Western press: The Hague court cannot hold Russia and its president criminally liable

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Western press: The Hague court cannot hold Russia and its president criminally liable

According to information published by the American newspaper The Washington Post (WP), the International Criminal Court (ICC) in The Hague cannot initiate proceedings against Russia and Russian President Vladimir Putin, as well as other high-ranking officials of the country because of the situation in Ukraine.

Here is how the authors of the article commented on what is happening:



Because neither Ukraine nor Russia has ratified the Rome Statute, there is no legal basis for the ICC to prosecute Russia for war crimes. The same applies to Putin himself, as well as his close associates, who hold high positions in the state, who not only cannot be prosecuted in court, but also cannot be tried in absentia.

As noted in the publication, foreign human rights organizations that collect evidence and then send it to the Hague Tribunal do not find support in court. Ukraine, in turn, also does not accept them, for the reason that, in accordance with its legislation, this country does not consider evidence that Ukrainian investigators have not been involved in.

As reported in the material, the Prosecutor General's Office of Ukraine states that 627 Russian officials and senior officials who supported the military operations at the legislative level are already in the status of suspects. Kyiv is holding a special tribunal, similar to what was held in the former Yugoslavia and Rwanda. However, as the publication emphasizes, this must be approved by the UN Security Council, but Russia, in turn, also has the right to veto it, and as for pushing it through the General Assembly, these plans also look very doubtful, since it is far from a fact, that Kyiv will be able to enlist the support of the vast majority of countries in this matter.

While the EU approves of this idea, the US is hesitant so far, supporting only the decision to appoint an interim prosecutor who would collect evidence pointing to the commission of war crimes.

Of the 250 Russians whom Ukraine considers involved in military crimes, only 18 are currently detained, while the authorities intend to try the rest in absentia.

Noteworthy is the fact that there are no cases of investigation of crimes by the Ukrainian military, which is also indicated by WP. Nevertheless, it is important to emphasize that they certainly exist, but the West, in its characteristic manner, simply turns a blind eye to the abuse of Russian servicemen by Ukrainian soldiers, preferring to bypass this issue that is inconvenient for them, continuing to use Ukraine in their geopolitical games.
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  1. +8
    31 January 2023 11: 35
    The Hague court cannot involve Russia

    in order to attract Russia, they should have arrested her first, and with that a hitch ((
    1. +11
      31 January 2023 11: 36
      Their attraction has not yet grown to attract Russia.

      . Because neither Ukraine nor Russia has ratified the Rome Statute, there is no legal basis for the ICC to prosecute Russia for war crimes. The same applies to Putin himself, as well as his close associates, who hold high positions in the state, who not only cannot be prosecuted in court, but also cannot be tried in absentia.


      laughing Peremoga turns, peremoga turns into ... another evil.
      1. +2
        31 January 2023 11: 46
        Quote from Orange Bigg
        Peremoga turns, peremoga turns into ... another evil.

        Rather, a "covid of the brain", where there is no harm or victory, only covid.
        1. 0
          31 January 2023 11: 57
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Rather, a "covid of the brain", where there is no harm or victory, only covid.

          Yes, the crown presses ...
    2. +1
      31 January 2023 11: 48
      Quote from ivan1979nkl
      to attract Russia, they should have arrested her first

      Better, then join The Hague.
      1. +3
        31 January 2023 11: 56
        on no ---- and there is no trial

        However, yapping and howling will still continue with the same Russophobes.
        1. +2
          31 January 2023 12: 23
          Quote: Reptiloid
          However, yapping and howling will still continue with the same Russophobes.
          That's right, Dmitry!
          In the West, the MILITARY CRIMINALS themselves and their anti-Russian and Russophobic "demshiza" paid for by them rely on the fact that any dirty "water wears away a stone"!
          In the West, everything is according to Goebbels.

          Goebbels about PROPAGANDA and CONTROL of the masses.

          1. Give me the media and I will make a herd of pigs out of any nation.

          2. A lie repeated a thousand times becomes the truth.

          3. If you tell a big enough lie and repeat it, people will eventually believe it.

          4. The worst enemy of any propaganda is intellectualism.

          5. The more monstrous the lie, the more willingly the crowd will believe in it.

          6. We seek not TRUTH, but EFFECT.

          7. Etc.
          1. +1
            31 January 2023 13: 58
            Quote: Tatiana
            .... Goebbels on PROPAGANDA and CONTROL of the masses ......

