The White House does not believe that the supply of tanks to Kyiv threaten Russia

The White House responded to Moscow's warnings not to cross the "red line" in military support for Ukraine. According to US National Security Council spokesman John Kirby, the White House does not disdain Moscow's calls, but what America does does not threaten Russia.

Kirby noted that the purpose of the transfer to Kyiv tanks is the protection of the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine. Thus, Kirby believes that the US is not crossing any red lines. At one time, American President Joe Biden also spoke when Washington was preparing to transfer Patriot anti-aircraft missile systems to Kyiv. Then Biden said that these were defensive weapons that were not a threat to Moscow.

Now the White House has decided to send three dozen American Abrams tanks to Kyiv. According to a representative of the National Security Council, these tanks will help the Ukrainian troops to effectively fight the Russian military in the open.

At the same time, Kirby added that the Abrams, of course, threaten Russian soldiers in Ukraine, but not Russia itself.

They threaten Russian soldiers in Ukraine, not Russia, actually.

- said the American official.

Recall that the United States continues to consider Crimea, Donbass, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions as territories of Ukraine, ignoring the will of millions of people.

Comments

[rocket757]

The White House does not believe that the supply of tanks to Kyiv threaten Russia

We found someone to argue with, someone to warn ...
The only thing that should have been done a long time ago was to move from words to deeds ...
Everything else is useless.

[Uncle lee]

The US does not cross any "red lines"

There are no longer any red lines - the felt-tip pen has worn out!

[rocket757]

The felt-tip pen was worn out or ink, there were "magic" ones in it, disappearing on their own ... this "show" must end sometime! Especially when the guns are talking, any show looks pathetic and out of time.

[Akuzenka]

The felt-tip pen was worn out or the ink was "magic" in it ... this "show" must end sometime! Especially when the guns are talking, any show looks pathetic and out of time.

The show hasn't started yet. Now Poland will join, the Germans have joined, then there will be a provocation and we will "bang". That's when the show starts. Last for this civilization.

[rocket757]

Waiting for a big bad boom... not inspiring. Moreover, the transition from the show to Armageddon is not much more inspiring.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: rocket757

Waiting for a big bad boom... not inspiring. Moreover, the transition from the show to Armageddon is not much more inspiring.

Not inspiring, yes. However, judging by how events are developing, without a big "bad-boom" the situation will most likely not be able to settle down. the West is constantly raising the stakes and deliberately aggravating the situation by limiting Russia's room for maneuver. The option of leaving Ukraine and returning to the borders of 1991 is not an option for us at all, and admitting defeat in Ukraine is not an option for the West. A "Geopolitical Impasse" has formed, which does not provide for consensus and can only be resolved in one way - through the military-political defeat of one of the parties.

[Skeptic3]

And why is a return to the borders of 1991 not an option for us?
What will happen in this case, except for the hurt pride?

[Stanislav_Shishkin]

Quote: Skeptik3

And why is a return to the borders of 1991 not an option for us?

For you, this is an impossible dream.

Quote: Skeptik3

What will happen in this case, except for the hurt pride?

Genocide of the population in the new regions of the Russian Federation.

[Skeptic3]

There has never been a genocide and there never will be. It's TV fiction.

[Stanislav_Shishkin]

Quote: Skeptik3

There has never been a genocide and there never will be.

They started, but they prevented him from finishing. You called him "ATO" for 8 years. Now it won't, for sure.

[Vasily Krylov]

In this case, the same thing will happen that happened in Russia before 1917, this is Russophobic Poland and Finland. These are 13 republics of the parasites of the USSR. We need it.

[rocket757]

It is difficult to imagine how a conflict of this level can be resolved.
I listened to a lot, a lot of arguments of experts, political scientists and others ... there is an opinion that for the West such a factor as the excess of costs / losses / costs, namely their own, over possible / expected profits, acquisitions and from this muddied may matter. But even here there are nuances, the profits of their military-industrial complex are growing, with any development of the conflict !!!
In general, there should be several negative factors for them, Schaub, although they thought about it, but do they need it ???
In general, the big guys play dangerous games and stop until they intend to...
From our side, one thing is certain, we must win this battle... the only way.

[Skeptic3]

For everyone, without exception, war is a huge economic loss.
The profit of the military-industrial complex is a loss for the whole society. This is money that will burn at the front or rust in garages in peacetime. They will not go to education, medicine, pensions, etc.

"Must win" is not the same as "can win".

