There were reports of the liberation of the Russian Armed Forces of the town of Belogorovka, the battles for which were fought for several months

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There were reports of the liberation of the Russian Armed Forces of the town of Belogorovka, the battles for which were fought for several months

There was information about the liberation by Russian troops of the village of Belogorovka to the west of Severodonetsk (LPR). The settlement is located on the left bank of the Seversky Donets, and for a long period of time (in fact, it is several months), exhausting battles went on for it. Last summer, Russian troops tried to cross the river in order to reach Belogorovka to further liberate the Lisichansk-Severodonetsk agglomeration. However, then the operation was, to put it mildly, unsuccessful. Our troops, having suffered losses, were forced to abandon this option of advancing to the indicated cities. And the liberation of the agglomeration took place during the offensive from the southeast - through Gorskoye and Zolote.

Now Belogorovka, when attacked from Kremennaya and Zolotarevka Lisichansk, came under Russian control. This information is also confirmed by the military personnel of the enemy army, who, after heavy losses suffered in this area, were forced to retreat beyond the territory of the LPR - in the Grigorovka region (a part of the territory of the DPR occupied by the Armed Forces of Ukraine).





The liberation of Belogorovka by Russian troops is not just the liberation of another settlement in Donbass. It is also getting the opportunity to move towards Seversk from the western direction on a wider front. At the same time, in the direction of this city from the south (after the liberation of Soledar), assault groups of the Wagner PMC are advancing. The day before, Russian soldiers liberated the village of Nikolaevka, which is about 12 km (in a straight line) from the outskirts of Seversk. From Belogorovka to Seversk is about the same distance.
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  1. +15
    February 3 2023
    Good news. However, this months-long butting for the settlement leads to conclusions. Either our forces and means are still not sufficient, or the planning of operations is below the plinth
    1. +7
      February 3 2023
      There is no point in taking Belogorovka without taking Seversk. But they didn’t take Seversk either because the Armed Forces of Ukraine are throwing them from the surrounding heights. There it is necessary to take the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine which are on a hill around Seversk.
      1. +5
        February 3 2023
        Quote: Sergey T19
        There is no point in taking Belogorovka without taking Seversk.


        The enemy needed Belogorovka to provide the rear and flank during the attack on Kremennaya. But this plan has long been thrown into the scrap, and holding on to this ledge, taking into account the immediate prospects for the surrender of Seversk, does not make any sense for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
        1. +1
          February 3 2023
          Quote: tihonmarine
          The enemy needed Belogorovka to provide the rear and flank during the attack on Kremennaya. But this plan has long been thrown into the scrap, and holding on to this ledge, taking into account the immediate prospects for the surrender of Seversk, for the Armed Forces of Ukraine no longer makes any sense.

          But now there is an opportunity to go to the rear of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which roam the flint forests. And the most interesting thing is that this opportunity appeared in exactly the same place where, at the crossing over the Seversky Donets, then the Ukrainians unwound our group into the trash. Only in the opposite direction - now our forces will be transported from the right to the left bank.
      2. +2
        February 3 2023
        Look at the map - there are chances to take Seversk into the ring before Bakhmut, Wagner's assaults are moving very well from the south
    2. 0
      February 3 2023
      Quote from: dmi.pris1
      .Either our forces and means are still not enough, or the planning of operations is below the plinth


      You obviously graduated from the Academy of the General Staff. Why do you only have 2 options? The General Staff, who graduated from the Academy, will have a hundred of them.
      1. +2
        February 3 2023
        And because of that, a hundred options will be typed, they could not take it for several months.
        1. -1
          February 3 2023
          Quote from Deon59
          And because of that, a hundred options will be typed, they could not take it for several months.


          The General Staff officer will always choose one of hundreds of options, but the best one. I'm afraid that it is not the General Staff officers who choose in the NVO, but politicians .... whose level of knowledge does not exceed the local commentators.
          1. +1
            February 3 2023
            Quote: Carat
            The General Staff officer will always choose one of hundreds of options, but the best one.

