Ukrainian tankers arrived in the UK to prepare for the operation of Challenger 2 tanks

UK begins training for Ukrainian military exploitation tanks Challenger 2, a group of tankers from the Armed Forces of Ukraine arrived in the United Kingdom. This was announced by the British Ministry of Defense on its official website.

The aircraft of the Royal Air Force delivered to the territory of the UK the future Ukrainian crews of Challenger 2 tanks, which are expected to arrive in Ukraine at the end of March. The training will last one and a half to two months, if necessary, training can be extended. This information is also confirmed by Ukrainian Ambassador to the UK Vadym Prystaiko, who said that the Ukrainian military is "very motivated" and learns "very quickly."

I think that in a month and a half you can handle it. If necessary, training will continue as it was before.

- he added.

The British Ministry of Defense emphasizes that the transfer of Challenger 2 tanks and training of crews should help Ukraine prepare for further struggle with Russia. In total, Kyiv will receive 14 Challenger 2 tanks.

The UK will provide Ukraine with Challenger 2 tanks along with partner countries, demonstrating the strength of support for Ukraine at the international level

- added to the press service.

True, there is one problem with the transfer of tanks, the British are very afraid that the Russians will specifically start hunting for them in order to find out the secret of composite armor. In this regard, London puts forward a number of conditions for Kyiv, including not sending tanks to areas where a breakthrough in the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is possible, and also, if they are defeated, urgently evacuate them even under fire.

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[Orange Bigg]

I wonder if they burn better than Leopards? We’ll find out soon. Nobody really bought Challengers, unlike Leopards, Leclercs and Abrams. Why? Such a bad tank?

To date, only one Challenger 2 has been destroyed in combat, and that as a result of "friendly fire" in Iraq, when one tank mistakenly fired on another. Then, in 2003, two crew members were killed, the defeat occurred with armor-piercing high-explosive ammunition (HESH) in the stern and commander's hatch. Now the top military leadership of the British army is communicating with the Ukrainian command in order to obtain a guarantee that if the Challenger 2 tank, weighing 63 tons, is disabled, it will be promptly dragged (moved) to a safe place.
The UK has 227 Challenger 2 tanks, but only about 60 are operational, of which about 30 are in Estonia and 14 in Poland for transfer to Ukraine. The production of these tanks was carried out in 1994-2009. In 2021, 148 Challenger 2 units were announced to be upgraded at a cost of more than £1bn to Challenger 3 variant, with initial operational readiness expected in 2027 and full service by 2030.

https://topcor.ru/31574-the-sun-zapoluchiv-challenger-2-na-ukraine-rossijane-uznajut-ih-sekrety.html

Promptly drag a 63 ton burning colossus from the front line? Yes, they are kidding. How to evacuate such a thing?

Challenger-2 after the detonation of ammunition. The tank fell victim to "friendly fire" from another Challenger. Remarkably, two crew members managed to escape. Perhaps this is the merit of ammunition, divided into three components in the ammunition rack.

The first loss occurred on the night of March 24, 2003. Then the crew of a British tank from the Black Watch task force noticed a "bunker" towering over a road embankment and requested permission to fire. The role of the "bunker" was played by a tank from the same unit, the position of which the command for some reason did not know. The first shot from a distance of 3,7 kilometers was unsuccessful, but the second 120-mm HESH ammunition landed exactly on the commander's hatch. The ammunition of the affected vehicle detonated, which cost the tank and the lives of two crew members. Only the driver and gunner survived. In the spring of 2007, another Challenger-2 was disabled after being hit by an IED. The crew survived, but the driver was seriously injured.

https://dzen.ru/a/W-L62msfawCqHHnI

Regarding resistance to cumulative weapons, the results are twofold. So, one car withstood up to 14 hits from the RPG-7 and one Milan ATGM missile, escaping with damage to the sights. There are several other pieces of evidence pointing to dozens of unsuccessful hits from RPG-7s. In August 2007, a British tank encountered a Soviet RPG-29 Vampire grenade launcher. It is worth noting that the Iraqi Challengers underwent modernization, which included the installation of ROMOR dynamic protection units and anti-cumulative screens. This partly solved the problem with the weakened zone in the lower armor plate of the vehicle. However, the tandem ammunition was able to overcome the reactive armor and Dorchester armor blocks. When the tank climbed to the top, the grenade launcher was able to hit the lower armor plate of the hull. The driver and two other crew members were injured. Nevertheless, they managed to withdraw the car from the sector of fire.

