Kyiv has requested 24 F-16 fighters as part of the new NATO military assistance

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Kyiv has requested 24 F-16 fighters as part of the new NATO military assistance

Inspired by a breakthrough solution for the supply of heavy tanks, the Kyiv authorities decided not to waste time on trifles and asked NATO countries to immediately supply 24 F-16 multifunctional fighters as part of the first batch of new military assistance. The intention to beg combat aircraft from the Western allies, with reference to the official representative of the command of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Yuri Ignat, was reported by the Spanish newspaper El Pais.

In addition to American fighters, Kyiv is considering the option of obtaining Swedish Gripen and French Rafale aircraft, but the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine considers the F-16 a higher priority. According to Ignat, even if the Western allies agree to send fighters, their combat use can begin no earlier than six months later. So much time, according to the representative of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, will be required to train Ukrainian pilots.



Ukraine also counts on assistance in the construction of modern military airfields and ensuring their safety. Earlier, Britain's Joint Royal Institute for Security and Defense Research doubted that these plans could be carried out during the ongoing military campaign. However, Ignat stressed that secret bases are already being created in the country, and civilian airports can be used for military purposes.

At the same time, the representative of the Ukrainian Armed Forces for some reason forgot to add that in this case, civilian airfields would become a legitimate target for the RF Armed Forces.
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  1. -4
    28 January 2023 14: 18
    I wonder how local patriots on the payroll will comment on this news?
    1. -5
      28 January 2023 14: 28
      Quote: Vladimir80
      I wonder how local patriots on the payroll will comment on this news?


      They will say that your comment is insane. wassat
    2. +2
      28 January 2023 14: 34
      Quote: Vladimir80
      I wonder how this news will be commented local patriots on the payroll?

      Can you speak a local retired patriot? Do not raise tantrums, nothing else, it has not arrived anywhere and has not arrived (not tanks, not planes). Problems are solved as they come up. In general, this was expected, they declared war on us and in the war they fight with what they have. We'll take a look next. So don't be afraid, we still have 90 seconds to make it to the Canadian border.
      1. +6
        28 January 2023 15: 05
        Problems are solved as they come up. And they should be decided when the risks of their receipt appear.
        Preventing a fire from all sides is more profitable than extinguishing it.
      2. +3
        28 January 2023 15: 15
        Let me disagree with you. Problems must be solved before they appear on the battlefield. But we still have problems with this. "We haven't started yet." When will we start? The guarantor is silent. But the students now know that he has the 4th grade carpenter's crusts.
      3. +6
        28 January 2023 15: 18
        Problems are solved as they come up

        This is tantamount to a war of attrition, with its continuous escalation by the West. Are we able to pull it, especially alone? The economy of the states in the war is getting fat, the flywheel of the military industry is spinning.
        1. +1
          28 January 2023 20: 21
          hmm, perhaps I'll put a bottle or equivalent - the planes will be before the end of the year.
      4. +3
        28 January 2023 16: 23
        The issue with tanks and everything else was resolved a long time ago, even before the start of the NWO. Payments to lobbying structures in Europe took a few more years before the start of the NWO. The entire political elite of Europe is bought up to zero! This is Putin plans for the day writes. States are planning everything for decades to come. And in order to defeat the States, you need to plan better and shift the planning horizon even further. Who will do it? Putin? Why hasn't he done something like this before? So no one. There is no chance for Putin to achieve at least some success in Ukraine.
    3. +9
      28 January 2023 15: 04
      Tell me, please, where can I earn extra money on patriotic comments, the atom is tired of eating bark and hedgehogs, I want caviar and pancakes ...
      1. +3
        28 January 2023 15: 52
        Sergei Timofeevich, I gave you a plus, from abroad.
        Reminds me of a joke: "They say that the Jews sold Russia. And where can I get my share?" laughing
      2. Alf
        -1
        28 January 2023 17: 41
        Quote: Sergei Timofeich
        Tell me, please, where can I earn extra money on patriotic comments, the atom is tired of eating bark and hedgehogs, I want caviar and pancakes ...

        Why not use the Internet? I give you a hint.

