The Ministry of Defense undertakes the full provision of volunteer detachments participating in the NWO

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The Ministry of Defense undertakes the full provision of volunteer detachments participating in the NWO

The Ministry of Defense will take over the full support of volunteer detachments participating in hostilities in the zone of the special military operation. This is stated in the draft order being prepared, published on the portal of draft legal acts.

The Russian military department will take over the full provision of volunteers according to the standards of the Russian army, including the provision weapons, technology and medical care. Those. in providing the volunteers will be equated to the military personnel of the Russian army. All standards of provision, including clothing, food, medical, etc. will be set out in the appendix to the order.



It is also noted that the fighters of volunteer detachments will be financially responsible for the property received, it will not be transferred for personal use, so it will need to be handed over at the end of the contracts. Other details will be known after the publication of the order, which will come into force from the moment of publication. As emphasized in the Ministry of Defense, additional funding is not required to provide volunteers.

(...) Volunteers are held liable for material damage caused through their fault to the state in the performance of assigned duties, in the manner prescribed by law for military personnel of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation

- says the press service of the military department.

Previously, volunteers participating in hostilities in the NVO zone were equated with "combat veterans." In addition, volunteers who have received severe wounds or injuries in the service receive the status of combat invalids. In addition, Russian volunteers were equated with military personnel, giving them the same rights as contracted military personnel.
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    1. +25
      30 January 2023 13: 13
      "The Russian military department will take over the full provision of volunteers according to the standards of the Russian army, including the provision of weapons"
      I didn’t understand something, but before that, what did a volunteer need to buy a carbine in a hunting store?
      1. +2
        30 January 2023 13: 15
        It's just some kind of surrealism, die yourself, the next one will raise the rifle ..... they think they are completely sheep.
        1. +6
          30 January 2023 13: 48
          Quote: Alien From
          die yourself, the next one will raise the rifle ..... they think they are completely sheep.

          sur not in this, but in the fact that at the front there is a crowd of INDEPENDENT armed formations, simply a mess and Makhnovshchina
          there cannot be separate Cossack or any other units there should be the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation UNDER A SINGLE COMMAND
          1. -1
            30 January 2023 15: 48
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            sur not in this, but in the fact that at the front there is a crowd of INDEPENDENT armed formations, simply a mess and Makhnovshchina

            How long have you been from the front?
            1. -5
              30 January 2023 15: 51
              stupid hint, do you think MO is lying?
              1. -1
                30 January 2023 16: 56
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                stupid hint, do you think MO is lying?

                Why podnachka?
                You are performing brilliantly. So I decided to clarify - where did the firewood come from?
                You all answered clearly.
                1. -4
                  30 January 2023 20: 12
                  firewood from the ability to manage, and skill from experience
          2. 0
            31 January 2023 14: 56
            Do not talk nonsense in the yard, not in 2014, where Girkin - Strelkov was his own commander in chief and a businessman and minister. This time there are no independent armed formations, they are all subordinate to either the LPR or the DPR, whether they are fans, Cossacks or Serbs, it does not matter. But mostly subordination to units of the AFRF. Our Primorsky consolidated detachment Tiger, created on the basis of the Marine Corps of the Pacific Fleet, is subordinate to the AFRF, only it had supplies from the region, our governor and Government Prim. the region bought everything you need, from sleeping bags and medicine to quadrocopters and walkie-talkies, thank God now the RF Ministry of Defense will supply.
      2. +5
        30 January 2023 13: 17
        They had interesting weapons. According to one of the fighters of volunteer Cossack formations, weapons were received from capture warehouses in the Donbass. Although this is unlikely. They received weapons and ammunition from the Moscow Region.
        1. +7
          30 January 2023 13: 36
          grandmothers nod and knit socks ... and the people are dragging, who is the "junk", who is the sleeping bag. And the "reception points" are growing by leaps and bounds.
        2. +5
          30 January 2023 13: 43
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          fighters of volunteer Cossack formations received weapons from capture warehouses in the Donbass.

          wink Exactly. Former Ukrainians on the territory of the LDNR
        3. +2
          30 January 2023 13: 46
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          According to one of the soldiers of the volunteer Cossack formations

          this is generally some kind of sur, which means voluntary formations in the front line, from the point of view of the law, this is an ILLEGAL ARMED FORMATION
          I am infuriated by this regular division of not NM LPR, WAGNER, RF Armed Forces, do we have a big top there?!!!!
          1. 0
            30 January 2023 16: 08
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            what does voluntary formations in the front line mean, from the point of view of the law, this is an ILLEGAL ARMED FORMATION

