“T-90M cannot unlock its potential in the Ukrainian conflict”: the foreign press claims the tank’s excessive combat power

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“T-90M cannot unlock its potential in the Ukrainian conflict”: the foreign press claims the tank’s excessive combat power

Despite the attempts of Ukrainian propaganda, which is trying to denigrate all Russian combat systems, it was noticed abroad that the latest Russian T-90M tank demonstrated high combat stability during the special operation.

As noted in the publication 21AAR, the T-90M actively participated in the battles in various sectors of the front. According to the author, according to open sources that do not arouse suspicion of fabrication of evidence, in total during the conflict the Russian side lost 12 tanks of this type, including abandoned and disabled vehicles. However, the mass production of the T-90M more than compensates for the loss of a dozen MBTs.



In January 2022, it was reported that 400 T-90Ms were to enter the army. It appears that these pre-war contracts have been delivered on schedule and another major order is in the pipeline.

- indicated in the foreign press.

As the author notes, after the start of the JMD, Ukrainian officials and the media claimed that the tank manufacturer, Uralvagonzavod, allegedly stopped the production of military equipment after disrupting the supply chain due to severing ties with the West. But the real state of affairs is far from this propaganda: the army continues to receive T-90M in large quantities.

According to the author, the T-90M, having high combat characteristics, is intended primarily for breaking through enemy battle formations. However, in the conditions of a stretched front and low saturation of the front line with troops, the tank, along with other MBTs, is used as a self-propelled gun and a means of fire support, which makes its combat power redundant.

T-90M cannot unlock its potential in the Ukrainian conflict

- the author concludes.

At the same time, the logic of the author supporting Abrams deliveries is not clear. Or he is counting on the fact that they will just “break through the defensive orders of the enemy” ...

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  1. -3
    30 January 2023 18: 12
    At the same time, the logic of the author is not clear,

    Gold words! And the author of this article has no logic at all. In general, it is not clear what the article is about and, most importantly, why it was written and then published.
    1. +4
      30 January 2023 18: 19
      The original article is quite interesting, good analytics. In general, I agree with her.
      It was retold very badly, many mistakes and gag.
      1. +5
        1 February 2023 17: 36
        Can you clarify what kind of interesting analytics you found in the original?

        If I understand correctly, then the author "retold" this article https://21stcenturyasianarmsrace.com/2023/01/21/the-t-90m-is-stuck-in-a-hard-war/, which, at least, 2/3 is devoted to how Ukrainian and Russian propaganda covers the T-90, and the remaining 1/3 is about where the tank was seen in Ukraine.
    2. -3
      30 January 2023 18: 45
      However, they survived. It is not clear that it is not clear where they are pulling on VO. Yes, Roman writes 100 times more interesting.
      1. +7
        30 January 2023 19: 32
        Yes, Roman writes 100 times more interesting.

        Yes, I am like this!!! lol
      2. 0
        2 February 2023 05: 27
        Yes, Roman writes 100 times more interesting.


        More interesting for whom? For those who want to hear how bad things are? :) Most of the articles of this "author" are amateurish. He clearly does not know the topics he writes about.
  2. +19
    30 January 2023 18: 13
    T-90M cannot unlock its potential in the Ukrainian conflict
    For now, yes, but now the lepards with abrash will crawl ... then the T-90s will frolic.
    1. +3
      30 January 2023 18: 39
      From our side, another T-14 seems to be pulling up. That's when they frolic. How many pieces are already there, in the zone of
      1. Alf
        -8
        30 January 2023 19: 15
        Quote: igorbrsv
        How many pieces are already there, in the zone of

        And how many ?
        Quote: igorbrsv
        From our side, another T-14 seems to be pulling up.

