A group of Ukrainian soldiers who were training in Britain surrendered in Donbass a few minutes after the start of the battle

February 2 2023 76

Increasingly, there are reports that the Ukrainian command is throwing into the battle in the Donbass (from Ugledar to Artyomovsk and territories west of Kremennaya) military personnel who were previously trained in NATO countries. This includes the Ukrainian military, who were trained at the training grounds of Germany, Britain, and Poland. In the hope of turning the tide on the Donbass front, the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine throws into battle both those who have undergone quite a long training, and those who have completed a maximum of a two-week course.

Information Service RIA News, referring to the statements of a captured Ukrainian serviceman, writes that a group of servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who returned to Ukraine after training at the British base Vorkop was captured.

A Ukrainian prisoner of war (his name is given - Artyom Kovalenko) reported that he and his colleagues surrendered after about 20 minutes of the battle east of Svyatogorsk.

Kovalenko said that in Britain they were trained to storm enemy trenches, fight in buildings, and act as part of units in urban areas. According to the Ukrainian prisoner, the shipment to Britain went from Lvov through Poland. The general course of study lasted three weeks.

The serviceman says that in Svyatogorsk he and his colleagues lived at a camp site. The command sent them to the position in order to hold the defense. However, as soon as they appeared in positions, an intense battle began. Russian units bypassed them from the flanks, as a result of which the military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine trained in Britain could only surrender. This happened in December 2022.

Recall that earlier the Ministry of Defense of Poland announced its intention to halve the training period for Ukrainian tankers to gain operational skills tanks Leopard 2. According to some reports, Polish instructors are going to spend no more than 5 days training one Ukrainian soldier.

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ivan1979nkl

+24

2 February 2023 06: 17

A group of Ukrainian soldiers who were training in Britain surrendered

taught to surrender correctly, without harm to health
1. Olaf Uksimae
  
  +26
  
  2 February 2023 06: 22
  
  No, it's our brothers who don't leave them a chance to apply their knowledge.
  1. ARIONkrsk
    
    +4
    
    2 February 2023 07: 43
    
    Quote: Olaf Uximae
    No, it's our brothers who don't leave them a chance to apply their knowledge.
    
    Now they will become brothers only if we take Kyiv and change the government.
    1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      
      +18
      
      2 February 2023 08: 02
      
      Quote from ARIONkrsk
      Now they will become brothers only if we take Kyiv and change the government.
      
      It's about the attackers!)
  2. IL-18
    
    +6
    
    2 February 2023 11: 36
    
    It's just that these guys were hoping that while they were being trained in Britain, the Russians would quickly win and they would stay there.
    Not fused.
    1. The comment was deleted.
2. dauria
  
  +21
  
  2 February 2023 08: 58
  
  taught to surrender correctly,
  
  Well done Englishmen. First they showed a piece of heavenly life in England through a gap in the fence. And then they say - "You have to stand to death and die so that we continue to live like this" Yeah, right now. Found fools.
  1. Petr_Koldunov
    
    +7
    
    2 February 2023 09: 15
    
    Quote: dauria
    First they showed a piece of heavenly life in England through a gap in the fence. And then they say - "You have to stand to death and die so that we continue to live like this" Yeah, right now. Found fools.
    
    And here, by the way, it is quite logical. Among the heavenly booths, one cannot prepare for death. Cooldown, apathy, envy, decreased motivation, unwillingness to leave heaven for hell - arise instantly!
    If NATO wants to train soldiers for the ukrovermacht, then NATO instructors themselves must come and train them on Ukrainian territory, preferably closer to the theater of operations. Then the soldier will not be pulled out of bad conditions, and he will not see another life.
    But NATO instructors will not go. Smart. They will motivate this by the fact that you cannot bring the educational resource and matbase with you :))
  2. South Ukrainian
    
    +6
    
    2 February 2023 12: 41
    
    Quote: dauria
    Well done Englishmen. First they showed a piece of heavenly life in England through a gap in the fence.
    
    So what is life like there? She was heavenly about 30 years ago.
  3. Wizzzard
    
    -4
    
    2 February 2023 14: 27
    
    What else heavenly life??? The most honest TV in the world has already shown how the British are dying of hunger and cold. And their women go to the panel to get even with their heating bills.
    1. Krivobokoff
      
      +3
      
      2 February 2023 14: 49
      
      And can I watch this story from TV, or should I take the word "the most honest commentator"?
  4. Slavianin_37
    
    +4
    
    2 February 2023 16: 24
    
    Is this the first time I hear about heavenly life in England? Is it really that cool? Is that why crowds of people run around the streets with placards?
3. Pravodel
  
  +3
  
  2 February 2023 11: 35
  
  taught to surrender correctly, without harm to health
  
  The impudent Saxons teach well, and the students perfectly apply the acquired knowledge.
  1. Zoldat_A
    
    +7
    
    2 February 2023 12: 37
    
    Quote: The Truth
    taught to surrender correctly, without harm to health
    
    The impudent Saxons teach well, and the students perfectly apply the acquired knowledge.
    
