is no our offensive, then until May we will see an insane zerg rush in the Donbass with an epic battle for the ruins of Maryinka or Artemovsk, after the capture of which it suddenly turns out that there is no "space" behind them, but there are new similar towns and cities.
    1. -17
      8 February 2023 07: 08
      Any large-scale offensive now means big losses, the opportunity to fall under a counterattack by the reserves that are being prepared in NATO. Forces (infantry) are not enough for a large-scale offensive and tough defense in the rear. They will break through, I repeat, there is not enough strength, they will trample, crush. Again, let's return to the fall of last year. It’s not worth considering our generals as idiots, at the beginning it was, now they’ve come to their senses, and they have nowhere to go. The territory of Ukraine is held only in the west, the west will get tired, it will become unprofitable for them, supplies will fall or even decrease, but it will be, then you can shy away. When, no one knows. And the tactics now are really unusual, somehow imperceptibly, without pathos, they began to put pressure little by little, but everywhere.
      1. +31
        8 February 2023 11: 13
        Quote: Shark Lover
        the west will get tired, it will become unprofitable for them, supplies will fall

        You may be surprised, but the supply of weapons, especially to a warring country, is a monstrously profitable enterprise. They won't get tired. They will deliver EVERYTHING and in commercial quantities.
        1. Alf
          +7
          8 February 2023 18: 28
          Quote: Mishka78
          the supply of weapons, especially to a country at war, is a monstrously profitable enterprise. They won't get tired. They will deliver EVERYTHING and in commercial quantities.

          And weapons manufacturers in the West are already rubbing their hands ...
        2. -4
          8 February 2023 19: 06
          Will deliver everything in commercial quantities laughing
          Are there charitable organizations in the west?
          This enterprise is profitable until the last panties were removed from ukrov. Then it becomes unprofitable. Neither Rheinmetal nor Starlink will be supplied for free without profit. Corporations will not be able to pay from the budget for a long time. The budget was also not collected at a charity party
          1. +5
            9 February 2023 00: 32
            And what, is it necessary to remove panties from Ukrainians? It is also possible from your own taxpayers, if you explain to them why this is necessary. And the situation in Ukraine is an excellent explanation.
            1. -1
              10 February 2023 18: 54
              They will undress both Ukrainians and their own, in the end they can shave their bare hinds and sell hair for wigs, so the CBO will not end tomorrow.
          2. +2
            9 February 2023 06: 15
            This enterprise is profitable until the last panties were removed from ukrov.

            There is someone to take off :) The rearmament of Europe - and not only - with the transfer of outdated ukrams - is a great business. Some deliveries of F-35s and Abrams for replacement are worth something.
            Yes, and the military-industrial complex stabilized the economy of the West quite well during the years of the First Cold War.
      2. +9
        8 February 2023 20: 56
        Quote: Shark Lover
        Any large-scale offensive now means big losses, the opportunity to fall under a counterattack by the reserves that are being prepared in NATO. Forces (infantry) are not enough for a large-scale offensive and tough defense in the rear. They will break through, I repeat, there is not enough strength, they will trample, crush. Again, let's return to the fall of last year. It’s not worth considering our generals as idiots, at the beginning it was, now they’ve come to their senses, and they have nowhere to go. The territory of Ukraine is held only in the west, the west will get tired, it will become unprofitable for them, supplies will fall or even decrease, but it will be, then you can shy away. When, no one knows. And the tactics now are really unusual, somehow imperceptibly, without pathos, they began to put pressure little by little, but everywhere.

        And what are they "dumbass"?
        Take fortified areas in the forehead?
        Even Zhukov, by his order, forbade taking German strongholds head-on.
        Bypass and if you attack then to the flank and rear.
        And the smart ones, that they didn’t study this in the academies?
        Who is to blame for the fact that the army was not ready, that they did not take care of preparing the reserve in advance?
        Pushkin Alexander Sergeevich is to blame or "smart"?
      3. +11
        8 February 2023 21: 39
        Quote: Shark Lover
        Any large-scale offensive now is a big loss, the ability to fall under a counterattack by the reserves that are being prepared in NATO

        NATO is preparing not a counterattack, but a strike, and it cannot be earlier than May. That's the point, that if we do not want to receive a prepared strike in May, we need to attack in February. Then it will be late due to the weather, and then we will not be able to advance.
        As far as risk is concerned, yes. The offensive is risky, Strelkov believes that there is no need to attack at all now, since we do not know how and are not ready. But, in my opinion, the alternative is even worse, it is impossible to win the war simply by sitting on the defensive and with suicidal "private" attacks on the fortifications in the Donbass.
        Quote: Shark Lover
        The territory of Ukraine is held only in the west, the west will get tired, it will become unprofitable for them, supplies will drop or even decrease, but it will, then you can shy away

        It's not right away. The West (and especially the US) gets all the cream out of this war. Russians kill Russians on their own land and at their own expense, and the West only earns. Beauty same!!
        Their only problem is that there is not so much cannon fodder. There are no such suicides as the Maidan Ukrainians anywhere else. Even the Poles will not replace them. So the strategy to achieve negotiations after all Ukrainians run out has the right to exist. But I don't really believe in it. The enemy has too much technological advantage. We are too bad and our main production of weapons is simply scanty. We will not pull a long war on our own.
        Quote: Shark Lover
        It’s not worth considering our generals as idiots, at the beginning it was, now they’ve come to their senses, and they have nowhere to go.

        I am not inclined to hang all the dogs on our generals. They operate within a very narrow framework of political agreements. But they are also "well done" with us
        Now we have finished another attack on Ugledar. God knows what the score is. Again on the forehead, again with insufficient forces, and again at the enemy’s most prepared point. Again, heavy losses among our best units (marines). And all this is repeated for a whole year.
        And we have a dozen such coal miners. You call it "unusual tactics", but for me this is stupidity or treason. If all the people and all the equipment that was so mediocrely laid down in a year were used with minimal benefit, Donbass would have been liberated long ago for an offensive against the enemy with insufficient forces.
        1. 0
          12 February 2023 11: 29
          we ended another attack on Ugledar. God knows what the score is. Again on the forehead, again with insufficient forces

          At the moment, the more forces accumulate in one place, the more forces will be destroyed. It is absolutely impossible to accumulate a lot of armored vehicles. Have you seen the telegram video? The column rode and was destroyed without having time to join the battle. Absolutely mediocre lost forces.

          and for me it's stupidity or treason

          Yeah. A radius of several kilometers must be completely cleared of UAF drones, but the Defense Ministry does not pay attention to reconnaissance drones and substitutes columns for destruction.
      4. +1
        9 February 2023 15: 46
        It is strange how the enemy is preparing to massively attack the attack, that is, to gather in front? And what will our aviation do? No, seriously, what will aviation do in this case? They will trample down who knows - I think they took into account last autumn.
        1. +3
          9 February 2023 22: 27
          Quote: saigon
          And what will our aviation do? No, seriously, what will aviation do in this case?

          Let's not talk about our aviation, otherwise I'll start cursing and get banned. Of all the disappointments of the NVO, probably the biggest is the "VKS" (especially attack aircraft). Look, we are now conducting 4 private offensives - Artemovsk, Ugledar, and Kremennaya and Kupyansk connected with each other by the operational idea. What is the role of aviation in these offensives? Yes, no. Super LBS pitch-ups and rare air-to-ground missile launches. What is the real impact on the course of ground operations? None.
          Yes, in the event of an attack by ukrov, aviation will be easier, they will work and destroy something, but they will not be a significant factor in stopping it.
    2. -43
      8 February 2023 07: 48
      Quote: Belisarius
      The article is trying to get out of the hardest strategic impasse in which the Russian Federation is located, to bring out some kind of radiant prospect, ...

      What deadlock are you talking about? We are advancing on the NWO, the enemy is running. In economic terms, we bloom and smell. The Western economy is degrading, the lives of local citizens are deteriorating, as evidenced by mass strikes. We don't have anything like that.

