Speaker of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine: Ukraine needs not 24 fighters, but about 180

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Speaker of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine: Ukraine needs not 24 fighters, but about 180

The speaker of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Yuriy Ignat, on the air of the telethon, denied the information published by the Spanish newspaper El Pais that Ukraine wants to receive only 24 fighters from the West. Earlier, the publication cited such a figure for Kyiv's request to NATO stars regarding the supply of F-16 fighters, or at least European ones, referring to the statement of Ignat himself.

The speaker of the Supreme Court explained the appearance of such information by the fact that the journalists misunderstood him and mistranslated his words. In addition, Ignat emphasized that such sensitive information should be disseminated very carefully, because partners do not like it when "something wishful thinking is given out."



Therefore, the speaker continued, it would be right to ask the allies not for 24 fighters, but for about 180. Apparently, such a figure, in Ignat's understanding, will not be “sensitive” for partners.

We do not need 24 aircraft, but at least five full-fledged brigades, and each brigade has three squadrons. This will be the number of aircraft that can really protect the airspace along with air defense for Ukraine

- the speaker of the SC dispersed.

Where, by whom and how such a number of complex combat aircraft will be located, when, according to Ignat himself, only civilian airfields remained in operation in Ukraine, the speaker did not explain.

Further speaking about the effectiveness of the existing Ukrainian air defense, Ignat said that with the existing air defense systems, Ukraine is not capable of shooting down Russian ballistic missiles. Therefore, the Patriot and SAMP-T anti-aircraft systems are urgently needed. Another strange statement, because according to the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, after each missile attack by the RF Armed Forces, Ukrainian anti-aircraft gunners shoot down almost all Russian shells.

Even better, the speaker continued, is to destroy Russian ballistic missiles at the start. For this, fighters and strikers are just needed. Drones, which could eliminate rocket launchers at a great distance.

It is better to have a "long arm", reach enemy positions and destroy directly at the installation site that launch missiles

- Ignat fantasized.

He recalled that this is already being done in eastern Ukraine, where HARM anti-radar missiles adapted for Ukrainian fighters are used, but only at a short distance.

I wonder how many aircraft and other weapons will be requested by the speaker of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, or another Kyiv herald, already tomorrow? After all, appetite, as you know, comes with eating.
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  1. +11
    28 January 2023 20: 02
    Why should they add one more zero. In general, in the American desert, there will be fuselages for two zeros to 180
    1. +2
      28 January 2023 20: 15
      Why so modestly, ask for 1800 pieces at once, and suddenly at least 24 will be scraped together ...
      1. +2
        28 January 2023 21: 21
        After all, appetite, as you know, comes with eating.

        We need to feed them with missile strikes, preferably at Kuev.
      2. -1
        28 January 2023 22: 13
        These are arrogant Ukrainians! They have a farm motto: "Ask for more, and there they will give you how much."
      3. -2
        28 January 2023 22: 17
        Quote: Alexander Ivanov_11
        Why so modestly, ask for 1800 pieces at once, and suddenly at least 24 will be scraped together ...

        Lip rolled right up to the floor these dill .. Sassy to the very bottom .. Greedy and impudent. This will destroy them..
        1. 0
          29 January 2023 09: 34
          Quote: 30 vis
          dill .. Sassy to the very bottom .. Greedy and impudent. This will destroy them..

          Vish, the Jewish Bandera tribe is minus. Does it hurt your eyes? Really don't like it? So Bandera?
    2. -1
      28 January 2023 20: 16
      And three zeros will be typed, otherwise Ignat will not have enough of this? As they say, impudence is the second happiness.
    3. 0
      29 January 2023 03: 45
      Quote from: dmi.pris1
      In general, in the American desert, there will be fuselages and two zeros to 180


      everything lying around needs a real repair, which takes time, space and specialists. And these very specialists and places are loaded with production orders for the F-35.
    4. -1
      29 January 2023 11: 00
      I think they will deliver 180 and 1800 is only a matter of time.
  2. +8
    28 January 2023 20: 11
    And you also need three tape recorders, three foreign film cameras, three domestic cigarette cases, a suede jacket.
    1. 0
      29 January 2023 10: 36
      Quote: polpot
      And you also need three tape recorders, three foreign film cameras, three domestic cigarette cases, a suede jacket.

      Three ..... jackets.
  3. +14
    28 January 2023 20: 16
    Of course, you can make jokes, only tanks also seemed like a fantasy for Ukraine, but wait.
    1. -5
      28 January 2023 21: 24
      Are you or our Fighters that are afraid of these Abrams? Yes, they burn like candles from our Muslim brothers in Yemen and Syria ...
      1. -6
        28 January 2023 21: 32
        Quote: Alexander Ivanov_11
        Are you or our Fighters that are afraid of these Abrams? Yes, they burn like candles from our Muslim brothers in Yemen and Syria ...