        Do not be offended. laughing wink
  2. 0
    28 January 2023 14: 18
    Events are accelerating, after which he will ask for missiles and nuclear weapons. All the same, it's time to proactively bang Poseidon in the Atlantic. let it be better to deal with the consequences of the tsunami in England, the States, France and Germany with Spain and Holland.
    1. -1
      28 January 2023 14: 25
      They've been asking for a long time. While Putin agreed to the tanks. As soon as he agrees to the missiles, they will supply the missiles.
    2. +1
      28 January 2023 15: 05
      All the same, it's time to proactively bang Poseidon in the Atlantic.

      That's it, that everything seems to be simple and tested for centuries - it's time to use their reflexes of fear. So far, only ours are used and quite successfully.
      The most sane thing is to start assembling a coalition persistently, every day, explaining that if it fails, everything will become worse. If it does not reach the PRC with the Indians (there is also not very cross-country ability there) - warn the "partners" about the use of tactical nuclear weapons at entry points. They won’t calm down - to strike and bring strategic nuclear weapons into full combat, having warned - for further escalation they will receive a poseidon in the side (if, of course, it is in the right quantity and condition). Otherwise, we will be "grinding by the grain" for years with the prospect of destroying already "old territories" in the depths. There is currently no other way to end the war quickly. The group in Belarus is not enough to cut the Ukrainian kr.u in half, and it’s not a fact that it’s planned for this at all ..
      1. 0
        29 January 2023 01: 29
        Quote: IvanIvanov
        All the same, it's time to proactively bang Poseidon in the Atlantic.

        That's it, that everything seems to be simple and tested for centuries - it's time to use their reflexes of fear. So far, only ours are used and quite successfully.
        The most sane thing is to start assembling a coalition persistently, every day, explaining that if it fails, everything will become worse. ..

        Yes, it looks like a weak coalition is coming out: the DPRK with Venezuela. Even Iran includes the back.
  3. 0
    28 January 2023 14: 20
    Kyiv has requested 24 F-16 fighters as part of the new NATO military assistance
    The lip is not a fool when the appetite is right rushing while eating. The main thing is not to choke.
    secret bases are already being created in the country, and civilian airports can be used for military purposes.
    And "secret bases" are created in the steppes or in the remaining forests of Transcarpathia?
    1. 0
      29 January 2023 02: 56
      "Secret bases" are flat sections of highways with the fenders and lighting poles removed.
      There are still plenty of abandoned or semi-abandoned airfields.
      Well, no one canceled flights from the territory of neighboring countries.
  4. 0
    28 January 2023 14: 20
    With hundreds of destroyed aircraft, verified videos and photos, plus those destroyed for which there is no visual evidence, Ukrainian aviation survives on the basis of collected elements sent by Poland and other lackeys of the United States, which is why they need the F16, which will also fall from the Su 35 Mig 31 and Su 57
    1. +2
      28 January 2023 16: 29
      With the F-16, the whole thing is that you can put them in almost as many as you like .. well, the fact that they are noticeably more modern relative to everything that Ukraine has.
    2. +1
      29 January 2023 02: 59
      There are no hundreds of destroyed aircraft there, and close to nothing - only dozens are lost.
      About half of what was in service a year ago.
      And no one gave them anything except the Afghan Mi-17s and the Macedonian Su-25s, just one at a time
      for a simple reason - ANYWHERE in the world there are so many Su-27s, Su-24s and MiG-29s !!!
      They are not physically present in nature.
  5. +6
    28 January 2023 14: 29
    We frown and express concern
    1. +4
      28 January 2023 14: 37
      The mustache is something, the mustache, I think I have prepared a backup option for myself ...
      1. 0
        28 January 2023 15: 22
        What is this? Like "I'm my own bourgeois, actively sabotaged and chattered?". Such an option, if you are not an agent, of course
      2. +2
        28 January 2023 17: 33
        Quote: Vladimir80
        The mustache is something, the mustache, I think I have prepared a backup option for myself ...

