The last "Shark" of the Russian fleet was sent to Severodvinsk for disposal

The strategic nuclear submarine "Dmitry Donskoy" of project 941UM "Akula", which is the largest nuclear submarine in the world, will be disposed of, the submarine has already been sent to Severodvinsk. This was told by the head of the All-Russian Support Movement fleet (DFT) Vladimir Maltsev.

The last "Shark" of the Russian fleet was sent to Sevmash in anticipation of disposal, the timing of which has not yet been determined. According to Maltsev, everything will depend on funding. "Dmitry Donskoy" has joined two more submarines of this project, the hulls of which are located in Severodvinsk.

Currently, the submarine "Dmitry Donskoy" is awaiting disposal, it will be located in Severodvinsk, along with two other hulls of this project

- leads TASS Maltsev's words.

Information about the preparation of the last Project 941UM Akula submarine missile carrier for decommissioning of the Russian fleet appeared in December last year. Then it was reported that the main crew left the submarine, leaving the technical one on board. The decision to decommission "Dmitry Donskoy" was made a long time ago, the submarine served in the Soviet and Russian fleets for 40 years, it was considered inappropriate to carry out modernization.

The TK-208 Dmitry Donskoy, a heavy nuclear-powered strategic missile submarine, is the lead in a series of six Project 941 Akula submarines. Laid down at Sevmash on June 17, 1976, launched on September 23, 1980, commissioned on December 29, 1981. In 2002, he underwent modernization, after which he took part in the tests of the Bulava missile. Today it is the largest submarine in the world and the last "Shark" of the Russian fleet. Three "Sharks" were disposed of not without the "help" of the United States, two more are in reserve.

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[dmi.pris1]

But to make a museum? Not? This is our history, the largest submarine ..

[your vsr 66-67]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

But to make a museum? Not? This is our history, the largest submarine ..

What are you talking about? Our efficient managers will cut and sell for scrap! And the money received from this "work" will be cut!

[Sharky]

Our efficient managers will cut and sell for scrap! And the money received from this "work" will be cut!

The research ship "Cosmonaut Viktor Patsaev" - the only ship in the world of space communications that has a museum exposition on board, still managed to be saved by some miracle. What if a miracle happens here, but there is little hope .

[your vsr 66-67]

Quote: Sharky

Our efficient managers will cut and sell for scrap! And the money received from this "work" will be cut!

The research ship "Cosmonaut Viktor Patsaev" - the only ship in the world of space communications that has a museum exposition on board, still managed to be saved by some miracle. What if a miracle happens here, but there is little hope .

That's right, WONDERFUL! But there are no miracles!

[white fall]

Managers, not managers, but enough whining - the ship is 40 years old, 30 of which it kept without normal repairs and on parole. Do you know how well salted water metal eats? And how does equipment fall apart without constant repair? And then you start to engage in populism - oh and oh, and the ship has lived its life well and it’s time for it to rest

[Civil]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

But to make a museum? Not? This is our history, the largest submarine ..

Soviet nuclear submarine as an eyesore. A witness to the weakness of the modern builders of capitalism in the former superpower. Witness of a lost advanced civilization. And the witnesses, among the "boys from the 90s", are usually eliminated.

[Vladimir80]

Developed civilizations do not die just like that, in three years...

[-Paul-]

Some are even faster. Atlantis, for example. Cataclysm, you know...

[TerraSandera]

Nothing, they will write off and make armor with this money, a lot, a lot. Well, okay, not Armat, this is not serious, another AWACS aircraft will be built, or several satellites will be launched. Well, or mini kamikaze submarines, or maybe enough for ambles. How many shopping centers can be built? Oh, well, in the sense of factories.

[sergo1914]

Quote: Civil

Quote from: dmi.pris1

But to make a museum? Not? This is our history, the largest submarine ..

Soviet nuclear submarine as an eyesore. A witness to the weakness of the modern builders of capitalism in the former superpower. Witness of a lost advanced civilization. And the witnesses, among the "boys from the 90s", are usually eliminated.

Agree. It is, first of all, memory. But memory is not what the current inhabitants of the Kremlin want to remember. Moreover, they have a banquet today - the birthday of Boris Yeltsin, the spiritual and political father of the current President of the Russian Federation. "I'm tired, I'm leaving, here's a new president for you" ...
PS My father built these boats. He put his hands on everyone. Well, now he does not see this filth.

[dmi.pris1]

A low bow to your father. And also to tens of thousands of Soviet people - scientists, designers, factory workers, military sailors .. This ship should be preserved as a memory, as a monument to these people

[Boa kaa]

Quote: sergo1914

It is, first of all, memory.

