“It is necessary to defeat the enemy on its territory”: the Polish general actually called for an offensive war against Russia

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“It is necessary to defeat the enemy on its territory”: the Polish general actually called for an offensive war against Russia

Thanks to the efforts of the West, pumping up the Kyiv regime weapons and finances, the conflict in Ukraine is protracted. Against this background, the Polish “hawks”, believing that the Russian Armed Forces are “bogged down” in the independent for a long time, hope to realize their geopolitical ambitions in an effort to revive the Commonwealth. At the same time, the aggressive essence of such rhetoric is covered up by the “Russian threat”, which allegedly hangs over the country.

Major General Leon Komornicki, who served on the General Staff in the 1990s, says there is a need to "revise military strategy." According to him, the Russian Armed Forces will deploy forces in advance when attacking Poland, they will try to take advantage of the effect of surprise and will seek to go deep into the country, along the way "destroying troops and infrastructure." Even if the "blitzkrieg" fails, the front will pass through Polish territory, "destroying the achievements of several generations."



Therefore, the general believes that "regardless of our (Polish) NATO membership and alliance with the United States," Poland must have armed forces capable of "preventing a surprise attack with deterrents."

Poland should have the ability to defeat strike groups of the RF Armed Forces deployed on the territory of Russia and the country from which Moscow will attack [meaning Belarus]

- considers the general.

He talks about the need to: strengthen air defense (purchase 8 Patriot air defense systems in addition to 8 already paid); purchases of long-range weapons; return to conscription, increase the size of the army to 300 thousand people, create reserves (1 million trained reserve soldiers) and second echelons.

In strategic terms, the general calls for focusing on "disabling Russia's air and ground strike group on its territory at a distance of up to 1000 km."

It is necessary to defeat the enemy on his territory. However, the adoption of this strategy will require the approval of the United States, our main ally, and NATO.

- indicates the general, in fact calling for an offensive war against Russia.

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    1. +45
      29 January 2023 17: 27
      The result of the impotence and indecision of our authorities.
      1. +27
        29 January 2023 17: 39
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        The result of the impotence and indecision of our authorities.

        But what is there to talk about Poland, if the feeble-minded officials from the Baltics are racing to impose sanctions against Russia and blockade everything that can cause at least some harm to the Russian economy.

        Domestic leaders and officials relaxed, and like cats swollen from a well-fed life, they even stopped catching mice, and the mice got so big that, having grown bolder, they sharpen knives and are ready to tear that cat, albeit in words, into small pieces.

        Time to wake up.
        1. +17
          29 January 2023 18: 07
          We have too much, cheers-patriotism, Shouts and squeals about the use of nuclear weapons and so on .. Calm down, cheers-patriots, wipe your saliva and calm your nerves. Firstly; Poles have an innate inferiority complex. Historically, they were humiliated - everyone. And Europe and Russia. Therefore, the country is so powerful that it cannot even be found on the map. Secondly, jingoistic patriotism is a stupid and narrow-minded thing. Before making any decision, you need to think about the consequences for your country. Thirdly, there is no need to get into other people's affairs - there is the General Staff and there is the army, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Let them think. In any case, they are smarter than some of the individuals on the VO website.
          1. +17
            29 January 2023 18: 12
            Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
            Thirdly, there is no need to get into other people's affairs - there is the General Staff and there is the army, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

            It's not someone else's business.
            After the start of mobilization, this became a common cause.
            And how the General Staff and the Foreign Ministry thinks, many already know.
            1. +2
              29 January 2023 19: 04
              Quote: Architect
              And how the General Staff and the Foreign Ministry thinks, many already know.

              There are suspicions that there is simply no one in our general staff to think.
              Well, our Foreign Ministry can only express concern. They were able to break off relations only after Lithuania demanded it. They could not impose sanctions against the Tribalts, they waited until they introduced them. There is no Foreign Ministry, there are solid ssykuny. Primakov is not on them.
              1. VB
                -3
                30 January 2023 17: 01
                They are not pussies, they are just agents of influence. Where does the Lavrov family live? And Primakov's family lives in Limassol, they have an apartment there.
          2. -3
            29 January 2023 18: 34
            Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
            Historically, they were humiliated - everyone. And Europe and Russia.

            When they sat in the Kremlin and ruled over Russia, it was apparently very humiliating ...
            They have a different complex - once they were the largest and most powerful state in Europe! It was precisely the fires of the Turks near Vienna that stopped. Without them - xs what Europe would be .. And then they fell in love with everything! And disappeared from the historical arena. An illustrative example of what happens when the country is ruled by oligarchs (tycoons) with a weak central government. Have access to the sea and not have a navy! wassat .
            1. -1
              29 January 2023 19: 07
              Quote from U_GOREC
              When they sat in the Kremlin and ruled over Russia, it was apparently very humiliating ...

              If you talk like that, then there was just no one in our Kremlin, and Genghis Khan and Lyakhi and Napoleon and even Hitler almost reached it.
              1. +3
                29 January 2023 20: 25
                Quote from: topol717
                If you talk like that, then there was just no one in our Kremlin, and Genghis Khan and Lyakhi and Napoleon and even Hitler almost reached it.

                Have you studied any alternative history? Which Genghis Khan? wassat
                1. -1
                  29 January 2023 22: 28
                  Quote from U_GOREC
                  Have you studied any alternative history?