        I see an expert. In Syria, the Abrams are at most American bases, and in Yemen, 90% of the losses are abandoned Saudi tanks burned by the Houthis, and not their destruction by weapons.
        1. 0
          28 January 2023 21: 39
          Do you see videos on the Internet and are you blind?
          1. -12
            28 January 2023 21: 41
            Quote: Alexander Ivanov_11
            Do you see videos on the Internet and are you blind?


            I saw that sometimes they didn’t even break through the board.
            1. -2
              28 January 2023 22: 53
              I saw that sometimes they didn’t even break through the board.
              pralna .. but because the Cornet usually hits the tower .. therefore, from the Abrams and Leo there are beautiful fountains and the sides are intact
              1. -7
                28 January 2023 23: 06
                Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                I saw that sometimes they didn’t even break through the board.
                pralna .. but because the Cornet usually hits the tower .. therefore, from the Abrams and Leo there are beautiful fountains and the sides are intact

                Where is the defeat in the tower?
        2. +4
          28 January 2023 22: 15
          Pourquoi abandonner des chars, qui valent une petite fortune, si ils ne sont pas endommagés ou en panne?
          Des Chars Saoudien je doute que leur panne soit une panne ...d'essence ! :-)

          Why give up tanks that are worth a small fortune if they are not damaged and out of action?
          Saudi tanks, I doubt that their failure is due to a lack of ... gasoline! :-)
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          2. -7
            28 January 2023 22: 25
            Quote from Yanni Kounnar
            Pourquoi abandonner des chars, qui valent une petite fortune, si ils ne sont pas endommagés ou en panne?
            Des Chars Saoudien je doute que leur panne soit une panne ...d'essence ! :-)

            Why give up tanks that are worth a small fortune if they are not damaged and out of action?
            Saudi tanks, I doubt that their failure is due to a lack of ... gasoline! :-)


            0
            Ils n'ont pas de pieces de rechange. Les Houthis ont brûlé tout équipement, laissant parfois des VB
          3. +1
            28 January 2023 22: 31
            Quote from Yanni Kounnar
            Pourquoi abandonner des chars, qui valent une petite fortune, si ils ne sont pas endommagés ou en panne?
            Des Chars Saoudien je doute que leur panne soit une panne ...d'essence ! :-)

            Why give up tanks that are worth a small fortune if they are not damaged and out of action?
            Saudi tanks, I doubt that their failure is due to a lack of ... gasoline! :-)

            A normal engine of a combat vehicle should run on any combustible garbage - pour gasoline into the tank with working out and an hour or two of engine operation is enough for the last attack. But, regularly and preserving the resource, the engine must operate on the fuel and technical fluids intended for it. And the seals must be of good quality.
            1. 0
              29 January 2023 05: 50
              The abrashka has a gas turbine engine. And it can only work on aviation kerosene. Unlike our T 80s. The appetites of such engines are exorbitant and this is their main trouble. You don’t have to knock them out, the main thing is to knock out the tanker. Which follows him laughing
              1. 0
                29 January 2023 17: 22
                "Our T-80s" initially also had a gas turbine engine, like the Abrams. And they consume a lot of fuel, but any, if only it was liquid, not solid.
                1. 0
                  29 January 2023 18: 16
                  Our gas turbine engines are omnivorous, while Abrasha only give aviation kerosene. Well, it has more mass, therefore the engine is more powerful and voracious
        3. -2
          28 January 2023 22: 34
          Dill, you will be eliminated in the NWO ...
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          2. -8
            28 January 2023 22: 39
            Quote: Alexander Ivanov_11
            Dill, you will be eliminated in the NWO ...

            I have nothing to do with Ukrainians and Russians.
        4. -4
          28 January 2023 22: 44
          Oh, you drag and Nazi from NATO Ukraine, I recognized you ...
          1. -4
            28 January 2023 22: 52
            Quote: Alexander Ivanov_11
            Oh, you drag and Nazi from NATO Ukraine, I recognized you ...

            Ukraine is not in NATO and no, my mother is not from there.
        5. -4
          28 January 2023 23: 00
          And the abandoned ones? And why don't they throw our tanks at the Great Fighters in Ukraine?
          1. -3
            28 January 2023 23: 03
            Quote: Alexander Ivanov_11
            And the abandoned ones? And why don't they throw our tanks at the Great Fighters in Ukraine?

