Who we have lost: the second "philosophical ship" from Russia

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Who we have lost: the second "philosophical ship" from Russia
D. Pantyukhin. "Philosophical steamboat"


"After Russia"


The occasion once again to remember with a kind word those who left Russia was a musical collection with the characteristic title "After Russia (after Russia) - to the 100th anniversary of the first emigration in Russia." Along with well-known performers, such as “The leg has cramped!”, Tequilajazzz, Noize MC (Ivan Alekseev is a foreign agent in the Russian Federation), Monetochki (singer Elizaveta Gyrdymova, recognized as a foreign agent), pacifist-cannibals “Porn Films” and other evil spirits, there are also little-known characters - some "Queen Popova", Naum Blik and Khmyrov. The music was set to poems by poets who left Russia - Alexei Eisler, Vladimir Nabokov, Georgy Ivanov and others. It seemed fair to the authors of the collection to put themselves on the same shelf with the poets of the Silver Age. Only now, rehashing old works and representing at least a minimal cultural value are completely different things.



"The collection is dedicated to the 100th anniversary of the first emigration from Russia, which took place in 1922-1923",

- this is how the appearance of After Russia on the project portal is commented on. A direct call to equalize the foreign agent Monetochka with representatives of the creative intelligentsia of Tsarist Russia. If so, then it is not a sin to compare those who traveled on "philosophical ships". There is only one huge discrepancy - most of those who left the country a hundred years ago did it by force, under pressure from the state. Many have been in jail beforehand. Even the property of those who escaped was not confiscated, not to mention the ban on returning back.

You can treat emigrants in different ways, but one thing is clear - these are people who could not and did not want to live in their own country. Someone out of fear for their own skin, someone out of unwillingness to change something, someone just looked for a reason for a long time and finally found it. Nevertheless, no one denies that there were many geniuses among those who left Bolshevik Russia - Fedor Chaliapin, Nikolai Berdyaev, Semyon Frank, Nikolai Lossky. Probably, now I will voice a seditious and unpopular thought, but Russia has lost a little after the departure of such comrades. The country lost much more when the mechanical scientist Vladimir Zworykin was forced to go abroad on one of the notorious steamships. Not to be confused with the pioneer of television technology, Vladimir Zworykin, who cowardly feared the revolution and actually became the first defector. In the same clip, Igor Sikorsky, who escaped from the "order to be shot" to Europe in 1918. Performers from After Russia should first read the history of the Russian Revolution in order to understand what the dissenters fled from then and now.

History does not repeat itself


Illiterate idols of Russian zoomers have time to throw incompetence even from abroad. It is not surprising that in Russia idols willingly accept food, not understanding all the inferiority of what is happening. Both those and others picked up information on the top, heard something somewhere and are now passing it off as the truth of the first instance. The "first wave" of Russian emigration happened not in 1921-1922, and not even in the first months of the Bolshevik revolution, but several centuries earlier. Not the most democratic, frankly, the methods of government of Tsar Ivan the Terrible forced many to flee abroad as early as the middle of the 1921th century. Of the most famous emigrants of the really first wave are Grigory Otrepyev and Andrey Kurbsky. Later, those who disagreed with the policy of the authorities fled from the church schism in the XNUMXth century, and the Don Cossacks Nekrasov hid in Turkey at the beginning of the XNUMXth century. But according to the educational program of those who went abroad, the counting of the waves of emigration should be carried out from XNUMX.

And who among us climbed into the new "philosophical ship"? For example, the once respected Boris Grebenshchikov, performer of "Golden City" and "This train is on fire." A crazy old man collects millions of dollars at the Brandenburg Gate for the needs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and calls the Russians "fascists". Once again - the money from the concerts is not spent on helping refugees and not on humanitarian needs, but on arming the killers of the Russian military. Such are the new "philosophers" of non-forced emigration. At the same time, singing for Mikhail Saakashvili, the author of the murderous aggression against South Ossetia, is quite a pacifist thing. Boris performed penetrating verses in Odessa in 2015. Probably, then it was necessary to organize a “philosophical ship” for such rabble, and not wait until 2022. Let us allow ourselves a little vulgarity and compare the once generational idol Grebenshchikov with the immortal emigrant Fyodor Chaliapin. Even before his departure from Russia, the opera singer built two hospitals for the wounded on the fronts of the First World War at his own expense. Russia, by the way, in 1914 was not attacked, but defended the fraternal Serbian people, which, according to Grebenshchikov's logic, is considered fascism. In general, the current migrants have become rather thin, no matter what they build of themselves.


Bar in Yekaterinburg. Source: 9111.ru

Let's imagine that the elite who left would remain in Russia. The special operation did not happen, and Grebenshchikov was not forced to earn money at the Brandenburg Gate. A conditional foreign agent, Monetochka, in ten or twenty years, acquires real estate in Miami and, having earned for comfortable years for the rest of her life, leaves for the USA to make ends meet. Approximately as Pugacheva and Leontiev are now. The latter, by the way, is a holder of the Orders of Merit for the Fatherland, III and IV degrees, the Order of Honor and the Order of Friendship. Grebenshchikov, by the way, also an order bearer, would have been given a monument, and Smolyaninov, threatening to kill his Russian colleagues at the front, would finally become a people's artist. There is no desire to repeat the common expression about the self-purification of Russia, but the changed times have squeezed the rot out of the country. I would like to believe that all without a trace.

One condition remains for modern emigrants - that none of them should repeat the fate of the majority of those who left Russia in the 18-20s of the last century. Historians claim that almost 190 thousand people who left during the years of revolutionary unrest returned back in a couple of years. And all those who have the sense to return to their homeland should be given an appropriate reception.
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  1. +27
    30 January 2023 04: 32
    All these citizens are just the beginning of the journey, we will see many more. About taking it back? Well, this is a super-open question, so to speak, it is still unclear why our leaders do not itch at all and chew snot, otherwise in Russia there is one step from love to hate ........ feel
    1. +86
      30 January 2023 04: 55
      To begin with, it would be nice to remember who hung awards and titles on the same Galkin. And for what.
      And not only for this to remember ....
      And at the same time remember for the same Chubais, "information carrier")), slightly frolicking in Skolkovo. Yes, after all, he was such a cunning while he was here - after all, no one knew that they were stealing there, it turns out. As no one knew that they were stealing in other places. Such cunning ..... In the year when the "Azarty case" arose (from which "Azarty" suddenly disappeared somewhere)), the Counting Chamber announced some ridiculous billions along the line of the Moscow Region, like "something too ...... gone. Moreover, there was a much more significant amount of laughter. But there were no cases. And this, EMNIP, 2017 .....
      So, despite all the disgust for the characters mentioned by the author, in vain this arrow on this slut, sorry, translates. Although it is clear that it is fashionable and safe to scold all these clowns wink
      1. +6
        30 January 2023 08: 19
        Illiterate idols of Russian zoomers

        1. Buzzers have many other idols.
        2. Watering the buzzers of all without exception - you further expand the split between generations.
        3. Left and left, we don't need naughty Russians. Let them "swing rights" where it is accepted.
        1. +14
          30 January 2023 09: 47
          And you also spit on yourself :)) For whose children are these, huh? Who brought up? On whose examples were they brought up? Well, get what you gave birth to and raised.
          1. -1
            30 January 2023 16: 26
            Quote: Single-n
            And you also spit on yourself :)) For whose children are these, huh? Who brought up? On whose examples were they brought up? Well, get what you gave birth to and raised.


            Why are you driving young people, do people 20-40 years old rule the country? No, she is ruled by old Soviet cadres, including the army. And the result is obvious. I am sure the youth, if given power to them, would be a hundred times more literate and adequate than the modern leadership. And certainly much more decisively and flexible in judgment.
            1. +3
              30 January 2023 23: 14
              Though! Modern youth, who grew up in conditions of complete indifference in relation to their state, having come to power, will be even more sharpened into their own pockets. They know perfectly well that the SYSTEM will not tolerate an overly patriotic official.
              1. +1
                30 January 2023 23: 44
                Quote: Nick2591
                Though! Modern youth, who grew up in conditions of complete indifference in relation to their state, having come to power, will be even more sharpened into their own pockets. They know perfectly well that the SYSTEM will not tolerate an overly patriotic official.


                The system of Nicholas the first was broken by his son Alexander, who grew up in this system. A rare young man in Russia does not see the inferiority of our modern management system, and not all are as selfish as you think.
              2. +3
                31 January 2023 01: 41
                Modern youth who grew up in conditions of complete indifference towards their state


                This is not their state.
                1. 0
                  31 January 2023 18: 48
                  this is their state - the Russian Federation, they are precisely his children .. but the USSR - the truth is not theirs, but older .. only it has not been around for a long time, even if you are against ..
                  1. 0
                    1 February 2023 20: 20
                    They are the children of their parents, the state cannot have children. Replace "children" with "property", it will be much more honest. Taking into account how our cities are developing, acquiring human beings, what is happening with education, medicine and provinces, the state, at best, can be a gloomy stepmother for them.
              3. -1
                3 February 2023 17: 15
                The state itself is to blame for the vices of youth, namely, low internal social, economic policy and education. But even in the midst of all this darkness, there are hundreds of young people who can lead the country to a brighter future, they are not interested in minimal stability, and the "Guarantor of the Constitution" is not eternal. Then their time will come.
        2. -8
          30 January 2023 11: 14
          Nonsense. No split, and even vice versa. Komsomol members walked in formation and there were no splits.
          1. +9
            30 January 2023 11: 44
            Komsomol members walked in formation and there were no splits.

            And then the Komsomol was gone. And the countries where this Komsomol was.
            1. +6
              30 January 2023 22: 15
              And in China even now there is a Komsomol, and the country is not like ours in terms of economic power and in many other parameters. There is no logical connection between the Komsomol and the collapse of the country at all. And they gave you the pluses .. And they probably consider themselves critically thinking people.
            2. +6
              31 January 2023 00: 54
              But people from the Komsomol remained, how many of them robbed the country and continue to rob?
      2. +1
        30 January 2023 09: 03
        Well, as usual I see here, I don’t see here, but here I wrap the fish, or do you want them to flog themselves like that non-commissioned officer’s wife? hi
        1. +9
          30 January 2023 09: 26
          *Quality* of departing *philosophers* with escorts, what then, what today is the same. True, * those * philosophers had many years of PR and even the author tries not to doubt their * quality *. But it was exactly the same as it is now.
          Philosophers favored by the authorities were looking for any opportunity to spoil SOVIET RUSSIA. And there was * a bunch of close associates * buzzing in the ears of * bastards * about their exclusivity-genius. And most importantly - * ADVICE will run out without you *.
          For the sake of this - * run out *, and they left confident in their own genius-indispensability.
          Then the philosophers went to the lackeys, just to spoil RUSSIA and all CITIZENS OF RUSSIA, and * sticky * from the environment were attached, including in very * uncomfortable * places with the owners.
          1. -1
            30 January 2023 10: 13
            Here it is not necessary to declare that all those who left only think how to spoil Russia. And do not confuse Russia with specific thieves in Russia. The fact that those who left the country call high officials thieves is not a crime against Russia. Here they cannot say this, since they will be sent to prison in an instant.
            1. +13
              30 January 2023 13: 45
              they will be sent to jail immediately.
              At least one VO forum member went to jail? In Latvia, for example, for the denial of Russian aggression (understand as you like what is called), posted online, they will actually come to you. The special police department will track you down in real life, and you will be pushed to court. So if for a "thief" in Russia they really planted by- then this forum would have lost half of the nicknames at least.
            2. +12
              30 January 2023 14: 16
              What about freedom of speech abroad? There Medusa was expelled from the country for three joints without talking! Here is efficiency! And after all, no one was buzzing about the bloody Western regime!
          2. +3
            30 January 2023 13: 27
            They quickly began to offer something painfully * to sort * * * bastards * into those who shit here and shit * there, and others who * shit * only * there * or only * here *.
            *Those* philosophers about the gradation of *created nasty things* began *to appear* when they realized that they would be fed and maintained for *continuity of the process*. Therefore, when * sorting out the relationship * for places at the feeder, they themselves laid out so much about themselves that it is surprising HOW they have kept fans?
            Apparently RUSSIAN tradition and scoundrels to find WELL AT LEAST SOMETHING human works.
            What do you think?
          3. -8
            30 January 2023 16: 40
            The difference is that then Russia turned from an Orthodox empire into a totalitarian scoop with idiotic ideas about a world revolution where they could really be shot, and they would have been dispossessed for sure. And now no one touches them and they are simply brainwashed by the now Western totalitarian ideology with idiotic ideas about reality. And there they may well be knocked down somewhere as soon as they see some kind of PR sense in this.
            So globally, we are in a win-win situation, but in order to realize this win, we need to win the war and change the government of the country. Which, unfortunately, has not yet been observed.
    2. +36
      30 January 2023 09: 15
      If you think about it, then the theme of betrayal is constantly raised and exaggerated - supposedly out, look! those who left the country and do not want to participate in all this and God forbid condemns it - traitors! Scoundrels! They ate and drank with us, received our money, and now they have left! Traitors! Why are they traitors? They betrayed no one - they left for their own money, from which they paid taxes and which they can dispose of anywhere. Now they live abroad, where life is far from sugar for emigrants, at their own peril and risk. Well, they don’t want to participate in all this, they have the right, especially if they didn’t give an oath to anyone. Another thing is interesting - they remember about these people, like Galkin, but about the relatives of those who are in the Kremlin or rub near the Kremlin, and are also in the west, silent. They are not traitors, but they ended up there by accident. Well, the cherry on the cake, Karaulov raised a storm that the Russian company from Lukoil, located in Bulgaria, sends diesel fuel to the Bulgarians, who then transport it to Ukraine and fill half of Ukrainian tanks with it. Now Volodin staged a parliamentary investigation into this matter. But something I do not see articles in the media about this. That is, it turns out that supplying Ukrainian tanks with diesel fuel is not a betrayal, just such a business, but leaving the country is a terrible betrayal? And how many such enterprises, owned by Russians, are silently pumping resources to the West, which uses these resources to supply Ukraine and the work of the Western military-industrial complex, which supplies weapons to the same Ukraine. And they are not traitors? And those who do not give permission to destroy such enterprises that are located in Ukraine, but are the property of the Russians, roads and railway tracks with bridges along which goods from such enterprises go, are they not traitors? If not traitors, then who? Galkin is the main traitor here for some, yeah. It seems to me that such articles, where they write with hysterical notes about the "betrayal" of Russian citizens who left the country at that time, are written specifically to divert attention from real traitors who are not in sight, and silently doing their job.
      1. +13
        30 January 2023 09: 33
        Well, Slepakov, for example, did not pay taxes from 100 million. Galkin has debts. They left because they had problems with comfortable living and earnings. For example, if Pugacheva had supported the SVO, she would have lost access to Israeli clinics.
        1. +1
          31 January 2023 15: 21
          Quote from Gpn27
          if Pugacheva had supported the SVO, she would have lost access to Israeli clinics.

