The head of the Russian Foreign Ministry called Nuland's words about the explosion of the SP-1 and SP-2 gas pipelines a "surrender"

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The head of the Russian Foreign Ministry called Nuland's words about the explosion of the SP-1 and SP-2 gas pipelines a "surrender"

Explosions on the Russian gas pipelines SP-1 and SP-2, which occurred in September last year, still leave many questions. In particular, about who committed this sabotage.

The United States and Great Britain seem to be the most interested parties in the destruction of our highways, through which Russian gas was supplied to the EU. In turn, the latter, which, however, is not surprising, categorically deny their involvement in sabotage.



Meanwhile, during today's interview with the TV channel "Россия 24"Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that the US Deputy Secretary of State, in fact, made a "surrender," frankly rejoicing at the sabotage on our gas pipelines. This is how the Russian minister commented on Victoria Nuland's statement in Congress that the US administration is glad that SP-2 has turned into a "heap of metal."

It is noted that this is a recognition of the one to whom the sabotage was most beneficial.

It is obvious that today a war is being waged against Russia on almost all fronts. In addition to comprehensive support for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the West puts pressure on our country in the economic, political and other spheres. At the same time, more than 50 states united in the fight against Russia.

At the same time, our country is facing unprecedented pressure almost single-handedly. Despite the fact that Russia is a member of the CSTO, Moscow to this day has not turned to its partners in the bloc for help, Sergey Lavrov noted.
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  1. +20
    2 February 2023 12: 46
    A confession is made to the punitive authorities. And this woman just bores everything she wants, and knows that nothing will happen to her for this.
    And about the CSTO: if Russia suddenly turns there for some kind of help, then this will mean the end of this organization, because. She obviously won't help.
    1. 0
      2 February 2023 12: 50
      It's not that she won't do anything. The fact is that the United States will not do anything. No eye for an eye. Although there are targets on the territory of the United States or the EU and there is an opportunity (it is impossible to defend against sabotage - Vityaz's teachings have repeatedly shown this).
      1. +2
        2 February 2023 12: 55
        Do you see the difference between nuland and usa? Me not.
      2. +2
        2 February 2023 13: 05
        "It's just some kind of shame" ... No, of course it is not necessary to remain silent. But a fact is a fact. A bolt was "hammered" against our country and the Foreign Ministry. Hence the disappeared fear of Russian nuclear weapons.
        1. +1
          2 February 2023 14: 17
          Why didn't alleged Somali pirates sabotage the transatlantic cables in response to the sabotage on SP-1,2?
          The leadership of the Russian spirit was not enough.
          So we will stand as if we put on pants, afraid to blow towards the West. How many people kept repeating: the West would freeze Russian assets, and they answered us: it would be theft. Frozen. Theft. AND?
        2. 0
          2 February 2023 15: 13
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          "It's just some kind of shame" ... No, of course it is not necessary to remain silent. But a fact is a fact. A bolt was "hammered" against our country and the Foreign Ministry. Hence the disappeared fear of Russian nuclear weapons.

          You are the President of Russia. What are your suggestions and actions? No gimmicks or sarcasm.
          1. +2
            3 February 2023 00: 51
            May I? To blow up a couple of production platforms in Norway, if there is no our gas, there will be none. And also to say that we are not, to buy some American anti-tank mines or C4 from the Taliban. Drop a couple of American mines from the quad onto the Polish LNG terminal during unloading. Well, in general, do something, and not whine that we are offended. The countries of the second and third world may ask in chorus - for the first time, right?
            1. +1
              3 February 2023 09: 13
              Quote from alexoff
              May I? To blow up a couple of production platforms in Norway, if there is no our gas, there will be none. And also to say that we are not, to buy some American anti-tank mines or C4 from the Taliban. Drop a couple of American mines from the quad onto the Polish LNG terminal during unloading. Well, in general, do something, and not whine that we are offended. The countries of the second and third world may ask in chorus - for the first time, right?