                  Well, if for you the most famous leader of the Mongol Khanate was not in Moscow, or if for you the Tatar-Mongol yoke is an alternative history. I just have nothing to say here. As they say, you can't argue against the exam.
                  1. +3
                    29 January 2023 23: 48
                    Quote from: topol717
                    Well, if for you the most famous leader of the Mongol Khanate was not in Moscow

                    Chmngizkhan was in Moscow? wassat Are you serious? belay I understand that the Soviet high school passed you by! Because even a round Soviet troechnik could not carry such nonsense !!! But even for a modern USE student to carry such ... wassat wassat wassat
              2. +5
                29 January 2023 21: 44
                Quote from: topol717
                If you think like that, then there was just no one in our Kremlin, and Genghis Khan and Lyakhi and Napoleon and even Hitler almost reached.


                Genghis Khan was not in Rus'. The first was Batu Khan, his grandson. Well, the closest relative of the former in Rus' was Kulkan Khan (who commanded the tumen in the army of Batu), who was killed near Kolomna.
                1. -3
                  29 January 2023 22: 32
                  Yes, I don’t care which one of them was there, in 200 years there were more than a dozen of them. The fact is that for more than 200 years they have been milking Russia.
                  1. +3
                    29 January 2023 23: 52
                    Quote from: topol717
                    I do not care

                    Of course FIG! On history, knowledge, common sense ... It’s very easy to manage such mankurts, you can put any shit in your head - it will take root in your native environment ...
                    1. -4
                      29 January 2023 23: 58
                      Quote from U_GOREC
                      Of course FIG! On history, knowledge, common sense ... It’s very easy to manage such mankurts, you can put any shit in your head - it will take root in your native environment ...

                      I do not understand you.
                      There are 200 years of slavery/worship, but for some reason you don't want to admit it.
                      this will not change the story. But who was the first Chingiz or Batur I personally don’t care, especially since I didn’t live at that time and I’m NOT 100% SURE.
          3. +11
            29 January 2023 18: 53
            Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
            Thirdly, there is no need to get into other people's affairs - there is the General Staff and there is the army, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

            Well, purely into space ... If it were not for the nationwide assistance and volunteers, as representatives of the people, it is not yet known at what level the supply of everything necessary to our fighters would be. And they did everything without the Ministry of Defense and without the General Staff and without the Foreign Ministry. And how dare you? Not?
            1. -1
              30 January 2023 00: 57
              Quote: Clone
              И all they did it without the Ministry of Defense and without the General Staff and without the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

              Are you serious?
          4. +1
            29 January 2023 19: 14
            Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
            We have too much, cheers-patriotism, Shouts and squeals about the use of nuclear weapons and so on .. Calm down, cheers-patriots, wipe your saliva and calm your nerves. Firstly; Poles have an innate inferiority complex. Historically, they were humiliated - everyone. And Europe and Russia. Therefore, the country is so powerful that it cannot even be found on the map. Secondly, jingoistic patriotism is a stupid and narrow-minded thing. Before making any decision, you need to think about the consequences for your country. Thirdly, there is no need to get into other people's affairs - there is the General Staff and there is the army, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Let them think. In any case, they are smarter than some of the individuals on the VO website.

            Yes Yes! People like you just near Moscow will start whining about the traditions of the Victory and so on. The authority is completely lost, any riffraff can poke your fingers at your address and the address of Russia. And you endure, wipe off and endure again! Good luck!
          5. -1
            29 January 2023 19: 20
            There are empty heads in the General Staff just to chat, and not to think, the war has been going on for a year now, and there has been and is a supply from the west and they are bringing weapons, ammunition, mercenaries, railways, everything is in place, communications between divisions, as it was not, and there is no troops with new weapons, as they never were, they are fighting with Soviet weapons, as they drove coal, oil, metals and races to the Nazis, and our soldiers die because of this, but it’s purple for businessmen, the main bourgeois joy is profit, and it doesn’t matter what it is blood, the main thing is to sell to Western and Nazi partners, and the grass does not grow there, although our bodies should stop this, but they are most likely in the subject themselves, not war, but selling lives and conscience ...
            1. +1
              30 January 2023 00: 59
              Quote from GneSPb
              There are empty heads in the General Staff just to chat, and not to think, the war has been going on for a year now, and there has been and is a supply from the west and they are bringing weapons, ammunition, mercenaries, railways, everything is in place, communications between divisions, as it was not, and there is no troops with new weapons, as it was not and is not ... and our soldiers are dying because of this, but businessmen are purple

              9 days on the site brew, but already cool? bully
          6. 0
            29 January 2023 19: 45
            Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
            there is the General Staff and there is the army, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Let them think. In any case, they are smarter than some of the individuals on the VO website.

            Probably, this is from the series, "The Big Giraffe Knows Better To Him"?
            The Ministry of Foreign Affairs, with its "diplomacy", or rather, the lack of it, pumped everything that was possible. "Mr Concern" rules!!!
            The army, as the year of the war showed, we have for parades, like the "generals"!
            We already had 71% of the latest weapons in 21, according to the "parquet" minister, but in fact, as always, a bare ass. We cannot put on and equip 300000 mobilized without the help of volunteers.
            GSh, that is, but what's the point. Cover the area, let the tanks in the frontal. Gerasimov knows no other way! Tanker by education. Okay, at least now they realized that without an UAV, the road to nowhere.
            And there is also the government, and there is also the Guarantor! But that's in another series. hi
          7. +1
            30 January 2023 16: 47
            I will support. If you turn around at every yelp from the gateway, then your neck will hurt! But to remember where they barked from is a sacred duty. For it is impossible to forget anything - neither good nor evil, and after each reward according to his deeds!
            In fact: Poland is flawed and lives with unbearable complexes, grows apples, asks for money and bullies Germany. From the point of view of confrontation with us, spit! Nasty, but not fatal, and will certainly get his own!
        2. +2
          29 January 2023 18: 30
          Yes, to mumble or bleat, these are all the abilities of the leadership, because they have all the partners am
        3. -2
          29 January 2023 18: 57
          Quote: credo
          But what is there to talk about Poland, if the feeble-minded officials from the Baltics are competing to impose sanctions against Russia

