Turkish edition: At the July NATO summit in Vilnius, the issue of a direct military clash with Russia will be discussed

The Turkish newspaper Sabah ("Morning") publishes an article that talks about a potential direct clash between NATO and Russia. The author of the material notes that the risk of such a collision is becoming increasingly high.

From the article:

After the NATO countries, including Germany, agreed to transfer their Tanks, the conflict has reached a new level. As soon as the United States hands over its long-range missiles to Ukraine, the degree of conflict will rise even more.

The Turkish observer points out that NATO is making efforts to set Turkey against Russia and "drag into the camp of Moscow's direct opponents." The publication notes that at the NATO summer summit in Vilnius, scheduled for July 2023, the North Atlantic bloc will discuss a direct military clash with Russia.

It is also noted that Washington actually managed to break Germany in the sense that it would approve the supply of Leopard 2 tanks to Kyiv. Now Washington is doing everything to get Ankara on the obvious anti-Russian side. In this case, a big war can come to vast territories - from the Baltic and Eastern European countries to the Mediterranean.

Recall that earlier Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan called the decision of NATO countries to supply tanks to Ukraine "reckless". According to him, this can cause an additional escalation of the armed conflict.

Comments

[cachekmosa]

There will be no direct one, but this one with Khoklostan will be dragged out to the maximum. They will make another Afghanistan for us.

[dmi.pris1]

This is already worse than Afghanistan. The NATO military is killing our guys, the war is already in full swing. And for a long time it has not been a proxy war

[Gardamir]

NATO military kill our guys

You can’t tell who from Russia is driving fuel for Ukrainian tanks. Who supplies gas to the West. Who transfers money to Zelensky for gas transportation?

[megadeth]

Moskovsky Komsomolets is trying to answer your question: https://www.mk.ru/economics/2023/01/23/lukoyl-zapravlyal-ukrainskie-tanki.html

[blackGRAIL]

Fuel for the APU is supplied by the Lukoil refinery in Bulgaria. At the same time, he proudly and openly reports that with the beginning of the CBO, he managed to double the volume of oil rewound. And Bulgaria, suddenly, so successfully was withdrawn from the oil sanctions of the West.

[Armen Sologyan]

Not Afghanistan, but a repetition of the history of Berlin in May 1945!

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: Armen Sologyan

Not Afghanistan, but a repetition of the history of Berlin in May 1945!

To repeat the "history of Berlin, May 1945", you need the leadership of May 1945.

[2112vda]

Everyone imagines himself a strategist looking at the battle from the side.

[Leonid67]

Therefore, it is necessary to justify the shameful failures of the authorities? If I don’t wear glasses at work, I’ll lose 5% of the bonus as if from a bush. And here the fate of the entire state is at stake! And at the top are careerists and sycophants, not professionals. And we need to understand this? No! It is necessary to wet your face in shit at every opportunity, there is no way to play anymore

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Leonid67

And here the fate of the entire state is at stake!

The fate of the state depends on the unity of the people and power.
On the day of the Stalingrad victory, the authorities cannot pronounce "victory Soviet armies near Stalingrad". She is tormented by the words "Soviet", "socialism".
There is no unity.

[vovochkarzhevsky]

That for the current authorities is one task, as many people as possible to drive into the new serfdom, called banking bondage.

[Lech from Android.]

Quote: cahekmosa

There will be no direct one, but this one with Khoklostan will be dragged out to the maximum. They will make another Afghanistan for us.

There won’t be, but we need to prepare for battles with the troops of the Poles, Americans, and the Baltic states right now ... they have concentrated their strike units on the borders of Russia ... their intelligence is working with might and main ... proxy saboteurs are on the territory of Russia periodically conducting sabotage ... in general, the situation is pre-war beginning of June 1941.

[Gardamir]

the situation is pre-war beginning of June 1941.

But Stalin is not in the Kremlin, and what of the modern generals Zhukov?

[Kerensky]

What for? Not all the last Ukrainians, Poles, Balts, Georgians have been played in the game yet. There is no point in entering yourself.

[Lech from Android.]

Quote: Sergey028

, soon we will face a military defeat from NATO

Who is it us?...you can be if you are ready to give up.
And so I see signs of understanding by top officials in Washington that Russia cannot be starved out and they are desperately looking for new ways and methods of pressure on Russia, including psychological pressure on weak-minded Russians.
A direct war with Russia is not a computer game ... The US State Department understands this well and will push its vassals ahead of itself ... Poles, Balts, Ukronazis ... they themselves will be far behind.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Lech from Android.

The US State Department understands this well and will push its vassals ahead of itself ... Poles, Balts, Ukronazis ...

NATO summit. Lloyd Austin asks -
- "So, gentlemen, we put the question to the vote - Who is in favor of starting a war with Russia?"
Among those present, four hands immediately went up. Austin looked around the room and, marking something in his notebook, said - "Tax, Poland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania ... Cross out!"
- "Excuse me, are you deleting us from the voting list?" - the representatives of Poland and the Baltic States asked with bewilderment.
- "No" - answered Lloyd Austin; "We appreciate your dedication to being of service, and with deep gratitude we strike you off the map as an acceptable loss."

[Sergey028]

Can't starve Russia out? Why do you think so? And now what is happening? Take and how to take. And tell someone else about the psychological pressure on weak-minded Russians, certainly not to me. I know one thing for sure - if you continue to chew snot with "red lines", then at the moment of the maximum weakening of Russia, they will wither on it properly and they will not even have time to meow in the Kremlin. As the late Polish-American OK Brzezinski once said, “Russia can have as many nuclear suitcases and nuclear buttons as it likes, but since $500 billion of the Russian elite is in our banks, you still figure it out: is it your elite or already ours? I don’t I see not a single situation in which Russia will use its nuclear potential.“

[Simple]

As for "maximum attenuation", it will be more accurately described as
"reducing a preventive nuclear strike to a minimum" - this is what the United States is striving for. But the EU is scarier, since it’s impossible to get off with a slight fright.