              It will be rather weak ... For good, cut some of the most important cables in the Atlantic, arrange sabotage with the hands of ISIS at gas terminals, at the base of the SCF Navy, organize protests in Germany, raise France to the ears in protests (don’t feed the French with bread, let them run through the streets!) Romanians pinch. Arrange fires and accidents in their ports. Well, and so on, and put six Poseidons to the bottom nearby in New York ... Let them lie down .. And talk about putting the Poseidons on combat duty .. hi We are not responsible for you! Maybe everything! fellow feel
        3. +2
          2 February 2023 21: 16
          Our country and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs were "hammered with a bolt."

          Nothing depends on the Ministry of Foreign Affairs here.
          The Ministry of Foreign Affairs is always just words. Whether there are concrete actions and opportunities behind the words - that is the question, and here the Foreign Ministry is powerless. This is the responsibility of the authorities in the country.

          During the Cuban Missile Crisis, the Soviet Foreign Ministry could puff out a thousand times and it had absolutely no effect on the US ... the readiness of the Soviet authorities to deploy nuclear missiles in Cuba is what influenced the US.

          No matter how much they scolded Kukuruznik (after all, there is something for that), but he had eggs. He could also slam his shoe on the podium, promising to "Show Kuz'kin's mother", and show this very Kuz'kin's mother (the readiness to deploy nuclear missiles in Cuba, testing the most powerful bomb in the history of mankind - the Tsar Bomba).

          Joseph Stalin did not need to clap any shoes at all. Both the mattress-makers and the small-shaven knew that he was a man of action and his words should be taken more than seriously.

          Now we have a multi-move with respected partners who are all drawing red lines. But it does not have the expected effect on the West (sarcasm).
          1. +1
            3 February 2023 00: 48
            Well, after 1945, the Anglo-Saxons drove Stalin out of Iran and drove him away from Turkey, unfortunately he was also not omnipotent, there were no bombs then
        4. -1
          3 February 2023 18: 18
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          Hence the disappeared fear of Russian nuclear weapons

          Why fear, if the kids of those who make decisions are there, the babosiki are also there. Who will shoot loaves for their children?
      3. 0
        2 February 2023 15: 33
        ..... Nuland's words about the explosion of the SP-1 and SP-2 gas pipelines "surrender"

        In my opinion, she did not commit any "appearance", and even more so with a confession. On the contrary, she spoke arrogantly, and even with a challenge.
    2. +5
      2 February 2023 13: 07
      The CSTO exists at the moment only because there is Russia there, which will always lend a helping hand to those in need, and if Russia asks, it will most likely be shown a fiddle. And this is also one of the results of the work of our Foreign Ministry.
      1. 0
        2 February 2023 16: 02
        Quote: al3x
        And this is also one of the results of the work of our Foreign Ministry.

        Not only. This is also the result of low economic integration.
        Belching "perestroika".
    3. 0
      2 February 2023 13: 08
      And about the CSTO: if Russia suddenly turns there for some kind of help, then this will mean the end of this organization, because. She obviously won't help.
      We prefer to delay the appeal - we love to live in illusions.
    4. +5
      2 February 2023 13: 14
      Quote: barclay
      And at the expense of the CSTO: if Russia suddenly turns there for some kind of help, then this will mean the end of this organization,

      And good Yes Fix this "end" legally and start relying only on yourself, or build a different security structure with reliable partners.
      1. 0
        2 February 2023 16: 06
        Quote: Terenin
        or build a different security structure with reliable partners.

        Having made itself an unreliable partner (whom only we have not handed over / merged), Russia will be tight with reliable partners. hi
  2. +9
    2 February 2023 12: 46
    Well, he called and called. And yet it was clear. All these bleatings of our Foreign Ministry are like pellets to an elephant for Westerners. And the benefits for Russia from all these statements and concerns are like a dead poultice.
    1. 0
      2 February 2023 13: 16
      On the contrary, there is only one harm, because except for laughter, contempt and desire to kick, causes nothing. Already supposedly neutral, Israel has joined in with the supply of electronic warfare. It would be nice for someone to know for sure that their state is being erased from the map with one rocket with nuclear weapons.
      1. +1
        2 February 2023 15: 16
        Quote: IvanIvanov
        Already neutral supposedly Israel

        It's funny, neutral Israel ... For a long time it has been spoiling and spoiling Russia.
    2. +7
      2 February 2023 13: 17
      Quote: al3x
      Well, he called and called. And yet it was clear. All these bleatings of our Foreign Ministry are like pellets to an elephant for Westerners. And the benefits for Russia from all these statements and concerns are like a dead poultice.