[Bingo]

Quote from Orange Bigg

I wonder if they burn better than Leopards?

But how can I tell you ... Afghan scientists all the time get marijuana, and these ...

So it will be the same...

[credo]

... London put forward a number of conditions for Kyiv, including not sending tanks to areas where a breakthrough of the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is possible, and also, if they are defeated, urgently evacuate even under fire.

What scrupulous English. So can these challengers be immediately put in Lviv - it is still far from breaking through the front line and it will be quite possible to evacuate in the event of the arrival of the "Dagger" to Poland.

[_Ugene_]

The first shot from a distance of 3,7 kilometers was unsuccessful, but the second 120-mm HESH ammunition landed exactly on the commander's hatch.

and from what distance do our best tankers shoot in tank biathlon? Exactly 2 times less, and not always successfully

[hrych]

Quote: _Ugene_

from what distance do our best tankers shoot in tank biathlon?

Those. according to your understanding, the fight will take place in an open field with a perfectly flat surface? No, dear man, there will be ravines, there will be forests and buildings. And don't forget the size of the target...

[karabas-barabas]

Quote: hrych

And don't forget the size of the target...

In my opinion, this is a fake, the size of the T-72 has been greatly reduced.

[U_GOREC]

Quote: karabas-barabas

In my opinion, this is a fake, the size of the T-72 has been greatly reduced.

M1A1:
Body length, mm 7925
Length with a gun forward, mm 9828
Width, mm 3653
Height, mm 2376
T-72:
Body length, mm 6950
Length with a gun forward, mm 9530
Width, mm 3590
Height, mm 2230

[Bad_gr]

Quote: karabas-barabas

Quote: hrych

And don't forget the size of the target...

In my opinion, this is a fake, the size of the T-72 has been greatly reduced.

[karabas-barabas]

Below Sith (Paul) below gave a more believable picture, with the masses. It can be seen that the picture of Khrych is fake, and this button accordion has long been dismantled. The difference in the total length with the barrel is 50 cm, in the same picture it turns out almost 1 m, the height by eye is also not 10 cm, but all 30 cm. I'm not talking about the fact that the T-72 is the same size as the Abrams, but the width and height are almost the same, the Abrams is only longer in length, the same picture is overkill, which all the other photos below prove. And if you put the T-90M next to Arams, then it will be almost the same in width and height.

[Edik]

Quote: karabas-barabas

In my opinion, this is a fake, the size of the T-72 has been greatly reduced.

The Challenger 2 has a crew of four instead of three for the T-72 and weighs 20 tons more.

[Sith]

There is the same but with numbers for the sizes T-72 and Abrams

[karabas-barabas]

Quote from Sith

There is the same but with numbers for the sizes T-72 and Abrams

That's right, that in your picture the real dimensions, but on the one above the T-72 they made a little smaller. If someone does not see the difference, they can put on glasses and compare both pictures again.

[hrych]

Quote from Orange Bigg

I wonder if they burn better than Leopards?

The leopard is not equipped with dynamic protection; with the Challenger they do not have an automatic loader, i.e. have a fourth crew member: Joe, well, or Panas with Taras. Only these two factors in battle sentence. Those. not only a lower rate of fire, but also dependence on the state of the loader (hangover, shell shock, death). A hit without remote sensing - does it have a chance to survive in a lobeshnik, and even then it is doubtful. Although Leclerc has an automatic loader, it does not depend on the loader. And then decide who will burn better. By all accounts, the Leopard is more likely to die.