[rocket757]

Have you found such that war is good for the people, for the country as a whole? WHERE???
Win / win, the topic is voluminous, in fact ...
It can be discussed for a long time and not find one, acceptable, for all / each, result.
At the moment, in this particular case, the elimination or leveling of aggressive sentiments in a neighboring state is already an understandable reason for intervening, NWO ...
They were offered differently, many, many times ... it didn’t work!
It's their choice... or not, it doesn't matter anymore.

[Skeptic3]

Those. "moods", as you deigned to put it - is this a sufficient reason for invading another country?
With such grounds, one can invade all countries at once. Everywhere there are people whose mood you may not like.

[rocket757]

The mood of someone there is one thing.
State policy, expressed publicly, to faces and who are statesmen, it seems like, this is a completely different calico ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Not inspiring, yes. However, judging by how events are developing, without a big "bad-boom" the situation will most likely not be able to settle down. the West is constantly raising the stakes and deliberately aggravating the situation by limiting Russia's room for maneuver.

The last hope - for the second "Caribbean crisis". This is the only thing that can stop all this pandemonium now.
Something (in Europe, but not in Ukraine!) America will bargain for itself, something ours will take. As then".

And if America says: "Well, to hell with them, with Poland and the Tribaltic! Let the Russians gasp," then "the star will fly over the bumps"!
Not in the notorious "fifth article" is the case. And that if America does not get involved, then this will be the lightning end of NATO. And without NATO, without American troops and weapons in the occupied territories, the price of America as a hegemon and "world gendarme" is like a stale bun on a market day.

Not for Poland, Britain, or anyone else from NATO, America will get involved. And not even for myself.
For their exaggerated "world domination".

[Kurganets-45]

If the comrades from Iran, China and North Korea had helped us with equipment and personnel, perhaps the geopolitical conflict would have been resolved.

[Machito]

Quote: rocket757

The White House does not believe that the supply of tanks to Kyiv threaten Russia

We found someone to argue with, someone to warn ...
The only thing that should have been done a long time ago was to move from words to deeds ...
Everything else is useless.

When will the Kremlin realize that the supply of Zircons and Calibers with nuclear warheads to Cuba does not threaten the United States? When will we start supplying weapons to rebels and terrorists of all stripes in Europe?

[rocket757]

This is not our method!
However, what our upper methods are is not clear to many, and we, the citizens of this country, have been in a state of "surprise" for a long time and thoroughly ...
However, from "surprise" to something else, not so far!!!

[Stanislav_Shishkin]

Quote: rocket757

what our upper method is, it is not clear to many

Want to find out military secrets?

Quote: rocket757

...to something else, not so far away!!!

It seems like a threat ... The main thing is that your surprise does not reach the handle.

[voice of reason]

I also think that we need to bend our line. I am deeply convinced that the tsunami wave in the Atlantic Ocean, as a result of the Poseidon explosion, does not threaten the national security of the United States, Britain, Spain, Canada, Germany, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Holland, France. On the other hand, it naturally helps to reduce military tension in the region and reduce the military and economic potential of the countries opposing Russia. Which, in turn, contributes to international detente and the establishment of peace and good neighborly relations between countries.

[Skeptic3]

Are you proposing a nuclear attack on NATO? Wonderful!
Can you predict a retaliatory strike?

[Machito]

Quote: Skeptik3

Are you proposing a nuclear attack on NATO? Wonderful!
Can you predict a retaliatory strike?

For starters, it would be nice to blow up all the underwater gas pipelines supplying gas to Europe and turn the arrows on the ISIS. Like they blew it up.

[Skeptic3]

You can try. But what are the risks? And what will it give besides increasing the supply of weapons to Ukraine?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: voice of reason

I am deeply convinced that the tsunami wave in the Atlantic Ocean, as a result of the Poseidon explosion, does not threaten the national security of the United States, Britain, Spain, Canada, Germany, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Holland, France. On the other hand, it naturally helps to reduce military tension in the region and reduce the military and economic potential of the countries opposing Russia.

Someone on TV offered to gasp at some "no one's" atoll one and a half square kilometers in the Pacific Ocean. And do not care about all the moratoriums on nuclear weapons tests - we also know how, not only America.
And show it all on TV.

In 1949, America was well cooled. Under Khrushchev, the Tsar Bomba had a good therapeutic effect. And now sober up clouded brains.

[Torins Narkuas]

When will the Kremlin realize that the supply of Zircons and Calibers with nuclear warheads to Cuba does not threaten the United States? When will we start supplying weapons to rebels and terrorists of all stripes in Europe?

