We are not the last of the Russian Mohicans

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We are not the last of the Russian Mohicans

Recently, the problems of demography in Russia have come into the spotlight of a number of political scientists, politicians and the media. And it is simply impossible not to notice them. Even the satirical publication Panorama published a note titled "Black Lives Matter Guide to List Russians as Oppressed Races."

The corresponding statement was published on the official page of the movement on Twitter. According to activists, historically the Russian race was in slavery under the name "serfdom", being exploited by landowners and tsars - white Germans. Solidarity with other oppressed races spread among Russians, a special awe appeared before black workers, which is why the expression “plow like black” arose in Russia.



“Now that powerful propaganda against the Russian race has begun, we clearly see that they are in the same position as the blacks,”

- says on the motion page.

Is it really now the American community will help to strengthen a positive attitude towards the Russian race in the country. So, Netflix has already announced a new series about stories Russia, and the entire cast will consist of blacks and Russians, and in Hollywood they promised to give at least half of the main roles to the Cossacks when shooting westerns.

And what does the statistics say?


According to Rosstat, the number of Russians in Russia is declining. If in 1989 there were almost 120 million Russians, in 2010 - 111 million, and according to the latest census - only 109 million people. That is, in thirty years Russia lost 11 million Russians without wars!

And what about the general population of Russia? In November 2022, Rosstat data was published: the resident population of Russia as of August 1, 2022 amounted to 145,1 million people.

Seems like a good number. But from the World Population Prospects 2022 forecast, it follows that by 2100 the population of Russia will decrease by 33,2 million people compared to 2021. “But this is an international organization, so it gives out wishful thinking,” the reader will think.

If so! Our native government predicted in 2020 that by 2022 Russia will lose 1 (one) million people. And successfully fulfilled its plans to reduce the population: from January to October 2022, the population of Russia decreased by almost half a million people. If we take into account the reduction in the number in 2021, then you have a million people.

Of course, you can blame the reduction in the number of inhabitants on a terrible, terrible pandemic, but it doesn’t work. According to the National Medical Research Center (NMRC) them. V. A. Almazov, in 2020, 944 people died from diseases of the circulatory system, and 843 people died with a diagnosis of covid during the same time.

Do I also need to explain the difference: “death from covid” and “diagnosed with covid”? After all, such a diagnosis was made for the dead and for other reasons, but with a positive test. There was an anecdote in the course: “Two police officers are examining the scene of a murder. “Look, there are three bullet wounds. What to write in the cause of death? one asks. "Like what? Of course, covid,” the second one replies.

Experts explained that the high mortality rate during the pandemic was due to the fact that many specialized hospitals (oncology, tuberculosis, cardiology, urology, etc.) were repurposed to treat covid. Like this. But about health problems a little later, but for now let's ask the question: will we die out like mammoths?

Or like the Mohicans from Fenimore Cooper's novel, turned into an assimilated mestizo population, there are about 150 of them in total, they live on a reservation in Wisconsin.

So will the Russians repeat the fate of the Mohicans?

Take care of men!


But there were other predictions! The USSR State Statistics Committee predicted in 1989 that the population of the RSFSR should have grown to 2022 million people by the end of 170, including more than 140 million Russians.

At one time, the great Russian scientist Mendeleev calculated that there should have been about 500 million Russians in the middle of the XNUMXth century. However, Russia is now in the top ten worst countries in terms of high mortality rates, especially among men.

In terms of life expectancy for men, Russia ranks 141st out of 200 countries. In 2021, this figure was 66,7. Women on average live almost 10 years longer. Most male centenarians live in Ingushetia, Dagestan and Moscow.

The main risk factors for men's health are bad habits: smoking and drinking alcohol, as well as inattention to one's own health. Catastrophically reduced male population in the Central regions of Russia. And for example, in the USSR in 1962, the life expectancy of men (68,75) was better than now in the 66,7st century (XNUMX), even despite the heavy losses during the Great Patriotic War.

The head of the Ministry of Health of the Russian Federation, Mikhail Murashko, made the following confession:

"Death rates for men around 35–40 years of age are twice that of women."

Experts say that if such negative rates of demography in Russia continue, then only 58% of men will live to be 65 years old. And this is without taking into account the fact that men are involved in modern military conflicts, and not only in Syria!

Have Russians lost passionarity?


It became fashionable to talk about the loss of passionarity by Russians at the beginning of this century. The reason for the discussion was the work of Lev Gumilyov "Ethnogenesis and the biosphere of the Earth." His passionarity is a certain quality that makes the ethnic group behave very actively. Passionarity is a vital energy that spills out. It is characteristic both of ethnic groups as a whole, and of individual people, whom Gumilyov called passionaries.

Gumilyov took the word "passionarity" from Dolores Ibarruri, a well-known Spanish communist. The passionate speeches of this woman during the Spanish Civil War thundered throughout the world. Her party name was "Passionaria", which means "passionate". According to Gumilyov, the highest level of passionarity is sacrifice. When for the sake of the ideal people are ready to give their lives. For example, Ivan Susanin.

How do you become a passionary? Gumilev believed that the surge of passionarity is influenced by the energy of the Sun or cosmic rays. Gumilyov examined world history and discovered in different epochs among different ethnic groups a clear consequence of such passionate impulses. When these peoples fell under their influence, they began to actively modify the landscape around them, changed their sphere of activity, destroyed the old foundations, created masterpieces, etc.

Terror in Russia during the years of the revolution and the subsequent repressions and purges of the 20s, 30s and 40s claimed the lives of millions of the most passionate representatives of Russians, seriously weakening the gene pool of the ethnos and reducing its passionarity. The situation was aggravated by the Great Patriotic War, during which the most courageous and active representatives of the peoples of the USSR, primarily Russians, were at the forefront.


Try to find the “Russian share” on this diagram

In February 2021, during a meeting with editors of the Russian media, Russian President Vladimir Putin said:

“I believe in passionarity, in the theory of passionarity. This, in fact, as in nature, society - there is a development, peak, attenuation. Russia has not reached its peak. We are on the march, on the march of development.”

This statement by Putin was commented on by well-known people in Russia. Publicist Sergei Pereslegin believes that

"In Russia, the 600-year cycle ends."

In his opinion, the beginning of the growth of passionarity in Russia happened in 1380, when the Battle of Kulikovo took place, and Russia entered the world stage. However, he adds,

“Russia has experience of reassembly, during which it is, as it were, renewed and begins the next cycle. Therefore, it is possible that a new growth of passionarity will appear in the near future.”

President of the Center for Strategic Studies "Russia - Islamic World" Shamil Sultanov does not believe in the passionarity of Russians:

“The Russian nation is broken, fragmented now. It has no ideology, it has no long-term strategy. It has no charismatic leaders. From this point of view, I don’t think that the Russian nation is generally passionate now.”

Economist Alexander Auzan noted that

“We are in the “golden autumn” phase, in the phase of calm settlement, but surprises in the emergence of new factors are not ruled out.”

True, all these statements were made before the start of the NWO. Perhaps the opinion of the survey participants has changed since then.

“When we say that we are at war with the West, we must be aware that 145 of our millions are at war with a billion! But the billionth civilization of the West in the future will fluctuate around this figure, and maybe even increase, and in the meantime we will begin to decrease, ”

- not without reason, the writer, chairman of the supervisory board of the Institute of Demography and Migration, Yuri Krupnov, complains.

No one is to blame, but what to do?


Maybe remember the ancient recipes.

After all, the problems of demography worried even Ancient Rome. The Romans decided that it was necessary to fight childlessness. Therefore, the childless in Ancient Rome were deprived of many rights! For comparison: now in Russia the ideology of childlessness is being actively promoted - childfree, characterized by a conscious desire not to have children.

So, maybe it's time for Russia to start fighting the ideology of childlessness?

And further. During the reign of the Roman emperor Octavian Augustus, several laws were adopted regarding demographic regulation, in particular, the stimulation of the birth rate. So, for the senators and horsemen of ancient Rome, the following rules were introduced: the obligation of marriage and the presence of children. Bachelors and the childless had their civil rights reduced, while Roman citizens with children were given various benefits.

For example, unmarried people completely lost the opportunity to inherit the property of their parents, and those who had less than three children inherited only half. Also, the policy of Augustus was aimed at promoting traditional values ​​and having many children.

Yes, we also have families with three children have a number of advantages. But the childless are not limited in their rights and do not even pay taxes on childlessness!


The infographic is already a little outdated, but the trend is unlikely to change.

The Russian scientist M. V. Lomonosov can be considered the founder of Russian demography. In his work “On the Preservation and Reproduction of the Russian People” (1761), Lomonosov assigns the most important role to the demographic factor in the development of the country:

“I believe the most important thing is the preservation and reproduction of the Russian people, which is the majesty, power and wealth of the entire state, and not in the vastness, futile without inhabitants.”

Lomonosov proposed to abolish marriage of convenience and coercion, as well as to allow marriage more than three times. The reason for this decision was the high female mortality rate during childbirth, therefore, he considered it wrong to deprive spouses of husbands widowed as a result of accidents.

In addition, Lomonosov advised to prohibit taking the monastic rite before the age of 45-50 so that before this age there would be an opportunity to start a family and give birth to children.

He also considered various aspects of the high mortality of the population. The scientist believed that

“It is better to establish treatment according to the rules, medical science components. To this, a sufficient number of doctors, healers and pharmacies are required in all cities, satisfied with medicines, even if only decent in our climate.