        There, the whole company, as they suck the last out of the country, and dump it, the place has probably been prepared for a long time, otherwise there are no explanations for the actions of these characters at all.
        1. 0
          28 January 2023 17: 51
          Quote: lis-ik
          There, the whole company, as the last ones will be sucked out of the country, they will dump

          1. Where do you think the company will fall?
          2. Announce the composition of the company, do not be shy.
          3. In the mouth of a merchant (and you are a merchant) it sounds extremely piquant:

          Quote: lis-ik
          like the last suck out of the country

          I understand that everyone there is completely thieves and scoundrels, and you, your beloved - it's different Yes laughing
        2. -1
          29 January 2023 06: 00
          Quote: lis-ik
          Quote: Vladimir80
          The mustache is something, the mustache, I think I have prepared a backup option for myself ...

          There, the whole company, as they suck the last out of the country, and dump it, the place has probably been prepared for a long time, otherwise there are no explanations for the actions of these characters at all.

          And the option, they are fighting for their homeland, you do not consider?
          1. 0
            29 January 2023 06: 20
            Quote: VSO-396
            And the option, they are fighting for their homeland, you do not consider?

            They say on TV that Little Russia and Novorossiya are regions of Russia that have been captured by the occupation regime of Nazi drug addicts. Something like Manchukuo in relation to China. The people are preparing to go out to meet their (i.e. Russian) army with bread and salt, but the Zunderkommandos of the Nazis go around the cities and whoever they see with bread and salt is immediately shot.

            True, sometimes the TV goes astray on "we will kill everyone, we will rob everyone" (c) Vladlen Tatarsky, but this is from an excess of fraternal feelings.
  6. -2
    28 January 2023 14: 36
    they need planes .. and pilots? they need tanks ... and tankers? so maybe all NATO troops at once? others wait and hope for a geyropa.
    1. -3
      28 January 2023 15: 02
      Or maybe they still need plants and factories, or maybe they still need a European president?
      1. -2
        28 January 2023 15: 07
        but plants and factories on the edge of the geyrop are not needed! but they were and where are they now?
    2. +2
      29 January 2023 03: 01
      Well, it’s clear to the hedgehog that the equipment is not transferred blindly, don’t understand to whom, but only when the personnel are trained.
      And his preparation could begin both in the spring and several years ago - we don’t know everything.
      Here we can only speculate.
  7. +7
    28 January 2023 14: 38
    They requested one squadron.
    24 pieces.
    The F-16 is ideal for strike missions.
    He has hanging containers for all occasions: electronic warfare, sights, target illumination ...
    And a wide range of weapons.
    1. +2
      28 January 2023 14: 55
      Nobody argues. Stay questions:
      1. Given its range, where will the airfield be?
      2. 24 aircraft will require fuel and ammunition logistics. Serious.
      3. Under whose jurisdiction?
      1. +4
        28 January 2023 15: 22
        Quote: Zaurbek
        1. Given its range, where will the airfield be?

        What's wrong with range. Its range is commensurate with the range of the MIG-29 or Su-25. If transferred, they will be based on the same airfields
        Quote: Zaurbek
        2. 24 aircraft will require fuel and ammunition logistics. Serious.

        They have already received so many different equipment and so far they are coping with the logistics. Fuel is basically the same as ours. Ammunition? They supply so much for artillery that the cannonade does not stop.
        Quote: Zaurbek
        3. Under whose jurisdiction?

        Who cares? How will it affect and what?
        1. 0
          28 January 2023 20: 29
          an urgent question - there are no completely closed safe airfields. taking off from Romania is one-way fuel and what will be the status of Romania then?
        2. 0
          28 January 2023 23: 37
          Quote: YOUR
          What's wrong with range. Its range is commensurate with the range of the MIG-29 or Su-25

          Its range is twice as long.
          Quote: YOUR
          If transferred, they will be based on the same airfields

          I would put it closer to the western border and try to negotiate to cover it because of the ribbon. Naturally, the airfield with the F-16 will be of great interest to Iskander drivers.
          1. +1
            29 January 2023 03: 34
            The practical range of the MIG-29 is 1430 km

            The practical range of the F-16 - 1315 km
            Su-25 practical range is less, not twice but less.
            Quote: Negro
            Naturally, the airfield with the F-16 will be of great interest to Iskander drivers.