Cuba is no longer what it used to be. There is no former communist fervor there.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote from Torins Narkuas

Cuba is no longer what it used to be. There is no former communist fervor there.

What kind of excitement is this? When was Fidel ready to sacrifice Cuba?
We do not need such sacrifices. And with Cuba to agree - "two fingers on the asphalt" two container ships. One with tractors, the other with cars from AVTOVAZ...
It is necessary not to send diplomats to Europe, but to the countries of Latin America ... and negotiate and convince, convince and negotiate, negotiate and convince, convince and negotiate ...
And we will all be happy!

[Geosun]

Does Cuba want to have Caliber and Zircons on its territory?

Quote: Bearded

When will we start supplying weapons to rebels and terrorists of all stripes in Europe?

And do we really need it? Here the United States armed Bin Laden, how much did they benefit from this?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Bearded

When will the Kremlin realize that the supply of Zircons and Calibers with nuclear warheads to Cuba does not threaten the United States? When will we start supplying weapons to rebels and terrorists of all stripes in Europe?

As soon as Cuba asks for them. Did she ask?

[Zoldat_A]

!

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Bearded

When will the Kremlin realize that the supply of Zircons and Calibers with nuclear warheads to Cuba does not threaten the United States? When will we start supplying weapons to rebels and terrorists of all stripes in Europe?

As soon as Cuba asks for them. Did she ask?

I think, to flood all our stores again with Cuban white, but not as sweet as ours, gray, beetroot, sugar and Havana Club rum - and then why shouldn't Cuba ask for rockets?

[Machito]

Quote: Zoldat_A

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Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Bearded

When will the Kremlin realize that the supply of Zircons and Calibers with nuclear warheads to Cuba does not threaten the United States? When will we start supplying weapons to rebels and terrorists of all stripes in Europe?

As soon as Cuba asks for them. Did she ask?

I think, to flood all our stores again with Cuban white, but not as sweet as ours, gray, beetroot, sugar and Havana Club rum - and then why shouldn't Cuba ask for rockets?

And again fill up our tobacco cigarettes "Ligueros" - Death under sail. I already forgot the last time I smoked natural tobacco. Tobacco contains one guano from American tobacco companies. They poison the people.

[Machito]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Bearded

When will the Kremlin realize that the supply of Zircons and Calibers with nuclear warheads to Cuba does not threaten the United States? When will we start supplying weapons to rebels and terrorists of all stripes in Europe?

As soon as Cuba asks for them. Did she ask?

Aaron, if Putin offers Cuba to place Russian missiles on Liberty Island and economic aid, then Cuba will beg for missiles. Cubans did not betray Russians. It was our leadership that sold them. Like all of us.

[Skeptic3]

Is the supply of weapons to terrorists a worthy response of a "great power" to the actions of other great powers?

[strannik1985]

The precedent has already been created; the explosion of gas pipelines cannot be called anything other than a terrorist attack. If some can, why not others?

[Skeptic3]

Idiotic logic.
If your neighbor raped a child, does this mean that you personally now have the right and should do it again?
Since when are other people's bad deeds considered as a role model and justification for their own unworthy behavior?

[Machito]

Quote: Skeptik3

Idiotic logic.
If your neighbor raped a child, does this mean that you personally now have the right and should do it again?
Since when are other people's bad deeds considered as a role model and justification for their own unworthy behavior?

You have idiotic logic. Are you that worried about child rape? Descend or go to the psychotherapist and the sexologist.

[strannik1985]

idiotic logic

No, if the neighbor cannot be punished in a normal, legal way, any method will do. No international court will recognize the guilt of the United States, no matter what evidence the Russian Federation presents, but there is more than enough relatively vulnerable American infrastructure in the world.
The Americans themselves are violating the established system of international security, which means that all the costs are also their fault.

[Skeptic3]

A game without rules is a powerful thing. But there is a nuance. Few people like scumbags. Because most people are normal. In an extreme situation, normal people usually unite and scumbags are punished. What we are seeing.

[strannik1985]

Few people like scumbags.

Not at all, the enemy simply does not recognize the Russian Federation as frostbitten enough for us to take such steps, and this is gradually increasing the degree of conflict. Only unacceptable damage will stop the Americans, Ukraine - acceptable losses, so that it does not happen on this territory, exactly the same situation we observed in the Middle East. As now, a number of countries are pumping up Ukraine with weapons from the Persian Gulf monarchy / the United States pumped up weapons / trained soldiers for the so-called Free Syrian Army.
Your insinuations about "thugs" have nothing to do with reality.