            You can immediately see the thinking of a member of the General Staff.
            1. +5
              February 3 2023
              As in the "Hussar ballad":
              - By the way, I have a plan for one sortie ...
              - And immediately the plan ... It looks like you are a staff ... (c)

              And in the same place:
              - Again headquarters!? They'd better send vodka! (With)
          2. 0
            February 3 2023
            ... smart general staff officer ...
            Sorry, I'm not smart enough to write a normal comment
        2. +2
          February 3 2023
          Couldn't or didn't want to request
          Perhaps the turn of Belogorovka has just come.
          And so Artyomovsk, Avdeevka and Ugledar are already actually surrounded. The mouse won't jump. Maryinka, Seversk and Gulyaipole are surrounded. Soon there will be no more going out.
          1. 0
            February 3 2023
            Quote: igorbrsv
            And so Artyomovsk, Avdeevka and Ugledar are already actually surrounded. The mouse won't jump.


            Yes, you can drag the volume of an elephant ..... and they drag it through.
    3. +1
      February 3 2023
      the enemy holds out as long as there is equipment and reserves in manpower. Apparently, they threw reserves there, because they wanted to support the attack on Kremennaya from the south
    4. 0
      February 3 2023
      Yes, good, albeit not quickly but surely we are moving forward and this pleases. Moreover, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are expecting more significant troubles in the near future after the inevitable fall of Ugledar and Artemovsk.
    5. +4
      February 3 2023
      Or a bet on the grinding of enemy personnel. You can take cities by storm and suffer more losses than the defenders. It is possible to conduct a mobile war and blockade cities, but this requires millions of groups. Therefore, such a tactic, with it, the enemy, in order to hold the fortified areas, suffers multiple losses and loses reserves due to our fire superiority. Therefore, there are two options, to knock out the enemy from the territories and there is the option of destroying the army. Nothing new under the sun. Even the method was. Two armies go out into an open field and, according to the results, the winner takes everything. You inflict unacceptable losses on the enemy and take the territory automatically.
      1. +1
        February 3 2023
        There is no continuous line of defense in the NMD, which is why it differs from the Second World War, there are focal strongholds and maneuvering movements to envelop and squeeze out the enemy. All of ours pay tribute to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they competently build defense and each focal point covers the sector of another point, i.e. cross hold.
        1. -1
          February 3 2023
          There is no continuous line of defense in the NMD, which is why it differs from the Second World War, there are focal strongholds ...

          Ukrainians in the Kharkiv region clearly showed how to deal with such a system of "defense" ... and even before the attack on the right bank of the Kherson region, when they attacked in the direction of Dudchany ...

          why the valiant command of the other side, hung with all sorts of orders and medals for taking the plywood Reichstag, cannot take advantage of this, it is not clear ...

          2. shunting movements of diesel locomotives ... and we have stupid and primitive frontal assaults for the most part ... because it makes no sense for generals to take care of soldiers, Medvedev's sons do not serve there, but they have something to regret for simple ones ... hence the endless frontal lobovukhs on Avdeevka , and the legendary three-time crossing of the Donets on the terrain shot by the Ukrainians ... not to mention the assault on Pavlovka for the sake of the stars by Akhmetov-Muradov ...
          1. +3
            February 3 2023
            Bggg)))
            Here you are touched by months repeated by the military Ukur-military bloggers ... infantile stories about "frontal attacks"wassat
            Where? When? From the words of the Kuyevo cartographer, a fisherman, an alcoholic Sladkov, senior sneakers, padalyaks and other clerks who have not been allowed to go to the front lines since the summer of last year? And as a result, they reprint ukroTGeshki in parallel, sucking the analytics out of the 21st finger, and the aching layman believes.
          2. +1
            February 3 2023
            Nikolai310, finally got to the point of invisibility?
            Grunt more, 5 hryvnias have not yet been worked out.
            Where were the "frontal attacks", examples, faets? How dumb? And the number of destroyed enemy teheiki in 25000+ units (more than in WWI + Vietnamese + Iraqi dvkh all together) for 25 ARMIES where? And more than 400 thousand exterminated ukrovoyaks and at least 32 thousand dead NATO mercenaries, according to Western OSINT, where did they come from in October? Moreover, the HSR losses for the first 7 months of the NWO were only 5937 chk, and thanks to the most severe bureaucracy, we take into account every dead person in all wars, even in an order of magnitude more complex times of the past than now.
            1. +2
              February 3 2023
              Quote: Sarmat Sanych
              Moreover, the HSR losses for the first 7 months of the NWO were only 5937 chk, and thanks to the most severe bureaucracy, we take into account every dead person in all wars, even in an order of magnitude more complex times of the past than now.