            In theory, all ukrov aviation should be destroyed on the ground. But creatures fly.
            1. 0
              29 January 2023 05: 02
              Quote: YOUR
              The practical range of the MIG-29 is 1430 km

              The practical range of the F-16 - 1315 km

              )))
              With one caveat. For an American, this is a combat radius, and for a MiG, it is a ferry range.
              Quote: YOUR
              In theory, all ukrov aviation should be destroyed on the ground

              Well, perhaps the applications of the commander of the Aerospace Forces Surovikin were considered by the commander of the NVO Surovikin not in the first place. Or the commander of the NWO does not control the Iskanders.
              Although, on the other hand, now Ukrainian aviation does not pose a particular threat. The appearance of the F-16 can dramatically change this situation.
      2. -3
        28 January 2023 15: 27
        It is possible that they will work from the territory of Poland or Romania. But this automatically includes these countries in the war. In other words, the special operation ends, the 3rd European war begins.
        1. -1
          29 January 2023 03: 09
          Aviation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the airfields of these countries where it is likely to be serviced and some part is based has been flying for a year and nothing.
          Then, they were very lucky that the Poles have everything to service Soviet technology (oxygen, nitrogen, for example) and in terms of American F-16 technology.
          There that they will live there, or use the highways of Western Ukraine to take off.
      3. 0
        28 January 2023 23: 33
        Quote: Zaurbek
        1. Given its range, where will the airfield be?

        He has enough range from the PTB to Moscow from anywhere in Ukraine, and at first glance there are three airfields: Uzhgorod, Chernivtsi and Sambir. I would choose Sambor, but I'm not Zaluzhny.
        Quote: Zaurbek
        24 aircraft will require the logistics of fuel and ammunition. Serious

        Nonsense. Small local airport.
        Quote: Zaurbek
        Under whose jurisdiction?

        Under Ukrainian, of course. If there is a go-ahead for the direct participation of NATO, then all these dances lose their meaning.
  8. -1
    28 January 2023 14: 44
    Brad is complete. No one will let you base and fly from the territory of 404. We will immediately cover the runways and hangars. So they will fly from the territory of Poland and Romania. And as a fact they will endanger their masters. In addition to screeching, neither the states nor England will utter anything, they will fit in glasses. No one needs a nuclear collapse. I think that there will be no planes and tanks, at least just to designate.
    1. 0
      28 January 2023 14: 53
      In this case, aircraft are more trouble than good.
      1. +1
        28 January 2023 23: 44
        Quote: Zaurbek
        In this case, aircraft are more problems than good.

        If "political" restrictions are lifted, then even weak aviation can do things. Just the VKS demonstrate this from time to time with their X-22s.

        I'm willing to bet that the damned NATO bloc has enough targets for more than one hundred sorties.
    2. -2
      28 January 2023 14: 54
      Well, why, the Sumerians are systematically drawing NATO into a direct conflict with the help of the states. Agree not to change Yao and forward. What both the Sumerians and the states require. And without Yao, it will be difficult to stop NATO, and they will have more technology and ambitions to go to Russia for slaves.
    3. +2
      28 January 2023 14: 59
      Quote: Hariton Laptev
      Brad is complete. No one will let you base and fly from the territory of 404. We will immediately cover the runways and hangars. So they will fly from the territory of Poland and Romania. And as a fact they will endanger their masters. In addition to screeching, neither the states nor England will utter anything, they will fit in glasses. No one needs a nuclear collapse. I think that there will be no planes and tanks, at least just to designate.

      So, according to official Russian reports, they regularly fly on old Soviet aircraft of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Otherwise, who is regularly shot down there? winked
    4. 0
      28 January 2023 15: 29
      So they will fly from the territory of Poland and Romania.

      This means that there will be a real war in the European theater of operations. And I give a tooth, the United States will wash their hands faster than the F-16 will fly to the Dnieper.
      1. -2
        28 January 2023 18: 54
        And now, like, not real? Just a workout?
    5. +3
      28 January 2023 17: 47
      We will immediately cover the runways and hangars.