[Skeptic3]

Do not ascribe to me what you yourself claim. It was you who proposed to act literally "by any means." And this is the definition of the term "scumbag".

[strannik1985]

This is just a response to a terrorist act. Terrorists are not subject to the laws of war, quite an adequate response.

[Skeptic3]

Any gopnik who is caught and sits in the police department usually says the same thing: "He started it first." This is the standard behavior.

[strannik1985]

This is the standard behavior.

What do you mean by "caught"?

[Skeptic3]

By "caught" I mean a situation where a person conceived and carried out some kind of filth in the expectation of impunity, but this calculation did not materialize.

[strannik1985]

Under "caught"

And what's bothering you? Support for a coup in / in Ukraine, official support for "green" terrorists in Syria, undermining gas pipelines - this is disgusting, counting on impunity.

[Stanislav_Shishkin]

Quote: Skeptik3

Is the supply of weapons to terrorists a worthy response of a "great power" to the actions of other great powers?

What, in your opinion, should be a worthy response of a great power to arms supplies to terrorists by other "great powers"?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Bearded

When will the Kremlin realize that the supply of Zircons and Calibers with nuclear warheads to Cuba does not threaten the United States?

We, too, if we try, we can probably include, like America, a "level 80 geographer" and tell them that we believe them, all the 90s believed, contrary to the world map, that missile defense in Poland, the Czech Republic and Romania is not against us, but against Iran.

And in Cuba, this is not against America, Europe, and not even against Ukraine. This is against the threat to Russia from Mozambique. Mozambique will tolerate the role of "the main danger for Russia" a little, if you ask nicely - it's not every day that you get to spin in the highest spheres of geopolitics.

[Machito]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Quote: Bearded

When will the Kremlin realize that the supply of Zircons and Calibers with nuclear warheads to Cuba does not threaten the United States?

We, too, if we try, we can probably include, like America, a "level 80 geographer" and tell them that we believe them, all the 90s believed, contrary to the world map, that missile defense in Poland, the Czech Republic and Romania is not against us, but against Iran.

And in Cuba, this is not against America, Europe, and not even against Ukraine. This is against the threat to Russia from Mozambique. Mozambique will tolerate the role of "the main danger for Russia" a little, if you ask nicely - it's not every day that you get to spin in the highest spheres of geopolitics.

No, Cuba also needs to deploy missile defense systems against Iran and North Korea. The ayatollah will laugh when he hears this news. You can also fight against the aggressive penguins of Antarctica. Why can the presidents of Western countries speak nonsense from high tribunes, but ours cannot? Thanks to Peskov: at least somehow helps out with a snowstorm.

[Speedwagon]

And how do you propose to send calibers, even if it is difficult to export grain?

[Leonidych]

We need to start killing American soldiers in Syria and Iraq. It's not a threat to America. If they are outraged, then remind them about Ukraine.

[rocket757]

So, the ability to do "nasty things" to enemies, by proxy, is not the prerogative of someone alone.
Почему нет?

[Skeptic3]

What if US troops in Syria strike back with all the might of the US military?
Do you know about the battle near Hasham? Google it, it will be helpful.

[Stanislav_Shishkin]

Quote: Skeptik3

What if US troops in Syria strike back with all the might of the US military?

Then we will finish with the USA and continue the NWO.

[Skeptic3]

Hat-throwing? Manilovism? No, have not heard...

[ivan1979nkl]

it's called "turn on the fool": we see the situation like that... believe me, you'll be better off... it doesn't hurt at all, you'll even like it...

[rocket757]

Whatever you call it, they showed that they are the ENEMY ... not only showed that they carry out aggressive actions, by proxy, directly, by any means they consider necessary, possible, but at this stage of the confrontation.

[Akuzenka]

The only thing that should have been done a long time ago was to move from words to deeds ...
Everything else is useless.

It is high time for our diplomacy to take this into service. Deploy Iskanders in Cuba - "We do not threaten US sovereignty."

[rocket757]

Diplomats do not decide ... everything originates in the heads up there, in the "towers" of t.s.
Other people are doing it in one way or another.
At the moment, the task is to win in a specific place, in a specific battle, and then ... we'll see what we have to do next. Everything is in order, everything has its time.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: AKuzenka

Deploy Iskanders in Cuba - "We do not threaten US sovereignty."

