Belarusian military-industrial complex stayed away from the special operation in Ukraine

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Belarusian military-industrial complex stayed away from the special operation in Ukraine
The Belarusian "Uragan-M" could significantly increase the mobility of Russian rocket artillery. Source: bmpd.livejournal.com


Belarus will help us?


One can have different attitudes towards the personality and charisma of Alexander Grigoryevich Lukashenko, but one thing is certain - he managed to maintain the military-industrial potential of the state. Such a small country is not able to produce the entire range of necessary weapons, but even the available ones are impressive. The Republic of Belarus produces multiple launch rocket systems, anti-tank weapon, electronic warfare systems, Drones and military vehicles. What Belarusians cannot assemble themselves, they buy from Russia. For example, Yak-130, Su-30SM aircraft, Mi-8MTV-5 helicopters, BTR-82A armored personnel carriers, Nona-M120 1-mm mortars and other equipment. Naturally, Minsk gets combat vehicles almost at cost, and sometimes for free.



In 2016, Belarus received four S-300PS battalions from Russia free of charge. Usually such gifts are explained by the requirements for the defense of the common Union State. But do not think that the neighbors are playing with us with one goal - there are very close ties between the military-industrial complex of the two countries. The defense complexes of the two countries will not be able to fully work without each other. At least 940 Russian enterprises supply more than 4 units and assemblies for military purposes to Belarus, and Belarusians, in turn, transfer about 2 items of products for 255 plants of the Russian military-industrial complex.

In memory, first of all, an extensive line of MZKT wheeled vehicles, tank sighting systems, microchips for rocket technology and other no less significant components. For example, Belarusian thermal imagers from Peleng can be found on the Russian Khrizantema-S ATGMs. If Russia wants to replace many components, it will be with great difficulty and loss of time. Everyone remembers the sad Platform-O project, according to which the country was supposed to receive its own analogues of MZKT tractors and rocket carriers. As a result, the program was abandoned, spending gigantic sums.

Therefore, if we talk about the involvement of Belarus in the NWO, then it is certainly present, albeit very indirectly. Moreover, the transfer of Russian defense enterprises to a military footing naturally increased the volume of orders for the military-industrial complex of a neighboring country. But so far there is not a single evidence of the use in the NWO of equipment completely produced at Belarusian factories. Except, of course, for the MZKT chassis for the Iskanders and the Smerch MLRS. Meanwhile, the neighbors have something to share with the Russian army right now. Many people talk about the Polonaise MLRS, which could supplement the rocket artillery in the SVO, but the Chinese missiles are used at the complex. Beijing carefully distances itself from the military operation, so it will never give the go-ahead to the "re-export" of products.


BRDM "Cayman" from the 140th repair plant in Borisov. Source: wikipedia.org

But there is the 140th repair plant in Borisov, capable of producing a wide range of light armored vehicles, which are expected at the front. Among these is the light BRDM "Cayman", which is mass-produced both for the Belarusian army and for export. Weight - 7 tons, armor protects against light small arms, crew - 6 people. Prototypes with a 30-mm cannon were built as part of the Ardunok combat module. According to media reports, the hull was made from Finnish armored steel, but a year and a half ago, supplies stopped due to sanctions. Armor does not seem to be a critical component of the Cayman's design - without much loss of quality, it can be replaced with Russian counterparts. But for some reason it is not replaced, and armored cars that are so necessary at the front are not visible on the NWO. The Belarusian machine is built on components that are widespread both in Russia and throughout the post-Soviet space. The Caimans will definitely not add a headache to military logisticians and repairmen, but they will provide protection to the fighters from deadly fragments and bullets.


MRAP "Defender". Source: wikipedia.org

At the International Exhibition MILEX-2019, a 20-ton armored vehicle "Defender" was presented. The Belarusian MRAP is protected in the fourth class, and the forehead with glasses is in the fifth. It is important that the motor and gearbox are Russian from the Yaroslavl Motor Plant. The YaMZ-7511 engine from Kirovets is completely localized and does not depend on imported components. Can Alyaksandr Lukashenka issue a command to supply "Defenders", which are rare on the Western front? Maybe, but for some reason it doesn't. Belarusian Lend-Lease was supposed to start working on the same day, as the government of the Republic found out about the plans to attack Ukraine. Recall that on March 11 last year, President Lukashenko said the famous:

“Now I’ll show you where the attack on Belarus was being prepared from.”

Belarusian Lend-Lease


In the extensive list of weapons made in Belarus, you can find the Uragan-M MLRS. Unlike the Polonaise, no import restrictions apply to the car. The 220-mm artillery mount is based on the MAZ-631705 chassis, which distinguishes it favorably from the Russian version on the ancient ZIL-135LM. To understand what the 135th ZIL is like: it is an eight-wheeled SUV with two 120-horsepower gasoline engines, each of which drives the wheels of its side. That is, ZiL does not have bridges in the usual sense and center differentials. There is a complex wheel control system - front and rear are swivel. The latter turn in antiphase to the front end. It is rare when it is possible to adjust the synchronous operation of the motors of the all-terrain vehicle, as a result, one always “twists”, and the second one “does not twist”. In a good way, this anachronism should have long been replaced by a four-axle KamAZ of the Mustang family, but who knew that the special operation would follow such a scenario, where there would be nowhere without heavy rocket artillery. And Belarus has a "Hurricane-M" on a completely modern and reliable chassis.








The Belarusian "Uragan-M" could significantly increase the mobility of Russian rocket artillery. Source: bmpd.livejournal.com

There are no analogues in Russia of the 80-mm MLRS "Flute", made on the basis of the light armored car "ASILAK" SHTS. The installation package immediately 80 guides for aviation NAR C-8. Cheap, angry and effective, but for some reason it passes us by.






The Belarusian “Flute” is good for everyone. One minus - she is not on the special operation. Source: wikipedia.org






There are no analogues of the MZKT-690003 Volat V-2 in Russia. Source: wikipedia.org

The Minsk Wheel Tractor Plant is able to produce excellent rocket and tank carriers. But the company's portfolio also includes light armored vehicles. The largest is MZKT-690003 Volat V-2. This is a prototype of the Belarusian armored personnel carrier, which is being prepared to replace the BTR-80 series. So far, a couple of machines have been built, but no one bothers to establish trial operation in the NWO zone. Moreover, of the novelties in Volat, there is only a Chinese diesel engine, which can be easily replaced by a Russian counterpart, for example, the Barnaul UTD. In the Russian army, there are no analogues of such heavy (weight Volat V-2 - 20 tons) and well-armored wheeled armored personnel carriers with powerful cannon armament and aft ramp for landing.


Volat V-1. Source: wikipedia.org

The Belarusian Volat V1, light armored vehicles designed for 10 crew members, can fight in the same field with the Tigers. The car was repeatedly exhibited at exhibitions, including the "Army", but did not interest foreign buyers. This is a common problem for Belarusian technology - Western sanctions have actually closed the access of products to foreign markets. The leadership of Belarus has nothing to lose, but we still do not see the emblems of MAZ, MZKT and Volat on the fronts of the Northern Military District.