[karabas-barabas]

The loader allows you to shoot up to 15v / min from an ambush, or while moving on the road. In Leclerc, by the way, AZ was also brought to 15 / min. This requirement for performance characteristics was initially, since the rate of fire of the L7 was even higher. This does not mean that the tank will start shooting the entire ammo every 4 seconds, it only means that after the first shot, after 4 seconds, you can expect a few more aimed shots. AZ T-72, T-90 7-9 seconds in my opinion. The 4th crew member at the German, American and British school of tank building and in the future remain even with AZ, now they have an additional 30mm DBM, or they control UAVs. Judging by the fact that all new MBT projects have 130mm, they are all with AZ, but also with new features.

[hrych]

The problem of the human factor. Maybe 15 nimble Maksim will master it, but there is no brake-Panas. He will dislocate the handle, drop the projectile, fall into depression, carry out an act of defecation in zbroynie trousers, etc. And the machine gun works like a machine gun.

[karabas-barabas]

You don't respect members of the forum so much that you pull this fake video out here? Or did you yourself not figure out what was wrong with this video? I just found several videos right away where shells are sent even on the move within 4-6 seconds, although the shooting itself is not carried out at such a pace. This is not something from the field of OBS rumors, these are just facts known to everyone. Your right to think that dill is stupid and will not find a peppy loader, probably almost everyone will be able to pull a pudovka 20 times, what does it have to do with adrenaline in battle, so what's the problem with a projectile that you pull out at a convenient height and throw about 2 m further? And who knows, maybe the brake and dystrophic Panas will start throwing every 1 seconds when a projectile falls on his leg, not everything is so simple even here.

[hrych]

What do we carry? What disrespect? Did he fall off the Leclerc or fell off the Merkava? I repeat once again, the human factor is the cause of the fatal outcome. 90% in an extreme situation do not show miracles of strength and dexterity, but screw up in full. Adrenaline does not help to think logically, does not help to perform complex operations, but vice versa. An example is a bear. If you frighten him with an unexpected appearance from the leeward side, then an almost three hundred kilogram giant with huge fangs and claws will get dirty and give a goose, without looking back until he runs out of steam. Adrenaline hit him so hard. Yes, a defensive reaction, and suddenly an even scarier monster. The person behaves the same way. But adrenaline has another side effect - numbness. In nature, such individuals are immediately eaten and there are no offspring. And the chela then panic (normal), then numbness. And only a few adrenaline is used with benefit, they are taken to the special forces, to the pilots, to the astronauts. Unfortunately, there is no such category left for tank loaders. This is the most low-skilled character even in a tank. Usually a complete dumb ram.

Quote: karabas-barabas

stupid and will not find a peppy loader

Exactly. A person has very vulnerable joints and ligaments, a useless lower back, osteochondrosis, etc. War is a complete lack of sleep, irregular meals, poor medicine and chronic FATIGUE. Panas has diarrhea - noma. Therefore, I put on the automatic loader. The machine does not get tired, it is steel, not meat with bones and cartilage. The machine is not affected by adrenaline and melatonin. The automaton doesn't need to sleep, it doesn't need to defecate. He does not get sick and does not feel sick. He is not afraid, he is not shell-shocked, and he is not infected with Svidomo, i.e. mental retardation.

[karabas-barabas]

Quote: hrych

What do we carry? What disrespect?

Your video, where the alleged rate of fire of the AZ T-72 is compared with manual loading. This video is a scam, misleading people. At what I didn’t be rude to you, I didn’t tell you why you fell when you pull this fake out to the public.

Quote: hrych

Example - bear

Yes, of course, very interesting. I have been in the Irkutsk region every year since early childhood and I know all this. Who are you actually comparing a crap bear with? It seems to me that when a fighter feels like a bear, his commander should send him out of harm's way to the rear, followed by drug control.

Quote: hrych

Therefore, I put on the automatic loader. The machine does not get tired, it is steel, not meat with bones and cartilage.