          They rightly said - "officials are feeble-minded", and they will become smarter when their point is reduced. That's why they need to be scared so that they could not open their mouths out of fear. For this, you need to do and show this public, in real time, a real test of strategic nuclear forces and all the comments that will happen later if it falls as intended.
          Painfully with impunity, the mongrels began to squeal.
          1. +1
            30 January 2023 01: 08
            German acquaintances who are "GDR" people say that they have many acquaintances in Poland, and these acquaintances now support Russia in the war. Of course, this is not about officials.
        4. IVZ
          0
          29 January 2023 22: 49
          But what is there to talk about Poland, if the feeble-minded officials from the Baltics are racing to impose sanctions against Russia and blockade everything that can cause at least some harm to the Russian economy
          The problem is that the officials themselves are not in danger, in extreme cases they will wind up to a safe place with a tightly stuffed bag, and they don’t give a damn about their countries and their population from a low bell tower - they will fly faster. Burbock in Germany did not hesitate to talk about this, and it seems they are all like that.
      2. +3
        29 January 2023 17: 39
        withdraw from treaties on the limitation of strategic nuclear forces, conduct a test on Novaya Zemlya
        I have the impression that recently the commentators calling for the use of nuclear weapons have been "blown away". What is the use of nuclear weapons? Come to your senses!!!
        The impression that they forgot about other means of preventive action, and together. Either this is a CIA custom company, mi-6, tsipso. For some reason, it is they who act primarily through LOMs, the creation of public opinion, information. Today, everything is decided primarily on the information field, in the struggle for minds.
        1. +7
          29 January 2023 17: 46
          Not everything is decided by the information field. If everything was decided, the Maidan would have already occurred in the Russian Federation, and we would be going to war with China.
          But something like that is not even close to be seen, despite the wild heat of propaganda and multibillion-dollar investments.
        2. +5
          29 January 2023 17: 47
          Everyone understands that this is just PR. If they attack, then no NATO will help them! They are more likely to exclude Poland from the alliance
          1. +4
            29 January 2023 18: 12
            For example, NATO will help as well as Ukraine. And how will we respond?
            1. -3
              29 January 2023 19: 42
              And how will we respond?
              ... yes, just ... hire a couple of Klan Klansmen dressed in police uniforms so that they spank a couple of dozen blacks ... and that's it ... the hegemon of lies will not have time for his lackeys ... business then ... Sudoplatov would be at times would check such an operation
          2. 0
            30 January 2023 01: 12
            Quote: Argon
            Everyone understands that this is just PR. If they attack, then no NATO will help them! They are more likely to exclude Poland from the alliance

            When the S-300 rocket fell on the farmers, the topic slipped through that of the 3 conditions for acceptance, the Poles had not yet fulfilled one and they were pretending to be in NATO. The Hungarians became interested and even made a request, because they were accepted together. But this topic was quickly hushed up ...
        3. +1
          29 January 2023 18: 09
          The question is not "using nuclear weapons", but about a demonstration. Where, for example, did I call for the use of nuclear weapons against the enemy? We must remind the stubborn, who have lost all fear, what can happen to them if "enemies decide to go to war, we will arrange for them ..." As in a song. And we have already lost miserably about the "fight for the minds" .. Appointing characters who have entered the circulation as ambassadors to the former republics, working only on earning dough. And they completely forgot about the minds of our compatriots.
          1. 0
            29 January 2023 21: 40
            The question is not about the "use of nuclear weapons", but about the demonstration. Where, for example, did I call for the use of nuclear weapons against the enemy?
            Dear! You understood me perfectly about nuclear weapons. Even trials are a new round of escalation, a reason to increase defense spending, a cherry for PR technologists, psychologists for processing the masses in order to once again create an evil image of Russians. Do you understand what you called for? This is a call against the Russians. You must call to communicate. To the creation of resistance, to the conduct of the information war. To create a true image of Russians. Eeehhh..
            Russians were before the Anglo-Saxons and will be after. Russians were before the Germans, and will be after. Russians were before the Franks, and will be after.
        4. +2
          29 January 2023 20: 22
          Quote: nikon7717
          this is a CIA custom company, mi-6, cisso

          Judging by the reaction, tsipzdunam stepped on a sore callus smile
          1. +2
            29 January 2023 23: 12
            Judging by the reaction, tsipzdunam stepped on a sore callus
            It looks like it. Very friendly for the use of nuclear weapons tear and toss. In the USSR, everyone was still talking about the danger of nuclear weapons and the doctrine of a retaliatory strike and as a means of deterrence. And here is the pumping. There are few options. There are no brains (they do not represent real consequences), show-offs of couch analysts (there is also little mind), some of them, obviously under the influence of a company of Western psychologists, without realizing it, form their opinion by hitting pseudo "patriotism", such as you need to hit the table hard (such a divorce)
            1. 0
              30 January 2023 01: 18
              Quote: nikon7717
              It looks like it. Very friendly for the use of nuclear weapons tear and toss.