    I won’t say anything about the British, but in the American document, which we call the “Combat Charter”, it is quite definitely stated that in the event of an imminent threat of death, it is necessary to surrender in order to save life. Further, the rules of behavior in captivity are described in detail - to answer all questions, not to provoke the enemy to use force, etc. Knowledge of English is sufficient to read it in the original.
    I don’t remember verbatim, I read it on the Internet for a long time, and I’m too lazy to look for a link, but that’s the meaning.
    
    I don’t know about Russian, I haven’t read it. There was nothing of the kind in the Soviet Charter.
    
    For three weeks, they were trained in this particular section of the American Combat Manual.
4. Last centurion
  
  +9
  
  2 February 2023 13: 03
  
  IMHO, you just need to post a price list: for example, if you give up with a gun, you get a Russian passport, a ban on leaving the Russian Federation for 10 years and 1 million rubles of lifting and social mortgages in the Far East region, live a peaceful life. You come to hand over a tank or an infantry fighting vehicle, another lemon on top. It can be seen that now an inert population is forcibly driven there with kicks, which may well be useful and which has a detachment behind their backs ... For example, the same tank crew with a white flag climbs out, in addition to the driver, with hands raised on the armor and, turning the gun back, move forward to surrender ... Baofengs everyone has...
dmi.pris1

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2 February 2023 06: 20

One thing was "taught" Another is a real fight. However, it's good for everyone. Some remained alive, others completed the task.
1. Vladimir_2U
  
  +10
  
  2 February 2023 06: 59
  
  In Geyrop, it was not possible to gain a foothold, I did not want to go to Bandera, the "Russian-Orcs" (irony) had to surrender! In principle, it’s better than somersaulting in a pan with a bandera ...
  1. Alexander 3
    
    +9
    
    2 February 2023 07: 42
    
    Well, last time I wrote that after training the warriors' coming out, they immediately went uphill if they were alive, but they downvoted me.
    1. Vladimir_2U
      
      0
      
      2 February 2023 08: 30
      
      Quote: Alexander 3
      Well, last time I wrote that after training the warriors' coming out, they immediately went uphill if they were alive, but they downvoted me.
      
      No prophet... Yes, and you wrote most likely too formally.
    2. Nyrobsky
      
      +6
      
      2 February 2023 10: 51
      
      Quote: Alexander 3
      Well, last time I wrote that after training the warriors' coming out, they immediately went uphill if they were alive, but they downvoted me.
      
      So the followers of the ukrobanderlogs minus those who graze here. In their opinion, any Selyuk who has joined training according to the NATO standard becomes an "invincible cyborg" and, if he gets to the front line, will tear the "hordes of orcs" with his teeth, and you took and nullified their dreams and expectations with your forecasts. And today I’m looking at one of the schenevmerliks has already been marked with a minus to your comment.
voice of reason

+3

2 February 2023 06: 22

Excellent training, what can I say. If things continue like this, let them cook more. And yes, you can be captured immediately on the "leopard" if anything ...
But seriously, it also means that the very "reserve" that was being prepared for the next imitation of the offensive, for reporting to the Western masters, nevertheless began to slowly pull. There are not enough already mobilized and territorial defenses to plug all the holes at the front.
1. Egoza
  
  +14
  
  2 February 2023 06: 48
  
  Quote: voice of reason
  There are not enough already mobilized and territorial defenses to plug all the holes at the front.
  
