The Western press announced that Russian soldiers are "afraid of Leopard 2 tanks"

After official announcements about the start of deliveries to Ukraine of Western tanks in the Russian media, schemes with MBT Leopard 2 were published, which show the vulnerabilities of the German machine. Based on this, the Western media conclude that the Leopard 2 is perceived by Russian experts and fighters as a serious threat.

Russian soldiers fear Leopard 2

- noted in the edition of World Defense News.

Against the background of such a perception, the usual army truth is completely lost sight of, according to which any weapon, which is in the hands of the enemy, should cause concern. In addition, Russian media, including VO, have previously posted similar schemes with preferred areas of destruction for various equipment. On the net, without much difficulty, you can find images, for example, of the same American Stryker armored personnel carrier with a visual demonstration of its weakest points. The essence of these publications is very clear - to acquaint the fighters with models unknown to them.

Nevertheless, in the Western media, the thesis about the "fear" of the soldiers of the RF Armed Forces in front of German tanks is dispersed:

The Leopard 2 has not faced Soviet-designed tanks in direct combat, but is considered a professional "killer" by the Russian military.

- the press says without specifying who exactly in the Russian troops thinks so.

In this publication, the advantages of this vehicle over Russian MBTs are voiced: the presence of composite armor made of ceramic materials and steel; equipping with advanced optics and a fire control system that allows you to hit moving targets at any time of the day; use of modern ammunition.

As noted, the Leopard 2 uses two types of 120-mm projectiles - high-explosive fragmentation HEAT-MP-T and armor-piercing APFSDS-T, which is capable of penetrating about 450 mm of rolled homogeneous armor.

According to German army experts, 120-mm Leopard 2 ammunition can penetrate the frontal armor of the Russian T-72 tank at a distance of 2000 m or T-62 at a distance of more than 4000 m

- indicated in the publication.

At the same time, the absence of an automatic loader on a German tank is practically ignored:

The crew of the Leopard 2 is able to have a rate of fire similar to a tank equipped with an AZ

- the publication says with reference to some German experts without any real details and tests.

Comments

[-ш-]

if their tank wins, they will praise themselves, if they lose, the Ukrainian crew will be to blame for everything

[dmi.pris1]

Well, people and the crew are fighting in the same way.

[Orange Bigg]

Quote from: dmi.pris1

Well, people and the crew are fighting in the same way.

The crew understands this. But Armata with the Vacuum-1 and Vacuum-2 BOPS would have pierced these Leopards in the forehead, but whether the Leopard T-90M armor with its Lead-1 and Lead-2 BOPS would pierce the forehead is a question.

At the moment, the best Russian BOPS are 3BM59 "Lead-1" and 3BM60 "Lead-2", made of tungsten and depleted uranium, respectively. Their penetrating power is estimated at 650-750 mm of homogeneous rolled armor at an inclination of 60 degrees at an average distance of two kilometers. rolled armor. From which follows the conclusion about the loss of Russian shells to Western armor. Although they can still penetrate it at shorter distances, as well as when they hit the side or stern projections, which are the weak point of any MBT. However, such a position for shooting still needs to be taken and it is not a fact that the enemy will allow this to be done freely.

It was proposed to modernize weapons by installing a new 125 mm 2A82 gun and using the Vacuum BOPS 900-1000 mm long. The muzzle energy of this gun is about 1,2 times higher than that of the famous German gun Rh120L55. These plans only became reality 10 years later. When the 2A82 gun and BOPS 3BM69 "Vacuum-1" and 3BM70 "Vacuum-2" (made of tungsten and depleted uranium) were created, the length of which is 900 mm. According to the available information, the speed of these BOPS is 2000 m / s. and at a distance of 2 km, Vacuum-type projectiles, having an energy of 15 megajoules, are capable of penetrating armor with a thickness of 900 to 1000 mm. Which deprives Western MBTs of their existing security advantage.

https://www.belrynok.by/2019/04/22/bronebojnye-snaryady-kak-probit-neprobivaemoe/

[Fisherman]

the tank is dangerous even for its own .... and even for the enemy ... it’s still not a harmonica and a tank that the Leopard, that the T-34 fighters fear in any way. But there are "extenuating circumstances": Okhlobystin's businessmen promise 10 lyam each for the same Abrams, the Yekaterinburg company - 5 lyam each, the governor of Transbaikalia to his fighters - 3 lyam each .... if I were Leopard himself, I would be afraid of our fighters if rewards will be announced for him as for Abrams!