      Why don’t we do this now, but shoot down single planes? Can't or don't want to?
      1. 0
        29 January 2023 06: 15
        Quote: Al Manah
        We will immediately cover the runways and hangars.

        Why don’t we do this now, but shoot down single planes? Can't or don't want to?

        How will we cover the take-offs? "calibers"? And how many of them will be needed for, say, a 2 km lane? And in hangars, no one hides planes there, in caponiers, and they constantly change.
    6. +2
      28 January 2023 23: 39
      Quote: Hariton Laptev
      Brad is complete. No one will let you base and fly from the territory of 404. We will immediately cover the runways and hangars.

      Covering the runways and hangars for the year did not reach the hands, apparently. Because Su and MiGs are still flying.
    7. +2
      29 January 2023 03: 14
      Are you serious ? Aviation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has been flying very successfully and imperceptibly from the airfields of these countries for a year now.
      There are also services. Probably, the training of pilots on the Su-27, MiG-29 and Su-25 of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is also carried out there, as indicated by a number of signs.
      And in Ukraine, these F-16s will easily fly from highways.
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  10. -1
    28 January 2023 14: 52
    I'm wondering how the airfield will exist with 25 f16? On the territory of Ukraine? Geraniums alone will not let him work. I'm talking about something else.
    1. -3
      28 January 2023 14: 58
      They will hide.
      How successfully they hide (still) the old MiGs and Su.

      Ukrainians have learned to shoot down Caliber and Shaheda / Geraniums.
      Only Daggers and X-101s pass through air defense and hit targets.
      But these are very expensive missiles with very limited production.
    2. 0
      28 January 2023 23: 54
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Geraniums alone will not let him work. I'm talking about something else.

      I don't see any problems. Uzhgorod Airport is stupidly located in Slovakia. When choosing Sambor or Chernivtsi - behind the ribbon are radars, including a balloon, and a control system, on the Ukrainian side, PAK-Z launchers from Iskanders, irises from KR and cannon air defense on Oerlikons from mopeds. Plus, 300-kilometer rockets and "good" for strikes on Iskanders on the territory of the Republic of Belarus - they will not get them from the Russian Federation in the places listed. Ukrainians correctly say that the issues of aviation and serious air defense are interconnected. Planes of course in caponiers.
      1. -3
        29 January 2023 00: 01
        Quote: Negro
        Plus 300 km rockets and "good" for strikes on Iskanders on the territory of the Republic of Belarus

        There is a good Russian idiom, especially for people like you with "donavi":


        But you write, you write ... you will be credited (s) Yes
        1. -2
          29 January 2023 06: 20
          Can you argue with reason?
          The text of your comment is too short and in the opinion of the site administration does not carry useful information
          1. -2
            29 January 2023 06: 35
            Quote: VSO-396
            Can you argue with reason?

            )))
            I usually react to this myself. We are in Eastern Europe, here the distance from what needs to be done to what has been done in reality is very large. When and if we see something like that, then we will discuss it. Now Golovan's skepticism is justified.
  11. -1
    28 January 2023 15: 17
    Will they also train pilots in 2 months? Things are heading towards a direct conflict with NATO, that's what you need to understand.
    1. +6
      28 January 2023 15: 36
      Ukrainian pilots have been studying on the F-16 for a whole year now. The delivery of aircraft looks logical. When serviceable Soviet tanks ran out all over the world, the Leopards were handed over to Ukraine, when the Soviet Tochka-u ran out, they handed over the Himars, when the Soviet air defense systems ran out, they handed over the Nasamses and other Cheetahs, when all the MiGs in Europe run out, they will hand over the F- sixteen. Everything is logical and predictable.
      1. +1
        28 January 2023 19: 54
        Soviet tanks will never run out.

        Now, rather, the emphasis is on the volume of lifting equipment. Unnecessary T-72s in good condition in Europe have ended, but materiel will be on the rise even before 25 with an increase in pace.

        Let me also remind you:
        Poland - transfers the first 30 Hard of 200+ cash. All Solids will be transferred in 23-24 years. And at the same time, Poland is transferring another 30 T-72Ms modernized at Bumar according to the Ukrainian project (the equipment is unclear, only a new FCS with a thermal imaging sight, new night vision systems for the driver, new communications and sensors on the battlefield are known).