            Thank you very much for your comment, Tatiana love ! At the end of 1942, Vasily Ivanovich Lebedev-Kumach published the following poem:
            BREHOMET
            Killer Hitler, at least cry,
            Do not hide military failures
            Near Rzhev and near Stalingrad
            And so, to deceive the people,
            He invented his "brehomet"
            Which pours hail of lies.
            The machine is breaking at full speed,
            But she cannot drown out the Truth, ---
            Don's Truth rumbles
            She is heard over the Volga,
            She rumbles in Africa ---
            And "brekhomet" does not help.
        2. +3
          31 January 2023 13: 31
          In addition, Russophobes, illiterate in international legal terms ...

          For MANDATORY for execution by ALL members of the UN (including for all kinds of "tribunals" ...) are only the Resolutions of the UN Security Council, and not some "decisions of the General Assembly". The nature of which is only advisory, that is, nothing more than "wishes" ...
          1. 0
            1 February 2023 23: 58
            Quote: ABC-schütze
            MANDATORY for execution by ALL members of the UN (including for all kinds of "tribunals" ...) only Resolutions of the UN Security Council
            As practice shows, this is not so. The resolution in support of Ukraine's implementation of the "Minsk agreements-2" has not been implemented. A lot of resolutions are not implemented by the US itself. Google...
  2. +12
    31 January 2023 11: 39
    Of the 250 Russians whom Ukraine considers involved in military crimes, only 18 are currently detained

    I wonder who is it?

    ps cheap statements of European liars for stupid people - there is no international law, there is only the right of the strong and the United States confirms this every year ... if they need to create a "universal supreme court" tribunal, they will plant their puppets there and will make the decisions they need .. (Wada, WHO, IMF will not let you lie)
    1. +2
      31 January 2023 11: 53
      I support if they need to observe the form of legality, they will create any court, tribunal, etc. If there is no such norm now, they will accept it. The only way to prevent is to be a strong state.
    2. +3
      31 January 2023 11: 54
      maybe it's time to take hostages??? I see there they don’t stand on ceremony with ours ...
      1. +2
        31 January 2023 12: 51
        Quote: d ^ Amir
        I look there with ours they don’t stand on ceremony.

        The Nazis of the Armed Forces of Ukraine no longer stand on ceremony with FOREIGN MERCENIES foreign mercenaries и began to kill their "generals" from the United States and Poland. Namely.

        Ukronazis brutally kill their own "generals" - mercenaries who came from Poland, the USA, Great Britain and command Ukrainian militants.
        The Russian military has already discovered the HEADED bodies of foreign mercenaries in Artyomovsk.

        When foreign mercenaries began to command Bandera and began to rob them, then in the event that one of the mercenaries was wounded in battle, the Bandera people took revenge on them in this way. Right in front of their fellow tribesmen - Polish, American, English - thieves were cut off their hands, and the most heinous were cut off their heads, Baranets said.

        This is revenge for the mercenaries turning to the Ukronazis. Polish mercenaries are especially prominent, who consider themselves "kings" and treat Bandera like slaves, mocking them

        See in detail - the Nazis of the Armed Forces of Ukraine began to kill their "generals" from the USA and Poland. 30.01.2023/9/1 - https://dzen.ru/a/Y8eRdlKtOxAXNUMXLCXNUMXu

        Surely the anti-Russian West and these crimes of the ukronazis will attribute the Russian Armed Forces!
        1. +1
          31 January 2023 14: 18
          Quote: Tatiana
          .....Ukronazis brutally kill their own "generals" - mercenaries who came from Poland, the USA, Great Britain and command Ukrainian militants.
          The Russian military has already discovered the HEADED bodies of foreign mercenaries in Artyomovsk......

          But what about??? gay Europeans and staffers should understand and forgive this. After all, the salary of these "come in large numbers" is much higher than that of Bandera.
          Hence, lol their risk of being killed must be greater than that of dill!
          salary of Americans from PMC Academi ~~~10000 $$$$ from the USA.
          The French Foreign Legion pays 1500€€ to mercenaries from France. Kyiv pays those who come in large numbers on their own from 1500 to 3000€€ and various other bonuses! True, there are reports that they are reduced to everyone .....
          Still higher than the Ukronazis. How can you not be envious of Bandera
          1. +1
            31 January 2023 16: 52
            Quote: Reptiloid
            the salary of these "come in large numbers" is much more than that of Bandera.

            The point is even so much in salaries, but in the arrogant - "chosen" - excellent - attitude of foreigners "come in large numbers" to Ukraine towards the Ukronazis.

            There, on the part of foreign mercenaries, the arrogant theft of food, weapons, ammunition from the Ukronazis flourishes, forcing them to get out of their place, carry water for them, etc. and even to the point of sexual rape by African Americans of white Ukronazis.
            After all, foreigners came to Ukraine not so much to fight for Kyiv, but rather to earn money by killing "Rusnya" like on a safari.
            1. 0
              2 February 2023 11: 35
              Quote: Tatiana
              coercion to clean up with them, carry water for them, etc. and even to the point of sexual rape by African Americans of white Ukronazis.

