The Netherlands promises to consider the supply of F-16 fighters to Ukraine if requested

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The Netherlands promises to consider the supply of F-16 fighters to Ukraine if requested

The Netherlands is still ready to consider Ukraine's request for the supply of fighter jets and is awaiting an application from Kyiv. This was stated by Prime Minister Mark Rutte.

The Dutch prime minister held a meeting with French President Emmanuel Macron, at which, among other things, military support for Ukraine was discussed. At a joint press conference, Rutte and Macron spoke in favor of a possible transfer of aircraft to Kyiv. The Dutchman promised to supply fighters, but only after consultation with the allies, and the Frenchman promised to train Ukrainian pilots to fly planes, but only French ones.



As for the F-16 fighters, we have not received such a request. But if it happens, it will be an important milestone. We will review it and consult with our allies.

Rutte said.

At the same time, France does not rule out that Ukraine may receive French fighters, so they will consider the issue of training pilots of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to operate French aircraft. French Defense Minister Sebastien Lecornu intends to discuss this issue with his Ukrainian counterpart Alexei Reznikov.

Meanwhile, in Kyiv itself, they do not comment on the US refusal to supply F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine. Neither Zelensky nor his entourage touch upon this topic at all, as if nothing had happened. The Ukrainian press mentions this very briefly, as an insignificant fact. Recall that in Kyiv they dreamed of getting at least 180 fighters in the near future and even recruited for training the first group of 50 pilots who speak English and have the experience of "thousands of victories."
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    1. -1
      31 January 2023 07: 28
      Everything is thrown off to them. And they promise more.
      I can’t understand, but what will the Ukrainians do with these fighters?
      Is it possible to call children Falcons ...
      1. 0
        31 January 2023 08: 03
        Quote: Fedor Rashkin
        Everything is thrown off to them. And they promise more.
        I can’t understand, but what will the Ukrainians do with these fighters?
        Is it possible to call children Falcons ...

        Zelensky wants to supply aircraft along with pilots. Do you really think that the Hymers are controlled by banderlogs?
      2. -1
        31 January 2023 08: 20
        Quote: Fedor Rashkin
        Is it possible to call children Falcons ...

        From next news
        The first batch of Bradley infantry fighting vehicles was sent from the USA to Ukraine
        Have they already recorded the name Bradley in the Bandera calendar next to Bayraktar and Javelina?

        In thirty or forty years, Falkon Bredlievich Bayraktarov will poop on the grave of his mother Javelina Mykolaevna Ponasyuk somewhere near Kyiv ...
        In gratitude for the passport data.
        1. +1
          31 January 2023 08: 32
          In thirty or forty years, Falkon Bredlievich Bayraktarov will poop on the grave of his mother Javelina Mykolaevna Ponasyuk somewhere near Kyiv ...

          Well, in general, according to the results of the past year, the names Sarmat, Iskander, and not just Javelina are also popular with them. Although I even liked it: Manticore and Nemesis are popular among girls.
          1. -1
            31 January 2023 23: 42
            Quote: NikolayDS
            Well, in general, according to the results of the past year, the names Sarmat, Iskander, and not just Javelina are also popular with them. Although I even liked it: Manticore and Nemesis are popular among girls.

            I offer Ukraine two new names in the Bandera calendar - for boys, for girls - Karma.
    2. +2
      31 January 2023 07: 29
      As long as Russia is afraid to harm the West, the West will boldly provide any weapon to kill Russians.
      1. +5
        31 January 2023 07: 33
        Quote from: wanna
        As long as Russia is afraid to harm the West, the West will boldly provide any weapon to kill Russians.

        You mean afraid? And then what do you propose?
        1. -2
          31 January 2023 07: 38
          At the very least, you must take decisive action, and not "peck the rice."
          1. +2
            31 January 2023 07: 47
            Fuck in Poland, for example, in Rzeszow? Attack on a NATO country. And in response, they will give a response to our isolated group of MS in Transnistria - have you thought about this?
            1. -1
              31 January 2023 07: 55
              Can the current situation be described as follows: Russia is now helpless in the face of the reckless behavior of the West.
            2. +2
              31 January 2023 09: 02
              There can be no question of a missile attack on Rzeszow, firstly, the Patriot battery is stationed there, and secondly, several thousand Americans are stationed there. The consequences of the attack and the destruction of several thousand soldiers could be catastrophic and become a pretext for declaring war by both NATO and America. Bridges and transit points on the Ukrainian side should be destroyed at any cost.
            3. +1
              31 January 2023 09: 49
              Quote from Bingo
              Fuck in Poland, for example, in Rzeszow? Attack on a NATO country. And in response, they will give a response to our isolated group of MS in Transnistria - have you thought about this?

              Or in Kaliningrad. Today, when the main part of the Russian Armed Forces is fighting in Ukraine, you only lack this.
            4. 0
              31 January 2023 15: 57
              I think it is necessary to allow the supply of weapons by sea and build land communications to speed up the delivery of weapons.
        2. +2
          31 January 2023 08: 07
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          Quote from: wanna
          As long as Russia is afraid to harm the West, the West will boldly provide any weapon to kill Russians.

