The Pentagon is looking for a solution to the problem of toxic gases entering the cockpit of a promising MPF tank after a shot

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The Pentagon is looking for a solution to the problem of toxic gases entering the cockpit of a promising MPF tank after a shot

Recent tests by the Pentagon of its promising lung tank showed that when the crew fires from the main gun, the toxic gases generated during the shot enter the cockpit of the combat vehicle, writes Breaking Defense.

We are talking about the promising American 38-ton MPF ​​tank, which is being developed by GDLS, which last year signed a contract with the Pentagon in the amount of 1,14 billion dollars.



The material states that the Fiscal Year 2022 (DOT&E) Director of Operational Testing and Evaluation (DOT&E) report released last month said that while the tank prototype from GDLS has shown "satisfactory progress" in achieving "operational efficiency, reliability and availability for infantry support”, there are several “vulnerabilities” that need to be addressed before the army decides on the mass production of a combat vehicle in fiscal year 2025.

Along with an insufficient cooling system and poor sound insulation, as the aforementioned document says, the problem was the ingress of toxic gases into the tank's cockpit after each shot.

However, as Ashley John, director of public relations of the Executive Directorate of the US Army Ground Combat Systems Program, told the publication, at the moment there is already a solution to the above problem.

According to her, during the tests, the tank crew had to work with open hatches in order to ventilate the cabin from toxic gases generated after a shot from the main gun.

Therefore, in order to solve the problem in the long term, we will add a purge system to remove gases from the area where the crew is located.

John stated.
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  1. -1
    3 February 2023 14: 28
    If the tank is promising, then why is the tower inhabited there at all? It seems that the vector of tank building in particular is already clear, and armored vehicles in general to install an uninhabited combat module? How is such a retrograde, I wonder, justified?
    1. 0
      3 February 2023 14: 48
      It seems that the vector of tank building in particular is already clear, and armored vehicles in general to install an uninhabited combat module?


      And this is for sure - what is already clear to EVERYONE?
      It seems that no one in the world except us makes tanks with an uninhabited tower. The only example is Armata.
      The fact is stubborn: Armata publicly appeared at the parade back in 2017 and since then, for some reason, NOBODY in the world has repeated this concept. Nobody rushes after us.

      Here the Germans presented at Eurosatory 2022 their newest Panther KF51 tank (130mm cannon, automatic loader, active protection, UAV carrier, etc.) - and also for some reason without an uninhabited tower! Seems like a retrograde too?
      1. 0
        3 February 2023 15: 03
        Quote from: dump22
        Here the Germans presented at Eurosatory 2022 their newest Panther KF51 tank (130mm cannon, automatic loader, active protection, UAV carrier, etc.) - and also for some reason without an uninhabited tower! Seems like a retrograde too?



        The tank you specified is an OBT.
        The promising MPF tank is a light tank and a tactical combination of Bradley, Striker and (depending on the task) attached light tank or Abrams.
        Why there is no automatic loader - there can be many options, to the point that the War Department refused the option proposed by General Dynamics with a machine gun because of the price.
        1. +4
          3 February 2023 15: 33
          Why there is no automatic loader - there can be many options

          There is only one option here - look carefully at the photo of this, God forgive me, tank - next to it, as if specially for the scale, two men of medium height. If the clearance of this device is at least 45 cm, then the driver is either a dwarf or lying down. In the tower, most of the space is occupied by the breech of the gun, the shells, apparently, are in the rear compartment of the tower, since there is nowhere to squeeze the elevator and if the crew is not dwarfs, then it is VERY cramped. Where else to put the automatic loader with its levers - there is less space than in Zaporozhye ...
          1. +1
            3 February 2023 15: 48
            Quote: Leader_Barmaleev
            Where else to put the automatic loader with its levers - there is less space than in Zaporozhye ...


            Saglasen. But there is one but:
            The loader must be physically strong, i.e. not a dwarf at all - to maintain a rate of fire of 12 rounds per minute.
            Plus, the armor holds only 30mm, which increases the possibility of four tankers getting into their paradise at once, and not three.
      2. +1
        3 February 2023 15: 43
        In the United States, they wanted to equip the tank with an uninhabited turret and an automatic loader. This is reported by Army Recognition, citing a press release from Congressman Tim Ryan's team.

        The press release stressed that additional funding will be directed towards developing requirements and architecture for integrating an uninhabited automatic loader turret into the M1A2 Abrams. It will also allow work to begin on a hybrid propulsion system for an American tank.
        1. 0
          4 February 2023 12: 37
          This is reported by Army Recognition, citing a press release from Congressman Tim Ryan's team.