            They left a bunch of T-62,72,80,90.
            1. 0
              29 January 2023 00: 22
              Quote from Stella Haddad
              Quote: Alexander Ivanov_11
              And the abandoned ones? And why don't they throw our tanks at the Great Fighters in Ukraine?

              They left a bunch of T-62,72,80,90.

              Lack of logistics and understanding of the emotional state. Everything happens, everything will be and everything is fine.
      2. -8
        28 January 2023 21: 44
        That only Galkin and Pugacheva read me and there will be no support for our Great Special Operation - shame?
        1. -5
          28 January 2023 22: 51
          Who is minus these Galkins and Pugachevs who are millions? You are not ashamed, but where are the rest of the patriots of Great Russia?
    2. 0
      29 January 2023 11: 01
      This is just the start of deliveries, more coming soon.
    3. 0
      29 January 2023 14: 41
      Quote: Murmur 55
      Of course, you can make jokes, only tanks also seemed like a fantasy for Ukraine, but wait.

      When was the supply of tanks to Ukraine a fantasy!?
      Deliveries of tanks to Ukraine went almost from the first day of the NWO.
      First covertly by the authorities of Poland, then openly by everyone.
      First, Soviet equipment was supplied, because it was more convenient for Ukraine to use it. Then, when the stocks of Soviet equipment ran out, the question naturally arose about the supply of various Leopards.
      And I wonder why the supply of Leopards and Abrams is regarded as some kind of significant important event!
      What is the difference between deliveries of hundreds of Polish T-72s and hundreds of let's say Leopards?
      Yes, none. The deliveries of tanks just continue, and even the number of these deliveries seems to be decreasing.
      1. -1
        29 January 2023 18: 34
        The difference between Soviet tanks and Western ones is fundamental.
        The number of Soviet tanks and ammunition for them in the world is limited, while the number of Western ones is unlimited. This is even more important than the difference in combat capability.
        1. 0
          29 January 2023 19: 17
          Quote: Skeptik3
          and Western ones are limitless.

          This is an illusion.
          Remember what a huge number of different javelins, nlavs, etc. were delivered. And where are they?
          The usual videos in the last month on telegram channels have become episodes when our tanks / infantry fighting vehicles drive up to the Ukrainian trench and almost put their muzzles into it, shooting the enemy at close range. And the Ukrainians have nothing to answer. Almost everything that was delivered to them (having devastated NATO's warehouses), the Ukrainians used / sowed. And the current production does not even come close to meeting the needs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
          Tanks will be even worse. Tanks are hundreds of times more complicated than a grenade launcher, and it is impossible to dramatically increase the production of tanks (within a reasonable time). And there are not so many free tanks that can be painlessly transferred to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
          1. -1
            29 January 2023 19: 20
            In extreme videos, in general, you rarely see a technique. We fight with infantry. Our tanks are generally a rare beast on the LBS.
          2. -3
            29 January 2023 20: 41
            Episodes have become regular videos in the last month on telegram channels


            Judging by individual videos - you can think of anything you want. In reality, wearable anti-tank weapons are included in every aid package, i.e. deliveries are continuous.
            The military-industrial complex of the West can increase production exponentially if the need arises, as they did during WWII. Watch the latest interview with the head of Rheinmetall.
            1. 0
              31 January 2023 05: 56
              Quote: Skeptik3
              The military-industrial complex of the West can increase production exponentially

              In order to increase production, it is necessary to have sufficient / excess production capacity. And what about in the West with these capacities?
              Production of tanks for 2022 Great Britain 0 pcs, USA 0 pcs (overhaul and modernization of the old one is carried out at 12 pcs per month), Germany 0 pcs, France 0 pcs.
              Where is the production here?
              Expensive piece exclusive and not even every year!
              1. -2
                31 January 2023 08: 11
                You have now described the peacetime economy of the West. And quite rightly they drew attention to the fact that militarism is alien to Western countries. However, the economy can be rebuilt. As an example, compare the output of military products in the United States in 1940 and in 1944.
                1. 0
                  31 January 2023 13: 23
                  Militarism is alien to Western countries? How many military bases around the world does the United States alone have (more than any state in the world), remind me? Do you know who has the largest military budget in the world? Oh, the United States again! For some reason, the United States is declared a zone of their interests, and it doesn’t matter which end of the Earth they are on? Again the United States? Is militarism alien to the Americans, or their accomplices?
  4. +6
    28 January 2023 20: 20
    I wonder how many aircraft and other weapons will be requested by the speaker of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, or another Kyiv herald, already tomorrow? After all, appetite, as you know, comes with eating.