          You mean afraid? And then what do you propose?

          To begin with, blow up underwater gas pipelines to Europe, then hit LNG terminals with drones, as in Isfahan. Deliver captured Stringers to Islamic terrorist groups in Europe. Etc. etc. There are many opportunities to please Eurofascists and send them to meet with Bandera. am
          1. +1
            31 January 2023 08: 23
            Quote: Bearded
            To begin with, blow up underwater gas pipelines to Europe

            Do American banks communicate with Europe and Asia via satellite or ocean cable?

            I'm so interested ... From a purely sporting interest ... feel
            1. +1
              31 January 2023 10: 40
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              Do American banks communicate with Europe and Asia via satellite or ocean cable?

              According to SWIFT - a separate secure international corporate banking network operating on the same principle as the Internet through terminals.

              With a few exceptions, Russian banks have not been turned off SWIFT, although they have been threatened. Even talk about it has faded away
              1. 0
                31 January 2023 23: 39
                Quote: Rosemary
                Quote: Zoldat_A
                Do American banks communicate with Europe and Asia via satellite or ocean cable?

                According to SWIFT - a separate secure international corporate banking network operating on the same principle as the Internet through terminals.

                Yes, I know that "walkie-talkie on an armored train."
                Physically, where is this "secure network" - in a cable across the ocean or "one-zero" via satellite? And what will happen if suddenly some sperm whale gnaws through the cable or the necessary satellite suddenly goes berserk and decides to fly to Jupiter?
                That's what I'm talking about.
          2. +1
            31 January 2023 09: 52
            Quote: Bearded

            To begin with, blow up underwater gas pipelines to Europe, then hit LNG terminals with drones, as in Isfahan. Deliver captured Stringers to Islamic terrorist groups in Europe. Etc. etc. There are many opportunities to please Eurofascists and send them to meet with Bandera. am

            And then your oil tankers and LNG facilities in the North will go to the bottom. And then you and the Americans will hit each other with nuclear weapons. You did not ask your children, but they want to burn in a nuclear fire for the sake of your aplomb.
            1. -1
              2 February 2023 07: 29
              And our children will burn in the fire of wars and poverty, and millions of our children will not be born at all, and this is all in case of defeat. The war is going on at our borders and with us for destruction - the Russian question is finally decided. So it’s high time to test nuclear weapons on Novaya Zemlya, to warn, and if it doesn’t help, then the West has definitely decided to fight and so, we don’t lose anything, then warn the Poles, in your words, they will tell them about the children, burn the same Rzeszow and then look again , how many Western countries (or Israel for example) will throw their children into the fire of the war for Ukrainian ...
              Kennedy did not roll cotton wool in such a situation, why should we be afraid for our children, if the war has already come to us and they want to destroy us? Maybe it's time for Americans to think about their children, since they are killing ours? They are not afraid, because they have not been scared yet, but it is high time. We will die for our home and our country, but why are Germans, Poles, US blacks, Jews motivated to die?
          3. -1
            31 January 2023 18: 04
            I only support the unconscious who did it like the West
    3. +3
      31 January 2023 07: 32
      They will put it, no need to harbor illusions.
      They will give whatever Zeleny asks.
      It is necessary to prepare for full-scale military operations.
      When will the economy be mobilized?
      Yes, "dragon teeth" anti-tank for the quality of concrete must be checked, not good rumors reach.
    4. +5
      31 January 2023 07: 32
      Tanks worked out in the media for about a month. At first, German and American publications wrote that the authorities flatly refused to supply tanks. Then they wrote about what might happen if they suddenly put tanks. Then the politicians got involved. Some begged and threatened, others broke down and did not give. Broke and gave.
      Now we see the development of the media agenda on aircraft. The nuances are slightly different, but the essence is the same. There is no doubt: they will break as expected and give. So get ready right now.
    5. -5
      31 January 2023 07: 48
      Yesterday one expert expressed one interesting idea. For 8 years, Russia has been supplying weapons, tanks, artillery, and ammunition to the Donbass. The West was against it. Then we said that Russia is not a party to the conflict. Now the West is supplying weapons to the outskirts, while saying that it is also not a party to the conflict. What changed? Double standarts? For the west, the LDNR corps are separatists, terrorists, etc. For us, the Zeli regime is fascist. Today, the West is doing exactly as much as we have been doing for 8 years, since 2014. We need to accept this and continue to live with it and win. It won't be otherwise. The West will not forgive us the military supply of Donbass for 8 years.
      1. -2
        31 January 2023 08: 05
        Something tells me that that military expert did not understand the essence of what was happening. The idea is so primitive that one has to doubt this expert. And what is his name?
      2. -3
        31 January 2023 08: 15
        Quote from uprun
        Yesterday one expert expressed one interesting idea. For 8 years, Russia has been supplying weapons, tanks, artillery, and ammunition to the Donbass. The West was against it. Then we said that Russia is not a party to the conflict. Now the West is supplying weapons to the outskirts, while saying that it is also not a party to the conflict. What changed? Double standarts? For the west, the LDNR corps are separatists, terrorists, etc. For us, the Zeli regime is fascist. Today, the West is doing exactly as much as we have been doing for 8 years, since 2014. We need to accept this and continue to live with it and win. It won't be otherwise. The West will not forgive us the military supply of Donbass for 8 years.