ATGM "Shershen", which has no analogues in Russia either. Source: wikipedia.org

Belarus has the competence to produce the Shershen ATGM, comparable in its parameters to the Ukrainian Stugna. The main thing that the Shershn has and that no Russian ATGM has is the ability to aim a missile from a closed position. This allows you not to substitute the calculation under the return fire of the enemy. Given the imminent appearance of dozens of NATO tanks in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the presence of Hornets in addition to Russian anti-tank equipment would not be superfluous at all.

And, finally, the main thing that Belarus can share with the Russian group is numerous drones. You can start with the Condor-2, designed to detect enemy air defense systems. In case of military use drone he

"creates a virtual grouping of combat aircraft, which forces the enemy's radar to engage in active work, that is, switch to radiation mode on a false group target."

An extremely relevant product in the realities of a special operation in Ukraine.


"Condor-2". Source: www.belrynok.by




Are drones with a pair of RPG-26s on board necessary for a special operation? The question is rhetorical. Source: wikipedia.org

In Vitebsk, the Kvadro anti-tank drone was developed, and the military adopted it, capable of carrying up to two RPG-26s in the air. The product was first demonstrated back in 2017. Now at the front, something similar is being made literally on the knee in garage conditions, and mass-scale factory production has been established in the Union State.

The analogue of the Russian "Corsair" is the Belarusian reconnaissance drone "Grif-1". In the air, a drone with a gross weight of 170 kg can stay up to 8 hours and carry laser target designation equipment, which is now chronically lacking in the corrected Krasnopol. As, however, there are not enough "Corsairs" themselves.


"Vulture-1". Source: www.belrynok.by


Percussion Hunter. Source: wikipedia.org

Next on the list is the unmanned helicopter Hunter, which appeared in Belarusians a couple of years ago. So far, he is at the testing stage, but they may well be organized in the special operation zone. Moreover, this is an attack drone carrying PKM, eight 57-mm NURs and sixteen anti-tank bombs on board. Why is Hunter not under Bakhmut yet?

For some, the involvement of finished products of the Belarusian military-industrial complex in a special operation looks like a sign of the weakness of the Russian defense industry. This is partly true, but no country in the world can provide itself with weapons 100 percent. Even Americans with a space defense budget are forced to buy the Trophy tank active protection system from the Israelis. History with the military-technical potential of our neighbor raises an important question - are we with the Republic of Belarus in the same boat or are we in different boats? This question sounds especially loud if you count how many billions Russia has invested in the independence and good location of the leadership of the neighboring republic.
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  1. +4
    31 January 2023 04: 22
    Yes, there is more of a question, why now Sosna sights, as they wrote here, are not enough for all our tanks, only for the T-90s ... This is critical. The rest - in the sense of "would be nice" ...
    But here, too - it’s unlikely that But father is twisting his mustache - as the author pointed out, all markets were closed to him, he won’t get any profit from this ... Nipanyatna
    1. +12
      31 January 2023 04: 42
      Quote from Bingo
      . Nipanyatna

      There are two reasons: Or the dad is afraid of extra. sanctions, or ours do not take! what
      1. +4
        31 January 2023 05: 09
        our own trains are being driven to Belarus.
      2. +1
        31 January 2023 08: 21
        Belarus lost in WWII -25% population.
        1. 0
          9 February 2023 07: 39
          AND? Are we going to calculate percentages by nation now?
      3. The comment was deleted.
      4. -4
        31 January 2023 10: 08
        What should be taken from the father, except for chassis sights for missile complexes? And the answer is NOTHING, since everything like this is also produced here - both armored personnel carriers and MLRS (and 80mm are not needed, and so a zoo of 3 calibers), armored vehicles (and there are plenty of our own, where else to breed a zoo) ...
        1. 0
          9 February 2023 07: 43
          Quote: moreman78
          What should be taken from the father, except for chassis sights for missile complexes? And the answer is NOTHING, since everything like this is also produced here - both armored personnel carriers and MLRS (and 80mm are not needed, and so a zoo of 3 calibers), armored vehicles (and there are plenty of our own, where else to breed a zoo) ...

          You need to take everything that will fit, the losses of armored vehicles are significant. Another thing is that Lukashenka is very afraid of internal unrest, and his army is not a fact that he will fight for someone, they have enough of their own nationalists
    2. +19
      31 January 2023 05: 40
      What Len-Lease from Belarus? Read the latest news about the supply of weapons from the Russian Federation to the BR. A couple of days ago, a batch of BTR-82A was delivered. I do not remind you of people like the S-400, Iskander ....
      Belarus is a small country, and in such comments it is mistaken for some kind of industrial and military giant.
      1. Aag
        +1
        31 January 2023 17: 39
        "... Belarus is a small country, and in such comments it is mistaken for some kind of industrial and military giant ..."
        If you count per capita, the area of ​​the country, then, perhaps, it will be thicker than in the Russian Federation. Agriculture is a separate issue.
      2. Aag
        +1
        31 January 2023 18: 28
        "... I don't remind you of people like the S-400, Iskander ...."
        Of course, Iskander, as a complex, is not only the MZKT chassis. But, over the past decades, our "helmsmen" have not been able to create their own alternative with ever-increasing risks.
        And, let's not forget that all our PGRK ICBMs have been sitting tightly for a long time, standing, on the products of the MZKT. There is no alternative in sight. Therefore, IMHO, it is unjustified to complain that they say we are resources for them, this, that, behold ... And they, the "bulbashi", are not so grateful. Exactly the same as with air defense systems - They are at the forefront! (Cynically, not cynically, - but exactly what they are trying to portray from the territories recently admitted to the Russian Federation.).
        / where am I wrong? /
        Basically, it's a normal move.
        Only, - an attempt at execution - very clumsy. Naturally, it all didn’t start on February 24.02, 2020. Everyone will appreciate it in their own way: whoever gravitates towards sports may remember how our athletes were spread rot (if the persons responsible for this direction were incapacitated / I remember Mutko /) ...
        And now together (!): education (with the history of the Second World War on two sheets of a history textbook, Solzhenitsyn ...); medicine (Covid to help you - how much they lowered everyone financially, someone really - a meter and a half ... And very much not free. Hello "Madame Arbidol").
        The pension reform, the more ancient monetization of benefits, apparently is not worth mentioning - many do not know (!).
        ... And further down the list ... No! Not from the training manual, - as some will now try to imagine ....
        They just taught us to switch attention .... And so in many ways: for a long time, domestic media poured into our ears how the West would bend, and ...? Oh, yes, General Frost, not yet on our side ...
        And gr .... e "analysts", "heralds", are rowing with increased intensity ...
        And Vanya, Seryoga, or even Zurab taken separately (it seems that there are many such ideological ones left - I'm talking about what I see!), How they worked hard for ... food ... - they continue! (partly conditionally , - in fact, the conditions are getting tougher.).
    3. Eug
      +6
      31 January 2023 06: 38
      As for me, it is in terms of sights that the issue is in the matrices. They are needed for explosive missiles too. In the USSR, matrices for the GOS of explosive missiles were made by Kyiv, in the Russian Federation, it seems, in Novosibirsk they were made under license, but, most likely, the sanctions cut off the oxygen. And the Belarusians do not want to run into trouble. Regarding other equipment, as for me, it is necessary to ask the lobbyists of the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation, in my opinion, there are a lot of interesting and urgently needed samples. Motor transport, incl. special and protected, there is not much.
      1. +2
        31 January 2023 13: 17
        Yes, I already wrote in the relevant topic that Sosna-U is produced in our country and the 800x600 matrices are fully mastered, so it’s not the Belarusians and the “partners” who have nothing to do with it.
      2. +3
        31 January 2023 19: 48
        Belarusians have not bad samples. Question in their series. There are developments, mass production cannot be deployed for purchase, money is needed. That is, if you want to mass-produce this or that Belarusian product for the Russian army, then you should invest in expanding or even creating a new production from scratch. We have already gone through this, and that's why the Russians don't want to. It is easier to create or expand the production of these products on your territory. But here already Lukashenka is like a gag to prevent such a scenario.
    4. +8
      31 January 2023 09: 17
      It’s time to start producing tank sights similar to Sosna U, the inability to produce critical components and components for our army is just a shame, how to bankrupt and close factories, so we are great masters in this, but how to organize mass production of critically needed types and types of products for our army and industry, so here for some reason we always have unsolvable problems, we are used to buying everything abroad, it is time for us to urgently change approaches in order to finally learn how to solve these important problems for us.
      1. +6
        31 January 2023 09: 47
        Quote: sgrabik
        accustomed to buying everything abroad, it is time for us to urgently change approaches in order to finally start solving these important problems for us.

