Project 22350M frigates of the Russian Navy will receive ultra-long-range anti-aircraft guided missiles

Located in the Naval fleet Russian Federation project 22350M frigates, which are armed with ship-based anti-aircraft missile systems "Polyment-Redut", will receive anti-aircraft guided missiles (SAM) with a range of up to 400 km. This is reported by TASS with reference to a source in the Russian military-industrial complex.

Currently, the Poliment-Redut complex can use anti-aircraft missiles with a range of 150 kilometers. Thus, the range of the complex will more than double, which will affect the combat capability of the frigates and the effectiveness of their combat use.

As the TASS, citing a source in the military-industrial complex, an almost three-fold increase in the interception range of air targets will allow Russian frigates to be able to destroy NATO airborne early warning and control aircraft. Long-range missiles will be launched from the cells of the universal ship firing system (UKKS) 3S14.

Currently, the frigate "Admiral Gorshkov", for example, has 2 UKKS for 16 missiles. On frigates, starting with the ship "Admiral Amelko", which is the fifth in the project, four systems will already be installed, designed for eight missiles each. It is known that they are going to lay the lead frigate of project 22350M in 2023.

In total, Russia expects to build 12 modernized Project 22350M frigates, which should significantly increase the combat capability of the Russian Navy against the backdrop of current events.

Comments

[Pavel57]

32 cells is also not much. It is necessary to divide between anti-ship missiles, anti-aircraft defense and air defense missiles.

[-Paul-]

This is a frigate. If you want more, you need to build destroyers and cruisers.

[lucul]

This is a frigate. If you want more, you need to build destroyers and cruisers.

Not that interesting - there is no smoke without fire. That ours invented something new in target designation that they put such long-range missiles on the ship. Let me remind you that the horizon of the ship's line of sight is 30 km.
For a 400 km target engagement range, it is required that the target be very high in the sky (15-20 km), or external target designation from Pion NKS, or from an AWACS aircraft, or from an UAV performing AWACS functions.

[ramzay21]

We need the largest possible series of frigate 22350 in the version with four UKKS. This is the only way to saturate our fleet with a minimum number of modern and combat-ready ships, and besides, the series will significantly reduce the cost of these ships.
But the laying of 22350M, as well as attempts to push through other frigates or corvettes at the price of frigates, is sabotage and sabotage, and it has only two goals: reducing the combat capability of our already incompetent fleet and the personal gain of creatures who sucked on people's money like Chemezov, the former commanders-in-chief of the Navy, who settled in the USC and the current commander in chief.

[Krivobokoff]

Now Gorshkov alone is trying to nightmare amers with zircons, and don’t pick our leadership’s nose, now Nakhimov and Kuznetsov could be calm with Gorshkov. Yet it was real. And there was time and heaps of oil dollars that were allocated for this.

[Egeny]

Well, ship upgrades are always welcome. First, the launchers will be built in, then the missiles will be replaced for the future.

[Romario_Argo]

What ours invented new in target designation

for about 50 years, the ZGRLS Monolith, Monument, Mineral, Positive have been in service
in passive mode, they issue target designation at a distance of 750 km (export)
NPO Typhoon, Kaluga, Moscow Region
- MRK pr.1234 ZGRLS Monolith
- MRKater pr.1241 ZGRLS Monolith
- MRK pr.21361 ZGRLS Pozitiv-M1
- MRK pr.22800 ZGRLS Mineral-M
- Destroyer pr.956 ZGRLS Mineral
- Frigates pr.22350 ZGRLS Monolith

[Johnson Smithson]

For 400km target range, the target is required to be very high in the sky (15-20km)

if AWACS sees the ship, then he sees it

with an aircraft flight altitude of 8-9 km, it will be visible for 400 km
https://www.translatorscafe.com/unit-converter/ru-RU/calculator/radar-horizon/

[Romario_Argo]

AWACS E-2D Hawkeye has a mask detection height of 35 km,
Anti-ship missiles Zircon flies at an altitude of 60-70 km diving at the target at an angle of 75-90 degrees
EPR RCC Zircon about 0,001 sq.m. sm-radar will detect anti-ship missiles Zircon for 20 km
the speed of anti-ship missiles Zircon is about 3 km / s. - flying time 6,5 seconds
hardware processing of the BIUS Aegis target on Arleigh Burke destroyers at least 8 seconds - tryndets Burkam

[Consultant]

Isn't this classified information?

