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Will Russia again have a combat laser?

A decree was signed a few weeks ago on the formation of the Advanced Research Foundation (FPI). The purpose of this organization is to promote various defense research papers that require serious government support. According to some sources, in the near future, FPI will replace the Military-Industrial Commission under the government and take over its functions. Most of the details about the work of the new organization have not yet become public knowledge, but there have already been reports of possible projects with which it will be engaged.

Will Russia again have a combat laser?
Aircraft A-60

Izvestia, citing a source in the defense industry, reports that next year the program for research and the creation of combat lasers will be resumed. The Almaz-Antey concern, the TANTK them will be involved in scientific and design work. Gm Beriev and the company "Khimpromavtomatika." It is reported that the Ministry of Defense has already developed its version of the future appearance of the laser weapons and passed the relevant documentation to the organizations involved in the project. The purpose of future work is to create a full-fledged combat system capable of destroying various targets. Obviously, all research will go under the auspices of FPI.

According to reports, the new combat laser project will be conducted on the basis of the old A-60 program, which required the involvement of the Taganrog complex to them. Beriev. In the course of the previous combat laser project, two flying laboratories were built on the basis of the Il-76MD aircraft, on which special equipment was installed. Studies using A-60 aircraft have been conducted since the early eighties, but after the collapse of the Soviet Union, for obvious reasons of a financial nature, their pace slowed down significantly. Now, it seems, there is again money to continue the research.

Also, Izvestia reported that the Taganrog plant recently began work on the repair and modernization of one of the remaining flying laboratories. This plane has not flown for several years and therefore requires some preparation. Soon, as the newspaper writes, citing sources in the TANTK, the Almaz-Antey concern will provide new laser equipment that will replace outdated modules. If everything goes without any problems, the first flight of the updated aircraft can occur as early as next year.

Regarding the status of the project, "Izvestia" provide very interesting information. The publication claims that the modernization of the old 1LK222 laser complex has been completed and the new system is ready for installation at the flying laboratory and subsequent tests. However, it is not yet known how the laser system will look like if it reaches the troops. Likewise, the requirements for an aircraft on which a serial combat laser can be based raise questions. Currently, the only available flying laboratory is based on the IL-76 transport aircraft, which sometimes causes criticism. Often in discussions of the prospects of a combat laser, there are proposals to “transplant” weapons, for example, to a bomber with the appropriate parameters.

However, the question of an aircraft carrier for a combat laser is not as relevant as the question of the need for such equipment. Abroad, there have been several attempts to make a laser device designed for use on airplanes, but only one project reached the testing stage - the American ABL. In the course of work in this direction, American scientists created a Boeing YAL-1 aircraft carrying a BILL high-power chemical laser. According to preliminary ideas, in practice this aircraft was supposed to destroy enemy ballistic missiles in the active part of the flight. For almost ten years of work, the Americans were able to bring the BILL laser to about a megawatt, but at the end of 2011, the project was frozen due to a reduction in the military budget. The ABL program was considered not very promising. However, only a few months later, there was talk of a new ABL launch.

In our country, too, there were projects of laser combat equipment. At the same time, all Soviet complexes, with the exception of the A-60, were mounted on tracked chassis and theoretically intended for use in the ground forces. The Stilett, Sanguinus and Compression complexes were intended to destroy the enemy's optical-electronic systems. It was assumed that the emitter of the land vehicle would “beat” on the optics and thermal imagers of the enemy’s equipment, disabling electronics and blinding the crews. All three projects of the Soviet self-propelled laser self-propelled guns have not gone beyond the test stage of prototypes.

Boeing YAL-1

The aim of the renewable air-based laser program, as reported by Izvestia, will be the creation of a complex designed to destroy enemy aircraft, various types of missiles and other targets that can be “burned through” by the beam. Such an application of a combat laser raises certain questions, primarily related to the feasibility and nuances of practical application. For example, during the development of the American project ABL, the issue of rapprochement of an aircraft and a rocket was repeatedly raised. In some cases, the laser carrier will not be able to detect and attack a ballistic missile in time, without entering the enemy air defense zone. As for the destruction of enemy aircraft or cruise missiles, the ground-to-air and air-to-air missile systems will definitely not surrender their positions over the next few years.