        There are other priorities, fast money is at the forefront. Establishing production is long and dreary, and the profit is very far away, but here I bought it, resold it and everything was in openwork. So they bought, resold and will continue to do so.
        1. -8
          31 January 2023 09: 51
          Quote: lis-ik
          and then I bought it, resold it and everything is in openwork

          Personal experience? food speculator laughing
          1. -2
            31 January 2023 17: 21
            Quote: Repellent
            Quote: lis-ik
            and then I bought it, resold it and everything is in openwork

            Personal experience? food speculator laughing

            Everything, as usual, is much simpler. At times ....
            Quote: sgrabik
            It’s time to start producing tank sights similar to Sosna U, the inability to produce critical components and components for your army is just a shame,

            Quote: lis-ik

            There are other priorities, fast money is at the forefront. Establishing production is long and dreary, and the profit is very far away, but here I bought it, resold it and everything was in openwork.

            The main thing is to kick the power - and the reason is not even interesting
            Quote: Xenofont
            Yes, I already wrote in the relevant topic that Sosna-U is produced by us and 800x600 matrices are fully mastered, so it’s not the Belarusians and the “partners” who have nothing to do with it.
          2. Aag
            0
            31 January 2023 19: 49
            Quote: Repellent
            Quote: lis-ik
            and then I bought it, resold it and everything is in openwork

            Personal experience? food speculator laughing

            Here's the Truth, - I can't understand, - What are you advocating, worrying about, ... what do you want? What are you upholding...
            I will try to put the question differently: what kind of future would you like to see; what do you really count on?
            I'm sorry if I touched on an intimate... hi
        2. 0
          9 February 2023 08: 21
          The fact is that the whole point is that, unfortunately, we still have the priority of the interests of the oligarchs and hucksters, and not the national interests of the country.
      2. Aag
        +1
        31 January 2023 19: 43
        Quote: sgrabik
        It’s time to start producing tank sights similar to Sosna U, the inability to produce critical components and components for our army is just a shame, how to bankrupt and close factories, so we are great masters in this, but how to organize mass production of critically needed types and types of products for our army and industry, so here for some reason we always have unsolvable problems, we are used to buying everything abroad, it is time for us to urgently change approaches in order to finally learn how to solve these important problems for us.

        ... As well as about the chassis for the iconic weapons of the Russian Federation from the MZKT.
        And it turns out that a number of strategically important industries are located at the borders of NATO (as in the 41st it’s impossible to evacuate beyond the Urals, not those realities!), Within the reach of barrel, jet artillery, not to mention everything else ...
        And do not say that this cannot be - you have seen enough of late! ((((.
        hi
      3. +1
        31 January 2023 19: 59
        Already produced and delivered. At the same time, all components are their own. And the military say that they are not very bad products. By the way, the production of cameras was also established with a good zoom and resolution no worse than imported ones, and in some respects even superior to imported ones. Ours can do everything when it's running out.
        Well, according to the sights, then they cannot be established in the conditions of hostilities, it is necessary to drive the tanks to the rear to the repair shops or factories. Therefore, what is new comes to be replaced, they already have improved sights. And as they are retired or possible, tanks are replaced. Yes, and expanding the production of new sights takes time. So everything will be fine. And besides, the distances at which our tanks are fighting in Ukraine and the conditions are quite satisfied so far with the previously installed sights.
      4. 0
        9 February 2023 07: 50
        Quote: sgrabik
        It’s time to start producing tank sights similar to Sosna U, the inability to produce critical components and components for our army is just a shame, how to bankrupt and close factories, so we are great masters in this, but how to organize mass production of critically needed types and types of products for our army and industry, so here for some reason we always have unsolvable problems, we are used to buying everything abroad, it is time for us to urgently change approaches in order to finally learn how to solve these important problems for us.

        They have been producing everything for a long time, as always, it’s a matter of price. If they upgraded 10 t-72 a year to their own, then they produced the same number of sights.
    5. +1
      31 January 2023 21: 20
      The new T-72B3 tank is at the disposal of the 1st Slavic brigade of the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR). The upgraded tank has a new thermal imaging sight, the lower frontal part and sides were equipped with additional dynamic protection, the turret was covered with an anti-cumulative mesh. Also, this model has a more powerful engine - it now has more than 1 thousand hp. It is noted that the crew quickly mastered the new model. “You can put an ordinary gunner, a mechanic here from an ordinary 72 with any, and he will go into battle in half an hour,” said the mechanic of the Rembat of the 1st Slavic Brigade of the 1st Donetsk Army Corps with the call sign Big.
      In addition, the new T-72B3 has already been tested in combat. The tank worked on the positions of the Ukrainian army in Avdiivka. During the fighting, the crew is assisted by a copter, which captures the actions of the enemy and transmits data to the fighters.
      1. 0
        9 February 2023 07: 52
        Quote: svoroponov
        The new T-72B3 tank is at the disposal of the 1st Slavic brigade of the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR). The upgraded tank has a new thermal imaging sight, the lower frontal part and sides were equipped with additional dynamic protection, the turret was covered with an anti-cumulative mesh. Also, this model has a more powerful engine - it now has more than 1 thousand hp. It is noted that the crew quickly mastered the new model. “You can put an ordinary gunner, a mechanic here from an ordinary 72 with any, and he will go into battle in half an hour,” said the mechanic of the Rembat of the 1st Slavic Brigade of the 1st Donetsk Army Corps with the call sign Big.
        In addition, the new T-72B3 has already been tested in combat. The tank worked on the positions of the Ukrainian army in Avdiivka. During the fighting, the crew is assisted by a copter, which captures the actions of the enemy and transmits data to the fighters.