[AlexEkb]

You even need to be afraid of the ukroekipazh) for such a reward they will hand over a piece of iron

[yuriy1863]

That's right, people fight on technology and skill and courage win. I read the memoirs of our tankers on the Kursk Bulge, how the Tigers were beaten on the T-34-76. Due to speed and maneuver, they entered from the stern or on board at a confident shot distance - 300-400 meters. At the same time, the "Tiger" confidently hit the T-34 in any projection. starting from 2000 m. Or I also read about the battle between the T-70 and the Panther. There, in general, the German tank became a trophy, as the lieutenant (T-70 commander) approached the German closely, jumped onto an enemy tank and destroyed the crew with a grenade through an unsecured commander's hatch.

[BARKAS]

If the leopard loses, they will blame the evil Russians who did not understand the power of the German tank.

[Orange Bigg]

Quote: BARKAS

If the leopard loses, they will blame the evil Russians who did not understand the power of the German tank.

Everyone has weaknesses. The link below is a lot about the design features of the Leopard. There the picture is more detailed. It clearly shows what and where to hit.

But not the frontal part (80% of the tank) is a very good target for any modern and not even modern ATGM (which models are shown in the pictures) or a cumulative projectile with armor penetration of 500 mm and above. Pay attention to the 2nd picture from the bottom, which shows a half-arc (unfinished circle) - this entire arc is the tank's weak spots. In this regard, during an enemy tank attack - ground units should be divided into at least 2 parts (2 flanks) - do not miss a lot of tanks ahead (and it’s not even necessary to even level with them, because the angle of fire allows you to already penetrate armor) and already hit with ATGMs. And of course, artillery - all these schemes do not particularly affect it - with an exact hit on any part of the tank - this is an almost guaranteed incapacitation of the tank.

https://dzen.ru/a/Y9DEuumsOTVFnZBq

Some units of the tank and the most armored places of the tank:

[Labrador]

Western media disperses the thesis about the "fear" of the soldiers of the RF Armed Forces in front of German tanks

As in that joke: ... of course I'm afraid - the first time such a terrible ... I will.

[Sevastiec]

The essence of these publications is very clear - to acquaint the fighters with models unknown to them.

Rather, not fighters, but readers of publications. It is not clear why.

[poquello]

Quote: -sh-

if their tank wins, they will praise themselves, if they lose, the Ukrainian crew will be to blame for everything

no tank wins, army wins

[Alexander 3]

At one time, our grandfathers burned German tanks with bottles of flammable liquid. I think modern German tanks can also be burned in various ways - with kerosene bottles, RPGs and other methods. With us, CBT will burn everything.

[gsev]

Quote: Alexander 3

At one time, our grandfathers burned German tanks with bottles of flammable liquid.

In Kubinka, the guide in the tank museum was a tankman from the Great Patriotic War. He told us directly that he was shuddering every time he entered the pavilion with captured German equipment. And he spoke condescendingly about Japanese tanks of that time. I myself did not encounter them in battle, but those whom I taught on the eve of the NWO against the Kwantung Army in China said that it was really easiest to shoot amphibious tanks from a heavy machine gun. If Russia has drones for all the armored vehicles of NATO countries, then it can be safely attributed to the new invasion of the German panzervafe into Russia. If not, then it is better to hit all major Ukrainian cities with hundreds of thermonuclear warheads immediately before they appear, so that this equipment moves from the Bug to the Dnieper in clouds of radioactive dust.