        Morocco - so far has transferred only a small part of its real T-72B, a non-export model.

        Cyprus with T-80U and BMP3 in exchange for Greek Leopards.

        The global market for the T-72 is quite large.

        The arrival of Western heavy equipment (tanks and serious infantry fighting vehicles) is rather the creation of heavy (possibly Western) brigades to break through the front in the current conditions of troop saturation.

        Dots-y


        Yes, they either ended or remained NZ. But Himars is still a shorter arm so far.

        ended soviet air defense systems


        And it's not even close. There are problems with missiles, but enough for another 23 years. And then there is Finland, there is Cyprus and Greece. Well, the world market can also be milked behind the scenes. According to the military, the same Poland transmits modernized Wasps, for example.

        MiGs


        Slovak MiGs are still in Slovakia.
        Poland still has significantly (15+) MiGs.
        Another 5-10 MiGs can be pumped out of the world market, so to speak, returned to their homeland (export from Ukraine).


        The problem with MiGs is that they are of little use and limited in use. At the same time, F16 gives a qualitative leap in application due to ASP.
        1. +1
          29 January 2023 00: 02
          Quote: donavi49
          at the same time, F16 gives a qualitative leap in application due to ASP

          Actually, the main question is whether they will give the F-16, and why they will give it. Muscovites are especially interested.
          Quote: donavi49
          There are problems with missiles, but enough for another 23 years.

          Here it should be noted that attacks on infrastructure have sharply accelerated the consumption of ZR. So the last weeks have piled on the problem all over the world.
          Quote: donavi49
          But Himars is still a shorter arm so far.

          Hymars is a weapon of a different class. This is a high-precision, unlike the Soviet OTRK.
          Quote: donavi49
          The arrival of Western heavy equipment (tanks and serious infantry fighting vehicles) is rather the creation of heavy (possibly Western) brigades to break through the front in the current conditions of troop saturation.

          Yes, difficult decisions led to the reduction and stabilization of LBS. For its breakthrough, either large expenditures of l / s are needed (and the experience of WWI suggests that it is not a panacea), or a new quality of the army of one of the fraternal peoples. The transition to the level of WWII at least.
  12. +1
    28 January 2023 15: 30
    The execution has been carried out. The people are careless
    Goes, scattered, home
    And about their works are eternal
    Already interpreting among themselves.
    Pushkin A.S. "Poltava"
    The F-16 is a simple and reliable aircraft.
  13. -1
    28 January 2023 15: 32
    Well, the planes will change on the outskirts, our air defense will shoot them down, and then what? Will they give nuclear shells?
    1. +3
      28 January 2023 15: 45
      For starters, planning bombs and missiles with a range of up to 150 km, and then up to 300. And kamikaze drones with a range of thousands of kiometers, controlled from American satellites anywhere in the world. And even if this does not help, nuclear weapons will also be handed over. And in fact - after all, should they not go to surrender to Russia? Not for that so many cases heaped up.
    2. 0
      29 January 2023 03: 22
      It won’t bring down even close - I rely on the means of electronic intelligence on them a head higher than on our planes.
      Then, try to shoot down a JSOW glide bomb with a range of 400 km or an AGM-158 missile with a range of 1000 km when they are fired a dozen times.
      That is the main danger of these aircraft.
  14. +1
    28 January 2023 15: 41
    Quote: Zaurbek
    1. Given its range, where will the airfield be?
    2. 24 aircraft will require fuel and ammunition logistics. Serious.
    3. Under whose jurisdiction?