Those same Iskanders with a range of 2 km called Caliber.

[Skeptic3]

Khrushchev has already tried. But you forgot how it ended.

[rocket757]

The minke whales removed their vigorous missiles, medium range, from Turkey and the geyropas ... didn't they?
By the way, after that incident, the process of negotiations began, treaties began to be concluded that somehow reduced the tension of the nuclear confrontation in the world ...
Not a bad result, if you look...

[Skeptic3]

The result is good. But exactly the opposite of what Khrushchev was counting on.
For him personally, it was a political defeat, which he was reminded of when he was removed from office.

[rocket757]

Are we talking about international affairs now, or are we talking about the "corn-grower"?

[Skeptic3]

From the point of view of today's international affairs, nuclear threats are a demonstration of weakness, an inability to solve problems by conventional forces.
If these threats are not implemented, it is a shame. To do so is suicide.

[strannik1985]

In terms of today's international affairs, nuclear threats

Not at all, the Russian Federation cannot compete in industrial potential with the entire NATO bloc and sympathetic countries, in this conflict Ukraine supplies cannon fodder, all the rest - money / weapons, etc. Nuclear weapons are one of the advantages, it is strange not to use them. Moreover, Ukraine has already provided a pretext by striking an airfield in Engels.

To do so is suicide.

Why is that?

[rocket757]

Catch up and overtake minke whales with comrades ... WHY ???
We have our own plans, our own affairs, and we will deal with that, and if sho ... we will always have time to bang, but then.

[Skeptic3]

Why would the implementation of the nuclear threat be suicidal? Since missiles can fly in both directions. Including the city in which you personally and your loved ones live.

[strannik1985]

Why would the implementation of the nuclear threat be suicidal?

Will Ukraine be given nuclear weapons? Seriously?

[Skeptic3]

In order for a rocket to reach the Russian Federation, it does not need to be transferred to Ukraine. It's easy enough to run. In the event of a nuclear attack on NATO, we will find ourselves in a situation of direct military conflict and any restrictions will be automatically lifted.

[strannik1985]

In the military sense, a single strike is not advisable, a massive one will cause a retaliatory strike with the transition of the conflict into TMV. Russia will simply withdraw from the NPT and sell nuclear warheads to Iran, and this completely changes the alignment in the region.

[Skeptic3]

O! Now this is an interesting idea! I'll try to reason.

Let's say that we handed over nuclear weapons to Iran.
Iran is happy and rubbing its hands. The devil himself is not his brother now. At least there is no need to fear external intrusion. It ships to Russia in bulk all its "Shaheds", missiles, and in general - everything that is. Both sides win.

The West is not interested in the further spread of nuclear weapons. The only way to influence this is to punish Russia. I see the only way to do this in a sharp increase in arms supplies to Ukraine, which will outweigh by ten times everything that Russia will receive from Iran.

Iran wins, Russia loses.

I think that the threat of the transfer of nuclear weapons can work if the West believes in it. This can be an effective leverage.
But after the transfer takes place - see the result above.

[strannik1985]

I'll try to reason.

Wrong (although what else to expect from a biased commentator? )
De jure, the Russian Federation already has the right to a nuclear response, tk. nuclear deterrence was hit, and more than once. Another thing is that this right is not used yet.
Further, if tactical nuclear weapons are handed over to Ukraine or a strike is carried out under the guise of actions by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, this already means a violation of the NPT or direct hostilities with NATO, which automatically cancels all agreements.
That is, in fact, the West unties Russia's hands for any reciprocal action.
Subject guilt nothing to do with objective reality or desire

punish

It does not have Russia, for the USA and its allies the Russian Federation is an enemy, and it is more than strange to talk about some objective assessments on the part of the enemy. If there was such an opportunity (nuclear attack / 10-fold supply of weapons), they would have taken advantage of it long ago.

[Skeptic3]

I do not understand.
You proposed to transfer nuclear weapons to Iran. I tried to simulate the consequences of such a decision.
In the original proposal, there was nothing about strikes against deterrents, nor about the transfer of nuclear weapons to Ukraine.
Can you object to the merits? How can the transfer of nuclear weapons to Iran be beneficial for the Russian Federation? Why are my assumptions wrong?

[strannik1985]

You proposed to transfer nuclear weapons to Iran.

Not right. You are trying to change the context, in any conflict there are at least two sides, in SVO there are many more. Further escalation will lead to unpredictable consequences, including the denunciation of the NPT with all the consequences.