        Do you have a source in the General Staff?
        1. +7
          30 January 2023 20: 35
          No. I don't have a source in GSH. But in December, the first battalion, equipped with Armata tanks, went through combat coordination in the Luhansk region. Platoon commanders were graduates of the Kazan Higher Tank School. The training of cadets has been carried out since 2021 (on them). That's all I know request
          1. Alf
            -5
            30 January 2023 20: 47
            Quote: igorbrsv
            That's all I know

            I am very happy for this fact, but training in the Luhansk region does not mean at all that they will be sent to the front.
            1. +4
              31 January 2023 10: 56
              They are preparing for the parade, definitely! Will be sent to Moscow laughing
          2. -2
            31 January 2023 11: 11
            There will be no t-14. There are no accessories for them.
          3. -3
            1 February 2023 07: 17
            Provide evidence of your words??!! Write and I can that I fought in Armata near Mariupol !!!
          4. -2
            1 February 2023 20: 19
            And who are the cadets, conscripts, contractors?
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    2. +7
      30 January 2023 18: 39
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      T-90M cannot unlock its potential in the Ukrainian conflict
      For now, yes, but now the lepards with abrash will crawl ... then the T-90s will frolic.

      Literally today I listened to an interview with a military correspondent of the NVO, and so by the end of the program, he conveyed the request of the tankers at the front line to supply them with modernized tanks .. They have heard a lot, but like the T-72M they asked, well, why not let the T-90 run in combat actions and are trained .. You need to prepare combat crews Time is difficult .. We will figure it out with Ukraine, but the Anglo-Saxons will not forgive us for this and will set it on fire somewhere else ..
      1. +14
        30 January 2023 19: 07
        The T-90M with a 2A46M5 cannon can use Lead-1 and Lead-2 BOPS, which will not be superfluous when meeting with Leopards, but according to Western media, these Leopard BOPS will not be taken head-on. But Armata with a 2A82 gun with Vacuum-1 BOPS and Vacuum-2 and the Leopards would have pierced the forehead. When will Armata go to the front? When will the losses of the T-72 from the Leopards start? It turns out that Armata was made for parades. No, in order to test the T-14 Armata in battle, identify problems in practice and quickly fix them, we begin to behave with Armata like the British with their Challengers 2. We are afraid that someone will reveal "great" secrets.

        At the moment, the best Russian BOPS are 3BM59 "Lead-1" and 3BM60 "Lead-2", made of tungsten and depleted uranium, respectively. Their penetrating power is estimated at 650-750 mm of homogeneous rolled armor at an inclination of 60 degrees at an average distance of two kilometers. rolled armor. From which follows the conclusion about the loss of Russian shells to Western armor. Although they can still penetrate it at shorter distances, as well as when they hit the side or stern projections, which are the weak point of any MBT. However, such a position for shooting still needs to be taken and it is not a fact that the enemy will allow this to be done freely.


        It was proposed to modernize weapons by installing a new 125 mm 2A82 gun and using the Vacuum BOPS 900-1000 mm long. The muzzle energy of this gun is about 1,2 times higher than that of the famous German gun Rh120L55. These plans only became reality 10 years later. When the 2A82 gun and BOPS 3BM69 "Vacuum-1" and 3BM70 "Vacuum-2" (made of tungsten and depleted uranium) were created, the length of which is 900 mm. According to the available information, the speed of these BOPS is 2000 m / s. and at a distance of 2 km, Vacuum-type projectiles, having an energy of 15 megajoules, are capable of penetrating armor with a thickness of 900 to 1000 mm. Which deprives Western MBTs of their existing security advantage.

        https://www.belrynok.by/2019/04/22/bronebojnye-snaryady-kak-probit-neprobivaemoe/
        1. +11
          30 January 2023 19: 20
          First, attack helicopters will frolic. Then maybe art on a tip. And only then tanks, if there are still cats left.
          1. +7
            30 January 2023 19: 33
            Quote: Wedmak
            First, attack helicopters will frolic. Then maybe art on a tip. And only then tanks, if there are still cats left.


            Air defense helicopters will interfere, and artillery is already loaded to capacity. It would be nice to use the rumored ground-based Hermes and the new Kh-MD (Kh-MD-E) missile for attack drones. Both products have a 30 kg high-explosive fragmentation warhead. high-explosive warhead 152 kg.
          2. +3
            31 January 2023 05: 44
            Why are they not frolicking now?
            We haven't started fighting yet, have we?
          3. +2
            31 January 2023 10: 24
            Quote: Wedmak
            First, attack helicopters will frolic. Then maybe art on a tip. And only then tanks, if there are still cats left.