              Do you believe that?
              That you can rape a man with a machine gun in a war - without of the consequences?
              Yes, and at the current one, "yes, is this a Russian rocket or a drone that flew in at the location of the mercenaries !!"?
  3. +3
    31 January 2023 11: 43
    So much attention to a situation that does not exist and cannot exist.
    However, this is written for * their own *, European cohabitants, not burdened with knowledge and memory.
    Moreover - * this is different * and has already passed, well, and if it still * stretches * so again - * this is different *.

    Or maybe it's time to start legal proceedings against the war crimes of the French-British-Ukrainian-Americans and other shushvali? Maybe it's time to involve international criminal communities hiding in Europe and America in the criminal investigation?
    We have a lot of law enforcement officers. There will be work for everyone and not for one year. So other victims of Europe will be able to join and also help with the catching of criminals. Moreover, the expense to the colonialists is huge.
  4. 0
    31 January 2023 11: 49
    The International Criminal Court (ICC) in The Hague cannot initiate proceedings against Russia and Russian President Vladimir Putin
    And what a preliminary campaign was carried out and has not yet been completed, what mass media monsters were connected to this, how officials of the EU, EC, PACE, presidents and prime ministers of individual countries were outraged and rejoiced. There is no doubt that this frankly fascist campaign against our country will continue. But the result of it should be the complete plucking of all Russophobes, so that fluff and feathers fly in all directions and for at least another 70 years there is no desire to go to Rus'.
  5. 0
    31 January 2023 11: 49
    The Hague Court cannot bring
    Either they will come up with another one, or they will make an exception, they are unlikely to give up this idea so easily.
    1. 0
      31 January 2023 16: 32
      However, as the publication emphasizes, this must be approved by the UN Security Council, but Russia, in turn, also has the right to veto it, and as for pushing it through the General Assembly, these plans also look very doubtful, since it is far from a fact, that Kyiv will be able to enlist the support of the vast majority of countries in this matter.

      According to international laws, it is not possible to involve Russia purely legally.
      In the Security Council, Russia has the right of veto, and the resolution of the UN General Assembly is advisory in nature.
      But there are still national laws and courts. Almost all countries have a war crimes section in their criminal codes. They certainly exist in the American Criminal Code and in the Ukrainian. The Ukrainian court can find anyone guilty in absentia of anything and put them on the international wanted list through Interpol.
      But to detain at least someone on the basis of these sentences is almost impossible. Since I strongly doubt that Strelkov, Gerasimov, Shoigu or Prigogine or any other of the condemned will visit countries in which they can be arrested.
      1. 0
        2 February 2023 11: 38
        Quote: Beetle1991
        Since I strongly doubt that Strelkov, Gerasimov, Shoigu or Prigogine or any other of the condemned will visit countries in which they can be arrested.

        They are under sanctions - therefore, they are obviously not allowed to travel to countries that supported the sanctions
  6. 0
    31 January 2023 11: 51
    If such a court starts consideration, then after the first meeting it will cease to be the Hague, in the absence of such a settlement. The people there are not fraternal, we will regret it, but later.
  7. +2
    31 January 2023 11: 55
    ICC has no legal grounds to prosecute Russia for war crimes

    The gut is thin in rear-wheel drive transvestites.
  8. +2
    31 January 2023 12: 12
    A good Hague Tribunal allows you to cut off the heads of Russian soldiers, but forbids bombing energy facilities. Well, just a wonderland and fabulous laws!
  9. +3
    31 January 2023 12: 16
    It can’t, for one reason alone - the winners are not judged! The Hague assembly is capable of judging only the vanquished, judging selectively, judging with specific goals and a deliberate verdict. In order not to get there, there is only one possibility - not to lose the battle. smile
  10. 0
    31 January 2023 12: 23
    Of course, I could be wrong, but Yugoslavia also did not ratify the Rome Statute, and Milosevic was tried ...., or is it something else, where is Yugoslavia and where is Russia? It's scary, though, they only live once. And do they need it?
    1. +1
      31 January 2023 16: 37
      For the former Yugoslavia, a special "military tribunal for the former Yugoslavia" was created. Formally, this is not that international military tribunal. It's like a different organization, but also in The Hague. This tribunal was created by the UN Security Council. That is, with the "consent" of Russia. Russia did not veto.
  11. +1
    31 January 2023 12: 32
    Haagsky soud musí odsoudit fašismus západu a Banderovský režim na Ukrajině!
  12. -6
    31 January 2023 12: 34
    And yet, there is a risk of judgment. If the West succeeds in pushing through the idea that Putin should leave in order to normalize relations and lift (at least part of) the sanctions. The problem is that Putin is not eternal and his successor, under pressure from Abramovich & Co, may be tempted by such a carrot.
    1. 0
      31 January 2023 13: 10
      GDP will leave in 2024 ............... for the next one ......, go to the cashier, flawed, the silversmith has worked.
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  14. -1
    31 January 2023 12: 35
    Kyiv holds a special tribunal