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Romario_Argo

RCC Zircon flies at an altitude of 60-70 km

And so what? Why 60-70 and not 90-100!? Or was the imagination not enough? I have only one question for the "understanding": And where will the ramjet take oxygen at an altitude of 70 km ??? will he get it out of the airborne can? - well, then you can drive it even 100 km ... what will happen to him with an autonomous supply of oxidizer !!!

[alexoff]

You can also assume target designation from a ship 100 km away. Or not from a ship, if, for example, a ship covers Vladivostok with its air defense and it receives data from ground-based radars. And you can also shoot at American ArcLight medium-range missiles, they probably take off high and are visible from afar

[Denis812]

Well, they did that to Liana.
Probably made sure it works.
The usual AWACS is also an option.
And we don’t seem to have such UAV AWACS.

[Sergey39]

Frigate 22350M, meets your wishes. It has 48 slots for dissimilar missiles and 64 slots for air defense missiles.

[incognoto]

we need UVP for all types of missiles .. the states and China have chosen this path .. and we are inventing a bicycle

[Sergey39]

Controversial question. Both are good. On our 22350 M frigates, launch complexes for missiles are planned to be placed both on the forecastle and stern of the ship.

[B-15]

If 32 containers of the Redoubt are not touched, then it will turn out well. There will be three blocks of launch containers: 32, 32 and 16 mines.
Long-range combined with shock. And at 150 km, there are other 32 mines for 32 or 128 anti-aircraft missiles. Plus Palash. So it won't seem like much.

[YOUR]

Wow, how great. There are as many as 128 missiles on a tiny boat. Cool.
Question?????? Where will the crew be located and what is the difference between an attack missile and a long-range one ???

[Hog]

tiny boat

A total displacement of 7000+ tons.

Where will the crew be stationed

Yes, everything is in the same building, nothing new has been invented here yet.

an attack missile differs from a long-range one

Well, if you read a little, it turns out that the article is about air defense missiles and the installation of a variant of long-range missiles from the S-22350 at 400m. Drums, as you might guess, are: Onyx, Zircon, Caliber, etc.

[28st region]

Where does this data come from?

Quote: Hog

A total displacement of 7000+ tons.

Standard displacement 4500 tons, total displacement -5400 tons.
Do you know the difference between standard displacement and full displacement?
Standard - a fully manned ship with a crew, complete - a fully manned ship with a crew fully filled with fuel, fuel and water tanks.
Citizen B-15 wrote exclusively about anti-aircraft missiles.
Children sit in front of a computer and invent all sorts of nonsense. Not frigates but spaceships.

[lucul]

Where is this data from? Standard displacement 4500 tons, total displacement -5400 tons.
Do you know the difference between standard displacement and full displacement?

You did not see the letter M in the title)))
22350 -4500 tons, and 22350M-7000 tons.

[28st region]

You should have read the article first. And then they took it with a single stroke and increased the tonnage of the ship by 2000 tons.

[lucul]

You should have read the article first.

I am quoting an article
:

The frigates of the project, which are part of the Navy of the Russian Federation 22350M, which are armed with ship-based anti-aircraft missile systems "Polyment-Redut", will receive anti-aircraft guided missiles (SAM) with a range of up to 400 km.

There are no 22350M ships in the Russian fleet, but only 22350)))

[28st region]

It is known that they are going to lay the lead frigate of project 22350M in 2023.

Quote: lucul

There are no 22350M ships in the Russian fleet, but only 22350)))

That's it. So where did you get that 22350M has a displacement of 7000 tons? All that is known about them is that they will differ in weapons and not in size. An increase by 2000 tons is generally a new project.

[lucul]

So where did you get that 22350M has a displacement of 7000 tons? All that is known about them is that they will differ in weapons and not in size. An increase by 2000 tons is generally a new project.

You obviously do not live in Russia, because every Russian is aware of the 22350M. Enough to score in the search engine.)))

https://topwar.ru/157786-o-fregatah-proekta-22350m-v-svete-poslednih-novostej.html

https://aif-ru.turbopages.org/aif.ru/s/society/army/zolotoy_gorshkov_modernizirovannyy_okeanskiy_fregat_22350m_zalozhat_v_2024

[Toucan]

Quote: lucul

You obviously don't live in Russia

Wow, since when did you become a Russian? Despite the fact that your IP is not Russian.