            Practice has shown that helicopters will not develop. Recently, a video was posted here where several dozen armored vehicles, including four enemy tanks, are moving in an open field and only one of our tanks is resisting. no helicopters. So it was in the summer when the enemy's air defense was less saturated
          4. 0
            1 February 2023 20: 25
            First you need to develop brains and only then write! And it’s best to take an active part in hostilities that way for a year at a time
        2. +6
          30 January 2023 19: 52
          according to Western media reports, these Leopard BOPS will not be taken in the forehead

          And when they take it, will the aforementioned media write a refutation?
        3. -8
          31 January 2023 05: 43
          Yes, no one will go anywhere, cool down: everything has already been stolen before us.
          There is no Armata (one or two dozen pieces assembled for parades do not count).
          There is no Almaty and will not be.
          The money was allocated and drank, we all disperse.
      2. +6
        30 January 2023 19: 11
        An excess of power is not very bad for urep areas and it will be just right for abrams with leopards. There are many worthy crews there and they would be retrained for new cars, and although this is fast, it also takes time. Most importantly, worthy crews do not abandon equipment to the last and will not leave a brand new tank to be studied by the enemy.
      3. 0
        2 February 2023 06: 58
        Quote from Luka Nord
        like T-72 M asked

        From whom did they ask for the T-72M, from the Poles, from the Czechs, or where? The RF Armed Forces never had these tanks (this tank is from the SVD wink ), and those 72s that are, underwent a deep modernization to the T-72B3M version, which, in fact, is not much inferior to the T-90
    3. AAK
      +2
      30 January 2023 21: 36
      The main thing is that their crews are not from the Kantemirov division ... they have already "got drunk" to the very worst ...
    4. 0
      31 January 2023 18: 40
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      T-90M cannot unlock its potential in the Ukrainian conflict
      For now, yes, but now the lepards with abrash will crawl ... then the T-90s will frolic.

      What other "potential release" do they need? Tanks work like highly protected artillery points, even from covered positions. It’s just that in the West they didn’t expect that Russian tanks would not burn in frontal attacks, but would work effectively with all types of weapons available. Here the sciences fully reveal, and therefore all the "coolness" is required. Then maybe it will come, hu from hu.
  3. +10
    30 January 2023 18: 13
    “T-90M cannot unlock its potential in the Ukrainian conflict”: the foreign press claims the tank’s excessive combat power

    Lack of power is much worse.
  4. +18
    30 January 2023 18: 14
    which makes his combat power redundant

    let it be excessive than insufficient - you never know for sure
    1. +7
      30 January 2023 19: 29
      let it be redundant

      A tank cannot have excessive combat power, just as there cannot be excess money in your pocket wink
  5. +4
    30 January 2023 18: 16
    Not all at once. The time will come - will reveal soldier
  6. -14
    30 January 2023 18: 19
    To the authors of the article - you were mistaken, this is not a star channel and not a report to the president
  7. +2
    30 January 2023 18: 20
    The article correctly notes our very painful problem - the low saturation of the front. An example is a recent video of a lone tank against dozens of armored vehicles near Hersor. The Armed Forces of Ukraine always have Western intelligence data on weak points in the defense
  8. +9
    30 January 2023 18: 22
    in total, during the conflict, the Russian side lost 12 tanks of this type

    In January 2022, it was reported that 400 T-90Ms were to enter the army. It appears that these pre-war contracts were completed on schedule.

    Yesterday I heard on TV that the American military-industrial complex is ready to supply the US Army with 12 Abrams a year.

    Either the journalists messed up something again, or "the whole world will wait 40 years" while they rivet tanks for their army.
    1. +9
      30 January 2023 18: 31
      The journalists got confused.

      About 400 units, the original article talks about armored vehicles, not T-90M.
      Link to this news: https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/13348011?ysclid=ldiynv34pt456847288

      He writes about the supply of T-90M
      From September 2022 to January 2023, as many as 66 separate T-90Ms appeared in various Russian news and media from “open sources”.

