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Ex-ambassador of Ukraine Melnyk demanded that Germany deliver a HDW 212A class submarine to Kyiv

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Ex-ambassador of Ukraine Melnyk demanded that Germany deliver a HDW 212A class submarine to Kyiv

The former Ukrainian ambassador to Germany, Andriy Melnyk, who currently holds the position of one of Kuleba's deputies, proposed to "drive" Russia out of the Black Sea with the help of submarines that the West will supply to Kyiv. He published this "brilliant" proposal on his page in one of the social networks banned in Russia.


Melnik, who is distinguished by not entirely adequate behavior and statements, decided to try on the role of a "great strategist" and offered to clear the Black Sea of ​​the Russian presence. It should be "cleaned" by Western submarines with Ukrainian crews, preferably German ones, because they are "the best". In general, Melnik demanded that Germany transfer to Ukraine one of the submarines in service with the German Navy, especially since the Germans have six of them.

Germany produces one of the best submarines in the world - HDW - Class 212A. The Bundeswehr has six such submarines. Why not send one to Ukraine? This could push the Russian fleet out of the Black Sea

- he said.

It is worth noting that this is not the first statement of this kind, and not the last. The odious Ukrainian diplomat, who disappeared from public space for some time, reappeared after Germany decided to transfer tanks Leopard 2 from the presence of the Bundeswehr and permission for the re-export of armored vehicles by other countries. Melnyk didn’t like the fact that Europe somehow “weakly” reacts to the opportunity to help Ukraine and is in no hurry to supply tanks and other weapons to the Zelensky regime. He criticized NATO and demanded from Washington and Brussels the supply of fighter jets, including F-35s, ships and submarines.

Ukrainian diplomat believes that the West should provide for Ukraine weapons and fulfill all the requirements of Kyiv, since the Armed Forces of Ukraine "defend Europe." At the same time, Melnik is absolutely not interested in the problems of other countries and their statements about the impossibility of doing this.
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  1. Gory
    Gory 29 January 2023 12: 03
    +2
    Will they swim along the Dnieper in it? ..The Turks will not let you through the strait ..
    1. Repellent
      Repellent 29 January 2023 12: 09
      0
      Quote: Gory
      Will they swim along the Dnieper in it?

      Not. This is how it will be:

      Quote: (s)
      Submarine in the steppes of Ukraine
    2. Evgeny Ivanov_5
      Evgeny Ivanov_5 29 January 2023 12: 12
      +10
      If it is already Khokhlyatskaya, then they will let it through. Another thing is that a submarine is not even a plane. If only the Germans would give it away with the crew. It will take three years to train a coherent crew only so that they do not drown.
      1. poquello
        poquello 29 January 2023 12: 18
        +5
        Quote: Evgeny Ivanov_5
        If it is already Khokhlyatskaya, then they will let you through

        rights and TCP will show?
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 29 January 2023 19: 04
          0
          Quote: poquello
          Quote: Evgeny Ivanov_5
          If it is already Khokhlyatskaya, then they will let you through

          rights and TCP will show?

          We sewed on the chevrons. Now the chevrons are Velcro. He tore off the German ones, stuck the Ukrainian ones - here is the crew and the "Ukrainian". The same applies to "pilots" and all other "specialists".
      2. Myths
        Myths 29 January 2023 12: 46
        +5
        Since as soon as the Turks let her through, she will go to the bottom with the crew along with the Germans. The great ones that dug out the Black Sea, the seafarers did not see for many years what kind of submarine they were.
        They and F16 are waiting and praying for them, but who should fly them? Recently, what about their own: It became known about the elimination of another Ukrainian pilot, the commander of the aviation squadron of the 299th tactical aviation brigade of the Ukrainian Air Force, Major Daniil Murashko. The Su-25 attack aircraft under the control of Murashko was shot down by "friendly fire" on January 27 near Kramatorsk.
        1. Osipov9391
          Osipov9391 29 January 2023 13: 03
          -7
          Who has been flying the F-16 for at least a year now.
          Also with tanks. It’s just that no one transfers the equipment, I don’t understand where and don’t understand in whose hands.
        2. carpenter
          carpenter 29 January 2023 16: 17
          0
          Quote from Mitos
          Since as soon as the Turks let her through, she will go to the bottom with the crew along with the Germans.