[Viktor Sergeev]

There is a Cornet, the main thing is more, and drones against tanks are almost useless, at least most of ours.

[Luka Nord]

Russian soldiers fear Leopard 2

This is a motivation for our soldiers and a very powerful one.
The beginning of the NWO was precisely under the red flags of our fathers and grandfathers, great-grandfathers, and this is not without reason
Now they again want to launch German tanks in Ukraine, and the Anglo-Saxons protect their own and substitute Germany again under the Russian sledgehammer.
As everything is familiar and according to the pattern ..
Russia is ready to meet both leopards and abrams and merkavs .. But then do not be offended and do not squeal to the whole world about the evil Russians!
If these NATO tanks appear on the outskirts, I think the rigidity of the NMD will change dramatically and then it will not be pinpoint strikes that will begin .. But a full-scale war with massive bombing of everything and everyone. I am even sure that this is exactly what our General Staff is waiting for
To give an order, well, all the men can be in full and 333 of all trunks
Come on, Fritz, we have been waiting for you for a long time Gorbach, you have an honorary citizen of the country and ebn, too, like that ..
So we'll pay for EVERYTHING Oh Fritz, history hasn't taught you anything, and what are our Russian-speaking people thinking about?

[vova1910]

Quote from Luka Nord

Russia is ready to meet both leopards and abrams and merkavs

The Zionist entity is sending 100 merkavs with female crews. Meehan, let's go into the trenches to smash the Judeo-Banderites. Goida.

[Argon]

Same with abrams. They prepare the ground in advance, they say it takes a long time to train, a heavy machine, etc.

[Reader 2013]

They are doing the right thing, they need to be more attentive, the car is dangerous
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[Luka Nord]

Quote: Citelle 2013

They are doing the right thing, they need to be more attentive, the car is dangerous
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Well, why is she dangerous? It burns just as brightly Dangerous crew!

[Andy_nsk]

not a specialist in tanks, but the machine gun on the turret next to the hatch for an unprotected shooter looks unconvincing for the "wunderwaffe"

[PSih2097]

And why are we talking exclusively about 72ki, there is also a T-80BVM with a T-90M, and this is not counting the anti-tank systems and minefields ...
After all, they themselves wrote:

As noted in the publication 21AAR "T-90M cannot reveal its potential in the Ukrainian conflict"

[Ezekiel 25-17]

For the sake of such a case, they can scrape together the Armat brigade.

[NikolayDS]

Well, they hope that if Leopard 2 is used anywhere, it will be exclusively in tank duels with the T-72, and then the Russians should be scared and not want to fight Germany anymore. Otherwise - why supply this kitty at all ?!

[Bingo]

The Eperny Theater, and any tank is an extremely terrible fool, it’s stupid not to be afraid of her

[Waterways 672]

I remember that at the training camp we went from the training ground through the forest to the camp. Cars sometimes drove behind. "Take to the right" - a command, we reluctantly go to the side of the road. And suddenly a terrible roar came from behind - 2 T-80 tanks. Without a command, all the "partisans" climbed on the sides. The sound from the helicopter engines was such that all the remaining leaves on the trees along the road crumbled, it was autumn.

[Hog]

The armor is super, everyone is envious.

[Bingo]

Quote: Hog

The armor is super, everyone is envious.

A platoon of Abrams captured by Iraqi infantry during Desert Storm

In general, my favorite photo of Abram)))

[NikolayDS]

Well, with whom it doesn’t happen ... If you really want to, then the abreks could pick up the top-secret titanium armor with a crowbar.

[paul3390]

to penetrate the frontal armor of the Russian T-72 tank at a distance of 2000 m or T-62 at a distance of more than 4000 m

And if we compare, say, with the T-34 - the Death Star is more ...

[megadeth]

Our grandfathers, they would have taken it apart on the T-34 ... Whoever pisses dies. Go Russia!