This is true. But for me it is primarily A.V. Olkhovikov - Hero of the Soviet Union, who gave the ship a start in life. For eight years, he taught him to "walk", shoot, break heavy Arctic ice, vigilantly stand guard over the Fatherland in autonomies and databases ...
And, secondly, it is a unique MARINE BALLISTIC MISSILE test bed for submarines. SAROV is good for everyone (BPL pr. 20120), but you still won’t test SLBMs on it at sea ... But it’s no secret to anyone that the R-30 is far from perfect and work is already underway on a new SLBM ... Therefore will
we need a sea stand for testing new SLBMs. That you can’t do without it, by the way, the same R-30 confirmed in practice ...
And the last. The system was still called "TYPHOON", not Shark ...
This is so, by the way. AHA.

[Vladimir80]

how about making a museum?

I agree, they could do it in Kronstadt, apparently the money ran out for culture and education ...

[Aviator_]

apparently the money ran out for culture and education ...

The money was spent on monuments to Kolchak and a memorial plaque to Mannerheim. Yes, and churches for the ROC also require money.

[DMFalke]

No one in their right mind will turn a nuclear submarine, and even with two reactors, into a museum. Only diesel-electric ones are exhibited, and other classes, mainly before the atomic era: Iowa, Missouri, Enterprise, Midway, etc.

[Sharky]

No one in their right mind will turn a nuclear submarine, and even with two reactors, into a museum.

That is why the atomic icebreaker "Lenin" stands in Murmansk as a museum. In the shortest possible time, it became the "visiting card" of the Murmansk region and one of the most visited tourist sites in the Kola North.

[Boa kaa]

Quote from DMFalke

Iowa, Missouri Enterprise, Midway, etc.

"Speaking of birds!" (With)
The Enterprise is the world's first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier...
There are similar "monuments of the era" in our country:
- in Novorossiysk - M. Kutuzov (KRL pr. 68 bis);
- in Murmansk - AL "Lenin" (the world's first nuclear-powered icebreaker);
- in Kronstadt - the submarine "Leninsky Komsomol" (our first nuclear submarine, pr. 627).
And in order to know history, you still need to learn ... AHA.

[zloybond]

The money for the maintenance of these museums, the crews to keep them, although not big, are all minus from the budget of the Ministry of Defense. It’s better to get the army out with armor and UAVs equipped with this money - it’s more useless, otherwise the volunteers carry it out - But according to reports, we have everything.

[Alien From]

At least to see from afar, and even to visit the Shark is apparently my pipe dream. It's a pity. My favorite boat, thanks for the service!

[Wbond]

... only pictures will remain in memory ((((

[faiver]

This is not correct, our decision-making center is apparently not quite ours ....

[Pankrat25]

He is sooooooo long time no longer ours, for more than 30 years!

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

The decision to decommission "Dmitry Donskoy" was made a long time ago, the submarine served in the Soviet and Russian fleets for 40 years, it was considered inappropriate to carry out modernization.

That's right, that's capitalist.
We have a war in full swing, oh I'm sorry, NWO. What we can expect from these Western ghouls tomorrow is not at all clear.
But we are dismantling the largest nuclear submarine!
Hooray !!!
And the Bolsheviks, they were fools. Boats, the largest, were built for some reason.
Whether it's a matter now - we don't need planes, boats, ships - we'll buy everything!
Hooray !!!

[Normann]

Is there anything that there are no missiles for this project? its re-equipment will be more expensive than the new Borey or Ash, why is it? Tell everyone that we have the biggest))

[faiver]

its rearmament will be more expensive than the new Borey or Ash

- somehow I don’t believe in it, a convenient excuse that no one can check

[Jcvai]

Modernization or "fencing", reorientation to other tasks ... Yes, even a sightseeing ferry, if only to preserve heritage. Not to mention the options for a mobile headquarters or Poseidons carrier.
In the end, there will be people for whom integrating new units into an existing nuclear submarine will be cheaper and easier than making unique or small-scale “non-analogues” from scratch.

[makmak]

Agree. The main caliber of these cruisers - "Bark" did not take place. Forty years of working as water carriers is not a gift even for the largest nuclear submarine. With such a gigantic displacement and wear and tear, modernization is not realistic.

[TerraSandera]

PPC, it's time to write off submarines during the war with NATO, albeit old ones.