      Therefore, our Foreign Ministry needs to change the principle of work. Do not butt heads with Western enemies, but work in countries loyal to Russia in all areas.
      1. 0
        2 February 2023 13: 57
        100%, it's time to go from warm Euro-American embassies with a good salary and a settled family to hot friendly countries.
  3. +3
    2 February 2023 12: 47
    So pull off what kind of enemy pipeline and be silent with round eyes.
  4. +4
    2 February 2023 12: 48
    Lava of the Russian Foreign Ministry Sergei Lavrov said that the US Deputy Secretary of State, in fact, made a "surrender"
    This is not a confession, this is a golden rain on the heads of the leadership of the Russian Federation and on Russia in principle.
  5. +2
    2 February 2023 12: 52
    It is obvious that today a war is being waged against Russia on almost all fronts.

    The explosion of pipelines is an undisguised aggression that provoked the outbreak of war.
    1. +2
      2 February 2023 13: 04
      Quote: tihonmarine
      this is undisguised aggression

      How can you think so! No. These are our partners! belay
    2. 0
      2 February 2023 13: 30
      undisguised aggression that provoked the outbreak of war.


      And what specific war began after September 26?
  6. +6
    2 February 2023 12: 52
    Russia has no one to turn to for help. There are only fellow travelers in the CSTO: Kazakhstan has already stated that it will not allow anti-Russian sanctions to be circumvented, Armenia threatens to withdraw from the CSTO. Azerbaijan voted for the resolution on the tribunal over the Russian leadership. Moldova zasobiralis in NATO. All these are failures, including the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
    1. 0
      2 February 2023 13: 10
      Kazakhstan has already stated that it will not allow anti-Russian sanctions to be circumvented

      He also closed the trade representation allegedly "as part of the optimization of the structure." By the way, there was no "structural optimization" in any other country
  7. +7
    2 February 2023 12: 55
    Sergei Lavrov said that the US Deputy Secretary of State essentially made a "surrender"

    Well said. And then what? What are the responses? Or "got lost" and that's it? Isn't that why all sorts of Estonian, Latvian, Polish and other "mongrels" began to "lift their legs" against Russia?
    1. 0
      2 February 2023 13: 00
      And since "the turnout with confession", then "the guilty head and the sword does not cut" ...
      1. +4
        2 February 2023 13: 19
        Quote: fax66
        And since "the turnout with confession", then "the guilty head and the sword does not cut" ...

        Appearance does not exempt from liability, but may be taken into account in court as a mitigating circumstance.
  8. +4
    2 February 2023 12: 58
    And what will you do to her? Write to sportsloto? Once again they emphasized their helplessness and lack of independence in relation to the so-called "partners"
    1. +6
      2 February 2023 13: 21
      Quote: james
      And what will you do to her? Write to sportsloto? Once again they emphasized their helplessness and lack of independence in relation to the so-called "partners"

      Much can be done, but not with the current political-state thinking of our elite.
      1. +2
        2 February 2023 13: 27
        That's for sure, some kind of latent Gorbachev
  9. +7
    2 February 2023 13: 00
    In life, sometimes even a thousand dollars is not worth one action, but enemies act, while we all mumble words, especially about some kind of responsibility and about some kind of red lines.
    1. +3
      2 February 2023 13: 26
      Quote: sanik2020
      In life, sometimes even a thousand and a half is not worth one action, but enemies act, while we all mumble words, especially about some kind of responsibility and about some red lines.

