Help with a catch: General Atomics offers Ukraine MQ-9 Reaper UAV

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Help with a catch: General Atomics offers Ukraine MQ-9 Reaper UAV
UAV MQ-9 Reaper at the airfield


For a long time, the Kiev regime has been begging foreign patrons for a variety of weapons and equipment, incl. reconnaissance and strike UAVs of a heavy class. The American company General Atomics agrees to provide available Drones type MQ-9. However, the supply of such equipment requires an appropriate permit, and its preparation for shipment requires money.



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Talks about the possible delivery of foreign heavy UAVs with a shock function to Ukraine began in February-March last year. Information about the existence of such plans and proposals, as well as about holding consultations, has repeatedly appeared in the foreign press. However, no real steps followed.

A few days ago, the topic of reconnaissance and strike UAVs reappeared in the media. So, on January 31, the American edition of The Wall Street Journal published interesting information on this subject. He managed to obtain a document sent by General Atomics to the Ukrainian leadership and the US government.

According to the WSJ, General Atomics, represented by the aviation division of Aeronautical Systems Inc. (GA-ASI) proposes to send an unmanned aerial vehicle to Ukraine aviation MQ-9 Reaper complex, including two UAVs and a ground control station. These products belong to the manufacturer itself and are now used for training and testing purposes, but they are ready to be abandoned.


MQ-9 in flight

It was reported that GA-ASI plans to "sell" the complex for a symbolic price of $1. At the same time, the recipient will have to bear the associated costs. WSJ reported that the preparation of equipment for shipment, training of personnel and delivery to Ukraine will cost about $ 10 million. In addition, Kyiv will have to bear the operating costs - approx. $8 million annually.

To “sell” an unmanned complex, the manufacturing company needs permission from the US government. According to the WSJ, General Atomics has already applied for it and is waiting for a decision. At the same time, the possible terms for issuing the necessary document are unknown, as well as the terms for the delivery of equipment.

Updated data


Already on February 1, General Atomics issued official clarifications regarding the latest data in the media. The general director of the organization, Linden Blue, confirmed his intention to help the Kyiv regime, clarified some features of the proposed proposal, and also denied some of the information from the press.

The official press release from GA-ASI begins with obligatory bombastic theses about the heroic struggle of Ukraine against the enemy and the unanimous support of the whole world. In addition, the head did not forget to recall the commercial achievements of his company and call its products "the gold standard in the world." After such a peculiar introduction, really interesting information is provided.

The press release recalls that General Atomics has long been looking for an opportunity to help Ukraine with the supply of its products, incl. UAV MQ-9 Reaper and the provision of related services. Various measures are proposed in the form of transfer of equipment, organization of logistics, training of operators, etc.


Drone control station

Indeed, GA-ASI recently made a proposal to transfer to Kyiv two of its training and test UAVs, a control station and other items from stock. Information is being confirmed about a possible sale at a symbolic price and an intention to train personnel at their own expense.

At the same time, the press release reminds of additional items of expenditure. Preparing drones for combat use, equipping them with the necessary equipment, transporting them to a new duty station, organizing sorties, etc. are also associated with certain costs. GA-ASI has no control over these factors, but is willing to perform all necessary work at cost and without profit. It is also indicated that these events will not be held at the expense of American taxpayers.

Also, General Atomics confirms the information of the press that the prospects for delivery depend only on the US leadership. However, the press release does not mention that GA-ASI has requested permission. In addition, unlike the article in the WSJ, the cost of "additional measures" and the operation of equipment is not named.

Benefit Issues


It is easy to see that the publication from The Wall Street Journal and the General Atomics press release generally report the same information. At the same time, there are certain differences in the wording and data presented, which give the whole situation a curious look.


Reaper with JDAM bombs

The WSJ publication revealed all the main details of the GA-ASI proposal, including the financial side of the future delivery. In particular, the approximate cost of the work was named - in fact, the price of equipment for the recipient. So, for the preparation of only two drones and other activities, the Ukrainian side will have to pay approx. 10 million dollars. The operation of the equipment will also not be free for the recipient.

General Atomics neatly sidesteps these issues in its press release. The company notes that it is not going to make money on the supply of UAVs, and taxpayers will not have to pay for it. In fact, the leadership of GA-ASI transparently hints that the money will have to be allocated to the Kyiv regime - but does not say this directly.

