Military correspondents wrote about the attempt to escape the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from positions near Makeevka in the LPR

In the area of ​​the settlement of Izyum, the movement of a column of Ukrainian troops is observed. According to military correspondents, wheeled and tracked military equipment were seen on the march, the transportation of boxes of ammunition and towed artillery pieces was recorded.

According to sources, Soviet-style artillery pieces were towed. In the area of ​​​​the settlement of Makeevka (Luhansk People's Republic), cases of unauthorized abandonment of positions by Ukrainian military personnel were recorded.

It is known that Ukrainian militants tried to cross the Zherebets River. However, they were noticed by the barrage detachments of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and opened fire on the moving ones. As a result, three servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were killed, after which the fugitives were forced to return to their positions.

Thus, the news from the front testifies to the deterioration of the moral and psychological climate in the Ukrainian formations. The mobilized Ukrainians do not want to fight, because they see what impressive losses the Armed Forces of Ukraine have been suffering lately. The only thing that keeps the soldiers at the front is the fear of reprisals from the barrage detachments, staffed by nationalists.

Meanwhile, another wave of mobilization in the Armed Forces of Ukraine is being carried out in Ukrainian cities. Men of fighting age are simply caught on the streets, using even ambulances for this. The raids on conscripts show that in Ukrainian society, far from all citizens are ready to voluntarily fight for the regime of Vladimir Zelensky, risking their lives.

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[Silver99]

Hmmm, can you believe it 100%? I have another question in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, those who were mobilized from parts of the territory of Kherson and Zaporozhye, already under the protectorate of Russia and possibly even received new passports after the referendum, serve in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and something I have not heard about their mass transition to the side of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. There, the psychology of the Mazepysh, nothing has changed in 300 years since the Battle of Poltava, only power can cool them down, only power !!!

[Proxima]

For almost a year now, I'm tired of hearing how the spirit of Ukrainian soldiers is rapidly declining, and the entire army of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is about to run to surrender. We do not respect ourselves and deceive ourselves by replicating isolated cases of surrender to the entire army of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

[The black]

Hmmm, can you believe it 100%?

I agree. Hard to believe.
That's what they could mistakenly take for ours, it's possible. And what are the detachments really shooting at the retreating ... Are they immortal?
They will be stupidly thrown down later, when they find out that the "fighter" was like that. Own. Yes, and the use of detachment barriers on the front line is nonsense .... This was born in the inflamed brains of our "liberals" when they said that during the Second World War, detachments stood behind our penal companies.

[Bingo]

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And what about the detachments really shooting at the retreating ... Are they immortal?

I'll tell you a secret, they've had this crap since the age of 14. Already in the 14th, there were both detachments and "special departments" in the units - they simply sent blackshirts to the unit, they followed the political force there, yeah. As for the immortals, since the same 14th year they have had skirmishes between the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Nazis. They themselves said that under Marik, before the NWO, in the sense. Well, they lost more in the shootouts of Dung with the Marines than from the militias

[The black]

I'll tell you a secret, they've had this crap since the age of 14. Already in the 14th, both detachments and "special departments" were in units - they simply sent blackshirts to the unit

Thank you. Enlightened. But "special officers or special detachments (call it whatever you like) is one thing .... and a detachment on the front line is another. ... What prevents our fighters from wetting, for example, with artillery against detachments, and not along the first line of trenches, where the Armed Forces of Ukraine are sitting, ready to surrender ...

As for the immortals, since the same 14th year they have had skirmishes between the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Nazis.

... except when drunk or when sharing the loot ....

[Bingo]

Quote: Black

But "special officers or special detachments (call it whatever you like) is one thing .... and a detachment on the front line is another.

You didn’t understand, these “specialists” in the unit were tired of executions, as the dill themselves said. On the front line, including - the same Mariupol marines had this. To the line of contact - half an hour on foot

[Fintiflushkin]

On December 16, 1942, the 350th SD crossed the Don. They ran back under German fire. The machine-gun fire of the detachment showed the true path, the soldiers turned on the Germans and broke through the front with a lot of blood. About 10 years ago, a veteran of the division, who served as a medical instructor, personally told me about this. In general, she spoke about the military path, she also told this. So detachments are not an invention.