      These "Red Lines" constantly cross all and sundry winked
  10. +3
    2 February 2023 13: 01
    And without this so-called. "surrendering to confession" (not the correct wording because Nuland did not directly admit that the United States did it) it was clear who the main beneficiary of the terrorist attack was. And from the statements of the Russophobe Nuland, Russia did not feel any better. And the fact that a war is being waged against Russia on all fronts has long been clear.
    Moscow to this day has not turned to partners in the bloc
    Probably because he understands, except for Belarus, and there is no one else to turn to. Today I read that Kazakhstan continues to sell weapons to third countries that send them to Ukraine and is well aware of this.
    1. DDR
      0
      2 February 2023 13: 19
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Probably because he understands, except for Belarus, and there is no one else to turn to. FROM

      A friend in need is a friend indeed! hi
    2. +3
      2 February 2023 13: 29
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Today I read that Kazakhstan continues to sell weapons to third countries that send them to Ukraine and is well aware of this.

      And, it’s not difficult for Russia to “criticize” them economically and politically (by the legs and around the corner) at all. Our complete degradation of political will.

      Welcome hi
  11. +2
    2 February 2023 13: 02
    The head of the Russian Foreign Ministry called Nuland's words about the explosion of the SP-1 and SP-2 gas pipelines a "surrender"
    . It’s interesting, does our Foreign Ministry understand that minke whales and others have long given a damn about their statements? However, they are only "a voice from heaven ... from the towers, to be more precise", it is not their fault that they are forced to speak into the void, practically. Everyone has long known that you need a "kind word and a PISTOL" !!! otherwise, in the current world, in the current situation, it is USELESS!!!
    In general, as it is not sad to realize, the circus is not only with them, ours are no less actively involved in this matter.
    Also, I’ll add ... the foreign audience, the plebs, get their entertainment, but what does WE get???
    1. +6
      2 February 2023 13: 34
      Quote: rocket757
      The head of the Russian Foreign Ministry called Nuland's words about the explosion of the SP-1 and SP-2 gas pipelines a "surrender"
      . It’s interesting, does our Foreign Ministry understand that minke whales and others have long given a damn about their statements? However, they are only "a voice from heaven ... from the towers, to be more precise", it is not their fault that they are forced to speak into the void, practically. Everyone has long known that you need a "kind word and a PISTOL" !!! otherwise, in the current world, in the current situation, it is USELESS!!!
      In general, as it is not sad to realize, the circus is not only with them, ours are no less actively involved in this matter.
      Also, I’ll add ... the foreign audience, the plebs, get their entertainment, but what does WE get???

      Victor hi and it cannot be otherwise. No. All our federal executive authorities (federal executive authorities) work in the logic of the liberal-democratic guidelines that the West prescribed for Russia in the 90s and 00s. And this has become part of the political will (or rather, its degradation), which we can see from the dumb behavior of the West.
      If anyone really rebuilt, then this is PMC Wagner.
      1. +2
        2 February 2023 14: 03
        Gennady soldier and who should our people hope for now???
        I just want to remind everyone of the saying "Trust in God, but don't make a mistake yourself" !!!
        Like it or not, but a significant part of our people, at least somehow, by action / inaction, took part in that CHOICE, steering, leading, which we now do not like at all ... everyone, not everyone, but there are very few who are not satisfied!
        The question is, WHY CHOOSE these???
        Well, they practically did not hide that they are exactly SUCH!
        1. +5
          2 February 2023 14: 18
          Quote: rocket757
          Gennady soldier and who should our people hope for now???
          I just want to remind everyone of the saying "Trust in God, but don't make a mistake yourself" !!!
          Like it or not, but a significant part of our people, at least somehow, by action / inaction, took part in that CHOICE, steering, leading, which we now do not like at all ... everyone, not everyone, but there are very few who are not satisfied!
          The question is, WHY CHOOSE these???
          Well, they practically did not hide that they are exactly SUCH!