    1. Poland, Romania
    2. Seriously? Is it not required now? Now you can see they ride oxen and throw spears.
    3. Who cares?
  15. VB
    -1
    28 January 2023 15: 43
    And what, any airfields, still exist? And Putin?
  16. -1
    28 January 2023 15: 48
    The word "kamikaze" is used to refer to suicide pilots who appeared at this stage of the war. There are more than 500 aircraft in the US aircraft graveyard. Put batteries, hook up tanks, fill up kerosene and rockets on pylons, and it will be quiet horror. Which Ukrainian air defense cannot stop. Apparently, they decided to sell flying trash for more than aviation aluminum.
  17. -2
    28 January 2023 16: 23
    ... even if the Western allies agree to send fighters, their combat use can begin no earlier than six months later. So much time, according to the representative of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, will be required to train Ukrainian pilots.
    Even during the Great Patriotic War, retraining for another type of aviation equipment by experienced pilots even took more time. Read the memoirs of Soviet pilots who were retrained from Soviet aircraft to American Aircobras ... And here, right from the L-39 and to the F-16. Let's start with the fact that RUS is not in the middle, as is customary all over the world, but on the right side console, by the way, you also need to get used to this, well, and other related trifles. And of course, all future Ukrainian F-16 pilots understand English much better than Ukrainian language.
    1. 0
      29 January 2023 00: 15
      Quote: Fitter65
      Read the memoirs of Soviet pilots who were retrained from Soviet aircraft to

      I do not see lieutenants among the pilots, only sergeants. I ask:

      - What raid do you have on combat aircraft? Answer:

      - One and a half to two hours, and most often on old planes, rarely anyone flew on new ones. I ask the commanders:

      - How will the development of a new material part take place?

      - The theory was explained to them during their studies, they were introduced to the features of the aircraft, well, here we give one or two flights and then to Stalingrad. Time is running out.


      Fortunately, Ukrainian pilots are not at war with Hartman (specifically, these, from Shakhurin's memoirs, are unlikely to have crossed paths with Hartman). They need to carefully go to the launch point of the CD and press the button. Similar to the crews of the Tu-22 and Tu-95.
  18. 0
    28 January 2023 17: 58
    Partly this junk flies and it is not so far from Ukraine.
    1. +1
      28 January 2023 23: 53
      Quote: Vyacheslav V.
      Partly this junk flies and it is not so far from Ukraine.
      As far as I know, but the Davis-Monten airbase is located within the city of Tucson, which is located in the state of Arizona, which is part of the United States, which is located on the North American continent, which in turn is located in the Western Hemisphere. No, of course, arguing what is close and what is far in your understanding is useless. Although if purely geographically, then this base is closer to the Russian Federation. Well, for the simple reason that the state of Arizona is closer to the US Pacific coast. But to Ukraine ... firstly, to get to the Atlantic, you need to drive at least a couple of states, and this is not a narrow strip of California, and here it is the Pacific Ocean. And really the whole state of New Mexico, well, Texas. and then you end up in the Gulf of Mexico. Then from this bay through the Bermuda Triangle to the Atlantic itself, then along the opposite route of the Titanic to Europe, well, Europe, this is practically the backyard of Ukraine, so to speak, its Western European regions, Lviv region ... laughing Although, as they say, for a cheerful and cheerful Ukraine, a hundred kilometers is not a circle, but 10 billion is not money ... Therefore, I still agree that this airbase is practically next to Ukraine. Of course, you would not find a photo of the parking lot with the F-4 "Phantom II", which the Vietnamese pilots on MiGs lowered to the ground, but the parking lot with the F-16 ...
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        29 January 2023 03: 26
        Did you forget the Netherlands? They have 61 units of these aircraft. They were the first to decide to give them away.
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        29 January 2023 14: 20
        The route of these compact birds will repeat the route of the B-17 bombers. You remember that B-17s took part in shuttle operations from Ukrainian airfields in 1944. And judging by the information in the Russian press, the release of frozen Russian assets to maintain the conflict on the territory of Ukraine is not a problem. So the Russian Air Force will have to be financed as much as possible. Everyone who has participated in flights at least once will have to fly, the intensity of more than 1000 sorties per day is hard and heroic work.
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        29 January 2023 14: 33
        Air defense must be brought to maximum combat readiness. Therefore, students of higher educational institutions in all cities of Russia after classes are simply obliged to go to the MTV department for 2-3 hours in the evening and receive the specialty of an air defense lieutenant. Theoretical and practical classes should be conducted by officers who have received combat experience. Visual aids should be operating systems and the latest developments. In case of a mistake in practical classes, students are required to look at the destroyed cities on the movie screen.