[Region-25.rus]

About 10 years ago, a veteran personally told me about this

but about how Stalin personally shot the "veteran" did not tell you?

So detachments are not an invention.

who said it was fiction? Guard detachments with us, field gendarmerie with the Germans, military police with the Americans. I'll tell you a big secret - it's basically the same thing. The same tasks. And by the way, the Nazis had their own penalties (if anything). Under the command of a ghoul named Oscar Dirlewanger (google if not too lazy). And the conditions there were much tougher than in the penalty box in the Red Army. And yes, look for what the barrage detachments were doing in the Red Army. At what distance from the front line they acted, the number of personnel, tasks, who and for what they shot (not from machine guns, but from personal weapons and in front of the ranks) .... What am I talking about? And besides, you need to turn on your head and not eat feces from TV shows like "Shtrafbat" (stupid cranberry) Or, according to your "logic", behind each military unit on the front line was the same one with machine guns in the rear? And just waiting for the moment to shoot at your own?

[Fintiflushkin]

"This was born in the inflamed brains of our" liberals "," and who said that it was fiction? We have detachments" - both of them were written by you. You will decide somehow, my dear.

[Fintiflushkin]

And yes: for lack of arguments, you are talking about some kind of cranberries and TV shows. I was told by a living participant in the events. December 16, 1942, an attack across the Don near Novaya Kalitva. The detachment met with machine-gun fire the Red Army men who had run back.
But most of all, the medical instructor remembered the battles near Kharkov, it seems - under the ram. there their hospital, the wounded, were mixed with the ground by German tanks; the storyteller's friend and countrywoman was cut in half by a fragment of an air bomb when they were both lying in a funnel, she remembered for the rest of her life and then lied to the girl's parents that she had buried her. And there was nothing to bury and no one - the living ran across the Seversky Donets ford, and there the water was red with blood, because the Germans were already on both banks, and they had to go back and hide in the forest; and then for a long time - the environment and the hardest shell shock.
You, as I understand it, are from the current pro-government "patriots" who have anything in their eyes - everything is dew, the main thing is to lick the leader and your favorite party well? unreasonably insulting, I can insert a link to the award documents here.

[Region-25.rus]

I was told by a living participant in the events

I understand this is the main argument? So I can make up a ton of drop dead stories, especially if it's on the agenda I remember how during perestroika many "changed their shoes in the air" and began to carry such nonsense .. and yes. The word "argumentation" is not about you

[Fintiflushkin]

"So I can make up a ton of awesome stories," so you make up stories here? why are you here)))))) so, in your opinion, were there detachments or not? otherwise you write "were" in one place and "no" in another. And the stories of veterans about the war - do you think they can not be trusted? one should read the newspaper Pravda.

[Li17]

Quote: Region-25.rus

I was told by a living participant in the events

I understand this is the main argument? So I can make up a ton of drop dead stories, especially if it's on the agenda I remember how during perestroika many "changed their shoes in the air" and began to carry such nonsense .. and yes. The word "argumentation" is not about you

it’s ugly for you, now there are no longer living participants in the Second World War, which means you don’t need to believe it. I had to hear a lot of things from real participants, primarily from my grandparents. I noticed one thing, they did not like to talk about that time, probably because everything was really not cinematic. But the stories that they sometimes recalled over a glass, and without any bragging, rather, even with longing from the experience! They told a lot of things, there were detachments, there were executions on the spot, my grandfather ran and spliced ​​the cable, not because he was a hero (I read about it in the award in the declassified archive), because in any case there would be one end! And the commander (or rather the political instructor) could put it on the spot! Why go far, remember my wars, and that everything is known to society? Yes, and our SVO, this is generally the height of cynicism and stupidity, by and large according to the stories, but according to the briefings and newspapers, "true" - we are everywhere and everyone ..... And as for perestroika, you know how it hurt them, because in fact they betrayed! Actually, like everyone else!

[Nikolay310]

There is the psychology of the Mazepysh, nothing has changed in 300 years since the Battle of Poltava
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where is there? in Kherson? or in Ukraine as a whole? if nothing has changed since the time of Mazepa, where did 2000 Heroes of the Soviet Union from Ukrainians come from during the Great Patriotic War?