[AlexWar]

Why fear them, let the drones launch. Impact on the engine compartment. An explosion on the tower can bring out all the optics
In the USSR they taught how to hit correctly, let them teach fighters. Well, these hulks are not vulnerable, you need to hit it right
https://dzen.ru/a/Y9OXBzORMFOJtPhW
The most important thing is the relatively weak security of the ammunition load. As it turned out, Turkey lost most of the vehicles precisely because of the detonation of the ammunition rack.

Domestic military experts emphasize, looking at the video with the shot down "Leopards", that the placement of the main part of the Leopard tank's ammunition in the front left is a fatal mistake of the engineers, since the tank has rather weak hull protection from the sides, which breaks through with a successful shot even slightly outdated Soviet ATGM "Fagot" and leads to the undermining of warheads, the complete destruction of the machine.

True, the expert community notes that the vulnerability of the tank, even for Fagots, is not at all new. So far, not a single tank in the world can withstand a direct hit on the side of an anti-tank missile, and only the Russian T-14 "Armata" tank has protection against detonation of ammunition. In general, the level of protection "Leopard" A4 corresponds technologically to the level of the 1980s, experts say, in fact, when the "Fagot" was created.

Taking into account the fact that the Russian military now, in addition to the Bassoons, are armed with more progressive anti-tank systems - Kornet and Metis-M - we can expect that for our fighters a meeting with Leopards in the special operation zone will not be shocking fact.

[Blacksmith 55]

For some reason, no one writes that it is possible to kill the caterpillars, that is, to immobilize for some time.
A stationary tank is a great target.
Of course, the crew can make repairs, but under fire, they don’t really get repaired.

[fiv]

If you have the opportunity to aim an enemy tank in the side, there may be three reasons for this: 1. The battle formations of your unit are broken by the advancing enemy 2. You are in an ambush and the motorized infantry walking along with the tank will destroy you now. 3. You are lucky and you are at war with complete idiots. No, four reasons - You outsmarted those pigs.

[Repellent]

Quote: fiv

There can be three reasons for this: ... No, four reasons

Here's the fifth one for you: a caterpillar flew off a tank coming at you (well, he was unlucky), and the tank turned sideways towards you ...

In fact, there are plenty of reasons why. If you think with your head, a little

[fiv]

Or a strong gust of wind suddenly. Yes, I agree, miracles do happen.

[Repellent]

Quote: fiv

Or a strong gust of wind suddenly

Or I met an unsustainable hole on the road ... anything can happen in a field
Or even a mine ... from the Second World War, but under the caterpillar

Your imagination is not good enough

[fiv]

I can roughly imagine how you set the task for the fighters. You yourself, probably, won’t go against the tank at random

[Repellent]

Quote: fiv

You yourself, probably, won’t go against the tank at random

This "maybe", if you think again - can (and should) be organized artificially. And I'm not setting you a task here, but gently urging you to stop broadcasting and start thinking. The head is given to a person not only to wear a hat, yes

[fiv]

Still in it, in the head, you can eat, yes. And a winter hat. And in the summer a cap

[Hanurik]

Why reinvent the wheel? Fighters to the front, Fri funds to the flank in the forest plantation. Let the neighbors allocate a Fri group for flanking fire and that's it. The tanks move forward and are defeated from the flank, turn their foreheads into the forest and receive gifts from the side and stern. Everything has been thought of before us.

[Orkraider]

Good evening!
I think we need to add the main reason: air.
A hot time for helicopters will stand out and they will endure the main number of "cat creatures".

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote from Alexwar

The level of protection of Leopard A4 corresponds technologically to the level of the 1980s, experts say, in fact, when Fagot was created.

Modern anti-tank weapons are currently considered, for example, anti-tank missiles with tandem-cumulative warheads! These include 9M113M ("Konkurs-M"), 9M123 ("Chrysanthemum"), 9M120 ("Attack"), 9M131 ("Metis-M"), 9M133 ("Cornet") ... Anti-tank missiles with monobloc HEAT warheads are considered obsolete! These include 9M111 ("Bassoon") and 9M113 ("Competition" ... I'm not saying that the "Bassoons" were "thrown out of the army"; but they are not now considered as an effective anti-tank weapon! Currently, "Bassoons "are used mainly as "assault" (anti-bunker) and "sniper" (targets: machine gun positions, sniper positions ...) weapons! Therefore, it is ridiculous to say that anti-tankers will rely on Fagots against Leopards!