Here we come to health issues.

It's time to increase healthcare costs!


Academician Robert Nigmatulin is sure that today life expectancy, even without taking into account covid, is falling due to low healthcare costs.

“Our health care costs as a share of GDP are two times less than in Europe. By the way, this applies not only to healthcare, but also to education and science. Twice smaller! In relation to the RSFSR, that is, to the Soviet period, we are losing about 200 thousand people a year more. Therefore, the share of GDP for healthcare needs to be increased to 6,5%,”

- the academician is sure.

According to his calculations, by 2025, a total of about 10 trillion rubles should be allocated for these purposes. What is the reality today? According to the draft federal budget for 2023 and for the planning period of 2024 and 2025. The share of health care expenditures in the structure of GDP will continue to decline, and in the structure of federal budget expenditures, the indicator will remain within the range of 5,1–5,4%.

Director of the Institute for National Economic Programming of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Corresponding Member of the Russian Academy of Sciences Alexander Shirov believes that in Russia the birth rate has been declining over the past decade under the influence of rather low economic growth rates, due to the stagnation of the level and quality of life:

“If you look at the ratio of per capita GDP of Russia and the United States of America in terms of purchasing power parity, we will see that the peak was reached in 2013, then we approached the 50 percent level of the US level, but then stagnation set in. Moreover, it covered all groups of the population: both rich and poor Russians. And if we developed at least as we did in the period after the 2008-2009 crisis, then by 2019 we would have not 47%, but 60% of the US level. Accordingly, this factor influenced, among other things, the decline in the birth rate.”

The situation in the field of demography will largely depend on how the social sphere develops. Writer and publicist Yuri Krupnov, commenting on the excess mortality in Russia in 2020-2021. in 1 million people, outraged:

"One million deaths! You can imagine? And there is no talk about it at all! Not to mention the fact that neither a government commission nor a commission in the State Duma has been created, which should have been carefully analyzed, but why did this happen? Not a single page of an official report or message.”

Krupnov is sure that we urgently need to move from a situation where the average family has one or more children (1,5) to a family with two or more children (2,5). Then we will first be able to reverse our catastrophic demography and return to the mode of simple reproduction of the population.

Given the poor demographics, maybe it's time to introduce benefits for families with two children, and not just three?

By the way, today every tenth citizen of the Russian Federation does not want to have children at all. According to the already mentioned Academician Nigmatulin,

“If a woman is raising two children, then, of course, she should receive some money for this, in fact, this is her salary.”
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  1. +14
    27 January 2023 05: 04
    Passionarity is directly related to the ultra-urbanization of the population in large cities.
    How can you start a large family with a low income in an 8-square-meter apartment? request
    A family should have several rooms, a room for each child ... and the current apartments are miserable and do not favor the reproduction of human offspring.
    It is logical that people do not seek to have extra mouths.
    In general, the problem of reducing the number of our people is multifaceted and it did not arise yesterday.
    1. +1
      27 January 2023 06: 49
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Passionarity is directly related to the ultra-urbanization of the population in large cities.
      How can you start a large family with a low income in an 8-square-meter apartment? request
      A family should have several rooms, a room for each child ... and the current apartments are miserable and do not favor the reproduction of human offspring.
      It is logical that people do not seek to have extra mouths.
      In general, the problem of reducing the number of our people is multifaceted and it did not arise yesterday.

      About a separate room for each child is complete nonsense, a 3-room apartment is quite enough for a family with
      3 children, with a normal upbringing, they will be accommodated in the same room and grow up friendly, and not individual farmers.
      1. +12
        27 January 2023 08: 37
        Quote from ARIONkrsk
        About a separate room for each child is complete nonsense, a 3-room apartment is quite enough for a family with
        3 children, with a normal upbringing, they will be accommodated in the same room and grow up friendly, and not individual farmers.

        this is if they are same-sex, but for 3 children of different sexes, back in the USSR, a 4-room apartment was considered normal. How do you imagine the normal living of heterosexual teenagers in one room? the only option, as I slept in the hall on the couch and forever without my own corner, and when the guests are generally an ambush .. so, purely theoretically and in a 2-room apartment you can with 3 children - but this is what they say that such conditions do not push " be fruitful and multiply" the greater part of the population.
        1. -4
          27 January 2023 12: 36
          Quote: Level 2 Advisor
          back in the USSR, a 4k apartment was considered normal

          Come on?
          Quote: Level 2 Advisor
          I slept in the hall on the couch and always without my corner, and when the guests are generally an ambush

          The usual Soviet story, many of us grew up like that!
          Quote: Level 2 Advisor
          such conditions do not encourage "be fruitful and multiply" the majority of the population ..

          Who encouraged your parents?
          1. +8
            27 January 2023 18: 32
            Quote: Serg65
            The usual Soviet story, many of us grew up like that!

            I wouldn't say it's normal if it was.
            Quote: Serg65
            Who encouraged your parents?

            my inhabitants lived and I was born in the USSR, but now it is gone .. do you really think that since that time, nothing has changed around at all?
            1. 0
              28 January 2023 13: 04
              Most of all in the article I liked the diagram of the world population.
              Saved on my page in VK
              Very clear.
            2. 0
              30 January 2023 07: 20
              Quote: Level 2 Advisor
              Do you really think that since that time, nothing has changed around at all?

              Of course, it has changed ... under the USSR, for the slogan "Why give birth to poverty" it was possible to settle in the Mordovian forests for a long time, and now pro-Western agents, to whom you voluntarily or involuntarily belong, freely declare this inhumane slogan to the broad masses!
              1. 0
                2 February 2023 10: 49
                Quote: Serg65
                under the USSR, for the slogan "Why give birth to poverty" it was possible to settle for a long time in the Mordovian forests

                It was impossible. During the existence of the USSR, no one was imprisoned for such an essentially expression of a personal opinion.
                But the policy, directly aimed at ensuring that the birth of a child does not plunge the family into poverty, was very much in the USSR. Provision of an apartment on a preferential basis. Free (not in words, but in deeds) education and a system of institutions for the care of children of preschool age (nurseries, kindergartens). Free medical care. Free (again, not in words, but in deeds) hobby groups, youth creativity palaces, sports sections. Vouchers for summer holidays for children at reduced prices. All this (unlike the repressive fantasies you expressed in your message) existed in the Soviet Union.
          2. -3
            31 January 2023 22: 48
            The usual Soviet story, many of us grew up like that!

            That is why many do not want to have children to repeat their experience.
            1. +1
              1 February 2023 14: 52
              Quote from solar
              That is why many do not want to have children to repeat their experience.

              Come on, you already carry this nonsense! The main reasons are commercialism and selfishness!
      2. +8
        27 January 2023 08: 49
        Quote from ARIONkrsk
        About a separate room for each child is complete nonsense, a 3-room apartment is quite enough for a family with
        3 children, with a normal upbringing, they will be accommodated in the same room and grow up friendly, and not individual farmers.

        What does the individual farmers have to do with it ... each person has a personal space where he sleeps, rests, works ... and when, after work, exhausted parents come to a small apartment where their children walk on their heads, there is no normal rest. request
        Therefore, large families are good in spacious houses ... less conflict.
      3. +6
        27 January 2023 09: 35
        2 cities where all the youth go ... you know what
      4. +11
        27 January 2023 18: 38
        Quote from ARIONkrsk

        About a separate room for each child is complete nonsense, a 3-room apartment is quite enough for a family with
        3 children, with a normal upbringing, they will be accommodated in the same room and grow up friendly, and not individual farmers.

        Well, live with three in a one-room apartment, who's in the way. And people live, where to go. The only question is - is it good or bad?
        In order for a married couple to decide to have a 2nd, 3rd child, three, in my opinion, conditions must be met. 1. Material wealth. 2. An apartment corresponding to the number of family members, and most importantly, 3. Confidence in the future, which left with the Soviet government.
        And do not nod your head at other peoples, where the birth rate is high. In Russia, too, there were once a lot of large families, especially in villages. In such families, and in those days, the birth of another child did not really affect the financial situation of the family. Today is a completely different matter. The birth of a second child is already a serious burden on the family budget. Therefore, find me volunteers who will agree to live worse tomorrow than they lived yesterday.
        1. -2
          28 January 2023 07: 34
          In order for a married couple to decide to give birth to a 2nd, 3rd child, three, in my opinion, conditions must be met. 1. Material wealth. 2. An apartment corresponding to the number of family members, and most importantly, 3. Confidence in the future, which has gone along with


          Prosperity is a loose concept, if you have a 3-room apartment, you will want a 5-room apartment and at the same time you need to go to Thailand twice a year and buy the latest iPhone model. In the poorest countries, the birth rate is high, they do not think about apartments or resorts, but they have children in large numbers, and the children themselves will figure out how to live.
          In fact, this is selfishness, to live for yourself, this will lead to your family dying out, and people from Asia will live in the apartment.