    Correct the author: ukrov after using cocaine.
  5. +10
    28 January 2023 20: 25
    with our approach to NWO .. I won’t be surprised if Ukrainians have ICBMs and aircraft carriers. it's time to get tougher and use the entire arsenal of our weapons. there are no brothers! from the word at all! I have not heard of partisans in the rear, resistance movements, etc.
    1. +1
      28 January 2023 20: 31
      Quote: Boris Ivanov
      there are no brothers! from the word at all! I have not heard of partisans in the rear, resistance movements, etc.


      There seems to be something in Nikolaev. If this is not the fantasy of the authors of VO.
      1. -1
        28 January 2023 22: 20
        Quote: Carat
        There seems to be something in Nikolaev. If this is not the fantasy of the authors of VO.

        I also read it on TG ... We saw a couple of Leopards .. on trailers ...
    2. -3
      28 January 2023 20: 37
      Quote: Boris Ivanov
      with our approach to NWO .. I won’t be surprised if Ukrainians have ICBMs and aircraft carriers. it's time to get tougher and use the entire arsenal of our weapons. there are no brothers! from the word at all! I have not heard of partisans in the rear, resistance movements, etc.


      And who told you that now they are not acting tough?
      . a number of pravdorubov, moreover, from convinced Bandera, believe that the three hundred expected "Leopards" will be enough for the Armed Forces of Ukraine only for a month of real battles (like, they can be sent to a quiet place, for example, to Kyiv). Then the US will push through the new supply. And so it will be until the German "cats" run out, as was the case with the Soviet tank legacy of the former Warsaw block. The fact is that Western observers and bloggers, including the aforementioned RMOD and VT, have calculated the losses of military equipment from December 1, 2022 to January 25, 2023, based on video and photo proofs, as well as statements coming out from independent military sources. .... So, ukrovermacht lost in 2 incomplete months:

      731 armored vehicles, including tanks and infantry fighting vehicles;
      252 guns, including 38 M777, as well as 11 KRAB, 6 CAESAR;
      87 MLRS installations, of which 11 are Khaimarsy;
      59 expensive counter-battery radars.

      These reports, by the way, are consistent with the data of our sources.

      https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/360442/
    3. -8
      28 January 2023 21: 21
      Quote: Boris Ivanov
      with our approach to NWO .. I won’t be surprised if Ukrainians have ICBMs and aircraft carriers. it's time to get tougher and use the entire arsenal of our weapons. there are no brothers! from the word at all! I have not heard of partisans in the rear, resistance movements, etc.

      I completely agree with you with the bold type I highlighted !!! good drinks
      And the second part of your post directly contradicts the words of YOURSELF!!! Putin-that we are just two fraternal peoples and there are no Ukrainians!!! tongue You be careful with your words, sit down for 5 years for dissketting the President - now it’s easier than spitting at the ceiling while lying on the stove)))) this is my good advice to you !!! drinks
      1. -6
        28 January 2023 21: 40
        Tek-s... dedicated to my minusers love
        Yes, even two weeks ago, I could not imagine that the cips from Ukraine and the Zaputins from Russia "merge in a single kiss" minus me for any truth laughing feel belay
        I said, I say and I will say - Russia = the rule of law (well, until the Laws are repealed) and we are writing here on the basis of the Laws of the Russian Federation - and for each post we can either pay a fine, or sit down for several years in "places not so remote" laughing wink We're under media law crying
        And yes - there is a "law enforcement practice" - they are already imprisoned in prison just for like or minus in my posts - yes, in posts in general))) I warned you - you are now armed (c) ala Suvorov winked
    4. +4
      28 January 2023 21: 25
      There should be not partisans, but spies somewhere near major transport lines where weapons are being driven. So that a Velcro beacon is dropped from the Mavik onto a passing tank, and so that where the trucker then slows down for a smoke break, the Iskanders will hit it with cassettes. So that where Ukrainian tankers are being trained, a radio-controlled car with an anti-tank mine drove under the bus. Or that shells will be ordered somewhere in the Czech Republic, and one shell will be with a surprise - with a GPS sensor and a phone with a paid SIM card. And so that somewhere, when passing through a European town, suddenly there was a bang and smoke, well, with casualties and destruction. Then let the scholtsy tell the population how it happened. And then we probably have intelligence on financing, but according to the results, it’s as if it doesn’t exist, Rybar, one for all, takes the rap on a voluntary basis
      1. 0
        29 January 2023 10: 44
        We do not have spies, but scouts. But the partisans will not interfere either.
    5. 0
      28 January 2023 21: 35
      There are no more brothers there. The bulk are sycophants and opportunists. This is the farmer mentality. Without pan, they can do nothing.
  6. +6
    28 January 2023 20: 29
    laughing
    Euroterpi-ils! Did you understand why you can’t give Zapukram anything for free? In Russian - thank you, but in German - danke, in Urkovski - little
  7. +8
    28 January 2023 20: 29
    Therefore, the speaker continued, it would be right to ask the Allies not for 24 fighters, but about 180.