  There is still a reserve of those who left. In the same Poland. But try to get it! ))) However, I wouldn't be surprised if the Poles kicked out from there, like other countries. Maybe it's better to stay there? And the "Ukrainians" will dissolve like sugar in tea.
  1. dmi.pris1
    
    +5
    
    2 February 2023 07: 00
    
    Poles are recruiting, and quite aggressively among those who received the "Pole's card" for the war .. Polish citizenship must also be "signed with blood"
  2. Egeny
    
    0
    
    2 February 2023 07: 02
    
    You did it well - "sugar in tea"
  3. Reptiloid
    
    +2
    
    2 February 2023 09: 39
    
    Quote: Egoza
    ...... And the "Ukrainians" will dissolve like sugar in tea.
    What they dreamed about --- they would become gay people, forget MOV and Ukraine forever and come up with a new biography
    1. Xnumx vis
      
      +2
      
      2 February 2023 10: 02
      
      Quote: Reptiloid
      Quote: Egoza
      ...... And the "Ukrainians" will dissolve like sugar in tea.
      What they dreamed about --- they would become gay people, forget MOV and Ukraine forever and come up with a new biography
      
      Who asked them what they dreamed of .. Who needs their thoughts and beliefs .. Moreover, they take people from the Eastern, Russian-speaking part of Ukraine and from Transcarpathia to Vsuk .. Zapadentsev Lviv-Ternopil cherish, Kiyan cherish .. The rest are cannon fodder. Three weeks of cuffs from instructors in the UK and go ahead to die!
      1. Reptiloid
        
        +1
        
        2 February 2023 13: 31
        
        Who asked them...
        
        What is it about. Who fled to geyropu, who stayed, who was buried .... different fates
2. fiberboard
  
  +5
  
  2 February 2023 07: 41
  
  By the way, now they pay 10 million rubles for the destruction of a Leopard or Abrams. You just need to announce: the Ukrainian crew that surrendered along with Leo and Abram will receive 1 million. dollars. For tanks of Soviet types 500 thousand dollars. The war will not last long.
  1. Argon
    
    -1
    
    2 February 2023 08: 09
    
    Nope. It will be stupid. Because of a million dollars, they will cherish and run after them with a request to give up. Dill is on hand.
3. Argon
  
  +1
  
  2 February 2023 08: 03
  
  The leadership considered that if they were studying in geyropa, then they were already Rambo and threw them into the cauldron. Hollywood failed! The warriors immediately sensed what was happening and Rambo is so-so from them.
Mwg

+9

2 February 2023 06: 26

A group of Ukrainian soldiers who were training in Britain surrendered in Donbass a few minutes after the start of the battle
- that's right. We learned the most important thing from the Angles - let others fight. Let others be told too. So, you look, and fashionable tanks will be brought to us.
rotmistr60

+4

2 February 2023 06: 27

captured, he and his colleagues surrendered after about 20 minutes of battle
Yesterday, some obviously pro-Ukrainian commentators diligently asserted that even reduced training at NATO bases gives an advantage to the military forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, incl. and the training of Leopard tank crews under a program halved. The article talks about those who took a full (not reduced) training course, but what will happen to the so-called "abortionists" (abbreviated course)? And this is infantry, whose training is significantly different from the training of tank crews.
Polish instructors are going to spend no more than 5 days training one Ukrainian serviceman.
1. Guran33 Sergey
  
  +5
  
  2 February 2023 06: 42
  
  5 days .. quite enough to remember the names of the devices and pull the control levers at the training ground .. If you want to live, you won’t get so upset .. At the beginning of the operation, leaflets were fired, and now these “ten million” are distributed to them and showered with instructions on the surrender of “scrap metal” "
  1. Egeny
    
    +2
    
    2 February 2023 07: 09
    
    "remember the names of devices", in English or Deutschesprache?
    I read somewhere that a monkey was taught to fly on a light aircraft ...
    At first everything went well, but it ended badly: the chimpanzee in flight remembered that she forgot to "pull" the propeller.)
  2. Carat
    
    +6
    
    2 February 2023 07: 11
    
    Quote: Guran33 Sergey
    5 days .. quite enough to remember the names of the devices and pull the control levers at the training ground.
    
    In my opinion, it was about reducing the course from 10 to 5 weeks. Where the author took 5 days is not clear.
    1. pharmacist
      
      +1
      
      2 February 2023 08: 39
      
      Reminds me of a meme depicting the literature of teaching foreign languages: "Japanese in three months", "Japanese in three weeks", "You already know Japanese."
      At the same time, everyone understands that no matter how much you write, it takes years.
2. nickname7
  
  -2
  
  2 February 2023 07: 26
  
  training of tank crews of "Leopards" under the program halved.
  
  If the tankers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine went through the war, then they don’t need to be specially trained, it’s enough to teach them which levers and buttons to press.
  1. Poplar
    
    +3
    
    2 February 2023 11: 51
    
    Disagree with you. In battle, many actions are performed "on the machine", and you can hardly develop automatism in a month or so.
Cat Alexandrovich

+2

2 February 2023 06: 40

And "group" is how many people (pieces)? I don't think it's a big military secret. But they never make it clear. M.b. group is 100 people. Or two?
1. Egeny
  
  -1
  
  2 February 2023 07: 15
  
  It's easier for two to come to an agreement than for half a company.
glock-17

+6

2 February 2023 06: 42

I wonder if they will introduce a course for kamikaze pilots? Takeoff, terrain orientation, landing is optional.
1. Carat
  
  +5
  
  2 February 2023 07: 13
  
  Quote: Glock-17
  Takeoff, terrain orientation, landing is optional.
  