Nevertheless, the subject of combat lasers has certain prospects. The disadvantages of such systems — first of all, the high demands on power sources and the overall high cost of the complex — can be compensated for by relatively simple targeting. The latter is primarily concerned with ground-based laser complexes. At the same time, radically new weapons will require the military to reconsider some views on the conduct of hostilities, the organization of defense or attack. Given the overall complexity of the laser programs, the successful completion of the updated A-60 project will not be easy and quick. So, the military has enough time to prepare for the adoption of a new weapon. Unless, of course, they want to get such a complex and expensive combat tool.

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  1. sv-sakh
    sv-sakh 14 November 2012 09: 31
    Old Russian fun, overtake in development, preserve, and then catch up :)
    1. nokki
      nokki 14 November 2012 10: 02
      Glad my fellow countrymen are back in business! I quote :"Laser 1LK222 is the basis of the entire system of countering aerospace forces. The system has the code name" Sokol-Echelon "and was developed by the concern" Almaz-Antey "and KB" Khimpromavtomatika ". Voronezh residents are engaged in the laser itself, and Muscovites are engaged in control and guidance systems. Experiments with individual units and systems were not interrupted, and in fact the laser is ready in the ground version, according to the enterprises. "
      So what about "catching up" you are wrong!
  2. Ascetic
    Ascetic 14 November 2012 09: 39
    FPI is an analog of the American DARPA. This was Rogozin's initiative.

    Federal Law of 16.10.2012 No. 174-FZ "On the Advanced Research Fund You can see here

    Whether there will be an effect from this organization or all this will turn into another Rusnano and Skolkovo, we will see. The main thing is that instead of a fund for promising research, it does not turn into "Investment pro-eating fund" as we usually have.

    "It is extremely important not to be mistaken here. The figure of the general director, in my opinion - and I will probably propose several candidates to Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev - the figure must be such that this person has universal, very broad, but at the same time deep technical knowledge."

    D. Rogozin.
    Dmitry Rogozin promised that FPI activities will be strictly controlled by internal audit
    1. lonshakovpetr
      lonshakovpetr 14 November 2012 20: 58
      Laser complex "Compression".
  3. Lucky
    Lucky 14 November 2012 10: 59
    Well, let's hope that the experts did not translate into Russia, and again we will surprise the whole world with our breakthrough technologies and show the whole world that we can drink not only vodka, but our heads are bright !!!
    1. rolik
      rolik 14 November 2012 15: 12
      The author so affirmatively writes about the complete hopelessness of such an undertaking that it seems as if he himself were the creator of this system and the like. In fact, most likely, developments in this direction have been conducted all this time. As is customary with enthusiasm, even with minimal or blocked funding from the state. And it will not be surprising if in five years they’ll make a laser installed on an armored personnel carrier platform and capable of burning both rockets and other equipment. After all, everything has always been done for us not because of - but in spite of.
      1. Saburov
        Saburov 14 November 2012 16: 54
        The author, absolutely does not know the history and details of creating the A-60 BLK, the installation itself was made in 1968 and modified until the 78,79, and the first flight was in 1978, and not as written on the 1981 wiki, do not read friends on wikipedia, read fairy tales, they are more plausible. During the 1986 tests, the A-60 complex burned enough American equipment, in principle the complex was ready, it remains to bring to mind the platform and the energy program for it, in the light of today it is feasible.
  4. Dart weyder
    Dart weyder 14 November 2012 11: 11
    like in terms of chemical lasers - the USSR was the leader, let's see what has changed over the years of "stagnation", in any case, this development will be accompanied by certain experience and development in other industries related to this topic, which in turn can bear fruit in other developments!
    1. Nick
      Nick 14 November 2012 22: 43
      Quote: Dart Weyder
      , in any case, this development will be accompanied by certain experience and developments in other industries related to this topic, which in turn can bear fruit in other developments!