          Here, here - the crew can only be from Germans, but by no means from persons of Ukrainian nationality.
      3. carpenter
        carpenter 29 January 2023 16: 23
        +3
        Quote: Evgeny Ivanov_5
        If it is already Khokhlyatskaya, then they will let it through. Another thing is that a submarine is not even a plane. If only the Germans would give it away with the crew.

        And so it all started beautifully:
        “Germany (ThyssenKrupp concern) produces one of the best HDW 212A class submarines in the world. The Bundeswehr has six such submarines. Why not send one to Ukraine? Then we will drive the Russian fleet out of the Black Sea.”,– Mr. Melnik wrote on Twitter, and does he really believe in it,
        although Ragulya, what to take from him.
    3. Vladimir Postnikov
      Vladimir Postnikov 29 January 2023 13: 03
      +3
      Quote: Gory
      The Turks will not let you through the strait ..

      What suddenly?
      1. Gory
        Gory 30 January 2023 11: 58
        0
        Ankara called Russia's special military operation in Ukraine a war, and in accordance with the provisions of the Montreux Convention, it has the right to block the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles for military courts, which it warned all interested countries about.
    4. YOUR
      YOUR 29 January 2023 13: 36
      0
      The boat is small, it can be dragged along the rivers. But this is so as a warm-up, how can you do it. The Germans gave tanks under great pressure, something more is in a row. Moreover, the submarine is no longer a defensive weapon, as they all call the transferred weapon.
      1. Alf
        Alf 29 January 2023 21: 26
        +1
        Quote: YOUR
        Submarine is no longer a defensive weapon

        Tanks, too...
    5. Eldorado
      Eldorado 29 January 2023 14: 56
      0
      Zelya decided to run to Argentina to see her.
    6. carpenter
      carpenter 29 January 2023 16: 13
      +2
      Quote: Gory
      Will they swim along the Dnieper in it? ..The Turks will not let you through the strait.

      The fact is that having a submarine does not mean that it is a combat unit. Everyone remembers very well the "composition of the submarine" of the Svidomites, which had one submarine Zaporizhia welded to the pier. For 30 years, the last of the Mohicans of the Svidomite submarine have retired, now there is not a single specialist, and the boat is not a Leopard or an F-16, the crew needs not only to be trained, but also to be taught in educational institutions (and where are these VMU and shmonki). Get a boat, you can talk about its readiness not earlier than in 5 years.
    7. Fizik13
      Fizik13 29 January 2023 21: 13
      0
      Quote: Gory
      Will they swim along the Dnieper in it? ..The Turks will not let you through the strait

      On conveyors through Poland will deliver. And Melnik will plow the boundless steppes of Ukraine on it
  2. Alex242
    Alex242 29 January 2023 12: 04
    +1
    Germany produces one of the best submarines in the world - HDW - Class 212A. The Bundeswehr has six such submarines. Why not send one to Ukraine? This could push the Russian fleet out of the Black Sea

    - he said.

    everyone needs something new
    1. Orange Bigg
      Orange Bigg 29 January 2023 12: 12
      +4
      That's right. The key word is demanded.
  3. Buyan
    Buyan 29 January 2023 12: 04
    +6
    And schnapps, sausages, and a million dollars laughing demand)
  4. carpenter
    carpenter 29 January 2023 12: 07
    +1
    The Ukrainian diplomat believes that the West should provide Ukraine with weapons and fulfill all the requirements of Kyiv, since the Armed Forces of Ukraine "defend Europe."

    At least Ukraine is only ruining Europe. Europe is now like a "walking girl, left without a dowry."
  5. polpot
    polpot 29 January 2023 12: 09
    +6
    “Give me a million, give me a million, give me a million! After that, the beggar stuck out his thick, unclean tongue and carried on complete nonsense.
  6. Bingo
    Bingo 29 January 2023 12: 09
    +5
    There is no life in the steppes of Ukraine without a submarine! Pisi: will they pull it through the Carpathians or on a grain carrier?
    1. Egeny
      Egeny 29 January 2023 12: 39
      +3
      Bravo, Ilya. And the iPhone starts to light up.)
      As for "Jellow Submarine", I would throw a dozen pluses if I had the opportunity.)
    2. Osipov9391
      Osipov9391 29 January 2023 13: 08
      -14
      So far, the Ukrainian skies are closed to our aircraft. In fact, they are already flying over the territory of Russia along the front line.
      As soon as the saturation of Ukraine with Patriot complexes and smaller ones from all over Europe and the USA begins, in fact, the path for aviation to the sky of Ukraine will be ordered.