          Oddly enough, but it is necessary to lower the standard of living, then the population will stop thinking about iPhones and start giving birth.
          1. 0
            28 January 2023 12: 40
            In order for people to start giving birth, as in Africa, it is necessary not only to lower the standard of living by a hundred times, but also to abolish education. Then people will not only stop doing family planning, but will generally forget where children come from. And then they will begin to breed like cats.
            1. 0
              28 January 2023 21: 53
              At the same time, the climate is still like in Africa.
          2. +1
            2 February 2023 22: 05
            Quote: nickname7
            Prosperity is a loose concept,

            No. Prosperity is the average standard of living in the country. Moreover, this is when those around you live no worse, but no better either. Of course, within reason. In such a situation, when your child comes to school, he will be dressed and shod no worse than his classmates. Those. The wealth of people varies greatly. Children from poor families feel inferior in the classroom, where there are children of very wealthy parents. And children, as you know, are very cruel. A good way out would be mandatory, the same for all, school uniform. Separate education for boys and girls would be nice.
            Quote: nickname7
            you will have a 3-room apartment you will want 5

            For what? For her to be empty? This is all your ideas. I received a 4-room apartment from the Soviet authorities when I already had two children, and it was already too late to give birth to a third. And if I got this apartment on time, then I would have at least three. The road, as they say, is a spoon for dinner. And now, when my children have left, why do I need these 3 rooms? This is what the authorities should think about if they are really concerned about the increase in the birth rate.
        2. +1
          31 January 2023 11: 49
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          meet three, in my opinion, conditions. 1. Material wealth. 2. An apartment corresponding to the number of family members, and most importantly, 3. Confidence in the future, which left with the Soviet government.

          It was already ... among my classmates there were families with 2 children, with 3 it is already rare - 2-3 families per class and not one with 4 children.
          I was born in 1970, a small town - almost all one-story. There was money, there were rooms for each child, confidence (1970 !!!!!) - was ..
          There were almost no children for more than 2 ...
          And it's like that all over the country...
          1. 0
            2 February 2023 11: 17
            There were almost no children for more than 2 ...
            And it's like that all over the country...

            Well, this is a normal process. Demographic transition as civilization and its technological base develop.
            And that characteristic such processes occurred plus or minus about everywhere. Worldwide.
            Actually, there is such an indicator - the total fertility rate (TFR). In fact, this is the average number of children per 1 woman.
            So ....
            1) TFR of the Netherlands (Holland): 1910 - 3,94; 1960 - 3,1; 1985 - 1,51; 2000 - 1,72; 2019 - 1,57
            2) TFR of Iran: 1960 - 7,3; 1985 - 6,26; 2000 - 2,02; 2019 - 1,77; 2021 - 1,69
            3) Brazilian TFR: 1960 - 6,07; 1985 - 3,49; 2000 - 2,3; 2018 - 1,75
            4) TFR of Vietnam: period 1960-1965 - 7,33; period 1985-1990 - 3,96; 2001 - 2,25; 2022 - 2,01
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      3. +2
        28 January 2023 12: 41
        Do you lack enemies in Ukraine? Do you want a non-war to start inside Russia too?
      4. 0
        29 January 2023 02: 43
        As a child, a Jewish boy took a scoop and a bucket from you in the sandbox?
    3. +4
      27 January 2023 12: 33
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      How can you start a large family with a low income in an 8-square-meter apartment?
      A family should have several rooms, a room for each child ... and the current apartments are miserable and do not favor the reproduction of human offspring.

      It's even scary to think how my parents decided to have four children, living in a two-room house with stove heating!!! Moreover, the state did not buy these children in the form of maternity capital!
      1. +8
        27 January 2023 16: 58
        Your parents' house had a yard, a garden, a nearby river, fields, forests. And in the apartment you look at each other and do not know where to go. And most importantly - perhaps your parents did not have a TV then.
        1. -4
          28 January 2023 08: 56
          about the TV for sure, about the surrounding fields and forests - fantasies, the city grandparents lived in communal apartments and hostels, and did not whine: "the area is small and there is nowhere to rest."
          1. +1
            28 January 2023 21: 55
            "... they didn't whine: "the area is small and there is nowhere to rest."
            Well, yes, yes, and probably they didn’t dream of a separate apartment, right?
            1. +1
              30 January 2023 07: 31
              Quote from AdAstra
              Well, yes, yes, and probably they didn’t dream of a separate apartment, right?

              They dreamed about Communism, about the imminent arrival of which from the TV screen for 12 hours every day the announcers spoke! Of course, they dreamed about the same apartments, but, unlike modern dreamers, they made children ... and you know why? But because in the Soviet country, where everything is for the working people, the future of the elderly depended on their children, and not on the state!
        2. +3
          28 January 2023 11: 46
          And most importantly - perhaps your parents did not have a TV then.

          ... Not everything is so simple, dear. I AM
          also grew up in a "stove-heated house" with cubicle rooms for six people - three children (2 brothers and a sister), parents and grandmother. And we bought a TV in 1965 ("Start-3", one channel - First).
          The point is different. Where are they now, these villages and villages?
          1. +2
            30 January 2023 10: 16
            Quote: Dingo
            Where are they now, these villages and villages?

            what It’s a bit late for you to catch on to the villages, it was necessary to sound the alarm since the mid-70s of the last century!
        3. 0
          30 January 2023 07: 25
          Quote: Carmela
          Your parents' house had a yard, a garden, a nearby river, fields, forests.

          3 acres and a plant behind a fence!
          Quote: Carmela
          And in the apartment you look at each other and do not know where to go

          Run away to different parts of the country, why torture yourself?!
          Quote: Carmela
          And most importantly - perhaps your parents did not have a TV then.

          Radium ... that was the name of the TV!
      2. 0
        28 January 2023 12: 44
        Your parents had very different values. Much more traditional. This era is gone and it is impossible to return to it. You just need to accept it.
        1. 0
          30 January 2023 07: 33
          Quote: Skeptik3
          Your parents had very different values

          Values ​​are always the same, as my grandfather said...always be a man, not a beast!
          1. 0
            31 January 2023 11: 57
            Quote: Serg65
            Quote: Skeptik3
            Your parents had very different values

            Values ​​are always the same, as my grandfather said...always be a man, not a beast!

            Unfortunately the values ​​are different.
            Under the USSR, the birth of a child weighing less than 1,5 kg was not registered as a fact of birth - if it survives, we will register it.
            Under the king, "died? God gave, God took!"
            That is, the strongest healthy children survived - natural selection.
            And now 0.5 kg is already nursed.
            Will the offspring of a child a little more than 2 palms in size be healthy and strong?
            By all means...
            Why did allergy sufferers go in the 1970s, when food chemistry was not in sight? And because they began to try to nurse underweight children ...
    4. 0
      1 February 2023 02: 21
      Lech from Android. (Lech from Android). January 27, 2023 05:04. NEW - "... Passionarity is directly related to the ultra-urbanization of the population in large cities. How can you start a large family with a low income in an 8-square-meter apartment?..."


      You're right. but approach THIS part of the question from a dead end No. . Not apartments in multi-storey barracks that have already exceeded 15 floors. With a courtyard with a dwarf playground for several thousand residents of houses standing close to each other. fool A normal renovation with the development of a building complex with compatible block cells for a house-cottage. with a choice of typical options for a house of 2 floors with a local area of ​​at least 12 acres.
      Such mini cities - remember in the early USSR - to create cities - gardens. good With accommodation at the house garage. workshop, etc. And this is a state program for the citizens of Russia - only the indigenous peoples of Russia. good Those who want citizenship. only for myself . only for example now through SVO. As a staff battalion - prove with blood .. that you accept Russia as your homeland! Then Russia recognizes you as a citizen. soldier And so. mostly fraudulently or almost honestly but for the same money. bully See the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation. And as you know- "bought for money. for money it will be SOLD!" bully
      We have a sea of ​​places in Russia. and then someone was given 1 hectare incomprehensibly. you will not immediately see your own in the cities. bully
      That's demographics and health, and why bitterly bite off the affairs of others is enough. in this situation. The state only benefits. no, don't trade. and the STATE!
      Guests helping native Russians spend our social budget money and increasing the process of crime and terrorist and criminal activity сm. reports of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB. it's time to go home at your own expense А to more advanced technology(robotics) in the USSR successfully passed from a shovel and small-scale mechanization to similar systems) good "thank you" Gorby turned the process "IN THE ASS"! wassat
      The main thing is to start RIGHT!!! hi
  2. -7
    27 January 2023 05: 49
    The problem is acute and it has no solution in the vein of "dialectical materialism".
    As an option, at least for a while, ban abortions, entertainment shows on TV and limit the sale of alcohol (or even increase the excise tax).
    It would also be nice, at least in some way, to formalize the victory in one's own, without unnecessary "filling up the enemy with corpses."
    We ourselves and our desire for comfortable egoism are mainly to blame for the problem of population decline, but the state should also cover this problem in terms of propaganda / ideology.
    1. +2
      27 January 2023 06: 42
      Quite right, the problem must be solved comprehensively, otherwise all these maternity capitals are of no use. Here the globalists have a plan to reduce and its fruits are visible, China has already begun to decline, then India, Africa ...
    2. +10
      27 January 2023 08: 40
      Quote: Vladimir80
      ban abortions, entertainment shows on TV and limit the sale of alcohol (or even increase the excise tax)

      Do you think this is what prevents 3 children in the family from being in Russia? namely entertainment shows, abortions and alcohol? naive..
      1. +1
        27 January 2023 09: 52
        Maybe naive. In the absence of a clear ideology (education) at school, the ideology for young people is largely created by TV / Internet / music culture, and there - darkness. Alcohol is more for the 25+ generation, but if you remember about the restriction of alcohol in Gorbachev's times, there was a small surge in the birth rate (according to statistics).
    3. +12
      27 January 2023 09: 08
      Quote: Vladimir80
      As an option, at least for a while, ban abortions, entertainment shows on TV and limit the sale of alcohol (or even increase the excise tax).