        Have you yourself seen Russian arms supplies to Donbass or read about it in the Western "free-independent" tolerant press? Do they never lie in the West? Yesterday Stoltenberg said in South Korea that the DPRK is supplying missiles to Wagner. Take him at his word? So South Korea, in its official information sources, reports on its supply of weapons to Ukraine. The West is the Empire of Lies. Only mentally retarded people believe in the West.
        1. -1
          31 January 2023 08: 23
          Answer one question, where did the weapons (tanks, artillery, rocket launchers, etc.) and ammo for 8 years of warfare come from in the Donbass? There is no military-industrial complex in the literal sense.
      3. 0
        3 February 2023 07: 05
        What has changed is that now Russia has become a participant in the conflict and the West has openly entered into confrontation and is killing our soldiers.
        The West staged a coup in Ukraine and set the Russian "Ukrainians" against the Russians, came to our borders and something else will be "forgive"? Are we revolutionizing Mexico, killing American soldiers and shelling Texas and Arizona?
    6. +1
      31 January 2023 08: 12
      The Netherlands promises to consider the supply of F-16 fighters to Ukraine upon request
      There is no doubt about the receipt of the request and not one. Well, something, but Ukraine knows how to ask and knows how well. But where the Dutch are in such a hurry to show their "love" for Ukraine and the invaluable assistance they provide is not entirely clear. Vernet understands that they strive to be in the first line of defenders of "democracy" and opposition to Russia, and then what? In this case, Holland is reminiscent of the Baltic States, which is ready to give up everything, even what it does not have and does not have, if only it was to the detriment of Russia.
    7. -3
      31 January 2023 08: 13
      And why the country of tulips, prostitutes and drug addicts "doesn't sit right on the priest"? Do you want thrills? Sooner or later they will.
      1. -3
        31 January 2023 08: 20
        So flood them! Blow up at least one dam, and the Dutch Falcons will become submarines
    8. 0
      31 January 2023 08: 34
      Well done grasshoppers. Banderlogs will shoot down another of their planes in gratitude.
    9. 0
      31 January 2023 08: 40
      Everything in this world is interconnected. Our retailers love to register in the Netherlands, but should we reconsider the tax policy for these companies?
    10. 0
      31 January 2023 09: 18
      Check, they are waiting for Uncle Sam's go-ahead and then Western countries will be blown up to transfer planes.
    11. -2
      31 January 2023 09: 26
      The Netherlands promises to consider the supply of F-16 fighters to Ukraine upon request
      Shaw? Ze has not yet pasted over all the toilets of NATO with a request for everything and a lot? fool
    12. 0
      31 January 2023 09: 43
      The Netherlands promises to consider the supply of F-16 fighters to Ukraine if requested
      . It is clear that such round dances will be led in front of the big brother now !!! And then, he will throw them and leave doing his aukus ...
      And it will be full for the gay people!
    13. -1
      31 January 2023 11: 26
      Of course, there was no application from Kyiv for planes! To make such an application - you need money. And they don't exist yet. Yes, and the United States is unlikely to want to give money to Ukraine, so that she would give them to some kind of France or the Netherlands.
    14. +1
      31 January 2023 13: 02
      And who will supply aircraft against the most powerful and effective air defense in the world? This will be a disgrace to them and training for the Russian Air Defense and Aerospace Forces. These aircraft should be able to handle S300, S400, Buk, Tor, Pantsir plus SU 30, SU 35 and sometimes SU 57?
      In addition, how long does it take for a pilot to learn a new type of aircraft?
      Maybe the pilots are already on training?
      If they fly (NATO), then this is another dimension of war.
      Ukrainian pilots fly like partisans and managed to do something, but it was very expensive. The effectiveness of such an application is very low, but the risk is high.
      1. +3
        31 January 2023 13: 47
        Are you serious?!
        3 attacks on Engels last month + attack on Ryazan!
        6 people died + 3 missile carriers were damaged.
        Dozens of such attacks on Crimea and border regions.
        Hundreds of objects struck by Himars and MLRS.

        And then all hurrah, hurrah, hurrah...

        Specifically on the topic. In the conditions of Ukraine, these F-16s will only be a platform for launching long-range missiles and JSOW-type glide bombs.
        They will probably use the Harpoon anti-ship missiles, which have been there for a long time. Here is their purpose.
        The effectiveness of such weapons is very high - a cut above what they have on the Su-24 / Su-25.

        Ukrainian pilots have been training in the US for a year now. And maybe more if the preparation was started secretly and long ago.
        The result is for sure. For no one would give such a technique to the blind.
        As a last resort, they will find retirees from NATO countries.
    15. 0
      31 January 2023 18: 28
      Ukrainian pilots will sit at the Dutch helm.

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