      About the Abrams is also nonsense. In peacetime, they produced 20-30 tanks per month (repair + modernization).
    2. +9
      30 January 2023 21: 10
      12 abrams per month - the capacity of the modernization plant. The production plant (full cycle) has long been liquidated in the United States.
  9. +2
    30 January 2023 18: 26
    I really hope that the tank will show itself, good. And yes, it does look very nice. Like ,, Mercedes ,,) I am not special in these matters, so if there are graduates of tank schools on the site, I apologize.
  10. -4
    30 January 2023 18: 30
    Reason for no breaks:
    saturated anti-tank defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And forward intelligence.
    Mobile groups on armored personnel carriers and pickups
    quickly move to the place of concentration of tanks.
    Each pickup truck has its own reconnaissance drones. And ... Javelins, Nlau, Strugny ...
    And the breakthrough ends.
    1. +2
      30 January 2023 18: 44
      The reason is the small number of forces involved. Tanks may reach Kyiv at once. Who will run after them? Where to break through? They will level the front line, then they will hit with powerful strike groups in different parts of the front. There are remedies for stubborn
    2. 0
      30 January 2023 19: 00
      The reason for the lack of breakthroughs: ...... And the breakthrough ends.
      so along the entire line only extrusion or a maximum of tactical detours.
      a breakthrough, as I see it, will be organized to encircle large groups.
      breakthroughs have not even begun, except for February 2022.
      .
      what do you mean by front-line intelligence?
    3. +1
      30 January 2023 20: 10
      Are you talking about the famous breakthrough on the Merkava now?
  11. +2
    30 January 2023 18: 32
    Western commentators cast a shadow over the wattle fence, for which he is paid. And why do we reprint this nonsense? Can't they do the analysis themselves? And after all, someone pays them for this, too.
  12. +4
    30 January 2023 18: 49
    “T-90M cannot unlock its potential in the Ukrainian conflict”: the foreign press claims the tank’s excessive combat power.” It’s okay. Let it reveal as much as possible.
  13. +14
    30 January 2023 18: 54
    how many T 90m tanks in the troops. Under the contract on August 21, 18, which was completed only in 21, 30 tanks. In 21, in a single day of acceptance, it was about 26 units already ready. The capacity of the Uralvagon plant is 65 T-90 m tanks per year. At the beginning of 22, there were 2 contracts for 100 tanks from June 28, 2019 and August 24, 2021. The tanks are not all new, but modernized. From T90 .. Thus, in terms of production speed, no more than 100 units. Loss of 14 in total 86 units or so. If. Rostec’s comrades didn’t fuss. Why am I writing this, simply according to military blogger Vladlen Tatarsky the newly created units are not equipped with equipment at all, and the shells are very bad. .The idea is, if the Uralvagonzavod stupidly hesitates and does not try, then maybe it’s time to put the Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant on military rails., Which also belongs to Rostec .. Stalin returned Vannikov from prison and shot him and made him a commissar of ammunition. we had an old friend of VVP Chemezov on everything. And he remained. In the USSR there were more than 6 defense ministries of the Ministry of Defense Industry. Minobshchemash, Minsredmash, Minaviaprom. Alas.
  14. +4
    30 January 2023 19: 19
    There is never too much combat power, it will come in handy for foreign adversaries.
  15. +1
    30 January 2023 19: 21
    It looks like the T-90m goes to the troops in good batches. Which is very pleasing.
  16. +2
    30 January 2023 19: 23
    There is no excess power for a tank. If only the projectile / blank pierces the enemy's armor through and through without accidentally hitting the crew or equipment. And the enemy is rolling with this hole. smile
  17. +4
    30 January 2023 19: 51
    In January 2022, it was reported that 400 T-90Ms were to enter the army.

    Somehow unbelievable.
    1. Alf
      +2
      30 January 2023 20: 01
      Quote: Adrian28
      In January 2022, it was reported that 400 T-90Ms were to enter the army.

      Somehow unbelievable.

      It is very plausible, because during what period they will arrive, it is not said ...
      1. +1
        31 January 2023 09: 19
        In January 2022, it was reported that 400 T-90Ms were to enter the army. It seems that these pre-war contracts were completed on schedule
  18. +1
    30 January 2023 19: 51
    Quote: 23424636
    The idea is, if the Uralvagonzavod stupidly hesitates and does not try, then maybe it's time to put the Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant on a war footing., Which also belongs to Rostec.