    Horses will undress everyone ...
  8. +6
    28 January 2023 20: 35
    Britain has more than a hundred decommissioned Tornadoes, France has several dozen decommissioned Mirage-2000s, you can give away the Eurofighter Tranche 1, everything depends on political will. Also, several dozen F-16,18s are scraped together, which are decommissioned by European armies.
    1. +6
      28 January 2023 20: 58
      As a technical specialist, I can say that the commissioning (not even decommissioned equipment, but for storage) takes a lot of time and money.
      1. +3
        28 January 2023 21: 07
        Quote: agoran
        As a technical specialist, I can say that the commissioning (not even decommissioned equipment, but for storage) takes a lot of time and money.

        I did not say that you can instantly put them into operation. France only last year began to massively shoot the Mirage-2000, Britain in 2019. There are also all sorts of combat training L-39NG, L-159 ALCA, BAE Hawk, M-345, M-346 Master, which are produced and can saturate the Ukrainian Air Force . There is also a reserve in the form of Soviet MiG-29s, Su-25s, you can give away the same AMXs - they have almost no value. So Ignat's dreams can come true

        Typhoon Tranche 1 is still in service with the UK, but she wants to get rid of them and offers them to Egypt, Turkey.
        1. +1
          28 January 2023 21: 31
          There the problem will be not so much in flying trash, but in pilots. There, on February 28, a Russian IL-76 was shot down over Kropyvnytskyi, and the pilot was given a hero of Ukraine for an instant-29 on the same evening, even the Americans boasted of what great fellows they were and helped the Ukrainians fill up a whole transporter with Russian armored cavalry Buryat commandos who wanted to land hundreds of kilometers from advanced. Well, then they said that a Ukrainian pilot on a Su-27 heroically died in that battle. They will put at the controls of no less heroic heroes who will knock each other down and bomb on their own, rather they will have to write out suicide bombers from behind the hillock
          1. -6
            29 January 2023 00: 32
            In that battle, the MiG-29 of the Armed Forces of Ukraine shot down its own Su-27, mistaking it for our Il-76 with troops.
            Another Su-27 was shot down and crashed over Kyiv with its own S-300.
            Another Su-27 was shot down by its own MANPADS near Orekhovo in the summer.
            A few more losses of these machines also have their own air defense or piloting errors, failures of the CDS.

            There are approximately 27-4 Su-6s actually shot down by our means.
            So 60-65% of their fleet still remains.
    2. 0
      28 January 2023 21: 27
      Quote from Stella Haddad
      Also, several dozen F-16,18s are scraped together, which are decommissioned by European armies.

      Who will manage all this and prepare for departures. Pilot training is a long and very expensive business. Let's see.
      1. +1
        28 January 2023 21: 34
        Quote: Vasia
        Quote from Stella Haddad
        Also, several dozen F-16,18s are scraped together, which are decommissioned by European armies.

        Who will manage all this and prepare for departures. Pilot training is a long and very expensive business. Let's see.


        Mercenaries. In principle, the Ukrainians themselves will be able to do combat training.
    3. 0
      28 January 2023 21: 59
      And what condition are they in? Are there spare parts for them? Are there any other pilots who flew for them. The Americans have long wanted to pass on the obsolete warthog. But the Ukrainians refused, demanding more modern aircraft.
      1. -2
        28 January 2023 22: 07
        Quote: Sergey T19
        And what condition are they in? Are there spare parts for them? Are there any other pilots who flew for them. The Americans have long wanted to pass on the obsolete warthog. But the Ukrainians refused, demanding more modern aircraft.


        There are spare parts for Tornado and Mirage 2000, especially for the F-16,18, the market is full of them. A-10 is a very good option, but only as an additional "gift" to fighters.
        As for the AMX, it is not particularly remarkable, but it is perfectly suited for land strikes.
  9. +7
    28 January 2023 20: 38
    Listen. I am now sure that the old woman in Pushkin's fairy tale about the goldfish is a fairy tale about the Ukrainian junta. First javelins, then hymers, then leopards, and then they want the US on their packages.
    1. avg
      +1
      28 January 2023 23: 48
      Well, so far they are limited only to "liver sausage", but the beginning is the worst of it.
  10. +1
    28 January 2023 20: 46
    We do not need 24 aircraft, but at least five full-fledged brigades, and each brigade has three squadrons.