            These, in your opinion, illegal formations have been protecting the people of Donbass since 2014. And now they are fighting more successfully than many.
            PMC Wagner is also an illegal armed formation. And in fact the prototype of the future army.
            And in terms of tactics, and in terms of equipment with communications, UAVs, etc.
            1. +5
              30 January 2023 16: 15
              Quote: Alex777
              These, in your opinion, illegal formations have been protecting the people of Donbass since 2014

              They were not part of the Russian Federation, the laws of Russia did not apply to these territories. Only from October 3, 2022, this is the territory of the Russian Federation.
              Participation, organization, recruitment in PMCs is a more serious crime than just an illegal armed formation, they are subject to mercenarism Article 359, depending on the deed, up to 15-20 years in prison.
              Naturally, this is done on purpose, it was possible to legalize PMCs in a couple of months.
              1. -1
                30 January 2023 16: 54
                Quote from cold wind
                Participation, organization, recruitment in PMCs is a more serious crime than just an illegal armed formation, they are subject to mercenarism Article 359, depending on the deed, up to 15-20 years in prison.
                Naturally, this is done on purpose, it was possible to legalize PMCs in a couple of months.

                Why PMCs remain in the "gray zone" - I do not quite understand.
                A possible version is that there is no PMC, there is no problem.
                And the West has no one to pinch, and we will have to eliminate contradictions in the legislation for a couple of days. However, there may be a secret decree regulating the situation.
                The fact that the Ministry of Defense took volunteers for supply, as it were, hints that everything is not just like that.
                1. +2
                  30 January 2023 18: 57
                  Quote: Alex777
                  Why PMCs remain in the "gray zone" - I do not quite understand.

                  As I understand it, so that they can be entrusted with tasks from the implementation of which the state wants to distance itself. Payment for services through offshore companies. ends in the water. hi
                2. +3
                  30 January 2023 23: 24
                  Why PMCs remain in the "gray zone" - I do not quite understand.

                  Hello. I believe that, firstly, it is still necessary to formalize them legislatively, it is still necessary to write a law, somehow regulate activities, decide what they can and cannot, but there is probably no opinion on this topic that has been formed to the end. And then what good the written law will also have to be executed. And if you do not write the law, then you can "solve all the issues on the knee" along the way. Who can and cannot use PMCs, where to use them and where not to use them, who to equip them with, etc.

                  The fact that the Ministry of Defense took volunteers for supply, as it were, hints that everything is not just like that.

                  The fact that it took them for supply hints that these volunteers were there before on incomprehensible rights and that they disposed of them somehow vaguely. I agree with the opinion that volunteers should have been first of all staffed, and not created separate ones.
                  1. +1
                    30 January 2023 23: 28
                    Hello!
                    I agree with you. ))
            2. -3
              30 January 2023 20: 14
              Quote: Alex777
              These, in your opinion, illegal formations have been protecting the people of Donbass since 2014. And now they are fighting more successfully than many.

              well, they stupidly let us down again, all the formations ended after the referendums and the presidential decree,
              Quote: Alex777
              PMC Wagner is also an illegal armed formation. And in fact the prototype of the future army.

              in terms of the law?
              1. +2
                31 January 2023 22: 32
                You first decide from the point of view of the law where there are 1.5 million sets of uniforms. But then climb into the combat effectiveness of individual formations
          2. +3
            30 January 2023 20: 21
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            Quote from: dmi.pris1
            According to one of the soldiers of the volunteer Cossack formations

            this is generally some kind of sur, which means voluntary formations in the front line, from the point of view of the law, this is an ILLEGAL ARMED FORMATION
            I am infuriated by this regular division of not NM LPR, WAGNER, RF Armed Forces, do we have a big top there?!!!!