              Those who speak of ours are from weakness and fear.
              Tests do not pass in such simple ways.
              There is nothing to say about those who need to discredit us to the whole world.
              But the story with Iran and, allegedly, the transfer of 20 nuclear weapons to it is only flaring up.
              Reuters writes that:
              Iran is close to getting nuclear weapons.

              Today, by the way, two Iranian heavy transport workers arrived in Moscow.
              ...
              US Secretary of State Blinken: Any options are possible to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.
        5. -2
          29 January 2023 21: 49
          Did not understand you. Or you don't get the point. We have tactical nuclear weapons, we have low-yield nuclear power supplies. They are not only possible, they must be, you understand, must not be used. The targets are in the countries through which weapons are sent to Ukraine. Nuclear weapons are relatively clean, well, if places in Poland, Romania, France or Germany are dirty, we don't care. Hitting them is already a military necessity - and everyone, including the United States, will immediately shut up. Straightaway. What is not clear?
          1. 0
            30 January 2023 01: 20
            Quote from: buravlev
            Hitting them is already a military necessity - and everyone, including the United States, will immediately shut up. Straightaway. What is not clear?

            It is not clear what you will do if you do not shut up, but hit back.
            The VFU did not give up when the NWO began and are still fighting ...
      3. 0
        29 January 2023 17: 40
        These are partners, you don't understand. And we are not like that. And they do not believe that there is something to experience. By the way, it is quite reasonable.
      4. -2
        29 January 2023 17: 45
        These mutts probably don't know history. I hope they still have living witnesses of the Second World War. They should have at least asked them what it was like to attack Russia
        1. Aag
          +9
          29 January 2023 18: 30
          Quote: Argon
          These mutts probably don't know history. I hope they still have living witnesses of the Second World War. They should have at least asked them what it was like to attack Russia

          ... Enough already about History. You should not hide behind it - we did not write it, not the current generation, - the previous ones!
          ... Hence the dissatisfaction of some fellow citizens for stickers on cars "We can repeat!", for St. George's ribbons on rims of expensive cars of the German auto industry throughout the Russian Federation.
          And We (!) all this, under the strict supervision, blew (to put it mildly) ...
          And we continue! In TV, for the sake of curiosity, take a look: action movies, the beautiful life of pop music, action movies, the beautiful life, pop music - so in circles.
          News(?), - Of course!. ..Only the gap with the real increases. Talk show? In political ones, they can even change shoes in the format of one broadcast ...
          Type "DNA", and the like - with children is impossible!
          Literally this weekend ... V.S. Vysotsky's Memorial Day on the 1st (not a fan of the 1st, not a fan of V.S., - the age is not the same - but (!) A deep admirer, and I count that I , like millions of fellow citizens, at one time, He formed!), ... and on NTV, - about so "O. Buzova went hard and stubbornly towards her success ..."
          So who forms the agenda, educates the youth?
          ... I agree, - the sneakers carried me away from the topic of the article ...
          Although - how to look.)))
          hi
          1. +3
            29 January 2023 18: 58
            You all noticed correctly. By the way, there are fewer patriotic stickers on cars, when compared with last spring. What would it be for?
            1. +2
              29 January 2023 19: 56
              there are fewer patriotic stickers on cars compared to last spring.
              ... in your region it may be, but in Crimea it’s the other way around ... yes, and a joke ... about 20 years ago, a neighbor sold me his bike Salyut, cool layba ... so there was a Z sticker on the rear reflector from black electrical tape .. in principle, he didn’t ask, because he is a fan of zombies .. nevertheless, reflectors still feature this latina
      5. +3
        29 January 2023 17: 45
        It's time to expose the devils to the next section.
        And multiply their BC by zero.
        Let them enter our territory.
        Polish fertilizer and black soil will not hurt.
        How much ambition, however ... Stalin's pre-war chants ...
        History does not teach anything to Pshekov's cattle! am
      6. +2
        29 January 2023 17: 46
        All are spelled correctly. Try to insult Turkey or Erdogan personally and see what the reaction will be. Therefore, they are afraid to get involved with Turkey. Turkey knows how not only to threaten, but also to take revenge well. Turkey has been genocide of the Kurds for many years and everyone in Europe has stuck their tongues in one place, because they are afraid to blather. For what concerns Russia, here you can publicly, under the general cackle, wipe your feet on it. Even among all sorts of freaks there is a competition - who will spit Russia more strongly. And our commander-in-chief is an ordinary weakling who can only talk with his tongue, but at the same time is completely harmless.
        1. +7
          29 January 2023 18: 09
          And what will Turkey's reaction be? If you offend her? Here recently the Koran was publicly burned. Iii ... They tore the flag into rags, they did not let him into NATO. Yes, Sweden abused half the world angry
          Where is Erdogan's reaction?
          Why are you giving us soap operas here?
          Now, if ...
          Yes, nothing here. swallowed and everything
          And the Kurds are generally genocide everywhere. I don’t know what they did, but several countries deserve this fate, including Sweden angry
        2. +5
          29 January 2023 18: 11
          Well, they burned the Koran in Sweden, defiantly spit in Erdogash, so what? Shibko who cares? Europe does not nightmare Turks because the Turks are their own for them since the Russian-Turkish wars
        3. +7
          29 January 2023 18: 15
          The Turks (and Erdogan personally) were insulted, and more than once - you can recall the German caricatures of the Sultan :) The Kurds feel great in the same Sweden, which is clearly visible right now. You just need to be able to think and understand that combat pensioners are the same everywhere - here or in Poland, it doesn't matter. To take his words as an official point of view is not very smart. Well, yes, even this can do something in terms of influencing public opinion :)
          1. +4
            29 January 2023 18: 27
            Major General Leon Komornicki, who worked in the General Staff in the 1990s, declares the need to "revise military strategy" ... to defeat the enemy on his territory ...