      From what puddle do you drink water and at whose mill do you pour it?
      1. +34
        8 February 2023 09: 04
        What are you even talking about?) who is advancing? since August we have been taking the Soledar urban-type settlement ... who is running where? An enemy motivated to the point of impossibility? Yes, right now ... have seen enough of the first channel) life in the west is getting worse? the economy is not degrading us because it simply does not exist ... they don’t come out to defend their rights, because 5 million security forces are there to suppress protests .... our already difficult life is deteriorating, and this can be seen from all indicators ... we’ll finish the stabilization fund this year, there will be no money for that beggar social that was ... you will descend from heaven to earth, or rather from the media screens
        1. +27
          8 February 2023 09: 41
          .
          you will descend from heaven to earth, or rather from the media screens
          What for? It's better there, in heaven. smile
        2. -3
          8 February 2023 19: 10
          This year, GDP growth is predicted by 0.3%. Why are we finishing the stabilization fund?
          And where is this stabilization fund? Something is unseen from his place.
          This is not the one that Western jackals torn apart?
          1. +3
            9 February 2023 14: 50
            “And where is this stabilization fund?
            maybe you've eaten already?
          2. +2
            9 February 2023 14: 52
            "GDP is projected to grow by 0.3% this year"
            Is it within the statistical error? and, again, predict
      2. +19
        8 February 2023 11: 21
        Quote: Boris55
        In economic terms - we bloom and smell

        The smell is just not very...
        https://www.interfax.ru/business/884883
        The federal budget of the Russian Federation in January, according to preliminary data, was executed with a deficit of 1,776 trillion rubles, which was 14 times higher than its volume in January last year (125 billion rubles) and amounted to 60% of plans for 2023 (2,925 trillion rubles).

        https://neftegaz.ru/news/Trading/768663-srednyaya-tsena-nefti-urals-v-yanvare-2023-g-snizilas-na-2-a-diskont-k-brent-vyros/
        The average oil price of the main Russian export grade Urals in January 2023 was $49,48/bbl. Compared to January 2022, the average price of Urals oil decreased by 1,7 times.

        Boris, stop smoking kiselyov. It liquefies your brain.
        1. +5
          8 February 2023 16: 13
          Quote: Mishka78
          The federal budget of the Russian Federation in January, according to preliminary data, was executed with a deficit of 1,776 trillion rubles, which is 14 times higher than its volume in January last year

          It's just time to cut back on spending on theaters, sports, and other show-offs like installing tiles instead of lawns. If we are boycotted by the IOC, then according to the smart advice of Kadyrov, which he made during the first IOC attack against Russia, we need to leave this organization and stop funding Olympic officials both in Russia and in the world.
          1. +13
            8 February 2023 19: 39
            By the way, state budget spending on theaters alone is simply astronomical: according to the latest data, for 2018, and then they are closed (!) - about 70 BILLION rubles. And this is in one year. Three years - and the Crimean Bridge, or some major military programs, planes / helicopters and whatever! And then there is the Cinema Support Fund, where, too, billions of rubles fall into a "black hole". And, for example, having received 1 billion rubles to create the Goalkeeper of the Galaxy movie blunder, its creators, having spent, conditionally, 200 million on this fallen "raspberry", live simply chic and they, like the theatrical party (with the Winagogue), do not care how many tickets the audience bought. And there is also football, where players receive millions of euros a year - ABOUT 80 PERCENT of this money is subsidies from the budget and sponsors, the same Gazprom, the same state.
            To summarize: it hurts to watch when ordinary people send drones, sleeping bags, etc. to the front
            It is really necessary that this cult party live on what it earns, and the stupid policy to appease, bribe them with money and the titles of Honored Artist completely failed - "thousands and thousands fell down". Hundreds of thousands. It's time to do something about it. The money is really big.
          2. +2
            9 February 2023 21: 51
            It's just time to cut spending on theaters, sports and other window dressing

            These expenses are such a minuscule compared to the withdrawal of capital to offshore companies by large Russian businesses. 250 billion were withdrawn last year dollars. For comparison, the budget of the Russian Federation for the year 23 is about 450 billion dollars. For the first time in the last 15 years, the budget has been formed with a deficit. Deputy before the Council of Ministers Belousov offered big business voluntarily for at least 250 billion rubles pay off the budget deficit from their own funds. But the "trade union" of the oligarchs refused to help the country in difficult times. Here you have the whole balance of power. sad Well, now we will continue to discuss who will advance where. am
          3. 0
            10 February 2023 14: 36
            Quote: gsev
            then on the smart advice of Kadyrov

            A very valuable recommendation from a person who has been heading the Chechen Republic for 15 years already and during this period "achieved" that she is able to provide her budget with taxes as much as 13.6%.
        2. Alf
          +9
          8 February 2023 18: 31
          Quote: Mishka78
          Boris, stop smoking kiselyov. It liquefies your brain.

          He doesn't smoke kiseleva, he's at work...
        3. 0
          12 February 2023 11: 38
          was $49,48/bbl

          And besides, they began to supply oil through India to the United States. While the Kremlin is drawing lines with one hand, with the other hand it is helping to bring down inflation and drive down gas prices in the states.
      3. Alf
        +2
        8 February 2023 18: 30
        Quote: Boris55
        What deadlock are you talking about?

        Something you, Boris55, have not been seen or heard for a long time? The printing house broke down, the training manuals were not brought?
        Quote: Boris55
        From what puddle do you drink water and at whose mill do you pour it?

        But the words are the same...
        P.S. By the way, why did you change your avatar?
      4. +2
        9 February 2023 06: 27
        We are advancing on NWO

        I remember that there are more than 400 cities in Ukraine. How many months are we freeing towns known to everyone? And how fast are the Ukrainians running? If this successful offensive at this pace is approximated by 400 cities ... there will be banter ... until the end of the century.
        But
        The Western economy is degrading, the life of local citizens is deteriorating

        I also like to cheer myself up ... but the impressions after a recent visit, on business of a degrading company, are somehow disturbing ...
        1. +4
          9 February 2023 07: 07
          It seems to me that this is the US plan to watch how the RF Armed Forces get stuck in Ukraine for years. A kind of maxiAfghan.
      5. -2
        10 February 2023 00: 33
        I hope this is banter? Can't a person in their right mind carry such a thing?
    3. -11
      8 February 2023 08: 21
      In general, the commentary is not bad, but why lie? What is your conclusion about the desire to negotiate with Zelensky based on? Who announced this? What are the indirect signs that indicate to you the lack of desire to attack. By whom, when the decision was made to do nothing? Who from our government again hopes for an agreement?
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      2. +6
        8 February 2023 22: 00
        Quote: Just_Kvasha
        In general, the commentary is not bad, but why lie? What is your conclusion about the desire to negotiate with Zelensky based on?

        The tone of your message in principle does not imply discussion, but questions, excuse me for the truth, are at the level of Boris55's statements that the enemy is fleeing, but since you ask, I will answer you.
        The conclusion about the desire to negotiate with Zelensky is based on the official position of the Russian authorities, which they express almost every day. While the enemy refuses any truce and negotiations, or rather, sets the condition for negotiations to return the territory in 1991, pay reparations and extradite war criminals, the Russian authorities constantly say that they are ready for negotiations with the authorities of Maidan Ukraine at any time.
        For example, from the last one, on February 1, Count Matvienko (3 people in the hierarchy in the Russian Federation) stated ""Our position is clear, intelligible and transparent. We are ready for negotiations <...> without preconditions"
        Exactly the same thing is said by Count Putin, etc.
        Quote: Just_Kvasha
        What are the indirect signs that indicate to you the lack of desire to attack.

