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How Kazakhs leave. The trade representative is our friend, but...

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How Kazakhs leave. The trade representative is our friend, but...



If the decision is made


You must admit that a very strange decision was officially announced in Kazakhstan the other day: it is planned to abolish the trade representation of the republic in Russia no later than February of this year. Note that it has been in operation since 2002.

It was not at all easy to expect this from a partner in the EAEU, the CSTO and other less binding integration structures. In the current circumstances, to ignore this would be the height of political apathy and myopia. The positive development and, moreover, the expansion of trade and economic relations after such a step is a big question.

"Liquidate the state institution "Trade Representation of the Republic of Kazakhstan in the Russian Federation" of the Ministry of Trade and Integration of the Republic of Kazakhstan",

- noted in the document of this department.

Moreover, the basis for making such a decision is the instruction of the Prime Minister of the country dated January 24.01.2023, 12 No. 11-7 / B-XNUMX. But the content of this order is not officially disclosed. Public discussions of the project will take place - apparently, for "ostentatious democracy" - within two weeks.

While it is difficult to say with certainty what caused this decision. It is possible that Kazakhstan fears secondary sanctions from the West for cooperation with the Russian Federation, about which representatives of the US and the EU have warned Kazakhstan more than once. The Kazakh side in 2022, we recall, has repeatedly guaranteed that it will take into account anti-Russian sanctions.

It is also possible that in Kazakhstan they are dissatisfied with the “symbolic” assortment of Kazakhstani goods (at least, food) in retail chains in Russia, and this is not the first year at all. We also note that in Astana they did not actually support the proposal of the Russian Federation (at the end of 2022) to create a “gas union” of the Russian Federation, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan, which predetermined Tashkent’s half-hearted position on this project (Russia plus - a small gas union instead of a large gas OPEC).

Efficiency.net?


Maybe they want to close the trade mission due to its inefficient work? But it is quite possible to carry out personnel rotation there. The mentioned decision on the trade mission is unlikely to have a positive impact on trade and, in general, economic relations between Kazakhstan and Russia. As well as economic cooperation in the EAEU, not to mention the obvious political consequences of this step.

So far, the position of the Eurasian Economic Commission on this issue remains unclear. However, the EEC has not previously reacted in any way to Astana's assurances that Kazakhstan takes into account Western sanctions against the Russian Federation. Maxim Vilisov, a leading researcher at the Institute of Scientific Information for Social Sciences of the Russian Academy of Sciences, in an interview with the Telegram channel Radiotochka NSN noted that

“Kazakhstan is extremely afraid of secondary sanctions from the US and other Western countries. Therefore, he defiantly tries to show that he is moving away from Russia - against the backdrop of a new package of anti-Russian sanctions.

Boris Kheyfets, a professor at the Financial University under the Government of the Russian Federation, has a similar opinion:

“There have been statements that they do not support the circumvention of sanctions, and now we must bear in mind that a new package of sanctions against Russia is being prepared. There will be restrictive measures or even fines against those who help the Russian Federation circumvent sanctions.”


Accordingly, the decision of Astana on its trade mission testifies "and that Kazakhstan wants to protect"- in fact, to protect in advance -"himself from the consequences of being accused of facilitating circumvention of Western restrictions against the Russian Federation».

It seems that the decision to close the trade mission in Russia came as a surprise to its leadership as well. At the end of December 2022, Acting Trade Representative of Kazakhstan in the Russian Federation Damir Adilbekov reported that this department

“started the next stage of deepening trade and economic cooperation between Kazakhstan and Russia. There are many requests from the regions for the supply of goods and for the opening of production facilities.”

Previously, the trade mission cooperated mainly with the border regions of the Russian Federation, but now, according to the acting trade representative, the geography of cooperation is expanding.

However, it is noteworthy that D. Adilbekov for a very long time was nothing more than an acting trade representative. This means that in Astana they did not plan ahead of time to give the appropriate status to the Kazakh trade representative in the Russian Federation.
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  1. parusnik
    parusnik 6 February 2023 05: 01
    +4
    Probably, another store with Kazakh goods will close in our town .. So-so .. confectionery, canned food, manufactured goods .. Prices? .. The same, for something more expensive..
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 6 February 2023 05: 11
      0
      Kazakhstan is extremely afraid of secondary sanctions from the US and other Western countries.
      Some shy our partner in the EAEU! belay
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 6 February 2023 22: 49
        +3
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Some shy partner of ours

        it used to be called cunning ... let's say done, but now it's multi-vector
    2. Mikhail Drabkin
      Mikhail Drabkin 6 February 2023 07: 32
      +9
      very strange decision... in Kazakhstan: ... no later than February of this year, to abolish the trade representation of the republic in Russia.

