The German authorities asked Sweden to supply Ukraine with IRIS-T air defense system launchers

The German government has asked Sweden to transfer launchers of IRIS-T air defense systems, which are supposed to strengthen the air defense of Ukraine. Earlier, the German authorities have already sent one IRIS-T system to Kyiv and plan to send three more similar installations.

According to the German magazine Der Spiegel, no positive response has yet been received from the Swedish authorities on this issue. The head of the Swedish Ministry of Defense stressed that the discussion of supplies weapons Ukrainian army should be considered taking into account the factor of geographical proximity between Russia and Sweden, as well as the fact that the latter has not yet joined the NATO military bloc.

It is also reported that the ongoing negotiations are confidential. Their goal is Berlin's desire to supply the Ukrainian army with a significant amount of ammunition for IRIS-T air defense systems.

It is noted that during 2023, Berlin plans to transfer three more IRIS-T installations to Kyiv in addition to the air defense system of this type already transferred in October last year.

In addition, the authorities of Italy and France are going to provide Ukraine with the Samp / T air defense system. According to Italian Foreign Minister Antonio Tajani, the new system could be deployed in Ukraine within seven to eight weeks.

It is reported that the cost of the Samp / T battery with Aster-30 anti-aircraft missiles to it is about 800 million euros.

Comments

[voice of reason]

From these "toffees" no one is hot or cold. They cannot shoot down geranium mopeds or calibers. So far, only transformers have been able to do this well.

[Nexcom]

electrical substations also "catch" mopeds-geraniums.

[Orange Bigg]

By the way. The Ministry of Defense for the first time announced the destruction of the Norwegian anti-aircraft missile system NASAMS.

.MOSCOW, February 3 - RIA Novosti. The Russian military destroyed a NASAMS anti-aircraft missile system in the DPR, the Defense Ministry said.
"In the area of ​​Krasnoarmeysk, Donetsk People's Republic, a Tochka-U tactical missile launcher and a NASAMS anti-aircraft missile system manufactured by Norway were destroyed," the ministry said.

https://ria.ru/20230203/dnr-1849539973.html

[Mikhail Maslov]

Oops, this is already interesting. If the information is correct, then this is very good.

[bayard]

Quote from Orange Bigg

"In the area of ​​Krasnoarmeysk, Donetsk People's Republic, a Tochka-U tactical missile launcher and a NASAMS anti-aircraft missile system manufactured by Norway were destroyed," the ministry said.

And this is very good news, I wonder why, because you still have to reach Krasnoarmeysk.

[Constantine N]

it is unlikely that such modern systems would just be delivered ... when there are quite a lot of them, plus petriots against tactical missiles, there will be something else against drones ... long-range missiles will appear and start hitting Russia, but how to answer if the sky closed? Although most likely they will be used in certain areas, such as Artemovsk, in order to tie up aviation.

[Vyacheslav57]

Quote: voice of reason

From these "toffees" no one is hot or cold. They cannot shoot down geranium mopeds or calibers.

In vain you are so unfounded. "The German IRIS-T SLM air defense system shot down the first unknown air target in the sky over Kyiv. Considering that the attacks were carried out on Kyiv using both kamikaze drones and cruise missiles, we are talking about one of these targets."
Remarkably, until now it was believed that the German air defense systems that arrived in Ukraine were located in the Odessa region, however, it is obvious that the Ukrainian military deliberately introduced disinformation in order to prevent the detection of these complexes.

[svp67]

Quote: Vyacheslav57

, obviously, the Ukrainian military deliberately introduced disinformation in order to prevent the detection of these complexes

And our specialists, so "sip bast shoes" and their RER means are not able to distinguish the operation of the Iris radar from the radar of Soviet systems still in service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine ...
Or how do you imagine it?

[Mikhail Maslov]

Are you so sure? Do you know objective information? A modern air defense system, even one, is already a threat to be reckoned with.

[ivan1979nkl]

the authorities of Italy and France are going to provide Ukraine with the Samp / T air defense system

h0hlaintsy not get confused in these systems? It's not from a quadruple maxim to shoot Geraniums

[Nexcom]

High truncated confuse, damned Svidomites ...

[1razvgod]

But it may turn out that the army lesson will be universal in terms of experience in using various NATO weapons systems ....

[75 Sergey]

How Liver Sausage worries about the Nazis, buys ustanoaki - you can’t argue against blood.

[Nexcom]

from, etit, svidomites-tspsoshniki minus everyone angrily ... whores are minuscule.

[1erWahrheitsMinister_1984]

Na, wer zweifelt jetzt noch daran, wie hoch notig es ist,
this PACK endlich mal die Wirkung einer atomaren
Explosion auf sehr eindrucksvolle Weise "nahe" zu bringen...!!?