              I do not know what to say. I see a friend’s mistake, but I don’t know how to comment culturally.
              1. -1
                February 3 2023
                Quote: haron
                I see a friend’s mistake, but I don’t know how to comment culturally.

                If a comrade, then you can not comment, in a personal is better.
      2. +2
        February 3 2023
        And you can use carpet bombing. hi "" "" "
        1. -1
          February 3 2023
          to use carpet bombing, air supremacy is necessary ... and it is only in Konashenkov's fairy tales ...
          1. -2
            February 3 2023
            good hi "" "" "" ""
          2. +3
            February 3 2023
            don't listen to this fool Nikolay310
          3. +3
            February 3 2023
            Quote: Nikolay310
            air supremacy is needed.

            Those. Banderlog air supremacy? Why don't they use carpet bombing then? The air defense of Kyiv, or at least Kharkov, can be overloaded with decoys, etc. After that, everything will be demolished. Yes, in general, turn off EMP forever and smear it, but you will be the first to drag photos of thousands of torn children here.
          4. -2
            February 3 2023
            Quote: Nikolay310
            to use carpet bombing, air supremacy is necessary ... and it is only in Konashenkov's fairy tales ...

            Where are you going to use carpet bombing, to solve what problems and hit what targets? I hope, not in the version in which they were used before by the United States, England or Japan.
            Do you understand what "carpet bombing" is?
            1. -3
              February 7 2023
              Well, it would be nice to apply in Warsaw and London.
        2. 0
          February 3 2023
          In order to use carpet bombing, it is necessary to suppress the air defense of the Khokhlobanderites, otherwise there will be large losses in aviation, which we don’t have a lot of anyway.
          1. +1
            February 3 2023
            Quote: Vyacheslav Rud
            In order to use carpet bombing, it is necessary to suppress the air defense of the Khokhlobanderites, otherwise there will be large losses in aviation, which we don’t have a lot of anyway.

            The cynical logic of war - we pity the pilots and aircraft, but at the same time we have to pay for this pity with the lives of tankers and infantry with numerous equipment.
            1. 0
              February 3 2023
              Well, if you don’t mention the human reserve, then the cost of a tank and an aircraft is disproportionate.
    6. -2
      February 3 2023
      Quote from: dmi.pris1
      Either our forces and means are still not sufficient, or the planning of operations is below the plinth

      Rather the second. Planning is like in 1941. Stormtroopers are exterminated, and these are volunteers, ideological passionaries-defenders of the Motherland, there will be no others. And since we do not have a state ideology, then Prigozhin will exhaust the real defenders. request
      1. -1
        February 3 2023
        planning what like in 1941? gestures of goodwill, grain deals and other ammonia pipelines? yes, just 1 in 1 ...

        I want to remind you that the Germans had a strategic initiative in the 41st, for whom they had the experience of fighting and capturing Europe in a matter of months, an overwhelming advantage in the sky due to a competent operation in the first hours of the war, modern equipment and the FIRST army in the world ... what ukrov have any of this? even by the end of the first year of the war with all NATO nishtyaks, they are considered FIFTEENTH in the world, with an almost complete absence of aviation ... in addition, it was Russia that had the strategic advantage of the first step, it was Russia that had every chance to achieve air supremacy, from which it she refused...