[rotmistr60]

At the NATO summer summit in Vilnius scheduled for July 2023, the North Atlantic bloc will discuss a direct military confrontation with Russia.

Well, in fact, such serious things as participation in a war with a nuclear power are discussed not at summits, but in special rooms equipped with security systems from any wiretapping. The summit will once again discuss military assistance to Ukraine and determine which of the countries of Eastern Europe is ready, but under its own flag, to take a direct part in the war with Russia. And here it will be interesting to look at Poland, which today is shouting a lot and aggressively about Russia, but will it be able tomorrow without cover of the 5th Art. NATO Charter will decide on an open war against Russia, which he hates so much?

[blackGRAIL]

Poland announced a huge program to rearm and increase its armed forces. The program, subject to its 100% implementation, really looks very dangerous (provided that it is supported by the United States and NATO. Poland is turning into the strongest (after the United States) NATO shock fist. But until it is completed, Poland has no reason even to simply provide its territory for attacks not even on Russia, but on Belarus.

At the same time, Belarus is an ideal litmus test to test Russia's readiness to use nuclear weapons. Western countries that possess nuclear weapons are completely protected from the use of Russian nuclear weapons in such a conflict, Russia can strike only at Poland. In the NATO conventional war against Belarus + Russia, Belarus will lose. And Russia's unwillingness to use nuclear weapons raises the question of its readiness to use it at all.

[Simple]

Quote from: blackGRAIL

Russia can only strike at Poland

But it is also possible to roll out Poland in a revealing way, so to speak, so that others hiccup for a century.

[DefenderofTruth]

It seems that the committees decided on this long ago.

[Metallurg_2]

They will decide who to sacrifice first: Labus or Pshek.

[Stas157]

Having passed all the red lines, the West became so insolent that now:

will discuss the issue of a direct military clash with Russia

[Silver99]

Of course, there will be a clash, but not now, and most likely not in today's Ukraine. Everything is going too far and it will not end peacefully. All evil on Earth is from the descendants of slave owners and colonialists from the United States.

[Crete 25]

But they continue to flourish, and everyone obediently falls under them. And with those who did not lie down, they deal harshly, and no one says a word across, does not impose sanctions against them, and does not adopt any resolutions against them in the UN

[Amateur]

Some journalists invent fake news, others replicate it. Everything is in business. And "People" "hawala" all this, hanging their ears and getting scared.

[Alexandr2637]

The North Atlantic bloc will discuss a direct military clash with Russia.

Openheimer was already there. Gameover Coming Soon.....

[Leader_Barmaleev]

I don’t remember which of the greats said (and I’m too lazy to look) - Always and in everything you need to proceed only from the worst case scenario, and if it doesn’t happen, then you will accept the best options as a gift from God. Our leaders, like many commentators, are in a complacent state - yes, this will not happen, yes they will not dare, but they have a thin gut ... And they will dare, and everything is in order with their guts, because God himself ordered to go to war against the complacent dupe. Russia AT THIS MOMENT should already be ready to fight the entire NATO bloc! And not only with him - in the south and east, not even bunny boys are sitting in the bushes. And most importantly, the principle must be strictly observed - INTENTION IS ALSO ACTION, so if someone expresses the intention to erase Russia, then the blow to him must be immediate and deadly. But our consortium of Kremlin politicians and oligarchs equidistant from them can only count money and draw red lines. Well, mumble indistinctly.

[blackGRAIL]

Our numerous statements about red lines and the complete absence of any action after their violation first caused bewilderment, and then led to a complete loss of fear of Russia in the West. But at the beginning of the NMD, they were really afraid of a Russian strike on the logistics centers for the supply of weapons to Ukraine. Remember Putin's words about the British destroyer: if we had sunk it, no third world war would have happened. He's absolutely right. The maximum that the British could decide was to dig our ship during his overseas campaign. Therefore, a strike on logistics centers in Poland (even tactical nuclear weapons) would not lead to any third world war. There are no fools to die for the war outside of their mother territory.

[DefenderofTruth]

Our red lines are hidden deep in bank vaults in London, New York and Zurich.

[tihonmarine]

The North Atlantic bloc will discuss a direct military clash with Russia.

I won't be surprised if NATO decides on an open clash with Russia.
Now the leaders of Western countries are more like idiots than reasonable people, if before the First and World Wars and before the Second World War there were more adequate people, but the wars began, now there is nothing to talk about.

[Crete 25]

This will not happen if all these "gifts" are destroyed while still being delivered. Why they don't do that is another question.

[Uprun]

Arguments about the tribalts are not serious, all three countries, by order of the regional committee, can put up at best 1 corps, they will not announce mobilization there, and if they do, the last "working" hands will be thrown away to the EU. With psheks, the situation is slightly different, but they will not trample alone, because. they understand that there will be losses for the regular army, but they cannot explain to the people that young lords were put to work for the "happiness of the outskirts." As an option, NATO's humanitarian intervention under the auspices of the UN - Romanians from the south, Poles / Tribalts from the north, talk to deprive Russia of the right of veto in the UN Security Council is not out of nowhere. And then ....... only who has real Faberge.

[Vladimir80]

The UN is a piece of Mr. ... on, with the sha they are perfectly used as they want, and for the UN towers it is sacred "we will not allow isolation, the international community, we call on reasonable forces"

[DefenderofTruth]

It looks like everything is going to the fact that we can not avoid this