[militarist63]

You should have read the article first...

Actually, after the title of this article:

Project 22350M frigates of the Russian Navy will receive ultra-long-range anti-aircraft guided missiles

the question arises - is it worth reading further ?! For "ultra-long-range anti-aircraft missiles" do not exist as a class, in general! SAMs (by range) are divided into short-range, short-range, medium-range and long-range. Everything that has a range of more than 200 km (and an altitude of more than 30 km) belongs to the long-range category. No ultra-long ..... no!

[Denis812]

Yeah ... and the current 32 will not be touched, and new 32 will be added.
The cart will be attached to the back of the ship, and they will put it there :)
There is nowhere else to shove 32 containers there. Either checkers or go.
Therefore, the containers are universal, because you yourself choose how to fill them.

[solar]

Anti-aircraft missiles are not installed in UKKS 3S14. These are cells for cruise, anti-ship and anti-submarine missiles.

[novel66]

Long-range missiles will be launched from the cells of the universal ship firing system (UKKS) 3S14.

What is this?

[Alex777]

Quote from solar

Anti-aircraft missiles are not installed in UKKS 3S14. These are cells for cruise, anti-ship and anti-submarine missiles.

You are wrong. It is in them that long-range air defense missiles will be placed.
And now they can install 9M96 packages.

[incognoto]

that's exactly why I wrote that universal PU is best ..

[solar]

There is a big difference between "will put" and "stand".
At the moment, long-range missiles are not installed in 3S14.
Stories about what will be staged for many years, but they remain stories.
3S14 is not designed for missiles.

[Alex777]

UKKS-M were developed with the modification of Nakhimov.
Ask how much they cost and do not argue.

Quote from solar

At the moment, long-range missiles are not installed in 3S14.

Only because long-range missiles do not yet exist in service.

Quote from solar

3S14 is not designed for missiles.

Intended. All the nuances of cold and hot start were solved several years ago.

[solar]

Give a link to an official statement that any anti-aircraft missiles, at least medium-range, at least long-range, are actually installed and used in 3S14.
There is a lot of gossip about this, but there is no real information about it.

[bayard]

Greetings to Alexander.
It seems that the rumors turned out to be not rumors and they decided to shove heavy missiles into 22350M. And this means that the radar will also be new, larger and more powerful, most likely based on the S-500 MFRS (to which the S-400 divisions are now being re-equipped). And such a radar and heavy missiles lead us to a VI ship of 10 - 000 tons. , which generally raises the question of reclassifying this ship into a destroyer or even a cruiser ... and about changing the index, because there is almost nothing left of the base 22350. But ... such was the evolution of engineering and the will of the customer ...
I really want to look at this project, how they decided the issue of line-up and placement of radar canvases, whether they will shove heavy missiles instead of attack missiles, or they will place UKKS for so-called missiles separately, say on the waist ...
And which power plant was chosen for him ... although with such a VI, the M70FRU + M90FR turbocouple will also be enough. And it looks like she was also finished.

[Alex777]

Quote: bayard

Greetings to Alexander.

Mutually!

Quote: bayard

It seems that the rumors turned out to be not rumors and they decided to shove heavy missiles into 22350M.

They should have been finished for Nakhimov. He has a status.
Perhaps the delays were related to this as well.

Quote: bayard

And this means that the radar will also be new, larger and more powerful, most likely based on the S-500 MFRS

Yes. RLC is no longer Poliment.
But what exactly - I do not dare to guess.

Quote: bayard

And such a radar and heavy missiles lead us to a VI ship of 10 000 - 12 000 tons, which generally raises the question of reclassifying this ship into a destroyer or even a cruiser

Destroyer. Least. It is because of the missile defense system and the radar.
However, let them call it whatever they want. Just to build. )))

Quote: bayard

And which power plant was chosen for him ... although with such a VI, the M70FRU + M90FR turbocouple will also be enough.

Enemies are already actively planning laser weapons and other innovations.
Energy consumption is increasing dramatically.
And speed over 30 knots is again not a luxury.
I would venture to suggest something like 4 M90FR.

[bayard]

Quote: Alex777

Enemies are already actively planning laser weapons and other innovations.