[Hiller]

Are they afraid? A normal person in battle is always characterized by the instinct of self-preservation. And it is right. And in battle, the strength of the one for whom the truth! There is no truth behind you scoundrels. Your whole story is a complete lie. And no leopards will save you. A small ring and a crosshair in the eyepiece - that's where they belong.

[Hiller]

It sucks!!! And it is true! The supply of scrap metal will not help the bastards.

[Ezekiel 25-17]

A normal person should be afraid ... But the fact that he, the Leopard, burns like the Tiger is proved by the Arabs and Kurds.

[Boycott]

In the dupu of such experts. To fight tanks, there is anti-tank artillery, it is specially sharpened for this. And the tanks have their own tasks, and shooting different cats is far from the main thing.

[Hanurik]

The voice of reason in the desert. By the way, the only time I saw the correct use of tanks was a video from the Ukrainians, where 2 of their tanks cut the road with our trucks and MTLBs driving. In this video, a bullet flew to the commander of the Ukrov tank back in the NSVT.

[Clone]

Quote: BoyCat

there is anti-tank artillery

At one time, it may have been "imprisoned". And that's artillery. During the war, as far as I remember, it was strictly forbidden to move anti-tankers to other units and units - "piece goods", however.
MT-12, after scratching its turnips, we rule out, because the Rapier is too tough to meet with modern panzers, and with her mobility ... The 2A45M anti-tank gun was made in the amount of as many as 24 pieces. How many of them have remained in service since 1988 ... we do not know. As well as the number of self-propelled guns "Sprut-SD". That's all our "purely" anti-tank artillery. So, our valiant tankers can't get away from hunting for "wild animals", foreign "generals" and other fat "rivals". ATGMs? Yes, anti-tankers, but still not artillery.

[Alexander Seklitsky]

Yes, any self-propelled guns can act as anti-tank artillery. The same hyacinth C if vlupit will not seem a little. Well, if with a red field, then you can cover the tank with any artillery

[former soldier]

In fact, a fighter should fear for his life. To die foolishly is not a great trick. The main thing is that this German piece of iron burned down.

[Maks1995]

It's just that the Smishniks happily rub their hands and share the skin of an unkilled Leopard.
Moreover, a bunch of awards have already been announced for each, despite the fact that they are not yet and will not be soon ...

so in some way these from the west are right.

And the tests have long been posted by fans on the Internet, videos on YouTube, so you don’t really need to refer to something ...

[silverwolf88]

we have something to answer ... the T-90 will be cooler ... and there are enough self-propelled chassis for anti-tank missiles ... + aviation in the form of combat helicopters with anti-tank guided missiles ... so let's see how Lepards / Leclercs / Challengers burn ... good luck to our guys in SVO

[rocket757]

The Western press announced

. They announced and announced ... is there any point in discussing this?

[agoran]

Yes, this site is read not only by Russians.
On English-language sites, he always said that the ejection seats on French fighters were not reliable, everyone laughed. But after the disaster in India, where the pilots ejected alive from the Su 2, and dead from the Mirage, for some reason everyone shut up.

[DMFalke]

Only "not a very smart person" (censorship on the site even overwrites the harmless antonym of the word smart, and then noem that there is no freedom of speech in the West ) will not be afraid of an unknown machine. T-72/80/62/64/90/55 are more or less familiar already in all manifestations, with Leopards, Abrams and Challengers we ourselves, and not through a proxy for the first time.

[Fedor Rashkin]

Western guys need self-justification.
They don’t write that they promise little, but like the Russians are frightened ...
Everything is decent and proper. And they believe in it

[Prisoner]

Well, let's say they're lying. Not a single normal Russian soldier is afraid of what he has not encountered in battle. You still have to earn the fear.