In the original offer

Quite right, because these facts confuse your picture of the world, don't they?

How is the transfer of nuclear weapons to Iran

You yourself wrote about a possible transfer or nuclear strike under the guise of an operation by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The transfer of nuclear weapons will stop such actions, but the announcement of another "red line" will not.

[rocket757]

What are you talking about?
At the moment, we are doing what we can, as best we can, not without problems, we must admit ... and you look around, who has no problems and more than us ...
Nothing has ended yet and we will arrange the analysis according to the RESULTS.

[Terenin]

Quote: rocket757

We found someone to argue with, someone to warn ...

Yes, this is the most important enemy of Russia.

[rocket757]

Hi Gennady
The impudent Saxons are an old enemy who never betrays his principles...
That's why we have a hangover that someone decided to call them "partners", this is a mystery, for many, for all sane people in our country.
By the way, they are considered enemies in many places, if not everywhere, in general.
A strong enemy, insidious, unscrupulous...
I was very surprised, always, how we could think of, consider them as some kind of partners

[Ghost1]

And "someone" at the top still uses the word "partners" in their speeches in public.

[rocket757]

And who says that we have "giants of the mind" at the top, all the time. There's plenty out there, unfortunately.
Capitalism, however ... they are all rich, they think for their own benefit, first and foremost.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: rocket757

The White House does not believe that the supply of tanks to Kyiv threaten Russia

We found someone to argue with, someone to warn ...
The only thing that had to be done a long time ago was to move from words to deeds ....

Well, if the supply of heavy weapons is not a threat, then Russia needs to negotiate with Mexico on military-technical cooperation!

[rocket757]

American continent, minke whale sandbox, mainly...
There, if something happens, it must ripen there.

[nPuBaTuP]

Well, how could it be otherwise .... from their bell tower then .....

[Silver99]

The point is what methods Russia is waging war on, if, like the First World War, it’s possible that the “Abrams” will help the Armed Forces of Ukraine stay in business, but in general, a war of attrition depletes Russia’s resources, something is not at all visible to the strategist Gerasimov, because he is now is responsible for the NWO, with his appointment on the "western front without change", only the "musicians" are making noise.

[Tusv]

Quote from Silver99

only the "musicians" make noise.

I would say that only the Orchestra is actively advertised. And who is actively making noise near Orekhovo, Marinka, Avdeevka, Sukha beam and now near Ugledar "a big secret for a small company ... Such a huge secret"

[Lech from Android.]

American politicians are completely crazy ... they kill our people, both civilians and the military, with their Hymars, howitzers, riflemen and other weapons, and they declare in a blue eye that it does not threaten Russia ... bastards.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Lech from Android.

and they declare with a blue eye that it does not threaten Russia ... scoundrels.

And what better is the chatter of respected people who promise to strike at decision-making centers in the event of crossing the “red lines”?
The bastards, smeared with red paint, grimace in front of the sights, and the “chief commander” still cannot decide and continues to persuade the “mad dog”.
Absolute peace of mind ... It remains only to ask:
“Did you deign to start, Vladimir Vladimirovich, or do you continue to draw“ red lines ”and think about“ cunning tricks ”?”

[Skeptic3]

They mean that it does not threaten the sovereignty of Russia.

[rotmistr60]

what America is doing does not threaten Russia. They threaten Russian soldiers in Ukraine, not Russia, actually.

Kirby is one of the many American scum who hates Russia, and therefore every time the nonsense he spouts becomes more and more cynical. Therefore, listening to him and those like him in Germany, France, the Czech Republic, Poland, the Baltic States .. is harmful to the nervous system of a normal person.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: rotmistr60

Kirby is one of the many American scum

In normal countries, such bastards were sentenced to death for a fee. It is time to use the accumulated experience of the world community.
Maybe this method can shut the mouths of these cynics.

[Alexander Ivanov_11]

Yes, of course, killing the Russian World is not a threat to Russia, but simply to protect the Nazis ... Oh, in vain we helped them in Iraq and Afghanistan ...

[Bingo]

How many times has it been said - to put MANPADS in Colombia, for example, or in Mexico, to rebels, freedom fighters, against the power of drug dealers from the CIA - and declare - but we believed

[optimist007]

So the Soviet missiles that were in Cuba did not threaten the United States, they stood, lay, but just did not fly.