      — There are two reasons: the perception of Russia as a weakened, weakening power. In the process of further loss of influence and historical space of Russia (sphere) ... including the defeat of Armenia / the victory of Azerbaijan - Turkey ..

      —- And the second is the accelerated penetration of the need for Kazakh national self-identification - from the language, political culture, the choice of development guidelines, new allies with a multi-vector orientation towards Turkey, S. Arabia ... Self-identification is based on the denial of all forms of imperial Russia, including the USSR, and myths about Kazakh historical nation.

      —-National self-identification is an ideological necessity in the post-Soviet and fraternal space, an objective process ... which cannot be stopped by Russia's economic and other levers. It is as necessary as the self-identification of Russia as a power. These ideas are immortal, they cannot be canceled or destroyed.

      —-Russia can preserve this process only by force (because only ".. force is respected, because it is feared ..".

      —- Convincing change in the NWO, positive economic dynamics, overcoming technological dependence and weakness are the necessary prerequisites for the possible preservation of spheres of influence.

      —- If Russia is seriously concerned about the southern border and the potential of a hostile Kazakhstan as a leader of ... countries, Russia should immediately consider using the lessons of 2014 - 2022.
      1. Asad
        Asad 6 February 2023 08: 01
        +2
        They haven’t mothballed the country yet, but you have already fixed your eyes on Kazakhstan. I have to remind you that the leader of China, Comrade Xi, did not hint ambiguously about the inviolability of Kazakhstan's borders and the non-use of nuclear weapons.
        1. bayard
          bayard 6 February 2023 09: 59
          +3
          Quote: ASAD
          They haven’t mothballed the country yet, but you have already fixed your eyes on Kazakhstan.

          From Krajina-U, no one will arrange a conservatory or a cannery, the problem will be solved. And since the West has de facto declared war on us, then we will have to equip our borders based on these threats. One Krajina will not end.
          Quote: ASAD
          I have to remind you that the leader of China, Comrade Xi

          Comrade Xi has his own concerns and his own opinion.
          Like Uzbekistan.
          And the question of the legality of the exclusion from Russia and the RSFSR of the vast territories of the Cossack Republic (Kazakhstan) - the region of the All-Great Army of the Urals and Semirechensky, has yet to be discussed, assessed and Decision.
          Quote: ASAD
          Xi has not ambiguously hinted at the inviolability of the borders of Kazakhstan

          So Russia repeatedly and unequivocally recognized the former Ukraine within the borders of the Ukrainian SSR, and then times and reality changed, and the right decisions came.
          Quote: ASAD
          and not the use of nuclear weapons.

          lol Comrade Xi is in a hurry, he is building positional areas for ICBMs, up to 1000 nuclear warheads on strategic carriers. threatens to bring it to the end of the decade.
          In fact, we are all for Peace, Goodness and Truth.
          But our Truth must be with fists. angry
          In order to reliably protect our Good. bully
          This is how we protect. yes
          Our World and our Good. soldier
          1. Bioorganism
            Bioorganism 8 February 2023 07: 58
            0
            Here you capture the RK, the next move?
        2. LTCNL
          LTCNL 7 February 2023 08: 57
          0
          Comrade Xi has his own Taiwan, just like Russia has its entire post-Soviet space. Will agree.
          1. Bioorganism
            Bioorganism 10 February 2023 08: 07
            0
            Why is this for the Chinese? I don't think they will agree. In terms of the economy, the Russian Federation is moving into colonial dependence on the PRC. The PRC receives oil and gas from the ROK. Why do the Chinese need a mess in the Republic of Kazakhstan?
      2. Aleksandr21
        Aleksandr21 6 February 2023 09: 04
        +5
        Quote: Mikhail Drabkin
        - There are two reasons: the perception of Russia as a weakened, weakening power .... And the second is the accelerated penetration of the need for Kazakh national self-identification ...


        These are indirect reasons, the main one (in my opinion) is the indifference of the Russian leadership to the integration processes in the EAEU, because the basis of bilateral relations - with neighbors, is determined primarily by the economy, and who are our main trading partners of Kazakhstan? China and Russia.