            I think it would be like that. Otherwise, the volunteers would not have performed their task even now, except for ammunition and weapons. Sniper weapons were even "volunteer" at the expense of fundraising by the people.
      3. +3
        30 January 2023 13: 45
        If a volunteer took part in hostilities as part of a volunteer (militia) formation (battalion, detachment, etc. ...), and not a regular army, he was given weapons there ...
        1. 0
          30 January 2023 13: 49
          Quote: ABC-schütze
          If a volunteer took part in hostilities as part of a volunteer (militia) formation (battalion, detachment, etc. ...), and not a regular army
          this could only be until 24.02.22/XNUMX/XNUMX after it's all Makhnovshchina and a mess
          1. +5
            30 January 2023 14: 17
            Given the "quality of planning" of the NWO, and the "negotiating approaches" of the political leadership to its initial phase, this is highly doubtful ...

            In addition, it is clearly not realistic to adopt a significant part of the same territorial formations of the DPR and LPR, where there were volunteer brigades and battalions, for allowance and supply of the Russian Armed Forces ...

            Already, if only because, for starters, it was necessary to thoroughly clarify their "states", structure and REAL staffing level. And equipment ...
            1. -2
              30 January 2023 14: 19
              Quote: ABC-schütze
              In addition, it is clearly not realistic to adopt a significant part of the same territorial formations of the DPR and LPR, where there were volunteer brigades and battalions, for allowance and supply of the Russian Armed Forces ...

              it is not realistic in such conditions to expect the achievement of goals
              1. -6
                30 January 2023 16: 12
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                it is not realistic in such conditions to expect the achievement of goals

                Goals will be achieved. Regardless of expectations.
                1. -1
                  30 January 2023 20: 15
                  Quote: Alex777
                  Goals will be achieved. Regardless of expectations.

                  from the fact that a hundred times you say halva ...
      4. +6
        30 January 2023 13: 48
        Yes, our Defense Ministry still needs to train reservists. What will happen if there is a second wave of mobilization? We gave you a summons and on command you are obliged to appear at the collection point. And to prepare reservists and assemble them into units? Of course, you need to prepare for three months. But on the other hand, during mobilization, the army will receive fighters already trained in the VUS. They will only have to be distributed in parts or sent as ready-made units. Although, of course, combat experience will not replace training experience and it will be necessary to dilute combat units with replenishment. And by itself, a volunteer without VUS does not mean anything, even dressed with the help of MO. Today, not the Middle Ages when they fought with a sword and a spear.
        1. +1
          31 January 2023 11: 14
          Well, at the initial stage of the civil war, on the territory of the former united Ukraine, unleashed by the Kyiv coupists, from the Donbas side, volunteer formations fought, the personnel of which still had Soviet military training (at least at the level of an individual fighter) and were armed and equipped, mostly, also weapons and weapons and military equipment, Soviet-made ...

          So, INITIALLY, there was no problem of "preliminary" training of the personnel of volunteer formations. And for NINE YEARS of continuous participation in hostilities, they also gained PRACTICAL, DURABLE, COMBAT EXPERIENCE ...

          So there is a "difference" which volunteer. If a young, untrained "enthusiast" who, without waiting for mobilization, TODAY, himself goes to that or other Russian formations (including, by the way, the so-called "PMC" ...) or to the military registration and enlistment office, to enter the service , this is one...

          If a volunteer, for NINE YEARS, who has already become a PROFESSIONAL, this is different ...
      5. +9
        30 January 2023 13: 55
        I didn’t understand something, but before that, what did a volunteer need to buy a carbine in a hunting store?

        Yes, here, in general, the devil will break his leg ... Why were some "volunteers" needed, and how do they differ from full-time contract soldiers? Pan ataman Gritian Tauride wants to be a free bird?
      6. -4
        30 January 2023 13: 59
        Quote: Lt. air force reserve
        "The Russian military department will take over the full provision of volunteers for
        norms
        Russian army, including the provision of weapons"
        I didn’t understand something, but before that, what did a volunteer need to buy a carbine in a hunting store?

        We are talking about the standards of the army of the Russian Federation. They could have given a volunteer a mosquito. Four horns were given to AKM, for example, cartridges could issue one tracer) grenades could give two, or they might not.
      7. +1
        30 January 2023 16: 21
        Quote: Lt. air force reserve
        I didn’t understand something, but before that, what did a volunteer need to buy a carbine in a hunting store?