        1 tank per brigade? They have actually been modernizing them for a long time, only very little
    6. 0
      1 February 2023 23: 39
      Maybe the Belarusians don’t give kickbacks to the generals, or maybe our military-industrial complex is greedy and doesn’t want to share the money, as you know, there aren’t many of them, but of course the dad has good weapons in production that can strengthen our army and reduce losses, but as always, everything depends on money.
    7. 0
      2 February 2023 00: 15
      Quote from Bingo
      Yes, there is more of a question, why now Sosna sights, as they wrote here, are not enough for all our tanks,

      Maybe because Peleneg developed Sosna U based on a license from French Thales? Do Belarusians make all the components of the Sosna U PPK themselves? But there is a Russian analogue from Shvabe, but it is with an 8x zoom, unlike Sosna-U with a 12x zoom.
      1. 0
        9 February 2023 08: 29
        What prevents the same "Schvabe" from taking and modifying its products to the required characteristics, I think that money will not matter, now is not the time to save on the combat capability of your army and the national security of the state.
  2. +41
    31 January 2023 05: 26
    Why nod at Grigorych when our Volodka himself is not eager to delve into the nuances of the special operation, delegating the right to deal with the brewed porridge to anyone, from the Ministry of Defense to the governor's corps and volunteers, if only he was not disturbed. I gave the order to attack, and then you yourself. No, of course, the delivery of the state. awards, listening to reports and other officialdom oblige to minimal participation, but the solution of complex, complex problems that go beyond financial issues is already difficult, dreary and it is better not to tire the first person with them. As a result, for 12 months. hostilities, the Presidential Administration has not yet had a specialized committee that could take over, for example, issues of interaction between the Moscow Region and Rostec, which oversees the military-industrial complex, as well as other urgent problems of logistics and supply. But this is not. "We haven't started anything yet" - the sacred formula of this whole process. Why then be surprised that the leader of a neighboring country, who is mired in debt like silk, is also in no hurry to expose himself once again to the distribution? And rightly so, I'll tell you, it does.
    1. Aag
      0
      31 January 2023 19: 53
      "... And rightly so, I'll tell you, it does..."
      Like many other potential partners (in the correct sense of the word), allies ...
      hi
      1. +1
        1 February 2023 22: 42
        Yes, the comrade is right that he said so, in the NWO there is such a mess that there should not be enough camps for everyone. Where is the rear? Why do we shoe and clothe and even feed our mobilized. Yes, I do not mind helping, but not uniforms, armor, teploki to buy the whole world. Yes, let it be so, but we buy Niva cars and pills as a group! And from storage, the equipment is serviced by commerce and sold, how is it? Victory is made first of all in the rear, and then on the battlefield! If our grandfathers fought like that, there was no 1945. In a word, it's a mess and everything. Order is only at parades and on TV.
    2. 0
      3 February 2023 09: 24
      Profile committee from whom?
      Can you imagine that the commanders of companies, battalions and divisions should be invited to that committee in order to make sense - who will fight for them.
      They will include fans of shaving and collars from the Duma but with stripes - which they understand in the database in modern conditions.
  3. +15
    31 January 2023 05: 30
    Everyone remembers the sad Platform-O project, according to which the country was supposed to receive its own analogues of MZKT tractors and rocket carriers.


    and what to remember if there Kamaz completely screwed up by swinging at something that it never did (medium, heavy and super-heavy tractors), deciding to use imported components in them following the example of a superjet. The West tightened the screws on the sanctions and eventually came out zilch.
    Yes, and not from a good life, Russia decided to develop its tractors, but from the multi-vector nature of the Belarusian authorities, which at one time almost tried to blackmail Russia in the supply of its tractors.
    And if there was a failure for medium, heavy and super-heavy tractors (used for the Iskander and YARS systems), then in air defense for the S-400 and S-350 (VITYAZ) launchers, we completely replaced the Belarusian MZKT chassis with our Bryansk ones from BAZ. The only thing in the composition of these complexes, the radar remained on the Belarusian chassis, and because it needed a medium chassis that Kamaz could not replace.

    Many people talk about the Polonaise MLRS, which could complement the rocket artillery in the SVO, but the missiles at the complex are Chinese.


    you just start to respect the Belarusian military-industrial complex for the invention of powerful and long-range weapons, so you instantly find out that all its miracle lay in Chinese missiles.

    The largest is MZKT-690003 Volat V-2. This is a prototype of the Belarusian armored personnel carrier, which is being prepared to replace the BTR-80 series.


    Moreover, of the novelties in Volat, only Chinese diesel,

    not only is the prototype also based on a Chinese engine.

    Belarusian military-industrial complex stayed away from the special operation in Ukraine


    he did not stay and delivers what he can really offer, namely the very chassis medium and heavy-heavy tractors, sights and electronic components.
    Regarding the Stugna-P ATGM, its armor penetration is 25% lower than that of the Russian Kornet and has a solid weight of 90kg. Whereas the Russian complex weighs 72kg.

    In general, the Belarusian military-industrial complex is somewhat reminiscent in its successes of the Russian civil aviation industry, namely, it seems to have new items and aircraft.
    And as you dig, you understand that there will not be more than 20% of your own in the composition of the finished product.

    PS. I was especially amused about the Flute MLRS, which is based to the last nut on the Russian Buran armored car and the unguided Soviet / Russian S-8 missile.
    1. +8
      31 January 2023 10: 34
      Regarding the Stugna-P ATGM, its armor penetration is 25% lower than that of the Russian Kornet and has a solid weight of 90kg. Whereas the Russian complex weighs 72kg.


      Armor penetration is such a conditional factor in real combat effectiveness, especially in the current conditions, if you change sides. Oplot and T-90M in the singular in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. He can confidently beat 64BV / 72M1 with a contact.

      A solid weight, understands the calculation and between Fagot, Milan and Stugna, it's the turn to carry Stugna.

      But - Bassoon / Cornet, etc. the entire flight of the rocket + more time is the risk of catching a land mine in response. Unpleasant. Hence the restrictions on the use, because the calculation to heaven is in no hurry, therefore, it sets the anti-tank systems in such a way as to survive as much as possible.