[ivan2022]

In Moscow, too, for decades they did not consider that the supply of Russian weapons threatened anyone. And Russia, with the number 6 economy in the World, was the number 2 arms seller.
And now what, made a "discovery"? Probably, because when they left the Warsaw Pact countries - - - they betrayed their allies, but left their weapons ... They did everything !!

[YanniKounnar]

Je pense que la fourniture de missile à...Cuba ne menacerait pas plus la Floride (et un peu plus loin...) sarcasme !

I think that the supply of missiles to ... Cuba will no longer threaten Florida (and a little further ...) sarcasm!

[Mavrikiy]

The White House responded to Moscow's warnings do not cross the “red line” in military support for Ukraine. According to US National Security Council spokesman John Kirby, the White House does not disdain Moscow's calls, but what America does does not threaten Russia.

Once again, Moscow has been pooped on its head. This is not the ugly White House, this Moscow is not adequate. Who set her up with pissing rags from the offices!

[BorzRio]

"Moscow's warnings not to cross the "red line" in military support for Ukraine"...
It's called shame. With the concept of "red lines" Russian officials have sunk below the plinth in front of the whole world. Only the lazy did not wipe their feet on these red lines.

[Vladimir M]

Now our "red lines" are like the Chinese "101 Warnings" once. It's time to finish drawing new "red lines".

[Terenin]

According to US National Security Council spokesman John Kirby, the White House does not disdain Moscow's calls, but what America does does not threaten Russia.

In controversy and MFA, this is called "answer side by side" to the question asked. There is an answer, but nothing

[thrush68]

A female dog !!! what are the red lines ??? until the penguins get in the teeth and it will continue like this.

[Dilettante grandfather]

At the same time, Kirby added that the Abrams, of course, threaten Russian soldiers in Ukraine, but not Russia itself.

So our "Sarmatians", "Vanguards", "Poseidons" - threaten only the armed forces of our opponents, and not their countries. I propose an adequate exchange: the United States supplies tanks to Ukrainians, and we supply "Sarmatians" to the United States. For military bases.

[AdAstra]

Well, comrades, do you remember how much bravura news / articles and comments under them were on February 24.02.2022, XNUMX ??? And then "unexpectedly" ravines were drawn.

[Ross xnumx]

The White House does not believe that the supply of tanks to Kyiv threaten Russia

The deployment of the naval base in Cuba, Venezuela and the countries of Latin America loyal to Russia, as well as the Caliber and Zircons, will also not be threatened by the United States ... I guess ...

[donavi49]

Have you asked Cuba? If anything, there are American tourists and American loans. And if placed by force, it is possible that they will run to Biden to ask for protection from the evil Russians.

Venezuela is very far away. Before the United States, there are no tactical carriers trite. And, for the Navy, there is no free ship composition, and if you drive it on rotation, then this is actually a round-the-world trip, the ships will die very quickly in terms of resources. Especially given the state of ship repair. I am already silent about the fact that they now want to forgive Venezuela in exchange for pouring Zhizhi into the market. And probably she will not agree to host the base.

[glock-17]

And it all started with harmless helmets and body armor or "non-lethal weapons." It was then that the red lines had to be drawn. I was downvoted in one of the comments for what I suggested someday it would come to ballistic missiles. I assumed that further modern tanks. And so it happened. There is only one conclusion, connivance always leads to an escalation of the conflict.

[Vladimirovich_7]

Yes, arrogance knows no bounds. Made to behave like that. We "love" you, but you do not pay attention :)

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Stop mumbling: use SBC, there will be many goals.

[Tusv]

They threaten Russian soldiers in Ukraine, not Russia, actually.

But the men do not know and continue to believe that the Army is a cast from the Russian people. And His Majesty the Russian people do not like peaceful dukes and aristocratic Bils. And we have "Nach" in the same way as in German it denotes the direction, only more specifically

[fax66]

"The White House does not believe that the supply of tanks to Kyiv threatens Russia"

To all appearances, the Kremlin absolutely agrees in this statement of the White House.

[single-n]

Well, why are you so belittling ours. They are now preparing to express deep concern. It may even come to condemnation. What scary red lines we can draw!!! For 11 months, they beat their hand. And if the USA becomes completely insolent. Then we can even ....... it's scary even to write ... but suddenly all the same we have to. ....- resolutely declare the unfriendly policy of the West!!!