  Our air defense will help to land the plane correctly.
Kurganets-45

+9

2 February 2023 06: 47

That's right, they were taught to storm, and not to defend, that's our authority, as they say :)
Bingo

+7

2 February 2023 06: 51

They taught to fight on their own head, that is, they do not go to the slaughter like therorams, but assess the situation. And if the situation is "everyone has arrived"? They did the right thing - in a hopeless situation
1. glock-17
  
  +1
  
  2 February 2023 07: 05
  
  I once had a chance to talk with one American captured by the Germans in the Battle of the Bulge. He said their platoon took refuge in the house after shelling. After a while, a German truce came up to them and offered to surrender, otherwise the house would have been demolished by artillery. The situation is hopeless and the decision to surrender was taken by vote. He returned home after captivity and remained a hero. No one condemned him for being taken prisoner.
  1. Bingo
    
    +3
    
    2 February 2023 08: 02
    
    So I also wrote without jokes. This meat in a trench doesn’t understand shit, they waved a barrel in front of its nose with a cry of “surrendered, we’ll shoot,” so he sits and believes that the commander, who had hit his slippers in the rear a long time ago, will find him and be sure to shoot him
Ezekiel 25-17

+4

2 February 2023 06: 54

Three weeks ... The course of a young fighter should be 3 months.
1. Egeny
  
  -1
  
  2 February 2023 07: 23
  
  Well, Andrey, you will also say - for three months to feed, water, teach ... by the end of the "training" they will no longer be needed on the outskirts. Well, if only as part of the Polish militias.
aybolyt678

+3

2 February 2023 07: 09

According to some reports, Polish instructors are going to spend no more than 5 days training one Ukrainian soldier.
but this phrase looks a lot like disinformation, just like they once said that they would not give heavy weapons ..... everyone will give both aviation and missiles
does it make sense to train a tanker for 5 days? it's like expensive tanks! or maybe their task is to quickly knock out German tanks in order to quickly switch to American ones? to download the American military-industrial complex?
1. Burma6
  
  0
  
  2 February 2023 08: 38
  
  It's 5 weeks and it's probably more intense than regular training with less downtime. But still, there is hardly enough time to get acquainted with the tank, even for an experienced tanker.
  
  For example, in the Swiss army tank training lasts 18 weeks. And this is already very fast compared to the German army.
yuriy1863

-2

2 February 2023 07: 14

And I thought that after the exchange of the Mariupol "Azov" people, ours did not take anyone prisoner.
Denis812

+2

2 February 2023 07: 17

Continued in the interview:
- What did they teach you in England?
- What to do if the group is bypassed from the rear
- Did they teach you what to do if they go around from the flank?
- No. Russian soldiers use vicious, insidious tactics not contemplated by truly democratic wars.
1. Metallurg_2
  
  -1
  
  2 February 2023 07: 22
  
  When you hear the words "laws and customs of war" - it becomes ridiculous. Well, there are no laws or customs in war
ivan2022

+1

2 February 2023 07: 35

In the 21st century, the War has finally lost its halo of holiness. Only business.
Even the hohlivs, famous for their trademark cunning, have finally begun to realize that toying with the idea of a "holy war for Freedom" - in our time - means "losing face". And become famous all over the world as complete cretins.
Alex242

0

2 February 2023 07: 38

A Ukrainian prisoner of war (his name is given - Artyom Kovalenko) reported that he and his colleagues surrendered after about 20 minutes of the battle east of Svyatogorsk.

a good decision, the sooner the better (in this case, you will stay alive ..)
Dilettante grandfather

-3

2 February 2023 08: 01

According to some reports, Polish instructors are going to spend no more than 5 days on training one Ukrainian soldier.
Why is it taking so long? They let the driver drive back and forth, about a hundred meters, they let him shoot a couple of shells, and what else is there to teach? Anyway, the majority won’t have time to do more on the battlefield, so why waste Polish time?
Viktor Sergeev

0

2 February 2023 08: 06

Well, the guys stayed in a peaceful environment, they probably received normal money, which means they are not fools. Although what can be taught in 3 weeks I do not understand.
rocket757