            Hey buddy Leon winked this is for you first to our VO website, for an internship, for a year or two, otherwise your conclusions about the victory over Russia are already two times higher than Sun Tzu's treatise laughing
        4. +1
          29 January 2023 18: 21
          Quote: epicurean
          as for Russia, here you can publicly, under the general cackle, wipe your feet on it. Even among all sorts of freaks there is a competition - who will spit Russia more strongly. And our commander in chief is an ordinary weakling who can only talk his tongue, but at the same time is completely harmless

          Damn it ... there have been incubators ...

          Septic_2, septic_3, "e-3.14-Kureets" is some other ... terrible belay laughing
        5. +4
          29 January 2023 18: 30
          Quote: epicurean
          And our commander-in-chief is an ordinary weakling who can only talk with his tongue, but at the same time is completely harmless.

          Ours, in comparison with Western talkers, is generally silent.
      7. -1
        29 January 2023 18: 28
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        conduct a test on Novaya Zemlya. In order to remind

        Then on Svalbard laughing
        1. +4
          29 January 2023 19: 31
          Quote from U_GOREC
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          conduct a test on Novaya Zemlya. In order to remind

          Then on Svalbard laughing

          Yumar? There, in general, our miners, if what ....
          1. -1
            29 January 2023 19: 58
            And the Arctic brigade looks in there. Here one from the battlefield gave an interview, let it slip. In his zone he speaks badly. No snow. No skiing, no sleds, no dog sleds. Crushed hard. But it's warm
      8. -2
        29 January 2023 20: 52
        .... to conduct a test on New Earth. In order to remind

        Enough already to litter their own territories. It's time to test "Poseidon" somewhere on the coast of Poland. So to speak, in conditions close to combat. And judging by the statement of the Poles, they won’t particularly object, they really strive for this.
      9. fiv
        -1
        29 January 2023 21: 44
        Why torture Novaya Zemlya again to test nuclear weapons? There are great places in Poland
    2. +3
      29 January 2023 17: 28
      It is necessary to defeat the enemy on his territory
      I decided to check for myself what a zone of radioactive contamination is? and many of his compatriots want this for their country?
      1. +3
        29 January 2023 18: 33
        Quote: _Ugene_
        It is necessary to defeat the enemy on his territory
        I decided to check for myself what a zone of radioactive contamination is? and many of his compatriots want this for their country?

        There are a dime a dozen conscripts against Russia. Now, if he said this from Artemovsk ... winked So no, immediately "I, the patient, I have a release ..."
    3. +2
      29 January 2023 17: 32
      The moment is lost, sir voenpshek! Now the Russian Army has basically taken up its mind!
      1. 0
        29 January 2023 17: 38
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        Now the Russian Army has basically taken up its mind!


        To take on the mind is very insufficient. We also need the most modern weapons and especially accurate weapons. There is trouble with this in the Russian army, although everything was said about this back in the 2008 war of the year and come with oath assurances that Russia will rearm with the most ultra-modern weapons.
        1. +2
          29 January 2023 17: 47
          Quote: epicurean
          To take on the mind is very insufficient. We also need the most modern weapons and especially accurate weapons.

          When there is no mind - the rest is just useless show-off.
    4. -7
      29 January 2023 17: 33
      I can only say for sure: NATO will never agree to a ground operation on Russian territory. They can shoot rockets, well, send their troopers to capture Moscow - definitely not. In any country in Europe, three corpses of soldiers from the country they occupy are enough, as soon as a huge wave of protest rises inside their country. In Europe and the USA, it doesn’t matter how many Ukrainian soldiers die, but they will never sacrifice their soldiers for the sake of occupying another country. Even now, the Poles say, a rather strong migration of young people to other countries has begun in their country because of the fear that Poland will fight with Russia.
      1. +8
        29 January 2023 17: 37
        I can only say for sure: NATO will never agree to a ground operation on Russian territory.
        they are not going to fight for them, the Papuans are fighting for them, for example, now the Ukrainians, it will be necessary, others will fight, the process is debugged
        1. +8
          29 January 2023 17: 44
          While green papers are in use, half of the world will be hired to fight. And there are quite a few who want to. How many of them were threshed in Chechnya, Syria. New ones are growing up.
        2. old
          +3
          29 January 2023 18: 04
          it will be necessary, others will fight, the process is debugged

          The Poles will.
        3. 0
          29 January 2023 22: 17
          Quote: _Ugene_
          I can only say for sure: NATO will never agree to a ground operation on Russian territory.
          they are not going to fight for them, the Papuans are fighting for them, for example, now the Ukrainians, it will be necessary, others will fight, the process is debugged


          You forget who is in charge of NATO. For them, the Poles and other Europeans are the same Papuans as the Ukrainians.
      2. +4
        29 January 2023 17: 37
        Yes, you still have to look ... Well, the Poles, the British, the out-of-states have hooted. What is the result? I'm talking about public opinion. And you can always format it. Well, like in France. us seriously..
        1. +2
          29 January 2023 17: 43
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          Yes, you still have to look ... Well, the Poles, the British, the out-of-states have hooted. What is the result? I'm talking about public opinion. And you can always format it. Well, like in France. us seriously..