[Boris Sergeev]

Suppose the situation: the Russian Federation supplies tanks to Mexico, which is conducting military operations against the United States and declares that the tanks do not pose a threat to American security. US response options:
a) Publication of articles that Russian tanks will not change the situation at the front and will be destroyed in batches;
b) Impact on supply channels, storage bases and ports, including loading

[Tusv]

Quote: Boris Sergeev

Suppose the situation: the Russian Federation supplies tanks to Mexico, which is conducting military operations against the United States and declares that the tanks do not pose a threat to American security. US response options:

You do not have the correct answer Tse - Caribbean crisis version 2.0

[aszzz888]

At the same time, Kirby added that the Abrams, of course, threaten Russian soldiers in Ukraine, but not Russia itself.

Merikatos got out. Campaign is just the beginning (if we do not finish with the unnecessary). Planes ahead, rockets...

[Ghost1]

And our ship somewhere in the Atlantic was conducting Yao exercises, but I didn’t see any reaction from the West. Apparently the red lines made it clear to the Anglo-Saxons that you can ignore any signals and what.
After some murky negotiations that were with the United States in October, November, they apparently probed or received guarantees that the red lines are very deep. Therefore, heavy weapons were flooded.

[Eva Star]

There are now more than two million Russians in Crimea, if the attempt on their lives means nothing to the government. Why do we need such a Russia?

[Skeptic3]

It seems that Hitler said something similar: if the German people are not able to win the war, they have no right to exist.

[Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira]

Those. purple doesn't count?
But in fact, there are already so many of these red lines that it’s time to knit strong reliable networks from them! Maybe these Abrams and Leopards will get confused in them?

[Zik256x]

Quote: Bearded

When will the Kremlin realize that the supply of Zircons and Calibers with nuclear warheads to Cuba does not threaten the United States?

But will Cuba now want to be under the gun?

[Andrey Andreev_2]

I consider it a betrayal of Putin, Lavrov and their cronies, who discuss and agree with the Americans on WHAT IS POSSIBLE AND WHAT CANNOT KILL RUSSIANS?! (((Where are the answers for the decision-making centers: Washington, Brussels, Berlin, London ....????

[ivan2022]

Too late..... What were they thinking when they licked for three decades...? And Putin is not the king, he was elected and the elections were recognized many times.
Now God alone is the judge of what to do with such ......

[Skeptic3]

Commentators grab onto nuclear weapons the way a loser grabs at his last hope.
Nobody wants to think that nuclear missiles can go both ways.
It seems that only immortal Kashchei gathered here.
It's stupid and gross.

[Volhv]

In the White House, the gopniks do not believe that these troughs will cause harm, shooting at the defenders of the civilian population of Donbass, subjected to genocide by the nationalists of Ukraine, and at this civilian population itself ... a mistake, however, turns out ...

[Mikhail Maslov]

Conduct missile firing off the very coast of the United States as close to the borders as possible and declare the same thing. Moreover, shoot from the Atlantic and Pacific and Artic directions. And let's see whose eggs are stronger.

[evgen1221]

OK, we boldly and openly supply the mace, s500, and so on to Iran, Korea, Yemen. And we answer exactly the same. Our deliveries in some way do not threaten the United States and their mongrels. This is to protect against the corona virus.

[Vasily Krylov]

No one and nothing, neither to supply nor sell. WE HAVE BEEN INSTALLED now our fighters are fighting against their weapons.

[Vasily Krylov]

For some reason, many began to discuss the "red line" and bypass the stated reasons for the supply, this is not correct, because there are several acting factors of what is happening, the desire of "global crap" to be at the top of the "food pyramid" and undoubtedly making a profit. Yes, I'm a bore, so I remind you of "300 percent of the profit and the crime for which" ... Something like that. And the tanks? May our lads and Abrams and Leopards beat them. Fight guys. We look forward to victory.

[Mikhail Maslov]

Nothing needs to be delivered to anyone yet. To strike at stations, airports on the territory of Poland, where there is a concentration of Western "aid". Moreover, to strike with one of the waves preceding the strikes on Ukraine. What awaits us is either negotiations or a real nuclear war. But the position of the West will change, they will begin to collect everything that is possible and pull it to our borders and near rear areas.

[Ezekiel 25-17]

The supply of Western tanks to (in) Ukraine is a direct and obvious threat to the Russian Federation.

[TIR]

Back in the summer, it became clear that the supply of Western tanks, helicopters and fighters was a matter of time. It is now clear that the use of tactical nuclear weapons will also be. It's a question of time. The Armed Forces of Ukraine will also strike deep into Russia with strike drones. The Armed Forces of Ukraine have a lot of such drones. They are holding us back from the use of nuclear weapons.