      Stugna / Hornet, allow you to attack brazenly. The launcher itself is very difficult to detect (visually / in a thermal imager). At the same time, the calculation sits in a shelter with a remote control. And a cable-type device - allows you to pull off the fired launcher without going under fire, and then change position.
      1. 0
        31 January 2023 10: 40
        And a cable-type device - allows you to pull off the shot PU

        You didn't get excited? ))
        1. +5
          31 January 2023 13: 08
          Last year there were videos of how they pull off the installation after shooting in a similar way.
          1. 0
            31 January 2023 17: 30
            I would appreciate a link. Because, although it is believed that jet propulsion excludes recoil, it is still there, albeit small. If you find a video of the launch from Stugna, where the "pipe" is closely visible, then see for yourself. If it were possible to "pull off" the launcher with a cable, then it would fly off when fired))) Usually there is a lock connection or a similar design solution.
      2. 0
        31 January 2023 14: 05
        Quote: donavi49
        Oplot and T-90M in the singular in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.


        you have everything mixed up in a heap and the Ukrainian Oplot, which is now in the singular, and the Russian T-90M, of which more than 2022 pieces entered service with the Russian army in 400.

        The Belarusian-Ukrainian "Shershn" uses a Ukrainian rocket (produced in Ukraine), which means that the issue of this complex for use in the NWO can be closed.

        Quote: donavi49
        Stugna / Hornet, allow you to attack brazenly. The launcher itself is very difficult to detect (visually / in a thermal imager). At the same time, the calculation sits in a shelter with a remote control.


        back in that year, among the Russian trophies, Stugna-P flashed several times. Apparently, the Ukrainian soldiers abandoned her from that very impudence.
        The T-90M is equipped with high-resolution thermal imaging sights capable, according to the assurances of the crew of this tank, to see a mouse.
        1. +9
          31 January 2023 14: 38
          We are talking about the T-90M - which is in the 30th brigade. He was featured in a report back in October. In the article, the sides were turned over, evaluating the products of the military-industrial complex of the allied state for their usefulness in the NWO. Therefore, the targets are armored vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.



          The Belarusian-Ukrainian "Shershn" uses a Ukrainian rocket (produced in Ukraine), which means that the issue of this complex for use in NWO can be closed


          I just pointed out that the use of a remote control is an obvious advantage, which was shown by the dryers with a bunch of gaps without risk to themselves.

          Apparently abandoned her ukrovoiny from the very impudence.


          Anything is thrown. This is not an indicator. The remote control for the ATGM allows you to:
          1) Save trained calculations. Again, according to the same videos of last year, when Stugna was in abundance, there were videos with firing a rocket and throwing a launcher under the response.
          2) Behave more flexibly and boldly. For an empty anti-tank system does not stand out so much in optical and thermal + you can put a greater risk on choosing a position based on its effectiveness.
          3) More confident to guide the rocket. That is, to increase the percentage of hits, because it is one thing to feel that this is your last second, and another thing is actually like on a simulator through a terminal remote from the launcher.

          The fighting for 22 years showed that a remote control and an autonomous launcher are a useful thing.
          1. 0
            31 January 2023 15: 21
            Quote: donavi49
            We are talking about the T-90M - which is in the 30th brigade.


            there is not a T-90M but a T-90A model.

            Quote: donavi49
            The remote control for the ATGM allows you to:
            1) Save trained calculations. Again, according to the same videos of last year, when Stugna was in abundance, there were videos with firing a rocket and throwing a launcher under the response.


            T-90M entering the SVO zone allow you to work from closed positions, which means the Stugna-P operator may not know what has torn him to pieces.
            And in general, it’s not worth getting hung up on Stugna-P, of which only a few have actually been produced for all the time (200 launchers and 3000 missiles for the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the fall of 2018 [1] + at least 40 launchers for NSU at the end of 2017), while the Kornet ATGM more than 35 thousand launchers were produced.
            1. 0
              31 January 2023 16: 34
              T-90M entering the SVO zone allow you to work from closed positions, which means the Stugna-P operator may not know what has torn him to pieces.

              Well, tell us how the T-90M will smash the calculation in the ravine! Yes, even because of the hillock! And so the T-72 can hit from closed positions ...
            2. 0
              31 January 2023 22: 46
              Yes, you zadolbali, some kind of skepticism of the brain! It's not about the rocket, let it be Cornet - it doesn't matter. The main thing is a remote control and automatic tracking to the target, and instead of a Belarusian / Ukrainian / Chinese rocket, it is quite possible to attach a cornet. What is there to argue with?
      3. Aag
        0
        31 January 2023 20: 13
        "... Armor penetration is such a conditional factor in real combat effectiveness, ...".
        I agree. Apparently, this happens more often ...
        "... Stugna / Hornet, they allow you to attack brazenly. The launcher itself is very difficult to detect (visually / in a thermal imager) ..."
        At the same time, the calculation remains intact, becoming more experienced, "impudent" (in the good sense of the word), effective, if you like. hi
    2. +2
      31 January 2023 18: 27
      Chinese diesel on V-2, if anything, is assembled near Minsk. The factory was recently built there.
    3. 0
      31 January 2023 20: 06
      About Stugna. Such an installation has already passed the test with us and is starting to be delivered to the front line. And to be honest, a similar remote module was tested on the basis of one of the ATGM installations a long time ago, 5 years ago I watched similar tests in one of the videos "Military Acceptance" wait, maybe the videos will appear soon from the front line.
  4. +9
    31 January 2023 05: 33
    At exhibitions in layouts and advertising booklets, everything is always beautiful and professional. How all this will show itself in a real war with an enemy equipped with NATO weapons is a big question. We, too, before the war, judging by the numerous exhibitions of weapons and TV programs like I Serve Russia, everything was super-duper. But any war is notable for the fact that you can no longer hide the shortcomings like in a civilian, and they all come out without fail - which already happened to us after February 24th.
    1. 0
      31 January 2023 20: 20
      NATO weapons are also often not ice. With a lot of problems. But if the owner imposed it on you and you bought it for kickbacks, then you will assure everyone that this weapon is the best in the world. For everyone - Western weapons are for sale. Our weapons are for war. I will give an example. The American special forces positioned only their weapons on the camera, since all the filming was carried out with the consent and censorship of the military. But in reality, they went to operations with our AKs, our RPGs. And they preferred Mi helicopters. Their helicopters worked poorly in the conditions of mountains and highlands. This was told to me by a former soldier who served in the British contingent and covered the Americans in such operations.
      1. 0
        1 February 2023 10: 21
        Quote: svoroponov
        For everyone - Western weapons are for sale. Our weapons are for war


        Chatter at the kindergarten level. Not schools, but kindergarten.

        Quote: svoroponov
        But in reality, they went to operations with our AKs, our RPGs. And they preferred Mi helicopters. Their helicopters worked poorly in the conditions of mountains and highlands.