        Russia, unlike the Union, had all the trump cards up its sleeve ... but as it turned out, some of the trump cards were simply drawn on various forums in the form of mock-ups and posters, and some did not even try to use when, instead of knocking out air defense, they fired at Kharkov from cheerful reports about the destruction of hundreds of Krakenites at a time ... and then in the same Kharkov they assembled a shock fist, which in three days was thrown out of those places that were taken with blood and then for three weeks ....

        in addition, during the first 11 months of the War, the Soviet army was continuously re-equipped, instead of those absurdities that met the Germans in border battles, there was a massive supply of 34-k to the troops (which, by the way, were also modernized in accordance with the development of German technology), the same IL- 2 ... and not in the amount of as many as four pieces, like the royal clown's wedge robot ...

        and lastly, don’t remind me what happened to General Pavlov and some other generals in the first months of the fighting? and what happened to the "hero" of crossing the Seversky Donets three times in one place or another prominent commander who lined up Russian elite units in parade columns near Kyiv and the result of which was a record in the "military informant" group that out of 10 news, only one ... Serdyukov now commands parades in Syria, and Lapin is the head of something there ... well, one in one 41st year is just ...
        1. +1
          February 3 2023
          Quote: Nikolay310
          it was Russia who had every chance to achieve air supremacy

          Do you propose to start shooting down US planes and satellites?
          1. 0
            February 3 2023
            Quote: Dart2027
            Do you propose to start shooting down US planes and satellites?

            I propose to plan and conduct a powerful air operation using all diverse forces to identify and destroy enemy air defenses. Unless, of course, our General Staff is capable of this ... Which I very much doubt
            1. +4
              February 3 2023
              Our General Staff cut through a land corridor to the Crimea, privatized the Sea of ​​Azov, slammed from 200 to 400 thousand (according to the West and PRC intelligence) stoned, knocking out a whole generation. It is strange to doubt his abilities, if in all cases we win, both territorially, in strategic key objects of the economy, and in the disposal of personnel. In general, the state of Ukraine, as an independent state with an economy, no longer exists. The main subsoil with fossils is seized in favor of Russia. Question. Few? Are you in a hurry somewhere? Since the tactics bring positive results, the cemeteries of the ragul are growing, a multiple of our losses, why change something? From the goodness of the beaver is not looking laughing
            2. +2
              February 3 2023
              Quote: Gritsa
              I propose to plan and conduct a powerful air operation using all diverse forces to identify and destroy enemy air defenses

              The enemy's air defense works according to data from NATO, and to destroy it, you need to shoot down aircraft and satellites of NATO countries.
        2. 0
          February 3 2023
          Nikolai310, tell me, be kind, how do you get into the bag in the dark when you poop? Feel, right?
          Come on, Ukrainians, don't be upset that Mozart is leaving! But Wagner remains!
          It doesn’t matter that a hundred HRVs with a small grouping defeats the total military potential of the entire billion-strong NATO, it doesn’t matter that we have 1:80 losses to the enemy, it doesn’t matter that with all due respect to the Red Army, the Union in the Second World War lost a catastrophic 30 million and for this, everything had to be put to the wall forward with brains that leadership starting with Dzhugashvili. It is important that no one has been able to take even a meter of land from us over the past decades, and Russia is the only one of the 224 countries on the planet that has been increasing its land in the 2008st century, and since 100 continuously, and even by force. All "Ukraine" before the start of the NWO is the territory of the NATO bloc, they didn’t take at least a meter of land from us, but the ASR from the USA + NATO took 40% of the Sea of ​​\u4b\u100bAzov, 223% of the Black Sea and 1 regions of "Ukraine" even with this incomplete area of ​​\u150b\uXNUMXbXNUMX thousand square kilometers (almost the size of England). Fantastic. The humanity of the other XNUMX countries looks at us and admires, someone hates someone rejoices, but everyone admires us. And only cissobots and a microscopic part of domestic late Soviet educated people (XNUMX% of the XNUMX million population of the Russian Federation) continue to whine in one of the small chats, thinking that someone is interested.
          PS Analysis of the fake near Belogorovka, where the Russian Armed Forces exterminated the Ukrainian group without their own losses:
          https://www.russiapost.su/archives/290757
        3. +5
          February 3 2023
          Nikolai310, there were no "agreements". They were invented by military hysterics.
          Everything else is also stupid nonsense from the training manual. Based on WHAT facts? poked out of your nose?
          What minks? Are you an addict?
          One of the most powerful in the world, the Rosatom Cyber ​​Brain of the General Staff in Sarov and Moscow time online calculates the optimal recycling scheme. And he doesn’t share it with beauty bloggers))
          Garland Nixon: "The Russians have built a compactor (garbage recycling system) for NATO weapons and are laughing. No, don't send tanks to Ukraine, this is a red line. No, don't send F-16s, it's terrible! Don't throw a rabbit in thorn bushes!"
          By the way, what about the experts who argued “only about whether the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be able to occupy Donetsk and Luhansk by the end of winter, as well as regain control over Crimea, or will they still have to wait until April”?