Judging by the fact that you post all the time, all your knowledge is limited to a purely personal opinion based on such fake videos and pictures apparently. Nature, animals, or physiotherapy are closer to you, why should you think about tanks. You probably think the AZ T-72 works like a Rolex and never fails, for various reasons? And when the AZ fails, what do you think the loading process looks like? And there is such a thing as rate of fire, from shot to shot, and the MBT of NATO and their allies have approximately the same requirements, and the same 15v / m are guaranteed with the Leclerc AZ, Type 90 and K2, they have a revolving AZ with unitary shells. Since the 90s, all modern tanks are made with AZ, only revolver type, in order to observe 2 things, the rate of fire at the level of Leo2 and Abrams and safety for the crew, the BC remains isolated from the BO. The rate of fire of the T-72 is 7-8 per minute, and this is generally not bad, but as statistics show, similar to the T-64 to the T-90M, the placement of AZ and BC has become obsolete, moreover, since the first Iraqi one. Statistics say that when the armor of a tank is pierced with a kuma or crowbar in tanks of the T-72 type, the crew dies in more than 75%, in tanks with the Abrams layout less than 17%, for the simple reason, the lack of powder charges in the BO like the T-72. These powder charges are spaced around the entire perimeter of the BO and it’s hard to get into them if they are pierced by a kuma jet or scrap fragments, but they ignite in a split second and therefore the towers fly. HE shells in the AZ often do not have time to explode, gunpowder ignites so quickly. In fact, Russian tanks, it doesn’t matter whether the T-72 or T-90 were supposed to receive Burlak modernization after the Black Eagle project, this is just a tower with a drum AZ, more protected by armor and the crew is isolated from the BC, well, the DBM and PPK. But UVZ began to grow and dictate, and everything disappeared somewhere in a swing. You personally may like the AZ as it is in the T-72 and T-90, but unfortunately every time you see a video of a hit on a Russian tank from Ukraine, as smoke and fire go through the open hatch at the same second, then the likelihood is that crew killed or seriously injured very high. At the same time, Abrams' lineup showed itself well after hitting the BC. Even when it blows the entire back of the tower, it burns like a volcano, after a short time it burns out and the crew leaves the tank. In addition, usually the tank is restored after the demolition of the BC.

[hrych]

You honestly bored me. I'm talking about the human factor, for your adrenaline, you're talking about the breakdown of the AZ. Yes, there is nothing to break, a simple, reliable device. Your merkavs and abrams have a bunch of the same mechanical units that will break ahead. There is not only a super-charging athlete of international class, using adrenaline, like Gagarin, but a brilliant brain, like Klitschko, but also mechanics, electronics, etc. They burn, they burn, the pgocentric counted like a money changer in a shop. The cornets destroyed the pride of Tsakhal, thwarted the capture of a super gas field and Lebanon as a whole. This is where they say that the development of the heavy Merkava-5 was stopped and they thought in the Moscow Region, to develop a tank, install AZ, reduce weight ... like our tanks. And reduce the crew altogether to two people. Also, the much-vaunted Abrams were stuffed by Iraqi fighters and had to flee. Iraq became a protectorate of Iran. Kurds burned Turkish Leopards. But most importantly, neither the Lebanese Hezbollah fighters, nor the Iraqi partisans, nor the Kurds had attack aircraft, did not have tanks and large-caliber artillery, did not have Tornado-S, did not have cruise missiles, etc. Now your metal trash will rake off from all branches of the military, and not just from guys in sandals with grenade launchers.
For losses. Did your Abrams get up in the steppes of Ukraine, knocked out the caterpillar and, like, the crew survived? No, he didn’t survive, a standing one will be smashed to pieces with a large caliber. Those who get out will be shot with small arms. But a survivor in Lebanon got caught, got out of the Merkava, then envied the dead when Hezbollah fighters for Sabra and Shatila were presented to him. The tank died, the crew is finished in any case, it’s better right away, although in the LDNR they showed the commander who replaced 4 tanks, which speaks of the surviving crew members. Of course, you can leave the tanks and escape in time, like here
https://avia.pro/sites/default/files/images/novoe_video_0.mp4
And this Merkava apparently did not have enough interest. Wait, soon the Javelins will arrive to the Lebanese and Hamas, Bandera will definitely sell. Interest, interest, all the interest is counting, but Gannushka has already spilled the oil

[karabas-barabas]

Quote: hrych

You honestly bored me.