          This is the most important thing. They no longer take us seriously.
          And we are to blame for letting this happen.
      3. +9
        29 January 2023 17: 38
        They say that out of 4 divisions of the ground forces of Poland, one has already been laid down in Ukraine. Moreover, they refer to the fact that for some reason "volunteers" are buried in military cemeteries. But it is not exactly. But what is for sure is the Romanian and Polish speech that sounds on the air, and more often than Ukrainian. This is what my comrades from the front told me.
        1. -1
          29 January 2023 20: 30
          Quote: Beregovyhok_1
          But what is for sure is the Romanian and Polish speech that sounds on the air, and more often than Ukrainian. This is what my comrades from the front told me.

          And here, one grandmother, at the entrance, told me that there are more Magyar language there. So that's exactly what!
      4. +2
        29 January 2023 18: 37
        Quote: epicurean
        In Europe and the USA, it doesn’t matter how many Ukrainian soldiers die, but they will never sacrifice their soldiers for the sake of occupying another country.

        Where, then, in the United States 16 million (!!!) veterans of military operations???
        But, for example, according to the report of the US Congressional Research Service, the losses of the US Armed Forces over the period 2006-18 years amounted to 15861 people. Is it a lot or a little?
      5. +3
        29 January 2023 19: 40
        Quote: epicurean
        but they will never sacrifice their soldiers for the sake of occupying another country.

        Yes you shooo!!!! and this whose carrion???
        "The US Army suffered the greatest losses in Iraq, where 4550 American military personnel. In Afghanistan, the losses were almost two times less - 2401 people. "
        And whose is it?
        "losses NATO troops amounted to at least 1144 soldiers killed, follows from the latest American report of the special inspector for the reconstruction of Afghanistan "
        1. 0
          30 January 2023 14: 38
          Is this a loss for a country with a population of 300+ million people? they have 40+ thousand people per year alone in road accidents
          in Iraq for 8 years 4 thousand, this is 500 people a year, and 40 thousand die on the roads
    5. 0
      29 January 2023 17: 40
      Poland wants to take a risk? Well, go ahead with the song. Poland is already gone.
    6. +1
      29 January 2023 17: 48
      The West has completely gone mad; hatred of the Russians is in their blood. Fear, despise, hate, envy.
    7. -1
      29 January 2023 17: 55
      This is the result of the stupid and toothless work of our Foreign Ministry over the past decades. Russia is neither feared nor respected.
      It would be nice to send all those involved in such a state of affairs to hard labor for 15 years, then those who come to replace them will be reluctant to sit their pants in their offices and bend their fingers for nothing.
    8. +3
      29 January 2023 18: 03
      Dementia is scary if the general is acting idiot, but the old firewood can say any harm and the media should not bring them, so as not to disgrace themselves in the first place.
    9. +8
      29 January 2023 18: 05
      We ourselves have behaved in such a way all these years that the Poles have begun to wipe their feet about us now.
      They repented for Katyn, for what the USSR / Russia had nothing to do with and had no guilt.

      Surely there is truth in the Lubyanka archives. Or copies of the truth that Polish officers
      in the forests near Smolensk they were shot by the Germans in the autumn of 1941.

      This truth must be immediately obtained, put on the world's review. And take off
      The USSR / Russia is fully responsible for what we are not involved in in any way.

      And let the Poles squabble with the Germans about the size of reparations from Germany now for Katyn.
      Evil eats evil. And they will remember less about Ukraine.
      1. Alf
        -3
        29 January 2023 20: 25
        Quote: Osipov9391
        This truth must be immediately obtained, put on the world's review. And take off
        USSR/Russia all responsibility

        What for ? SAM has already bowed to the unfortunate Poles, so he will appear before us ... the electorate wrong? You can not do it this way...
    10. +2
      29 January 2023 18: 09
      Another ex-ex-ex offers to go and kill his country and take the rest with him. Grandpa at 75, you should think, no matter how the heart grabs somewhere.
    11. +2
      29 January 2023 18: 11
      Did the general work in the General Staff in the 90s?
      Now +30 years to that age.
      And the general is probably over 70? And not a general already, but retired?
      Why shove the opinion of a pensioner in the VO news, even though he served in the General Staff in the 90s, like super news?
    12. +1
      29 January 2023 18: 14
      It's time for us to start our own site like "peacemaker", where to record Russophobes from the Western world. And put the "Beginner" formula on the main page :))
    13. +3
      29 January 2023 18: 19
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      Thirdly, there is no need to get into other people's affairs - there is the General Staff and there is the army, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Let them think


      That is, if they can think. And there are big doubts about this. Soon the anniversary of the operation, for a minute. Conclusions can be drawn.
      Again, there is no need to rush the mind to Zakharova and poop on the Internet.

      don't pry into other people's business


      Well, yes. One to speak on TV and cut the loot, beards again, and the other to bury relatives and friends. To each his own.
    14. ASM
      0
      29 January 2023 18: 21
      And this general will go on the attack, or, as in a joke, "smart to smart, and me to taba."
    15. 0
      29 January 2023 18: 24
      Adequate military. Only a blockhead can call to defeat the enemy only after he has reached your capital.
    16. +1
      29 January 2023 18: 29
      "Here's four tankmen and a dog for you." They were, are, and will be bad.
    17. +3
      29 January 2023 18: 36
      As in O'Henry's stories, the bottom line is in the last paragraph: "However, the adoption of this strategy will require the approval of the United States, our main ally, and NATO." That is - in simple terms: we ourselves (Poles) ss..m attack Russia. But if NATO and the USA start, we will catch up ... to the division.
    18. +2
      29 January 2023 18: 37
      According to him, the Russian Armed Forces will deploy forces in advance during an attack on Poland, they will try to take advantage of the effect of surprise