      You can ban everything, but there will be no sense. It's not about abortion, and certainly not about alcohol.
      The family, its very meaning, has been purposefully destroyed for the last hundred years, and now someone is "sincerely" surprised at the demographic decline...
      Quote: Vladimir80
      the problem of population decline is mainly to blame ourselves and our desire for comfortable selfishness

      Of course we are to blame. It was we who made enrichment the meaning of this life, but we have been promoting it for more than three decades. It was we who raised the "cult of success" to the skies, and who cannot afford an iPhone, Louis Viton and Kruzak - this is "inappropriate" (by the way, this is even more pronounced in children). We are the ones who put up price tags in shops and dentists, we sell real estate for the price of a space shuttle wing, we have made life in the countryside almost unbearable, and because of us it is not easy to find decent medical care even in the city. We came up with a modern education and exam, which is almost impossible to write with dignity without the help of tutors. It was we who transferred everything around to commercial rails ...
      I understand you correctly, you need to start with yourself?

      Quote: Vladimir80
      the state should cover this problem in terms of propaganda/ideology.

      Oh yes, it should, moreover, it does it with enviable regularity...
      1. 0
        27 January 2023 09: 56
        I understand you correctly, you need to start with yourself?

        we must always start with ourselves, because this is the only thing we can fix - to become better ourselves ...
      2. -2
        27 January 2023 20: 55
        We put up price tags in stores and dentistry,

        How do you get people to take care of their teeth?
        we sell real estate for the price of a space shuttle wing,

        How to reduce this cost?
        Until they came up with robots that would build buildings for free.
        we have made life in the countryside almost unbearable,

        By the way, it would be nice if they began to develop mini-cities with a slope of private houses.
      3. +1
        28 January 2023 12: 42
        and because of us it is not easy to find decent medical care even in the city

        And it doesn't exist as such. There are no doctors - and the rest went into paid medicine (not everyone can afford a paid office).
        The so-called "optimization of medicine" carried out by T. Golikova and her accomplice V. Skvortsova turned healthcare into a "health burial".
        And what they failed to "kill" was transferred to paid medicine. Where did the worthy doctors go (I warn you right away - including moderators - all screenshots and photos are taken from open public sources of the network and the Zen resource). As a result:

        Moreover, this so-called. "optimization" affected not only the population of megacities, but also rural areas:


        And the result of this bacchanalia with "optimization":

        I don’t know what Golikova “rubbed” to Putin there, but a fact is a fact. And the pandemic and covid played an important role here.
        Even taking into account the fact that in our country a "demographic failure" occurs every 25-30 years after the Second World War, this is a severe blow to the population.
        ... The topic of medicine is close to me - one of my nieces is a doctor (the second time she works in the Donetsk region - the whole of December there, and after the New Year holidays - again there, until the end of February ... or more ...).
      4. 0
        31 January 2023 12: 02
        Quote: Doccor18
        The family, its very meaning, was purposefully destroyed by the last a hundred years, and now someone is "sincerely" surprised at the demographic decline ...

        For health
        Quote: Doccor18
        more than three decades. Same we raised the "cult of success" to the skies, and who cannot afford an iPhone, Louis Viton and Kruzak - this is "inappropriate" (

        For peace??
        Apparently Putin is to blame for what I have 1970go year of birth, classmates in families had 2 children and extremely rarely 3 ...
        And yes, for some reason I’m sure that in the USSR 10-15 people heard about Louis Vuitton then. No more ... but there were already 2 children en masse and that’s all ...
    4. +7
      27 January 2023 15: 12
      Nonsense. For some reason, the state, since it "takes care" of the population, does not want to take on the maintenance of children (even the minimum wage) or build the economy so that 2 parents can support themselves and 4 children. I have 50 thousand rubles from my salary and 30 from my wife only enough to treat my sores, teeth there, eat, get dressed. Children here do not even fit the minimum wage. 50/3 = 16.67 thousand rubles per person. And here unforeseen other expenses. If you don’t have your own apartment, take a mortgage and don’t refuse anything for the rest. And research in the field of an artificial uterus of the year since 2013 has been covered, not tightly. But the problem of relatively rapid reproduction of the population would be solved. Bioreactors, in which fruits can be placed, develop for 9 months, without consequences for women, for the economy, for the baby.
      1. +6
        27 January 2023 18: 27
        Bioreactors in which fruits can be placed
        And then it will be - "the reactor and I are a friendly family" laughing
    5. 0
      28 January 2023 12: 46
      Great plan! Let's force women to give birth to unloved children and we will be happy! Especially for children!
    6. 0
      2 February 2023 11: 24
      Quote: Vladimir80
      our longing for comfortable selfishness

      And what's wrong with that? This is a natural and normal desire for a person, actually.
  3. -3
    27 January 2023 05: 51
    The tax on childlessness in the USSR was the so-called "tax on eggs", and, in my opinion, this is normal. Why not enter? Say, for a category of citizens of a certain age, from 22 to 40-45? And the budget is good, and people, although not all, will begin to think about offspring.
    In general, I do not understand the conscious rejection of children. If only because it is one of the cycles of life, laid down by nature. Born, raised, should have a child. Why go against the essence of human existence? After all, this is the main legacy of everyone.
    A great scientist has made a discovery. The writer wrote the book. The builder built the house, and so on. But everyone refused to procreate, and? .. Who will need all these discoveries, houses, a book, if there is no one left? ..
    1. +5
      27 January 2023 06: 52
      Yes, a modern person is ready to live his whole life in an embrace with a smartphone - upload photos, watch videos, order goods ... The world of illusions invented by globalists is almost a matrix ... And when he gets old and gets sick, they will offer him a pill so as not to suffer for a long time and turn off the light .
      1. -2
        28 January 2023 12: 51
        Man has free will. He chooses what to do. No need to blame others - some fictitious "globalists" and other nonsense.
        1. -2
          28 January 2023 13: 05
          Quote: Skeptik3
          Man has free will. He chooses what to do

          Being determines consciousness. Who said don't you remember? wink
    2. +8
      27 January 2023 08: 47
      here many people love us - to force, punish, not let go .. here it works everywhere, but it DOES NOT WORK with children! you won’t force you to have a child - if they don’t want to have one, if you could, there would already be 5 children in families .. therefore, your proposal is just an additional fee from the population in the end there will be .. and children to have, a completely different approach needed in Russia.. for example, they began to give payments and - lo and behold .. many began to give birth .. without punitive measures, can you imagine?
    3. +6
      27 January 2023 09: 49
      Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
      And I think it's ok...


      Excuse me, but what's normal? It is impossible to force a person to have a child, he can be stimulated (financially, by social programs, etc.), but using fines and punitive measures is already the end, if you follow this path, you can generally go beyond ...

      Let's imagine the situation, in 2100, Russia - the government obliged citizens to have 5 children, in case of non-compliance, sending them to a correctional colony, with deprivation of rights (substitute the necessary one) according to law No. ... (yes, this is fantastic, for now ..)

      But everything starts with trifles, some concepts are blurred, laws are added, the population is being prepared, and what was impossible yesterday is already quite normal today. And what will we get as a result? An authoritarian state - which exists not in the interests of citizens, but in the interests of some kind of ruling elite or one leader .... do you need such a future? I definitely don't.

      Therefore, citizens need to be stimulated, helped, interested, etc. but not to fine and punish because the result will be different ... the last youth will leave the country (to Kazakhstan, Turkey and other countries) and only old people will remain.
      1. +2
        27 January 2023 14: 26
        "Excuse me, but what's normal? You can't force a person to have a child, you can stimulate him (financially, social programs, etc."
        when we got married, we did not think about social programs or financial incentives, we just knew that there should be children in the family if it is a family, and not a free fuck. and, by the way, in the USSR they also did not care much about the birth rate, but, nevertheless, it was. and not in the villages of Dagestan and Chechnya and gypsy camps, as now, but throughout the country
        1. +3
          27 January 2023 18: 30
          yes, everything was like that .. in the USSR with a socialist way of life, you really could not worry about it .. but which is no longer there .. therefore, his experience - for another country - the capitalist RF - is not applicable in any way .. otherwise let's remember that in tsarist Russia 8 children each is the norm .. and how does this apply now?
        2. 0
          2 February 2023 11: 23
          Quote: aglet
          in the USSR, too, they did not care much about fertility

          Truth? Didn't care? Yes, what are you?
          Free nurseries, kindergartens. Free education. Preferential (and also free) housing for families with children. Free (not in words, in deeds) hobby groups, sports sections for children, palaces of youth creativity. Preferential summer vacation for children. All this is just the same "state policy to encourage the birth rate", which, according to you, de "did not exist" in the USSR.
    4. 0
      31 January 2023 12: 06
      Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
      Why not enter? Say, for a category of citizens of a certain age, from 22 to 40-45? And the budget is good, and people, although not all, will begin to think about offspring.