          Thank you, this is very interesting.
          And this is already 4 or 5 messages about such "intentions" from a variety of sites.
          Only things are still there.
    2. +1
      3 February 2023 15: 31
      Quote: voice of reason
      If the tank is promising, then why is the tower inhabited there at all? It seems that the vector of tank building in particular is already clear, and armored vehicles in general to install an uninhabited combat module? How is such a retrograde, I wonder, justified?

      Justified by English arrogance, commitment to everything established, traditional.
  2. +2
    3 February 2023 14: 35
    According to her, during the tests, the tank crew had to work with open hatches in order to ventilate the cabin from toxic gases generated after a shot from the main gun.
    In general, when firing, increased pressure should be created in the tank, so that as little as possible of the burnt powder gases would be drawn into the fighting compartment, but for this the hatches must be closed
    1. +1
      3 February 2023 14: 42
      Most likely, this crew was so sensitive that they didn’t sniff gunpowder, but the fact that their opinion is taken into account is correct.
    2. 0
      3 February 2023 14: 43
      Well, the woman was driven into the paint.

      ----------------------------
      Not gifted enough for a longer comment.

      PS

      With this light tank, the army team intends to replace the M1128 Stryker, which is a problematic vehicle in its configuration.
  3. +3
    3 February 2023 14: 40
    Are American tank crews really so nervous and so afraid of the sound of shots that after each shot the tank is filled with... um... toxic gases? But seriously, this problem was solved a long time ago and radically in SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS - from a muzzle ejector to a supercharger pump that maintains pressure in the tank 10-15 mm more than outside. A separate topic - gassing pallets or shells - so systems for extracting this good to the outside have already appeared. So it's even a little strange to read this.
    1. +3
      3 February 2023 14: 53
      Quote: Leader_Barmaleev
      this problem was solved long ago and cardinally in SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS

      I'm getting more and more fucking from "having no analogues in the world." Some kind of tiltrotor that has no analogues in the world - they can do it. It has no analogues in the world, because nobody needs the fuck. By the way, Americans too. But a banal problem that has already been forgotten all over the world is not able to be solved. Maybe because you can’t cut it on solving this problem ?!
    2. +2
      3 February 2023 14: 57
      extraction has been operating for 40 years already on the T-62
      1. 0
        3 February 2023 16: 40
        Quote: frei67
        extraction has been operating for 40 years already on the T-62

        T-62 put into mass production 60 years ago...
        1. 0
          3 February 2023 17: 45
          I'm talking about my service in SA. Don't know if it was on earlier modifications
  4. +2
    3 February 2023 14: 45
    It seems that there is an injector on the gun, what do they want, I don’t understand? Blow out the barrel after the shot like the Germans, improve the FVU (filter-ventilation unit)
    1. +2
      3 February 2023 14: 49
      Why is there an injector on the gun? Not enough carburetor? laughing
  5. +5
    3 February 2023 14: 47
    I'm not an artilleryman, maybe you need to close the shutter when firing or not shoot against the wind. wassat
    1. +1
      3 February 2023 15: 07
      maybe you need to close the shutter when firing


      This shutter must sometimes be opened and not necessarily when the powder gases themselves disappear.
    2. +2
      3 February 2023 16: 43
      Quote: tralflot1832
      do not shoot against the wind.

      This is a thought! In addition, the projectile will fly further in the wind ...
      You just need to go at the enemy from the side where the wind blows.
      1. +2
        3 February 2023 17: 36
        you need to go to the enemy from the side where the wind blows
        these are the basics of naval combat of sailboats laughing
  6. +3
    3 February 2023 14: 57
    What is the problem? Issue tankers adult diapers with sorption absorbers or catalytic converters.
  7. +1
    3 February 2023 15: 22
    we will add a purge system to remove gases from the area where the crew is located
    It’s strange, but it was impossible to think about this at the stage of developing the tank, or did they not have time because they were in a hurry to master the money?
  8. +1
    3 February 2023 15: 26
    Let them try using window putty or plasticine. what Or cut a window for ventilation.
    1. 0
      3 February 2023 16: 21
      Quote: Captive
      Let them try using window putty or plasticine. what Or cut a window for ventilation.

      You don't have to do anything! There are upper hatches, let them open. So that UAVs do not fly in vain, not only for reconnaissance.
  9. 0
    3 February 2023 15: 30
    Quote: voice of reason
    If the tank is promising, then why is the tower inhabited there at all? It seems that the vector of tank building in particular is already clear, and armored vehicles in general to install an uninhabited combat module? How is such a retrograde, I wonder, justified?

    Prospects are different ... not even bright)

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