        Not the lack of desire to attack, but the lack of a decision to attack. There is a desire, because a year later the authorities have an understanding of the catastrophic situation. But it is difficult to decide given the previous sad experience.
        But here I can be wrong, war is a way of deception and perhaps there will still be a big offensive. Let's see, it's not long to wait, according to weather conditions, it should begin before the end of February, then the mudslide, but then the enemy will have too many trained people and high-quality weapons.
        1. -4
          9 February 2023 06: 21
          You cheat, daddy. Willingness to negotiate without (!) preconditions is not a desire. The desire must be on the part of the enemy, and any preconditions on his part are canceled by these same negotiations. As for the desire-decision to attack, you are probably right, it is set off.
    4. -12
      8 February 2023 08: 49
      Belisarius, it is necessary not to put minuses, but to answer questions, otherwise this is not a dialogue and discussion, but an agitation company.
      1. -4
        8 February 2023 19: 16
        It is easier for this propaganda company to demolish the towers again than to argue with them. This is a windmill
      2. +8
        8 February 2023 21: 43
        Quote: Just_Kvasha
        Belisarius, it is necessary not to put minuses, but to answer questions

        Stay tuned, dear, I didn’t put any minuses on you, especially at 8 in the morning when I didn’t see your message. If you think that I am the only person on the site who can put pluses or minuses, then you are mistaken.
    5. +10
      8 February 2023 11: 11
      Quote: Belisarius
      However, whether our authorities decide on this is an open question.

      Looks like no, they won't.
      Shoigu: the Russian military continues to "grind" Western weapons supplied by the Armed Forces of Ukraine

      Read more at RBC:
      https://www.rbc.ru/politics/07/02/2023/63e224c79a79472550a90ab1
      Grinding and grinding ... True, more with the tongue.
    6. -9
      8 February 2023 14: 18
      Quote: Belisarius
      The strategy of Maidan Ukraine is now simple as a drum and completely repeats its actions last summer. Substitute your second-rate units under our insane attack on the fortifications in the Donbass, prepare reserves and then strike at a weak spot. This is what they did last year, and although everyone knew everything perfectly, thanks to our amazing leadership, they succeeded. Now the same thing, only there will be much more weapons and people

      I disagree with you, everything that is happening now is more reminiscent of the Brusilovsky breakthrough or the offensive in a slightly modified form due to problems on the black soil in winter in the form of impassable mud. Ours are marching along the entire front line, they are pressing on a section of 1,5 thousand km, and the enemy is slowly rolling back, dispersing reserves to plug holes, the task, as I understand it, is not to allow the enemy to take the most combat-ready units far away for resupply and re-equipment.
      1. +5
        9 February 2023 14: 29
        The Brusilovsky breakthrough ended a month later with another positional impasse. Yes, we have advanced 100-120 km maximum. But the fact that during this offensive the Republic of Ingushetia lost its best parts and only the offensive on the western front did not allow Germany to transfer forces for a counterattack, they somehow forget. All attempts to develop success have led to nothing but losses.
        And yes, the Brussilov breakthrough was on a front section of 180 km. With a total front length of several thousand km.
    7. -3
      8 February 2023 18: 48
      Hmm ... you definitely don’t pull on that same Belisarius :)
    8. +8
      8 February 2023 20: 28
      "crazy zerg-rush in the Donbass with an epic battle for the ruins of Maryinka or Artemovsk, after taking which it suddenly turns out that there is no "space" behind them, but there are new similar towns and cities."
      totally agree with you. the only thing would be to slightly change your wording - after taking which suddenly suddenly it turns out that there is no "space" behind them
  4. +15
    8 February 2023 05: 35
    That's when there will be an offensive and results, then we'll talk
    1. -22
      8 February 2023 07: 49
      Quote: parusnik
      That's when there will be an offensive and results, then we'll talk

      Then get started, it's time. laughing
  5. -1
    8 February 2023 07: 10
    read Biryukov read Staver ... turbinist weeders ... no change in VO ... from empty to empty .. even I don’t even want to argue
    1. +3
      8 February 2023 17: 22
      read Biryukov read Staver ... weeders

      of those who grumble: "we didn't even reach Kyiv in 3 days"
  6. +3
    8 February 2023 07: 52
    It is not logical about the motives of the attitude of the Armed Forces of Ukraine towards the Russians. Ukro-propaganda called for the killing of all Russians "who have grown to the axis of the cart", even before the start of the NWO.

    I also saw hidden hatred in Soviet times, which I managed to catch. And now she is open, she was simply given free rein.
    We look at the monument of our literature "TALE OF TIME YEARS", the holy and righteous Kyiv monk Fr. NESTOR ..... And we see a comparison of POLYANS (ANESTORS OF UKRAINIANS) with the Drevlyans and others north of Kyiv. And the exact same hatred!
    1. old
      +9
      8 February 2023 08: 45
      she just let go.

      They didn’t just give free rein, but fed them and inflated them to the point where even children were already ready to slaughter Muscovites even tomorrow. So what - what, and the Anglo-Saxons are fluent in this.
    2. 0
      8 February 2023 20: 42
      Quote: ivan2022
      It is not logical about the motives of the attitude of the Armed Forces of Ukraine towards the Russians. Ukro-propaganda called for the killing of all Russians "who have grown to the axis of the cart", even before the start of the NWO.

      I also saw hidden hatred in Soviet times, which I managed to catch. And now she is open, she was simply given free rein.
      We look at the monument of our literature "TALE OF TIME YEARS", the holy and righteous Kyiv monk Fr. NESTOR ..... And we see a comparison of POLYANS (ANESTORS OF UKRAINIANS) with the Drevlyans and others north of Kyiv. And the exact same hatred!

      In the 74th, I served in Poltava for the first six months in a sergeant's training.
      Subsequently, he often traveled on business trips.
      I did not see any hidden hatred.
      Sometimes some indulgence slipped through, due to the fact that the standard of living in the Ukrainian SSR was higher than in the RSFSR.
      Further after the collapse of the USSR. this indulgence grew into a sense of superiority, and then, after the first and second Maidan, part of the population turned into hatred. Basically it concerns Galicia.
      The rest are required to show hatred. Otherwise, they can convey to the right place that you are not patriotic enough.
  7. +10
    8 February 2023 08: 11
    I have already written about how much the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine exceed ours. Artemovsk is a meat grinder. Other towns and cities too.
    Yes, you wrote about this that we are grinding the enemy’s manpower and equipment. And now that they've ground
    So will there be an offensive at least in some form? The answer is unequivocal. Will!
    And it will start thundering with fire, sparkling with the brilliance of steel, the "Armata" will go on a furious campaign. According to the classics, of course, with tank wedges, with girths and boilers.
    a huge nail in the coffin of the Kyiv authorities and Zelensky personally. The weak are not loved.
    1. -11
      8 February 2023 19: 25
      And why this circus with horses? The offensive is already on. It suits someone or not. Generally don't care.
      There are enemy settlements, there are statistics of enemy losses. Stop pissing us off here.
      Just think your company is not satisfied with the pace. And the tanks do not go in a column.
      And they wove everyone to the heap. They started because it was slow and not so, because the economy was in pieces and there was no money.
  8. +6
    8 February 2023 10: 20
    Yes, in general, in the assessments of the NWO, it was always pinning that the people basically treat it like a. Well, I don’t know ... Mass festivities. At 10 gathering, until two - sports and recreation activities, then a concert, and then - a disco!
    After all, it is clear to the hedgehog that the actions of the troops are determined by the operational situation. And no one, because of the screams of "let's break the bridges" - will throw aircraft at unsuppressed air defense.
    Mobilization in September - only now, by February, gave fighters combat-ready and already fired upon - at the front. Now we CAN attack - there are combat-ready troops, the battlefield has been cleared, we can hit in a number of directions - and the dill does not physically block everything. To prevent us from advancing - mattresses supply tanks and equipment in general for staffing 2-3 brigades in the state of the American "Stryker", and they, the brigades, are trained. The point is that the army drawn into the offensive, crawling away from airfields, supply bases and long-range air defense, should be met by equipped and trained brigades.
    Here, no one will say, except for the General Staff - whether we will attack or not - only the General Staff knows this. And the decision will not be made because of "Putinsleal" and "Abramovich was given two lards", but based on real assessments - won't really trained troops come to us from the depths?
    1. +5
      8 February 2023 18: 47
      . And no one, because of the screams of "let's break the bridges" - will throw aircraft at unsuppressed air defense.