      If it is 1000 rubles a month, they won’t have children because it will be cheaper without children, and if it’s 10, then it will be easier for many people to “fall off” ...
  4. +7
    27 January 2023 05: 55
    in the USSR in 1962, the life expectancy of men (68,75) was better than now in the 66,7st century (XNUMX),
    Moreover, they had the same bad habits, smoked, drank alcohol .. smile
    1. +1
      27 January 2023 06: 56
      Alcohol was less accessible if I don’t confuse anything, and the pre-war generation of people was strong (vaccination-free - in the sense that there were only those who could live up to 18 years without modern medicines and other things)
      1. +3
        27 January 2023 14: 30
        "Alcohol was less available if I'm not mistaken"
        it is when? when did Gorbachev introduce all these deficits? vodka, wine, cognac, and even beer could be easily bought throughout the country (well, it was more difficult with beer)
        1. 0
          27 January 2023 14: 48
          March 11, 1985 M.S. Gorbachev becomes General Secretary of the Central Committee of the CPSU. On April 5, 1985, a fateful meeting of the Politburo was held, at which, by a majority vote of its members, "proposals for improving legislation aimed at combating drunkenness" were approved. And already on May 7 of the same year, the famous Decree of the Central Committee of the CPSU "On measures to overcome drunkenness and alcoholism" was issued. On the same day, the Decree of the Council of Ministers of the USSR No. 410 “On measures to overcome drunkenness and alcoholism, to eradicate home brewing” was approved. On May 16, 1985, the Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Council on the same subject is signed. The next day, May 17, all three documents - the Decree of the Central Committee, the Decree of the Council of Ministers and the Decree of the Presidium - were published in the all-Union newspaper Pravda. These documents, drawn up by a commission chaired by M.S. Solomentsev, prescribed:
          1) Reduce the production of all types of alcoholic products,
          2) Reduce the number of points of sale of alcohol and limit the time of its sale from 14 to 19 hours,
          3) To wage a tough fight against moonshine,
          4) Introduce a strict ban on the consumption of alcohol in public places,
          5) To intensify the work of sobering-up stations, medical and labor dispensaries and narcological services.
          Later, during the implementation of the campaign, these measures will gradually be supplemented by an increase in the price of alcohol and the introduction of a card system for its vacation. In addition, during the campaign years, newspapers, magazines and television actively disseminated information about the dangers of alcohol, the dangers of alcoholism, and (to a lesser extent) the benefits of sobriety.
    2. 0
      31 January 2023 12: 08
      Quote: parusnik
      in the USSR in 1962, the life expectancy of men (68,75) was better than now in the 66,7st century (XNUMX),
      Moreover, they had the same bad habits, smoked, drank alcohol .. smile

      These are people of the pre-revolutionary foundation - when out of 10-15 children the strongest survived ...
  5. +9
    27 January 2023 05: 59
    Unfortunately, the economic part is practically not indicated in the article. Here I am 33 years old, and I don’t have a family :(, not because I don’t want to, but because I simply can’t afford it, because I can barely make ends meet. Although by the standards of my city I have a good salary, but for her sake I I work for 12 hours, 5/2. Our valiant optimizers have reduced production so much that it has become quite bad with work in the country. Therefore, employers put so much on all the norms and the Labor Code that you have to rework for the sake of all sorts of useless reports and paperwork, don't you like it? leave! And it turns out such instability in our stable society. I can’t both afford a mortgage and save up for an apartment, and in order to rent a house, I have to give away almost half of the family budget with a girl, and every day we are afraid of losing my job, what can we say about children ...
    1. -4
      28 January 2023 07: 12
      Move to Moscow, St. Petersburg, any millionaire - there is a lot of work for every taste. Look at the schools, who study there, 25% are children of immigrants from SA. If they managed to arrange a normal life, then you will succeed even more.
      1. +1
        28 January 2023 22: 06
        Ahhh, there it is, that is, you consider the situation to be normal, that in order to live with dignity, everyone needs to go to two cities of the country, but if I don’t want to, then what?
    2. -2
      31 January 2023 12: 12
      Quote from turembo
      Here I am 33 years old, and I have no family :(,

      Quote from turembo
      I have to give housing with a girl

      I'm embarrassed to ask - what kind of city is this that you pay 25 for an apartment ????
      And yes - it turns out you live with her for the sake of hooking up, just because you see her 2 times a week (5/12)? What's the point of living together? Isn't it easier to find a cheaper house?
  6. +5
    27 January 2023 06: 00
    As the hero of the film "Kalina Krasnaya" said - "We are here cutting a bootleg from a flea." And Snowden was right when he said that public health suffered a severe crisis. More precisely, squandering. Poor women have lost consultations within easy reach. Evil tongues said that the Soviet government destroyed nationalities. But the nationality was in the passports. And according to these data, you can easily find out what nationality the profit is. I don't believe in a turnaround. Life in small towns has not yet been decided. And this is no less than a tenth of our population.
  7. +35
    27 January 2023 06: 23
    Lord, "passionarity" and other nonsense .. The reasons for the extinction of Russians are simple and known to any reasonable person. This is the lack of work, low wages, lack of prospects and meaning in life, the inability to purchase housing with the incredible luxury of "effective owners" who stole the former Soviet public property.
    Moreover, the Russians, as a people who are the basis of the industrial and scientific development of society in the USSR, which have gone beyond the clan-tribal society and cause the greatest hatred among the new owners (among whom you will not find Russians in the daytime with fire) suffer from this to the greatest extent. Cause of extinction oligarchic-mafia capitalism finally established in the Russian Federation in 1993. The same regime of Yeltsin-Putin with "constructive proposals" to which the author refers.
    Let me remind you that back in 1987 (the beginning of market reforms), the natural increase in the population of the RSFSR was 968 thousand people. and already in 1993 the population was dying out at a rate of 750 thousand people.
    The prerequisites for solving this problem are also clear - the elimination of this mafia capitalist regime and the restoration of public ownership of the means of production.
    But the author will never say this obvious thing, he would rather talk about "passionarity" and hypocritically sigh looking at the disposal of Russians and their planned replacement with cheaper and more obedient Uzbeks and Tajiks.
    1. +5
      27 January 2023 06: 59
      Well, the mythical "Russians" began to decline back in the late Brezhnev period, among my classmates in the 80s (in the city, of course) there were no those who had three children in the family, half had brothers / sisters, half did not.
    2. +5
      27 January 2023 08: 06
      Lord, "passionarity" and other nonsense .. The reasons for the extinction of Russians are simple and known to any reasonable person.

      +++++++++++++++++
    3. AB
      +9
      27 January 2023 09: 58
      Your comment on the semantic content blocked the entire article. Bravo!)
    4. +6
      27 January 2023 12: 04
      lack of work, low salary, lack of prospects and meaning in life, inability to buy housing
      Why don't Norwegians, English women and other Belgians want to give birth then?
      1. 0
        27 January 2023 14: 36
        "Why don't Norwegians, English women and other Belgians want to give birth then?"
        absolutely (vegetable). I only care why we don't give birth
      2. +5
        27 January 2023 22: 14
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        Why don't Norwegians, English women and other Belgians want to give birth then?

        The low birth rate in Europe is especially characteristic of their "middle class" (the rich give birth there a lot), this is a consequence of their worldview - Western individualism taken to its logical limit, and social structure - a consumer society where Western elites benefit from limiting the birth rate and population.
        Does it have anything to do with us? Yes, it has. The countries of peripheral capitalism (third world), which include the Russian Federation, import not only industrial goods and technologies from the West, but also their ideology, mass and behavioral culture. This was known for a very long time, K. Marx figuratively described it as idolaters languishing from the diseases of Christianity. But for us, the problem of "consumer society" is of secondary importance. The main thing is material problems, and then this and other factors.
        And most importantly, this problem is also a reflection and consequence of the social structure that has been established in the Russian Federation
        1. -5
          28 January 2023 07: 19
          The main thing is that the mythical "Russians" from the people of warriors, scientists and discoverers - have become a people of whiners, traders and infantiles. Half yearn for Marxism-Leninism (whose failure was proven in 1991), half dream of a golden calf that local "thieves" and those who settled in the "west" have.
    5. +6
      27 January 2023 14: 33
      "Let me remind you that back in 1987 (the beginning of market reforms), the natural increase in the population of the RSFSR was 968 thousand people"
      when a person has a state-guaranteed tomorrow, there will be everything, including children
      1. 0
        31 January 2023 12: 17
        Quote: aglet
        when a person has a state-guaranteed tomorrow, there will be everything, including children

        1970 and an average of 2 children in the family of my classmates. No more ...
    6. 0
      31 January 2023 12: 16
      Quote: Belisarius
      The reasons for the extinction of Russians are simple and known to any reasonable person. This is the lack of work, low wages, lack of prospects and meaning in life, the inability to purchase housing with the incredible luxury of "effective owners" who stole the former Soviet public property.

      that is, all this was in 1970 when he was born ?????? Wow th ....
      I had classmates had families with 2 children and very few with 3 ..
      And then you laid everything out in such detail on the shelves, especially about the low salary and the lack of prospects in the 1970s ....
      love
  8. +3
    27 January 2023 06: 51
    About Mendeleev - no need! Mendeleev also predicted 500 million for the United States by the end of the 20th century. Moreover, he himself understood the idiocy of the work that officials forced him to do ....
    But in fact, by the end of the century, the population in the USSR was larger than in the USA .... Yes, only the Russian people themselves supported Yeltsin. On Senki and a hat.

    Even today, no one makes such predictions for a hundred years. Zadolbli already Mendeleev .......
    "Passionarity" is also a pseudoscientific invention.

    The thing is that the psychology of the Russian people in relation to the authorities has not changed absolutely in 400 years .... As there was a life-long "Tsar with the boyars" under all regimes, it remained so. And other peoples have gone ahead.

    If the same Muslims see the future of the country through the prospect of the All-Russian Great Kurultai, at which new leaders will be nominated, then the Russians are all delirious: "A new Tsar will come and do everything" ...