          There they have acquired overwork extortion from rising stars in order to save them and left.
      2. +5
        30 January 2023 12: 56
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        If you think about it, then the theme of betrayal is constantly raised and exaggerated - supposedly out, look! those who left the country and do not want to participate in all this and God forbid condemns it - traitors! Scoundrels! They ate and drank with us, received our money, and now they have left! Traitors! Why are they traitors? They betrayed no one - they left for their own money, from which they paid taxes and which they can dispose of anywhere. Now they live abroad, where life is far from sugar for emigrants, at their own peril and risk. Well, they don’t want to participate in all this, they have the right, especially if they didn’t give an oath to anyone. Another thing is interesting - they remember about these people, like Galkin, but about the relatives of those who are in the Kremlin or rub near the Kremlin, and are also in the west, silent. They are not traitors, but they ended up there by accident. Well, the cherry on the cake, Karaulov raised a storm that the Russian company from Lukoil, located in Bulgaria, sends diesel fuel to the Bulgarians, who then transport it to Ukraine and fill half of Ukrainian tanks with it. Now Volodin staged a parliamentary investigation into this matter. But something I do not see articles in the media about this. That is, it turns out that supplying Ukrainian tanks with diesel fuel is not a betrayal, just such a business, but leaving the country is a terrible betrayal? And how many such enterprises, owned by Russians, are silently pumping resources to the West, which uses these resources to supply Ukraine and the work of the Western military-industrial complex, which supplies weapons to the same Ukraine. And they are not traitors? And those who do not give permission to destroy such enterprises that are located in Ukraine, but are the property of the Russians, roads and railway tracks with bridges along which goods from such enterprises go, are they not traitors? If not traitors, then who? Galkin is the main traitor here for some, yeah. It seems to me that such articles, where they write with hysterical notes about the "betrayal" of Russian citizens who left the country at that time, are written specifically to divert attention from real traitors who are not in sight, and silently doing their job.

        I agree, but I'll add. Those who have left must still be distinguished. If you made money, bought real estate there, which does not violate the law, does not throw mud at your homeland, then you have the right.
        But if you, for example, are subject to conscription, then you are a deserter. If you pour mud on the Motherland, like Smolyaninov, and say the way it will burn in an atomic fire, I will fight against Russia, then you are a traitor. You help the enemy with money like a madman, Grebenshchikov, then you are an enemy.
        And so everything is right about the kids and about the supply of products and why the logistics in Ukraine work, which I also spoke about here more than once.
        1. 0
          30 January 2023 14: 05
          Quote: Ulan.1812
          if you are, for example, subject to conscription, then you are a deserter. If you pour mud on the Motherland, like Smolyaninov, and say the way it will burn in an atomic fire, I will fight against Russia, then you are a traitor. You help the enemy with money like a madman, Grebenshchikov, then you are an enemy.

          I fully support the wording.
          1. 0
            30 January 2023 15: 34
            hohkn. And if he was told here that he should say such things there?
      3. +5
        30 January 2023 14: 37
        Volodin will "sweat" to initiate investigations into this fact)))). Don't you know that we continue to sell oil and oil products to Europe? Conventionally, 100 tons of diesel fuel are pumped through the pipe .... selection is carried out by 000 buyers. Each of these buyers resells to 10 more buyers.....etc. Moreover, as soon as this pipe crosses the border, a bunch of other diesel fuel is pumped into it and the same is taken. Approximately the same with gas .... with oil .... What kind of investigation can there be and what will it give ?! The modern world binds countries together so much that we continue to heat (provide gas for heating) the most stubborn Bandera people in Western Ukraine ...
      4. +2
        30 January 2023 14: 46
        a Russian enterprise from Lukoil, located in Bulgaria, sends diesel fuel to the Bulgarians, who then transport it to Ukraine and fill half of Ukrainian tanks with it.
        Here is a serious topic. good
        1. -3
          31 January 2023 01: 02
          And who are the "Bulgarians", what kind of intermediaries? Ukraine cannot charter a ship and bring a solarium from Lukoil to Odessa?
      5. 0
        30 January 2023 15: 13
        good Respect! That's exactly what it looks like. hi bully
      6. +5
        30 January 2023 16: 01
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        That is, it turns out that supplying Ukrainian tanks with diesel fuel is not a betrayal, it’s just such a business

        Look at the website of the Ukrainian customs how many goods and what we sold to Ukraine and how much we bought from them last year. You will be surprised. We didn’t declare war on each other, so we trade. business, however.
      7. +2
        30 January 2023 16: 32
        ++++++ Sorry, I'm not smart enough to write a normal comment
      8. +2
        30 January 2023 16: 39
        Hmmm? And why do we dislike Bandera so much? AND? Why? They just wanted to change Ukraine according to their worldview. They didn’t betray anyone, they’re just like that - they like Hitler and the Germans more than the Russians. They have a right? Have. Well, they went to Canada, but it’s not sugar there ... Well, they didn’t want to participate in all this, their choice - all the more they didn’t take an oath (maybe only for loyalty to Germany).
        In principle, I repeated your arguments - why those who left are not so bad ... only on the example of Bandera. Do you agree with this? Me not. For me, the Galkins-Pugalkins and Shukhevychs will always remain cattle and traitors.
      9. +1
        31 January 2023 16: 43
        written specifically to divert attention from real traitors who are not in sight, and silently do their job.

        Actually, there is nothing to add, thanks for a sober assessment.
  2. -33
    30 January 2023 04: 40
    Dirty article! Nauseous...
    1. +10
      30 January 2023 05: 44
      Do you like the above-named individuals? Then I have no questions. For me, the "burp" of the 90s left like that.
      1. +32
        30 January 2023 06: 09
        This "belch", unfortunately, did not leave. And, in the foreseeable future, will not leave ....
        1. +7
          30 January 2023 08: 52
          Yes, the budget will eat more without belching.
          The student of the Faculty of Journalism of Moscow State University was persecuted for supporting his own people, they allegedly kicked them out.
          Where and where are those herbalists really now?
          There are more of them in the party
        2. +9
          30 January 2023 08: 54
          Quote: frog
          This "belch", unfortunately, did not leave. And, in the foreseeable future, will not leave ....
          well, yes, the bulk of the opportunists remained, such as Baskov, Gazmanov, Mironov and many others. As long as they have goodies from the state, plus advertising for all kinds of banks, they will "fluctuate with the party line"
          1. -14
            30 January 2023 10: 23
            Or maybe the other way around - the most honest and decent left, who do not want to crawl, who do not want to say one thing, but do something completely different, who want to receive a decent salary for their work, to have decent medicine, in a word - they just want a normal life.
            1. +10
              30 January 2023 12: 56
              want to get a decent salary for their work
              Max Pokrovsky is now directly ASKING to support himself with money - he was surprised to find that the Americans are not interested in his perky songs. If you read those who left for Georgia \ Turkey, most were surprised to learn that no one needs their skills as a motivator and nutritionist at all and the loot goes into the red belay .
            2. +3
              30 January 2023 13: 43
              But then who prevented them from being always like that? Who prevented you from leaving earlier?
            3. +6
              30 January 2023 14: 30
              Well, then why didn't these honest and decent people protest against the bombing of Yugoslavia and Iraq? Why didn't they protest against the Maidan? Why were there no protests against those burned in Odessa? Why didn’t they protest against the armed aggression of the outskirts against the LDNR? LDNR separatists? And who are the Ukrainians? Not separatists? When the republics separated from the USSR, no one bombed them. And according to the logic of Kyiv, it was necessary to bomb! And it turns out on February 24 that they did the right thing by starting to crush the Ukrainian separatists! Then Russia is the legal successor of the USSR and can probably return to its previous status with rights to the territory. And on February 24, we did not invade someone else's territory, but put things in order in our country, on our territory! And these territories were both part of the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR.
              1. +4
                30 January 2023 15: 40
                North Caucasus. Assignee? Have you seen the red flag of the USSR with a hammer and sickle? All the time they walk with the flags of the Russian Empire and with the same eagles of the Russian Empire. There is nothing Soviet in today's Russia except weapons and atomic bombs. The rest is either stolen or destroyed.
              2. 0
                31 January 2023 18: 53
                Quote: North Caucasus
                Well, then why didn't these honest and decent people protest against the bombing of Yugoslavia and Iraq? Why didn't they protest against the Maidan? Why were there no protests against those burned in Odessa? Why didn’t they protest against the armed aggression of the outskirts against the LDNR?

                and what did this have to do with the territory of the Russian Federation?
            4. 0
              30 January 2023 16: 35
              Maybe . The flag is in their hands.
              Sorry, I'm not smart enough to write a normal comment
            5. +1
              30 January 2023 17: 06
              Quote: Fan-Fan
              Or maybe the other way around - the most honest and decent left, who do not want to crawl, who do not want to say one thing, but do something completely different, who want to receive a decent salary for their work, to have decent medicine, in a word - they just want a normal life.


              There are different people there, there are quite worthy ones who did not accept the fact that we attacked, well, they have a mental base that comes from the 90s and is Western-centric, but many of them have done a hundred times more for the country than the most patriots. And there is also a frank trash like Pugacheva. This is generally an irony with their non-family, because they did not have respect and authority among the people, everyone considered them finished, well, almost everyone, but the authorities extolled them ... and this is the result.
            6. -1
              30 January 2023 20: 42
              Quote: Fan-Fan
              Or maybe the other way around - the most honest and decent left, who do not want to crawl, who do not want to say one thing, but do something completely different, who want to receive a decent salary for their work, to have decent medicine, in a word - they just want a normal life.

              If you think that protesting against the military actions of the Russian Federation, leaving for countries such as the United States, Britain or Israel, is a sign of "honesty and decency", then there are no questions for you. And no one will give them exactly what they want to yelp there.
              1. -1
                31 January 2023 19: 36
                Quote: Vasia
                If you think that protesting against the military actions of the Russian Federation, leaving for countries such as the United States, Britain or Israel, is a sign of "honesty and decency", then there are no questions for you. And to yelp there whatever you want, no one will give them for sure

                It is necessary to use the Soviet experience correctly, to close all borders. There is nothing to do there. Send any dissidents to the front. Galkin was immediately evident that a man with rottenness. He married a woman much older than himself, such people should be considered LGBT, this is against braces. The wife must be younger than the husband.
      2. +3
        30 January 2023 13: 23
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        For me, the "burp" of the 90s left.

        "Belp of the 90s"? Fuck there!
        This burp stands still in the city of Yekaterinburg and continues to pull money from the state budget for its maintenance, along with the widow of the same ka who, for the sake of his ambitions, dealt the last blow with an ax to the head of the Soviet Union, killing the seventy-year history of the Soviet system ... And also forgotten in the bustle "Belching" stands near Gelendzhik ...
        My opinion is this: I didn’t say anything bad about my country, I didn’t insult my people, I didn’t betray the memory of my ancestors, - yes, good riddance ... It’s just that today it’s time for a reassessment of values, when an ordinary Tuvan on the battlefield is nicer and more necessary for the country than a hundred of those clowns who turned their existence into an eternal holiday.
        Whoever likes it - put their photos on the "god" and sigh!
        Quote: frog
        This "belch", unfortunately, did not leave. And, in the foreseeable future, will not leave ....