I just do not want to roll with you on rudeness and empty chatter, which you do in your posts. If earlier, before the war, tank fights generally ended - thank God that we will not find out how to fight against NATO tanks, since a war between the Russian Federation and NATO is impossible - then today, in my opinion, there is a big chance that some users of the Military Review may be at the front, and some they are already there and it’s better to know how it really is, what can be expected, and not rely on Panas’ dystrophy and button accordions about mountains of burning Leo2 and Abrams. The Armed Forces of Ukraine will receive hundreds of modern heavy armored personnel carriers and MBTs with thicker armor, with modern SLAs and optics, electronics, with more accurate guns and more powerful ammo for them, and they need to prepare for this, develop tactics based on known facts, and not the lyrical chatter of someone something very far from military technical subjects.

[hrych]

Do you want to intimidate with your prophecies? Will not work. Frightened. That's right, you don't know how it's going to end. And you don't know what will happen to you in the end. Because events will affect everyone and the unfortunate tanks will not play a role here. Of course, you hope that Russia will lose, but this will not happen and, as a last resort, we will be forced to use more effective means of destruction. Yes, even the EMP of a high-altitude nuclear explosion. On the territory of Ukraine, all radio-electronic equipment, all GOS, all electronic sights of precision guns and tanks will be irretrievably knocked out. Yes, everything, including smartphones and microwaves. As well as air defense systems. As a matter of fact, it will extinguish the satellite constellation. In general, everything that the West and its mongrels were famous for, i.e. overindulgence in electronic systems that would not survive a similar geomagnetic storm in 1859. Then, from electronics, there were only telegraphs, and they all broke down. What, what, but the Soviet weapons school relied on mechanics, and you are the only one in your Merkava and will remain a workable loader, but the rest of the systems will burn out. And with a false professor you will prove that Faraday cages will help you You see, my prophecy is more interesting. And our friend - Iran will receive modern fighters and air defense systems, and our friend - Israel will receive the best: Pugachev, Galkin, Slepakov, Nevzorov and Makarevich.

[your1970]

Quote: karabas-barabas

The loader allows you to shoot up to 15v / min from an ambush, or in motion on the road

Just try to lift 15 times a bag of cement (50 kg) up and down to the stomach .... in 1 minute ...
And also remember that IS had separate loading and a maximum of 3 rounds per minute ...
No, well, maybe, of course, their chargers are much faster - 5 times - than on ISs ...

[karabas-barabas]

Quote: your1970

Just try to lift 15 times a bag of cement (50kg)

50 kg?!)) Yes, and from the bottom to the stomach?)) Are you sure you know what you are writing about here? You better argue with the standards and requirements for NATO MBT, 15v / m with a loader, or Leclerc's drum AZ also gives up to 15v / min.

[Mint Gingerbread]

Of course they will be hunted. Moreover, absolutely all types of tanks entering the NWO zone will fall under the targets. Even a reward may be announced for the capture. About 5 million rubles for the capture and delivery of an unburned tank (abrams, leopard, challenger, leclerc), it would be quite nice

[Orange Bigg]

You can hit with a long-range Hermes. At least it’s a sin not to test him, if such an opportunity is provided.

We quote the Rostec statement at the Army 2020 forum:

It is stated that this novelty is equally effective both in the daytime and at night. With its help, you can destroy various armored vehicles, including main battle tanks, various fortifications, sea and air targets ... The missile, weighing 130 kg with a container, has a high-explosive fragmentation warhead weighing 30 kg. Its maximum flight speed is 1300 meters per second. A radio navigation system is used to enter the area where the destroyed objects are located. At the final stage of the flight, the principle of self-guidance operates. At the same time, reconnaissance and adjustment is carried out by an unmanned aerial vehicle, which is part of the complex .... Hermes elements are installed on three-axle KAMAZ off-road vehicles and have high mobility. .... Adopted for service, and already on the way to his finest hour.

https://pulse.mail.ru/article/v-rosteh-rasskazali-na-chto-sposoben-ptrk-germes-na-baze-armejskogo-kamaza-1320361726196764867-227188309895583382/

[U_GOREC]

Quote: Mint Gingerbread

About 5 million rubles for the capture and delivery of an unburned tank

Where does the figure come from?