      It’s difficult to state, it’s difficult to perceive, but in essence you are right, dear Dmitry.
  5. Slevinst
    Slevinst 14 November 2012 11: 12
    I think if our people seriously take up this matter, everything will be of the top type, the thinking of a Russian person can make the impossible possible; on the laser issue, everything will rest on the financing and interest of the authorities
  6. cucun
    cucun 14 November 2012 11: 20
    This system is not intended as for amers for ballistic missiles, because it's crap. A-60 was built to destroy satellites in low orbits.
    1. Kaa
      Kaa 14 November 2012 11: 56
      Quote: cucun
      A-60 was built to destroy satellites in low orbits.

      It is quite suitable for the destruction of such muck:
      "The X-37B is developed by Boeing. With a take-off weight of almost 5 tons, it is 8,9 m long and 2,9 m high. Small delta wingspan is 4,5 m. Equipped with solar panels to provide electricity."
      According to previous data, the spaceplane is designed to operate at altitudes from 200 to 750 km, is able to quickly change orbits and maneuver. It can carry out reconnaissance missions, deliver small cargoes into space, test new devices, including and used on spy satellites. A number of experts see the X-37B as a prototype of a future space interceptor, which makes it possible to inspect and, if necessary, disable enemy satellites, as well as launch missile and bomb attacks from orbit. The Pentagon denies this and assures that this device is just a "platform for testing new technologies."
      Painfully nimble "kid", while the missile defense missile aims. Will fly, change the orbit, here the laser is just right. And then the last time it hung over Russia, for some reason the fires started ...
      1. rolik
        rolik 14 November 2012 15: 17
        Ours once the American shuttle was beaten with a laser, in the 80s, all electronics were cut off from the mattresses, and they themselves experienced a sharp deterioration in well-being. So, it’s quite possible to repeat, to shoot at a space drone from a laser fusee. It will be very interesting if all his brains fly out. Only here again debris in orbit will increase.
        1. Zynaps
          Zynaps 14 November 2012 23: 18
          Quote: rolik
          Ours once the American shuttle was beaten with a laser, in the 80s, all electronics were cut off from the mattresses

          they didn’t blast, but irradiated. from the ground and fixed station "Terra" in Kazakhstan. Back then, our military people mistakenly believed that the "shuttles" were able to dive from space into the atmosphere in order to deliver pinpoint nuclear strikes on the territory of the USSR. after the scandal and the understanding that the "shuttles" do not know how to dive and dive, they calmed down.
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 14 November 2012 23: 31
            For the Soviet intelligence, the CIA organized a leak of information about the ability of shuttles to “dive” into the Earth’s atmosphere. On the basis of intelligence, a number of domestic specialists gave birth to a version: the “shuttle” could suddenly drop to 80 km and, like a hypersonic plane, perform a side maneuver on 2500 km. Having flown to Moscow, he will destroy the Kremlin with a single blow with a nuclear bomb, deciding the outcome of the war. Moreover, there will be no chance of preventing a similar attack on domestic PKO, ABM or anti-Russian-German anti-missile systems ...

            Alas, the CIA's misinformation found fertile ground.

            Almost six months before the flight of the Columbia STS-61-C shuttle, the orbiting spacecraft Challenger STS-51-B flew, which 1 of May 1985 passed over the territory of the USSR, but did not make dives into the Earth’s atmosphere. However, it was the Challenger STS-51-B missions in the CPSU Central Committee that attributed the imitation of dropping an atomic bomb to Moscow and on the Day of Solidarity of Workers and the 25 anniversary of the destruction of the U-2 spy aircraft under Sverdlovsk.

            The common arguments of some scientists about the lack of technical and energy capabilities for shuttles to go down to 80 km, to drop an atomic bomb, and then no one in the Soviet leadership wanted to listen again to go into space. At that time, they did not take into account the information of the Air Defense Forces (from the anti-aircraft missile systems, missile and missile defense systems and missile defense systems), which did not confirm the fact of diving over Moscow.

            The myth of the American intelligence about the almost fantastic combat capabilities of shuttles received support from the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU. The work on the creation of the Energia-Buran rocket and space system has accelerated considerably. At the same time, five reusable spacecraft were being built at once, capable of solving, inter alia, PKO tasks. Each of them had to be able to make “dives” to an altitude of up to 80 km and carry up to 15 unmanned orbital rocket planes (BOR - planning unmanned nuclear bombs designed to destroy space, land and sea targets).