[alexey_444]

The West, like that woman, came up with it herself, then got offended at what she came up with. Only misbehaving when you raise the stakes with rotten goods, you lose more when faced with reality. Yes, the tank is not bad, but thousands of such tanks are needed. We would like to play along and make leaks that we are panicking, preparing to retreat, it is better to spend our budgets on tanks than self-propelled guns with hailstones, this is much worse, given our short-sightedness.

[NikolayDS]

Uh... Everyone is rubbing their hands like that, as if Leopards 2 are already on the front line! It's too early to share the promised reward for their destruction!

[Fat]

Put on. Russian crews, which is 6 rubles, which is 2 three rubles. Let them send more...

[YanniKounnar]

Les soldats Russes ont déjà par le passé "étripé" des "Tigres" alors de simple Léopards ...:-)


Russian soldiers already in the past "fought" "tigers", and then ordinary leopards ... :-)

[ilya63]

Explain to the amateur who has the advantage of t90 or leo in a duel?

[Hanurik]

Leo definitely. But this is a situation in a vacuum, when the tank crew missed all the reconnaissance, the infantry, got lost in the forest, went into the field and met the same crew of woodpeckers there.

[mark1]

Considering what kind of hysteria about Western tanks was staged in our media (although our tanks were just created to beat their tanks and this is a natural future meeting), Westerners may think so.

[75 Sergey]

It's worth fearing, but for each of their prodigy, there is our ingenuity.

[Alex242]

In this publication, the advantages of this vehicle over Russian MBTs are voiced: the presence of composite armor made of ceramic materials and steel; equipping with advanced optics and a fire control system that allows you to hit moving targets at any time of the day; use of modern ammunition.

well, well, let's see, in general, the article looks like a pre-sale advertisement ....

[Epaulettes]

It's good that ours are afraid. Very well. So we will have much less losses than if we were flaunting and threatening to throw hats. And so they will prepare a worthy meeting for these tanks.

[Ulan.1812]

Who is afraid? Infantry, artillery, tankers?
And fear or fear?
If they study weak points and prepare for battles, then they are not afraid.
The Western media have pushed themselves into a garbage pit and will never get out of it.

[Fangaro]

Wouldn't British soldiers be afraid of Soviet and Russian tanks?
British soldiers have seven lives?
Any enemy technique is evil.
And then it depends on who is fighting for what.
idea or money. The British military, not on their own British soil, will be motivated by money.

[Gory]

It is unlikely that their snouts will expose them closer than 2000m .. Do we have shells that paint over the optics?

[Carlos Hall]

Although Germany is a country not very at war with Russia and forced by pressure from other countries, the truth is that she is afraid that the Russians will return to Berlin

[megavolt823]

Tanks don't fight tanks. Kursk Bulge and no more. Wehrmacht strands were broken, beaten in the side or in the rear. Aviation. Howitzers could give birth. ISs. The leopard will not play much. Leclerc is clearly dangerous. But in full gear. And stuffed with chubatologists will not be given. All these tanks are like bait. For our aviation. Looks like something has already been delivered. MANPADS. Or some kind of air defense. We would like to surprise, we would do it quietly. And here with a pomp and balloons.

[digger]

Another bogey after bayraktars \ vaselines \ 777 ..... which will burn no matter what level and steepness this tank is .... at least the divine level of 2035 - all tanks are burning on the battlefield.

[Romeo]

it's all blah blah blah. The first clash will show everything. As for breaking through the 72nd from 2 km in the forehead, I strongly doubt it.

[Viktor Sergeev]

And they are not afraid of T72? A smart soldier is always afraid of the enemy and thinks how to destroy him. More Cornets need to be placed, the forehead of a Leopard or a Challenger takes with a bang.