        I understand what you mean. This is not a burp, but vomit that has bothered everyone, which has already dried up, but spoils the landscape with its appearance.
        What has changed since the 90s? The thieves changed into different costumes and ... Stopped stealing? Fuck there! Everything is legal. And the people, as they lived in shit, continue their life without rights, not understanding, not realizing their miserable prospects ...
        What will change AFTER?! They will wipe their feet and eat them three throats further ... What can you talk about when mediocre millionaires are walking around the Kremlin, condemning someone's opinions and someone's right to another life?
        Okay, those are scoundrels, and these are patriots? What is the expression of this patriotism? What exactly? In "gave all the strength and means to win"? And it's easy to check...
        1. 0
          30 January 2023 14: 45
          Why did they leave Watson? Elementary! Pointed for their property and accounts abroad! Are they traitors or not? After all, Russia gave them a fabulous opportunity to enrich themselves! They got rich. And where is the gratitude? But someone's account was frozen. After Abramovich's arrest, they are also going to confiscate. They hoped to dry their property there? Aha! And earn money there too? There they will be given the opportunity to get rich? What did Putin say about the high salaries of top managers? If they are not paid enough, they will either be lured away or they will run away. Were you lured away with the start of the operation? And what did those who arrested something there or slowed down their business? Did you come to Putin with an offer of all possible assistance to Russia and its army? Where is their resentment against the foreign bourgeois who offended them?
          What is the expression of this patriotism? What exactly? In "gave all the strength and means to win"?
          Is the army financed by Prigozhin alone, or do the rest prefer not to show their faces?
          1. 0
            30 January 2023 15: 45
            They live there. And they get money from here, that's the way it is. And this is not only for those who have gone now, but also for those who have been there for a long time. They are nourished by roots from Russia that cannot be uprooted. Rus' has stood and will stand on this!
    2. +6
      30 January 2023 07: 32
      Boris Borisovich, log out. You slept. There will be no more concerts.
  3. +16
    30 January 2023 04: 48
    but the changed times squeezed the rot out of the country. I would like to believe that all without a trace.

    Not all ... in some places in Russia it still stinks of this rot.
    And so I completely agree with the author of the article. The first steamer with the emigrated intelligentsia was at least some kind of value ... but the second steamer of 2022 is a complete crap of fermented feces ... you look at their faces and see the Sharikovs with a complete lack of mind and what or spirituality.
    And when they start to give out their pearls, it comes to mind again...
    You are at the lowest level of development.

    What is amazing with what aplomb, various actors and artists who have gone to Israel, Europe, the USA pour mud on the country that gave them everything ... education, profession, money, fame ... and when it is necessary to repay her debts in a difficult moment, they flee abroad and wish her and her citizens death ... except for disgust and contempt for such little people, I feel nothing.

    And as a citizen of Russia, I demand that our state from our taxes never give money to such swindlers for their activities.
    1. +10
      30 January 2023 06: 09
      for artists, right now, too, bad times have come ... well, I don’t perceive Kirkorov Kolya Baskov as turbopatriots - conjuncturers. on the other hand, Yurka Shevchuk DDT has more rights for the well. right now, it’s optimal for them to just freeze like that Gazmanov in Dubai ...
      parallels 100 years ago - what would happen to them Bunin Kuprin Chaliapin in the 30s if Gorky Mayakovsky did not survive this
      it's hard to resist when your relatives snatch Nazarov Raikin Yakovleva from you there ..
    2. +1
      30 January 2023 13: 08
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      but the changed times squeezed the rot out of the country. I would like to believe that all without a trace.

      Not all ... in some places in Russia it still stinks of this rot.
      And so I completely agree with the author of the article. The first steamer with the emigrated intelligentsia was at least some kind of value ... but the second steamer of 2022 is a complete crap of fermented feces ... you look at their faces and see the Sharikovs with a complete lack of mind and what or spirituality.
      And when they start to give out their pearls, it comes to mind again...
      You are at the lowest level of development.

      What is amazing with what aplomb, various actors and artists who have gone to Israel, Europe, the USA pour mud on the country that gave them everything ... education, profession, money, fame ... and when it is necessary to repay her debts in a difficult moment, they flee abroad and wish her and her citizens death ... except for disgust and contempt for such little people, I feel nothing.

      And as a citizen of Russia, I demand that our state from our taxes never give money to such swindlers for their activities.

      Now I will say an unpopular thing.
      "Heart of a Dog" is not such an unambiguous work.
      Yes, Sharikov is the most disgusting character, but at the end he said it right, and I asked you to cut my head.
      That is, prof. Preobrazhensky created Sharikov without realizing the consequences. In the end, he admitted that the experiment had failed.
      In my opinion, the more vile character is Shvonder. The foam that the revolution brought up, which is inevitable with such large-scale changes.
      That is, clinging to personal interests.
      It's not Sharikov's fault that he turned out like that. But Shvonder is deliberately like that.
  4. +7
    30 January 2023 04: 56
    It's good that this rot came out. Maybe young and talented people will come to their place in the attention of the public, otherwise these Galkins Grebenshchikovs are a plug in every barrel.
    1. +12
      30 January 2023 05: 12
      changed times squeezed rot out of the country
      "And let them go"!
    2. 0
      30 January 2023 05: 44
      Quote: Former soldier
      It's good that this rot left

      It's like during rectification - everything is g ... but it rises.
      The laws of physics also apply in the social environment. wink
      1. +6
        30 January 2023 07: 34
        It's like during rectification - everything is g ... but it rises.
        A small correction - during rectification, light fractions rise up. Shit pops up when FLOATED. Sorry for the boredom hi
        1. -2
          30 January 2023 11: 16
          Quote: Leader_Barmaleev
          during rectification, light fractions rise up

          Methyl, acetone, various esters - isn't that shit? I spoke about "g ... not" not in a chemical sense, but in a collective sense ... wink
          1. +3
            30 January 2023 11: 48
            I spoke about "g ... not" not in a chemical sense, but in a collective sense ...

            I understood you perfectly, but I could not refrain from making a technological correction. By the way, methanol (not methyl, methyl is a radical), acetone and various ethers are the most valuable chemical raw materials, which cannot be attributed to shit. But all sorts of Makarevichs with Galkins - yes, it is laughing
            1. +2
              30 January 2023 12: 06
              Quote: Leader_Barmaleev
              acetone and various ethers are the most valuable chemical raw materials, which cannot be attributed to shit in any way

              From the point of view of the production of ethyl alcohol, this is crap ... wink
    3. +14
      30 January 2023 06: 27
      Maybe young and talented people will come to their places in the attention of the public
      And to the places of the runaway billionaires and millionaires, more grasping and greedy? smile
      1. 0
        31 January 2023 21: 58
        Maybe young and talented people will come to their places in the attention of the public

        And to the places of the runaway billionaires and millionaires, more grasping and greedy? smile

        Hehe. Billionaires/millionaires have only changed their citizenship and places of residence, but the business has remained here in Russia. You can't just take them off your boobs. sad
    4. +6
      30 January 2023 09: 34
      Quote: Former soldier
      It's good that this rot came out. Maybe young and talented people will come to their place in the attention of the public, otherwise these Galkins Grebenshchikovs are a plug in every barrel.

      I don’t remember the year, somewhere around the end of the 80s. A marvel came to the Union - Willy Tokarev - a "singer" from the gateways of the USA. He gave a concert with broadcast on CT. After the song, where the chorus was the words - "Oh, the tail, I didn't catch the scales," the audience (in Moscow !!!) applauded almost standing up. Turned off the TV. Perplexity. Is it true what you just saw? After all, it is the viewer-listener who creates such "idols". Who forced to applaud the primitive V. Tokarev, Grebenshchikov, the vulgar Galkin and others, and others, and others. Not only that, we also buy tickets for their concerts at a fabulous price, which increases their self-esteem. The maximum ticket price should not exceed 50 - 100 rubles.
      1. +2
        30 January 2023 11: 27
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        Who forced to applaud the primitive

        So the primitive was elevated to the absolute - the people hawala, here the primitive commands everything!
        PS Compared to the current primitive pop, Tokarev is a master of text and melodies!
      2. +6
        30 January 2023 13: 53
        I've never understood why Tsoi respected "Aquarium"? No matter how much I listened - neither the music is interesting, nor the lyrics - it is not clear what and for whom ... I remember watching TV as a child. First they showed BG with some song. Then Kuzmin. And both times the father, who loved all kinds of high-quality music, asked in amazement: is this the king of Russian rock?! And this is Kuzmin - our superguitarist?! I myself heard them, but did not listen - they are not interesting, like Pugacheva. But why are they labeled musical celebrities or even philosophers? Shevchuk sings about the simple, but not primitive, and this catches. And BG... Well, I don't know. Yegor Letov was better. That's why, apparently, he died.
        1. +4
          30 January 2023 17: 55
          "But why are they labeled musical celebrities or even philosophers?" I will answer: corruption, paid reviews and low-grade articles of the so-called glamorous bloggers and bloggers. We read all the time about some pimple who played in the passing series: "Asterisk", not otherwise, or about the provocateur Sobchak: "celebrity." moreover, with aspiration and even in publications like Moskovsky Komsomolets. Honest and educated critics and editors were transferred, and this vulgarity swept the country, formed bad taste among millions of viewers and listeners. Sorry, I recently listened to Angelica Varum’s husband and was dumbfounded: and this we have an idol?!
  5. +28
    30 January 2023 05: 11
    Support for the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Zelensky regime should be deprived of citizenship. With confiscation of property. And, of course, all state awards, if the traitor has any.
    1. 0
      30 January 2023 15: 28
      Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
      Support for the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Zelensky regime should be deprived of citizenship. With confiscation of property. And, of course, all state awards, if the traitor has any.

      Well, you ... no way. This is totalitarianism.
      And we have "democracy" ... threshing.
  6. +2
    30 January 2023 05: 25
    All these are ordinary zeros. Without a wand. But with money...
  7. +17
    30 January 2023 05: 28
    Difficult to get ownership. But if you have received this right, then you are already on horseback. Now they are cursing our country. But when they poured dirt on the Soviets, everything was forgiven them. And they continue to pour it out. So one writer writes that pidofilia flourished in the pioneer detachments. And his books are being sold. There was an abusive article - "The counselor wants a boy." But they can't do anything. The writer has the right to property. You can't even threaten him with a finger. I have no doubt that many of those who scold those who have left will also follow their example if the situation escalates to the limit. They are all made with an eye on money.
    1. +11
      30 January 2023 05: 48
      Who will follow their example? 99% of the population of Russia? The working population? Hunchbacked and earning a living, who?
    2. +23
      30 January 2023 06: 09
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      The writer has the right to property. You can't even threaten him with a finger. I have no doubt that many of those who scold those who have left will also follow their example if the situation escalates to the limit. They are all made with an eye on money.

      You probably meant those representatives of the authorities who first advertised Monetochek would leave, and now they are scolding? Otherwise, your message is difficult to understand.
      With regard to property rights. It's not about him. In the Russian Federation, ownership is generally an oxymoron. At first, property was "squeezed" from the people. Now various mafia clans are "squeezing" it from each other.
      As for "the counselor wants a boy." This is also not about ownership. Imagine instead of this title a book with the title "a Jew wants a boy" and instead of anti-Soviet anti-Jewish propaganda. Will the author be able to publish it and how will "property rights" help him?
      It's about the ideological priorities of the state. Right of ownership is only covered.
      1. +5
        30 January 2023 08: 01
        Belisarius, you are the deepest Respect !!!.well slipped through the comments, otherwise he would have scribbled plagiarism.
    3. +1
      30 January 2023 11: 50
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      But when they poured dirt on the Soviets, everything was forgiven them.

      It was precisely for this that they were paid, that they scolded the communists and the Soviet government. More recently, Khamatova, for a lot of money from Putin, starred in Zuleikha, where she skillfully vulgarized and angered Russians and Tatars.
      1. 0
        30 January 2023 16: 14
        gsev. So it was the Russians and Tatars of the Soviet era. Now everything has been reforged and become stampings. I knew one university teacher, Rail Zakievich, so he was a person whom everyone respected. He was a very human person. All students respected him and wanted to be like him. The standard of a literate and kind-hearted person. In those days, 60 years, everyone was a man, except for Khrushchev and his associates. There was no food in the army. The planes were not flying, the cars were standing. But the main thing for him was when he was praised for his mind and a good life, not for everyone, well, as now.
    4. -1
      30 January 2023 15: 25
      Quote: Nikolai Malyugin
      Difficult to get ownership. But if you have received this right, then you are already on horseback. Now they are cursing our country. But when they poured dirt on the Soviets, everything was forgiven them. And they continue to pour it out. So one writer writes that pidofilia flourished in the pioneer detachments. And his books are being sold. There was an abusive article - "The counselor wants a boy." But they can't do anything. The writer has the right to property. You can't even threaten him with a finger. I have no doubt that many of those who scold those who have left will also follow their example if the situation escalates to the limit. They are all made with an eye on money.