    - You're under arrest!
    - Do you have a pistol?
    “Then they were arrested…

  15. 0
    31 January 2023 13: 27
    Russia has not ratified the Rome Statute
    ..this joke made me laugh .... interestingly, did Milosevic sign this very Rymian statute ???? ... thank God ... transgenders finally got loose stools
  16. -4
    31 January 2023 13: 41
    Because neither Ukraine nor Russia has ratified the Rome Statute, there is no legal basis for the ICC to prosecute Russia for war crimes.

    I don’t know where this quote came from, but it is far from reality.
    Countries that have not ratified the Rome Statute may voluntarily apply for an investigation into the events that took place on its territory within a certain time frame. Ukraine, as far as is known, has made such a statement.
    And if the court considers the borders of 1991 to be the territory of Ukraine (and it certainly will), then the case can be considered by the ICC.
    There is a second option - if the ICC is approached by an authorized body of the UN, as a rule, this is the UN Security Council.
    But, as you know, thanks to the failure of the work of the Foreign Ministry, the decision-making on Ukraine from the UN Security Council (in which Russia has a veto right) passed to the UN General Assembly, where no one has a veto right. Therefore, the situation is highly ambiguous.
    1. +1
      2 February 2023 11: 42
      Quote from solar
      the UN General Assembly, where no one has the right to veto. Therefore, the situation is highly ambiguous.

      The decision of the General Assembly is not binding - unlike the decision of the UN Security Council
    2. -1
      2 February 2023 12: 43
      The adoption of a decision to move from the Security Council to the General Assembly cannot, in principle, pass. It is not provided for by the UN Charter. The General Assembly has already made a bunch of decisions on the Ukrainian issue, and where are they? I'll give you a hint - they are in the archives of this very General Assembly. The benefit of these votes is an indicator of how firmly the United States holds Faberge here or in another country. The country will vote for the anti-Russian resolution or abstain. But Ukrainians stubbornly present abstinence as "the whole world is with us."
  17. -1
    31 January 2023 16: 15
    Who is strong is right. We are still holding on to the achievements of the USSR (except for galoshes).
  18. -1
    31 January 2023 16: 47
    Conventions, statutes and other bullshit.
    They could condemn, they condemned.
    But for this, Russia needs to be defeated, and the president and top officials arrested.
    How they arrested Milosevic. Their arms are short.
  19. +1
    31 January 2023 20: 23
    In fact, the point is not in jurisdiction or lack of jurisdiction, but in the capabilities of the relevant organization.
    For some reason, I think that if the Russian law enforcement agencies give themselves permission to arrest the judges of the Hague court, then the execution of it can be entrusted, for example, to comrade. Kadyrov.
    And there ... they will deliver it alive or not, well, how lucky.
    Look, in Qatar they exploded by accident. It happens. Or recently in Germany a person died. Ah, no luck.
    1. -2
      31 January 2023 21: 40
      There are 18 judges, they are all from different countries of the world. For example
      The International Criminal Court consists of 18 judges elected for 9 years by the Assembly of States Parties to the court, with each of the regional groups must be represented by at least 2 judges. Currently (April 2017) 3 judges represent Eastern Europe, 3 from Asia, 4 from Africa, 3 from Latin America, and the remaining 5 from Western Europe and other countries.

      Are you planning to quarrel with Russia with the whole world?
  20. 0
    1 February 2023 22: 58
    The Hague court cannot hold Russia and its president criminally liable


    Ordinarily, right? lol laughing wassat
  21. -1
    1 February 2023 23: 55
    Is this self-confidence? On a military front?
  22. 0
    2 February 2023 09: 03
    Of the 250 Russians whom Ukraine considers involved in military crimes, only 18 are currently detained...

    And what are these 18 detainees?
  23. 0
    3 February 2023 18: 47
    In this whole story, only the collected evidence is of interest, and it must be very convincing, since the whole state and its head want to blame those international organizations that collected them. It is unlikely that these are OSCE observers who actually visited those parts of the LDNR from the moment of their self-formation.

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