      Are you sure? The Armed Forces of Ukraine have repeatedly thrown this way. Of course, Putin is not a drug clown, but we also have more squealing. And I'm more than sure that this squeal is being conducted from there.

      Try to analyze the comments with the word we will bomb right here on VO.
      It will turn out to bomb the bridges and bomb Kyiv again, and bomb everything a little.
      Why am I sure that this is orchestrated, yes, because I ask 2 questions in response

      1. How will the bombing of Kyiv help the NWO?
      2. What price are we willing to pay to destroy bridges?
      In response, silence and cons.

      Sometimes babble like let the deputies be happy to feel it in their own skin and to the repeated question, how will this help the NWO again silence.
      1. -4
        8 February 2023 20: 29
        Quote: bk316
        . And no one, because of the screams of "let's break the bridges" - will throw aircraft at unsuppressed air defense.

        Are you sure? The Armed Forces of Ukraine have repeatedly thrown this way. Of course, Putin is not a drug clown, but we also have more squealing. And I'm more than sure that this squeal is being conducted from there.

        Try to analyze the comments with the word we will bomb right here on VO.
        It will turn out to bomb the bridges and bomb Kyiv again, and bomb everything a little.
        Why am I sure that this is orchestrated, yes, because I ask 2 questions in response

        1. How will the bombing of Kyiv help the NWO?
        2. What price are we willing to pay to destroy bridges?
        In response, silence and cons.

        Sometimes babble like let the deputies be happy to feel it in their own skin and to the repeated question, how will this help the NWO again silence.

        You deserve the cons, at least for the question of how the SVO will help if we violate the logistics of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
        Don't be offended, but this is just a stupid question.
        Answers to it have long been given in the Second World War and in many other wars.
        Here on VO, too, a lot has been said about this. Study.
        1. -2
          9 February 2023 12: 24
          . And no one, because of the screams of "let's break the bridges" - will throw aircraft at unsuppressed air defense.

          Kindly explain how military logistics are destroyed by the BOMBING of Kyiv.
          Where is it written that Berlin was bombed to disrupt logistics?
          Maybe start thinking or reading more carefully before writing?

          And by the way, unlike you, I know the history of the Great Patriotic War, and you are even mistaken in the name (if we reduce it, then write VO). And I understand that the reasons for the bombing of Berlin at the beginning of the war, as well as the fact that there are no such reasons in the NWO.
          1. +1
            9 February 2023 14: 26
            Quote: bk316
            . And no one, because of the screams of "let's break the bridges" - will throw aircraft at unsuppressed air defense.

            Kindly explain how military logistics are destroyed by the BOMBING of Kyiv.
            Where is it written that Berlin was bombed to disrupt logistics?
            Maybe start thinking or reading more carefully before writing?

            And by the way, unlike you, I know the history of the Great Patriotic War, and you are even mistaken in the name (if we reduce it, then write VO). And I understand that the reasons for the bombing of Berlin at the beginning of the war, as well as the fact that there are no such reasons in the NWO.

            Do you even read what people write or on your own wave?
            Where did I say that the violation of logistics is the bombing of Kyiv?
            And then Ostap suffered, for some reason he dragged in the bombing of Berlin.
            My dear, it was about the destruction of bridges, railway junctions, depots, etc.
            You do not need to attribute your inventions to me.
            And if you don't know, Kyiv is the largest railway junction.
    2. -2
      8 February 2023 20: 32
      Quote from Bingo
      Yes, in general, in the assessments of the NWO, it was always pinning that the people basically treat it like a. Well, I don’t know ... Mass festivities. At 10 gathering, until two - sports and recreation activities, then a concert, and then - a disco!
      After all, it is clear to the hedgehog that the actions of the troops are determined by the operational situation. And no one, because of the screams of "let's break the bridges" - will throw aircraft at unsuppressed air defense.
      Mobilization in September - only now, by February, gave fighters combat-ready and already fired upon - at the front. Now we CAN attack - there are combat-ready troops, the battlefield has been cleared, we can hit in a number of directions - and the dill does not physically block everything. To prevent us from advancing - mattresses supply tanks and equipment in general for staffing 2-3 brigades in the state of the American "Stryker", and they, the brigades, are trained. The point is that the army drawn into the offensive, crawling away from airfields, supply bases and long-range air defense, should be met by equipped and trained brigades.
      Here, no one will say, except for the General Staff - whether we will attack or not - only the General Staff knows this. And the decision will not be made because of "Putinsleal" and "Abramovich was given two lards", but based on real assessments - won't really trained troops come to us from the depths?

      Determined by the situation and the availability of forces and means.
  9. +7
    8 February 2023 10: 51
    Quote: ivan2022
    We look at the monument of our literature "TALE OF TIME YEARS", the holy and righteous Kyiv monk Fr. NESTOR ..... And we see a comparison of POLYANS (ANESTORS OF UKRAINIANS) with the Drevlyans and others north of Kyiv. And the exact same hatred!

    And why look deep into the centuries? The Kremlin also had a hand in propagandizing and educating a wide Ukrainian. In any case, all that part of coming out historiography, which concerns the Soviet period, is entirely drawn from Russian magazines, such as Ogonyok. They began to talk about the "Holodomor" in Moscow earlier than in Kyiv ... It turns out that the Ukrainians are starting to vote about the ignorance of the Ukrainians by the damned Russian Bolsheviks, and from behind the Kremlin wall they are echoed: "Dadad, Stalin is worse than Hitler! Russian fascism is worse than German !. .. Only galoshes knew how to make! "...
    1. +11
      8 February 2023 11: 27
      and from behind the Kremlin wall they are echoed: "Dadad, Stalin is worse than Hitler! Russian fascism is worse than German!... Only galoshes were able to make!"...
      And the Russian "optism", itself stuffed with anti-Soviet propaganda, shrugs its shoulders and wonders how the Nazis turned out of them? And outraged..
  10. -6
    8 February 2023 11: 36
    The leitmotif of Belisarius's commentary - all is lost! And it does not explain anything, only slogans according to Le Bon. And it would not hurt to explain your statements, this is not a square or a rally.
    1. +13
      8 February 2023 12: 13
      According to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, we are waging a bloody war on our own territory.
      The number of killed and maimed Russians went into the tens of thousands. From the beginning of August, i.e. for 7 months now, the battle for Bakhmut has been going on.
      And behind it is Kramatorsk, twice as large. The fight hasn't started for him yet.
      Our settlements are being erased into dust, the population is becoming refugees.

      The special operation is developing according to the planned plan.
      Things are good.

      I say right away - I don’t propose to surrender, who is to blame, I’m not sure what to do, I don’t know, I’m not going to participate directly, then the fact that dill will die many times more than the Russians does not console me.
      1. -1
        8 February 2023 13: 27
        Quote from Gromit
        I do not know what to do

        And the eternal question: Who is to blame?
      2. -5
        8 February 2023 19: 36
        And if now we call the Kiev volost the territory of the Russian Federation, we will also hit rockets on our own?
        Are you bringing this up?
        Is it not from near Kramatorsk and Slavyansk now reinforcements are sent to Bakhmut and Seversk. Reinforcements are not being transferred from Zaporozhye to Ugledar. You yourself with a company write garbage here.
        What do you write about Bakhmut? They storm him for seven months? Who? What nonsense?
      3. -4
        8 February 2023 20: 40
        When we approach Kyiv, probably write that we have been there since February 24, 2022. storm. And it does not matter that the first groups will only enter the city blocks and begin the cleansing. The main thing is that the rest pick up about "stupid" generals and "corrupt" power.
        And behind them will be "fortified" Lviv and "powerful invincible" western Ukraine. And everything is wrong, and too slowly. And "the battle for him has not yet begun"
  11. +3
    8 February 2023 14: 24
    Lots of water and discussion.
    But words are just words.
    And things are recent discussions in the media, and how many Ukrainians have already been killed. From 120 thousand according to the calculations of the Jews, up to 500 thousand from the "experts".