[Pavel73]

Now is the best time to learn something from the Americans. They hold sacred their Iowas, the last battleships of World War II. It is not a sin to follow their example. And keep the last submarine battleship, the largest submarine in the world, as a museum. And cut into metal - there are two more "Sharks".

[makmak]

A good museum when there is something to be proud of - Iowa, Krasin, etc. And then what will the guide tell? How the largest boat sailed for 40 years with empty mines without rockets ... Let's make a museum for the hard worker, pr. 667. Somehow more logical. We have something to be proud of!

[fiv]

I would like to hear from one of the respected colleagues in VO - submariners about whether something interferes with making a museum out of the Shark? After all, this is the greatest brainchild of Soviet science and industry, a significant milestone in the development of the Navy of the USSR and the Russian Federation. Scrapping SUCH A SHIP, if, of course, it can be turned into a museum, is a crime. One SUCH MUSEUM for patriotic education will do a hundred thousand times more than a song for 17 million rubles.

[Serg65]

Quote: fiv

does it interfere with making a museum out of the "Shark"?

I'm wildly sorry, but where is the museum that can accept this exhibit? And yet ... where will Donskoy be docked in 5 years? There are actually a lot of questions ... but at least for these two!

[fiv]

Let the boat itself be a museum. In St. Petersburg, there is the Krasin icebreaker, the S-189 submarine, also a museum, is nearby, the D-2 Narodovolets is a museum boat in the same place, in St. Petersburg.

[Serg65]

Quote: fiv

Let the boat itself be a museum

Fuck the details, what city, brother?

Quote: fiv

In St. Petersburg, there is the Krasin icebreaker, the S-189 submarine, also a museum, is nearby, the D-2 Narodovolets is a museum boat in the same place, in St. Petersburg.

If you put Donskoy against the Neva wall, then you can immediately forget about navigation in the St. Petersburg river!

[faiver]

Can a Shark enter the Neva? Install in the Gulf of Finland, plug in a diesel engine instead of a nuclear power plant and from time to time cruising the Baltic Sea ..

[Serg65]

Quote: faiver

In the Gulf of Finland

If only in the Sea Canal, a good option ..... this will at least help improve the environment in the bay!

[Igor Malyshev]

On the Red Square. in front of GUM. So that those who leave the Towers see her every day.

[Serg65]

Quote: Igor Malyshev

On the Red Square. In front of GUM

Those. are you against Russian ballet?

[Comrade]

Quote: Serg65

where will Donskoy be docked in 5 years?

The question is reasonable.
You can take an example from the Japanese, who buried their battleship "Mikasa" in the ground.

No money ? Let them announce a subscription for those who are not indifferent, there will be those who want to participate.
Let the authorities be ashamed that there is money to write off the debts of blacks, but not to preserve their history.

[Serg65]

Quote: Comrade

You can take an example from the Japanese, who buried their battleship "Mikasa" in the ground.

Well, it will no longer be an exhibit, but a monument!

Quote: Comrade

Let the authorities be ashamed

When you find out how much it will cost the taxpayer to maintain this submarine even in proper condition, then you will hate the authorities even more!

[Igor Malyshev]

No one will ever be able to build something beautiful and formidable! Sorry! Bastards and pests!

[AdAstra]

But, in my opinion, there were as many as seven of them ... It's a pity.

[Igor Malyshev]

Six. The seventh, under an agreement with the FSA, was not allowed to be completed.

[Igor Malyshev]

How the submariners joked - why more? After all, there are six continents on Earth ...

[Serg65]

Quote from AdAstra

Sorry

Of course, it’s a pity, and it’s also a pity for the first Soviet cruiser Kirov, whose tower is now rusting in Almaty, it’s a pity for the last guards Svetlana, the last Gangut ... and even the last Seven, the Chinese have saved it in Port Arthur!

[Graz]

of course, during the conduct of hostilities, writing off such equipment and cutting it into metal is a crime

[Serg65]

Quote: Graz

of course, during the conduct of hostilities, writing off such equipment and cutting it into metal is a crime

Once again I wildly apologize, but how will this military equipment help the Motherland during the hostilities?

[Igor Malyshev]

He apparently thinks that tanks are made from scrap metal ...

[Archivist Vasya]

By your very presence! If the cruiser is still on the move, then it’s generally good, and if it also has a BC on board, this is a bomb.

[Serg65]

Quote: Archivist Vasya

By your very presence!

Well, yes, Americans are stupid! Afraid of a cruiser with empty mines, only they can! There is no BC on it .... and it is not expected!

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Serg65

There is no BC on it .... and it is not expected!