        Differently. There were a lot of captured weapons in the LDNR battalions.
        BARS is a complex topic. It seems that the Moscow Region organized them, but the contracts are not with the Moscow Region, but with Horns and Hooves LLC.
        The Wagners are self-supporting. They buy it themselves and give it to the fighters.
        And their own air defense, and tanks and planes. As for tanks and planes, I won’t say where.
        But a semi-guerrilla war is one thing, and the one that is now underway is another.
        The same Khodakovsky at first complained that they were pinched on ammunition and fire support. Shells saved.
        And ammunition in this war needs a lot and on time.
        So the decision is long overdue. It's good that he was accepted.
    2. +19
      30 January 2023 13: 14
      plywood gave birth in the night, either a decree, or a daughter ...

      the 12th month of the OWN was going on in the yard ...
      1. +3
        30 January 2023 13: 22
        Well, what do we want, they live either in a different reality, or on another planet ....
        1. +5
          30 January 2023 13: 38
          The Russian military department will take over the full provision of volunteers
          and they allegedly already provided for all those mobilized? Nothing in the cart so far for drones and so on. Are there fees?
          1. +1
            30 January 2023 16: 24
            Quote: Novichek)
            Nothing in the cart so far for drones and so on. Are there fees?

            Fees and after the end of the SVO will not immediately stop.
            In addition to those who really help, it seems that there are plenty of crooks on this.
        2. -1
          30 January 2023 14: 02
          Quote: Alien From
          Well, what do we want, they live either in a different reality, or on another planet ....

          It seems that it is only you who read from another reality or read thoughtlessly and think out.
    3. -4
      30 January 2023 13: 20
      Igor Strelkov:

      Front near Donetsk:

      The offensive in Marinka has been stopped at the moment. Despite all the loud statements that "just about" - to completely liberate the village before the end of January, it was not possible.

      Fierce fighting in the area of ​​the village of Vodiane - south of Avdeevka - also did not bring decisive success to the RF Armed Forces (or rather, to the units of the former DPR NM corps "listed" in the RF Armed Forces). After initial successes and breaking through the front lines of the enemy's defenses, the offensive "stuck" due to heavy losses in the infantry assault units, lack of artillery ammunition and - in general - poor technical support for the attacking units and their low staffing. At the same time, no one (from the people at the front) can definitely tell me whether they took Vodyanoye completely or only partially.

      Under Ugledar, bravura statements about a breakthrough directly in the urban-type settlement turned out to be a lie (expectedly, because Deniska Pushilin shouted the loudest about this - and he is an expert precisely and only on lies, theft and cheating). The village, which has long been turned into a single fortress, is a compact microdistrict of high-rise buildings in the middle of continuous flat fields, but it was not possible to take it in a "swoop". Now the troops trying to storm it are in an extremely disadvantageous position compared to the defending units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which are hidden in concrete cellars and have the ability to adjust artillery fire at a considerable distance even without the use of technical means.

      In total: another (there have been several dozen of them in 11 months) attempt to ram the long-term defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the Donetsk front with frontal strikes resulted only in local tactical successes with very serious losses. Unless - the activity of the Donetsk fighters and volunteers fighting here, undoubtedly, contributes to the success of the "Wagner" in the battle for Bakhmut, forcing the Armed Forces of Ukraine to spend tactical reserves and ammunition (which the Ukrainians also have "not gardens") to repel attacks in other areas.
      1. -1
        30 January 2023 13: 31
        Igor Strelkov:

        Front near Donetsk:

        The offensive in Marinka has been stopped at the moment. Despite all the loud statements that "just about" - to completely liberate the village before the end of January, it was not possible.................

        Chot has a feeling that, further down the text, he quietly rejoices at this. Everything is trying to prove that everyone around is fools, and he knew and warned that everything was bad. sad
        1. +9
          30 January 2023 13: 41
          Rejoices, not rejoices, a rhetorical question, this is a personal matter of Strelkov and his life. Here are the facts they state. .. Frighteningly similar to the truth
        2. +4
          30 January 2023 13: 49
          When the 12th month is in complete "amazement" from what is happening, from the extravaganza that is happening and you will not switch to such a tone.
      2. -1
        30 January 2023 14: 06
        This is what?
        To the fact that Strelkov until that moment financially supported volunteer detachments?
        Or just stick a brilliant analysis of the great commander somewhere?
      3. -2
        30 January 2023 14: 07
        Quote: huntsman650
        Igor Strelkov:

        Front in sofa area:
        Men's conversation. Strelkov has only one knight's move left and this is PMC Wagner.
        1. -3
          30 January 2023 16: 24
          Quote: Edik
          Strelkov has only one knight's move left and this is PMC Wagner.