+3

2 February 2023 08: 11

A group of Ukrainian soldiers who were training in Britain surrendered in Donbass a few minutes after the start of the battle
. One thing is obvious... they give up, most of them, just to save their lives!!! They retain their spirit and hope to defeat us, and they are stubbornly waiting for the West to help them.
What conclusions can be drawn from this??? Different, but all with the same shade, which is not good for us!!!
Bronik

0

2 February 2023 08: 21

Probably such training in the British school: I saw the enemy close, so it's time to give up ..
APASUS

+1

2 February 2023 08: 49

He was trained in Britain, Poland or Madagascar, he wants to live the same way. Moreover, apparently, Ukrainians, under the pressure of propaganda and the SBU, understand their position
Lena Petrova

0

2 February 2023 09: 20

Once again confirmation of the rule: - Control the flanks, watch the rear!
aszzz888

0

2 February 2023 09: 24

A group of servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who returned to Ukraine after undergoing training at the British base of Workop was captured.
Take photos and film and distribute to protesters in naglia. There now the strikers have fun! For variety, so to speak. You look, and new questions will appear from them, to their own government.
perun1988

0

2 February 2023 09: 30
They were definitely taught by the British, and not by the French?
T800-101

0

2 February 2023 09: 48

The British, who spent the entire Second World War sitting on their island and hiding from the bombing, are taught to fight. The result is a bit predictable - 20 minutes of combat. Prepare quick-shooters, so to speak.
Vadim Topal Pasha

0

2 February 2023 10: 51

Quote from Egeni
"remember the names of devices", in English or Deutschesprache?
I read somewhere that a monkey was taught to fly on a light aircraft ...
At first everything went well, but it ended badly: the chimpanzee in flight remembered that she forgot to "pull" the propeller.)

Monkey is what! There is gossip that someone tried to teach blondes too! /neighing/ :)
(I know who Svetlana Savitskaya is and what she could do in outer space with URI and in the air with a supersonic fighter. So I'm just joking) :)
Vadim Topal Pasha

0

2 February 2023 10: 56

Five days to train a tanker is beyond good and evil. But! Not the fact that we translated correctly.
If we are talking about a purely polygon retraining of someone who was already a tanker before and completed a course of theoretical training to change an armored object, then everything is not so bad. For even during the Cold War, the annual arrival of NATO mechanics was 6-8 hours, and other crew members - 2-4. Cleanly maintain previously acquired skills. Since then, trainers have come a long way.
decimalegio

-1

2 February 2023 11: 12

I must say that you and the Ukrainians should have different directors and authors, the plots are always the same. 1) from the Ukrainian side, """a stupid Russian soldier who does not know why he was forcibly mobilized in Ukraine according to the draft type"""""".
2) On the Russian side, """ a frightened Ukrainian soldier who can't wait to surrender in order to live and embrace the Russian world""""".
For us who are hungry for news, you might have something new.
1. 75 Sergey
  
  0
  
  3 February 2023 00: 39
  
  We are waiting for only good news for us.
  And you do not care, if only there was more blood and chernukha.
  1. decimalegio
    
    0
    
    4 February 2023 11: 57
    
    Everyone wants good news. But when they are always the same, they are boring. However, I understand that some people love sequels. We must please them too. Good weekend.
Puskarinkis

0

2 February 2023 11: 39

They sat in the trenches for 20 minutes because they were not taught to surrender!
garik77

0

2 February 2023 13: 50

British military specialists professionally trained xoxls in competent surrender. Without excesses and losses.
1. Metallurg_2
  
  0
  
  2 February 2023 21: 12
  
  British instructors should be assigned by a closed decree an extraordinary military rank through the SVR / GRU / FSB (delete the unnecessary).
withoutreverse

+7

2 February 2023 18: 23

Well, what can I say .. who studied what.
Prisoner

0

2 February 2023 19: 42

It seems that after 08.08.08 NATO made changes to the training methodology. Now they don't run away - it's useless. Give up immediately.
The comment was deleted.
75 Sergey

0

3 February 2023 00: 37

The right decision is to surrender, we don't need their blood.
Grits

0

3 February 2023 12: 09

That's just one fact that confuses - how did our troops, to whom this Khokhloboy surrendered, end up in the Svyatogorsk region? Moreover, the prisoner said that ours embraced the city from the flanks. Some kind of nonsense - ours from Svyatogorsk "regrouped" immediately after Balakleya and Izyum. Yes, so fast that even the names of the settlement did not have time to remember. Whom did they embrace and capture there?
Yun Klob

0

3 February 2023 22: 22

Tankers, - "takeoff and landing"