[bayard]

Quote from U_GOREC

Where does the figure come from?

Okhlobystin announced on behalf of the Russian business (THE AUTHORIZED) that a bonus is being announced for each DESTROYED and CAPTURED "Abrams" or "Leo-2" of 10 million rubles.
FOR EVERY !
And this is not counting the bonus from the Moscow Region - for each tank 100 rubles.
So the guys now have MOTIVATION - they will look for it themselves.
And they will arrange a competition for righteous enrichment.
And this is good .
This is right .

But regarding the award for Challenger 2 and Leclerc, Russian business is still he did not decide .

[Ghost1]

You yourself don’t want to hunt for a tank for a reward and capture it, it’s not for you to play computer games.

[your1970]

Quote: Mint Gingerbread

Even a reward may be announced for the capture. About 5 million rubles for the capture and delivery of an unburned tank (abrams, leopard, challenger, leclerc), it would be quite nice

Already announced - 10 million for destruction ....

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Everything is very similar to the support of Kolchak by the Entente. If the situation worsens, they will sell dumb lads. At least the ragulki flew on an airplane and visited abroad. And before the NWO, they did not go further than their villages. No bad without good)

[U_GOREC]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

At least the ragulki flew on an airplane and visited abroad. And before the NWO, they did not go further than their villages.

And Ivans from near Ryazan, straight, traveled the whole world ... Why so much nationalist snobbery?

[Leader_Barmaleev]

The word Challenger has two well-established meanings - challenger and defiant. And here the question arises - this pitiful contender for becoming a pile of burnt scrap metal with a small amount of stew inside really claims at least some significant role in this strange war? How to say "cannon fodder" in relation to a tank?

[Orange Bigg]

It seems like the name of the tank is translated into Russian as a challenge, rivalry.

[Leader_Barmaleev]

A challenge is a challenge, respectively challenger is a challenger. Rivalry is rivalry. So "as you call the ship, so it will float" (c) Captain Vrungel

[karabas-barabas]

Quote: Leader_Barmaleev

whatever you call a ship, that's how it will sail

So there is a combat use in Afghanistan and Iraq, where he was in serious beatings without breaking through the armor and, in fact, no one really knows anything about "weak zones" and Chobham armor. Neither an ATGM nor a T72/90 projectile can accurately penetrate it in the face, and the Challenger 2 itself can, thanks to the SLA and BC, aim at sky-high 8 km for a tank with any kind of buckshot and kuma, and hit it with a sub-caliber with 5i and hit it in the forehead. Like Leo2 and Abrams, the Challenger has a powerful PPC and PN + other keen eyes for working at night for many kilometers. Well, they are few in general. I think it’s out of place to talk about duels of “inexperienced Ukrainians” against T-90s, etc., since we need to think about serious support for the Air Force at the front, which is still not there.

[know-it-two]

You want to say "Chrysanthemum-S" will not take the forehead of these tanks ...? It's more a question of the number of "Chrysanthemums" in the Russian troops ...

[Ghost1]

You write like that, it will break through with this or with this, but how to know where this tank will come out from is difficult to predict and what the anti-tank soldiers will have there.

[Edik]

Quote: karabas-barabas

Not an ATGM in his face

It depends on which ATGM will be used, there are no tanks that cannot be penetrated! And so it is a very serious vehicle and a formidable opponent for our vehicles.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

a formidable opponent for our machines.

... yeah .. with such specific loads on the ground, they sit where the saddle of the kosher Hans .. something like this

[blackGRAIL]

It is in the forehead - there is. These are actually all modern versions of MBT. Protection in this projection essentially demonstrates the pinnacle of the scientific, technical and industrial power of the country. And the combined protection manifests itself primarily against cumulative ammunition. And all ATGMs are cumulative.

[abc_alex]

Quote: karabas-barabas

The Challenger 2 can, thanks to the SLA and BC, aim at sky-high 8 km for a tank with any kind of buckshot and kuma, and hit it in the forehead with sub-caliber from 5i.