    Yes, little things Gnat, ask for all the US planes at once, but together with pilots, workshops, and in general, let the states and aircraft factories be transported to the Ruin, Russia will come in handy.
    From boorish ragulya!
  11. +4
    28 January 2023 21: 03
    They will be serviced at the airfields of Poland and Three Bolts - greetings from Yeltsin and Humpbacked.
    But they will.
    1. +2
      28 January 2023 21: 09
      In Poland, yes it is possible. In the Baltics, it is very doubtful.
      1. +1
        28 January 2023 21: 37
        Quote: agoran
        In Poland, yes it is possible. In the Baltics, it is very doubtful.

        Romania has air bases and a government with "weak social responsibility"...
        57th, 71st, 86th, 90th, 95th - active
        93rd - reserve
        Not all of these bases are near the Romania-Ukraine border, but for aviation they are quite achievable for flights to the runway in Ukraine.
        sad
  12. -1
    28 January 2023 21: 07
    Ukraine needs not 24 fighters, but about 180
    so what's up, BUY what a passion for a freebie
    1. 0
      28 January 2023 21: 17
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      Ukraine needs not 24 fighters, but about 180
      so what's up, BUY what a passion for a freebie

      They only have enough money for JAS-39 or J-10, JF-17. But China will not sell to Ukraine, and it is not clear what is happening with Sweden. Asking Taiwan or India for their planes is also futile
  13. +3
    28 January 2023 21: 09
    And they will. Two hundred pieces will be collected and given. Not immediately, not the same, not new, but they will. Take hahol, fight, I'll make new ones for myself! I'm thinking, when will they reach the vigorous bonba? And it's coming to this.
    1. -2
      29 January 2023 00: 36
      The last one is no joke.
      And the Netherlands give this technique.
      And they have this regular carrier of tactical nuclear weapons, this F-16.
      B61 bombs that are stored there.
      1. -2
        29 January 2023 00: 49
        Quote: Osipov9391
        they have this regular carrier of tactical nuclear weapons, this F-16. Bombs B61 which are stored there

        Hosspidya ... well, what are you, Khokhls, stupid all the same ... that's really - "a fool with a thought" ...

        Well, they gave you a vigorous bomb. You rubbed her in your hands, admired ... and smacked her, but why not smear?
        And the answer flew ... where? Do you think to you? Yes, heck, you gave up ... The answer flew where it was supposed to - over a puddle ...
        Do your striped-eared sponsors need it? Absolutely not. That's why you won't get vigorous bonbas. Dream on.
  14. +1
    28 January 2023 21: 13
    Demand, old Biden will give you a nuclear submarine with an aircraft carrier
  15. fiv
    0
    28 January 2023 21: 31
    I don’t want to be a pillar noblewoman, but I want to be the queen of the sea. It has already happened, it is only necessary not to ban Russian literature
  16. +2
    28 January 2023 21: 34
    donnes! Donnes!! DONNEZ!!! DONATE !!!!
    Mais pourquoi donner? Ou est passé tout votre équipement militaire accumulé depuis 9 ans ?
    Quoi? Les Russes vous auraient détruit plus de matériel que ce que... vous dites!?

    yandex
    give! give ! Give! give !! Give! give !!! Give! give !!!!
    But why give? Where did all your military equipment accumulated over 9 years go?
    What? The Russians would destroy more of your equipment than... you say!?
    1. -1
      28 January 2023 21: 39
      [quote=YanniKounnar]donnez! Donnes!! DONNEZ!!! DONATE !!!!
      Mais pourquoi donner? Ou est passé tout votre équipement militaire accumulé depuis 9 ans ?
      Quoi? Les Russes vous auraient détruit plus de matériel que ce que... vous dites!?

      Pourquoi ne pas leur donner quelque chose lequel vous n'avez pas besoin vous-même ?
      1. +1
        28 January 2023 22: 26
        Pourquoi? Par ce que c'est alimenter une guerre, jeter de l'huile sur le feu, que chaque fourniture d'arme c'est des morts de plus des deux cotés...Voila en partie pourquoi .
        Et comme le disait l'humoriste Coluche:
        "c'est interdit de fournir des armes à un pays en guerre sauf...s'il paye comptant"

        What for? By what it means to start a war, to add fuel to the fire, that each delivery of weapons is another death on both sides ... This is partly why.
        And, as the humorist Kolush said:
        "it is forbidden to supply weapons to a country at war, except ... if it pays in cash"
        1. -3
          28 January 2023 22: 41
          Quote from Yanni Kounnar
          Pourquoi? Par ce que c'est alimenter une guerre, jeter de l'huile sur le feu, que chaque fourniture d'arme c'est des morts de plus des deux cotés...Voila en partie pourquoi .
          Et comme le disait l'humoriste Coluche:
          "c'est interdit de fournir des armes à un pays en guerre sauf...s'il paye comptant"