          Then it was ok.
          Now the claims are that the opportunity has been given to rebuild the brain, but the actions say that in addition to blah blah ... an empty exhaust, or at least very slowly, hesitantly, a step forward or two back ... request
          1. +1
            2 February 2023 15: 41
            I have the impression that from the fields, from the "man with a gun", among other things, there is an outright negative towards our polypticum, towards the upper ones, towards the towers!
            If he builds analogies, then those who have been sitting all over the world can wait for their sailor Zheleznyak !!! and he will pronounce his historical phrase "who are temporary here, get out of here !!!"
            Do not hope, there, that this will not happen, in the end.
            1. +4
              2 February 2023 18: 56
              Quote: rocket757
              I have the impression that from the fields, from the "man with a gun", among other things, there is an outright negative towards our polypticum, towards the upper ones, towards the towers!
              If he builds analogies, then those who have been sitting all over the world can wait for their sailor Zheleznyak !!! and he will pronounce his historical phrase "who are temporary here, get out of here !!!"
              Do not hope, there, that this will not happen, in the end.

              I totally agree.
              Here you need to understand that in extreme conditions (SVO), in order to survive, consciousness is formed faster and in the right direction, and under the conditions "I woke up when my eyes opened - I drank coffee - a car to the entrance - a cozy office ...", then the final will definitely be ... - hello, I'm sailor Zheleznyak!
              1. 0
                3 February 2023 09: 45
                Sailor Zheleznyak, this is just the beginning ... then there will be a lot of "fun" and not so much.
                In general, such a state as "fear lost" is not very useful for the body.
            2. +2
              3 February 2023 00: 58
              With regroupings and deals, they bargain for apparently cozy shelters and immunity from The Hague, since you can run away from the sailors, but you can’t run away from partners, this is no more shopping in Milan!
              1. 0
                3 February 2023 09: 43
                The question is ours / not ours, sooner or later becomes so acute that for some the prospect begins to loom ... to sit on it, in a certain way ...
                It happened so many times.
  12. +1
    2 February 2023 13: 07
    Well, I said to myself and said ... She has such a job.
    Stop and flow silently.
    Or act!
    1. +3
      2 February 2023 13: 38
      Quote: I dare_notice_
      Well, I said to myself and said ... She has such a job.
      Stop and flow silently.
      Or act!

      laughing well, in fact .... it is Yes
  13. +1
    2 February 2023 13: 12
    Despite the fact that Russia is a member of the CSTO, Moscow to this day has not turned to its partners in the bloc for help, Sergey Lavrov noted.


    And who to contact there? To the Tajiks chtol?
    1. +4
      2 February 2023 13: 41
      Quote: Carat
      Despite the fact that Russia is a member of the CSTO, Moscow to this day has not turned to its partners in the bloc for help, Sergey Lavrov noted.


      And who to contact there? To the Tajiks chtol?

      Let a battalion, or at least a company, but could be assembled to help Russia.
      1. +1
        2 February 2023 16: 38
        From the Tajik migrant workers, a division will calmly be typed, and 10 Tajiks will have the same money as 1 of our contractors.
  14. +1
    2 February 2023 13: 12
    It's time to bring this up for a global discussion, the recognition of a terrorist as a terrorist, well, at least to the UN rostrum. We will talk now and quietly shut up ..............
    1. +2
      2 February 2023 13: 32
      Moreover, one can write an honest book as thick as the Old Testament about the crimes of partners and their ukr.o.v.y.r.o.d.k.ov. Take it with you on any business trip, promote, distribute, like a missionary, in educational and gift performance. No, they prefer to gurgle under their breath
      1. +4
        2 February 2023 13: 43
        Quote: IvanIvanov
        Moreover, one can write an honest book as thick as the Old Testament about the crimes of partners and their ukr.o.v.y.r.o.d.k.ov. Take it with you on any business trip, promote, distribute, like a missionary, in educational and gift performance. No, they prefer to gurgle under their breath

        To put it mildly winked and the Foreign Ministry is rather weak for decent answers (at least, like the late Vitaly Ivanovich Churkin at the UN)
        1. 0
          2 February 2023 14: 00
          The thing is, if you go too far in rhetoric, they will send you home, but in friendly countries the comfort is not the same
  15. +4
    2 February 2023 13: 15
    The head of the Russian Foreign Ministry called Nuland's words about the explosion of the SP-1 and SP-2 gas pipelines a "surrender"
    There is a turnout ... there is no confession!
    1. 0
      2 February 2023 13: 36
      Yes, this is a turnout with a solemn and proud recognition
  16. +1
    2 February 2023 13: 28
    this is a recognition of the one who most benefited from the sabotage


    Well, actually there is logic in this. Look for someone who benefits.