            The first of the "Burans" was launched on November 15 1988 of the year. His flight was successful, but ... Instead of one dollar, which Washington actually spent on the SDI program, Moscow began to spend two, which bled the USSR economy. And when there was a breakthrough in this area, at the request of US President R. Reagan, Soviet President M. Gorbachev closed the Energy-Buran program in 1990 in the year.
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 14 November 2012 23: 35
              In order to catch up with the United States in a laser theme, the Soviet Union in the 80-ies intensified research on the creation of anti-missile and anti-space optical quantum generators or lasers. (The word laser is an abbreviation of the English phrase Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission Radiation - light amplification as a result of stimulated radiation).

              Initially, it was intended to place ground-based combat lasers near large power stations, primarily nuclear ones. Such a neighborhood made it possible to provide optical quantum generators with a powerful source of energy and at the same time protect important enterprises from a missile strike.

              However, the experiments showed that the laser beam was strongly scattered by the atmosphere of the Earth. At a distance of 100 km, the laser spot had a diameter of at least 20 m. However, in the course of research, Soviet scientists found one interesting feature of laser radiation - the ability to suppress optical-electronic reconnaissance equipment on space satellites and orbital spacecraft of a potential enemy. Good prospects were also confirmed for the use of combat lasers in space, but subject to the availability of powerful and compact energy sources on board the spacecraft.

              The most famous Soviet scientific-experimental complex "Terra-3", located on the research testing site Sary-Shagan (Kazakhstan). Academician N. Ustinov, who directed the creation of a quantum locator capable of determining the distance to the target, its size, shape, and trajectory of movement, directly supervised the work.

              In order to experiment, it was decided to try to accompany the shuttle Challenger STS-41-G. Regular reconnaissance flights of American spy satellites and “shuttle traders” over Sary-Shagan forced the Soviet “defense industry” to interrupt work. This broke the established test schedule and caused many other inconveniences.

              In terms of weather conditions, a favorable situation arose on October 10 1984. On that day, the Challenger STS-41-G once again flew over the ground. In the detection mode, it was escorted (a similar experiment with the United States intelligence satellite in September, China carried out 2006).

              The results obtained from the Terra-3 project helped to create a radio-optical space object recognition system “Krona” with a radio and laser-optical locator capable of forming an image of the accompanying target.

              In 1985, the development of the first Soviet chemical laser, which was sized to allow it to be installed on board the IL-76, was completed. The Soviet aviation complex received the designation A-60 (flying laboratory 1А1). In fact, it was an analogue of a space laser for the Skif-DM project's combat laser orbital platform. (Under President Yeltsin, the technology for producing a chemical laser was transferred to the United States. Overseas, it was used to develop an ABL air-based laser designed to hit ballistic missiles from a Boeing 747-400F aircraft.)

              It should be noted that the most powerful launch vehicle in the world, Energia, was supposed to be used not only to launch the Buran, but also to put into orbit combat platforms with space-to-space missiles (the Kaskad complex), and in the long run Space-to-earth. One of these platforms, the Polyus (Mir-2) spacecraft, was a 80-ton mock-up of the Skif-DM combat laser orbital station. Its launch with the help of the Energia launch vehicle took place on 15 on May 1987. Due to the failure of the control teams, the mock-up of the station with the research laser on board did not go into orbit, falling in the Pacific Ocean (the launch of the Energia launch vehicle was considered successful).
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 14 November 2012 23: 35
                After the collapse of the Soviet Union, the improvement of the aerospace defense system continues for some time by inertia. The pairing of computing systems is completed, and the software and algorithmic pairing of the parts of the missile defense system, PKO, PRN and KKP is also carried out. This made it possible to form in October 1992 of the year in the structure of the Air Defense Forces a single type of troops - the Space Rocket Defense Forces (CSC). They included the association of PRN, the association of missile defense and the connection of the PAC.

                However, a significant part of the facilities of the RCO Troops, including the Baikonur cosmodrome with launching-start units, was out of the territory of Russia and became the property of other states. The Buran orbital ship flying to space also departed to Kazakhstan (May 12 2002 of the year was crushed by fragments of a collapsed roof of the assembly and test hull). Yuzhnoye Design Office, the manufacturer of the Cyclone carrier rocket and the Lear lira, was on the territory of Ukraine.