          And he already refused. Which is not surprising.
          Strelkov - yesterday. "Che Guevara".
          PMC Wagner is the future of our army.
    4. -3
      30 January 2023 13: 21
      So and so volunteers the Ministry of Defense equipped. At least there were no questions about weapons. More in terms of technology and ammunition. So there the problem is just the same as in the entire Ministry of Defense itself. A set of VKPO for a year, when it wears out in three months. The norm is twenty cigarettes, no unloading, etc. And the armor from the "warrior" is good - class 4, helmets are also class 4. Another question is that in the process they already got hold of the trophy and unloading and weapons. The same RPK and AKMS. I don't understand why there is such a shortage.
    5. TIR
      +7
      30 January 2023 13: 24
      This should have been done yesterday. We always keep all decisions until the moment when we need to take reciprocal steps. Have you noticed how we work in the political field?
      1. +1
        30 January 2023 15: 47
        Have you noticed how we work in the political field?

        Not noticed, because there is nothing to notice.
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    7. +7
      30 January 2023 13: 33
      Not even a year has passed. The situation of the volunteers was the most difficult, without uniforms, without food. In the summer they were grazing, picking mushrooms. Then, I don't even know. The money, however, went to the card, and that's it. A maximum of two or three months could be sustained.
    8. +7
      30 January 2023 13: 42
      what nonsense? !!!
      do they even think when they carry such a blizzard on the air?
      and before that, the volunteers were not accountable detachments armed with pitchforks and scythes?!!!!
      I, in my naivety, believed that volunteers are those who came to the military registration and enlistment offices on their own without agendas, regardless of age of health, etc. and participates in the NWO as a COMPOSITION OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION
      1. -7
        30 January 2023 13: 56
        You just do not understand who is involved in this war. There are "volunteers" almost everywhere, from contract soldiers to simply armed units who privately came to the war.

        RF Armed Forces - Navy, Air Force, Army, Airborne Forces, BARS
        LDNR Armed Forces - everything is there: the prosecutor's office, the Ministry of Emergency Situations, personnel units, volunteers, conscripts, etc., etc.
        Police - mostly working for LBS
        FSB - mostly border guards
        The National Guard of the Russian Federation is also a hodgepodge of all
        Volunteer units - separate units that are not included in any structure at all, who came to war privately
        PMCs are criminal organizations according to the law of the Russian Federation, in principle, like armed volunteers
        1. +4
          30 January 2023 14: 02
          Quote from cold wind
          You just don't understand

          Quote from cold wind
          RF Armed Forces - Navy, Air Force, Army, Airborne Forces, BARS

          I just understand everything, what you write is called a mess and Makhnovshchina
          any, I repeat, any armed formation in the front line if it is not part of the structure of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation or the structure of the FSB - ILLEGAL ARMED FORMATION with all the ensuing consequences
          any consolidated detachments sent to the NVO zone from the Ministry of Internal Affairs should be part of the Armed Forces participating in the NMD to get allowances and become subordinate to the command of the NMD, I repeat, everything else is a mess and Makhnovshchina
          1. +1
            30 January 2023 14: 05
            Nothing much to add:
            Quote from cold wind
            When the 12th month is in complete "amazement" from what is happening, from the extravaganza that is happening and you will not switch to such a tone.
            1. 0
              30 January 2023 14: 15
              I have a feeling since the summer that there is not a war, but some kind of picnic with mothers
              it’s not even the Makhnovshchina of the civil war model, it’s even worse - swearing at the leaders of individual formations through the media, they took one settlement on the air and sounded completely different, etc.
              it gets really scary
              1. +1
                30 January 2023 14: 23
                For the state, this is the worst. Winning / losing a war depends on many factors and they have been hundreds of times. But when illegal armed formations appear on the territory of the country, the existence of which is directly opposite to the basic law, this erodes the legitimacy of the state, the law is just a scribble, the one who has a machine gun is right. Why then the state? People with machine guns will simply take power in a certain territory. This urgently needs to be stopped. Only the state can legally kill.
                1. -2
                  30 January 2023 14: 40
                  I hope that at the top they will understand this, otherwise another year 1918 will shine
    9. Egg
      0
      30 January 2023 13: 49
      Quote: huntsman650
      Deniska Pushilin shouted the loudest - and he is an expert precisely and only in lies, theft and cheating