          There was never a single agreement, gestures too - under the "gesture", for example, there was the delivery of ammunition to our detached units, diplomacy put this up as a "gesture of goodwill", a difficult decision to continue to plead with Satanists with minimal losses - absolutely correct, you see, you are against saving lives our soldiers. Minsk allowed us to deceive America and NATO, and prepare both militarily and economically for 2022, which we were not ready for in 2014, and then we would have definitely lost the global confrontation, you and your family would have been cut out for 8 years, and your ears children fed to you before a painful death
          "If there is a political decision to fight, then the calculations are correct and the Ukrainians have zero chances."
          Damn it, we have already killed almost 400k ukrov "not wanting to fight", devastated NATO's military potential also "without fighting", which even Stoltenberg had to admit https://www.rbc.ru/politics/10/01/… Of course there is no decision to fight, because some Kolya310 burped something from the sofa: D And how can we breed ours if we have never been able to breed them?
        4. +3
          February 3 2023
          Quote: Nikolay310
          I want to remind you that the Germans had a strategic initiative in 41, for whom they had experience in fighting and capturing Europe

          Do you want to remember the counterattacks of the Red Army? It was a strange question. fool
          THE FIRST ARMY IN THE WORLD..
          My young friend, you were still walking, and everyone knew that in 1939 the French, Polish and request Red Army. Another thing is that Germany was allowed to take the military-industrial complex of Czechoslovakia, the Bank of Austria, and then it went downhill .... request
          which of these do ukrov have? even by the end of the first year of the war with all NATO nishtyaks, they are considered FIFTEENTH in the world, with an almost complete absence of aviation ..
          fool Don't say "hoop!" A nightmare, but it is very real. Tomorrow you wake up, and at the RuinyTanks in the barn there are capes, Fy16 and Fy35 quacking on the perches, and "wild geese" like those ... from Africa and Latin America, on the highway. And what are we going to do baby? This is all really possible, just stupidly waiting for our breath to die out. Maybe we will carry out the second mobilization, and the third, exactly 0 .... Already by that time we won’t believe Putin .... Thanks to Shoigu and Prigogine, no matter how they dogged.
          instead of those absurdities that met the Germans in the border battles, there was a massive supply of 34-k to the troops (which, by the way, were also modernized in accordance with the development of German technology)
          Knowledge gives culture, culture gives respect for ancestors, respect gives fear that everything will return to you a hundredfold (do not judge, but you will not be judged fool ) But you stumbled on the first step ..... no knowledge .... In 1941, we had so many "absurdities" only like the T-34 and KV-1-2 that we could throw the Germans out in 24 hours. But the inept command and lack of logistics, or rather transport, led to the death of the materiel. There were no powerful vehicles for the delivery of fuel. But the mechanics were not reliable and they drove her into endless marches of 100-200-300-500 km. But. and the real betrayal of the generals, including Pavlov, Kirpanos, and so on.
    7. +5
      February 3 2023
      The news is specifically worded in such a way as to amuse people like you.
      Being near the city for many months, conducting sluggish skirmishes and actively storming the city for several months are two different things.
  2. +4
    February 3 2023
    Well done brothers. Keep it up. The main thing is without fuss and haste. Planned, step by step. Wagnerites are generally a separate power. The Ukronats are now afraid of them, more than the Chechens from Akhmat, at the beginning of the NWO.)))
    1. +2
      February 3 2023
      Quote: Vovanych007
      Wagnerites are generally a separate power. The Ukronats are now afraid of them, more than the Chechens from Akhmat, at the beginning of the NWO.)))