        Kazakhstan has huge profits from the Russian market and our bilateral relations, but when it comes to politics, it begins to maneuver between China, the West and Russia .... why we use only carrots and are afraid to offend Kazakh clans is a mystery to me) how Russia protects their interests, silently? Yes, if the trade representation of China in Kazakhstan were closed, then half of the trade would stop there, duties on Kazakhstani goods would rise, investments would stop, and customs very closely and for a long time investigated the origin of goods and slowly let them pass ....

        And in our country, the infringement of Russian interests in "friendly" countries occurs constantly, but there is no answer like that .... Is GDP afraid that neighbors will leave for others? So with such a policy, they leave anyway, silently enduring this is not an option, then it’s easier to close the market for such “friends” and give more opportunities to the same domestic producers, or the same Belarus, to make money on our market, otherwise it’s a very strange policy ....


        Actually, it was the same with Ukraine, some goodies: loans, cheap energy resources - sponsoring the economy / industry of Ukraine, and in response, Russophobia / pro-European position, etc. - we know the result.
      3. Epaulettes
        Epaulettes 6 February 2023 21: 41
        +1
        Quote: Mikhail Drabkin
        by force


        Where can I get it, this power?
    3. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 6 February 2023 22: 48
      -3
      Quote: parusnik
      So-so..

      Well, here you are not quite right, pasta is better than many Russian ones, confectioneries really have become ..., especially after the purchase of the Alma-Ata confectionery factory by the Chinese
  2. ivan2022
    ivan2022 6 February 2023 05: 37
    +11
    The Kazakhs go where the government officials send them. Officials go where their masters in the West are driving them.

    A state or a union is independent only if it has a population of more than 200-300 million. But only a society with a cultural level slightly higher than that of a herd of sheep can create and maintain such a state.
    1. old
      old 6 February 2023 06: 37
      +4
      Officials go where their masters in the West are driving them.

      Under Nazarbayev, Kazakhstan tried to suck two tits. Now he sucks from three, but not titeks and without Russia as a member.
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 6 February 2023 06: 58
        +15
        Under Nazarbayev, Kazakhstan tried to suck two tits.

        All lovers of such exercises with the West will sooner or later be surprised to discover that it was not a tit at all ..
        1. ivan1979nkl
          ivan1979nkl 6 February 2023 08: 07
          0
          Russia is a direct competitor to Kazakhstan in the market, since it also trades in raw materials
        2. old
          old 6 February 2023 08: 14
          +2
          All lovers of such exercises with the West will sooner or later be surprised to discover that it was not a tit at all ..

          Already started: Jan Kedmi has already posted a video in which a resident of Kazakhstan recalled all the “virtuous” deeds of the West in the country over the past 30 years of independence.  

          https://t.me/kedmi/33255
  3. Nikolay Malyugin
    Nikolay Malyugin 6 February 2023 05: 38
    +13
    Here, many reproaches can be made towards Kazakhstan. This is the active participation of the Ukrainian embassy on the territory of this country, and the participation of individuals in Ukraine against us, and many other things. But by and large, we don’t need this. I have never heard protests from officials . So it turned out, we live our lives, they live theirs. Our humanitarian influence compared to Turkey and China is zero. Somewhere in Africa, we are spudding a large territory. But under the side, well, just no way.
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 February 2023 06: 27
    +10
    Kazakhstan is slowly but surely beginning to distance itself from Russia. And it's not just the "fear of secondary sanctions" and Kazakh nationalism, the bright signs of which periodically flare up (as if on cue). Kazakh officials and politicians decided that friendship with Europe and the United States is much more important than historical ties with Russia, and at the same time they even forgot about China's influence on this republic for a while. And military assistance to Ukraine through third countries is also a republic that is part of the CSTO. How this will end is hard to say, but the beginnings of the "Ukrainian way" are in sight.
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 6 February 2023 07: 19
      +11
      friendship with Europe and the United States is much more important than historical ties with Russia

      No. It's just that Kazakhstan, like other neighbors, clearly believed that Russia would do absolutely nothing to him, no matter what tricks he played. All of them - iron will be unpunished.
      1. Asad
        Asad 6 February 2023 08: 05
        +2
        China issued them a safe-conduct, so they have nothing to fear. We will not go against China.
        1. D16
          D16 6 February 2023 13: 32
          -2
          Kazakhstan is a hostage of its own geographical position next to our position areas of the Strategic Missile Forces. At the slightest attempt to climb under the European or American roof, Kazakhstan will end within its current borders.
  5. nikolaevskiy78
    nikolaevskiy78 6 February 2023 07: 53
    +17
    Nothing strange. The useless sharaga was removed. We, too, can remove 90% of trade missions for their fatal uselessness.
    1. Cananecat
      Cananecat 6 February 2023 08: 15
      +4
      Quote: nikolaevskiy78
      The useless sharaga was removed.