    The absolute inability to organize itself for anything other than to plunder something. Therefore, the new state in 1991 appeared as a machine for plundering natural resources.

    By the way, the correct diagnosis of our blessed society was made by Gorbach in 1985: "our natural wealth has corrupted us." Russians are corrupted today like no other nation in the world.
    1. -3
      27 January 2023 07: 31
      Tough of course, but in many ways fair. And we must pay attention that if we are corrupted by laziness and "drunkenness", then the West is corrupted by much worse passions.
      1. +3
        27 January 2023 12: 32
        the West has been corrupted by much worse passions.
        And soon everyone will freeze there without Russian gas Yes .
        1. 0
          28 January 2023 22: 26
          As much as I don't want to, it probably won't happen.
    2. +6
      27 January 2023 13: 29
      our natural wealth has corrupted us

      If they corrupted anyone, it certainly wasn't the general population. We are not cold, not hot from the "national heritage".
  9. +10
    27 January 2023 08: 00
    I don’t understand the author, because almost twenty years ago it was said that Russia is not for Russians. For this, article 282 was introduced. Crushed all patriotic organizations. And now they are openly bringing in guests from the south ...
    1. +3
      27 January 2023 08: 31
      Well, they said and said, but what did the "Russians" themselves do, obey and disperse to countries "where they are welcome"?
  10. +4
    27 January 2023 08: 14
    Terror in Russia during the years of the revolution and the subsequent repressions and purges of the 20s, 30s and 40s claimed the lives of millions of the most passionate representatives of Russians, seriously weakening the gene pool of the ethnos and reducing its passionarity.

    What is the connection between genes (science) and passionarity (hypothesis)?
    In every period of history, the Russian (as well as the French) population has declined in proportion to the population, it can just as well be written that the Mongol invasion, or even the capture of Kyiv in 1204, Moscow in 1381 or burning in 1570, the reforms of Peter, fantastic mortality in the army under Nikolai Pavlovich Palkin, or the famine of the period of the formation of capitalism at the end of the 30th century. significantly reduced the gene pool and "passionaries", as well as "repressions and purges", like the Second World War, only the Russian people have been steadily increasing, but over the past XNUMX years they have been actively decreasing. What is the catch, in genetics or "passionarity"?
    1. +4
      27 January 2023 09: 29
      And the catch is, Eduard, that the Russians have been heaped on the unbearable burden of the "white man" within their own country. Forcing under various pretexts to sacrifice the interests of their nation in the name of others. But, as practice has shown, it is impossible to pull "others" out of the tribal system in a very short historical period. For "pulling out" means a change in the mentality of the "pulled out", and the mentality is such a thing that has been changing for centuries, or even millennia. From the futility of the process, which was given a very short period by historical standards, the Russians were tired and exhausted, trying to be white people, but at the same time remaining slaves to the role assigned to them. Who will give birth! My nation is broken. But the requirement to be a victim still has not been removed from her, and now by law, with the help of criminal articles, she is driving her into this behavioral yoke. Now there will be a tax for childlessness. And who is our little one? Russians!
      1. +4
        27 January 2023 10: 37
        Lyudmila Yakovlevna,
        good day.
        And the catch is, Eduard, that the Russians have been heaped on the unbearable burden of the "white man" within their own country.

        Who "heaped" then, Mikhail Fedorovich, Peter, Lenin or Putin?
        This is a false agenda that hides the correct answer to the question. The problem is that in 1991 they went down a dead end path of development ... and nothing more, until 1990, the Russian people, according to statistics, seriously increased, after, on the contrary. Maybe look for the answer here, and not where it's light. I'm rhetorical, don't take it personally.
        hi
        1. +3
          27 January 2023 11: 51
          Edward, let's go the other way.
          Here people say: there is no need to increase all sorts of fees per person such as excises, taxes, fines for parsley, deadwood, etc., but let's increase all sorts of payments, benefits. That is, handouts from the master's hand. Will this solve the problem?
          No, it won't!
          Because people are already trained. Today there are handouts, but tomorrow they will be canceled under some plausible state pretext, such as "get into position", but children have already been born! What should children be fed in this case?
          And they should be fed by a father who receives an appropriate salary at an enterprise that is guaranteed not to go bankrupt and then, as usual, is closed, as a result of which the father of the family will be thrown out into the street ...
          So how many competitive enterprises have gone bankrupt and closed during the years of Putin's rule (not Yeltsin, mind you!)? About 80 thousand! And this is Rosreestr's data! Across the country, these already dilapidated, destroyed plants and factories without roofs, windows and doors are standing, and the machines and equipment from them have been handed over for scrap. Even in Moscow there are a lot of them! Thousands of destroyed complexes of military units. Hundreds of forested airfields. The dead huge radar systems ...
          There is no number.
          You will say that the Union collapsed, logistics also collapsed, and enterprises cannot exist without subcontractors. But, excuse me, diplomacy then what? Isn't it in order to ultimately save allies from the territories now separated from us? The government's efforts to create related enterprises in Russia - where? And there are none - no diplomacy, no effort! On the other hand, the receipt of subsidies for the enterprise, its subsequent bankruptcy with the departure of the scoundrel, who took subsidies from the state treasury, has flourished and continues to flourish abroad ...
          And, imagine, the working Russian people are a direct participant in these outrages as a victim - a victim whose attempts to prevent the closure of enterprises were severely suppressed, down to criminal methods ...
          Will the Russian people give birth in such an environment? No, it will not!
          1. -2
            28 January 2023 07: 17
            What should children be fed in this case?

            What are poor children fed in Africa? If from the age of 17 they begin to give birth to whole broods, not thinking about apartments or trips to the resort.
          2. 0
            28 January 2023 22: 31
            100500 pluses""""
        2. 0
          31 January 2023 12: 21
          Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
          until 1990, the Russian people, according to statistics, seriously increased, after, on the contrary.

          1) 1970s, no more than 2 children from the parents of my classmates
          2) it was very fashionable to record Serikov Berekkalievich as Sergey Borisovich. And Russians at the same time ...
          Lamb to the passportist and all ..
      2. 0
        28 January 2023 22: 29
        There's not even anything to add good "" "
  11. +4
    27 January 2023 08: 16
    Passionarity, passionarity. But it is not taken out of the blue, it is generally an office term generalization. If life in the country is improving by the forces of power, then here's a rise for you and, like, the rise of this passionarity. And when the institutions of the state are broken or they don’t exist at all, then there’s not up to lofty aspirations in their heads, but one black mass en masse, that’s the loss of passionarity.
  12. +8
    27 January 2023 08: 37
    People are simply tired of being a tool to achieve great things and a breakthrough for some people. In the last century, we, Russia, tried twice to become a great inaccessible country (WWII and the building of communism), and both times it ended very, very badly for the population. The 90s knocked us out. Now people just want to live in their own little world. But someone got it over again.
    1. +1
      27 January 2023 09: 11
      It was clear at the wrong time, but "living in a small world" sounds like a satanic trick. "I just watch videos on YouTube, play tanks and don't touch me, don't bother me" - the height of infantilism.
      1. +7
        27 January 2023 09: 23
        There is no need to exaggerate too much. AND? just go to work, raise kids, be a good father and mother, build something and invent it, what do you call it? Not everyone lives as you described, I wonder who they copied from?
        1. +3
          27 January 2023 09: 38
          It will no longer be possible to raise children in the "small world", because they go to kindergarten, school - and there they already face the real big world. And here it is already important - what they will be told, what educators, teachers, etc. will teach them. And it will not work to "sit out". Many who leave for the "prosperous West" think that all this modern "enlightened" transhumanism and sodomy will not touch them, but this is not so ...
          1. +7
            27 January 2023 10: 24
            School, kindergarten and even work is the small world of ordinary people. Without geopolitical games and cunning plans, muddy agreements and lies to everyone and everything. And about the fact that educators will teach them, do not tell me who will teach? today's educators? with their remuneration and place in society? they will teach in such a way that the most stupid will reject these ideas. Children don't need great teachers, they need good parents.
  13. +6
    27 January 2023 08: 47
    At one time, the great Russian scientist Mendeleev calculated that there should have been about 500 million Russians in the middle of the XNUMXth century.
    Mendeleev is really great, but only in chemistry and metrology. As for his forecast in demographics, his linear extrapolation for the future is a gross mistake. By the way, he also believed that airplanes are a useless circus attraction, and the future belongs to devices lighter than air (balloons, etc.).
    1. 0
      2 February 2023 17: 33
      There was no gross mistake. He simply could not predict that in the 300th century there would be a revolution in Russia, a civil war, mass emigration, repressions, mass deaths from starvation of millions of people, etc., which ultimately destroyed the entire demographic potential. Then another cretin Khrushchev allowed abortions, which in general was the last nail in the coffin. And so, according to the calculations of modern demographers, with normal development, the population only within the (artificial) borders of the Russian Federation would be under 500 million. If you add the so-called. 'Belarus' and 'Ukraine' and Southern Siberia, then it will just turn out ~ XNUMX.
  14. +7
    27 January 2023 09: 14
    Are there many Russians in the Russian government?
    Or is it not possible to talk about it now?
    1. 0
      27 January 2023 09: 16
      . Are there many Russians in the Russian government