      There are now more than 30 thousand Wagnerites and there is a long line to become them. But Akhmat fell silent. It doesn't even show up in the listings.
      1. +7
        February 3 2023
        Quote: Carat
        There are now more than 30 thousand Wagnerites and there is a long line to become them. But Akhmat fell silent. It doesn't even show up in the listings.

        That's exactly what is "calmed down" in the reports. Just not on the battlefield
        1. 0
          February 3 2023
          Quote: Volodin
          That's exactly what is "calmed down" in the reports. Just not on the battlefield


          If this is indeed the case, then that is good news. And then you know what impression you get.
      2. +2
        February 3 2023
        Quote: Carat
        But Akhmat fell silent. It doesn't even show up in the listings.

        Literally yesterday or the day before yesterday, on one of the central TV channels there was a video report about the actions of one of the units of the "Akhmatovites" ...
        1. -1
          February 3 2023
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          , on one of the central TV channels there was a video report on the actions of one of the units of the "Akhmatovtsy" ...


          What village did they take, how much dill did they plant in the ground?
      3. -1
        February 3 2023
        Quote: Carat
        But Akhmat fell silent. It doesn't even show up in the listings.

        But sofa warriors are always on guard, they will immediately notice and appreciate who is "calm down" and who is more active smile
  3. +1
    February 3 2023
    Seversk is clamped from three sides, the arc is slowly compressed. The scheme worked out in Soledar is used both here and in Artyomovsk. The only question is whether Bandera will leave, or the Soledar massacre will be repeated in each case.
    1. 0
      February 3 2023
      Quote from Pharmacist
      The only question is whether Bandera will leave, or the Soledar massacre will be repeated in each case.


      Better to repeat. Destroy here and now. Ukraine said back in February last year that after the Battle of Donbass there would be a Battle for the Dnieper. But they are not needed there.
    2. +3
      February 3 2023
      Yesterday I saw a map (to mine Rybar). What's embarrassing. Judging by the layout of APUs in the cities themselves (Bakhmut and Seversk), there are not so many. The main concentration of forces on the flanks is on the heights. This is what I am for. There is no doubt about Wagner's success, but it is optimistic to expect that the entire grouping of 20 brigades will be encircled.
      1. 0
        February 3 2023
        The high efficiency of the Wagner is associated with the command skills of command and UAVs.
  4. +1
    February 3 2023
    It is very difficult to liberate settlements. The higher the price of each victory.
    1. -1
      February 3 2023
      Speed ​​is not important here, conclusions are drawn, and no one needs to take settlements from unprepared swoops, as it was at an early stage of the SVO, now they are taking it thoroughly and forever.
      1. +3
        February 3 2023
        no one needs a quick capture of settlements ??? it is necessary slowly, thoroughly and with complete destruction .... ingeniously ...