Ramstein, Warschau, Paris and London sind in der zukünftigen
Weltordnung überflüssig und sollten für eine erste "Kostprobe"
atomarer Abschreckung ausradiert werden, damit der Westen
und vor allem die USA endlich kapieren, was die Glocke
geschlagen hat...!!
Ich denke der Rest der sogenannten, westlichen Werte-Gemeinschaft
wird es sich zwei bis drei mal überlegen, hierauf ebenfalls mit einem
atomaren Schlag zu antworten; insbesondere die grossmäuligen
Hosenscheißer aus den sogenannten USA...!!! Schluss JETZT!!

[PavelT]

I didn’t understand anything, but I furiously plus, comrade!

[Luka Nord]

The German authorities asked Sweden

The granddaughter of the grandfather of the SS Scholz, went into a dressing .. He will now collect weapons from all over the world, if only to stop the Russians .. He feels what will happen to him in the event of an inevitable Victory on the outskirts and in world politics ..
Let him stop paying the indemnity to Israel and send them to the outskirts hehe hehe And the Russian Germans are silent in Germany and this is a shame, because in which case they will be the first to be mobilized. not Arabs

[1razvgod]

For the most part, that the Germans that the German Rusaks don’t care about all these hostilities, for them it’s like a war of the Papuans from the east. Few people there understand what all this can bring ....

[Luka Nord]

Quote from: 1razvgod

For the most part, that the Germans that the German Rusaks don’t care about all these hostilities, for them it’s like a war of the Papuans from the east. Few people there understand what all this can bring ....

They think so in vain .. No matter how it comes to soup again, here we feed the Papuans, although they would need to shoot cannibals

Eh, Russia is a kind soul .. Again, we won’t stand up for the price?
How tired of all this. But you have to fight.! We are again forced to break the ridges of the exceptional

Victory will be for us anyway, if we sing such songs
And now we know where the main Nazi hornet's nest is in the world
The main thing is not to whine and complain, and the rest will follow

[opuonmed]

they are preparing to repel raids, that's all! and the Russian Federation misses time when it is necessary to bomb and level everything in Ukraine with the ground!

[PavelT]

This funny begging for air defense systems by the supplier country from the buyer country in the case of Sweden is doubly difficult.

1. Since the 1970s, the Swedes have been heavily intimidated by their media and politicians (with the help of the military and experts) that the hour of the USSR / Russia will attack Sweden is not even. The majority of the people were simply doomed to believe this, because such brainwashing has been going on for a long time, constantly, and it is going on seriously. Living there and reading the local media, you get a strange strong impression that Sweden is right on the border with Russia and Russia has nowhere else to attack except Sweden. There are simply no other tempting targets either in Europe or in the world! And now the Germans are asking these same Swedes to give back these missiles and launchers, which the Swedes have ALREADY bought for their hard-earned money, in order to protect themselves from terrible Russia. And how can the Swedes give up this protection and remain defenseless before Russia?? Which, if not tomorrow, then the day after tomorrow, will definitely attack!

2. In parallel with this injection in Sweden since the 1990s, there has been a reverse ideological trend: the ruling left-liberal parties (social democrats, "greens", former communists, now leftists, liberals and centrists) pump the population with the Swedish state ideology: total humanism. They tell children from kindergarten that all conflicts must be resolved peacefully, that violence is unjust, that violence is impossible in the world and soon there will be no wars, everyone will be humane, armies are not needed, weapons are bad, borders are not needed, all migrants and refugees are cute and sweet , if they messed up something in Sweden, then "they are children" (even if with a beard!) ... In the Swedish version of history, genocides, wars and other bad things gradually disappear - history becomes politically correct.
As a result, in the country there are seams with weapons, no one really goes to the army, which has been hired since 2010 (the salary is small and it’s shameful to be a soldier / officer - this is against humanism!). As a result, an army with a ridiculous size of about 28 thousand people again had to be drafted from 2017 (details here: https://topwar.ru/187368-srochniki-i-kontraktniki-osobennosti-sistemy-komplektovanija-vooruzhennyh-sil-shvecii.html). Well, with air defense systems it is still tight. There are almost none of them, even if you take the old American HAWK. When the Swedes “suddenly” discovered that their island of Gotland in the Baltic Sea had nothing to protect against landing ships, the army had to sharply put into service the old Kustrobotbatteri coastal installations of 90 Saab Robotsystem 15 (RBS-15) anti-ship missiles - these installations were urgently REMOVED FROM THE MUSEUM! There has never been anything like this in the world! Here are the details: https://cont.ws/@zorro/439362
And now, if they give their new German air defense missiles to the IRIS-T air defense system, then they themselves will remain with the old American HAWKs, which are not yet in the museum, but at the same time much OLDER than the Swedish anti-ship RBS-15 (and it’s not at all a fact that they are still combat-ready ).