      Agree completely, optimized. But it is worth asking the "all-propalists" and such a howl will rise ... but in fact, none of those present is able to clearly, distinctly, and most importantly correctly argue why the closure of the trade mission is bad. Just as they will not be able to give a detailed answer to the question, what did this representation give us and Kazakhstan in reality, besides demonstrating the flag ...
      1. kor1vet1974
        kor1vet1974 6 February 2023 09: 57
        0
        but in fact, none of those present are able to clearly, distinctly, and most importantly competently argue why the closure of the trade mission is bad.
        So the authors cannot explain this: Is the closure of the trade mission good or bad? Why throw stones at the commentators .. You also didn’t express your opinion, but agreed with someone else’s.
  6. kor1vet1974
    kor1vet1974 6 February 2023 08: 08
    +5
    The longer the NWO goes with "goodwill gestures", the farther away from us will be many states in the CIS and not only ..
  7. Gomunkul
    Gomunkul 6 February 2023 08: 18
    +5
    Maybe they want to close the trade mission due to its inefficient work?
    This option is quite possible, given the tasks that are set for the trade mission:
    The main tasks of the trade representation are:
    Representing the interests of the state on foreign trade issues in the host country;
    Promoting the development of trade relations;
    Study of the general economic and legal conditions and market conditions of the host country and information about this from public authorities, participants in foreign economic activity (exporters and importers);
    Organization of visits of delegations to the host country, organization of meetings of business circles of their country and the host country;
    Other types of assistance in the host country to national participants in foreign economic activity.

    On my own behalf, I will add that there are a lot of Belarusian goods in our region, but I have not seen Kazakh ones. hi
    1. Aleksandr21
      Aleksandr21 6 February 2023 09: 20
      +5
      Quote: Gomunkul
      On my own behalf, I will add that there are a lot of Belarusian goods in our region, but I have not seen Kazakh ones.


      I have the opposite situation, I live in the Omsk region, there are a lot of Kazakh goods, there are even separate stores with Kazakh goods in small towns in the region, but goods from Belarus practically do not reach, mostly local producers.
  8. Ivanov IV
    Ivanov IV 6 February 2023 08: 43
    0
    Maybe someone will finally explain to the Kazakhs that the East Kazakhstan region has been the Russian Land for centuries.
    And the Kazakhs never had any State in the old days. And what Russia once "gave" them in the hope of developing "intelligence" can be returned back!
    1. Epaulettes
      Epaulettes 6 February 2023 21: 40
      +1
      Quote: Ivanov IV
      Maybe finally somebody will explain to the Kazakhs that the East Kazakhstan region has been the Russian Land from time immemorial.


      Why does "someone" have to do it? You voiced this thesis - so you go and explain.
    2. Bioorganism
      Bioorganism 8 February 2023 07: 52
      0
      Can you really explain? Even Ivan the Terrible sent an embassy to the Kazakh Khanate. And the East Kazakhstan region has only been related to Russia for the last couple of hundred years.
      About "from time immemorial" is it with which one? And what does "Russian Land" mean?
  9. Zymran
    Zymran 6 February 2023 10: 27
    +6
    So many idiots in the comments...
    It's actually just an optimization. They removed the useless gasket in the form of idle idlers.
  10. Aleprok
    Aleprok 6 February 2023 10: 38
    +1
    And what non-sanctioned goods does Kazakhstan produce? What do they truly do? Transnational corporations produce some small things and assemble their products on their territory. What remains is raw materials, which we now even eat backwards))) They have nothing to sell here, especially with such a Russophobic policy. So the move is predictable. They probably want to try "like in Ukraine". But something tells me that they will not receive such support as the outskirts a priori. Yes, and they don’t have Rzeszow near the border
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 6 February 2023 22: 52
      -1
      Quote from Aleprok
      And what non-sanctioned goods does Kazakhstan produce? What do they truly do?
      foodstuffs
    2. aglet
      aglet 7 February 2023 11: 03
      -1
      "What are they doing truly of their own?"
      koumiss and horse sausage
  11. antiaircrafter
    antiaircrafter 6 February 2023 11: 14
    +1
    it is planned to abolish the trade representation of the republic in Russia no later than February of this year.