      And this is based on the fact that for about six months they have not been able to suppress the old Soviet air defense systems of 40 years ago.
      It looks like the equipment of electronic intelligence and anti-radar missiles of our aircraft are hopelessly outdated because they are also Soviet.
      1. Repellent
        Repellent 29 January 2023 13: 28
        0
        Quote: Osipov9391
        As soon as the saturation of Ukraine with Patriot complexes begins

        Patriots were not given enough to "saturate", let fate at least cover Kuiv.

        Quote: Osipov9391
        for about six months they have not been able to suppress the old Soviet air defense systems 40 years ago

        I have to mention once again the stupidity of the local khokhlobots. Without a "backup" from NATO, because of a ribbon, these complexes would live for a day, a lot of two.

        Failed, Kostya request laughing
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 29 January 2023 12: 10
    +5
    "drive" Russia out of the Black Sea with the help of submarines, which the West will supply to Kyiv.
    And for this, even one German is enough for him. There are no more questions about what's wrong with their heads, because. apparently it is only to eat into it and periodically open your mouth to splash out the next portion of utter nonsense.
    Melnyk did not like that Europe reacted "weakly" to the opportunity to help Ukraine
    It remains for Europe to apologize to Melnik and promise to improve.
    1. Bingo
      Bingo 29 January 2023 12: 15
      +7
      Quote: rotmistr60
      There are no more questions about what's wrong with their heads, because. apparently it is only to eat into it and periodically open your mouth to splash out the next portion of utter nonsense.

      And they, apparently, did not come from a monkey, but from a worm ... Which end of the torso, waking up, turned out to be closer to the pillow today - we put on that hat, and on the opposite - bloomers. So in a peak situation, you can eat and talk at the same time
  8. Roma 1977
    Roma 1977 29 January 2023 12: 14
    +2
    A mill would be put for him. He is also a Miller with a capital letter, not a Submariner.
    1. Egeny
      Egeny 29 January 2023 12: 42
      +2
      He is no longer a miller, and not a submariner, and not even a diplomat - they took away the feeder, so he is talking nonsense.)
  9. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 29 January 2023 12: 17
    +3
    She, as I understand it, is not going to emerge from the word NEVER?
    1. Blackgrifon
      Blackgrifon 29 January 2023 12: 26
      +2
      No, Melnik, of course, is a crazy fanatic, but there is a grain of logic: the boat will need a port and it will be either Odessa (in this case it will be put on railway tracks or by sea under the flag of Romania / Bulgaria) or it will operate from the port of one of European countries - and this is even more drawing Europe into a war with us - from this to the provision of airfields and the direct use of their aircraft is one small step.
  10. megadeth
    megadeth 29 January 2023 12: 23
    +5
    You can, of course, laugh that the fascists will deliver submarines to the Ukrofascists, but if you imagine hypothetically, then there will be a big "nix" in Sevastopol, so you need to take Odessa, at least block it (with the grain deal we were again "simply ... cheated").
    1. Egeny
      Egeny 29 January 2023 12: 50
      0
      That's for sure. Let's go around Zaporozhye from the north, drive the Ukrainians out of Kherson, and there it's a stone's throw to Nikolaev, not far ... it was.
      Ugledar - Marinka - Avdiivka - Bakhmut ... this is the second line of defense of the ukrov, we will break it and open up operational space for the offensive.
  11. Galleon
    Galleon 29 January 2023 12: 26
    +5
    Just the other day I wrote on VO as an absurdity about the future demands of these international scammers wassat submarines and B-52s. And now they are already demanding submarines! What's next?
    Next in line is the demand that Europe itself fight for them. wassat fellow
  12. Alien From
    Alien From 29 January 2023 12: 28
    +5
    Something khikhelota trifles, let them immediately ask for a flying saucer. Phrase Lavrov!
    1. megadeth
      megadeth 29 January 2023 17: 28
      +1
      The "Death Star" from the movie Star Wars ... and the music is quiet from there, even sounds.
  13. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 29 January 2023 12: 30
    +4
    The Bundeswehr has six such submarines. Why not send one to Ukraine?

    So, Scholz, - the shirt went to tear ... wassat
  14. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 29 January 2023 12: 38
    +1
    Well, why not, now is the time to put the squeeze on Liver Sausage.
    And why doesn’t he ask for nuclear weapons?

