Readers of a German newspaper compared the transfer of Leopard 1 tanks to Ukraine with "easy disposal"

The fact that NATO countries use Ukraine as a testing ground for the disposal of obsolete weapons and military equipment is not hidden even by Kyiv's allies themselves.

Earlier, the Eastern European states of the former socialist camp almost completely got rid of the Soviet military legacy. Then other members of the North Atlantic Alliance followed their example, wisely deciding that to destroy unnecessary weapon naturally on the battlefield is cheaper than storing or disposing of it on your own territory.

Germany does not remain aloof from this trend. After the decision was made to send a small number of modern Leopard 2 MBTs to Ukraine, the German government quickly approved the initiative of the German company Rheinmetall to restore and transfer to Kyiv as many as 88 old tanks Leopard 1 decommissioned by the Bundeswehr back in 2003. The only thing left to do is to find ammunition for them.

The Leopard 1 is the first main battle tank built for the German army after World War II. It was produced from the mid 60s to the mid 80s of the last century.

Such allied assistance from Berlin to Kyiv caused a wave of ridicule from ordinary Germans, who, in the comments to an article on this topic published in Die Welt, compared the transfer of Leopard 1 tanks to Ukraine with the “easy disposal” of military equipment.

I'll call Dresden, the military museum. There used to be technology

- ironically wrote a reader with the nickname Georg T.

Scrap metal is a valuable raw material in a country with poor resources!

- commented on the decision of the German government Fritz S.

Germany is demilitarized. You can only shake your head

— sadly wrote Carsten E.

So, Leopard 1, or easy recycling ...

- summed up stephan h.

Other readers have not left aside the rapidly growing demands of the Ukrainian authorities for the supply of more and more modern military equipment.

Curious when there will be criticism from Ukraine that they are too old and it is better to get submarines and Eurofigher fighters instead?

Felix H asked, apparently not knowing that such requests were already being received from Kyiv.

Great, now it remains to approve the Millennium Falcon - and go!

Samdmann hinted at the spaceship from the Star Wars saga.

Comments

[silverwolf88]

Perhaps this is so ... because recycling in the West is long and expensive))) ... and so two in one ... and the nishtyaks within NATO will also receive money

[Alexander 3]

Russia is our big country and we dispose of everyone we don’t like. We’ll just bury them. Can you imagine if we bury everyone in Germany? Therefore, they are very concerned.

[Luka Nord]

Readers of a German newspaper compared the transfer of Leopard 1 tanks to Ukraine with "easy disposal"

Aha, especially when these tanks are shooting at Russian soldiers .. The Fritz will never forgive you for this
We are Russians, of course, those are still utilizers, but this time I think we will definitely utilize several countries and there are no agreements and forgiveness

[zloybond]

Here you just need to be very careful about the presentation of information. There are different categories of attendees. Some soberly and sympathetically relate to the weapons of the enemy. There is a category of alarmists. There are migrants from sharovarnikov - they have their own task. There is a very bad category, the so-called "our" category, which are stupidly obliged to troll the situation, like we will throw bricks at them, they will bend and we will take them prisoner in batches and trade on Avito. So this category with its urYakanyami will only filth the situation. They will just be choking on popcorn from the couch, drinking cola and teasing while practicing propaganda. Do not underestimate any weapon. In skillful hands and a pencil edged weapons.

[Mavrikiy]

Great, now it remains to approve the Millennium Falcon - and go!

No! Turkey still has M48 and M60., do not deprive her of the chance to become the main owner of Leopard 1

[Labrador]

How symbolic: 88 pieces :) Good trolling. The receiving party will have to throw the ridge back

[Machito]

Quote: Labrador

How symbolic: 88 pieces :) Good trolling. The receiving party will have to throw the ridge back

88 - Double pop.

[rocket757]

Readers of a German newspaper compared the transfer of Leopard 1 tanks to Ukraine with "easy disposal"

. Utilization, who will argue with that.

[Arbeiternegast]

Yes, it’s not funny, as it were ... Leo1’s driving performance is excellent, if xx "ly will use them as support for armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles, then everything is not so simple. Yes, in a skirmish with our MBTs, Leo1 is not an enemy, but a 105mm cannon is more powerful than 30mm , if these Leo1s will accompany the actions of small groups on all sorts of Humvees and others ... It is clear that any RPG and ATGM of these Leo1s can be easily disposed of, but our guys will also have more trouble ...

[MSN]

In a "skirmish with our MBTs" you need to understand that 30,7% of the frontal armor (without NLD, and with it 46,7%) will break through the last 105 mm sub-calibers. See: Bulletin of armored vehicles No. 12/1991. pp.8-13

[Arbeiternegast]

It's clear! Here the "possibility of the first shot" and the distance also play a role. Yes, and crew training.
Therefore, I say that there is nothing funny in the delivery of leo1, especially if there are a lot of them ...

[Leader_Barmaleev]

Well, actually, I didn’t notice that checking the condition of a gift horse’s teeth is bad manners in itself, and an attempt to express a proud fi giver is generally beyond the bounds of decency. So smile and say thank you...

[Osipov9391]

Whoever compares what with what, but even such a weapon can bring injury, destruction and death.
Both the civilian population of the LDNR and the military.
Therefore, there is no need to indulge yourself with illusions - for 9 years it is clear that people in the Donbass are killed by any weapon.
Even during the war with Napoleon is capable of this.

And the West is ready to continue to exchange this iron for other people's lives and health.

[UAZ 452]

Well, the Germans dispose of the Leo-1 in this way, we use the T-62 (and the T-72 of the early series is unlikely to win against the first leopard). The only difference is that the Germans dispose of them with Ukrainian crews, and we, it turns out, with our own.

[runway-1]

The fact that NATO countries use Ukraine as a testing ground for the disposal of obsolete weapons and military equipment is not hidden even by Kyiv's allies themselves

Not quite so, often modernized, and besides, it is impossible not to notice that modern models of weapons and military equipment are also being received.

[yuriy1863]

The most interesting thing is how much Kyiv will owe for this "gift". The West has always and at all times provided military-technical assistance far from free of charge.

[Yuriy77]

You shouldn't be so ironic. the first Leo will dismantle all our armored vehicles without any problems, except perhaps for the three T-72/80/90. In the hands of a skilled crew is a formidable war machine.

[Metallurg_2]

In skillful hands and the grandfather's sexual organ is a balalaika.

[opposite28]

The German leadership decided to return Ukraine's historical mental debts by transferring Leopard 1 tanks to the Ukrainian leadership

[blackGRAIL]

The car is the same age as the T-62. At the same time, it surpasses him in SLA. If we say that there will be a place for the T-62 at the front, then the Leopards will also find it. And there are many. For us, this transfer is definitely not good.

[hohohol]

Something like this

For admins:
Brevity is the soul of wit. Alexander Pavlovich Chekhov

[Metallurg_2]

Judging by our red lines, you are not