                Proceeding from the current situation, President Yeltsin in 1993, by his decree, ceases to carry combat duty on the IS-MU system, and the anti-satellite complex itself is removed from service. 14 on January 1994 is another decree. It envisaged the creation of a system of reconnaissance and control of outer space, the leadership of which was assigned to the commander-in-chief of the Air Defense Forces. But already 16 July 1997, the document is signed, which still raises many questions.

                By decree of the President of the Russian Federation, RKO troops are transferred to the Strategic Missile Forces, and air defense troops are included in the Air Force. Thus, a fatty cross is put on the plans for the restoration of the ASD. It is safe to say that this fateful decision for the security of Russia was made not without the “friendly” prompting of senior officials close to Washington then surrounded by Yeltsin ...
            2. studentmati
              studentmati 14 November 2012 23: 41
              Today (in 20 minutes) is the anniversary of a significant flight! Congratulations!!! We chased, not knowing why! And overtook in spite of that!
            3. vinnie
              vinnie 14 November 2012 23: 58
              Dear "alex 241"! "Shuttle", i.e. the aerospace plane (or orbital stage) really had the ability to "dive" into the upper atmosphere, but this was done not at all in order to drop a NUCLEAR bomb on the Kremlin, but in order to reduce the energy consumption for maneuvering to change the orientation of the orbital plane, i.e. ... the plane was rotated in longitude by about 10-15 degrees ... this is the prose of life ...
              1. Alex 241
                Alex 241 15 November 2012 00: 31
                Thank you, but you need to evaluate any threats, both real and hypothetical.
      2. stolbovsn
        stolbovsn 14 November 2012 18: 34
        You are right when you say "fires started for some reason" and for some reason explosions began at the ammunition depots and often when trains with new cargo arrived there. And it is very easy to set fire to wooden packages, for example, with PCs, and you can always blame the service staff.
        1. Saburov
          Saburov 14 November 2012 20: 41
          You should at least read the energy intensity, solid-state chemical lasers, satellites, UAVs, you can just as well magnify Saturn with a magnifying glass from the ground to create sufficient power, you need a huge amount of energy, A-60 was designed to target and destroy enemy optoelectronic systems, but they didn’t shoot at the shuttle, but simply drove it at 10% of the power from the Sary-Shagan test site, a completely different Terra-3 installation, and do not forget about the density, if here it is a laser, then in outer space it is just a flashlight, no one physics canceled thu To create power even at a distance of 300-400 km, one needs almost an atomic station.
          1. Nick
            Nick 14 November 2012 22: 59
            Quote: Saburov
            do not forget about density, if here it is a laser, then in outer space it is just a flashlight, no one canceled physics to create power even at a distance of 300-400 km, you need almost an atomic station.

            Honestly, I didn’t understand what you mean. If we talk about the use of a laser in space, then it is much more effective, since the atmosphere does not interfere with the passage of a beam over long distances. The same laser beam power in space is transmitted almost without loss. The main thing for the damaging effect on the object is to create a high density of laser energy in a relatively small area, and in a deep vacuum it is easier.
            1. Zynaps
              Zynaps 14 November 2012 23: 20
              because the comrade is right in this case. the beam generator will be in the plane, i.e. atmospheric object. then we look at the distance of the defeat, take the physics textbook, the section "optics" and read about the absorption - scattering spectra. we estimate the required power and understand that the opponent is right.
              1. Nick
                Nick 15 November 2012 08: 48
                Quote: Zynaps
                we take a physics textbook, the section "optics" and read about absorption - scattering spectra. we estimate the required power and understand that the opponent is right.