    But the most interesting question for me is why, after all, the saboteurs did not blow up all the lines of the pipeline, but only 3 out of 4? Why did they leave one? Based on what?
    1. +3
      2 February 2023 14: 07
      Quote from: dump22
      this is a recognition of the one who most benefited from the sabotage


      Well, actually there is logic in this. Look for someone who benefits.

      But the most interesting question for me is why, after all, the saboteurs did not blow up all the lines of the pipeline, but only 3 out of 4? Why did they leave one? Based on what?

      It is not so easy to present such engineering objects at depth and incognito.
      1. +1
        2 February 2023 14: 20
        They acted professionally and did not spare explosives.
        All three pipelines were blown up very qualitatively. In total, more than 250m of pipes were completely destroyed.

        So why did they leave the last pipeline completely untouched? No traces of an explosion or failed explosives were found on it. It looks like it was planned in advance to leave it whole.
    2. 0
      3 February 2023 01: 00
      They hint that they are not tearing to the end, they say - you know, we can forgive you if you regroup to the Volga and accept Biden's proposal from 2021 - against China to the last Russian, which, by the way, some people accepted, simply asked in Europe to remove NATO troops away
  17. +1
    2 February 2023 13: 34
    To paraphrase the words of one of the characters in the film "The meeting place cannot be changed": - We have no methods against the United States, unfortunately. And our authorities are involved in such a negative state of affairs by their actions, or rather inaction, and the Foreign Ministry as well. There are many words, but there are almost no deeds with the end result.
  18. 0
    2 February 2023 14: 37
    Yes, only she twirled the entire mid in one place, she will not get anything for it!
  19. 0
    2 February 2023 16: 36
    So what? Then what, where is our accusation. As long as I see the desire of our authorities, this topic should not be raised, just like the topic of the Skripals.
  20. +1
    2 February 2023 16: 36
    Well, why don't we undermine something in return? Or "we are not"?
  21. 0
    2 February 2023 18: 12
    Nuland has humble beginnings from being a psokesperson for the State Department who could not answer a question intelligently if her life depended on it. She was only parrotting scripted lines and must have been very frustrating to the journalists attending her briefings. After 20 years or so, she is still an incapable person of low intelligence, her highest qualification is obededience and rabid aggression in the service of her masters. A chosenite herself, speaks Russian and is one of the most narrow minded, revolting human beings that one can observe on the news.
  22. +1
    2 February 2023 23: 24
    It is a pity for the money of Gazprom and the state for this project.
    It would be better if this money was spent on the development of new jobs throughout Russia.
    As for the CSTO, this is a stillborn baby.
    We have only hope for our army and navy!
    I would not spend a dime on protecting CSTO members.
    Not a single scumbag from the CSTO sent a single company of soldiers to help us in the Donbass!
    I would take our peacekeepers out of Armenia, let the Azerbaijanis give them a light!
    Let them ask for help from the West if they help them!
  23. 0
    3 February 2023 18: 22
    Quote: al3x
    and if Russia asks

    We should ask now. To "dot all the i". It will immediately be clear who is with us and who is with them! It's time to decide! Europe has decided. And we are long overdue.
  24. 0
    3 February 2023 18: 27
    Despite the fact that Russia is a member of the CSTO, Moscow to this day has not turned to its partners in the bloc for help, Sergey Lavrov noted.

    - not even funny, Mr. Lavrov!
    SP-2 turned into a gamble for which no one was held responsible. Neither for the money sunk for the construction, nor for sabotage.

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