    And the dog is with him. The Kashakhs do not want to trade their business.
    It is more important that the trade representation of Russia in Kazakhstan function effectively. We sold Russian goods there and bought the ones we needed.
  12. north 2
    north 2 6 February 2023 11: 45
    +6
    one can dream that the Presidential Administration should have departments for the affairs of each of the fourteen former Soviet republics. And not through economic ties, but in order to direct the ideology and politics in those republics in Russia in the right and profitable direction. And why not take an example from the Americans. In Georgia, in Ukraine, in Armenia, in the Baltic states and in the same Kazakhstan, a total of twenty thousand Americans may live, but America organized "color revolutions" and state governments that were beneficial for America. coups. But in the same republics live twenty million loyal and faithful Russian and Russian-speaking people abandoned by Gorbachev and Yeltsin, and Russia was not able to organize profitable “color revolutions” and state affairs for Russia there. coups. And I didn’t even try!
    I understand that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs "does not catch mice." But then there should be a special structure with powers higher than that of the Foreign Ministry. The USSR also had a Foreign Ministry. And above the Ministry of Foreign Affairs there was also a department of the Central Committee of the CPSU and the Politburo. And who is doing it now? Nobody !!! . Well, America will do it! And he's doing it!
    1. Bioorganism
      Bioorganism 8 February 2023 07: 54
      0
      Was the Pugachev rebellion in Kazakhstan back in the 90s?
  13. evgen1221
    evgen1221 6 February 2023 15: 51
    -4
    Another one (not a country due to a misunderstanding) is on the verge of a grandiose nix. The roots of the country and the people have already led to the collapse of several post-Soviet countries, the turn of Kazakhstan. Support for the putsch by the people is recent, the first bell that you can’t put a bolt on the population for a long time. Wait, their elites are frantically rushing between China and the West, to whom they will sell at a higher price, so that they will be fed further and they will pan in their mansions. And the choice is difficult. Since the money of almost all of their elites in the west, the Kazakhs will not take out the sanctions at all and in no way, well, there is no such reserve of confidence in their government among the population, and the export economy is very even. And with the choice to miscalculate it will be like death (we and China will not tolerate such tricks with mattresses under one more side for a long time). For now, they are trying to maneuver both yours and ours and sit down and eat a fish. Well, if they think of only building an economic binder between the three forces, then God bless them, but if they fall under undesirable elements politically and militarily, then it will be bad for them. I personally cross the normal border with the Kazakhs - there is already a lot of counterfeit goods in Altai from them and Colorado potato beetles in bottles from their trucks get to us in Altai and further along the route. About drugs through the missing border and control I am silent already.
  14. epicurean
    epicurean 6 February 2023 17: 32
    +11
    I know one woman, a Russian German from KZ. She says it's something else. Many Kazakhs travel to China and South Korea, see how they live there and how they develop. They gradually form the perception of Kazakhstan as an Asian dragon. They want to be like other Asian countries that are now experiencing rampant economic growth. Unfortunately, we cannot offer them anything. They see for themselves what is happening in Russia. In this regard, we have nothing to brag about. We never became like the Emirates, although in 20 years we have earned almost 3 trillion dollars. We have a dead-end vector of development, where all the export money from oil and gas goes not to improve the country, but into the pocket of whoever. And the Kazakhs understand all this perfectly, looking back at Kazakhstan and South Korea, which built their economic greatness without selling raw materials. This is the answer to the question why Kazakhstan is moving away from Russia.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 6 February 2023 22: 54
      -4
      Quote: epicurean
      And the Kazakhs understand all this perfectly, looking back at Kazakhstan and South Korea, which built their economic greatness without selling raw materials. This is the answer to the question why Kazakhstan is moving away from Russia.