    Alas, ChTZ was buried by effective managers, only its engine plant is operating at full capacity (there has always been a state order for tank diesel engines), the main conveyor where tractors were assembled was sawn into metal. Alas, there is nothing to launch there, if only the sawn workshops are rebuilt.
  19. -1
    30 January 2023 20: 02
    Yes. But like Leopard, ours were frightened.
    The German was made specially for this war .... Haha
  20. -3
    30 January 2023 20: 41
    Russian tanks are better than Western tanks, they have a smaller target, they have more firepower. Crews are more combat-ready. In addition, western tanks will be captured and their secrets can be used as a supplement.
    1. Qas
      +1
      31 January 2023 14: 31
      Excuse me, are you not Russian?
      What is it: "they have a smaller goal"? Maybe smaller size? "The crews are more combat-ready ..." - what is this coming from? Have you decided so?
      "Their secrets can be used as a supplement" is how?
    2. +1
      1 February 2023 00: 52
      Has Russian electronics gone ahead of Western electronics?
  21. Uno
    +2
    30 January 2023 21: 43
    Strange "article", it is necessary to make conditions and then uuuuh. But the war is not like that, here you either do or the enemy does, and the rest does not count
  22. +2
    31 January 2023 01: 36
    T-90M cannot unlock its potential in the Ukrainian conflict

    - the author concludes.
    With a hint of what will be "revealed" in the open spaces of the gaygopa? laughing
  23. +4
    31 January 2023 02: 33
    In January 2022, it was reported that 400 T-90Ms were to enter the army.

    Read the news carefully, Mr. Lyushilin!

    Earlier it was reported that in 2022 the Ground Forces of the RF Armed Forces are scheduled to receive more than 400 units of armored vehicles.
    Armored vehicles include infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers, and in addition to the T-90M, tanks of other models, T-72B3 and T-80BVM, are supplied to the army ....
    For the 22nd, the army received a maximum of two T-90M tank battalions, and in the 23rd it is unlikely that there will be more than 100 units.
  24. 0
    31 January 2023 02: 59
    Klipu - offset! Well, they count chickens in the fall ...
  25. 0
    31 January 2023 04: 35
    Oh, maybe I served 20 years ago in the tank. But even then, purely subjectively, I saw the direction of development of tank guns exclusively based on the LP-83 152MM and no less. Leave the current caliber and shells for existing and modernized tanks, and develop a new one only for 152.
  26. +5
    31 January 2023 05: 53
    Quote: igorbrsv
    From our side, another T-14 seems to be pulling up. That's when they frolic. How many pieces are already there, in the zone of