        I’ll tell you a secret, Kupyansk and Volchansk surrendered not because they were taken on a swoop and decided that it was wrong ... now if they storm Kupyansk again (which I doubt very much), a bunch of corpses will be laid there and the city will be destroyed ... but thoroughly and forever ... instead of a stupid attack, which saved both the soldier and the city
      2. -1
        February 3 2023
        settlements are taken "slowly" because the fortified areas are equipped there thanks to 8 years of driving by the nose, you know who, and not because some conclusions were made
        1. +2
          February 3 2023
          "they take" leisurely "because the fortified areas are equipped there thanks to the 8-year-old"
          can you show at least one "fortified area"? what fortified area can be placed in a farm with an area of ​​3 sq. km? how many enemy soldiers can be accommodated in such an area that they can be stormed for a long time and slowly for several months? and how is it to storm "slowly"?
          1. +1
            February 3 2023
            3 sq. km is three kilometers wide and one deep. How long does it take to clear one block? There are no such rules
          2. -1
            February 3 2023
            Quote: aglet
            "they take" leisurely "because the fortified areas are equipped there thanks to the 8-year-old"
            can you show at least one "fortified area"? what fortified area can be placed in a farm with an area of ​​3 sq. km? how many enemy soldiers can be accommodated in such an area that they can be stormed for a long time and slowly for several months? and how is it to storm "slowly"?

            I recommend that you ask what a "fortified area" is, otherwise you look ridiculous.
  5. +1
    February 3 2023
    Quote from: dmi.pris1
    Good news. However, this months-long butting for the settlement leads to conclusions. Either our forces and means are still not sufficient, or the planning of operations is below the plinth

    Conclusions none of those present here with a probability of 99.9% is not able to do by definition. Is that at the level of assumptions and conjectures.
    1. 0
      February 3 2023
      but where can the orphans and the poor come to the conclusion that in the General Staff, everything is going according to plan and ahead of schedule ... this is only a particularly gifted 0,01 percent in a state ... I wonder if you are one of this number?
    2. -2
      February 3 2023
      Quote: Tagan
      Quote from: dmi.pris1
      Good news. However, this months-long butting for the settlement leads to conclusions. Either our forces and means are still not sufficient, or the planning of operations is below the plinth

      Conclusions none of those present here with a probability of 99.9% is not able to do by definition. Is that at the level of assumptions and conjectures.

      With all due respect, I understand that they expressed the thought inaccurately, meaning "conclusions" of a different nature. And so everyone makes conclusions for themselves, everywhere and always, and the objectivity and value of these conclusions for their authors approaches 100%. Even regarding the subject of discussion and the situation with the NWO as a whole. Well, in general, this is the essence of all these movements in the comments - the friction of conclusions and their transformation in the process)
  6. +5
    February 3 2023
    I am surprised by the comments from the series "why it takes so long to release"! Yes, you all understand! The Second World War lasted 4 (3 years 10 months and 18 days). And the non-state "Ukraine" existed for 30 years! Who do you want to free there?! The bulk of the Vushniks did not live under the USSR and know about it from Bandera's fairy tales!
    Sincerely
    1. +4
      February 3 2023
      Quote: nobody75
      The bulk of the Vushniks did not live under the USSR and know about it from Bandera's fairy tales!

      The US is focusing on this.
  7. 0
    February 3 2023
    to put it mildly, the unsuccessful operation to cross the Seversky Donets in the same place THREE times with a bunch of destroyed equipment ... fully showed the extraordinary talent of one eternally innocent generalissimo, which Prigozhin and Kadyrov then went through great ... it’s strange that this La ... they constantly recall the collapse of the Kharkov front, but do not remember this "heroic" forcing
    1. 0
      February 3 2023
      And also the ingeniously thought-out defense of Izyum and Liman, Izyum surrendered without a fight, and Liman merged in a week after stubborn battles
  8. +3
    February 3 2023
    Quote: Carat
    Quote from: dmi.pris1
    .Either our forces and means are still not enough, or the planning of operations is below the plinth


    You obviously graduated from the Academy of the General Staff.

    Grow to the highest ranks in VO, too, do you know what kind of experience you need to have!))
  9. +4
    February 3 2023
    It is also getting the opportunity to move towards Seversk on a wider front with western directions.