      It feels like the Poles, speaking of Russia attacking them, are begging Russia to attack Poland. Well, any politician - the former (well, the same Walesa) - is modern (like Marovetsky, Duda) and the Polish generals, one and all, yell with one voice - "Russia, attack us!"
    19. +1
      29 January 2023 18: 38
      Barks, and looks back at the owner.
      He can tell the owner that in any scenario of the conflict in Ukraine, the States will receive their share of nuclear warheads and they will not be able to sit out.
    20. +1
      29 January 2023 18: 44
      "It is necessary to defeat the enemy on his territory":
      Good advice, I agree. This is how it should be done with the Polish and other army ....
      1. Alf
        -1
        29 January 2023 20: 27
        Quote: wandlitz
        "It is necessary to defeat the enemy on his territory":
        Good advice, I agree. This is how it should be done with the Polish and other army ....

        Good advice, much needed. But there is a "problem" - the army of the Central Europeans has not been able to defeat for a year now ...
    21. +1
      29 January 2023 18: 44
      They are no longer afraid of Russia, there were no such statements before, this is all because of the NWO, which is going according to plan according to the statements of the country's leadership, and what kind of plan has not yet been announced, they believed that they could defeat us on the battlefield with conventional weapons, we We have not been able to release poor Marinka and Bakhmut for many months now. Seeing all this from the side, the NATO generals became bold, we ourselves are to blame, or rather the country's leadership, and the worst thing is that no one was punished for 11 months for miscalculations and mistakes, everyone is sitting in their places, no one even thinks to write on their own, to admit that they failed . Things are moving towards a more serious conflict, towards a larger one, you shouldn’t really hope for the SNF either, there’s no need to even touch the enemy’s leadership, we are not ready as usual, and no matter what they sing on federal channels about unity, there is no it either, there is a war, and the daughter of the Minister of Defense gets high in Dubai. There will be no patriotic war with such power when the people and the government are together
      1. -3
        29 January 2023 19: 17
        . and the daughter of the Minister of Defense gets high in Dubai.

        And where do we hang out? winked
        Can we take a look at ourselves? winked
        1. 0
          30 January 2023 19: 57
          What are you looking at? Get high wherever you want. Though with the daughter of the Minister of Defense. We don't mobilize girls.
    22. +1
      29 January 2023 18: 45
      Major General Leon Komornicki, who worked in the General Staff in the 1990s


      Date and place of birth: April 26, 1947 (age 75), Wolbromek, Poland
      Education: Military Academy of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the USSR. K. E. Voroshilova (1981–1984)...
      Here's the bastard. The Warsaw Pact must also be remembered.
      1. Alf
        +2
        29 January 2023 20: 29
        Quote: sergo1914
        Here's the bastard. The Warsaw Pact must also be remembered.

        So what ? Even then they kept a fig in their pocket on the USSR ... It was not for nothing that our military said that of the entire police department, our only true ally was only NVA DDR.
    23. +2
      29 January 2023 19: 00
      Right here is the best student and quote book of Adolf Aloizovich))) it remains only for him to study his biography in more detail))
    24. +2
      29 January 2023 19: 03
      It is necessary to defeat the enemy on his territory

      Under such a heading, it could well have come out about the need to conduct an NWO on the territory of Poland ...

      There are more competent people for such decisions (the military-political leadership of the country), but the Poles must understand that there will definitely not be any “surgical methods” and “brotherly people” like in Ukraine.

      Once again, I am not calling for anything (the draft has not grown), but even NATO membership is not a panacea. Yes, I don’t really want to check it, but specifically Poland was already “protected” by the collective West in 1939. Then, too, everyone kicked in the chest with their heels, how they would defend themselves, but in the end they didn’t do anything, while the German military machine was skating through Poland . The passivity of the collective West at that time went down in history as the Strange War.
      1. Alf
        +1
        29 January 2023 20: 30
        Quote: Enverych
        There are more competent people for such decisions (military-political leadership of the country)

        COMPETENT??? Three times Ha ! We have been seeing this "competence" for a year now.
    25. +1
      29 January 2023 19: 04
      These geeks have been asking for a Yao strike for a long time.
    26. +1
      29 January 2023 19: 13
      Da hat er doch eigentlich recht!

      Also lasst uns Warschau endlich auf polnischem Boden ausrdadieren...!!


      Offensichtlich sucht man in Moscow nach einem Weg, dem Westen
      die nukleare Abschreckung einmal ganz neu in "Natura" und sehr
      real und unmissverständlich spürbar vor Augen zu führen...!

      https://de.rt.com/meinung/161033-nukleare-abschreckung-in-russland-sucht-wege/

      Ich schlage vor, Ramstein und Berlin zu vernichten und damit gleich zwei Fliegen mit einer Klappe zu schlagen:

      Wir Deutschen wären die offenkundig geistesgestörten, Wahnsinnigen los,
      die uns mit Hurra in den nächsten Weltkriegs-Abgrund stürzen wollen und
      auch die USA bekommen endlich einen Warnschuss vor den Bug...!!
      US-Stützpunkte in Italien können von mir aus auch sehr gerne
      "dabei sein"...!!
      DANN werden wir ja sehen, ob den Herrschaften in Warschau,
      Washington, London and Paris die Gelüste auf weitere
      Waffenlieferungen und Provokationen Russlands nicht endlich im
      Halse ihrer großmäuligen Fressen stecken bleiben...!!!?!