    And all sorts of stories, like some kind of switchman / six / crazy wants to kill Russians ... so it’s worth reading the comments, a bunch of couch cometators, often under Anglo-Saxon nicknames, wants to kill Ukrainians every day and in a lot, but ... for some reason they don’t sign up as volunteers .. .
    1. +1
      8 February 2023 19: 43
      Things are a wrecked tank, a burnt corpse and a taken village. And the recent discussions in the media are not the case.
      And we are not doing business here, but palmistry. There is a workplace for business
  12. +5
    8 February 2023 16: 27
    There are events that must happen simply because there are no alternatives. On the event horizon, deliveries to Kyiv of hundreds of tanks, air defense and a certain number of aircraft are looming. Crews are already being trained for all this - tens of thousands. So the question of radical actions to stop this before the preparations turn into a real threat is not really a question, it's just a time frame.
    These frameworks go from today and probably until the end of this year. Because by the end of this year, probably, a significant part of what they promised to deliver to the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be delivered, a significant part of the operators for this will be trained, a significant part of Western industry will be mobilized to support the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and so on. That is, the picture is clearly worsening our situation if we "hold out" the situation until the end of the year without significant changes.

    However, the frames are approximate, but the question of a logical approach will not give an unambiguous answer, because a significant part of what happened earlier, which is called "was OVER logical" - the events developed contrary to the obvious directions for their speedy resolution. Direct paths were replaced by sophisticated ones, leading not to the goal but to dead ends and traps. I hope this is over..
    If you think purely logically - spring-summer. The scale is probably large-local. The goal is to put Ukraine in Shah and through this force it to negotiate. About any "denazification" and "demilitarization" has not been mentioned in public pr-ve for a long time.
    All this is just speculation, time will tell how it will be ..
    1. 0
      8 February 2023 20: 20
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      There are events that must happen simply because there are no alternatives. On the event horizon, deliveries to Kyiv of hundreds of tanks, air defense and a certain number of aircraft are looming. Crews are already being trained for all this - tens of thousands. So the question of radical actions to stop this before the preparations turn into a real threat is not really a question, it's just a time frame.
      These frameworks go from today and probably until the end of this year. Because by the end of this year, probably, a significant part of what they promised to deliver to the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be delivered, a significant part of the operators for this will be trained, a significant part of Western industry will be mobilized to support the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and so on. That is, the picture is clearly worsening our situation if we "hold out" the situation until the end of the year without significant changes.

      However, the frames are approximate, but the question of a logical approach will not give an unambiguous answer, because a significant part of what happened earlier, which is called "was OVER logical" - the events developed contrary to the obvious directions for their speedy resolution. Direct paths were replaced by sophisticated ones, leading not to the goal but to dead ends and traps. I hope this is over..
      If you think purely logically - spring-summer. The scale is probably large-local. The goal is to put Ukraine in Shah and through this force it to negotiate. About any "denazification" and "demilitarization" has not been mentioned in public pr-ve for a long time.
      All this is just speculation, time will tell how it will be ..

      Purely logically, in the 2024th presidential election in Russia.
      Don't go to a fortune teller Putin will be elected.
      He does not want to leave everything at such a turning point.
      And in order to confidently win the elections, you need to go to them on a winning wave.
      Let and local.
      So I agree with your assessment, the maximum is the end of summer. We don't have more time. Here several factors converged and what you wrote and what I said.
      1. +4
        8 February 2023 21: 24
        Quote: Ulan.1812
        Putin will be elected.

        the Dnrov direction is more for the image of such a suitcase without a handle. Kramatorsk is a minimum and the entire DPR is taken before the elections, and there you can announce a victory if everything goes badly in the economy ...
        it is much more important to keep the southern direction to supply the aircraft carrier
        but in general, I have a poor idea of ​​what Afghanistan will be like after the hot phase and what kind of army to keep there ... this is not even the middle of the series
      2. +10
        8 February 2023 22: 01
        Either the situation will develop in such a way that the powers of the head of state will be extended for a certain period of time just as cleverly as they carried out changes to the constitution, increasing the retirement age, etc.
        They will say "we are in the ring of enemies!" and "let's put aside pampering in this difficult hour!" - and all, cheers, cheers, bonnets in the air. And those who disagree are traitors and foreign agents.
        Could it be like this?
        It’s just that there’s some kind of thing here .. our public political field has fundamentally faded. Zhirinovsky died, the "chief communist" aged and completely faded, much smaller characters such as Mironov and Yavlinsky completely disappeared from public production. You can’t hear Prokhorov, and in general, our people now don’t really (as usual, probably, but now even more) love the tricks of various kinds of “majors” (like Sobchak) and oligarchs, with their constantly pop-up pretzels (a la recent " a generous sacrifice for the Armed Forces" by Abramovich) - that is, pulling another ace from the deck with these faces also suddenly "will not work."
        All somehow decisive characters have been sitting firmly in EdRe for a long time, de facto or de jure - everything is clear to everyone as it is.
        If in the same 2018 it was still possible to figure something out from old memory, now, as it’s warming up, new conditions, a new reality. And all our "ordinary" characters are stupidly overboard - they have not been heard on TV for a year, there is no or practically no protest activity.
        Various kinds of "new formations" such as "New People" for me personally are not much different from the creatures of Mr. Bogdanov (if you know such a creator of political disposable spoilers), and ... well, this is the maximum level of 2008, then it ceased to be funny or even Interesting.
        The looming picture hints to me that the expected elections will probably not happen. Everything more or less oppositional was nailed and marinated, there will be no one to be indignant. And our people, who always understand too much, will "understand" this time too.
        If the victory happens before 2024, then it can bring us a lot of surprises, the elections themselves can move and a "transit of power" can happen. But I am not Baba Vanga, all this is purely logic.
        In our country, events are often illogical or develop upon the arrival of "black swans", predicting both is already out of the realm of mysticism.
        IMHO GDP and his team have already shown everything they could show in 24 years. The current situation is a kind of swan song of their activities. Further "logically" comes a "fork" followed by either progress (and, at least, legal, elective change of power, at least a la "something like Medvedev"), or the Zimbabwe variant, with the immortal Robert Mugabe, endlessly leading Zimbabwe to success, despite the "dirty insinuations of damned foreigners" (c).
        The first option is logical, the second is illogical. Wait and see..
        1. 0
          12 February 2023 11: 58
          that is, pulling out another ace from the deck with these faces also suddenly "does not shoot."

          The Kremlin supported this deck. The "deck" is disgusting to the population, therefore it loses the elections and democracy is respected and the GDP is again in the chair.
      3. +1
        12 February 2023 11: 53
        Don't go to a fortuneteller Putin will be elected

        By the way, the GDP is completely satisfied with the situation, since it has a guaranteed presidency. It is possible that they will start after 24.
    2. -4
      8 February 2023 20: 59
      . The goal is to put Ukraine in Shah and through this force it to negotiate. About any "denazification" and "demilitarization" has not been mentioned in public pr-ve for a long time.