      And who is a Russian?
      1. +5
        27 January 2023 09: 24
        Today, Russian is "Lieutenant Kizhe", which everyone has heard of, but no one has seen.
        No wonder they eliminated the column "Nationality" in the passport.
        1. 0
          27 January 2023 09: 32
          and the column in the passport gave nationality? I wonder what was written by Yeltsin, Gorbachev, Gaidar (e.), Chubais, Yakovlev?
          1. 0
            31 January 2023 23: 24
            no, the nationality gave an entry in the birth certificate, which indicated the nationalities of the parents. When obtaining a passport, it was possible to choose a nationality only by one of the parents, and not arbitrarily.
    2. Fat
      -6
      27 January 2023 09: 42
      hi Vlad. Russians are an adjective, not an East Slavic ethnic group. So that in the government - all Russians, even if they are Mordovians, Tatars, French or Jews smile
      So, speak calmly, no one will judge you. lol
      1. +10
        27 January 2023 09: 48
        Quote: Thick
        hi Vlad. Russians are an adjective, not an East Slavic ethnic group. So that in the government - all Russians, even if they are Mordovians, Tatars, French or Jews smile
        So, speak calmly, no one will judge you. lol

        Great Russian Encyclopedia - Russian East Slavic ethnic group. And enough of the Russians to take away their identity. It's me, Chuvash, I'm telling you. Russians have exactly the same rights to their ethnic group as all other peoples of Great Russia.
        1. Fat
          0
          27 January 2023 10: 44
          hi No one takes away identity from Russian Slavs. Just the Russian nation - allows for additional self-identification, as, say, the American nation. And the Great Russian Encyclopedia is the same rubbish as Wikipedia or, for example, Britannica Yes
        2. 0
          28 January 2023 22: 34
          Chuvash or still Chuvash or still still Chāvash? request
  15. +3
    27 January 2023 09: 47
    Given the poor demographics, maybe it's time to introduce benefits for families with two children, and not just three?
    Or maybe not handing out fish, but fishing rods? What are the prospects for young people after school? A sales assistant in a store? Do we have many educational institutions where they teach working specialties? With a guarantee to get a job?
    1. +5
      27 January 2023 11: 36
      Can. You can make a fishing shop with horse prices as we usually do, you can even organize fishing courses. The problem is that there are no free places or there are few of them, and they are not fish, but where you fish, you are a hired worker, and the owner of the fishing place decides how much to leave for you.
  16. AB
    +7
    27 January 2023 09: 49
    Terror in Russia during the years of the revolution and the subsequent repressions and purges of the 20s, 30s and 40s claimed the lives of millions of the most passionate representatives of Russians, seriously weakening the gene pool of the ethnos and reducing its passionarity.


    What the hell!? Like those who wanted to return the Russians under the heel of slavery, direct or hidden, are they passionaries? These words were written in a narcotic delirium. It was directly presented as a pack of bloody Balsheviks looking for those who passionately sacrificed themselves for the sake of others and shot them. Moved grandma across the street? - Shot! Did you help your neighbor fix the fence? - Shot! Do you want to return the monarchy to drive the people back into hellish working conditions? - Not up to you, we need to look for passionaries! A spy who works for Western agents? - Let's deal with passionaries and then we'll deal with you!

    And I didn't even see the moments:
    1. Welfare of people. Now a child is a luxury. Many reasonable people cannot afford it. Health, development of the child requires monstrous money and time. Of course, you can leave everything to chance, but xs what will come of it.
    2. The moral component and the legislation that echoes it. Take a look at the statistics on divorce somehow for the sake of interest. Who initiates divorces. Divorce rate, etc. Now child support is a business for many women. Even books are written about it. And the judicial system is entirely on the side of women. Even a drug addict without a job or a home is likely to retain child rights over a working, housing husband. And at this time when the legislator, trying to blame others for the care of children, comes up with new types of alimony! In general, for the sake of interest, study the materials from MD (though turn on your intellectual and moral filter to the fullest, because many people really get carried away there). Although it must be admitted that the bias of court decisions in favor of women has stabilized a little in recent years and even went back. And what normal, reasonable man would now, when there is no money, take the risk of having children? The search for a suitable spouse for them can take a lifetime. Women also get from gigolos. He gave her children and disappeared, and other women will look at her and argue in the same way - why take the risk?
  17. +6
    27 January 2023 10: 04
    This has been discussed for a long time...
    BUT! remember? "No money but you hold on"

    The authorities report that everything is just fine - for doctors, and for teachers, and for janitors ...
    And in real life on the street, half of the people do not spat in Russian. Every hundredth is infected with HIV. The crown is rising
    There are few doctors. Queues. There are no infectious diseases. there are no specialists - you have to go somewhere "there" to them
    Everything is optimized.
    Everyone recognizes the outflow of Russians over the hill. They only argue about numbers, and that "1 Central Asians with a higher education entered for the 3st Russian who left with a higher education" (non-verbatim)

    Who calls the full name and the facts, and the amount of the guilty - sits.
    Who calls abstractly - he can't do anything.
    Everyone understands everything ...
    1. -1
      27 January 2023 10: 47
      Who calls the full name and the facts, and the amount of the guilty - sits.

      who is sitting, "the color of the nation" Alexei Anatolyevich N.?
  18. +9
    27 January 2023 10: 13
    Dear author, start with yourself: how many children do you have?
    I was born in 1971, and my children remained in the "demographic hole of the 90s." That is, my generation sacrificed its future so that our younger brothers and sisters would survive. We will soon retire, and our childlessness will be reproached to us to the very grave. I remember how girls in the early 90s wrote in their school essays "I want to become a currency prostitute." There were attempts to create a family.
    The most important thing - gentlemen, are you sure that your children will live better than you in _THIS COUNTRY_?
    Let's look at our official ideology - getting rich at ANY cost, and who is considered successful? That's right, the richest. We have a large stratification, 1% of the rich, the "middle class" 15-17%, the rest is just poverty. How to feed a family with a salary of 20 (in Moscow 000)? But the birth of a child means that three will live on one salary. This is if the child is the first, and if the second and even the third are campaigning here, then five or six of them for one salary. Question: how many percent of the population earns so much that they alone can normally provide for a family of 35-000 people? That's it, first make a cut-off for income, that is, how many percent can feed a family, at least according to official data, and only then campaign for the birth of children.
    Yes, they tell us from the high stands - there is no money - look for a second, third job. That is, it is proposed to work 50-60 hours a week with one day off. These are official recommendations.
    In the bottom line - until we force the business to pay a normal salary and not raise prices, we will have nothing.
    Lots of divorces. According to official data, 20% of marriages end in divorce, and if you add civil marriages, that is, cohabitation without official registration, then 30% is at least.
    Z.Y. You can attribute it to male chauvinism, but according to a sociological survey, 95% of women aged 16 and up ... <no upper limit> dreams of marrying a young, smart, handsome, rich, at least promising man. Those in our society are less than 1%.
    1. +1
      28 January 2023 22: 42
      And do not forget that working 50-60 hours a week with the appropriate amount of stress at the same time, especially with our "medicine" (hello Madame Arbigolikova), you can easily leave where you never return.
  19. 0
    27 January 2023 10: 13
    He works to death
    Drink half to death!
  20. +9
    27 January 2023 11: 29
    You forget that people don't have children not only because they simply don't want to, but also because they "can't". The rapidly deteriorating ecology, stress (yes, the availability of information leads to such consequences), computerization (a sedentary lifestyle), as well as an unhealthy lifestyle and other GMOs.
    I did not conduct an analysis and statistical research, but according to my feelings, more than half of my acquaintances either did IVF or underwent expensive treatment - and not everyone succeeded (my wife and I, unfortunately, are among those who did not succeed) ...
  21. +8
    27 January 2023 11: 46
    The birth rate directly depends on the strength of individualistic values ​​in society. If they are strong, the birth rate will fall - at least give everyone a room. They will wait for each apartment in the end. Where is the high birth rate? In a society where communal values ​​are strong, as an option - clan values. The trend towards unification, commonality is important. Without him, an extra family member is just a burden.
    As long as the liberal ideology is strong in the country, as a priori individualistic, the birth rate cannot be raised by any preferences.
    1. -1
      31 January 2023 23: 34
      Where is the high birth rate? In a society where communal values ​​are strong, as an option - clan values.

      The United States, for example, has a traditionally high birth rate.
      And in Europe it has greatly decreased, although the conditions seem to be comparable.
  22. +3
    27 January 2023 13: 53
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    Passionarity is directly related to the ultra-urbanization of the population in large cities.


    And where does the notorious passionarity? It does not manifest itself in a high birth rate at all and does not depend on urbanization.
  23. +1
    27 January 2023 13: 55
    Quote: kor1vet1974
    Or maybe not handing out fish, but fishing rods? What are the prospects for young people after school? A sales assistant in a store? Do we have many educational institutions where they teach working specialties? With a guarantee to get a job?


    In order for such guarantees to appear, it is necessary to create jobs in abundance.
    "Who do?"
  24. +3
    27 January 2023 14: 03
    Quote: depressant
    From the futility of the process, which was given a very short period by historical standards, the Russians were tired and exhausted, trying to be white people, but at the same time remaining slaves to the role assigned to them.