      You probably mean this vulgar thing called "Summer in a pioneer tie."
      It is clear under whom the author caved in under the LGBT community.
      I heard that the book was withdrawn from sale.
      But the deed is done and the author got his loot and fame.
      So you think maybe censorship is really needed.
      Oddly enough, masterpieces were born under Soviet censorship, but now, in the absence of them, where are they? "Blue fat"? Who remembers him.
  8. +16
    30 January 2023 05: 43
    The accents are surprisingly placed. Many of the former Soviets who left, joyfully welcomed the execution of the White House, they were clapped on the shoulder and said well done, now here are the traitors. The author, bypassed many millionaires who dumped abroad, for example A. Chubais .. the truth is not recorded in foreign agents. And today's .. artists and so on, this is a product of modern Russia .. Yes, Shmelev and Ilyin turned out to be "philosophical" .. To whom they erect monuments and lay flowers. The last thing, before sending the philosophical ships there, from there, came "revolutionary" ships, with expelled citizens of those countries that adhered to communist views, it is not customary to talk about this now.
  9. +26
    30 January 2023 05: 58
    It is not entirely clear why Mr. Gyrdymova (aka "Monetochka") is a kind of "elite" and idol. An idol for whom? The same applies to the absolute majority of all those mentioned in the article, except probably Grebenshchikov. So the departure of these citizens does not matter at all, they left and God bless them, you just should not pay the slightest attention to them.
    But the fact that the Russian Federation retains an economic structure in which most of the value created here is transferred to the West (the classic structure of the economy of a country of peripheral capitalism), and the fact that with the beginning of the NWO, the outflow of capital from the Russian Federation and those who control them only intensified, this is a problem. Simply put, the problem is why the conditional Chubais left, and not the conditional Monetochka.
    1. +12
      30 January 2023 06: 23
      Simply put, the problem is why the conditional Chubais left, and not the conditional Monetochka.
      Chubais, this is not rotten and the same, it's different .. smile Here the other day, I saw the news on the "web", the general director of the Taganrog military plant fled, taking with him 100 lyams withdrawn from the accounts of the enterprise. It was published on a Russian resource .. I can’t say it’s fake, not fake ... It wasn’t promoted further.
      1. +11
        30 January 2023 07: 00
        Quote: parusnik
        Here the other day, I saw the news on the "web", the general director of the Taganrog military plant fled, taking with him 100 lyams withdrawn from the accounts of the enterprise. It was published on a Russian resource

        I haven't seen this post, but it could be. There were a lot of such cases, the only surprise is the pettiness of the amount. 100 million is not much, or not everyone was found, or this is the last thing that could be withdrawn from the enterprise.
        In general, the same behavior: stole here - brought it to the West rate in RF. Those who do not do so are looked down upon as dangerous lunatics.
        The only difference is that if you are in the "cage", then you did not run away, but simply "work" from abroad, like the conditional Abramovich or the mayor of Khabarovsk Sokolov, who lived most of the time in the USA, which did not in the least prevent him from leading the city for 18 years and push about patriotism, a multipolar world and the fight against the United States.
        But if you fell out of the cage and lost in the mafia fight, then that's all - you ran away, everything becomes known about you, and your assets are squeezed out here, leaving only what you managed to withdraw before.
        1. +4
          30 January 2023 13: 02
          100 million is not much
          5 room house in London. Many who have reached the point of "stealing a malyaon and dumping" are simply unaware that the value of money where they are dumped is completely different.
        2. +1
          30 January 2023 15: 15
          Quote: Belisarius
          Quote: parusnik
          Here the other day, I saw the news on the "web", the general director of the Taganrog military plant fled, taking with him 100 lyams withdrawn from the accounts of the enterprise. It was published on a Russian resource

          I haven't seen this post, but it could be. There were a lot of such cases, the only surprise is the pettiness of the amount. 100 million is not much, or not everyone was found, or this is the last thing that could be withdrawn from the enterprise.
          In general, the same behavior: stole here - brought it to the West rate in RF. Those who do not do so are looked down upon as dangerous lunatics.
          The only difference is that if you are in the "cage", then you did not run away, but simply "work" from abroad, like the conditional Abramovich or the mayor of Khabarovsk Sokolov, who lived most of the time in the USA, which did not in the least prevent him from leading the city for 18 years and push about patriotism, a multipolar world and the fight against the United States.
          But if you fell out of the cage and lost in the mafia fight, then that's all - you ran away, everything becomes known about you, and your assets are squeezed out here, leaving only what you managed to withdraw before.

          Well, it was not in vain that Khodorkovsky said that Russia was just a "hunting area" for them.
      2. +9
        30 January 2023 09: 08
        So if this is really further promoted when the SVO is on, then even non-believers will see that the king is really naked. About 1,5 million sets of uniforms somehow also quickly died out. hi
    2. +11
      30 January 2023 08: 15
      The fact of the matter is that it was not a conditional red-haired evil spirits that left, but a specific person! So after all, he was GIVEN to dump, how after such situations to BELIEVE promising from TV ?! My answer is DON'T BELIEVE IT AGAIN! hi
      1. +1
        30 January 2023 15: 12
        Quote: Alien From
        The fact of the matter is that it was not a conditional red-haired evil spirits that left, but a specific person! So after all, he was GIVEN to dump, how after such situations to BELIEVE promising from TV ?! My answer is DON'T BELIEVE IT AGAIN! hi

        They gave the dump not only to him. Navskid - Larionov, Kozyrev, Smolensky, Gusinsky, etc. It can take a long time to list.
    3. +1
      30 January 2023 11: 53
      Quote: Belisarius
      It is not entirely clear why Mr. Gyrdymova (aka "Monetochka") is a kind of "elite" and idol.

      She skillfully and professionally introduced Western values ​​into the minds of Russians. That is what she was paid for until very recently.
      1. +2
        30 January 2023 16: 07
        She is not alone. For the sake of interest, look at the monster under the nickname Instasamka and be completely amazed. But they influence the youth...
      2. 0
        30 January 2023 16: 29
        gsev. At the age of 60, he worked at one mailbox, as a turner. The plant undertook to fulfill the plan by 103%, but fulfilled by 102% did not fulfill its obligations by 1%. All workers did not receive bonus and high managers, including Khrushchev's order. The following year, they fulfilled the plan by 104%, everyone received bonuses, and the bosses received three and four salaries. They went to a restaurant to celebrate at the weekend. And the hard workers were driven to the collective farm to help harvest. It's good that we went. The collective farmers helped us, gathered us together and treated us to such dinners with such products that we had not seen for several months. We were very happy that what we collected would end up in stores, they got into the poppies. Everything was taken to Moscow.
  10. +38
    30 January 2023 06: 29
    The orders and their order bearers are very opportunely mentioned.
    For a long time now, the people have been slowly boiling with irritation from the next reports from the St. George's Hall about the awards
    Well, it's clear who.
    Order after order is received by singers, showmen, directors, and other "bohemians".
    And among those awarded, there is no milkmaid Aunt Dusi, a pattern maker Petrovich, who, without any computers, marks the shell of the very rocket, which is "analogue".
    They will not remember turners and millers, bakers and city bus drivers, dock workers (have you forgotten such a word?). All those who are the essence of the power of the Motherland.
    Yes, a dozen years ago they introduced the title of Hero of Labor.
    And ... it rolled - general designers (I have nothing against them), academicians, high officials.
    And now we beat the grandmother.
    Many "honored", incl. and artists somewhere on the other side of the barricade.
    And Aunt Dusya and Petrovich are still in their places. And the children were brought into the profession. And even grandchildren.
    So whom did our government glorify and glorify?
    Not those, right?
    Yes, those who need it.
    This is because the very content of power is SUCH.
    Whom he relies on, he rewards.
    That is, now it is quite natural to reap the fruits of their own work, mind, and aspirations.
    So why blame the mirror, if the mug ... in all TVs?
    1. +9
      30 January 2023 07: 21
      The best comment! Everything stated is absolutely correct.
    2. +7
      30 January 2023 09: 16
      And there is no among the awarded milkmaid Aunt Dusi, Petrovich's pattern maker, who, without any computers, marks the shell of the rocket itself, which is "analogue"

      It would be interesting to know the class composition of the State Duma ... how many workers and peasants are there now. what
    3. +13
      30 January 2023 09: 30
      Everything is fine. And then, as it should be at a critical moment: brothers and sisters... smile
      1. -1
        30 January 2023 15: 06
        Quote: I_Kov
        Everything is fine. And then, as it should be at a critical moment: brothers and sisters... smile

        Now this will not work.
    4. +4
      30 January 2023 12: 46
      Well, in 1991 they did a counter-revolutionary coup to stop rewarding milkmaids, collective farmers and hard workers, and to reward bankers, traders, and speculators
    5. +5
      30 January 2023 12: 54
      Quote: U-58
      So whom did our government glorify and glorify?

      Weird question. What power, such and glorifies. wink
      It was in the USSR that they glorified a person of labor, such as the milkmaid Aunt Dusya, because the power was people's.
      1. 0
        30 January 2023 14: 34
        I do not agree about the people. In the USSR, there were also "ilites", clans also existed, and the majors were also attached to "warm" places. There was also corruption. Another thing is that it was "shameful" and illegal. And they could be punished for it. Well, or at least do "a-ta-ta" if you started "borzet out of order" ...
        Again, it was not so massive and, how to say, not so impudent. And they didn't brag about it. And yes, social elevators still worked better for a larger number of the population ...
    6. 0
      30 January 2023 15: 10
      Quote: U-58
      The orders and their order bearers are very opportunely mentioned.
      For a long time now, the people have been slowly boiling with irritation from the next reports from the St. George's Hall about the awards
      Well, it's clear who.
      Order after order is received by singers, showmen, directors, and other "bohemians".
      And among those awarded, there is no milkmaid Aunt Dusi, a pattern maker Petrovich, who, without any computers, marks the shell of the very rocket, which is "analogue".
      They will not remember turners and millers, bakers and city bus drivers, dock workers (have you forgotten such a word?). All those who are the essence of the power of the Motherland.
      Yes, a dozen years ago they introduced the title of Hero of Labor.
      And ... it rolled - general designers (I have nothing against them), academicians, high officials.
      And now we beat the grandmother.
      Many "honored", incl. and artists somewhere on the other side of the barricade.
      And Aunt Dusya and Petrovich are still in their places. And the children were brought into the profession. And even grandchildren.
      So whom did our government glorify and glorify?
      Not those, right?
      Yes, those who need it.
      This is because the very content of power is SUCH.
      Whom he relies on, he rewards.
      That is, now it is quite natural to reap the fruits of their own work, mind, and aspirations.
      So why blame the mirror, if the mug ... in all TVs?

      Fiomy about whom? Managers, rich men, bandits, corrupt cops, and so on.
      The only one about hard workers, if I remember correctly, "Truckers".
      1. +2
        30 January 2023 16: 58
        So yes. Everything is according to the Hollywood model: owners of firms and restaurants, designers, businesswomen, incinerating objectionable ones with one glance, and simply empty beauty, preoccupied exclusively with personal washing ..
        I can’t even imagine how they would shoot “Afonya” now
    7. -2
      30 January 2023 16: 35
      U-58. You are so talking about slaves and those who are confused under the feet of power, as about people. The power of the people is over, forget about everything. It had to be believed by those whom Stalin wanted to put into reserve. KPSSosi. We then thought they were!
  11. +14
    30 January 2023 06: 34
    Boris Grebenshchikov, performer of "Golden City" and "This train is on fire." A crazy old man collects millions of dollars at the Brandenburg Gate for the needs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and calls the Russians "fascists".

    When great scientists, engineers, creators leave the country, it is a pain and a loss for the country. When "pop music" and various clowns, such as Galkin, Makarevich, Kasparov, leave the country, this is the cleansing of the country from slag, let the West eat this shit with a full spoon, he loves to eat it.
    1. -3
      30 January 2023 11: 56
      Quote: carpenter
      When great scientists, engineers, creators leave the country, it is a pain and a loss for the country. When "pop music" and various clowns, such as Galkin, Makarevich, Kasparov, leave the country, this is a cleansing of the country

      Unfortunately, the authorities apparently do not leave or remain ignorant of scientists and engineers. Bohemia is what she cares about.
      1. +1
        30 January 2023 12: 45
        It's just that pop music is in plain sight and is known, which actually conveniently distracts from all sorts of moneybags with dual citizenship near the authorities, who continue to pull money from Russia.
        1. 0
          30 January 2023 16: 38
          Mikhail Krivopalov. They, pop music, are constantly shown on TV. Vysotsky called him - a stupid box for idiots.
      2. -1
        30 January 2023 15: 05
        Quote: gsev
        Quote: carpenter
        When great scientists, engineers, creators leave the country, it is a pain and a loss for the country. When "pop music" and various clowns, such as Galkin, Makarevich, Kasparov, leave the country, this is a cleansing of the country

        Unfortunately, the authorities apparently do not leave or remain ignorant of scientists and engineers. Bohemia is what she cares about.

        You are not quite right. For example, the government creates preferences for IT specialists.
        Probably not enough, but as much as Russia is not able to testify there.
        And some scientists come back, get laboratories, and so on.
        Although of course this is not a mass character.
    2. +4
      30 January 2023 13: 00
      Quote: carpenter
      let the west eat this shit with a full spoon, he loves to eat it

      Didn't wonder who raises and cherishes, as you put it, "this is crap"? West? laughing
      Maybe "spiritual patriots" who enter or are directly at the trough of power? Flowers to the Yeltsin Center and to the "wailing" walls, because they wear both "shit" and "patriots" together. wink
      1. 0
        30 January 2023 16: 44
        By all tricks they want to tell the people that we allow you to watch what they could not watch under Soviet power. And people eat it, chew it and burp it. A country with universal literacy, into which this literacy was driven in by force, suddenly became so stupid, because they deceived, and the people used to believe. That will be much better than before. The authorities were a little afraid, and then they dispersed. The authorities led the people by the nose and led them to hell. Who is to blame for this, that half of the people, or maybe more, are needed for the war, to replace the dead.
  12. +4
    30 January 2023 06: 36
    If these are the mind lords, then I have bad news for their fans.
  13. +18
    30 January 2023 06: 46
    And who will remember the passengers of the philosophical ship? Or rather, there were five ships and they left, or rather, about 270 people were asked to leave. Those who did not emigrate earlier, namely passengers. Well, maybe Ilyin will be remembered ... that's all. But how fashionable to remember, but in fact "the detachment did not notice the loss of a fighter."
    As a person who is fond of architecture, I do not remember a single significant architect who left Russia. All were in demand. Shukhov and Shekhtel, Dubovskoy and Klein, Shchusev and Zholtovsky... you can list for a long time.