      Where did you get such information from? Lavrov whispered in your ear? Strange. And they officially confirmed their position. The objectives of the operation have not changed, but may be supplemented due to new circumstances.
      I just don't know who to believe. You or the one who makes these statements and decides at least something.
    3. 0
      9 February 2023 01: 38
      The war and the actions of state troops are "not homework in a garage / garden" .. Never in a war, they did not wait for "my turn to approach" .. and counting kopecks, walking from the cash register. The main thing is the oppression of the existing world order, so that it BECOMES A NEW REALITY, you did not record the broadcasts ... '91, '93.. '95-96? this is "orig" .. this is the essence. Yeltsin was president .. Now at 02-03.2022. the feeling of a return to the State Planning Commission / Gosbank / .. the default of democracy was more heartfelt than ever. But we remember that PolitByro itself "surrendered" the USSR. Therefore, 01-2023. ostentatiously, a regular "BANK.point" was created. Why other comm.banks do not display the situation so brightly. Nobody believes in the "long life of the USSR2.0". Summer '21 former presenter Tatyana Kirillovna from "ABVGD" publicly on "Children's Radio" promised the children a new section in the region of 2050xx .. after the mournful stories .. of the children of "GAZPROM" who were forced to wander on Premium helicopters over the bones of a mammoth where in .. an oil-bearing region. ./// where is TRUE. and not in a garbage dump like ..dacha neighborhoods of LUGANSK.
  13. +7
    8 February 2023 16: 31
    You ask yourself the question: "Why does Russia have everything to complete the NWO in the shortest possible time, is it at war with Ukraine on an equal footing, which has nothing?" When you answer this question, then you will not ask stupid questions: "Why is Russia not advancing?"
    Not for this, Putin started the NWO in order to complete it as soon as possible. And there are "sea" options here, as this NWO went on forever.
  14. +2
    8 February 2023 18: 06
    Any offensive by our army is a huge nail in the coffin of the Kyiv authorities and Zelensky personally. The weak are not loved. The weak are killed by their former friends. Maybe that's why the Americans are organizing a general audit of Ukrainian spending today. They clean up after themselves. So it's just getting started...
    Surprising for today self-confidence. Oh, well, yes, we haven't "started" yet... winked
    ps In reality, there is an attempt to "push through" the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in order to prevent their rearmament and reorganization for the offensive.
  15. -5
    8 February 2023 19: 33
    The main tasks of the United States have been completed. Europe was crushed under itself. Relations between the EU and Russia have been destroyed. Moscow was slightly weakened.

    Fucked up this myth. Europe traditionally fights for the lands of the Slavs. The mayor of Kyiv is a German citizen and this is not an accident. The US is only pretending to be in charge of this mess. Europe is really at war with us. They do not want to buy our hydrocarbons. They want to take them at the cost of production. Under Hitler, there were also a bunch of Germans who fought for the USSR: there are a lot of people in Europe and everyone has different opinions ... many consider themselves Caesars and Napoleons.
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  17. +7
    8 February 2023 20: 10
    There will be no access to the strategic space.
    Take Artyomovsk and Ugledar, this is almost a fait accompli.
    And then what?
    And then we will run into the next line of defense and the fortified area.
    Slavyansk-Kramatorsk.
    And again we will "gnaw through" and "disassemble".
    And how many? A month, two or three?
    And during this time they will build another one, two or three lines.
    And again we will "gnaw through"? How many people will we put in?
    It is absolutely obvious that there are not enough available forces and means to carry out strategic operations.
    We cannot even fully provide for the mobilized.
    We collect all over the country.
    And the technique? You can't make it that fast. I have already said that, for good, in order to achieve all the goals set, we need a group under a million, with the appropriate equipment and support.
    But it seems that we cannot provide everything necessary for an additional call.
    It rests against this, what is extra. the call is not carried out, and not because the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff do not want to.
    Well, with these forces, only those operations that we are conducting today are possible. That is, local.
    And that means we will not see either Odessa, or Kharkov, or Zaporozhye.
    Well, if we return Kherson.
    I would love to be wrong, but so far what I see is exactly what it looks like.
    And now the question is, who brought it to this that we have been wallowing with Ukraine for a year and giving the enemies a reason to think that we can be defeated.
    1. -3
      8 February 2023 22: 14
      As we advance, the front will narrow. Comparing our losses and ours, the density on the line of contact will not change for the better for us. Considering our reserve and exhausting the enemy, it will be easier further. But that doesn't mean faster. Tactics are likely to continue
      1. +5
        9 February 2023 05: 15
        The problem is that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are saturated with advanced Western weapons, while in our country they can’t give birth to at least a normal connection for the army, and wars have not been won with simple meat for a long time. The deliveries of long-range weapons, tanks, etc. will soon begin, and over time, the ratio of losses will lean not in our direction.
  18. +1
    8 February 2023 20: 11
    "Recently I saw a video in which ours hit an infantry fighting vehicle in motion with a 152-mm caliber. If I hadn't seen it, I wouldn't have believed it."
    But how did they shoot, from closed positions, or direct fire? if from closed ones - an accidental hit, if direct fire - the usual work of gunners, for which artillery was created, and not a miracle at all
    "Not only did they hold back the attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for a week, but they also went on the offensive. Those very mobs kicked the ass of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the fullest."
    where did this epic battle take place? not on the northern outskirts of marinka?
    "Theoretically, any more or less success of the Russian army can be called an offensive."
    that's what they call it, any, more or less success
  19. -7
    8 February 2023 21: 28
    Topwar after the start of its turned into a society of anonymous whiners. Chapaya give them ahead on a dashing horse.
    1. -6
      8 February 2023 22: 18
      A lot of leftist accounts have appeared since the site was hacked. Whiners with enviable regularity disappear after striking communications in large cities of Ukraine. Hardly a coincidence No.
      1. -1
        8 February 2023 23: 21
        Yes, VO has changed a lot in a year. there wasn’t even a competition for the best commentators ... and from last year’s dozens, a couple of accounts remained ... at the beginning of the war, weeders were well thinned out
    2. -4
      9 February 2023 01: 50
      Recently there was such a micro-video "Wagner" and, "says .. Your stripes .. zero", "a war like WWII." grammatically. * \ By the way, in fact, if everyone is called, but even crawling to the line, this is a whole tragedy for everyone .. not to mention 27kg. "Standard equipment" 12 armor and 15kg of ammunition. Who is ready to dig in the field "for the night" .. but until the morning, then again "into the breakthrough" ... just don't talk about the ability to dig / carry snow carefully. There is a frozen ..er "soil, snags, there in two hours .. the pulse will disappear .. and the throat after such an overnight stay will burn like a TORCH ..:? Until there is a new Mobilization, everyone is "nightmare themselves" and sit upright, looking around .. IN /MO is a way to "breathe evenly".
    3. 0
      9 February 2023 05: 08
      NATO has an advantage in conventional weapons, and therefore it is not clear how to win in our own ...
  20. 0
    8 February 2023 21: 30
    In general, it is necessary to go to Kyiv already, so that the whole elite runs away, then there will be anarchy in the country. And when there is no power in the country, then the war will end
    1. +1
      8 February 2023 22: 19
      When there is no power in the country, this is anarchy and civil war
  21. -1
    8 February 2023 21: 43
    We will not be beautiful columns.