      Es heißt sowieso ab sofort ohne jeden Zweifel "Entweder oder..." und
      ich glaube, der Rest-Werte-Westen wird es sich zweimal überlegen,
      mit Russland ein "atomares Tänzchen" zu wagen...! so what?
    27. 0
      29 January 2023 20: 37
      Actually, start. Then there will be no need to remember Article 5 and dig where you need to.
    28. 0
      29 January 2023 21: 18
      One Sarmat in Warsaw - and kirdyk to all your offensive plans.
    29. 0
      29 January 2023 21: 23
      Against this background, the Polish “hawks”, believing that the Russian Armed Forces are “bogged down” in the independent for a long time, hope to realize their geopolitical ambitions in an effort to revive the Commonwealth. At the same time, the aggressive essence of such rhetoric is covered up by the “Russian threat”, which allegedly hangs over the country.

      let them plan and spit with envy, but I think that without the support of amers they won’t stick their nose in ...
    30. 0
      29 January 2023 21: 27
      Quote: 1erWahrheitsMinister_1984
      Da hat er doch eigentlich recht!

      Also lasst uns Warschau endlich auf polnischem Boden ausrdadieren...!!


      Offensichtlich sucht man in Moscow nach einem Weg, dem Westen
      die nukleare Abschreckung einmal ganz neu in "Natura" und sehr
      real und unmissverständlich spürbar vor Augen zu führen...!

      https://de.rt.com/meinung/161033-nukleare-abschreckung-in-russland-sucht-wege/

      Ich schlage vor, Ramstein und Berlin zu vernichten und damit gleich zwei Fliegen mit einer Klappe zu schlagen:

      Wir Deutschen wären die offenkundig geistesgestörten, Wahnsinnigen los,
      die uns mit Hurra in den nächsten Weltkriegs-Abgrund stürzen wollen und
      auch die USA bekommen endlich einen Warnschuss vor den Bug...!!
      US-Stützpunkte in Italien können von mir aus auch sehr gerne
      "dabei sein"...!!
      DANN werden wir ja sehen, ob den Herrschaften in Warschau,
      Washington, London and Paris die Gelüste auf weitere
      Waffenlieferungen und Provokationen Russlands nicht endlich im
      Halse ihrer großmäuligen Fressen stecken bleiben...!!!?!

      Es heißt sowieso ab sofort ohne jeden Zweifel "Entweder oder..." und
      ich glaube, der Rest-Werte-Westen wird es sich zweimal überlegen,
      mit Russland ein "atomares Tänzchen" zu wagen...! so what?

      don’t take a chance, the Germans are afraid for their own skin ....
    31. 0
      30 January 2023 00: 22
      To paraphrase Ranevskaya: some fools are such generals! And not only them.
    32. -1
      30 January 2023 01: 53
      Quote: Alex777
      Quote from GneSPb
      There are empty heads in the General Staff just to chat, and not to think, the war has been going on for a year now, and there has been and is a supply from the west and they are bringing weapons, ammunition, mercenaries, railways, everything is in place, communications between divisions, as it was not, and there is no troops with new weapons, as it was not and is not ... and our soldiers are dying because of this, but businessmen are purple

      9 days on the site brew, but already cool? bully

      Yes, here such lice larvae can already be scraped together for a battalion. Dumb, however, they write without a twinkle. The only task is to pour feces on the army leadership
    33. 0
      30 January 2023 04: 57
      Quote: credo
      Quote from: dmi.pris1
      The result of the impotence and indecision of our authorities.

      But what is there to talk about Poland, if the feeble-minded officials from the Baltics are racing to impose sanctions against Russia and blockade everything that can cause at least some harm to the Russian economy.

      Domestic leaders and officials relaxed, and like cats swollen from a well-fed life, they even stopped catching mice, and the mice got so big that, having grown bolder, they sharpen knives and are ready to tear that cat, albeit in words, into small pieces.

      Time to wake up.

      Precisely noticed! drinks
    34. 0
      30 January 2023 06: 08
      The Poles are the same meat for penguins as the Ukrainians. Therefore, they carry all sorts of crap while they are covered.
    35. 0
      30 January 2023 08: 46
      Do not even doubt that you will be next, following the Ukrainians. The owner has changed you!!!
    36. 0
      30 January 2023 09: 01
      are we called to wage war without taking prisoners?
    37. 0
      30 January 2023 19: 24
      Quote: nikon7717
      The impression that they forgot about other means of preventive action, and together. Either this is a CIA custom company, mi-6, tsipso.

      Medvedev and Volodin speak about the use of nuclear weapons, and not only them. Do you think they work for MI6?
    38. 0
      30 January 2023 19: 49
      And that they all become so belligerent when they go into reserve. Did you bring a few Psheks from Ukraine? Still want? Old fool.
    39. 0
      30 January 2023 21: 08
      The Polish leadership, for the sake of wanting to get rich, like Zelensky and his henchmen, are ready to put their people into a meat grinder, but the talking heads of Polish generals only broadcast the desires of their masters.

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