I don’t know about 300 years ... but that over the 8 years kindly provided to them by one eternally deceived "respected partners" character, the population of Ukraine has been very much changed by propaganda, this is a fact ... in addition, after several "gestures of goodwill" and " planned regroupings", which ended in the corpses of civilians who believed in the Russian Federation, a not very smart character can expect some kind of rise in love for the Russian Federation ... you often exchange people for grain deals and ammonia pipelines ...


By the way, it would be very interesting to know how many battalions were formed from the liberated lands of the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions as part of the RF Armed Forces ??? something mass desires to fight for their new Motherland cannot even be seen from these lands ... but we will poke our fingers at those who remained there ...

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote from Silver99

I have another question in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, those who were mobilized from parts of the territory of Kherson and Zaporozhye, already under the protectorate of Russia, and perhaps even received new passports after

Oh, and you have a wild imagination. Those who received passports in Kherson, in the region in the part that we left, simply did not have time to get them, were evacuated and simply could not get to UA. And in the Zaporozhye region. we don't seem to be backing down.

Quote from Silver99

There, the psychology of the Mazepysh, nothing has changed in 300 years since the Battle of Poltava, only power can cool them down, only power !!!

Well, if you know history well, then you should know that not all the inhabitants of the outskirts followed Mazepa, there were those who remained loyal to Peter-1 and took part in the Battle of Poltava on his side.
And a reminder to you - during the Second World War, the Heroes of the USSR, in terms of numbers, only Russians were more than Okraintsy.

[Two diplomas]

Well, I will add. Dividing into okraintsy and Russians is like dividing eggs into right and left, but in the end one and the same bolt. At the 1915 census, at least no Ukrainians were observed, solid Little Russians, and only the "brilliant" Ilyich invented a new nationality, he worked out the German pfennings.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

The outskirts of the Second World War and the outskirts of "independent Ukraine" are two different peoples. You would still remember the times of Napoleon. Soviet suburbanites fought for their homeland. ,, independent ,, okraintsy- wash toilets in the EU and sell their history and even the Orthodox faith.

[Geosun]

I don’t think that anyone with Russian passports is left, except perhaps very old people. Do you think they did not understand that it would not be possible to hide it, and the SBU would knock on them, especially after what happened in the territories we left behind.

[Fudor]

what to believe - you need to be at the scene of events, and not sit and reason - I believe I do not believe. Go fight and find out.

[Khibiny Plastun]

In order to demoralize the enemy army, it is necessary to cut it off from supplies, and for this it is necessary to destroy bridges across the Dnieper, a grouping of this size cannot be provided using pontoon crossings. That's when the Bandera will have nothing to shoot with, and it's a problem to devour, you won't particularly rob on the front end. That's when Karachun will be. And our "calibers" and "Iskanders" are spent on transformer boxes. Although it is already clear that the military infrastructure will be provided with energy even by turning off civilian facilities. But the bridges across the Dnieper stand as if they were tabooed.

[Fintiflushkin]

Bridges across the Dnieper in the rear. even if they are destroyed, after a while the message will be restored by pontoon bridges. The supply of the Ukrainian army will not suffer.

[The black]

Bridges across the Dnieper in the rear. even if they are destroyed, after a while the message will be restored by pontoon bridges. The supply of the Ukrainian army will not suffer.

Yeah ... to supply a group of thousands of people with ammunition, food, etc. over pontoon bridges ..... no, it won't hurt ..

[Khibiny Plastun]

When you write such nonsense, at least put a smiley, do you really think that people are not familiar with mathematics? How much does 1000 155 mm shells weigh? How much does a tank weigh, how much does a daily grub weigh for one brigade? It is not so difficult to calculate and immediately understand that without bridges it simply cannot be delivered. To the front.

[Two diplomas]

Well, as it gradually turns out, the infrastructure 404 does not belong to her, but her friends easily.

[Epaulettes]

Mobilized Ukrainians do not want to fight

Whether business at us! Here, all of the 300 have itchy hands, how would they fight.