                I am not a specialist in optics, but I suppose that although the atmosphere, in one way or another, weakens the energy of the beam, significant scattering should not occur, especially if the carrier is above the clouds, since the laser is a monochromatic explorer. And if we take into account the fact that it works in the mode of pulsed radiation, and not continuous, then the energy costs can be significantly reduced.
                1. Saburov
                  Saburov 15 November 2012 18: 18
                  But you took into account atmospheric density, there were two drawbacks of lasers: low power and beam divergence. Whatever the power, but if a beam of radiation with a diameter of several kilometers falls on the target, the benefit of such a laser is zero — unless you can make a rangefinder out of it ... There is only one way to deal with beam divergence — by reducing the wavelength. However, it follows from the fundamental laws of physics that the shorter the wavelength, the more difficult it is to implement quantum amplification of radiation, or, in human terms, to build a laser. The first quantum amplifiers (masers), created in the distant 1950's, worked in the radio range (rather long waves), after a decade, lasers operating in the optical range appeared. And a decade later, a theoretical and experimental basis was formed for creating a laser in the x-ray range. However, to use such a laser as a gun for firing at warheads, fantastic pumping energy was required. Only a nuclear explosion could give it.
  7. selbrat
    selbrat 14 November 2012 13: 28
    Yes, if only they didn’t organize a new feeding trough. And then they cannot provide the army with new small arms and normal uniforms, but they dream about lasers ...
  8. Lucky
    Lucky 14 November 2012 14: 43
    The future for lasers, so it’s necessary to develop technology now, so as not to catch up with everyone else!
    1. vladds
      vladds 28 November 2012 15: 24
      I completely agree! a laser needs to be developed! and in all the troops!
  9. Dimon Lviv
    Dimon Lviv 14 November 2012 16: 22
    Of course, we cannot yet use a laser on airplanes, but as stationary air defense installations of a short range, it's easy. To cover important objects from "tomahawhawks2, free-fall bombs and other nasty things that our American" friends "can throw at us.

    And about the problems with power - connected to the power line and shoot.
    1. urzul
      urzul 14 November 2012 16: 52
      1ЛК222 - an air-based laser system for countering the space echelon of the US national missile defense is based at the airport of Pushkin (St. Petersburg) The project continues. N. A. Stepanov was appointed the chief designer of the “1A product” (from 2002 of the year - Deputy General Director, from 2007 of the year to the present, Deputy General Designer of OJSC “TANTK named after G. M. Beriev”).

      On 28 on August 2009, a comprehensive experiment was carried out in which a reflected signal was recorded when a laser beam was directed from the board of the A-60 flying laboratory to a spacecraft with a flight altitude of 1500 km. In 2010, new information appeared on the continuation of work on the military aviation laser system.
      1. postman
        postman 14 November 2012 18: 03
        Quote: urzul
        airfield of the city of Pushkin

        and 335 plant? Old airfield?

        In the city of fogs and rains, near Pulkovo, on the beam of a / p passenger aircraft?

        You must be confused with the KMI Research Institute of Radar Systems
        there are sun types: An-2, Li-2, IL-14, MI-4, YAK-25, IL-18 (5U), AN-24, AN-26 (2U), AN-8, YAK-40K, Tu-134Sh No. 65098 (1st Tu-134ubs, with radar fairing from Tu-22m2) Tu-134ubs, Tu-134bv / mining puma, kite and guillemot ...
    2. Zynaps
      Zynaps 14 November 2012 23: 25
      Quote: Dimon Lviv
      And about the problems with power - connected to the power line and shoot.

      whom to connect - donkey? it’s interesting, I’ll disappoint you if I say that in modern Russia, longitudinally modulated lasers can still do, but already transversely modulated lasers - horseradish all over the face. and in order to create a laser weapon, one must be able to do this and that. so where are we going to cling, expert?
  10. stray
    stray 14 November 2012 17: 29
    it turns out only next year, the program will only be resumed, and judging by the heading, the laser was already there, then it was lost, and suddenly, what a happiness, it was! it remains to brush off the dust and touch up a bit!
  11. postman
    postman 14 November 2012 18: 16
    UAC Annual Report 2011
    Special aviation
    1) At JSC “TANTK them. G.M.Berieva "in cooperation with the lead contractor of Almaz-Antey OJSC, work was carried out on the A-100 projects (a promising early warning system based on IL-76MD-90A) and A-60 (work on research work "Duelist" are carried out under state contract No. 5933 of September 02.09.2006, 21055, concluded with military unit 1, and involve testing a modernized flying laboratory 2A86879 (No. XNUMX) with the experimental equipment of an aircraft-based laser complex located on it).
    result Case N A40-73876 / 10-133-645
    OJSC "Taganrog Aviation Scientific and Technical Complex named after G.M.Beriev" filed a claim to the arbitration court against OJSC "GKSB" Almaz-Antey ", a third party: the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, to recover 593 rubles 980 kopecks from the defendant . debts under contract N 14 / LL-179 dated 06.
    By a court decision of November 25.11.2010, XNUMX, the claim was denied.