    Because white people have always given the Indians just enough weapons so that they do not beautifully wet each other as much as possible and for as long as possible.
    The technology has been developed solidly, hundreds of years.....
    1. -2
      8 February 2023 22: 24
      Well, yes. Beautiful columns are more beautiful. The Indians run out as quickly as possible. I hope you don’t offer us to move in columns
  22. +5
    8 February 2023 22: 08
    A massive offensive in one place, like the Second World War, in the current state of affairs, is hardly worth waiting for. Because this is a concentration of huge masses of people and equipment, which will immediately be recorded by "not participating in the conflict." With coordinates. And then long-range high-precision systems from the same "not participating" - and our huge losses even before the battle.
    And the situation will change, and tactics will probably change.
  23. +6
    8 February 2023 22: 14
    [quoteSo will we advance with beautiful columns] [/ quote]
    It may well be that we will. Because practically the same people who developed, organized and carried out this SVO remained in command. It was they who sent our troops in beautiful columns to Kyiv, Kharkov, Chernihiv and Sumy, without cover, proper support and intelligence. And then, when it ended with "signs of goodwill" and a complete "regrouping", they slept through the counteroffensive near Kharkov, shamefully giving the Nazis raisins, balakleya, estuary, and then Kherson. They showed their complete helplessness, they could not oppose the enemy, prevent and fend off the blow, which the enemy had been preparing for a long time, concentrating his troops in this direction and which only the lazy did not talk about. That these people, somehow, could change dramatically and dramatically, they suddenly came to the realization, competence, gift and art of commanders. There are certainly miracles in the world, but it seems this is not the case. And if we want to change the course of events and win, then it is necessary, before the "crossing" begins, to change the useless "horses" in front of it. Otherwise, we can again see the same "rake", i.e. "beautiful columns"
  24. -14
    9 February 2023 00: 12
    It's disgusting to read... Alarmists and all-prossers... Let's attack!!! Let's beat the enemy! Let's stand!!! Without people like you!!! Sofa experts .... We are learning to fight !!! This is a different war. High tech. We need communications, surveillance, intelligence. Yes, this is difficult now in the army. Yes, we loot dill backpacks, dugouts, trenches, dugouts. A good walkie-talkie, shoes, medicine, pouches are all a canopy of gold !!! Well, no big deal! And we will survive it, and returned home with a victory to spit in the family of such sissies, telling here that they would surround Ugledar and take it in touch !!! Oh well...
    1. +3
      9 February 2023 04: 26
      It is said in Scripture: "Your enemies are your household." Only "super-vitek" considers the wrong ones in Russia to be enemies ......
    2. +5
      9 February 2023 13: 38
      . "We are learning to fight!!! This is a different war. High-tech. We need communications, surveillance, intelligence. Yes, this is difficult now in the troops"
      exactly the same was the domestic war, high-tech, the war of motors. communications, intelligence, etc. were also needed. but they were able to give everything to the troops in a short time, train and and successfully use. where did all this go now, if the red army in 1945, and the Soviet army in 1980 had it? and now this is not in the troops, where did they go? broke, drank or do not know how to use? you only know how to take selfies on smartphones, but to point enemy missiles at your barracks? super-vitki, shame, warriors. you need to learn how to fight, apply the technique, and not abandon it in retreats, half a year, if not more, from the last drape from Kherson, troops are marking time, strenuously imitating vigorous activity, a step forward, a step back, three steps to the side, that's all strategy. how many millimeters did the troops advance in the direction of the marinka? did you take the coal? what kind of micro-farms like saltar occupy for months, what is this, an army? further - only unprintable
    3. +4
      10 February 2023 00: 14
      Here is a clear result of the twenty-year reign of the Radiant: a brainless jingo-patriot super-vitek. And there are millions of them in the country ..
      1. +2
        10 February 2023 19: 47
        Maybe so, or maybe "just" a person at work! winked
  25. +3
    9 February 2023 03: 54
    A small remark: the other day, the governor of Primorye Kozhemyako announced at the shipbuilding college of Vladivostok that there would be no more recruitment and graduation in specialized specialties. The college is re-profiled into the service market (IT, maids, etc.). And this is Vladivostok for a moment, the capital of shipbuilding and ship repair of the entire Far East. Plus, a bunch of factories only in Primorye for defense in dire need of middle-level workers. Is this how you ask? Is it according to the state? As for me, the adoption of such decisions is direct sabotage, betrayal and work in the interests of the enemy, the term and the corresponding article. Instead of expanding and increasing the recruitment of guys for specialized special forces, we will train maids. I have no words .. am
  26. +3
    9 February 2023 06: 43
    Hooray, patriotism is just rushing out of the article, of course I would like the author not to be mistaken, but it's hard to believe
  27. +1
    9 February 2023 06: 45
    Quote from ivan1979nkl
    Do you think Bakhmut is a forester's hut, and Seversk is a barn next to it? There Avdeevka, Marinka, Sands and Ugledar ..

    Wash Ugledar town with a population of 16000? My city where I was born in Kuzbass has about 100.000 people and it’s really a village, but imagine when we get to at least one regional city with 1 million people or at least 500 tons, how will we take it? Or even cover it, given that Bakhmut and Ugledar, what would take in pincers spend months.
    1. +5
      9 February 2023 07: 23
      Dw is correct. To be honest, I can’t imagine how at the moment, under the current conditions, our leadership is going to take million-plus cities like Kharkov, Odessa, Poltava, etc. Increasingly, I think that no one is going to take them at all. God forbid to reach the borders of new areas and dig in. Then, probably, negotiations will begin
    2. 0
      9 February 2023 13: 44
      "Carbon to take in pincers we spend months."
      the area of ​​​​ugledar is 1,4 sq. km, how can you take it in pincers?
    3. +7
      9 February 2023 14: 50
      You do not.
      Ugledar is even difficult to call a city 1,5x2 km and a hundred houses. Many villages are many times larger. But we have been encircling it for the second week. And judging by the silence from the Russian Defense Ministry, everything is bad there. Particularly pleasing are the justifications in the style of fortifications and elevations there. Yeah Donbass ridge. Spur of the Rostov ridge. Psaki was right. And everyone was yelling at her. And the Maginot line to boot. It seems that the Armed Forces of Ukraine knew already 8 years ago that we would reach Ugledar.
      Given our achievements, the same Kharkov, we will besieging Troy longer than the Greeks. And we will reach Poltava exactly on the 100th anniversary of the beginning of the NWO.
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  28. 0
    9 February 2023 06: 50
    Most likely everything will end with the status quo. A democratic line along the Dnieper River, either with the complete annexation of the entire East of Ukraine, or the creation of a buffer East Ukrainian republic.
  29. +4
    9 February 2023 07: 01
    Quote: igorbrsv
    As we advance, the front will narrow. Comparing our losses and ours, the density on the line of contact will not change for the better for us. Considering our reserve and exhausting the enemy, it will be easier further. But that doesn't mean faster. Tactics are likely to continue

    And what kind of reserve do we have? We only have enough reserve to do the rotation of those who fought on the front and went to the rear to rest. Or is the enemy not destroying our rear, they don’t die on the front line and there are no three hundredth? age over thirty and over forty, with an exacerbation of diseases and they are not commissioned? Although we still believed and still believe that there is a meat grinder in Bakhmut and the dill is twisted there, and the fact that thousands of us die during the assault is a fantasy for them that cannot be believed.
  30. +2
    9 February 2023 09: 56
    Quote: insafufa
    Ours are marching along the entire front line, they are pressing on a section of 1,5 thousand km, and the enemy is slowly rolling back, dispersing reserves to plug holes, the task, as I understand it, is not to allow the enemy to take the most combat-ready units far away for resupply and re-equipment.

    Don't you think that an offensive on a 1.5 km front (actually less) disperses the forces of the attackers more, and does not allow them to gather a grouping for a strong strike?
  31. +2
    9 February 2023 09: 58
    Quote: U. Cheny
    Because this is a concentration of huge masses of people and equipment, which will immediately be recorded by "not participating in the conflict."

    Well, the Ukrainian offensive was somehow overslept.
  32. 0
    9 February 2023 10: 55
    Quote: Just_Kvasha
    Willingness to negotiate without (!) preconditions is not a desire.