          What for? By what it means to start a war, to add fuel to the fire, that each delivery of weapons is another death on both sides ... This is partly why.
          And, as the humorist Kolush said:
          "it is forbidden to supply weapons to a country at war, except ... if it pays in cash"


          Je ne vois aucune raison d'accepter les conditions de Moscou.
  17. 0
    28 January 2023 21: 40
    little funny ... wiped themselves with the Red lines from the Kremlin ....
    in general, you can expect strikes on M ..... with such a course of events ....
    All according to plan..
    I wonder who is leaking the information to Britham?
    1. 0
      28 January 2023 22: 44
      Quote: Vadim Voroshilov
      little funny ... they wiped themselves with the Red lines from the Kremlin.

      A corrupt oligarchy thinks like a corrupt oligarchy. It is impossible to expect informed decisions from them.
    2. -1
      29 January 2023 00: 40
      Easily.
      AGM-158. Range up to 1000 km. Might take a couple.
      Arrival in the center of Moscow during launch over Kyiv.
      If the launch is over Kharkov, it flies to Samara. About Engels even more so.

      JSOW. With the engine plans up to 500 km. When dropped over Kharkov, it will fly to Voronezh.

      Well, the use of anti-ship "Harpoons" that is already there needs no introduction.
  18. +1
    28 January 2023 21: 41
    I see that some of these planes have already been shot down by their "red lines" on the Internet. When asked who will service and arm these vehicles, I answer, those who repair and service tanks and other equipment. There are repair companies in Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia and other places. The same will happen with planes, the Poles will refuel them, arm them at their airports, pensioner Nikolai Johnson will get into the car, fly over the border with Ukraine and start it, then return. Out of range of any air defense system, and we're worried about how to shoot him down. And they have thousands of such missiles in their warehouses.
    1. 0
      29 January 2023 00: 17
      Well, it’s quite harsh to fly from Poland to the Donbass, nevertheless, the country is rather big, I’m not sure that it’s so easy at low altitude to fly to the Dnieper and return back with a serious load, but they can overtake from Belarus. Or they will fight in the direction of the same Belarus, but this is a different level of confrontation. And also prove that a Ukrainian litak took off from Poland and returned
      1. -3
        29 January 2023 00: 43
        How intermediate lanes can be used by highways or civil airports in Central Ukraine.
        Yes, and I think the band in the same Strarokonstantinov is functioning properly.
    2. -1
      29 January 2023 00: 50
      They already have "harpoons" for a long time. A couple is hung on one such plane and, like a box, they enter the Crimea from Odessa.
      They make volleys with HARMs on the awakened air defense of ships, then an attack with "Harpoons".
      And immediately go back to low heights above the sea.

      So far, Caliber carriers can be calm in those parts, but as soon as Western fighters appear, it will be dangerous there.
      We will have to move them towards Anapa, which means that the flight time of cruise missiles to Ukrainian territory will increase significantly - there are more chances to detect and intercept them from the Armed Forces of Ukraine earlier.

      AGM-158, JSOW. They don't really need an introduction. Poles or Finns can slip.
      It launches and flies far, outside the coverage areas of our air defense systems and aviation.
  19. +1
    28 January 2023 21: 42
    But huh hu not ho ho?
    I just wanted to write this. But I know, "too short and does not carry important information" ...
  20. 0
    28 January 2023 22: 50
    Newborn boys in Ukra will soon no longer be called Jagrams.
    Needles, Falcons and probably Grippens will be used ....
    Well, Apaches are a bonus ...
    Wonderland 404
  21. -1
    29 January 2023 00: 57
    They can give several hundred, even if you look for it from storage in Europe without taking into account the United States. Comes with everything you need.
    But even the 24 pieces that are planned for transfer are actually a regiment consisting of 2 squadrons.
    And this is very serious. Especially with possible strike weapons.

    As for their possible use against air targets, if this comes to pass (there is no such need yet), then our Su-25, Su-24, Su-34, helicopters, UAVs and cruise missiles will be chosen as targets.
    AIM-120 write has already been transferred to NASAMS in the amount of several hundred. And this is a serious weapon, especially the latest modifications.
  22. 0
    29 January 2023 00: 59
    The speaker of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Yuriy Ignat on the air of the telethon denied the information published by the Spanish newspaper...