      Forgive me, but apart from food and raw materials, the Kazakhs cannot offer anything to the world today
  15. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
    Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 6 February 2023 20: 13
    0
    All these "body movements" of the Kazakhs should not be so surprised ... The usual hanging out in the hole from one edge to the other is the fate of small countries and small peoples.
    Tomorrow another wind will blow and it will sail in the other direction without any remorse. History has many confirmations of these "maneuvers".
    Everything else - nationalism, rejection of the one who supported you before, persecution of other nations and their culture with history - this is a form of hiding your eternal complexes.
    Few were able to avoid this, and the Kazakhs were not among them! They cannot be grateful to the generosity of Russia, to its President Putin, to us, because some out of anger that they could not turn Kazakhstan over, and the second because they could not take out the well-known situation on their own.
    And then History will judge us all, and it’s a pity that we won’t be able to see all this. a human age is a second in eternity!
  16. Skif Skif
    Skif Skif 6 February 2023 21: 31
    +1
    Trade representatives are a bunch of parasites. And we have a couple to close for a long time
  17. egorMTG
    egorMTG 6 February 2023 22: 00
    0
    Quote from Aleprok
    And what non-sanctioned goods does Kazakhstan produce? What do they truly do? Transnational corporations produce some small things and assemble their products on their territory. What remains is raw materials, which we now even eat backwards))) They have nothing to sell here, especially with such a Russophobic policy. So the move is predictable. They probably want to try "like in Ukraine". But something tells me that they will not receive such support as the outskirts a priori. Yes, and they don’t have Rzeszow near the border


    - do not flatter yourself ... the Americans, with their quiet and creeping policy in such cases - everything suits just fine! ...
  18. egorMTG
    egorMTG 6 February 2023 22: 25
    +1
    Quote: epicurean
    I know one woman, a Russian German from KZ. She says it's something else. Many Kazakhs travel to China and South Korea, see how they live there and how they develop. They gradually form the perception of Kazakhstan as an Asian dragon. They want to be like other Asian countries that are now experiencing rampant economic growth. Unfortunately, we cannot offer them anything. They see for themselves what is happening in Russia. In this regard, we have nothing to brag about. We never became like the Emirates, although in 20 years we have earned almost 3 trillion dollars. We have a dead-end vector of development, where all the export money from oil and gas goes not to improve the country, but into the pocket of whoever. And the Kazakhs understand all this perfectly, looking back at Kazakhstan and South Korea, which built their economic greatness without selling raw materials. This is the answer to the question why Kazakhstan is moving away from Russia.


    - .... still the answer to the question: - and what to do in this case ...?
  19. Fangaro
    Fangaro 6 February 2023 22: 25
    -2
    The country is trying to close itself off from US economic aggression. If Russia turned out to be strong enough in the economy to protect all "friends and allies", then everyone would remain nearby.
    Economy.
    The United States will buy Kazakh dust and in exchange supply consumer goods and equipment for the extraction of new dust - that's an ally of the Republic of Kazakhstan.
    Russia will buy twice as much Kazakh dust and supply three times as much consumer goods and convert the national currency of the Republic of Kazakhstan into gold - that's Russia's new ally.
  20. Eric D.
    Eric D. 6 February 2023 23: 19
    0
    These are parasitic strains. While Putin was giving away taxpayers' money to them, they were theirs!
    1. Bioorganism
      Bioorganism 8 February 2023 07: 56
      +1
      We need to stop giving money! And we must stop trading in Russian products. Let the RK howl first, and then agree to everything.
  21. odometer
    odometer 7 February 2023 07: 10
    -1
    Quote from Aleprok
    They probably want to try "like in Ukraine".

    No. We want it like in France wink
  22. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 7 February 2023 07: 36
    0
    Were you expecting something else?
    Kazakhs are still the same
    guys.
    One can, of course, hope that this is a multi-way game in order to be able to bypass sanctions, but ....
  23. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 7 February 2023 15: 10
    -1
    Quote: Uncle Lee
    Some shy our partner in the EAEU!


    Yes, they sold out even under Nazarbay to the West.
    Well, they don't understand this democracy of perverts in Central Asia, they understand only force.
    Everything else is perceived as weakness and impotence.

    In Kazakh kindergartens, matinees are held where children (including a few Russian children) are brainwashed with stories about the Soviet occupation.
    Kazakh Nazis from language patrols insult and humiliate Russians.
    And our associates of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs are silent, they do not even express sexual concern.

    What would the US do in such a situation?
    There are two options, Panamanian - soft, and hard - Grenadian.

    Russia cannot be left in the "underbelly" of such a rotten abscess as the completely US-controlled regimes of Central Asia.
    The heads of these countries do not even hide their attitude towards Russia, everything is written on their faces.
    "Akella missed" - this is what is read by their gloomy facial expressions when they reluctantly, as if through force, come to Putin.