        They even laughed at these stories in the USSR, only then it was about Vietnam, and then about Afghanistan. But everywhere the object was the same - American soldiers threw out their M16s and took captured Kalashnikovs. And now the tales have come down to sheer absurdity - the Americans secretly took Russian helicopters from somewhere and fought on them. Obviously, in a couple of years, the children will chat, as the American brigade personally told them, how American pilots threw their F35s and transferred to Russian Su-Migs, since American planes are not adapted for war, and Russian ones are generally terminator weapons.

        ps Just curious - how old are you?
  5. -5
    31 January 2023 06: 30
    As always with our friends, the game is one way.... There is free and there is not even an echo from there....
    1. Aag
      0
      31 January 2023 20: 27
      Quote from Voronezh
      As always with our friends, the game is one way.... There is free and there is not even an echo from there....

      Why such beliefs, views?
      Under the influence of our propaganda - ists? So they "changed their shoes" more than once to please ... I don't know who repeatedly.
      Try to remember last year's March sayings of TV - "experts" - they say, they will enter (offensive, actions of the RF Armed Forces) into the anals of all military academies in the world!
      Yes, it looks like it will. Just as a negative example...
      Further. Sivkov about "half rings", "horseshoes" of a semicircle ... Nonsense.
      Personally, I became anxious when the Supreme High Command, under the cameras, squeezed out of Naryshkin consent to conduct an NWO.
      ... Many then in the comments here, on "VO", noted ...
      Another thing worried me: our intelligence did not bring the true state of affairs to the top leadership (couldn’t, didn’t want to?); or her (intelligence) opinion was ignored) ?!
      Why? For what? For whom?!...
      hi
  6. -9
    31 January 2023 06: 56
    Recently I responded to a comment that they say Russia has only one ally, this is Belarus. I compared such an ally with my mother-in-law, there is no need to explain how and what in this matter can be expected from such a relative! Some of the minuses were, you see, or mother-in-law, or their fighting fist "unfortunate daughter", or a rare case of a sanctioned son-in-law! Suffice it to recall our "marriage" with Belarus ... like you have to love and provide for me, and I will feed you and designate your prestige with my beauty, but marital duty ... what people will say! And you decide to bend over, I'll go into hysterics and leave ..., there are so many people who want to! And during a divorce, how decent people should get out with one suitcase with documents! All this went and somehow not very well, the dad is not a fool and smart for himself (although his last elections are somehow not smart ....), decency at the level of a gypsy shobla (they chatter, promise, drag away ....), in In critical situations, he will stand aside for us and report that this is a man's business ... but if they start bending him, then you, as a man, are obliged ...!
    1. Aag
      0
      31 January 2023 20: 39
      Quote: lithium17
      Recently I responded to a comment that they say Russia has only one ally, this is Belarus. I compared such an ally with my mother-in-law, there is no need to explain how and what in this matter can be expected from such a relative! Some of the minuses were, you see, or mother-in-law, or their fighting fist "unfortunate daughter", or a rare case of a sanctioned son-in-law! Suffice it to recall our "marriage" with Belarus ... like you have to love and provide for me, and I will feed you and designate your prestige with my beauty, but marital duty ... what people will say! And you decide to bend over, I'll go into hysterics and leave ..., there are so many people who want to! And during a divorce, how decent people should get out with one suitcase with documents! All this went and somehow not very well, the dad is not a fool and smart for himself (although his last elections are somehow not smart ....), decency at the level of a gypsy shobla (they chatter, promise, drag away ....), in In critical situations, he will stand aside for us and report that this is a man's business ... but if they start bending him, then you, as a man, are obliged ...!

      Sorry, from your entire comment we can conclude that you are not very indifferent to the topic.
      No more...
      Nope, there is something consonant with my beliefs. But not exposed in a public form.
      Plus from me for trying (not a handout, - true), - I think the essence of your thought, I followed up, but I saw it.
      hi
  7. +10
    31 January 2023 07: 42
    And what about Lukashenka? You listen to our media - everything is in abundance, everything is enough. So they don’t connect the Belarusian military-industrial complex. Would the same MAZ and MZKT trucks be superfluous in the NWO? And armored cars. Yes, it would be possible to "rivet" our Urals-VPK at Belarusian facilities, if our factories do not keep up with the needs of the army. But is our industry able to saturate Belarusian capacities with steel and armor? Are their capacities not idle?
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    2. -1
      31 January 2023 20: 23
      Yes, the Belarusians do not have the capacity for production. If you want to get, expand or even create from scratch, but with your money and on the territory of Belarus. Do we need it?
    3. Aag
      -1
      31 January 2023 20: 46
      Quote: Cetarb Kilork
      And what about Lukashenka? You listen to our media - everything is in abundance, everything is enough. So they don’t connect the Belarusian military-industrial complex. Would the same MAZ and MZKT trucks be superfluous in the NWO? And armored cars. Yes, it would be possible to "rivet" our Urals-VPK at Belarusian facilities, if our factories do not keep up with the needs of the army. But is our industry able to saturate Belarusian capacities with steel and armor? Are their capacities not idle?

      It seems that our military-industrial complex, production serve other purposes. For the purposes of others...
  8. +5
    31 January 2023 09: 00
    Article for ignition, or what? In the style of "brothers are not brothers to us." Most of the items listed in the article exist in single copies.
    1. -4
      31 January 2023 12: 31
      Quote: A vile skeptic
      Article for ignition, or what? In the style of "brothers are not brothers to us." Most of the items listed in the article exist in single copies.

      Probably the logic is approximately the same as that Poland or Lithuania is draining their equipment to Ukraine under 0, but why Belarus cannot act according to the same "scheme" and "help" the Russian Federation?
      1. -1
        31 January 2023 20: 30
        By the fact that on the territory of Poland and Lithuania a shock fist was created from the technology of the Americans. And for these bobs, at least send all the equipment to Ukraine, it won’t be worse. Nobody will fight them, because nobody fucking needs them. With such an anti-Russian biomass, these countries are like heaps of fresh shit. Don't touch and don't get dirty. So let them fight in falling anti-Russians with foam at the mouth. You just need to look at these countries like they are crazy in their wards.
      2. Aag
        +2
        31 January 2023 20: 54
        "..., and that's why Belarus cannot act according to the same "scheme" and "help" the Russian Federation?..."
        Apparently because the Russian Federation has established itself as a "reliable partner" with Western countries - to puff up to prove its loyalty. At least as a responsible supplier...
        With regard to the allies ..., - well, - how the chip will fall ...
    2. -2
      31 January 2023 14: 22
      An article in the spirit of "safe patriotic criticism". Because shouting "hooray" is somehow strange, and not "hooray" is scary lol
    3. yho
      -2
      2 February 2023 19: 25
      Yes, it’s clear, experimental samples, like the Armata project and the Su-57.
  9. -1
    31 January 2023 09: 26
    As correctly noted in the comments, according to our cheers media and the Moscow Region, we already have everything.
    And there they have all these single exhibition copies.
    Need to? Pay for production, and then train technicians and specialists. Everything is clear to everyone ... Hold on ..