You should pay attention to the equipment that is planned to be sent from the United States to Ukraine. We are talking about two MQ-9, owned by the manufacturer and used as experimental platforms. Apparently, this technique is not distinguished by a small age, and besides, it has managed to use up a significant part of its resource. It is likely that two UAVs are in need of repair and restoration. At whose expense it will be carried out, it is not difficult to guess.

Help with a trick


In general, a very interesting situation is emerging. An American commercial company is proactively offering Ukraine modern UAVs, practically free of charge. Such equipment is of great interest to Ukrainian formations and could help them. However, the proposed "help" has a number of characteristic features that predetermine the lack of real results.

First of all, the financial side of the matter is of interest. For a dollar, General Atomics is only ready to sell equipment and train operators. All other activities will be carried out only for money, and it is easy to understand who has already been appointed as the payer.


AIM-9X air-to-air missile drone

As a result of the measures, 10 million dollars, not counting the costs of operation, the Kyiv regime will receive only two UAVs and a control station. The real value of such a complex in the context of the current conflict is in question. For all its advantages and capabilities, the MQ-9 will be at great risk.

Drones of this type are a fairly easy target for Russian air defense systems. There is a great risk that the very first flight of any of the two MQ-9s will be suppressed by air defense forces. In addition, the Russian army can destroy aircraft right at the base airfield. At the same time, the destruction of even one UAV will drastically reduce the operational capabilities of the complex - and its value for the new owner.

Own interests


Thus, it is already clear that with the proposed delivery of the MQ-9 Reaper UAV to Ukraine, the American side plans to solve its own problems. Thus, General Atomics will have the opportunity to demonstrate its commitment to the "ideals of freedom and democracy", as well as get rid of old and unnecessary equipment at no additional cost.

In such a scheme, Ukraine is offered the role of a party that pays for all the work of a foreign partner. At the same time, she will receive a small and not new equipment, which, moreover, is exposed to great risks. No benefits are expected for the Kyiv regime. But his position and opinion are of no interest to anyone.
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  1. +2
    4 February 2023 05: 38
    A ruble for entry ... and 10 rubles for exit ... that's an American crook.
    They will hand over expensive F-35s and drones to customers and then milk them like a goose that lays golden eggs ... we definitely still have to learn and learn their marketing technologies to deceive customers.
    1. 0
      4 February 2023 05: 46
      I agree on the merits, but about "milking the chicken" it's more about bird's milk)))
  2. +3
    4 February 2023 06: 56
    About the hats flew:
    the Kyiv regime will receive only two UAVs and a control station. The real value of such a complex in the context of the current conflict is in question.

    We are talking about two MQ-9, owned by the manufacturer and used as experimental platforms. Apparently, this technique is not distinguished by a small age, and besides, it has managed to use up a significant part of its resource. It is likely that two UAVs are in need of repair and restoration.

    Drones of this type are a fairly easy target for Russian air defense systems. There is a great risk that the very first flight of any of the two MQ-9s will be suppressed by air defense forces.

    In such a scheme, Ukraine is offered the role of a side ... it will receive a small and not new equipment, which, moreover, is exposed to great risks.

    And there is also a great risk that even one raid by reapers will cause serious damage to the boys at the front or somewhere at the airfield near Engels. But it’s better to keep silent about this, it’s much better to talk about how our air defense “bang-bang, knocks down” these reapers.

    Carrying capacity - 1700 kg (caliber bi 400-450 kg), maximum height 15 km, maximum flight time up to 14 hours, flight range up to 1900 km!!!

    There is no perfect air defense. Neither our air defense, nor American, nor Israeli ones can detect and shoot down everything, everything, everything, it has a limited range, etc. It is always better to prevent danger (prevent deliveries, destroy in transit, etc.) than to wait and rely on air defenses.
    1. +1
      4 February 2023 12: 46
      This is the corporate identity of the author.

      In fact, before our eyes, Bandera Ukraine is pumped up technically and technologically, and this only exacerbates the problem, which will still have to be solved, since opponents "cannot find their Rubicon."
    2. -1
      4 February 2023 13: 48
      Quote from: ratoborets
      And there is also a great risk that even one raid by reapers will cause serious damage to the boys at the front or somewhere at the airfield near Engels.

      They probably won't fly there. The Reaper has the same problem as Bayraktara - they are easy targets even for the old Soviet air defense.