[Bingo]

The mobilization was completed a long time ago, but everyone goes to the volunteers - they even made a special form, an application form, for this at the MFC. But with YOU - yes ... And that’s the thing, and that’s all the same, it’s all the same in a tight snarl into a brilliant win, not transforming

[Asad]

So if there was a queue in the military registration and enlistment offices, why should the MFC place forms? And banners advertising MO and Wagner? And please, the number of the order to complete the mobilization.

[Bingo]

Known cases of subpoenas? Or at the border someone was wrapped up from the military? Let's also give examples. The official statement of the Minister of Defense - is suddenly - official

[Epaulettes]

Quote from Bingo

The mobilization was completed a long time ago, but everyone goes to the volunteers - they even made a special form, an application form, for this at the MFC. But with YOU - yes ... And that’s the thing, and that’s all the same, it’s all the same in a tight snarl into a brilliant win, not transforming

I am Russian and live in Russia.
As for the fact that the mobilization is over - it shouldn't have happened at all. Do you remember what our President said about mobilization when the NWO had just begun? Or remind you?
So as it is finished, it can start again at any moment.

[Bingo]

Quote: Shoulder straps

As for the fact that the mobilization is over - it shouldn't have happened at all.

From what? The army of peacetime and the army of the country conducting hostilities are different armies. And it is precisely the mobilization of the nearest reserve in terms of losses that is much better than sending conscripts to the front who have not trampled in boots for a year

[Epaulettes]

Quote from Bingo

Quote: Shoulder straps

As for the fact that the mobilization is over - it shouldn't have happened at all.

From what?

That's why here -

[Vladimir Iv]

"Everything flows, everything changes." Then "civilized Europe" was "not going" to fight and supply so many weapons and mercenaries to Ukraine. At least that's what they hoped. What do you suggest in such a situation?

[Two diplomas]

Do not flatter, there is no Russian in you. It has not been and never will be.

[Fudor]

Quote: Shoulder straps

Mobilized Ukrainians do not want to fight

Whether business at us! Here, all of the 300 have itchy hands, how would they fight.

Take off your shoulder straps, don't be embarrassed.

[fax66]

And the first paragraph in this message - what is it for?

[Petr_Koldunov]

And it certainly wasn’t the delivery of reserves and weapons of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the line of contact, taken by our military correspondents for flight?
They often began to see something that is not really there. I really would not like the word "military correspondents" to become a household word and become synonymous with the word "konashenkov".

[rotmistr60]

Quote: Shoulder straps

I am Russian and live in Russia

Perhaps you live in Russia, but you, along with another one, who Vladimir80 is clearly not Russian in your soul, since you constantly fast for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Carefully so as not to arouse obvious suspicion. Be sure to take a fly in the ointment on the Russian army and a cup of honey on the Ukrainian one.

[Alexander Salenko]

Well, well, they opened fire on them, but is it impossible in response?

[certero]

Some fabulous posts went on the resource.
Propaganda in its worst form, which becomes counter-propaganda when there is really truthful news.

[Fitter65]

Really like in 1944, the Wehrmacht is in the trenches, and the SS is behind them on machine guns.

[isv000]

on the march, wheeled and tracked military vehicles were seen, the transportation of ammunition boxes and towed artillery pieces was recorded.

AND?!! Why is it allowed to drag this all to the end?!

[ch28k38]

Because between "notice" and "destroy" there is some difference in forces and means.

[hump]

Not tired of military officers and others to ship about the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine surrenders and departs. Then why are we trampling. And why zoos from Donetsk and Mariupol began to be evacuated, as from Kherson before surrender

[Pankrat25]

As a result, three servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were killed, after which the fugitives were forced to return to their positions.

But they still don't want to give up! This means that there is only one way out: their complete disposal without any regrets and looking back at the lamentations of the pityers.

[Yaroslav the Wise]

Nazi regime. The detachments do not allow to retreat. If things are so bad, why not surrender? It is not necessary to go in formation with the white in the direction of the Russian troops. You can just wait for the Russian fighters and surrender already in positions. While not offering any resistance. It's just that this doesn't happen. Banderlogs fight fiercely, to the last bullet, to the last grenade. How to deal with such truth?