    I think the T-14 is already a television parade tank. Like the T-35. It has no analogues. smile
    1. +2
      31 January 2023 08: 09
      And again "stool" .. It was at his time (German armor for cars and transporters, French helicopter carrier) that adversary components for equipment were allowed ....
      1. +1
        1 February 2023 00: 49
        Expert, T-90M and Armata were developed under Serdyukov, but then Shoigu came and instead of buying modern tanks, he began to modernize the T-72.
        Why equipment from adversaries, it is better to wait 20 years until they give birth to their own
    2. 0
      31 January 2023 13: 15
      The T-35 is rather the progenitor of the BMPT terminator, and at the time of its creation, at the beginning of the 30s, it was really a breakthrough. And even during the war years, their unsuccessful use was caused by the general problems of the unmobilized army and, as a result, the general defeat on the fronts, and not by the fact that the tank was bad. Of course, he was already outdated, but in general he could act effectively, especially if he had the support of other tanks. As an anti-personnel weapon, it was not bad even at the beginning of the war.
  27. -1
    31 January 2023 08: 05
    Somewhere I heard about "excessive" power .. Yeah, before the Second World War, they discontinued production and sent 55 mm for storage. an anti-tank gun ... And then when they hastily returned it turned out that there were not enough "crowbars" for it
  28. +2
    31 January 2023 08: 36
    Wangyu that the author didn’t even sit in a trench against the T-62 ..... and the reasoning and conclusions are not for one volume of publications.
    1. -2
      31 January 2023 12: 53
      T-62m model 22 is good, the only negative is that there is no modern ammunition for it. It may not make sense to make crowbars, new ones, on the principle that new scrap will still not break through something modern, but modern cumulative and shrapnel would be interesting.
      He is a cumulative not only against tanks, but also against concrete field fortifications, and tanks, let's say the old ones can be taken at long distances, with a new sight, he will probably be able to hit standing vehicles for 3 km. Scrap, even a new one won’t do anything special at such a distance, but a modern cumulative can take it. Not all of course, but old ones or from a side projection.
    2. 0
      31 January 2023 18: 33
      Like most humanitarians, he probably fell away from the army .. tongue
  29. 0
    31 January 2023 08: 38
    The T-90M is by no means the newest. Modernized - so more precisely. The latest T-14. But it seems to exist and it seems not to exist. And there is nothing new in the Super-Like-Odoleniya zone. Except AK-12. And the AK-12 is an upgrade of the AK-74. So there is nothing new there.
    1. +1
      31 January 2023 13: 18
      How not the newest, when the last one in service. And even if we are talking about the first models, then it is all the more modern than leopards and abrams ... Because these are tanks of the early 80s, and he is of the 90s. Therefore, it is essentially the most modern tank, at least in Europe and America ...
  30. 0
    31 January 2023 09: 29
    By and large, if you use the tank as a protected self-propelled gun to support the advancing infantry or as a stationary firing point, then the T90M is really redundant, the T62 with a new sight will be just right, the saturation of orders with tanks can be increased by an order of magnitude.
  31. +2
    31 January 2023 09: 34
    not sure what the article is about. Why do moderators let this pass?
    1. 0
      31 January 2023 18: 35
      "trend" however .. against the backdrop of leopards and abrams, what can not be printed!
  32. 0
    31 January 2023 11: 12
    Well, tanks are tanks, and now the copter operator is much more important)
    1. +1
      31 January 2023 11: 19
      I would put it differently. Each tank commander should have a picture from the copter and tips from the operator of this copter.
  33. -1
    31 January 2023 11: 37
    The T-90M contains the positive things that have accumulated while working on the Armata. If it weren’t for the waste of money on this unfortunate tank, we would have thousands of T-90Ms. In the work on Armata, all the shortcomings of the modern. society - stupidity, illiteracy, talkativeness. It's good that they realized at least in time and began to sculpt the Breakthrough-3 T-90M in the ROC.
  34. -1
    31 January 2023 12: 01
    "Excessive combat power ...." - I once read something similar. Ah, I remembered! Before World War II, at the behest of Guru Kulik and the generals who joined him, the 57-mm ZiS-2 was discontinued.
    Like, expenses and troubles? Let's throw Nemchuru with their cardboard tanks with proletarian hats!
    They threw it.
    All the way to Moscow and Stalingrad.
    1. +3
      31 January 2023 12: 34
      They removed it for the same reason that the SVT-40 was removed from production, it was not the steepness of the guns that was important, but the quantity that could be produced. Therefore, 37 and 45 were riveted ... And this is justified, 45, in principle, and so it took any German tank at 41 at all distances at which it was realistic to hit ... But they could be produced more and much more shells were produced for them.
      37 as a whole was outdated, but in general I took pz2-pz3 ... But the main one was 45.
      1. +2
        31 January 2023 15: 22
        SVT-40 was not completely removed from production, but significantly reduced production AFTER the start of the war and the loss of a HUGE amount of riflemen in warehouses. It was necessary to recover the losses urgently, which means that the simpler - "mosquitoes".
        And the ZiS-2 was taken out of production BEFORE the start of the war, believing that Hitler would fight like this all his life on “ones” and “twos”, and rare “triples” and “fours” could be scored with bundles of “RG-33”.
      2. Alf
        +1
        31 January 2023 20: 16
        Quote: Georgy Sviridov_2
        For this, 37 and 45 were riveted ...