[Vicontas]

As the folklore joke says - "A big ship - a big torpedo!" And for a large tank - a large caliber! The 2S7 gun has a caliber of 203 mm and throws shells weighing up to 47 kg for 110 km! Having received a "slap in the face" of such a weight, any tank crew will immediately precipitate with a severe shell shock, and the tank may lose its turret! Well, you shouldn’t put a gun on 47 km, but on 10 - 12 - just right. A drone is also included in the gun kit, but a pair of Pantsirs and Thors would not interfere with guarding!

[Clone]

Quote: Vicontas

And for a large tank - a large caliber! The 2S7 gun has a caliber of 203 mm

It's called "From the cannon to the sparrows!"

[Vicontas]

A sparrow weighing 60 tons? Well, you are fantastic! Well, as Ostap Bender said - "I'll give you a parabellum!" And I'll watch with interest how you counter this "sparrow"!

[Zaurbek]

Not the same experts write articles on two hosts?

[The pilot's son]

Men! Explain to me, an amateur, if you pour a bucket of gasoline on Leopard-2 and set it on fire, will he be able to continue fighting? Yes, yes, a Molotov cocktail, only 20 times more. Then the second question. What if the projectile is equipped with 10-20 liters of standard gasoline (napalm?) And yo ..., sorry, smack on the tank? I think he will fail, at least go blind. And there is no need for any penetration of 1200 mm of conditional armor and other garbage, Krasnopol, etc.. Who will explain to me why this is impossible?

[Yuri Zolotarev_2]

The cornet will make a good hole in the forehead, and the miners will test captured javelins on it!

[Alexey G]

I liked the mug of beer on the barrel in motion in the video ... a purely Bavarian standard ...
But I think when Leo gets to the eastern front, the barrel will not help.
I noticed that it is not very convenient for the loader to take the projectile and push it into the barrel. The boy is hard and uncomfortable. By the way, the first Leo resembles the forms of the Soviet IS 3 ...

that Russian soldiers are “afraid of Leopard 2 tanks”

I don't think that our guys are scared... Perhaps there is excitement, but it's like before the first sex, here you have to set it on fire for the first time... under the tower or on board, and then it will go like clockwork.

[Alexey Lantukh]

But, probably, you first need to be the first to detect, the first to shoot and the first shot to hit where you need to.

[Aleksandr42]

Under the new conditions, tanks are used in a highly specialized manner, with preliminary training and reconnaissance. Massive tank battles are a thing of the past. The tank should now be perceived not as a "battleship", but as a mobile pillbox, or as a tactical self-propelled gun.

[Rage66]

Only fools are afraid of nothing...
And Leopard tanks are afraid of Russian soldiers

[NikolayDS]

Quote: Rage66

And Leopard tanks are afraid of Russian soldiers

I think that the crews in Leopard 2 tanks (and these are unlikely to be freshly mobilized Ukrainians) when they arrive at the front line (if they do arrive!) Now do not fully understand where they will end up. Therefore, at first, many incidental situations will occur with them. And when they start to fear, it will be too late.
But from our side: of course, they are afraid, but on the other hand, "is the goose as good as it is praised", and again - they promise good money for it, so the temptation is very great.

[Vasilyevich Pensioner]

The Western press announced that Russian soldiers are "afraid of Leopard 2 tanks"

And therefore they will not capture, only one salvation - to destroy.

[Alexey Lantukh]

All the same, tank battles in the NWO were and probably will be quite rare. The main part of the tanks was hit with rocket-propelled grenade launchers, and the tanks were used mainly as mobile firing points. So we need more cornets and serious komikaze drones.

[Damask]

Here is a memory from my grandfather, you see, they will make new ones[b] [/ b] [quote] [/ quote]

[Center]

[Alexey Lamonov]

Soldiers must be wary of any enemy weapon. Russian soldiers are looking forward to "leopards". They know these tanks, they burned them in Iraq and in Syria and Libya.

[Landwarrior]

Well, that’s how any tank is scary., Even when it’s 100% your own tank on a “run-in”, for example ... Such an iron fool twenty tons in weight crawls on you, it’s really pissing ... And when it passes over you, finally ....