They have already begun to install these lasers as standard near-field air defense. and they really have progress with impulse power and range.

Quote: Alex777

And speed over 30 knots is again not a luxury.
I would venture to suggest something like 4 M90FR.

On the one hand, it’s easier to increase the torque on the gearbox, but on the other hand ... it’s very uneconomical ... and this will affect autonomy ... But the M90FR is really a used turbine, and although we let it go with gearboxes, but. .. complicating everything right now may not be worth it.
The question is - what to do with frigates now, if there are difficulties with Kolomna semi-domestic diesel engines? But frigates are needed, and a lot of them are needed - I could not even imagine that it was possible to purchase and form such a large Merchant Fleet in such a short time ... they say that they have already purchased under 500 ships. And the safety of their navigation must be ENSURED. And provide it with frigates.
By the way, I just looked - this year not only "Admiral Golovko" can enter service in March, but also "Admiral Isakov" in December , although it has not yet been launched into the water. Indeed, processes have accelerated.

[Alex777]

Quote: bayard

They have already begun to install these lasers as standard near-field air defense. and they really have progress with impulse power and range.

We are not far behind them in terms of lasers. For a 600 kW device, you need more than 1 MW source, as far as I understand ...

Quote: bayard

Merchant Fleet ... they say that they have already purchased under 500 ships. And the safety of their navigation must be ENSURED.

You are on point. The creation of a parallel world trade infrastructure and fleet for the first time, in the modern history of Russia, gives commercial meaning to the construction of an ocean-going navy.
Merchant ships need to be able to defend.
So 8000+ VI ships become a necessity.

[bayard]

Quote: Alex777

We are not far behind them in terms of lasers. For a 600 kW device, you need more than 1 MW source, as far as I understand ...

Apparently incl. and electric propulsion was implemented to power the lasers on Chinese 055s. If ours have the same plans, then a new destroyer with electric propulsion, a radar for heavy missiles and 8 UKKS, will have a VI of the order of 12 - 000 tons. This ship is the core of the KUG, but in the ocean zone.

Quote: Alex777

Merchant ships need to be able to defend.
So 8000+ VI ships become a necessity

Exactly . Therefore, the enlarged "Gorshkov" with two helicopters, the same radar and air defense systems, but with an ammunition load enlarged by 2-3 times, will be an excellent DM and OZ ship to ensure freedom of navigation.
BUT!
To escort such a large Merchant Fleet, more budgetary escort ships are also needed - light escort frigates and PLO.
And the best solution to this problem would be a frigate based on Project 11356 with a SAC from Project 20380, an air defense system "Polyment-Redut", a hangar for two helicopters, two UKKS and "Packet-NK". The power plant on the marching M75RU and the afterburner M70FRU will give 43 l / s when the torque is added. - this is quite enough for a speed of 000 - 28 knots with a VI of 29 tons.
The price of such a frigate is unlikely to exceed 450 million dollars. (this is the cost of the corvette pr. 20385), but will be able not only to escort trade and landing convoys, but also to conduct anti-submarine work in the BMZ and DMZ. at the same time, in the BMZ, he can successfully lead the PLO corvettes based on Karakurt.
You can build light escort / PLO frigates on Yantar, and if necessary (and it will be) on the Amur Shipyard. Such ships will be very relevant for the Black Sea Fleet and the Baltic Fleet, and for the protection of the combat deployment areas of our NSNF and ASW in them, it’s better not to think of it at all.
Etc. 20380 and 20385 showed their irrationality and inflated cost with insufficient autonomy, seaworthiness and combat stability (small BC) ... and even the speed is not enough.
The BMZ light corvette should be a corvette based on the "Karakurt" of a slightly larger VI with a submersible and BUGAS, "Packet-NK" and PLUR in UKKS for 8 - 12 cells. And "Pantsir-M".

[Alex777]

Quote: bayard

Apparently incl. and electric propulsion was implemented to power the lasers on Chinese 055s.

An advanced scheme for those who can implement it.

Quote: bayard

And the best solution to this problem would be a frigate based on pr. 11356

As for me, about 11356 should be forgotten.
When you try to build 2 helicopters into such a small displacement, it just doesn’t work. How many flights of kerosene can be placed there? For 2-3?

Quote: bayard

Light corvette BMZ should be a corvette

20380.