    Poor things. Under the tsars-priests, who did not suffer from such "progressiveness", the Russians rested to their heart's content and did not tear their veins.
    As for the "fruitlessness of the process" - one can argue. If we compare how some Siberian peoples (the Buryats, for example) lived 100 years ago, how living conditions, everyday culture, and the level of education have changed, then the difference is very significant.
    The notorious mentality is not a constant value, and the mentality is a derivative of living conditions and also depends on upbringing. The rate of its change is proportional to the rate of change in the conditions of existence.
    1. +1
      28 January 2023 05: 13
      [quote=Illanatol....
      The notorious mentality is not a constant value, and the mentality is a derivative of living conditions and also depends on upbringing. The rate of its change is proportional to the rate of change in the conditions of existence. [/ Quote]
      That's for sure! The mentality is different and "proportional". The Jews had a good master, the Russians had a bad one .....
  25. BAI
    +2
    27 January 2023 16: 09
    944 people died from diseases of the circulatory system,

    from cancer -
    The number of deaths from neoplasms in 2020 amounted to 289,9 thousand people

    As in the song - And the diagnosis is made like this:
    Survived from the light of his cancer
  26. +2
    27 January 2023 16: 12
    the share of GDP for healthcare should be increased to 6,5%”,

    - the academician is sure.


    Those. to leave paid medicine without profit? "ER" pursues the opposite policy - paid medicine and profit at any cost. The fact that the population will be sick and die out is of no particular concern to anyone in power.
  27. +4
    27 January 2023 19: 03
    While the prospects are not visible to the Russian people, for the most part they will not give birth. Even if they give money, then even then the birth rate will increase only slightly, as it did 10 years ago. Yes, and sellers will simply raise prices and that money will turn into a penny. What about housing? Mortgage about anything, especially will not give birth. Yes, a lot of things .. In general, such a system turned out that under it the Russians are dying out. Passionarity .. yeah. A good excuse is neither to refute nor to confirm, but things are still there.
  28. +1
    27 January 2023 21: 57
    Now we should introduce a tax on childlessness, and then explain to the child that he is not the fruit of love, but of mercantile intent, and not even the most reasonable one - the cost of providing will obviously be more than any fines, and these restrictions look disgusting.

    I would like to have children not because "it happened" or because they said "to give birth and that's it" from above, but predictably - to be confident in their income, in the ability of the family to provide for all its members.

    I grew up in poverty, where the example of my father's industriousness allowed me to have what I want - and I remember what it was like - to dig out rusty railroad tracks from under the demolished barracks where my grandmother used to live in order to turn them in for metal and at least some income have.

    Do I want such a fate for my children, when there is not very much support from the state, with which it is now so "convenient" to predict the possibility of providing for a family?
    No.
    1. 0
      28 January 2023 05: 30
      This is right!

      And I, too, for all the good against all the bad. What a coincidence, who would have guessed...

      But one thing is not clear: what the hell was it to recognize and support 30 years of politicians who canceled all these Soviet guarantees of "confidence in the future"?

      These politicians are a grouping, and the people are one hundred million. This turns out not to be the history of the people, but Chukovsky's children's fairy tale "Cockroach" ....

      How much I live, I just don’t understand what .... eklmn .... is going on in people’s heads? No wonder the poet said that "the mind can not understand" ....

      One hope for a favorable outcome of History: when all half-fools die, they will not be able to interfere with normal life. Natural selection. After all, it is not so everywhere, but only in the richest country in the world!
      1. +1
        29 January 2023 22: 56
        Regarding "choose and support."

        Of my own free will, I did not express any support for the current government; when I was a student, I was sent to the elections with the order "vote or get out of the hostel and fail in physical education," with the same message to rallies and festivities on the occasion of the Crimea. And there are millions of such cases.

        Here it is "popular support", which is so clearly visible on the TV and in the reports.
  29. +1
    28 January 2023 09: 43
    To increase the birth rate, it is necessary that the government of the country takes care of its citizens, and not of its pockets. Here is the whole secret. good fellow
    1. 0
      28 January 2023 13: 02
      Very primitive (like TV propaganda), when were such periods in the history of Russia? And what about Western countries, do they really care about their citizens? wink
  30. -3
    28 January 2023 13: 02
    Have you spoken? Well done!
    And now everyone together opened the Wikipedia article "Demographic Transition" and read it from beginning to end!
    Before discussing a topic, it can be very useful to get at least basic knowledge about the issue under discussion.
  31. +3
    28 January 2023 13: 42
    What is the reality today? According to the draft federal budget for 2023 and for the planning period of 2024 and 2025. the share of health spending in the structure of GDP will continue to decline,

    ...And it's not funny, Anna. Here is what the famous pediatrician Leonid Roshal says about this:



    And about this so-called. "optimization" and re-profiling of departments in connection with covid is best said by the suicide note of one "grandma", left by relatives from complete hopelessness:

  32. +2
    29 January 2023 08: 34
    The institution of the family has been destroyed, living conditions in cities (where 70% of the population has gathered) are not favorable for a large family, people do not have housing - if the housing problem is resolved for the population, then through a mortgage, for which people work all the best years. Kindergartens, schools, children's clinics ... look at them. Yes, ideal conditions have been created in our country for the extinction of a nation. IMHO, I see this as deliberate sabotage with the consent of the authorities, both past and present. All the chatter on TV no longer impresses anyone, the youth in the mass definitely decided not to burden themselves with children so as not to survive later.
  33. -1
    29 January 2023 12: 44
    The author is an optimist. Most likely, 70 - 80 million are left, and if we take into account the "vicissitudes" of our existence, then, I think, the order of the Anglo-Saxons for 30-40s - 40-50 million is being regularly fulfilled to service the "gas stations"
  34. +2
    29 January 2023 16: 39
    The question here is not the passionarity of the people for sure. I'll start with the obvious, but 1/3 of our people live, or rather exist and die in the countryside, where there is no bright future, you can look at the present even from afar from the TV screen or when you come to relatives you immediately want to drink heavily so as not to It was so painful to face reality. I will say wildly banal Russia is not three cities in the face of Moscow, St. Petersburg and Yekaterinburg ... Russia is rather all those who are outside these relatively comfortable cities.
    It is worth driving away from the same Yekaterinburg in any direction for 20-30 km and already poverty, but at 100-150 it does seem that there are simply mass graveyards and rickety wooden houses and in some places the remains of some former highly developed civilization that survived that something like nuclear war...
    What can be done easily and without money by the authorities:
    1. To honestly tell the people that 95% of them will never live well and that, at best, everything will only get worse over time - health, problems. And yes, their success is largely a matter of a rare case. Therefore, do not expect that you will live better and well, you will only live worse. And yes, the state, it is the state, does not need these 95%, except that when it presses and it will be necessary to die, then they will remember you and remind you of your civic duty. To forget again later. Therefore, rely only on yourself and beware of the state - they will try in every possible way to deceive and rob you. Miracles won't happen, guaranteed.
    2. If someone wants to get into the 5% of successful ones, then the places are already taken and there is a chance if you become very high-class professionals.
    If without sarcasm, then it’s really important that the state could give the people through the media without significant costs:
    A) Worthy goals for a person and examples of the life of prominent people
    B) Techniques that work - how to create happy relationships with yourself and other people for children and adults.
    Only not slogans, but technologies according to paragraph A and paragraph B, repeating which everyone could set such goals and systematically achieve them.
    In addition to subjectively idealistic, although the pieces according to paragraph 2 are extremely important, of course, a material basis is needed:
    Solving the housing issue and guaranteed work with an income that allows you to support a large family.
  35. +1
    30 January 2023 16: 01
    In an inherited estate society, with a personnel policy on the verge of idiocy, based on nepotism, personal devotion, lies and crime, where the principles of “we don’t give up our own” and mutual responsibility rule the show in relations, and the main criterion for evaluating activity, spiritual and material, is not professional - business qualities, personal achievements, but loot and personal connections, this is impossible. It is impossible for our (long gone) "effective managers" to admit their mistakes, tb. when professional incompetence, intellectual level, creative and initiative impotence do not allow them to be realized, and so on. promptly correct, the lower class, the serfs will not appreciate and begin to ask questions, they will suddenly start to think, although our boyars have long since built a "vertical", as it seems to them eternal, do not care about the opinion of the people, and the country, they have their problems, the mob does not understand.
    As a layman with a normal Soviet education, I really would not want to, tb. in such conditions that the people themselves, and God forbid, provoked from outside, suddenly began to solve their own and the country's problems, we have already gone through this, it may end in failure. I would very much like these changes in social policy, primarily the system of EDUCATION and education, the nationalization of state administration were carried out "from above" in the form of gradual reforms, inadequacy of personnel policy, the created management system is inadequate and archaic, etc. . all their conscious working life they were engaged in "embedding" in the Anglo-Saxon world, organizing the plunder of their country, at the expense of whose resources, solving absolutely all the problems of overseas "partners", enriching them and pulling them out of crises. So why all of a sudden, in old age, when psychology and thinking have "ossified and turned into a monolith," when the intellect is already fading away, they suddenly become worried about the situation of their country, and so on. people whom they despised all their lives and did not consider their own, in no way linking their future with this territory, i.b. when the head is filled with thoughts of "gout" and the desire for warm slippers in an armchair by the fireplace surrounded by grandchildren or with a book.
    A thorough analysis and public condemnation of the criminals who betrayed and destroyed the state are needed, the so-called. statesmen of the 90s, by chance, seized power through betrayal, lies and crime, who organized a total plunder of the country's resources unprecedented in the history of civilization. While in power, especially the banking and economic sector, there are still people who killed and betrayed the state and organized "flows" from the country, blocking its development, destroying the former social formation and building a class society, creating a system of irremovability of power, who continue to sleep softly and eat sweetly , it is difficult to expect positive and cardinal changes, and hence any progress.

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