    And the second.
    According to the legislation of all countries, such as the Republic of Belarus, Central Asia, Russia, the participation of their citizens in the hostilities of foreign countries, both mercenaries and non-mercenaries, is a criminal offense. (well, you know...)

    So the Kremlin is obviously not going to pay for this equipment, and in no way can it be done privately - a pure criminal offense.
  10. +6
    31 January 2023 09: 35
    And what about Belarusians??? Did the author forget something about the former our most important rear? Which instead of the court was moved to a promotion. And with such geeks in the administration of the Russian army, is the author still trying to cast a shadow on the dad?
    1. Aag
      0
      31 January 2023 20: 59
      Quote: Yarik
      And what about Belarusians??? Did the author forget something about the former our most important rear? Which instead of the court was moved to a promotion. And with such geeks in the administration of the Russian army, is the author still trying to cast a shadow on the dad?

      That is why they are afraid (not unreasonably) - to infiltrate (we will infiltrate) with their oligarchic, parochial charter into their "monastery" ... I respect!
      hi
  11. +5
    31 January 2023 10: 51
    Or maybe it's because the Russian Defense Ministry simply did not order the purchase of these weapons?
  12. +1
    31 January 2023 11: 02
    The independence of the Belarusian military-industrial complex in terms of scientific developments is a rather controversial thing. This is a symbiosis of the engineering thought of the Russian military-industrial complex and the Belarusian military-industrial complex with the aim of bringing developments to their acceptance into service in "greenhouse" conditions. On the one hand, it is necessary to run in bench developments, which are released in almost single copies on the battlefield, but on the other hand, a pig in a poke, which can cost the lives of their own soldiers.
  13. +2
    31 January 2023 11: 06
    I think that the armament of the Armed Forces of Belarus and the capabilities of its military-industrial complex are kept in a strategic reserve and putting them into action will mean a critical situation in the NWO! Everyone understands perfectly well that there will be no independent Belarus in the event of our defeat, and the well-being of the fraternal people will quickly leave, since the West will eat up its entire economy in a couple of years! Take the best and destroy the rest! Nothing personal just business! This is their slogan!
  14. -6
    31 January 2023 11: 45
    Lukashenka keeps spinning like a snake and only does not remember aloud about his Bohat-vectorism, but keeps it in his mind. Otherwise, I would have long ago given my models of weapons and my volunteer officers in order to test weapons and gain combat experience. The Poles and the Balts are now the main danger for him, and they, moreover, are gaining combat experience in the Ukrainian fields ... Leave Russia to Belarus alone with the Poles and the Balts - the Belarusian army, which has no experience, will not last long ....
  15. -7
    31 January 2023 12: 18
    Alexander Grigorievich does not change himself, hide behind a big neighbor and takes everything from him, but at the same time he leaves himself a chance to jump out of this train if he suddenly goes downhill. He will bargain with "Western partners" to the last, I won't be surprised if he also surrenders whoever he needs for his own benefit.
    1. Aag
      0
      31 January 2023 21: 11
      Quote from Falcon Buster
      Alexander Grigorievich does not change himself, hide behind a big neighbor and takes everything from him, but at the same time he leaves himself a chance to jump out of this train if he suddenly goes downhill. He will bargain with "Western partners" to the last, I won't be surprised if he also surrenders whoever he needs for his own benefit.

      Well, such is the fate of small states ...
      And the AHL has more courage than some!
      Remember the rhetoric of the domestic media regarding Serbia! And kissed (verbally). And they poured mud on them ... Just, sometimes, try to put yourself in their place. Much will become clearer.
      And when a country with declared ambitions, the largest territories, with an UNFORMED CLEARLY vector of development begins ... to wiggle its priest ... What should they do?
      To the question - Who, whom, for whose benefit rents (surrendered), can you explain?
    2. yho
      -2
      2 February 2023 19: 20
      Lukashenka called Kyiv a day before the start of the NWO and warned. He himself said so on TV.
  16. -1
    31 January 2023 12: 22
    All of the above costs a lot of money. Maybe it's better to give this money to Russian manufacturers? Moreover, almost all of the voiced has Russian counterparts. And in order for everything to be produced quickly and in the right quantity in Russia, it is enough, in addition to funding, to establish "accounting and control" © (V. I. Lenin) and personal criminal liability for failure to comply with the state. contracts
    1. Aag
      +1
      31 January 2023 21: 13
      Quote: Alexander X
      All of the above costs a lot of money. Maybe it's better to give this money to Russian manufacturers? Moreover, almost all of the voiced has Russian counterparts. And in order for everything to be produced quickly and in the right quantity in Russia, it is enough, in addition to funding, to establish "accounting and control" © (V. I. Lenin) and personal criminal liability for failure to comply with the state. contracts

      Russian analogues (even better coded) please voice.
  17. +8
    31 January 2023 14: 36
    The author wrote nonsense. For decades, except for the Belarusians, no one needed this. All these products are made, if not single copies, then in small series. Belarus does not have such production capacities that would produce all this in hundreds of copies per month. Belarusian enterprises are now loaded with the modernization of reactivated equipment, and the repair of equipment from the NVO zone. People work there, and they are not engaged in boltology and cutting the budget.
    1. +6
      31 January 2023 17: 47
      The author whines that the Republic of Belarus does not supply the army of the Russian Federation with everything necessary for free ... As for me, this author needs haloperedol. And so we don’t buy weapons if why on earth should the Republic of Belarus supply them to the Russian Federation?
      1. 0
        9 February 2023 08: 06
        Quote: spektr9
        The author whines that the Republic of Belarus does not supply the army of the Russian Federation with everything necessary for free ... As for me, this author needs haloperedol. And so we don’t buy weapons if why on earth should the Republic of Belarus supply them to the Russian Federation?

        Why distort? No one spoke about free
    2. yho
      -2
      2 February 2023 19: 17
      Nobody knew that our partners would deceive us (((
  18. 0
    31 January 2023 15: 55
    Flute, drones and drones with grenade launchers are a topic of course. Interestingly, they will establish production or assembly of fpv kamikaze drones there. There, the cost price will be completely cheap, cheaper than the production of a 152 mm projectile. In the Russian Federation, there are already big doubts about even ordinary quadrocopters, so we don’t even ask about fpv kamikaze ..
  19. +5
    31 January 2023 16: 33
    Belarus is in direct contact with Poland and the Baltic States, in which case the first blow will fall on Belarus. In this regard, I consider it unreasonable to weaken it and demand the supply of weapons to the NMD. I do not pretend to be an expert, I am ready for criticism.
    1. -8
      31 January 2023 17: 12
      Belarus as a whole is an absolutely unreliable ally. Will sell for a half as soon as possible. It’s just that no one in the West perceives a mustachioed yet. They will beckon with a gingerbread and run, losing his pants and will not remember about Russia.
      1. Aag
        +5
        31 January 2023 21: 30
        Quote: Ulum
        Belarus as a whole is an absolutely unreliable ally. Will sell for a half as soon as possible. It’s just that no one in the West perceives a mustachioed yet. They will beckon with a gingerbread and run, losing his pants and will not remember about Russia.