    Telethons in Ukraine continue?
    Could the term "official representative" be translated into Ukrainian only as a "speaker"?
  23. 0
    29 January 2023 01: 59
    I wonder how many aircraft and other weapons will be requested by the speaker of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, or another Kyiv herald, already tomorrow? After all, appetite, as you know, comes with eating.

    Tomorrow the list will expand...
    1. 0
      29 January 2023 02: 48
      There is a lot of such equipment throughout the European Union.
      They did not cut the same F-16s into metal as we did.
      Everything was carefully stored. Not a single hundred can be found.
      The same Dutch Air Force is transferred to the F-35 and 61 F-16s are released.
      Here, count. This does not include the US.
      Airfield machines, equipment, stands, etc. will also be given.
  24. +3
    29 January 2023 03: 11
    Further speaking about the effectiveness of the existing Ukrainian air defense, Ignat said that with the existing air defense systems, Ukraine is not capable of shooting down Russian ballistic missiles. Therefore, the Patriot and SAMP-T anti-aircraft systems are urgently needed. Another strange statement, because according to the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, after each missile attack by the RF Armed Forces, Ukrainian anti-aircraft gunners shoot down almost all Russian shells.

    No need to overdo it. He's talking about ballistic missiles. I mean Iskander.
    "They" did not say about the downed Iskanders.
    They claim to shoot down calibers and geraniums on a regular basis.
    They say about the Iskanders that they are about to run out.
    1. -1
      29 January 2023 13: 18
      There was news about the defeat of the Iskander-K missiles. In terms of design, I think it does not differ much from the "Caliber".
      And so "Iskander" is 2 types of missiles. Ballistics and winged.
      The latter probably shot down, there is a photo of electronics wreckage from English-language resources.
      It looks like a radio altimeter, probably it is.
  25. 0
    29 January 2023 03: 40
    We do not need 24 aircraft, but at least five full-fledged brigades, and each brigade has three squadrons. This will be the number of aircraft that can really protect the airspace along with air defense for Ukraine


    nothing surprising, Ukraine has always believed and still believes that the stocks of any weapon in the West are endless. Considering that Ukraine has already lost more than 350 aircraft, the Wishlist of 180 pieces from the Armed Forces of Ukraine does not look so fantastic.
    1. +1
      29 January 2023 13: 22
      This is about WHAT more than 350 aircraft are you talking about? From TV?
      There was not even 100 in flying condition a year ago.
      And now half of that number, or in the region of that, has remained - up to fifty aircraft.

      And apart from a few Macedonian "Rooks" and ex-Afghan Mi-17s, no one gave them any equipment of this kind - it does not exist in nature!
      Yes, and in such quantity.
  26. +1
    29 January 2023 04: 35
    I wonder why not 200, not 300, not 180, but about 180.
  27. 0
    29 January 2023 05: 16
    Uncle, give me a light, otherwise you want to eat so much that there is nowhere to spend the night.
  28. 0
    29 January 2023 05: 54
    And why are civilian airfields still working. They need to be crushed urgently.
  29. 0
    29 January 2023 10: 09
    Ukraine resembles a boy from a joke - Okay, ancestor. Send a chirp to the disco, and get moving, old xxxxx.
  30. -1
    29 January 2023 11: 03
    I think it’s better to ask not for 180, but for 1800 at once. Of course, they will be given some equipment: the war to the last Ukrainian must continue for the sake of the interests of the West!
  31. 0
    29 January 2023 11: 09
    Quote: Osipov9391
    There is a lot of such equipment throughout the European Union.
    They did not cut the same F-16s into metal as we did.
    Everything was carefully stored. Not a single hundred can be found.
    The same Dutch Air Force is transferred to the F-35 and 61 F-16s are released.
    Here, count. This does not include the US.
    Airfield machines, equipment, stands, etc. will also be given.

    And how long will this rubbish fly?
    1. 0
      29 January 2023 13: 24
      It all depends on the rest of the resource and the training of personnel, both flight and ground.
      That's all.
      These planes are a terrible thing considering their armament.
  32. +2
    29 January 2023 11: 50
    Quote: Murmur 55
    Of course, you can make jokes, only tanks also seemed like a fantasy for Ukraine, but wait.

    Really! drinks
  33. +1
    29 January 2023 15: 55
    well, that's not enough! Well, a couple more trillion would be asked! and how little, very little!
  34. 0
    30 January 2023 08: 47
    But they will, the conflict has practically turned into a direct confrontation.
    We need corpses, but rather captured soldiers of H'A'T'O
    1. -1
      30 January 2023 08: 55
      To fight with NATO soldiers, you must first reach the Polish border. Don't say gop...

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