    Yeah. We are ready to negotiate, but there is no desire. They will talk, but without desire and pleasure ... :)))
  33. +3
    9 February 2023 10: 58
    There will be no offensives with beautiful columns. For this to happen, it is necessary to carry out a large-scale mobilization of both industry and the population. During the Great Patriotic War, 2,5 million Red Army personnel were involved in the operation to liberate Donbass. Now there are 350 thousand at the front and 150 in reserve at the training grounds.
  34. -1
    9 February 2023 11: 03
    very well written, indeed, no one likes the weak
  35. +1
    9 February 2023 16: 17
    Quote: Ulan.1812
    Quote: Knell Wardenheart
    There are events that must happen simply because there are no alternatives. On the event horizon, deliveries to Kyiv of hundreds of tanks, air defense and a certain number of aircraft are looming. Crews are already being trained for all this - tens of thousands. So the question of radical actions to stop this before the preparations turn into a real threat is not really a question, it's just a time frame.
    These frameworks go from today and probably until the end of this year. Because by the end of this year, probably, a significant part of what they promised to deliver to the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be delivered, a significant part of the operators for this will be trained, a significant part of Western industry will be mobilized to support the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and so on. That is, the picture is clearly worsening our situation if we "hold out" the situation until the end of the year without significant changes.

    However, the frames are approximate, but the question of a logical approach will not give an unambiguous answer, because a significant part of what happened earlier, which is called "was OVER logical" - the events developed contrary to the obvious directions for their speedy resolution. Direct paths were replaced by sophisticated ones, leading not to the goal but to dead ends and traps. I hope this is over..
    If you think purely logically - spring-summer. The scale is probably large-local. The goal is to put Ukraine in Shah and through this force it to negotiate. About any "denazification" and "demilitarization" has not been mentioned in public pr-ve for a long time.
    All this is just speculation, time will tell how it will be ..

    Purely logically, in the 2024th presidential election in Russia.
    Don't go to a fortune teller Putin will be elected.
    He does not want to leave everything at such a turning point.
    And in order to confidently win the elections, you need to go to them on a winning wave.
    Let and local.
    So I agree with your assessment, the maximum is the end of summer. We don't have more time. Here several factors converged and what you wrote and what I said.


    ......- don't go to a fortuneteller - Putin will just stay.... Why should he be elected?...
  36. -1
    9 February 2023 16: 29
    Quote: Ulan.1812
    There will be no access to the strategic space.
    Take Artyomovsk and Ugledar, this is almost a fait accompli.
    And then what?
    And then we will run into the next line of defense and the fortified area.
    Slavyansk-Kramatorsk.
    And again we will "gnaw through" and "disassemble".
    And how many? A month, two or three?
    And during this time they will build another one, two or three lines.
    And again we will "gnaw through"? How many people will we put in?
    It is absolutely obvious that there are not enough available forces and means to carry out strategic operations.
    We cannot even fully provide for the mobilized.
    We collect all over the country.
    And the technique? You can't make it that fast. I have already said that, for good, in order to achieve all the goals set, we need a group under a million, with the appropriate equipment and support.
    But it seems that we cannot provide everything necessary for an additional call.
    It rests against this, what is extra. the call is not carried out, and not because the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff do not want to.
    Well, with these forces, only those operations that we are conducting today are possible. That is, local.
    And that means we will not see either Odessa, or Kharkov, or Zaporozhye.
    Well, if we return Kherson.
    I would love to be wrong, but so far what I see is exactly what it looks like.
    And now the question is, who brought it to this that we have been wallowing with Ukraine for a year and giving the enemies a reason to think that we can be defeated.


    - The question is different - What to do ...?
  37. +1
    9 February 2023 18: 18
    We won't attack. Well, our guarantor does not want to attack anywhere. He dreams of Minsk 3. And we don't need nuclear weapons. Still, there is no political will to apply it. My knees are trembling, my hands are sweating. One dream is how to merge better, but not to offend my friends, the oligarchs. I do not believe that our king is capable of a decisive act, the gut is thin.
    1. +3
      10 February 2023 00: 05
      I completely agree. He is the same puppet as Ze, only in more powerful hands.
  38. -1
    9 February 2023 22: 18
    Quote: Knell Wardenheart



    - It's just Your Truth, with arguments... On the other side is the supporting plankton, which does not need the Truth in any form, and instead of arguments - only food...

    - Presidential elections could be held in two stages: - first Elections and Appointment of the Spiritual Leader. Then the presidential elections. The presence of a Spiritual Leader would not allow a smart guy like Macron to jump into the presidential chair without a queue .....
  39. +1
    9 February 2023 22: 56
    "Kocham" propagandę. In the beginning, the Russians take the Outback, then the Ukrainians recapture the Outback, but only a bomb crater remains from the Outback ... then the Russians recapture the Outback, that is, two bomb craters.,
    ... casualties?
    500 killed and 1000 wounded. Russians or Ukrainians? It depends if you read a Polish or Russian newspaper...
  40. +5
    10 February 2023 00: 03
    A verbiage article justifying the complete lack of tactics and strategy in the actions of the General Staff. The recently celebrated Stalingrad operation lasted, you won’t believe it, six (6) months! Koenigsberg was taken faster than Bakhmut, which had not yet been taken! Is this offensive or not?
    1. -2
      10 February 2023 06: 11
      About the capture of large cities during the Second World War, of course, you gave cool examples. And the fact that during the Battle of Stalingrad 3 times more Red Army soldiers died than are now mobilized at the front, how is it? Do you care how many of our people die?
  41. -1
    10 February 2023 03: 36
    - for dessert - the author forgot to add "chitchat" foreign media - "Putin promised not to kill Zelensky." This means that the voyage of greens through the geyropes, one might say, is the final one.
  42. -6
    10 February 2023 06: 08
    Well, judging by the comments and minuses, this is no longer a Russian resource. Enemies have settled here thoroughly.
  43. +1
    10 February 2023 12: 13
    straight article - a prediction. how they wrote - the military and fulfilled it - let's go to fight in columns. - request - if we have military officers like executive ones - then you can think smarter - well, at least write a thread from the sergeant's textbook - maybe it will be a good idea
  44. -2
    10 February 2023 12: 19
    When excited readers volunteer to go to the NWO, we will certainly be.
  45. +2
    10 February 2023 15: 53
    Quote: 47 Reader
    Well, judging by the comments and minuses, this is no longer a Russian resource. Enemies have settled here thoroughly.

    Well, yes, whoever doesn’t lick MU-mu’s ass is definitely an enemy. But nothing that again the column under Ugledar was gouged? Eh, jerk?
  46. -3
    10 February 2023 19: 44
    You are deeply mistaken! If the RF Armed Forces advance, they will advance and fight against the Nazis, as the Israelis did in June 1967 against the Arabs. And to be clear - read the book Randolph and Winston Churchill [b][/b]"The Six-Day War. June 1967", Moscow, Bridges of Culture, 2019.
  47. 0
    11 February 2023 23: 04
    The offensive looks different. This is not the Second World War to cut through the defense with tank wedges. There are no wedges, no opportunity, the number of ground forces is not enough. A deep penetration operation requires at least 1,5 million personnel. We look at the experience of the Second World War. Question 2, surprise, with modern means of intelligence, this is more of an art. This means that it is impossible to act with large forces. A variant of action is possible that excludes the concentration of troops and depots in the artillery strike zone. This is what we are seeing now. It is worth assembling a strike group more than x units of equipment and units of personnel, how artillery works on it. This means that the groups must be such that they are not found. Because an artillery strike from that side leads to a counterattack from ours and the loss of artillery. Under such conditions, it is possible to operate in small groups or in areas where there are shelters from reconnaissance and destruction.
    Such a tactic. The capture of Artemovsk will allow to surround and break through the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine around Kramatorsk, cut the grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in two, into three and grind it in parts. This will take weeks. The Armed Forces of Ukraine have time to prepare some reserves and throw them forward. The worse the preparation of reserves, the faster the advance.
    Such is chess.
    Whoever is better prepared moves forward faster.
  48. 0
    14 February 2023 12: 52
    our Army is like a mountain gave birth to a mouse, that's the whole offensive, and the reasons are in the leadership
  49. 0
    17 February 2023 20: 43
    How to attack? From time immemorial, columns have advanced along the roads ...

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