    And we need to change the flag to Red, there is no motivation to fight for the tricolor.
    1. 0
      30 January 2023 12: 01
      Quote: Konnick
      Those who did not emigrate earlier, namely passengers. Well, maybe Ilyin will be remembered ... that's all. But how fashionable to remember, but in fact "the detachment did not notice the loss of a fighter."

      The USSR was destroyed by the manipulation of the consciousness of the Soviet people. It was precisely the weakness of the humanities - philosophy, political science, sociology, political economy - that made the communist defenseless against capitalist Western propaganda. When designing nuclear missile weapons, Beria and Stalin were forced to decide to give physicists and mathematicians scientific freedom. This has not been done in biology and political science.
    2. +4
      30 January 2023 13: 16
      Quote: Konnick
      And we need to change the flag to Red, there is no motivation to fight for the tricolor.

      In order for the flag to be Red, to begin with, the power must be Red, not White.
      If, under the White regime, the Red Flag is raised, then this gesture can be regarded by the authorities as "rocking the boat", which is a criminal offense. wink
    3. +1
      30 January 2023 17: 03
      ........ And we need to change the flag to Red, there is no motivation to fight for the tricolor ..... ++++++
  14. +11
    30 January 2023 06: 49
    Why discuss the hypocrites, buffoons and buffoons, who fled abroad from fear. Better think about how many hidden traitors and agents dress up as patriots and statesmen, that's where the trouble is.
    1. +13
      30 January 2023 10: 57
      Indeed, who harmed the country more, Galkin and Grebenshchikov or those thieves who stole 1,5 million uniforms? Or those who cover for these thieves?
      People, is it really incomprehensible that the enemies are thieves and their patrons. And here again an article distracting people from the true problems.
      1. +1
        30 January 2023 13: 02
        Quote: Fan-Fan
        distracting people from the real problems.

        Some kind of Monetochka left, which I only found out about here. Grebenshchikov left with his Old Man Kozlodoev, Galkin - "A canary from someone else's voice, a miserable funny trinket" - and let them! And the fact that the former state is leaving. figures, having taken billions and state secrets, are modestly silent about this .... Not to mention the billions that have leaked abroad ... All this is sad ...
        1. 0
          30 January 2023 16: 51
          Uncle Lee. You forgot to write about how billions were earned. It is necessary to write - earned by overwork, like slaves in a galley! Finally, they escaped from the galley and dropped anchor in the nearby ports, there is no need to cry, they will return. The owner of the galley hired another galley crew.
      2. -1
        30 January 2023 15: 00
        Quote: Fan-Fan
        Indeed, who harmed the country more, Galkin and Grebenshchikov or those thieves who stole 1,5 million uniforms? Or those who cover for these thieves?
        People, is it really incomprehensible that the enemies are thieves and their patrons. And here again an article distracting people from the true problems.

        Both should be punished.
        Everyone screwed up in their own way.
        And to say that they say this one has spoiled less and therefore it can be forgiven, this is not correct.
        1. 0
          30 January 2023 18: 15
          Ulan.1812. It is necessary to judge not by one article of all, but by the severity of the harm done. Some just fled. Others stole and fled. They didn't rob the government, they robbed the people. Now the people are not protecting those who escaped, but quite the opposite, who stole what could protect the people.
          1. -1
            30 January 2023 19: 02
            Quote: zenion
            Ulan.1812. It is necessary to judge not by one article of all, but by the severity of the harm done. Some just fled. Others stole and fled. They didn't rob the government, they robbed the people. Now the people are not protecting those who escaped, but quite the opposite, who stole what could protect the people.

            Of course, well, that's what I'm talking about. It is necessary to judge by the gravity of the crime, but the inevitability of punishment must be.
  15. +11
    30 January 2023 06: 56
    This must be treated philosophically - she died, she died like that. But in no case not in the way that Peskov suggests: "... the authorities of the Russian Federation should act in such a way that citizens who have left the country want to return." So they fled when hard times came in the country, while many pour mud on Russia, and the government is obliged to fight for them and create conditions for their return? Really "blizzard bears".
    1. +4
      30 January 2023 07: 04
      So think about whether S. Tarmashev writes fiction.
      Parasites overboard.
      Everyone forges his own destiny.
    2. +3
      30 January 2023 08: 07
      It’s clear with sandy .. a Jew won’t bite a Jew’s eye ..
    3. +3
      30 January 2023 13: 05
      they fled when hard times came in the country, while many pour mud on Russia
      And many at the same time say (on their forums) that they will return to Russia (they use a different name) when everything calms down. Some even say that they will return when Ukraine wins.
  16. +6
    30 January 2023 07: 20
    Here is Gumilyov. I did not emigrate anywhere. He did not resist social change. Didn't inform on my friends. Was shot.
    "Ah, otherwise in the old days the Earth conjured with Heaven.
    Miraculous miracles matured then, marvelous divas acted themselves ... "

    The current representatives of mass culture are just servants of the financially wealthy pseudo-elite.
    1. +3
      30 January 2023 08: 09
      He didn’t know how to choose friends, since they cheated him so that he got under a bullet.
      1. 0
        30 January 2023 18: 23
        Guran33 Sergey. 33 heroes decided that in vain they took care of forests and seas. Everyone took a piece of clothing for himself, started chickens and sat in it, guarding his inheritance, out of work. And the mermaid, that's the case, did not take care of her honor for long and once, as best she could, gave birth. 33 heroes do not want to know their son, let him consider the son of the regiment for now. You calm down, calm down the longing in my chest, this is just a saying, a fairy tale ahead. V. Vysotsky.
  17. +8
    30 January 2023 07: 23
    "Nevertheless, no one denies that there were many geniuses among those who left Bolshevik Russia - Fedor Chaliapin, Nikolai Berdyaev, Semyon Frank, Nikolai Lossky"

    Except Chaliapin, who traveled back and forth.
    All the other "geniuses and philosophers of the Mtsensk district", unknown to anyone in the world, are small-town "philosophers".
    1. +8
      30 January 2023 07: 29
      Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
      All other "geniuses and philosophers of the Mtsensk district"

      All the rest are those whom V. I. Lenin once called g ... om ...
      1. +4
        30 January 2023 11: 17
        How stupid to think like that. So Zworykin and Sikorsky left and Russia lost its leadership in aircraft and helicopter manufacturing. And in the USA, Zworykin became famous for developing television, a night vision device and a telecontrol system for planning bombs. But all these technologies could have appeared in our country if these people had not left.
        1. +1
          30 January 2023 12: 47
          And in the USA, Zworykin became famous for developing television, a night vision device and a telecontrol system for planning bombs. But all these technologies could have appeared in our country if these people had not left.
          And in the thirties, f. RCA, which was led by Zworykin, massively built factories for the production of radio components in the USSR and helped organize the conveyor assembly of radio equipment. So, not everything is so clear.
          1. 0
            30 January 2023 14: 52
            Quote: Ua3qhp
            And in the USA, Zworykin became famous for developing television, a night vision device and a telecontrol system for planning bombs. But all these technologies could have appeared in our country if these people had not left.
            And in the thirties, f. RCA, which was led by Zworykin, massively built factories for the production of radio components in the USSR and helped organize the conveyor assembly of radio equipment. So, not everything is so clear.

            As far as I remember, it was not Zworykin who transmitted the first television picture.
            I forgot the engineer's name.
        2. +4
          30 January 2023 13: 08
          Zworykin and Sikorsky left
          And the son of the railway worker Mil became a helicopter builder. And in Russia, which we have lost, he would be an ordinary railwayman.
          1. +1
            30 January 2023 14: 51
            Quote: Bolt Cutter
            Zworykin and Sikorsky left
            And the son of the railway worker Mil became a helicopter builder. And in Russia, which we have lost, he would be an ordinary railwayman.

            Kamov .... Bratukhin.
            1. 0
              30 January 2023 15: 06
              Kamov..
              A native of a wealthy family (and according to his father, yes) he would have got out anyway. Bratukhin is another example that Russia would not have remained without talent.
        3. 0
          30 January 2023 14: 54
          Quote: Fan-Fan
          How stupid to think like that. So Zworykin and Sikorsky left and Russia lost its leadership in aircraft and helicopter manufacturing. And in the USA, Zworykin became famous for developing television, a night vision device and a telecontrol system for planning bombs. But all these technologies could have appeared in our country if these people had not left.

          Russia has not lost its leadership in the aircraft and helicopter industries.
          Russia lost all this under Yeltsin. Now we're chasing.
          1. 0
            30 January 2023 18: 28
            I want a palace to heaven, you're a devil for that. He says that we are not at all trained in these matters, and there are no miracles other than scuffles. You lie, I scream, you play pranks, I scream, well, the spirit is in ambition. He knocked once, a specialist, you can see from him. Of course, I ran, called the police, they kill me, I say, right at home. Then they went, showed the asp, he could not do anything against the police. The sick man was taken out, his hands behind his back, and they were thrown into a black funnel with a flourish. V. Vysotsky.
        4. 0
          1 February 2023 10: 02
          Zworykin issued a patent for a TV set in Russia. While working at Saratov State University.
  18. +15
    30 January 2023 07: 26
    For example, the once respected Boris Grebenshchikov, performer of "Golden City" and "This train is on fire."

    While BG was carrying anti-Soviet and with his "This train is on fire" and "I don't know why and who needs it" helped to topple the Soviet power - he was at court.
    As a split occurred in the anti-Soviet camp, he immediately became a "crazy old man."
    1. +8
      30 January 2023 07: 33
      While BG was carrying anti-Soviet and with his "This train is on fire" and "I don't know why and who needs it" helped to topple the Soviet power - he was at court.
      As a split occurred in the anti-Soviet camp, he immediately became a "crazy old man."


      And the Golden City is not his song. You can listen to Grebenshchikov only under anesthesia, alcohol or alcohol
      1. +2
        30 January 2023 08: 23
        In general, bg is consistent - he fights against any government in my country (although he didn’t butt heads with ebn) and tries to live away from Israel and the Russian Federation
      2. +2
        30 January 2023 11: 17
        Quote: Konnick
        And the Golden City is not his song.

        and "I don't know why and who needs it" the same, this is Vertinsky
    2. +5
      30 January 2023 08: 25
      While the BG was spreading anti-Soviet sentiments, many cultural figures, favored by the Soviet government, kept a fig in their pocket and acted very ugly after the execution of the White House.
      Letter of forty-two ”- an appeal by a group of respected writers to fellow citizens, which also contained demands on Yeltsin. The initiators, among whom were such popular public figures as Bulat Okudzhava, Robert Rozhdestvensky, Dmitry Likhachev, Daniil Granin, Bella Akhmadullina and others, categorically approved the shooting of the White House and called for the most severe measures to be taken against the supporters of the Armed Forces.
      1. +1
        30 January 2023 14: 48
        Quote: Waterways 672
        While the BG was spreading anti-Soviet sentiments, many cultural figures, favored by the Soviet government, kept a fig in their pocket and acted very ugly after the execution of the White House.
        Letter of forty-two ”- an appeal by a group of respected writers to fellow citizens, which also contained demands on Yeltsin. The initiators, among whom were such popular public figures as Bulat Okudzhava, Robert Rozhdestvensky, Dmitry Likhachev, Daniil Granin, Bella Akhmadullina and others, categorically approved the shooting of the White House and called for the most severe measures to be taken against the supporters of the Armed Forces.

        I would also add Gleb Panfilov, who, for the sake of a lousy Western award, removed the anti-Soviet on Solzhenitsyn.
  19. +9
    30 January 2023 07: 34
    How the enemies of the communists and the USSR, with their hypocritical "righteous anger", set up for the "crime" of the Soviet government that people like them left the RSFSR / USSR and wanted to leave, and how they all don't care that they are the same, how they leave the Russian Federation, and at the same time they expose this as a "crime" of those who left.
  20. +2
    30 January 2023 07: 40
    And how many who returned were repressed in the 30s?
    1. +3
      30 January 2023 08: 08
      The enemies of the USSR, who captured the USSR, have been proving by their own example for 35 years that the Bolsheviks-Communists did everything right, including the fact that it immediately became clear from Perestroika that it was only 10-15 years after the relative completion of the unleashed by external and internal enemies The Soviet government of the Civil War, and many decades later, in the USSR / on the territory of the former USSR, a huge number of criminals and enemies of their country and people.
      And the enemies of Soviet power themselves, after they seized the USSR, carry out political repressions and will never recognize this as their crimes.
      1. +2
        30 January 2023 12: 43
        Well, what do you want, if the favorite philosopher of those in power, the fascist Ivan Ilyin, who was expelled from the country on a philosophical ship in 1922, and who worked successfully for several years for the German Nazis in the Goebels department. Indeed, the more anti-communist a person is, the closer he is to fascism, since there is no more effective anti-communist than a fascist! Well, the best anti-fascist is a communist!
    2. +5
      30 January 2023 08: 13
      Quote: Michael Ya2
      And how many who returned were repressed in the 30s?

      For some reason, this question is asked a thousand times, and the question "was this done according to Soviet laws?" no one asks...
      What, according to Soviet laws, all innocent people were supposed to be imprisoned, and all the guilty were to be released?
    3. +4
      30 January 2023 08: 17
      In the TV series "gangster Petersburg" there is an episode where they put a gun and sit down at the cop there is such a good remark - "nothing to drink with just anyone" for most of the "repressed" this is relevant. Moreover, good apartments in the center of Moscow are now expensive even then
    4. -2
      30 January 2023 08: 53
      And how many who returned were repressed in the 30s?