    It's time to change this attitude, or change these semi-kings.

    Why do our Authorities, prostrating themselves before their fellow citizens who flooded the cities of Russia, do not use this resource?

    Breaking off goods from their citizens and generously endowing newcomers, one cannot achieve respect and obedience of the Central Asian bais.

    What are guaranteed pensions from the Russian Federation for migrants, or iron armor from the NWO.

    Why will young Asians of retired age, working here in Russia, receive a pension from the Russian Federation, but they cannot serve, defending the country that gives them so many benefits?

    Yes, these guys are laughing when the police and the military are hunting Russian draft dodgers.

    It comes to the point of absurdity, the employees of the housing office, young Kazakhs, with the police, participated in round-ups of draft dodgers.

    Yes, you need to call them to the NWO!
    They will run away to Kazakhstan and other "stans", so it's good!

    Intractable, ignorant of Putin, Asian bais will crawl on their knees to the Kremlin, begging to be taken back to the Russian Federation by millions of unemployed, many of whom are criminals.

    Remember how during the pandemic, hordes of migrants who fled from infection to their "camps" sharply raised the level of serious crimes (murders, rapes, robberies and robberies) in their native villages.
    At the collegium of ministers of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the CIS, in Moscow, the Asian ministers begged to be taken back to Russia by their fellow citizens, because. the growth of serious cases from 17% to 34% literally brought their departments to their knees.
    1. Zymran
      Zymran 7 February 2023 18: 42
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      It comes to the point of absurdity, the employees of the housing office, young Kazakhs, with the police, participated in round-ups of draft dodgers.

      Yes, you need to call them to the NWO!
      They will run away to Kazakhstan and other "stans", so it's good!

      Intractable, ignorant of Putin, Asian bais will crawl on their knees to the Kremlin, begging to be taken back to the Russian Federation by millions of unemployed, many of whom are criminals.

      Remember how during the pandemic, hordes of migrants who fled from infection to their "camps" sharply raised the level of serious crimes (murders, rapes, robberies and robberies) in their native villages.
      At the collegium of ministers of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the CIS, in Moscow, the Asian ministers begged to be taken back to Russia by their fellow citizens, because. the growth of serious cases from 17% to 34% literally brought their departments to their knees.


      There are no Kazakh gasters in the Russian Federation. Uzbeks 3 million, Tajiks and Kyrgyz 1.5 million each. Citizens of Kazakhstan - 70 thousand. And most of them are Russian.
  24. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 8 February 2023 06: 25
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    Quote: Zymran
    There are no Kazakh gasters in the Russian Federation. Uzbeks 3 million, Tajiks and Kyrgyz 1.5 million each. Citizens of Kazakhstan - 70 thousand. And most

    You need to understand that you are operating with official data, the corrupt girl of capitalism, Rosstat.
    The real situation is reflected in the UN report: 18 migrants live in Russia.
    1. Bioorganism
      Bioorganism 8 February 2023 07: 57
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      I think that you are right! We urgently need to expel all Kazakhs from Russia. We need a visa regime between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Kazakhstan!
    2. Zymran
      Zymran 8 February 2023 10: 53
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      Uzbeks, Tajiks and Kyrgyz if we talk about Central Asians. Plus Russians from Kazakhstan. I have many acquaintances who have lived with you for quite a long time, but have not received citizenship. And now we are very happy about it.
  25. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 8 February 2023 08: 24
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    Quote from Bioorganism
    We need a visa regime between the Russian Federation and

    Exactly!
    Here is the data on the increase in crimes after the return of migrants from Russia in Kyrgyzstan:

    "Recall that, according to the National Statistical Committee of the Kyrgyz Republic, since the beginning of 2021, 23,5 thousand crimes have been registered in Kyrgyzstan. This 1,5 times morethan six months of 2020. The first three places are occupied by theft (10 cases), fraud (400) and hooliganism (6).

    - Number of crimes against the individual in the republic increased by almost a third. At the same time, the number of murders increased by 26 percent, rapes and attempted rape - by 34, causing less serious harm to health - by six percent, - noted in the National Statistical Committee.

    According to Emil Chambaev, finding thefts in the first place in statistics is a global trend."

    These are outrageous facts!
    It turns out that murderers, rapists and robbers calmly committed these crimes in Russia.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/rg.ru/amp/2021/08/26/pandemiia-covid-19-stala-prichinoj-rosta-prestupnosti-v-kirgizii.html