Greetings colleague
For your information:
- the last pencil (SLBM R-39) from the "drawing" set of TPK CH pr. 941 was disposed of in 2012. But the ban on loading them on board was received back in 2004. The maintenance and timing of the replacement of the TSRT is very tough for solid rockets.

[Serg65]

Hello my friend

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

For your information:

Well, that's it! 40 years is already a whole era for a ship, whatever it is!

[2 Level Advisor]

I don’t know how competent a civilian source is? already many times, there was such news - then they denied it, the last one was that it would go before the fuel was used up .. and as for sending it to Severodvinsk, it’s generally interesting why send the boat to where it is already based? I'm not sure if the news is true..

[Volunteer Marek]

We are an unfortunate country, since we cannot afford to make a museum of the Unique Boat. Such, today's Russia, will never build. Ivana, who does not remember relatives. They'll cut it. Money is stolen. There will be no memory left.

[art having]

Cattle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sofievka]

"The Last Parade Is Coming"

[Tests]

level 2 advisor (Nikolay), you are right for 202%, the quality of the message is 3-. The nuclear submarine "Belgorod" is longer than the nuclear submarine of project 941. As "Dmitry Donskoy" lived in Severodvinsk in recent years, he lives, or rather lives ... About the modernization of 2 "Shark" hulls that rot at the pier at the exit from the White Sea naval base to the White Sea This site has been discussed many times. The country is not up to them, just as it is not up to the disposal of the nuclear cruiser Kirov, which is rotting at the Zvezdochka pier in the South Jagry ...
sergo1914 (Sergey) is right ... My dad also built all the "Sharks", and the whole family of my wife (except for herself - she took her leshachok as a teacher), and "Donskoy" was modernized. Indeed, it's good that my dad, my father-in-law and mother-in-law do not see how the country is "Building a fleet of a strong power" ...
And if we talk about sad things ... Yesterday Severodvinsk said goodbye to Nikolai Yakovlevich Kalistratov, the former director of Zvezdochka and Sevmash ... The old woman Galkina has more orders "For Merit to the Fatherland" (2, 3, 4 degrees) than Nikolai Yakovlevich ( he only has 3 and 4 degrees), she fed the country with Lima ...

[digger]

Well, everything seems to be logical ... since two units with the same names cannot be on the lists at the same time ... and the new Dmitry Donskoy, according to the plan, will join the fleet in 2 years ... ALREADY in 2 years the new Donskoy project Borey-A join the fleet. Therefore, the old one went to the scrap. And then a lot of people screamed...

[mark1969]

Break not build. There were examples of the use of unique technology for educational and educational purposes. Talking about the achievements of our fathers and grandfathers is one thing, but preserving and showing the younger generation is a difficult but very necessary task.

[goscha]

The Kremlin dwarfs have nothing to be proud of, they have no achievements, except for the gigantic plunder of the once great country, they have been guzzling for 30 years and can not finish eating ... That's what a big and powerful backlog the Soviet Union had! That is why the Mausoleum is draped, the Sharks are disposed of ... So that our children do not poke them in the eyes - can you repeat it? These can't do anything. These can only steal... So Memory is erased, only stories about galoshes remain.

[George Miloslavsky]

Yes, the largest in terms of displacement and the duration of an autonomous trip. Otherwise, our new boats are the same Belgorod 184 meters, and the Borey-A series is from 170 meters in length, and in terms of armament they will be more modern. Of course, you can’t saw such a boat, it needs to be made into a museum, and not only there aren’t many museums.

[yho]

Who will go to the Severodvinsk Museum to see this submarine? And at whose expense this “banquet” will be, who will pay?

[Archivist Vasya]

Very sad news . Moreover, it is allegedly impractical to modernize, but there is no information that a similar cruiser will replace it. The degradation of the fleet continues, alas.
But is it advisable to modernize Kuznetsov ???

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Archivist Vasya

But is it advisable to modernize Kuznetsov ???

Does he have a replacement? Or let carrier aviation bend to the joy of the Yankees !?

[Nitten]

The titans leave. But if you really create a museum, they will come from all over the world! Payback project. In addition, image, for the country. Why spend billions and invent something when there is something ready? What power and beauty!

[Center]

[Pavel57]

Quote from DMFalke

No one in their right mind will turn a nuclear submarine, and even with two reactors, into a museum. Only diesel-electric ones are exhibited, and other classes, mainly before the atomic era: Iowa, Missouri, Enterprise, Midway, etc.

Aircraft carriers have been turned into museums in the United States and China.