      And how many?
  21. +23
    30 January 2023 07: 52
    Oh, it's a pity the cons for becoming tolerantly removed. Yes, I don’t give a damn about Grebenshchikov and Galkin. But where is Chubais? And why does Nabiullina rule the country? Now the deputies have passed the law. do not show your income. This is what they need. Why not pass a law banning the bankruptcy of enterprises producing military products.
    And Fedorov shifts the arrows from the true enemies of Russia to the meaningless riff-raff.
  22. +7
    30 January 2023 08: 21
    The author is well done, of course. I just hasten to remind you that not only "celebrities" who earn by mouth left the country, but thousands of really needed people, medium and highly paid professionals.
    I just want to remind you that the country does not live at the expense of teachers, the military, doctors and other state employees.
    1. 0
      30 January 2023 08: 34
      Most of the IT specialists who dumped them worked for foreign companies or were engaged in nonsense like endless applications and digitalization. In place of the sovereign government, it is necessary to abolish the copyright law for all hostile countries and use pirated / copied software like 15 years ago
      1. 0
        30 January 2023 12: 04
        In order to successfully use pirated software, you must first bypass the protection, adapt it, and in case of use in serious areas, and not toys and drawing games, constantly support it, and much more. For all this, IT specialists are also needed, and if they dumped, then you can’t even have pirated software.
    2. +1
      30 January 2023 14: 41
      Quote: GRIGORIY76
      The author is well done, of course. I just hasten to remind you that not only "celebrities" who earn by mouth left the country, but thousands of really needed people, medium and highly paid professionals.
      I just want to remind you that the country does not live at the expense of teachers, the military, doctors and other state employees.

      Eka how do you stroke the teachers, the military. doctors were written down in useless ballast.
      But Bismarck said that the Franco-Prussian war was won by a teacher.
      Who teaches professionals? A teacher, a teacher, they don't grow by themselves.
      There are no professionals without education.
      Well and further on the list.
      So you are wrong, dear, the country also lives at the expense of teachers, doctors, including the military, who must also be professionals in their activities.
      1. +1
        30 January 2023 15: 23
        But Bismarck said that the Franco-Prussian war was won by a teacher.
        Not Bismarck and about another war.
        1. -1
          30 January 2023 18: 57
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          But Bismarck said that the Franco-Prussian war was won by a teacher.
          Not Bismarck and about another war.

          Well, not Bismarck. Thanks for the fix.
          Only my post was about something else.
      2. 0
        30 January 2023 18: 35
        Ulan.1812. You forgot what Lenin said about cinema. Goebbels used it for the policy of the Reich.
        1. -1
          30 January 2023 18: 55
          Quote: zenion
          Ulan.1812. You forgot what Lenin said about cinema. Goebbels used it for the policy of the Reich.

          I haven't forgotten anything. Memory hasn't failed me yet.
  23. +3
    30 January 2023 08: 25
    Quote: Belisarius
    . Imagine instead of this title a book with the title "a Jew wants a boy" and instead of anti-Soviet anti-Jewish propaganda.

    There is an article in INOsmi how Catholic priests had boys ... with the testimony of the victims.
  24. +5
    30 January 2023 08: 25
    "In general, today's migrants have become rather thin, no matter what they build out of themselves."

    The word "liquid" is much more capacious and ambiguous in the context of the content of the article than it might seem at first ...
  25. 0
    30 January 2023 08: 31
    Quote: tatra
    the Bolsheviks-communists did everything right

    But was Bukharin, the favorite of the Bolshevik Party, shot right?
    Rykov, Zinoviev, Kamenev, Yenukidze, etc...but it was the color of the Bolshevik Party...why was it necessary to kill them?
    1. +3
      30 January 2023 08: 52
      Once again, the enemies of the USSR and the Soviet people from Perestroika prove how many criminals and enemies of their country and people are among them. If it didn’t reach, I’ll clarify, including those who, for the sake of profit and career, pretended to be communists and their supporters for years and decades, and they themselves were just waiting in the wings to destroy everything that the Soviet people did. And they waited.
    2. +5
      30 January 2023 10: 13
      Why was General Rokhlin killed? And then killed his killers? They didn't last until the morning...
      And what about the death of General Lebed?
    3. -1
      30 January 2023 14: 32
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Quote: tatra
      the Bolsheviks-communists did everything right

      But was Bukharin, the favorite of the Bolshevik Party, shot right?
      Rykov, Zinoviev, Kamenev, Yenukidze, etc...but it was the color of the Bolshevik Party...why was it necessary to kill them?

      In order to answer this question, you need to carefully study the criminal case. According to Bukharin, I read that he spoiled a lot along the line of the Comintern.
    4. +1
      30 January 2023 18: 37
      Lech from Android. But the poppy is also a flower. He can heal and he can kill.
      1. -1
        30 January 2023 18: 54
        Quote: zenion
        Lech from Android. But the poppy is also a flower. He can heal and he can kill.

        That's for sure,,,,, ,
  26. -2
    30 January 2023 08: 42
    The winds of change swept some of the rabble out of the country (thoughtful cunning lurked). Another plus in the CBO piggy bank. There is nothing too romantic about the first wave of emigration. And there were enough bastards. For one decent thousand loafers, thieves, executioners and other rabble. And the current thousand has shrunk into a hundred (directly "heavenly") and did without a decent one.
  27. 0
    30 January 2023 08: 44
    Quote: E. Fedorov
    Exodus of knowledge workers from Russia

    As they say: "I died, so I died."

    About types of work:
    Labor is managerial and productive.

    The result of the activities of managers at all levels is an increase in the well-being of citizens.
    The result of productive labor: a writer - a book, an artist - a picture, a comedian - a reprise, a turner - a detail, a tractor driver - a crop, etc.

    Is it possible for a mason to lay down a stove without a mind? Can a carpenter without a mind build a house? No - they can't. "Intellectual" labor is present in any profession.

    Mr. Fedorov. To endow "bohemians" (Exodus from Russia of intellectual workers) with intelligence, honor and conscience - do you think this means that the smart ones left, but who do you think stayed? By the way, where are you, have you already left or are you still hoping for something?

    Mad manager - woe to employees.
    Crazy workers - woe to the manager.
  28. -4
    30 January 2023 08: 57
    Quote: tatra
    If it didn’t reach, I’ll clarify, including those who, for the sake of profit and career, pretended to be communists and their supporters for years and decades, and they themselves were just waiting in the wings to destroy everything that the Soviet people did. And they waited.

    Maybe so ... but why was it to kill them?
    Physically, they did not pose a danger ... it was possible to use their knowledge and skills in sharashkas ... but they shot and turned a person to dust ... the country did not get better from this. hi
    1. +1
      30 January 2023 09: 02
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      it was possible to apply their knowledge and skills in sharashkas ..

      This is why the Trotskyists killed, so that Russia would never compete with anyone else. Beria organized sharashkas and saved many smart people from death.
      1. +2
        30 January 2023 13: 24
        Quote: Boris55
        Beria organized sharashkas and saved many smart people from death.

        And in these sharashkas, a lot was done for the shield and sword of the country!
    2. +1
      30 January 2023 11: 23
      Do not make me laugh . The enemies of the USSR after the capture of the USSR proved that you do not need any "knowledge and skills", you do not need honest, smart, talented, responsible, good professionals at work, statesmen.
  29. +15
    30 January 2023 09: 01
    Defamation in the spirit of the 30s. People have their own, different from the official, point of view on what is happening in the country. They were not afraid to openly express their thoughts. And they were forced to leave, rightly fearing for their safety. They didn't run away from orders. Much greater hostility is caused by officials of various levels, who hide their children from mobilization in the territories of unfriendly countries with a mild climate.
    1. -5
      30 January 2023 09: 05
      Quote from ivan_zaitcew
      People have their own, different from the official, point of view on what is happening in the country. They were not afraid to openly express their thoughts.

      How one, at the same time, on a call from Washington, broke out abroad ... Do you think that this was their position? Then in FIG we need such an intelligentsia that protects the interests of our enemies?
      1. +10
        30 January 2023 09: 36
        Then in FIG we need such an intelligentsia that protects the interests of our enemies?
        Did they bring the country to the handle? On a call from Washington? The Chinese produce "Moskvich" from their components, is this normal? Russian cosmonauts went to the ISS, on American spacecraft they also did it, the purchase of UAVs from Iran, are they to blame? Sailed capital from the country, again they?
  30. 0
    30 January 2023 09: 03
    Galkin, Grebshchikov, Chubaich, Kasparov, Smolyaninov and many others who left have one common feature that everyone knows about, but does not talk about.
  31. -11
    30 January 2023 09: 07
    Then the best minds of our Motherland really left Russia. And most of them did not save from the "wall"! Sooner or later. But now Russia has washed away the contents of the toilet. And if the Yekaterinburg province still bears the name of the leader of the organized criminal group of the Russian Empire, then liberal bastards rule there.
    1. +10
      30 January 2023 09: 31
      Then the best minds of our Motherland really left Russia.
      Especially Ilyin, the future ROVS ideologist, well, etc. The president is now reading him, erecting monuments to him, laying flowers ..
  32. +9
    30 January 2023 09: 09
    The lard taken out of the country is not a betrayal, it is earned by honest labor .. He took money out of the country and fled himself and is no longer a traitor .. smile
  33. +16
    30 January 2023 09: 13
    The author skillfully manipulates well-known surnames that were not something forming in the country, well, they left and okay, that's right ... but where is the mention of 3 million compatriots who literally left in three months? there were scientists and doctors and many others ... and even better, it is necessary to raise the numbers of those who left the country, say, since 1992, when the Democrats and liberals came ... this is over 25 million Russian people ... let's tell the truth, in the country For 30 years there has been no improvement in the bulk of people's lives, constant instability, wars, devaluations and much more ... that's what we need to talk about and not about Grebenshchikov
    1. +13
      30 January 2023 09: 45
      The author does not manipulate the author simply writes on fashionable and safe topics lol
    2. +2
      30 January 2023 13: 14
      about 3 million compatriots who left in three months literally? there were scientists and doctors and many who
      I rummaged through the public pages of those who had just left ... I ate fish soup laughing Nutritionists, baristas, barbers... Sometimes sysadmins and "software developers" ran past with an empty portfolio. And all these clowns yell in unison - why, unlike the Khakhlov, they are not allowed into Europe and how to make money in Georgia.
      1. 0
        30 January 2023 15: 56
        no one said that 3 million are exclusively elite) no, of course, and clowns and so on, everything is there ... but I think there are not a lot of them, just a screaming part that sticks out itself)
  34. 0
    30 January 2023 09: 42
    Historians claim that almost 190 who left during the years of revolutionary unrest returned back in a couple of years. And all those who have the sense to return to their homeland should be given an appropriate reception.

    Among those who returned was the "unsinkable general" Krylov. He did not fall under repression, he died in Leningrad in 1942.
    1. +1
      30 January 2023 12: 39
      Among those who returned was the "unsinkable general" Krylov. He did not fall under repression, he died in Leningrad in 1942

      Mostly members of the party fell under the repressions. Those who returned did not aspire to the party, but were loyal to the authorities. This did not apply to the priests, who openly opposed the Soviet regime in their sermons.
      1. -1
        30 January 2023 14: 22
        Quote: Konnick
        Among those who returned was the "unsinkable general" Krylov. He did not fall under repression, he died in Leningrad in 1942

        Mostly members of the party fell under the repressions. Those who returned did not aspire to the party, but were loyal to the authorities. This did not apply to the priests, who openly opposed the Soviet regime in their sermons.

        After the ROC stopped its anti-Soviet activities before the war, repressions against priests ceased.
        Beria released several thousand priests from the camps, and Stalin returned the patriarchate to the Russian Orthodox Church, which was taken by Peter the Great.
        The persecution of the church was resumed by Khrushchev, who said, you will see the last priest in front of me.
        Although at that time the church was quite loyal.
  35. +9
    30 January 2023 09: 44
    Russia can't stand Moscow because HALF of its inhabitants are shit! Those who consider themselves "intelligentsia" or "elite", it was in Moscow that they were considered, in Russia they wanted them!
    1. 0
      30 January 2023 14: 16
      Quote: Shish
      Russia can't stand Moscow because HALF of its inhabitants are shit! Those who consider themselves "intelligentsia" or "elite", it was in Moscow that they were considered, in Russia they wanted them!