Two questions. How do you imagine the cone of a canister shot at a distance of 8 km?
And you know that even at sea, the range of the horizon is no more than 5 km? :)

I'll tell you a secret, any tank can throw a projectile at 8 km. With a projectile speed at the muzzle cut of 2 km / s, this is a trifling matter for a tank. The Soviet 2A46 also has a passport maximum range of an HE shell - 12 km.
But not a single tank on the planet can take aim over the horizon :) Even so brightly advertised to you Challenger. :)
The Israelis have experience in using tanks as self-propelled guns. Apparently, the shaves also tried the same thing.

[MSN]

The visible horizon from an object 2,5 m high is 6 km. And the visibility range from the same object to another object 2,5 m high is 12 km. And once we see, then we can shoot. beyond the visible horizon. Yes?

[Wedmak]

among which, do not send tanks to areas where a breakthrough of the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is possible, and also, if they are defeated, urgently evacuate them even under fire.

Why are they needed at all then?

[carpenter]

True, there is one problem with the transfer of tanks, the British are very afraid that the Russians will specifically start hunting for them

Any intelligence of the world is interested in someone else's, unfamiliar equipment and also specialists serving it. Especially if there are innovations, in this case - armor. The Russian military-industrial complex is already saying thank you.

[Fangaro]

Do not send Challengers to Ukraine, but leave them in the UK. Together with trained crews. Call the families of the crews, provide a residence permit.
After that, the crews of the tanks will be guarded more than a vigilant falcon.

[Rage66]

Another meat ... Mindless sheep

[ASM]

Yes, not tankers need to be sent there, but self-propelled gunners. A bang on a normal course cannot shoot, because there the loader hits everything in a row. And given that he also sent a cap to send - it's just something unimaginable. This machine with a rifled barrel can be like an expensive "Rapier" with crowbars in the ammunition load. No more.

[sergo1914]

stating that the Ukrainian military is "very motivated" and learning "very fast"

It's understandable. Having sold the tank to ours, they will become wealthy people.

[Viktor Sergeev]

And what is there specifically? Dill themselves will abandon them after breakdowns and destruction, take it and study it, but there is nothing so secret there.

[75 Sergey]

With their wishes, they only fueled interest.
Maybe we will allocate money, if the crew of Abrams, Challenger, Leopard and Leclerc surrender together with the car, then each of the crew will receive 1 lyama of their favorite Baku ones, a clean passport and freedom of movement .... well, as a bonus, a piece of fat and vodka?
Well, if the crew is smaller, then all the same, the calculation will be based on the full set, just everyone will get more.
Can our moneybags fork out?

[your1970]

Quote: 75Sergey

Can our moneybags fork out?

Already ... 10 million for a destroyed tank was announced

[Kerensky]

These, just a great chance - they will be "instructors". Those who have been unlearned from these for a week will go into battle.

[air wolf]

Really funny how many loaders have arrived, we can't decide that the swineherds can manage it?

[Alex242]

True, there is one problem with the transfer of tanks, the British are very afraid that the Russians will specifically start hunting for them in order to find out the secret of composite armor. In this regard, London puts forward a number of conditions for Kyiv, including not sending tanks to areas where a breakthrough in the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is possible, and also, if they are defeated, urgently evacuate them even under fire.

Let's see how they turn out....

[Alex242]

Quote: sergo1914

stating that the Ukrainian military is "very motivated" and learning "very fast"

It's understandable. Having sold the tank to ours, they will become wealthy people.

the price has already been set...

[boomerang.]

Now you need to protect these tankers as well as these Challenger-2 tanks, since no one else will be able to operate these tanks. And other tanks too.

[ASM]

Well, children are small, honestly. Naturally, any battlefield equipment will be incl. at the enemy. This can only be avoided by not driving the car to the front for a cannon shot.

[NikolayDS]

Well, children are small, honestly.

Well, how can I tell you. They just think that fighting the Russian Federation is like fighting Iraq, only it's still cold.