[bayard]

Quote: Alex777

Quote: bayard
Apparently incl. and electric propulsion was implemented to power the lasers on Chinese 055s.

An advanced scheme for those who can implement it.

In general, we implement electric propulsion on all icebreakers, and small associated gas power plants are implemented on gas turbines and steam turbines - through a gas turbine heat exchanger. That is, in civilian life, these technologies (generation and electric propulsion) have long been worked out, but ... this is still a more expensive and complicated undertaking and entails the loss of part of the power on double conversion.

Quote: Alex777

As for me, about 11356 should be forgotten.
When you try to build 2 helicopters into such a small displacement, it just doesn’t work. How many flights of kerosene can be placed there? For 2-3?

"Perry" has two helicopters each, and everything seems to be fine with combat use. True, the movements of our helicopters are more powerful, which means they eat more. But the proposal was made precisely for the purpose of better PLO. In addition, modern PLO helicopters can also work as AWACS thanks to all-round radar - not only for surface, but also for air targets. The Ka-25RTs at one time was quite guided by the deck-based Yak-38 \ 39.

Quote: Alex777

Quote: bayard
Light corvette BMZ should be a corvette
20380.

20380 has no PLUR, and 20385 is too expensive for a ship with such limited capabilities.
1135X (7?) is twice as large as VI, will have much better seaworthiness (this is important for the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbOkhotsk and the Barents Sea), much more ammunition, much greater autonomy, lower range limits for the use of weapons.
And with all this - for the same price (450 million dollars).
And without the de6ile "Barrier" for 8 billion rubles ... only the RLC!
If for the same money you can build a good ship in all respects instead of ... inferior and limited ... Then it's better to build a GOOD ship. And not only as an anti-submarine, but also as a light escort frigate ... reconnaissance in the DMZ ... and even as a universal attack ship (two UKKS).
Another thing is that existing plans and existing orders should not be broken, and everything ordered must be built.

I repeat that my proposal comes from several conditions and circumstances:
- possible problems with the production of Kolomna diesel engines, which means stopping the construction of projects 22350, 20380, 20385, BDK.
- the need to obtain a large number of escort frigates as soon as possible, while at the same time for acceptable and affordable for the budget, money.
If we put on 22350 instead of M75RU diesels, then when plused, we get much more power and it is possible to increase VI to 7000-8000 tons and get a wonderful heavy frigate DM and OZ. But it will cost about 650 - 700 million dollars. And using this in BMZ is already becoming irrational. Yes, and a large number of these are unlikely to build. And without corvettes (which are on diesel engines), BMZ cannot be protected. And there will be nothing to serve in the areas of combat deployment of NSNF.
All these problems are solved by one type of ship - a light escort frigate \ PLO pr. 1135X (7?). Such a ship for only 450 million dollars. will replace both corvettes and BODs in NSNF deployment areas, and will be able to lead light anti-submarine forces in the BMZ, and escort convoys of merchant ships and landing forces, and serve in the 5th operational squadron in the Mediterranean Sea. In terms of seaworthiness, autonomy, composition of weapons and carried BC, it is optimal in terms of price-quality / tasks to be solved, especially in comparison with corvettes 20380 and 20385. And if there is an air defense system "Polyment-Redut" with medium-range missiles, such a ship will be capable of independent missions in DM and OZ.
For 450 million dollars.
And you can build such ships on the Yantar - quickly and efficiently. For the Pacific Fleet - at the Amur Shipyard. And let the St. Petersburg shipyards build destroyers and heavy frigates.
If everything will be fine with diesels and they will cope with their release, then it may not be worth bothering and use 22350.1 as escorts. At a price of 550 million dollars. this would be more than acceptable.
And yet, as a light PLO frigate and the leader of light anti-submarine forces, 1135X (7?) Would be much more useful than the flawed 20385.
For the same money!

[Beregovic_1]

Depends on the type of rocket launch. Powder or pneumatic. If the type of launch is similar to those used in UKKS, then why not? Well, choose the size. The question is whether there is an anti-aircraft missile suitable for UKKS ....

[solar]

Theoretically, anything is possible.
But in practice, if everything were so simple, missiles would have been in them one way or another for a long time, and even initially.
But still do not stand, only talk.

[crossbill]

For air defense, you do not need to divide. It has its own 32 cells for "Redoubt".

[incognoto]

already done .. already UKKS can work with air defense systems ..