      That's right, all the rot is coming from Moscow and St. Petersburg. But!
      I would not call everyone shit, I have many Muscovite friends, wonderful, decent people. And in St. Petersburg there are friends.
  36. +15
    30 January 2023 09: 55
    And thousands of IT specialists left the country. How are they? Also trash? Before that, they left in droves, but now they left at once. Maybe it was necessary not to build temples of walking accessibility and hand out orders to singers by mouth, but enterprises so that people would work HERE. And provide them with apartments. So that they start families HERE and become attached to the country. But why. Better yet, we will bring another million migrants and we will “master” another billion at religious processions and laying tiles.
    1. +3
      30 January 2023 10: 20
      And about the specialists who left the country, who are needed by the country, in fact, not only the vast majority, but simply millions, compared with just hundreds of odious personalities hanging out "in plain sight", in the "mass media", they do not specifically mention in order to put them all "on the same board" - like the garbage left, it's not a pity, there is no damage to the country, on the contrary, like "good". This is just a way to disguise from the people one more unpleasant consequences of the NWO - a massive exodus from the country of millions of in-demand specialists.
      1. 0
        30 January 2023 13: 17
        mass exodus of millions of sought-after specialists from the country.
        Demanded classroom it was never difficult for a specialist to leave. Rushed those who fall into this category only in a dream.
      2. kaa
        +1
        1 February 2023 10: 38
        Just millions? The clogged border crossing at Lars looked impressive, of course, but in the same place there was not even a line of five thousand if you counted on the heads.
  37. 0
    30 January 2023 10: 02
    If only the author explained in his opus why people have been fleeing from Russia from century to century. And how surprising it is to do with totalitarian rule. Everything is on the defensive, again the country is being let down by the people. And yes, these people are a people, many-sided and diverse.
  38. +8
    30 January 2023 10: 33
    more important than those who left, but those who remained. Lazarev, Baskov, Kirkorov, Uspenskaya, Kudryavtseva are the pinnacles of falsehood. They just calculated that they would bring more benefit to the West by pretending to be patriots of Russia and, without leaving Russia, they would be able to promote dummies to Russia like a sample of Western culture, wrapped in a shiny wrapper of Baskov's jacket, Kirkorov's impudence and Uspenskaya and Kudryavtseva's silicone. And in the jury of all sorts of shows there are propagandists of prison romance and chanters of the image of living for free, Novikov and Shafutinsky! And the remaining Bondarchuk and Mikhalkov, after all, will create something similar to those spitting about the Russian army in the NMD, both on the Red and Soviet Army, that they created in their films "9th Company", "Stalingrad", "Burnt by the Sun" and "Citadel" . Did the Teacher who created the film "The Edge", where the Soviet people and the Soviet government are shown simply savages and barbarians, in comparison with the German woman, leave? No, he didn't leave. Well, we are waiting for another tub of dirt on Russia, on Russian soldiers and on Russian people from those who remained here, because without them, there will be no one to conduct ideological sabotage in Russia.
    However, there are a lot of them left and they are much more influential than the departed Grebenshchikov or Makarevich.
    Well, for what merits Grebenshchikov was also awarded orders, I can’t understand. After all, this is the same humiliation of the order, as the title of People's Artist of the USSR was humiliated when Gorbachev awarded this title to the tavern singer Pugacheva.
    1. +10
      30 January 2023 11: 22
      Quote: north 2
      After all, this is the same humiliation of the order, as the title of People's Artist of the USSR was humiliated when Gorbachev awarded this title to the tavern singer Pugacheva.

      this is not a humiliation yet, as with BG. Humiliation is when Putin gave the order to 23-year-old YurKiss (already II degree) and Irina Nelson (Reflex)
      1. +2
        30 January 2023 14: 10
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        Quote: north 2
        After all, this is the same humiliation of the order, as the title of People's Artist of the USSR was humiliated when Gorbachev awarded this title to the tavern singer Pugacheva.

        this is not a humiliation yet, as with BG. Humiliation is when Putin gave the order to 23-year-old YurKiss (already II degree) and Irina Nelson (Reflex)

        Yes ... "deserved." You also forgot about the son of the former Minister of Defense Sergei Ivanov, the chairman of the board of some bank, who was also awarded the Order of Merit for the Fatherland at the age of 25.
        When he managed to deserve it, 3 years after the institute.
        In general, the distribution of awards in the Russian Federation raises big questions.
  39. 0
    30 January 2023 10: 49
    Tekilajaz and Nogu got sick - I'm not familiar with their work, but Noyz and Monetochka are a loss. Very cool and talented guys. I don't even know who to compare to them. Well, maybe Delphine. All the rest in our musical firmament only cause yawns. Their position on Ukraine is not close to me, but you can’t immediately give a pancake for the opinion of a foreign agent. We are all different and we have different opinions, it's great that all people are not the same.
  40. +8
    30 January 2023 10: 59
    But why does the author not list and does not notice those of the officials of various ranks who left Russia and are now pouring mud on it? They were certainly lured and treated kindly and had powers over the people, these different Chubais, Illarionovs, all sorts of fugitive bankers, along with the money of the central bank
  41. 0
    30 January 2023 11: 17
    Follow the example of Western countries to your dissidents ..... Deprive the income in the Russian Federation, freeze assets, take away copyrights. And let them go. Here, for example, in Krasnodar - Orbakaite is touring, and Pugacheva and Galkin are giving interviews. What happened to the property of the star family?
  42. +4
    30 January 2023 11: 55
    From the departure of the above-mentioned persons, and other "stars" of show business and self-proclaimed "rulers of thoughts" there will definitely not be any harm to the country, maybe even benefit. But besides them, many of those who really wanted to, who could work and worked, left! Soviet Russia in the 20s and 30s remained practically without engineers - industrialization was carried out under the guidance of Western, primarily American and German engineers, now the country has lost a fair share of IT specialists in a matter of months. But this loss, how badly, the economy, and even more - its prospects for the foreseeable future knocked down not weak.
  43. +3
    30 January 2023 12: 16
    The author forgot to add many other artists to this "steamboat", namely Yermolnik with Khazanov, Litvinova, Netrebko, etc. Their name is legion
  44. +3
    30 January 2023 12: 37
    What are you surprised? Some citizens have already betrayed their homeland to the USSR once, and the one who betrayed once will betray again
  45. -2
    30 January 2023 12: 55
    Quote: Civil
    we don't need naughty Russians.

    That's ten out of ten!!! You are on the right path, comrades!
  46. +7
    30 January 2023 13: 27
    How everyone is worried about the artists.

    Not because of the oligarchs and VIPs, whose yachts are still floating or standing over the hill (one Abramovich has several of them). Not because of the Vips who left, who probably took away billions and billions. Not about experienced IT mathematicians, who are already all, will live there ... Not about the clans once again dividing property ...... Not about the Chminoanists who failed with impunity....

    About the artists. and others. That they abandoned what they had acquired under capitalism, abandoned their bread positions, dachas, bonuses, connections, participation in all sorts of honorable societies, projects, feeders and went nowhere ....
    Maybe the remnants of conscience does not allow you to rejoice at the "liquidation" of friends, relatives, acquaintances over the hill?

    And those who really stuck, all sorts of effective managers who failed both import substitution, and joint venture 2, and "iPhone killers", and space, etc. etc. - you can’t drive them out of Russia even with a slipper.
    But their children either have passports in NATO or in the Emirates ...
  47. +4
    30 January 2023 13: 27
    Probably it is necessary to distinguish between those who left after the revolution. Some, without any pressure, were afraid of the revolution, afraid that they would not find the opportunity to do what they loved, like Sikorsky and those who were forcibly deported.
    The same "philosophical ship".
    There were not so many of them, a few hundred, but the first tens of thousands.
    Who was on this ship? Mostly the humanities.
    I have nothing against them, but I came across a figure that during the Yeltsin era, almost 70 thousand scientists, engineers, designers, of the highest level, were thrown out of Russia, squeezed out.
    It was the strongest blow to our science and economy.
    But the liberals are not very worried about this, as they are worried about the departed singers and various buffoons, calling them the salt of the nation, the conscience of the nation, and so on.
    Although it is a stinking foam and nothing more.
    The country lost nothing from their flight.
  48. +1
    30 January 2023 13: 38
    Quote: Single-n
    For whose children are these? Who brought up? On whose examples were they brought up?

    A very interesting question. So it is necessary to take a pedigree before. Makarevich, Mikhalkov, and others ... Who even spat on the Union. And those who are now at the top, their songs, pictures, watched, listened to, howled. admired ...... Iiii boomerang still works.
  49. -1
    30 January 2023 13: 41
    Quote: Mikhail Krivopalov
    What are you surprised? Some citizens have already betrayed their homeland to the USSR once, and the one who betrayed once will betray again

    Well, twice and thrice, no one forbade taking the oath. And the Union and the type of Russia.
  50. 0
    30 January 2023 13: 46
    Russia, by the way, was not attacked in 1914...


    How to say... On August 1, 1914, it was Germany that declared war on Russia.
    1. 0
      30 January 2023 14: 01
      Quote: Outsider V.
      Russia, by the way, was not attacked in 1914...


      How to say... On August 1, 1914, it was Germany that declared war on Russia.

      It's right. There was first a provocation from Germany, where there was a statement in the media that a general mobilization had begun in Germany.
      Which at the time was considered a declaration of war.
      In response, Russia also began a general mobilization, for which RI needed more time.
      Then there was an official statement from the German government that the media report was erroneous and that Germany was not mobilizing.
      And after the ultimatum of Russia with the requirement to stop mobilization.
      Russia did not stop mobilization and a declaration of war followed.
      This is how events unfolded.
      If I missed something, correct it.
      1. +1
        30 January 2023 17: 34
        We are somewhat offtopic here, but still I will answer: as I understand it, Germany would declare war, and if Russia agreed to stop mobilization. It is alleged that the German ambassador Pourtales had two versions of the note prepared at once for the positive / negative answer of Sazonov, in each of the options the war was declared. Pourtales, out of excitement, handed both to Sazonov.
        1. 0
          30 January 2023 18: 48
          Quote: Outsider V.
          We are somewhat offtopic here, but still I will answer: as I understand it, Germany would declare war, and if Russia agreed to stop mobilization. It is alleged that the German ambassador Pourtales had two versions of the note prepared at once for the positive / negative answer of Sazonov, in each of the options the war was declared. Pourtales, out of excitement, handed both to Sazonov.

          Agree. War was inevitable. Everyone was ready for it.
          All that was needed was a suggestion.
  51. -4
    30 January 2023 13: 48
    Quote: frog
    But nothing happened. And this, EMNIP, 2017.....


    This is also why the SVO was set up. Because in any other situation it would have been impossible to get rid of such “bugs”. Considering what kind of patrons they have in the West.
  52. +2
    30 January 2023 13: 52
    Quote: Monster_Fat
    This is just a way to disguise from the people another unpleasant consequence of the SVO - the mass exodus from the country of millions of in-demand specialists.


    If we had millions of in-demand specialists, then our country would look different and would not develop at a snail’s pace.
    Office hamsters are also a driver of growth. laughing
    1. +1
      30 January 2023 19: 51
      “Office hamsters”... I’ll say this, in my company (logistics) three people went abroad: one IT specialist (though he wasn’t exactly ours; he worked as a freelancer for several companies), and two good managers - one for sales, the other on working with clients with an emphasis on legal support. Among my close friends, two young people left; both worked for Melkomyagkiye (both went to Georgia). What am I talking about? What united them all? What they had in common was their knowledge of English at the “Upper-Intermediate or B2” level. Moreover, some knew not only English, but for example also French and German (maybe at a slightly weaker level, but they felt quite confident in negotiations over the phone and with documentation)... So - “office hamsters”? Worthless and not needed by us? Well, well... I think the Tajiks and Uzbeks will “successfully replace” them... wink Yes
      1. 0
        30 January 2023 21: 37
        What they had in common was their knowledge of English at the “Upper-Intermediate or B2” level.
        Is this something unique?
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    1. +3
      30 January 2023 14: 22
      We lost our country and our future three decades ago... and that was nothing...
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    1. +5
      30 January 2023 14: 48
      But to nominate such a leader for more than 20 years, and even at the suggestion and on the recommendation of such a person as Yeltsin... - no other people in the World could have coped with this.
    2. -1
      31 January 2023 12: 28
      literally hundreds of thousands, most returned because... I couldn’t live in a foreign land
  55. +1
    30 January 2023 15: 46
    "I would like to believe that everything is complete." I don't agree. There's still so much left. And it will take a long time to climb out.
  56. +4
    30 January 2023 15: 55
    The authorities fell into a trap because of their own stupidity... For years they fed artists, singers and other audiences. Annual awards - the main “heroes” of Russia over the past 30 years are singers and actors
  57. 0
    30 January 2023 17: 07
    Quote: Vladimir80
    Why discuss the hypocrites, buffoons and buffoons, who fled abroad from fear. Better think about how many hidden traitors and agents dress up as patriots and statesmen, that's where the trouble is.

    Yes, the entire vertical of power: Pu-EDro-Du-.....
  58. +2
    30 January 2023 17: 14
    Quote from Kuziming
    The current representatives of mass culture are just servants of the financially wealthy pseudo-elite.

    Well said and to the point.+++++ good
  59. +1
    30 January 2023 17: 34
    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
    Who forced the primitive V. Tokarev, Grebenshchikov, the vulgar Galkin and others to applaud


    The most base rubbish always leads the crowd into admiration, for the vast majority of people are infected with stupidity.
    Erasmus of Rotterdam, "In Praise of Folly"
  60. +1
    30 January 2023 17: 37
    Quote: Gardamir
    Now the deputies have passed the law. do not show your income. They need this.

    And then these “thinkers” will really want someone to protect them from an external enemy? Don’t we know that the whole “office” is stealing? And now, apparently, times are coming when you can steal even more. Dark times have come. Chains of fly-by-night companies, new business models across the outskirts, a roof in the form of nearby structures. All their thoughts now are not about the country, not about really necessary laws. The time has come for the "quiet pool". I hope the time will come - "...... according to their affairs....."
  61. +2
    30 January 2023 17: 49
    Quote: kor1vet1974
    Then the best minds of our Motherland really left Russia.
    Especially Ilyin, the future ROVS ideologist, well, etc. The president is now reading him, erecting monuments to him, laying flowers ..

    God sees everything... No matter how many candles you light, in a church built with budget money, you will have to give a full “report” before entering heaven; nothing can be hidden.
  62. +1
    30 January 2023 17: 56
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    Petrovich, who, without any computers, marks the shell of the very rocket that he “analogues”
  63. +2
    30 January 2023 18: 04
    Quote: ivan2022
    If a country gave birth to such an “intelligentsia,” what prospects in History might it have? There is no king and there never will be. The main election slogan: “And for whom else?.... The final, judging by all the parameters.