      If a large air defense (from Buk and above) is knocked out 100-200 kilometers from the LBS, then yes, large UAVs will have their say. But such options are still in the works. It won't happen tomorrow or this spring.
      1. +4
        4 February 2023 15: 33
        Practice shows that even the Tu-141 can be a difficult target for the new air defense, not like for the Soviet request
    3. +1
      5 February 2023 03: 14
      The author of the article is Kirill Ryabov.
      You don’t have to read the article, the meaning of his articles is always the same: they will send useless junk.
    4. 0
      5 February 2023 23: 10
      How was he going to destroy the supplies? Light missiles will not be able to damage trains, and heavy missiles will not have time to fly there. In any case, the price of a rocket is much higher than it can cause damage. That is why the development of fast kamikaze drones is underway
  3. 0
    4 February 2023 06: 57
    So, for the preparation of only two drones and other activities, the Ukrainian side will have to pay approx. 10 million dollars. The operation of the equipment will also not be free for the recipient.
    As well as specific ammunition for it ... They simply prefer not to remember about them ...
    There is a great risk that the very first flight of any of the two MQ-9s will be suppressed by air defense forces.

    Who does not take risks does not ... receive super profits. And given our "peacefulness" so the risk is reduced to an acceptable
    In addition, the Russian army can destroy aircraft right at the base airfield.

    Lord, within the radius of action of our rocket artillery, Ukrainians are calmly unloading military trains, in the same radius there are bridges across the Dnieper River in Zaporozhye, along which those trains are carrying "Western aid", but we are "peace-loving" ...
    At the same time, the destruction of even one UAV will drastically reduce the operational capabilities of the complex - and its value for the new owner.
    Much will depend on when this UAV will be destroyed and what combat effectiveness it will show by then. It may well be that in the "repositories" there is another "one-dollar" "Predator", or maybe more than one ...
  4. -1
    4 February 2023 08: 36
    . In such a scheme, Ukraine is offered the role of a party paying for all work foreign partner

    When did Ukraine pay for something? Does she have her own money?
    1. +2
      4 February 2023 13: 44
      Quote: Stas157
      Does she have her own money?

      They didn't go anywhere, actually. Gas transit fees, for example.
    2. -1
      5 February 2023 21: 10
      Quote: Stas157
      When did Ukraine pay for something? Does she have her own money?

      Why money? Ukraine has land. So she will pay with it ... Well, and with other objects of the economy. Based on all this, they supply her. Therefore, the "sponsors" need victory to the extreme, which means they will fight to the last opportunity and the last Ukrainian. Here they (Ukrainians) are already caught abroad for mobilization. I think the CBO will be long... and costly. In every way.
  5. -1
    4 February 2023 09: 26
    . There is no perfect air defense. Neither our air defense, nor American, nor Israeli can detect and shoot down everything, everything, everything,

    I do not think that such a high-altitude target will be invisible to our air defense. Low-flying objects can be a problem, especially those using terrain folds.
    And as for the transfer of the reaper to Ukraine, the Americans do nothing at a loss. So they decided to replace their "flying laboratories" with new ones.
    1. -1
      7 February 2023 11: 54
      No one in the world does anything at a loss. More precisely, the ruling elites of the countries do not do anything to themselves at a loss, they can tell the people that they supposedly deceived us, we believed, but in fact everyone who needs it got their benefit. (except for the general population of the country)
  6. -1
    4 February 2023 21: 39
    The Iranians landed the Sentinel stealth drone in 2011. They immediately stuck their noses into it and in 16 they issued a copy of industrial production. "Reaper" can also come in handy.
  7. 0
    5 February 2023 22: 27
    A suitcase without a handle, also for money.
    Familiar handwriting. Suck in useless rubbish, declare it as a feat. Make money on this.. Blame everything on evil Russians or misuse.

    Like, are you going to the mahach here?
    Let's give you toilet paper at a discount, or give you a swimming cap....
  8. 0
    7 February 2023 12: 46
    Well done mattress toppers - for the old rubbish they don't need, 20 lam bucks - pure charity)))
  9. 0
    15 February 2023 16: 40
    I am skeptical about the usefulness of these drones on the Russian-Ukrainian battlefield. Attack reconnaissance UAVs are relatively slow and have poor maneuverability due to the shape of the wing. When the air defense system blocked him, he did not respond due to communication delays and was easily shot down.
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