    By the way, do we have satellite images of imported weapons on the territory of Ukrainian nuclear power plants?
    And then the IAEA is somehow blind ..... or we don’t have satellites¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  15. rusich
    rusich 29 January 2023 12: 41
    0
    The banderlogs are completely crazy. There are only 6 boats in Germany, and these are required. Like pot-headed krants are selected, if they scream, give, give
  16. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 29 January 2023 12: 54
    +4
    This Miller showed his brainlessness while being an ambassador in all its glory,
    for which he was driven.
    And he is no longer appeased, he seems to have gone into a rage.
    fool fool
  17. K-50
    K-50 29 January 2023 12: 56
    +3
    Ex-ambassador of Ukraine Melnyk demanded that Germany deliver a HDW 212A class submarine to Kyiv

    Maybe the key to the apartment where the money is? belay wassat
    1. Zamira
      Zamira 29 January 2023 14: 24
      0
      Quote: K-50
      Maybe the key to the apartment where the money is?

      Yes, take it higher. They want to become "the mistress of the sea."
      The worst thing is that they will give.
      They will give EVERYTHING that they can and even that they cannot.
      If now the "tanks" pass without interference, then everything else is just around the corner.
      Therefore, it is necessary to crush them URGENTLY, RUTHlessly and on ALL FRONTS!!!!!!
      There is NO other way out!
      Well, or I do not see this way out. It is possible that there are people who have "vision" better than mine ...
  18. Arbeiternegast
    Arbeiternegast 29 January 2023 13: 14
    +3
    Let the US demand an aircraft carrier, a Ford, otherwise there’s a boat!
  19. Alexey G
    Alexey G 29 January 2023 13: 19
    0
    Melnyk demanded that Germany deliver HDW 212A-class submarine to Kyiv

    , This is to then drape on it to Argentina or Fashington ....
  20. Dmitry Karabanov
    Dmitry Karabanov 29 January 2023 13: 22
    -1
    Come on, Melnik, rot on "offended liverwurst." The Teutonic spirit, diplomacy, but simply human dignity - this is not about Scholz! They will "swallow" something else, so come on, demand more (while Ukroreich still exists).
  21. Ezekiel 25-17
    Ezekiel 25-17 29 January 2023 13: 29
    0
    "... A submarine in the steppes of Ukraine..." There was such an anecdote. Or, what: having received a submarine, say, in Hamburg, they will take it out to the open sea and will sink our ships? This is World War III right off the bat.
  22. Sergey3
    Sergey3 29 January 2023 14: 28
    +2
    Why is it so weak? Is it weak to put an intergalactic destroyer-type cruiser? wassat
  23. Sergey39
    Sergey39 29 January 2023 14: 47
    +1
    I propose, Melnik, to rename it to Zaporozhye and send it to the steppes of Ukraine. (((
  24. YanniKounnar
    YanniKounnar 29 January 2023 14: 50
    +4
    Je m'étonne que dans leurs délires les Ukrainiens n'aient pas encore demandé un porte avion avec son escorte!


    I am surprised that in their delirium the Ukrainians have not yet requested an aircraft carrier with its escort!
  25. topol717
    topol717 29 January 2023 15: 01
    0
    Yes, everyone understands that the next request for nuclear weapons. they will say tactical nuclear weapons are needed.
  26. Ulan.1812
    Ulan.1812 29 January 2023 15: 27
    +1
    And a photon starship to boot. Walk so walk.
  27. 7 poplar
    7 poplar 29 January 2023 15: 52
    -1
    shorter and will continue to suck Europe! until they choke!
  28. Saratoga833
    Saratoga833 29 January 2023 16: 46
    0
    It is necessary for the Germans to give this Melnik a pood weight with a fastening around the neck and gurgle it in the sea next to the submarine! So that he gets to know the gift well. And the weight is because any g ... can surface ahead of time!
  29. Petr_Koldunov
    Petr_Koldunov 29 January 2023 21: 27
    -1
    Yes. Scholz will definitely give Melnik a submarine. And an oar - to row faster.
  30. sgr291158
    sgr291158 30 January 2023 06: 19
    0
    Melnik is completely crazy if he is going to clear the sea from the Russian fleet with one submarine.
  31. bombaher
    bombaher 30 January 2023 21: 12
    0
    Probably translated from Ukrainian incorrectly.
    The miller asked for a duck, not a boat.