    Guided by Article Art. 266, 267, 268, 269, 271 Arbitration Procedure Code of the Russian Federation, Ninth Arbitration Court of Appeal


    The decision of the Moscow Arbitration Court of November 25, 2010 in the case of N A40-73876 / 10-133-645 to leave unchanged, the appeal of JSC "Taganrog Aviation Scientific and Technical Complex named after GM Beriev" is not satisfied.
    1. stray
      stray 14 November 2012 20: 10
      So what does it mean? does this refer to your documentation? Yes, she doesn’t need a word of kindness to take her seriously.
  12. Captain45
    Captain45 14 November 2012 20: 02
    Yesterday I read an article on this topic on the website "However", the article contained the opinions of experts: Pavel Luzin, Ph.D. in Political Science, PIR Center expert in space policy and international relations
    Anatoly Tsyganok, Head of the Center for Military Forecasting, Corresponding Member of the Academy of Military Sciences, Associate Professor of the Faculty of World Politics at Moscow State University Tell me the unreasonable what a candidate of political sciences and associate professor of the Faculty of World Politics at Moscow State University can understand in such a narrow field as physics, especially in such sections as optics and lasers. If the Nobel Prize laureate Academician Basov or Zh.Alfyorov had spoken, I would have listened to their opinion with respect, otherwise it seems to me a bunch of experts. including some of those present on the site are the same as: Ilya Kramnik Born in Moscow in 1978, lawyer. Not getting to serve in the army, he began to write about it. Columnist for the Voice of Russia RGRK. Previously he worked as a columnist for "Lenta.Ru", RIA Novosti, "Military-Industrial Courier", also one of the experts on the site "However", very professionally examines the problems of the fleet. " Not getting to serve in the army, he began to write about it. "
    1. stray
      stray 14 November 2012 20: 29
      actually, comrade Captain, it seems to me that you need a resource of Sergey Pederastovich Zverev. A disgusting person, but also considered a man.
      1. stray
        stray 14 November 2012 21: 12
        what a filthy bastard. but the site, however, is visited without you, shit.
      2. Captain45
        Captain45 14 November 2012 21: 16
        And where are the beasts? I talked about what experts argue like the ones I quoted above. And you excuse the theoretical physicist in the field of optics?
        1. stray
          stray 14 November 2012 21: 23
          and the beast-smelly bugger.
    2. stray
      stray 14 November 2012 21: 11
      did you serve in the army? stuffed animal - stuffed animal? and I served, moreover, as an ordinary.
      1. Captain45
        Captain45 14 November 2012 21: 14
        Are you asking me this?
        1. stray
          stray 14 November 2012 21: 21
          YOU, slow-witted.
          1. Captain45
            Captain45 14 November 2012 21: 39
            So I did not insult you. This is for starters, and then, the question I posed wasn’t about that. For example, I brought a couple of experts involved in the discussion of such articles, but since you didn’t understand this from your recent mind. I don’t consider it necessary to enter into a discussion with you, Herp Corporal. You still won’t get your loyal lavrov. Although I doubt that you again understood what I told you. Adyu, write letters to your native zapadents. You can dump Obaks for such antics.
  13. studentmati
    studentmati 14 November 2012 20: 21
    The necessary and useful product!
  14. mazdie
    mazdie 14 November 2012 21: 31
    If the program was resumed, then they see a perspective ...
  15. Insurgent
    Insurgent 15 November 2012 20: 45
    An idea without the prospective hyperboloid of a Boeing engineer has proved this. In the future, when other types of laser appear, something will turn out, but it doesn’t
    1. vladds
      vladds 28 November 2012 15: 28
      :) The idea is promising and must be implemented! But Boeing’s engineers could not achieve what ours could achieve and continue to do so!
      Good luck to them!