    There is no “tsar”, but who hands out awards to the “intelligentsia” like cookies?
  64. 0
    30 January 2023 18: 07
    Quote: vet
    The problem is not with dubious “stars” like Urgant and Galkin, and especially with elderly and no longer needed “prima donnas” like Pugacheva. The problem is the loss of hundreds of thousands of young healthy men - and this despite the fact that the demographic situation in Russia is not the best. To suffer such demographic losses without declaring war was something one had to be able to do. But Putin managed it.

    But we don’t know the real ones yet. I think we will still be very surprised.
  65. 0
    30 January 2023 19: 22
    Quote: Vasily50
    For the sake of this - * run out *, and they left confident in their own genius-indispensability.
    Then the philosophers went to the lackeys, just to spoil RUSSIA and all CITIZENS OF RUSSIA, and * sticky * from the environment were attached, including in very * uncomfortable * places with the owners.

    And indeed, it’s just a matter of what’s left, not fate, a fairy tale. Zadornov, during his lifetime, Yumareski read that Russians are lazy, everything is free, at the behest of the pike. and these gnomes are digging everything... Why didn’t he mention the author of the licked work, who served many years in the camps of Academician Alexei Losev? Can someone remind me where and when he said something against the Soviet regime? Dmitry Likhachev is generally an “ardent anti-Soviet”. And the philosopher Pavel Florensky, I agree, did not really approve of the new order, he was allowed to go abroad, remained in his homeland and, of course, waited until he was shot, and there were thousands of them.
    And the younger talents: Ilyushin, Krolev, etc., they were valued, they did not sit, it was not for nothing that the latter died as a result of injuries received in the dungeons of his homeland, and they were patriots. I wonder, has anyone read the lists of triples that sentenced your relatives?
    God forbid those times.
  66. +2
    30 January 2023 19: 32
    Quote: North Caucasus
    Russia is the legal successor of the USSR and can probably return to its previous status with rights to the territory. And on February 24, we did not invade someone else’s territory, but we were establishing order in our own country, on our own territory! And these territories were both part of the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR.

    Russia voluntarily ratified the Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation with Ukraine, according to international law. this means recognizing boundaries, I emphasize voluntarily. If Japan has questions for the Russian Federation, it does not fight with us, but it does not sign a friendship treaty either.
    1. 0
      30 January 2023 23: 23
      At the Poddam conference, the USSR ratified an agreement under which the victorious countries could send troops into the territories where Nazism was being revived. And the Russian Federation is the legal successor of the USSR.
  67. 0
    30 January 2023 19: 38
    “Russia has lost a little since the departure of such comrades.” Dear author, was there a big loss for Greece from the death of Socrates, for example? Culture and its “drivers” are also important for the history of any country, and not just scientists working in applied fields of knowledge.
  68. 0
    30 January 2023 19: 47
    Quote: UAZ 452
    Komsomol members walked in formation and there were no splits.

    And then the Komsomol was gone. And the countries where this Komsomol was.

    But the nickname is not Toyota, but UAZ 452...
  69. 0
    30 January 2023 19: 50
    Quote: Ulan.1812
    It's not Sharikov's fault that he turned out like that. But Shvonder is deliberately like that.

    Bulgakov had his own attitude towards Jews, after all, he lived in Little Russia, he knew the issue well, and the Shvonder you mentioned has such a surname for a reason. And if you read the novel carefully, you will see that many of the affected characters have Jewish surnames, and the same Berlioz. so that for Bulgakov everything is not so simple.
  70. +2
    30 January 2023 19: 57
    Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
    Except Chaliapin, who traveled back and forth.
    All the other "geniuses and philosophers of the Mtsensk district", unknown to anyone in the world, are small-town "philosophers".

    This is serious, can you then answer why Pavel Florensky’s library is now kept in the Library of the US Congress, like, they collected all the crap there? You completely deny the movement “Smenavekhovstvo” and with which you, for example, do not agree, there are of course odious ones, but in general, what exactly gave you the idea that they were all petty? Ilyin, for example. he repented and remained alive, although he was definitely very aggressive, still an ideologist of the white movement.
  71. +2
    30 January 2023 20: 56
    A lot of false elite, who were kissed in one place by our media and those in power, left. The Galkins, Pugachevs, Slepakovs did nothing for world culture, and their work within the country is low-grade slag for people who, coming home from work, turned on the TV so that “something would bark” in the background.
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  74. +1
    31 January 2023 01: 55
    Fyodor Chaliapin, Nikolai Berdyaev, Semyon Frank, Nikolai Lossky. I’m probably going to voice a seditious and unpopular thought now, but Russia has lost a little bit since the departure of such comrades. The country lost much more when the mechanical scientist Vladimir Zvorykin was forced to go abroad on one of the notorious ships.


    The Soviet disdain for humanities, which was successfully destroyed, clearly shows here. Meanwhile, it is necessary to evaluate the other way around. During the period of industrialization, technicians were hired or ordered projects from foreign firms and specialists. Yes, there was an acute shortage of personnel, but at least their services could be purchased.

    But a whole series of outstanding Russian thinkers of the 19th and early 20th centuries is a unique phenomenon and influenced the whole world. Such periods of flourishing of literature and philosophy throughout world history can be counted on one hand, and only a few countries throughout history have been able to produce such outstanding world-class humanitarian thought. And then there was humanitarian stagnation and, as a result, the current feeling of secondary importance and a dead end without a clear image of the future in which one would really believe. It turns out that if you shut up thinkers and send them to hell, and then organize a humanitarian pogrom, then this very image miraculously does not fall from the sky.
  75. -2
    31 January 2023 08: 50
    Quote: Monster_Fat
    Office hamsters"... I’ll say this, in my company (logistics) three people went abroad: one IT specialist (although he wasn’t exactly one of us, he worked as a freelancer for several companies), and two good managers - one for sales, the other for working with clients with an emphasis on legal support.


    Well? Can the country survive without them?
    Some gentlemen served other gentlemen. At the expense of everyone else.
    The economy is not a production economy, but a consumer economy, working in the interests of the few at the expense of the exploitation of the many. With such a model of development, we will not go far in any case, and even the “Brezhnev stagnation” in terms of economic growth rates will remain an unattainable model.

    First of all, we do not need managers and lawyers, but those who produce a real product, real value, and not only in the raw materials industries. There are not enough of the latter, but we already have an abundance of those who want to work in a cozy office, shuffling papers, commercial universities (like toadstools after rain) produce such “specialists” en masse.
  76. +1
    31 January 2023 08: 54
    Quote from: geraet4501
    But a whole series of outstanding Russian thinkers of the 19th and early 20th centuries is a unique phenomenon and influenced the whole world. Such periods of flourishing of literature and philosophy throughout world history can be counted on one hand, and only a few countries throughout history have been able to produce such outstanding world-class humanitarian thought. And then there was humanitarian stagnation and, as a result, the current feeling of secondary importance and a dead end without a clear image of the future in which one would really believe. It turns out that if you shut up thinkers and send them to hell, and then organize a humanitarian pogrom, then this very image miraculously does not fall from the sky.


    So what positive meanings, what vision of the future that I would like to dream about, did all these Shulgins and Ilyins create in emigration?
    Sorry, but some of the “outstanding Russian thinkers” of baked goods pre-revolutionary Russia sometimes even reeked of spiritual fascism...
    1. 0
      1 February 2023 20: 30
      So what positive meanings, what vision of the future that I would like to dream about, did all these Shulgins and Ilyins create in emigration?

      Can you hear yourself? In the USSR, humanitarian knowledge was destroyed and replaced by rigid ideology. For many philosophers this is a real tragedy. What are the positive meanings here? To cover the tragedy with cheerful wallpaper in the spirit of “Life has become better, life has become more fun”? And at the same time being in exile?

      sometimes it even reeked of spiritual fascism...

      Why spiritual? Just fascism. At that time, there was generally a flourishing of totalitarian thought of all kinds, including fascist. The Nazis were almost everywhere. This does not cast any particular shadow on pre-revolutionary Russia, and if it does, it does so on the entire Western world.
  77. +1
    31 January 2023 08: 57
    Quote from Etwas
    Russia voluntarily ratified the Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation with Ukraine


    On December 10, 2018, President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko signed the law “On the termination of the Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Partnership between Ukraine and the Russian Federation.” On April 1, 2019, the agreement officially terminated.
  78. 0
    31 January 2023 11: 38
    Quote: North Caucasus
    What about freedom of speech abroad? There Medusa was expelled from the country for three joints without talking! Here is efficiency! And after all, no one was buzzing about the bloody Western regime!

    not a jellyfish but a rain channel. or jellyfish too?
    not a single liberal face of the scattering, half of which hangs around in the Baltic states, blathered. yes everything is there. Sindeeva, who, instead of defending freedom of speech, as soon as she was given instructions not even by her owners, but by the mongrels of her owners, she immediately fired her journalist, and then sobbed on camera. the entire “world free” journalistic brethren, who “did not notice the blatant violation of honest and independent freedom)))) that’s what we lost)))
  79. -1
    31 January 2023 16: 02
    Quote: frog
    To begin with, it would be nice to remember who hung awards and titles on the same Galkin. And for what.
    And not only for this to remember ....
    And at the same time remember the same Chubais, the “carrier of information”), who frolicked a little in Skolkovo.


    Now you will be “downvoted” by members of the Shapiro sect (Soloviev and co).
    Nobody needs the truth.
    It is bitter, like snake venom.

    The author of the article calls the ghouls who left the elite and compares them with those who left after 1917.
    How can you compare small-town mediocrities, tongue-tied stringers, citizens of Israel with the salt of the Russian Land?

    Then, after a bloody rebellion, Russia lost the outstanding sons of the Fatherland!
    And now Russia is clearing itself of dirty human foam.
    Those who left after the terrible February 2022 did not love Russia, did not love the Russian people.

    These nonhumans were silent when children died from Bandera’s raids in Novorossiya.

    And in February they burst.
    Let Galkind, Urgant, Pugacheva (or whatever her name is, Jews from BI-2, bankers Aven and Fridman, Chubais) remain in their Israel (after all, they are citizens of this country).

    Among those who left there are no truly gifted, intelligent people, only without
    dari (like Meladze), swindlers (like Chubais).
    Let Israeli kibbutzim and Georgian villages “enrich” their “creativity and knowledge”.

    The road to Russia should be closed for them.
    And if they dare to return, the ground must burn under their feet.
  80. +1
    31 January 2023 17: 34
    As it was noted in some article, the entire Soviet and post-Soviet opposition came into this business only driven by personal gain with the hope that the louder you yell, the faster you will get rich and go live over the hill. In principle, there are no other motives if you scratch it a little.
  81. 0
    1 February 2023 09: 51
    The guys who fought all these years, from Afghanistan to the Northern Military District, know how difficult it is to receive a medal or order. And these people were simply showered for some unknown reason. After all, someone imagined and squeezed through these scoundrels. So let them answer for this. If the security forces have a position where the boss is responsible for the actions of his subordinate, then why doesn’t this apply to this “bohemia”. V.I. Lenin gave it an unambiguous and precise definition.
  82. 0
    1 February 2023 14: 24
    Our population is not yet so strong that these “specialists” will not be replaced by new faces in a couple of years. Everything comes and goes, but there will always be many people willing to shake the bells, who will organize among themselves who is better and who is worse.
  83. 0
    2 February 2023 09: 33
    Quote from: geraet4501
    Can you hear yourself? In the USSR, humanitarian knowledge was destroyed and replaced by rigid ideology. For many philosophers this is a real tragedy. What are the positive meanings here?


    For philosophers? Well, yes, there is little positive for them.
    Now, presumably, the conditions for intellectual masturbation have become better - but what's the use?
    For society as a whole, and not for budget-funded employees in the departments of numerous universities?

    "Ideas become power when they master the masses." That is, when there is an ideology. Because it is ideology that is capable of leading the people, but the philosophies of humanities philosophers are not, however.
    These gentlemen are not capable of captivating people, mired in self-reflection.

    By the way, how many positive meanings have Western philosophers created over the past half century? Do “they” have a positive and bright image of the Future? Or did the “commies” interfere with them too?

    Quote from: geraet4501
    Why spiritual? Just fascism. At that time, there was generally a flourishing of totalitarian thought of all kinds, including fascist. The Nazis were almost everywhere. This does not cast any particular shadow on pre-revolutionary Russia, and if it does, it does so on the entire Western world.


    Because it was “spiritual” because it manifested itself in the spiritual sphere. However, these gentlemen did not create concentration camps themselves.

    Throwing it at the entire Western world? Of course he does. Because fascism, Nazism, if you like, is not an aberration, a deviation, but the very essence of this Western civilization (usually hidden under the mask of “values”).
    Currently, this mask is falling again and we see the bestial grin of the West, deeply wounded by the disobedience of this incomprehensible Russia.
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      4 February 2023 22: 02
      There are quite a few Nazis in Russia too. Not from the West, but our own.... In every village and city. They grow up from bandits, and the word “authority” in the Russian people means a bandit... Not a scientist...
  84. 0
    6 February 2023 21: 39
    I agree with the author on almost everything. Besides the main thing, this is not the elite. This is a rotten party. They held the entire showbiz with all their tentacles. And for the last ten years, there was only business left, without shows, or rather the Freak Show and the Old Man Parade. But the truly talented ones collected millions of views on YouTube, but received zero recognition from the state.

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