      This phrase just crippled ... just like children in a sandbox, who calls each other louder.
      A decent person will not stoop to such a thing.
      And yes, just as predicted, Girkin moved out of the offer to join the Wagners, who would doubt it.
      1. +3
        30 January 2023 14: 58
        Quote: Telur
        This phrase is straight crippled

        Well, if we remember that at the dawn of Pushilin's political activity in the LPR and DPR, the unspoken nickname "Che Pushilin" was assigned to him (by analogy with Che Guevara, yes), then ...
        1. Egg
          0
          30 January 2023 16: 01
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          u, if you remember that at the dawn of Pushilin's political activities, the unspoken nickname "Che Pushilin" was assigned to him in the LPR and DPR (by analogy with Che Guevara, yes), then ...

          Yes, at least let them call it a pot ...
          but in public correspondence, publication, article, etc. need to know the measure.
        2. -1
          30 January 2023 23: 36
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          Well, if we remember that at the dawn of Pushilin's political activity in the LPR and DPR, the unspoken nickname "Che Pushilin" was assigned to him (by analogy with Che Guevara, yes), then ...

          It seems to me that the analogy in the nickname is somewhat different.
          But he, unlike those who came up with this nickname for him, was able to accumulate something ...
          1. 0
            1 February 2023 01: 19
            Analogies .....: blunt (to sharpen), rod (to blunt) .......... and do with it what you want ...... lol
    10. +10
      30 January 2023 13: 54
      And before that, the miracle of the order, what did the volunteers do in the war? They went to the Army voluntarily, through the draft board?! Or do we not understand something?
      1. +5
        30 January 2023 13: 58
        our military registration and enlistment office deployed volunteers, they directly stated that the country did not need them
        1. +1
          30 January 2023 17: 15
          Quote: fktrcfylh.h09
          our military registration and enlistment office deployed volunteers, they directly stated that the country did not need them

          Simplicity is worse than theft...
      2. 0
        30 January 2023 23: 41
        Quote: Zaurbek
        And before that, the miracle of the order, what did the volunteers do in the war? They went to the Army voluntarily, through the draft board?! Or do we not understand something?

        As far as I understand, military registration and enlistment offices had nothing to do with volunteers before the SVO. The military successes of 2014 were ensured by Wagner together with the locals.
    11. +3
      30 January 2023 13: 56
      after 11 months woke up, somehow I can’t even believe it

      will they really equip and arm?
      1. -1
        30 January 2023 14: 03
        And if anything to the cashier, compensate for the damage to the state at the price of a new one. There is no war, NWO.
    12. +2
      30 January 2023 14: 08
      The Committee for Defense Affairs of the State Duma of the Russian Federation and the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation should have prepared and legislated for a long time the status and full provision of volunteer detachments and coordination and control over their activities. Otherwise, it resembles local partisan detachments with pitchforks from the times of the Second World War, but even those were controlled by the Headquarters and managed, supplied by the Headquarters of the partisan movement.
      1. -2
        30 January 2023 14: 11
        Quote from ilpine
        Otherwise, it resembles local partisan detachments with pitchforks from the Second World War