[digger]

Che, the characteristics of the 22350M are somehow different ... I read that the 22350m will have a displacement of 8000 tons, a length of 160 m, a total power on the shafts of 83 hp. 000 cells for CR \ RCC and 48 cells for missiles .... well, everything is clear in terms of the range of missiles ... this is missiles from S-64V300 \ S-4 air defense systems, this missile is exactly included in the UVP 400S-3 cell

[Beregovic_1]

The new ship is top secret and all the performance characteristics posted on the network are very far from reality. But it can be assumed that a missile from the S-400 complex is hitting 400 km, this missile fires from under another radar. Polyment detects and gives the control center for 150 km. So they will put the Frigate (as worked out in production and the best in terms of performance characteristics). They will put a frigate - a large upper weight - a displacement of over 10000 tons. This is also evidenced by the proposed composition of the power plant - gas-gas turbine, since there is a problem with diesel engines. So, studying the sources and not believing official statements, you can draw the alleged appearance of the ship.

[UVB]

Project 22350M frigates in the Navy of the Russian Federation

Since when have 22350M been part of the Navy? They haven't even been set yet.

[Gomunkul]

I will supplement your comment:

MOSCOW, February 2. /TASS/. The contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense for the construction of a series of six frigates of the oceanic zone of projects 22350 and 22350M is planned to be signed at the Army-2023 forum, it can be received by the Amur Shipbuilding Plant. This was reported to TASS by a source in the military-industrial complex.

[yho]

And not the fact that they will be laid down.
There is simply nothing more to brag about. Next cartoons.

[Guran33 Sergey]

Well, how to say "cartoons" .. One such cartoon in the Western region slammed the control center (anti-nuclear bunker) still of Soviet manufacture .. For another "cartoon" a carrier submarine was made (it is impossible to conduct a full-scale test in peacetime due to the subsequent disaster) and only one in a big secret (nuclear propulsion) so far it seems like a cartoon, it’s quite possible somewhere in the launch capsule ... Ukrainian or proukr don’t flatter yourself with unrealizable problems

[bayard]

Quote from Yoho

And not the fact that they will be laid down.

Will. For the only reason that prevented their construction before has been eliminated - Russia now has its own power plants for such ships. The first frigate from the domestic power plant "Admiral Golovko" will be commissioned in March.

Quote from Yoho

There is simply nothing more to brag about. Next cartoons.

And in December of this year, another frigate of the same series, the Admiral Isakov, will enter service.
Next year, another frigate "Admiral Amelko" will come into operation.
And next year, the nuclear cruiser "Admiral Nakhimov" and the aircraft carrier "Admiral Kuznetsov" will return to service after modernization, as well as the frigate (former BOD) pr. 1155 and the destroyer of the "Sarych" type will return from modernization.
Here are some cartoons.
So they will lay it down, and build it, and put it into operation.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: UVB

Project 22350M frigates in the Navy of the Russian Federation

Since when have 22350M been part of the Navy? They haven't even been set yet.

It also hurt my eyes ... We need to write more informatively.

[crossbill]

Most likely, 22350M refers to frigates that are being built in the NE starting from the 5th building with 32 UKKS cells.

[bayard]

Quote: Crossbill

Most likely, 22350M refers to frigates that are being built in the NE starting from the 5th building with 32 UKKS cells.

The second sub-series of frigates has an index of 22350.1, with four UKKS for 32 cells. In addition to the number of UKKS, there is nothing new there.
At 22350M, far from everything is clear yet ... to the uninitiated public. So the number of UKKS on it was first planned to be 6 - for 48 cells with a VI of 7000 - 8000 tons, then there was information that the project was redone towards enlargement - by 8 UKKS (64 cells) and a new air defense system ... respectively with a new one, much more a large and powerful radar, the area of ​​\u10b\u000bthe antenna sheets of which is many times larger than the "Polyment". And all this leads to an increase in VI up to 12 - 000 tons. ... And here the question of the power plant already arises, because the power of the M70FRU + M90FR turbocouples (83 l \ s) already seems to be insufficient ... and we can talk about a more powerful afterburner turbine (the index is still unknown) with a capacity of 000 - 40 l / s, or about four M000FRs per two shafts. I hope that by the time the contract is signed and bookmarked, these details will become known.
And of course, this is far from being a frigate.