        The 37 mm 1-K gun was discontinued back in 1932 due to the launch of the 45 mm model 32 gun.
  35. 0
    31 January 2023 12: 06
    What kind of nonsense?
    In January 2022, it was reported that 400 T-90Ms were to enter the army.
    in such a time it is impossible to produce such a number of such tanks. It turns out almost 40 tanks per month. The Russian defense industry does not have such capacities. Yes, and according to information from witnesses, we can talk about less than 50 units TOTAL. There was a delivery recently, so there were less than 10 cars sent and they were assembled no one knows how many.
  36. -1
    31 January 2023 12: 29
    Abrams and with weakened armor, and most likely will not do anything with the newest ammunition ... He will not penetrate the forehead of the tower, but the hull will probably be able to, another thing is that the t90m will also pierce the hull, and hiding the low hull of the t-90m is much easier. And the Abrams tower is not a fact for him that he will break through at point-blank range. The T-90m is also not a fact, American, but an export one with weakened armor can be taken point-blank.
    In general, the most intelligent one in a particular case is Challenger 2, because it is not exported and it has very good all-round armor ..
    The same RPG-7, even in tandem, may not take the board. They definitely won’t take old shots, they won’t take SPG-9 either.
    Leopards, if a6, then sensible, if A4 then slag, it is worse than t72b3, a5 is better, but there is still a short barrel, he won’t take the turrets of modern tanks from decent distances ...
  37. 0
    31 January 2023 12: 52
    The logic of a sick Satanist! You might think that Leopards and Abrams do not have excessive combat power.
  38. +2
    31 January 2023 19: 32
    The nonsense is written. The author, apparently, was one of those who had previously smeared snot around Almaty. Now he's trying. The car is good, but we must remember that the other side is not plywood with a slingshot.
  39. +2
    31 January 2023 19: 38
    the tank, along with other MBTs, is used as a self-propelled gun and a means of fire support, which makes its combat power redundant.


    It even became interesting what else should OBT do? This is his main task. Helicopters and birdwatchers work with enemy tanks.
  40. 0
    31 January 2023 20: 53
    They are trying to lull our vigilance, but to hell with them.
    Oh, to destroy with precise strikes the equipment and ammunition of the Armed Forces of Ukraine stored on the territory of the nuclear power plant
  41. +1
    31 January 2023 21: 42
    Quote from Orange Bigg
    When will Armata go to the front?

    Alas, according to a traceable trend, Armata is a tank for parades, where the announcer pronounces odes to the tank to the howl of the crowd, there are no analogues. etc
    It is impossible for the prestige of the tank to suffer in battles and, God forbid, it would be trophyed and ended up on the baptismal site at a display of damaged equipment.
  42. +1
    31 January 2023 22: 05
    Quote: novel xnumx
    Yes, I am like this!!!

    Modesty adorns a real songwriter))
  43. 0
    1 February 2023 00: 46
    The gun is an old 2A46, and not from an armata, as they panned, the optics are 20 years behind the western ones, the shells are old.
    Good only against the background of old Ukrainian tanks, it doesn’t pull against new Western ones
  44. 0
    1 February 2023 08: 06
    Nothing, he will reveal, but now he is doing his job. But yes, without a serious opponent, the T90M is just an excellent tank with a huge reserve.
  45. 0
    1 February 2023 08: 30
    Yes, and let the power be redundant.
    Suffice it to recall the 57-mm anti-tank guns, the production of which was curtailed at the beginning of the Second World War due to their excess power.
    A couple of years later, this sharply became relevant and the release had to be re-established.
  46. -1
    1 February 2023 09: 36
    How many specialists we have, just all the professors and t-90s are waiting for deliveries any minute and the t-14s will go to Kyiv in parade formation, and somewhere we have special-purpose units hidden until X hour, everything is going according to plan, yeah ...... on paper. And who will say where are our 14000 tanks, supposedly in service, and even last year they could have smashed all of Ukraine and all of Europe along the way, or they are only listed on paper, and they have long been sold to those who have them now supplies to Ukraine. Yes, take a closer look, we are fighting with old weapons, and even UAVs have begun to be mastered along the way, and you are hoping for something with this command. Yes, they have already missed everything that is possible and impossible. Now they will make it until the summer, when the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will begin with the Leopards and Abrams and trained units that have come from somewhere.
  47. 0
    1 February 2023 13: 00
    T-90M cannot unlock its potential in the Ukrainian conflict

    ... will open in full on the European front !!!