    Judging by the combat situation, not only from the western direction, there is no way to go there even from the northwestern direction. Or is the entire territory north of Seversk already under the control of our fighters, at least to the Liman itself, but we didn’t know?
    1. +1
      February 3 2023
      And here Belogorovka and the north-west of Seversk is unknown. But through Zakotnoye the road, to the west, should already be shot through. And she is the last from Seversk
    2. +1
      February 3 2023
      Quote: Semak
      Judging by the combat situation, not only from the western direction, there is no way to go there even from the northwestern direction. Or is the entire territory north of Seversk under the control of our fighters, at least to Liman itself, but we don’t know

      Some authors of articles suffer from so-called "geographical cretinism". Forgive them sick...
  10. +4
    February 3 2023
    Belogorovka, it seems, is on the right bank of the Seversky Donets ...
    1. +3
      February 3 2023
      The author looks to the west, and in this perspective the city is on his left bank. "Geography is a coachman's science..."
  11. 0
    February 3 2023
    This pleases, considering that we do not have advantages by any indicators, and we are advancing anyway, says a lot. We all scold the generals, but it’s not some kind of Arabs who are fighting against us, who, at the first shot, run with their heels sparkling, as stubborn as we are and still advancing. And the war today is the first of its kind, when nothing can be hidden, something can be secretly transferred, as it was in previous wars.
  12. +4
    February 3 2023
    Quote: Nikolay310
    but where can the orphans and the poor come to the conclusion that in the General Staff, everything is going according to plan and ahead of schedule ... this is only a particularly gifted 0,01 percent in a state ... I wonder if you are one of this number?

    Not very surprised that here every gopher in the field is an agronomist. I can say one thing: I am not from the fan troops, like some.
  13. +3
    February 3 2023
    Why are we not level with the ground? Do civilians live there? So much time there are hostilities, but they live and go about their business as if nothing had happened? Where are the carpet bombings? What is trench warfare? Make an ultimatum, report on world platforms so that everyone is aware, give 2 days to exit, and then level it with the ground! Why are we destroying our guys with these trench wars?
    1. +2
      February 3 2023
      it is there that they level it with the ground, these cities are erased to dust, some will not even be rebuilt
    2. 0
      February 3 2023
      Quote: shurik-063
      Make an ultimatum, report on world platforms so that everyone is aware, give 2 days to exit, and then level it with the ground!

      With what? We don't have earthmovers. All remained on the Zvezda TV channel
  14. +4
    February 3 2023
    Where does this information come from? There was not a word in the cart, it looks like someone was in a hurry once again. A year passes, we stand, we grind, 300 m - 1 km. Do we have fighters talking? No losses? They again throw SRW on the front end, the combat units are saved for the spring. I don’t even want to think about regrouping the next ones.
  15. +2
    February 3 2023
    Quote: Sarmat Sanych
    And more than 400 thousand exterminated ukrovoyaks and at least 32 thousand dead NATO mercenaries

    Write 600 thousand and at least 60 thousand mercenaries
    No. 900 thousand and 90 thousand mercenaries. So cool.
    And three cameras. And a cigarette case. Three.
  16. +3
    February 3 2023
    Quote: Sarmat Sanych
    our losses are 1:80 to the enemy


    Source to the studio or is it empty chatter. Konashenkov not to offer.

    we have over the last decades

    The question is removed.
    Decades from what edge???? belay From below? Sideways? Hand face fool
    For everyone else. It's been noted for a long time. If a person tries to speak not in Russian, but in a "fashionable" language - he ... let's put it mildly ... will not say anything good.
  17. -1
    February 3 2023
    Just the military doctrine of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is the bottom. No offense but it's a fact.
    First of all, I’m talking about the cardboard armor of the BMP2 and the weak armament of the vehicle, the shortage of guided art projectiles
  18. +1
    February 3 2023
    When a person does not know how to do it right, he has a hundred different options. A good specialist and analyst has a maximum of two such options!
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