[FoBoss_VM]

You need to increase the number of cells. Why so few ?

[crossbill]

A frigate with a displacement of 5400 tons and 64 cells for URO ... quite decent.

[incognoto]

22350 is still a frigate ... moreover, not 32 but 64. for there is a PU redoubt and UKKS. for the first 4 16+32. starting from 4 serial will be 32 + 32

[Kok_Ivanov]

[/ quote] Project 22350M frigates of the Russian Navy will receive ultra-long anti-aircraft guided missiles [quote]

Will they receive ultra-long-range radars (eyes)?

[Olaf Uksimae]

Project 22350M frigates in the Navy of the Russian Federation????
Do we already have them?????????

[1erWahrheitsMinister_1984]

Ich glaube, man sollte sich endlich Militärstrategen aus Nordkorea
Holen!! Kims Vater und er widerstehen den Sanktionen und sonstigen
Schweinereien der USA schon seit über 50 Jahren und geben nicht
"klein bei"...!!
Die Strategie ist eigentlich ganz simpel und sie funktioniert offenbar!

Kim sagt den Amis:

Da ich im konventionellen Bereich nicht mit den USA und ihren
sonstigen Stiefelleckern nebst Südkorea mithalten kann, schieße
ich auf jeden konventionellen Angriff einfach mit Atomraketen
unterschiedlichen Kalibers zurück und davon habe ich ganz,
ganz viele...!!

Fakt ist, die feigen Amis waren schon mehrfach mit zwei großen
Flugzeugträgern und einer Armada von Kriegsschiffen vor Ort,
Kim hat mal eben drei, vier größere Raketen abgeschossen die
bewiesen haben, dass er ab sofort auch das Territorium der
US Gangster erreichen kann und schon sind die Amis mit
eingezogenem Schwanz samt ihrer US-Schrotthaufen wieder
abgehauen...!! So what?!?

Russland muss die Idea der atomaren Abschreckung
- ob man es nun will, oder nicht - mit neuem Leben
erfüllen und glaubhaft in Szene setzen, dann werden
es sich diese US/EU - Pisser drei mal überlegen, ob
die Ukraine dieses wirklich Risiko wert ist...!!
Aber Russland muss sich damit beeilen, denn ich bin
fest überzeugt, dass man im Westen schon an ähnlichen
Ideen bastelt...!!

[Vladimir Dmitrievich Burtsev]

Electronic warfare equipment must be installed on all ships in order to shoot down the adversary's flying objects without any shooting. As soon as the plane approached our ship, and immediately, without any firing, fell and sank. Why and how is not seen or heard. Very aesthetically pleasing...

[Roman Efremov]

Quote: Pavel57

32 cells is also not much. It is necessary to divide between anti-ship missiles, anti-aircraft defense and air defense missiles.

There are 32 cells there just for anti-ship missiles - these are some of them that will be occupied by long-range 40N6E air defense missiles, since they are large.
And there are also 32 cells for the Redoubt air defense system itself - they are smaller, they contain 9M96 and 9M100 missiles.

[hostel]

Good people, explain to me how a ship can fire beyond the line of natural curvature? I understand that in order to shoot Hokkai, we need missiles with a range of 400 km. With this, everything is clear, he flies at an altitude of 10 km. But how can you hit other targets, for example, attacking f-18s with harpoons, they only briefly leave the radar horizon for additional reconnaissance of the target. They fired and went down. And the anti-ship missiles decreased and went, according to the reckoning, towards the goal.

[Roman Efremov]

If a missile is guided by a ship's radar (48N6 missile), then targets below the radio horizon line are not hit by it, at the maximum range (250 km for the latest modification) it will hit a target at least 10 km approximately. However, the ship's radars are high - maybe they will hit lower, but definitely not above the surface of the water.
If on the ARGSN missile (40N6E missile), then it can hit low-flying targets at a maximum range (380 km). It enters the target area at the given coordinates, if I'm not mistaken.

[hostel]

If I remember correctly, the radar at an altitude of 100 meters provides a horizon of 35-40 km. How to carry out over-the-horizon target detection? It is clear that such detection is possible, but accuracy suffers, in other words, it is impossible to reliably determine the coordinates and, as a result, the impossibility of reliable target designation for missiles. Therefore, ARLGSN will not help or its effectiveness will be very low.