        So how did Russia do it? "Becoming friends" with the West, merging everyone - both the Allies, and stuck ... And herself?
        And now we will whimper - some of them abandoned us, others "threw" us? ...
        Will have to dig.
        And us, in part. And to our children, grandchildren - to the fullest.
        And this is with a good deal!
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  21. +6
    31 January 2023 17: 44
    The history of the military-technical potential of our neighbor raises an important question - are we with the Republic of Belarus in the same boat or are we in different boats? This question sounds especially loud if you count how many billions Russia has invested in the independence and good location of the leadership of the neighboring republic.

    Our urya-"patriots" are completely hit on the head. We need equipment from the Republic of Belarus and China, let the respected guarantor of the GDP sign a supply agreement, pay for the weapons and it will flow into the Russian army ... No, the author expects that China and the Republic of Belarus will seem to supply our army for free, like Europe and the United States the army of Ukraine, not it will be like this....
    If there are claims on specific contracts, then the contracts to the studio
    1. +1
      31 January 2023 22: 32
      As far as I understand, the problem of the Russian Federation is not the availability of money. The problem is to produce a lot (drastically more) in factories that cannot do so much. Therefore, you can buy. We already buy MZKT, why not buy MCI?
  22. +4
    31 January 2023 18: 24
    Belarus is a former assembly shop of the USSR with a significant amount of skilled labor. In preserving the industrial potential, of course, the great merit of the "Father". For all his shortcomings, he is undoubtedly an outstanding person and the only reliable ally of Russia at the present time. It is a pity that the military-industrial complex of Belarus is not used to its fullest. This is either another thoughtlessness or another betrayal.
  23. +1
    31 January 2023 22: 29
    You can start with the banal: according to rumors, we do not have enough armored vehicles and off-road vehicles. Why not buy them from the Old Man? BRDM and Volat (4x4,6x6,8x8), complete immediately with anti-tank systems. The armored personnel carrier is not bad, but there is a Chinese MTO (but you can use them in the border areas of the Belgorod region). We have a strange relationship with supplies.
  24. +2
    31 January 2023 23: 28
    Quote: Dead Day



    ....... - maybe the Belarusians cannot understand in any way - why is Russia "throwing" money (oligarchs, American and European banks) to the west of the Mountains, instead of buying modern weapons ...?
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    2. yho
      -2
      2 February 2023 19: 14
      There is no money - 300 billion dollars have been stolen from us.
      1. 0
        3 February 2023 19: 55
        Quote from Yoho
        There is no money - 300 billion dollars have been stolen from us.

        Stole? Do you believe in it?
        Try to steal one dollar from our dear state... Let's see what happens...
  25. +1
    31 January 2023 23: 45
    Quote from usm5
    Belarus is a former assembly shop of the USSR with a significant amount of skilled labor. In preserving the industrial potential, of course, the great merit of the "Father". For all his shortcomings, he is undoubtedly an outstanding person and the only reliable ally of Russia at the present time. It is a pity that the military-industrial complex of Belarus is not used to its fullest. This is either another thoughtlessness or another betrayal.


    ...... - this is a healthy calculation ... Belarusians every ruble counts ...
  26. ASM
    +1
    31 January 2023 23: 50
    Dumb article. Belarusians are now preparing for the next (what already) time to divide the Poles. And our cars are removed from storage, commissioned and sent to fight.
  27. +1
    1 February 2023 00: 18
    Quote: AAG
    Quote from Voronezh
    As always with our friends, the game is one way.... There is free and there is not even an echo from there....

    Why such beliefs, views?
    Under the influence of our propaganda - ists? So they "changed their shoes" more than once to please ... I don't know who repeatedly.
    Try to remember last year's March sayings of TV - "experts" - they say, they will enter (offensive, actions of the RF Armed Forces) into the anals of all military academies in the world!
    Yes, it looks like it will. Just as a negative example...
    Further. Sivkov about "half rings", "horseshoes" of a semicircle ... Nonsense.
    Personally, I became anxious when the Supreme High Command, under the cameras, squeezed out of Naryshkin consent to conduct an NWO.
    ... Many then in the comments here, on "VO", noted ...
    Another thing worried me: our intelligence did not bring the true state of affairs to the top leadership (couldn’t, didn’t want to?); or her (intelligence) opinion was ignored) ?!
    Why? For what? For whom?!...
    hi


    ..... - and also, maybe - the opinion of intelligence was of no interest to anyone ... And they decided to conduct Reconnaissance in Battle ...
  28. 0
    1 February 2023 00: 42
    Quote: epicurean



    .... - and therefore, right now, it is necessary to do a realistic comparative analysis ... otherwise, later, "over the holidays" - there will again be no time .... And in the General Staff - to allocate a "unit" for this.
  29. 0
    1 February 2023 00: 58
    Quote: AAG
    Quote: Repellent
    Quote: lis-ik
    and then I bought it, resold it and everything is in openwork

    Personal experience? food speculator laughing

    Here's the Truth, - I can't understand, - What are you advocating, worrying about, ... what do you want? What are you upholding...
    I will try to put the question differently: what kind of future would you like to see; what do you really count on?
    I'm sorry if I touched on an intimate... hi


    ..... - yes, everything is simple ...
  30. 0
    1 February 2023 09: 04
    Well, it’s probably at least better to pay Belarusians than Iran.
  31. yho
    -1
    2 February 2023 19: 12
    They would give the captured Javelins to the Belarusians. I am sure that they could make analogues, people are brainy.
    1. +1
      2 February 2023 23: 04
      So they gave it to us, and also NLAW and Panzerfaust-3 from above. In the fall, it was all shown on TV.

  32. 0
    2 February 2023 23: 51
    To set up the production of hornets, or maybe it’s easier to set up the production of remote consoles for the cornet, the more it is developed, it seems that they were even produced a little when the order was sent, I don’t remember exactly, it seems to be to the Saudis.
    But there has never been mass production, it’s easier to produce tablets than to train people in new weapons in the middle of a campaign ... And I won’t be surprised that the tablets on the hornet are the same ones that the Belarusians, commissioned by the Tula people, developed for the cornet.
  33. 0
    4 February 2023 16: 33
    You read what we have, we ourselves in Russia during the NWO close and sell repair plants, the question arises, but in Russia itself how many boats are sailing in different directions. In order for the equipment for the SVO to be manufactured in the Republic of Belarus, you probably need to order it there, but did we order it ?.
  34. 0
    9 February 2023 12: 51
    Debt good turn deserves another. For oil and gas, S-300 and S-400, and other gifts from Russia, it would be time for Belarusians to send some return goods to the Russians. And then everything is up to sebe and up to sebe.
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    9 February 2023 22: 50
    Buy, buy, buy. Do not be greedy - we ourselves have a mustache.

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