        partisan detachments for the most part were subordinate to the central headquarters of the partisan movement (Formed by Decree of the State Defense Committee of the USSR No. GOKO-1837ss of May 30, 1942.)
        1. 0
          31 January 2023 11: 52
          I agree, and they were recorded as separate military units behind enemy lines by the names of the units ...... and not the mess that is happening now (
      2. +2
        30 January 2023 15: 24
        The key word is "should". And there .... like all the past 30 years.
    13. +6
      30 January 2023 14: 35
      A volunteer is not someone who volunteers to serve in the ranks of the RF Armed Forces? What does it mean to be "responsible"? Knowing the level of bureaucracy in the Ministry of Defense, I can say that these "volunteers" will spend 90% of the time writing reports about damage to the tank's tracks and other damage to the property of the Ministry of Defense.
      1. +5
        30 January 2023 15: 48
        So and so they write ... Everyone writes. And even military doctors in the HSV are now inundated with reports. First, they stand at the operating table for a shift, then the same amount of time for writing ... How many mobilized horrible, how many volunteers or personnel ... But do they need it, deal with this mura? But this is the norm of the plywood army. The senior is now on call in training. While the classes were not going, all the same, every action is in the location under the photo report. Construction - take pictures, in the dining room - take pictures, clean the snow - take pictures .... WHY?????
    14. +5
      30 January 2023 15: 04
      Reminds me of the movie Pirates of the Caribbean. When there was a council of pirates. When they met and discussed things. Skhodnyak.
      Apparently this is happening now in the NWO.
      Unity of command, which is the basis of the army, is not there.
      What is the people's militia of the Donetsk or Luhansk republics? These are subjects of the Russian Federation according to the current constitution. There should be only parts of the Russian armed forces, parts of the Russian Guard, subordinate to the command of the Russian armed forces, special detachments of the FSB with specific tasks, but coordinating their activities with the command of the NWO. The prosecutor's office, investigators, these are not military units. They have their own non-military tasks.
      All volunteers must be on the rights of those mobilized into the armed forces of Russia. A contract must be concluded with them, both with volunteers and with those mobilized.
      I remember the Ukrainian volunteer battalions...who then nevertheless decided to comb the staff.
      Here's what to do with the private armies of Prigozhin and Kadyrov, the question is extremely complicated. They, too, must unquestioningly carry out only the orders and tasks set by the command of the NWO.
      Otherwise, this is really the Makhnovshchina of a hundred years ago. Where does everyone want to fight there?
      And they sneeze at the army command and their orders, they will not listen to fools?
      War now is not a battle of heroes - singles.
      War is the coordinated collective action of various branches of the armed forces. Where there are no friends and strangers. For support. General artillery, general aviation, general reconnaissance, general communications, general targeting.
      And what is happening there now? What does the head of the General Staff, who is also the commander of the NWO, report to the commander in chief?
      1. +3
        30 January 2023 15: 53
        Do you write war? Has war been officially declared? Moreover, and apparently many are not in a hurry under the command of the General Staff .... Because more often from his command there are only losses at the exit ....
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          30 January 2023 19: 26
          In a war, in a military operation, during military operations, anarchy and freemen are not allowed.
          It has always been in the army, a higher commander sets a task that needs to be completed. How the lower commander will carry it out is his business. He sets goals and objectives for his subordinates. And they decide how to carry them out. This is the principle of unity of command.
          And if the commander gives orders, and the subordinates send him away, they say they have a different point of view and they will do what they want and how they want, then this is not an army, this is a separate rabble, separate gangs. And this means there is no efficiency and there are big losses.
    15. +1
      30 January 2023 17: 39
      I am tormented by vague doubts - the MO campaign wants us somewhere ...
    16. +1
      30 January 2023 20: 13
      The Ministry of Defense will take over the full support of volunteer detachments participating in hostilities in the zone of the special military operation. This is stated in the draft order being prepared, published on the portal of draft legal acts.

      Oh, well, not even a year has passed, although this is only a project, that is, intentions and not a fait accompli. In modern Russia, far from all the right projects are being implemented.
      Those. in providing the volunteers will be equated to the military personnel of the Russian army.

      Does this mean that until now they are nobody for MO and a burden?
    17. -1
      31 January 2023 11: 50
      That is, before that it was crowds of people with weapons who are not even now ranked among the Ministry of Defense? ........ They are not considered military units, without a standard from the president, and in general are they legally organized crime groups? request

      *Criminal legislation in the field of arms trafficking has left the chat* wassat

      *Legislation in the field of illegal armed groups has left the chat* wassat

      * MTO of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation somehow fusing weapons to volunteer battalions without fixing, numbers and document flow left the chat * wassat

      * Armed forces so that his leg woke up de facto a year later * soldier

      * The commissariat and military registration and enlistment offices that formed these "units" generally hid and sit quietly and silently * soldier

      * The command of the fronts to which the subordination "Semi-officially" issued this misunderstanding of an act of treason on a national scale *: -YYYYYYYYY AND WE WERE ORDERED wassat

      Guys this is a shame... request
    18. 0
      31 January 2023 14: 33
      and before they bought machine guns in the general store on a work loan?

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