“The rise in prices for weapons from the United States begins due to the conflict in Ukraine”: Jordan bought F-16 fighters at the price of F-35

Jordan and the United States have entered into an agreement providing for the supply of 12 F-16C / D fighters of the Block 70 modification for $ 4,21 billion, according to the government publication Petra. The US State Department back in February 2022 approved this deal, allowing the delivery of aircraft.

Anti-radar capabilities of Block 70 could theoretically be useful if Jordan needs to intervene in Syria again

- considers the American columnist Ryan Bol, evaluating the new acquisition.

However, the main attention of the media is riveted to the value of the transaction.

The F-16 Block 70 is one of the best single-engine aircraft on the market, with probably one of the best radars in the world, but the cost of buying each aircraft in the case of this contract ($350 million per unit) seems excessive

- indicated in the publication MENA Defense.

For example, Lockheed Martin is selling its F-35 to the US Air Force for $98,22 million in line with the 2022 US budget. In the case of exports requiring "special upgrades" and additional contracts for parts, repairs and training, the price of the F-35 rises sharply. For Germany, it amounted to $325 million per aircraft.

Jordanian contract could mark the beginning of a rise in prices for US weapons, given the increase in market demand due to the conflict in Ukraine

- believe in the publication.

For our part, we note that there was no "boom" in orders for American fighters, and this cannot explain the increase in prices for them. It seems that the main reason for the rise in price of aircraft from the United States is the displacement of Russian analogues from the world market due to the sanctions policy.

Other fighter-producing countries - France and Sweden - can hardly be called competitors, since after the start of the CBO they demonstrated complete subordination to Washington and, at its request, will refuse any customer. At the same time, many states cannot afford to purchase Chinese products if they do not want to incur the wrath of the United States. As a result, the United States turned out to be a virtual monopoly in that part of the world that unconditionally supports the West.

Comments

[Asad]

How can you judge the cost if you don’t know what equipment and weapons are supplied.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: ASAD

How can you judge the cost if you don’t know what equipment and weapons are supplied.

All "maintenance" - maintenance maintenance, upkeep maintenance, conservation operation, maintenance, maintenance, maintenance, care and maintenance - will all be done by the Americans and only them.

[Fisherman]

the Jordanians pay for the "roof", for this reason you can buy a helicopter at the price of the "Death Star"

[TermNachTer]

Even if it is not known what is included in the delivery, 350 lyam for a plane of the 70s of the last century is nonsense. Or cutting the Jordanian budget. However, no one doubted that the prices for weapons would be "trampled" upwards with terrible force, mainly for mattresses. As a matter of fact, all for the sake of it also was started. The economy of Geiropa will die, and mattress covers will be in profit.

[donavi49]

There, only the glider remained from the plane. New AFAR radar, new systems, avionics close to the 5th generation, engine with a record resource (x3 from RD-33MK), new ASP.


The first contract for Viper Bahrain in 17 was 19 Lockheed Martin F-16V fighters (apparently new construction), the estimated cost of delivery is $ 2,785 billion.

Slovakia - 14 machines for 1,6 billion euros cold and 2,91 full (with a training center and ASP). Contract 2018.

Morocco - The cost of supplying Morocco with 25 new F-16V Block 72 fighters will be $3,787 billion. 19 year contract.

[Johnson Smithson]

record resource engine (x3 from RD-33MK),

the engines there are just old 1992, General Electric F110-GE-129

[And Us Rat]

Quote from Johnson Smithson

the engines there are just old 1992, General Electric F110-GE-129

Not true. Since 2003, the upgraded F60, versions F70-GE-110, have been installed on the Block 110 \ 132.
For comparison, the Su-30SM, which performs similar combat missions (a fighter with a bias towards working on the ground), flies the AL-31FP, which is also an upgraded version of the AL-31F developed in the late 1970s.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: donavi49

There, only the glider remained from the plane.

Rather, it's just the appearance. The glider has already been reworked, modernized, strengthened, lightened several times, the materials have been changed.
It differs from the original, like the Su-35 from the Su-27 built during the USSR.

[2 Level Advisor]

according to your logic, the Su-35 is an aircraft from 1977 .. look at how block 70 differs from the first F-16 and you will understand that they differ no less than the Su-27 and Su-35 .. and as for the price, I agree - the Americans on all sides of the CBO in big pluses ..

[And Us Rat]

Quote: ASAD

How can you judge the cost if you don’t know what equipment and weapons are supplied.

Absolutely right, judging by the unit price, it includes a couple of spare parts kits, including engines and avionics, ongoing maintenance and overhaul for 10-15 years, a full set of weapons and body kits, pilot training and simulators.
This is a fairly common type of contract in the last couple of decades, the customer gets rid of the headache of maintenance, and the supplier guarantees that the maintenance contract will not go "to the left", the same Israel.
Israel has a complete and licensed process chain for the repair, maintenance and modernization of the F-16, and has already completed aircraft maintenance orders for Jordan (Bell AH-1 Cobra helicopters). The Yankees cannot revoke the license, which they themselves issued, without lawsuits. A ban for security reasons also cannot be imposed, for lack of a reason - after all, they themselves sold the equipment.
So they closed the loophole, everything is logical.

[Zaurbek]

The latest modifications of the F16, F15 and Rafal, and even Grippen, completely go beyond $ 100 million and are catching up with the F35A. It’s just that F35 is not sold to everyone and F15 too. And you need to know under what contracts the equipment leaves. Israel and Egypt each receive $3 billion a year for armaments. And buy equipment. Jordan is not a rich country, you need to know if there are US subsidies to the country or not.

[Heel]

Jordan receives about one and a half billion annually for the same purposes

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Zaurbek

Jordan is not a rich country, you need to know if there are US subsidies to the country or not.

There are of course. Financial assistance of about $1.5 billion per year + a credit line of about $2 billion per year + gratuitous deliveries of some types of used military equipment decommissioned from the US Army.

[SKVichyakow]

So the result of what the United States did was not long in coming. You can only applaud them. Europe is in decline, on the brink of war, and the United States is profitable, and does not include itself in any way.

[Victorovich]

Yes that's for sure.
The Angol-Saxons honed their skills for a long time, probably 500 or 600 years.
Islanders suck.
Here it is the policy of the core state in action - pushing everyone's foreheads together, and themselves on the sidelines, because the enemy is all somewhere beyond the seas. and do not openly participate in conflicts.
And the Anglo-Saxons also came up with peace conferences .. to stir up everyone and constantly get goodies for themselves from any conflict.

[alexey_444]

On the one hand, the rise in prices is good, Africa will calm down, there is nothing to fight with, everyone sold Soviet weapons to anyone who is not too lazy, now it has ended in Ukraine, but go and buy a new one. But with Jordan and the like it is not so expensive. With one hand, the Americans provide military assistance, with the other they take away contracts, the Jews in one word.

[evgen1221]

The Soviet will end, they will switch to Chinese, Indian, Pakistani, there are no problems.

[donavi49]

China's military-industrial complex is already looking forward to a sweet big piece of the pie in the arms market. For the share of ROE will collapse sharply for objective reasons - the transfer of output to the needs of the army, as well as the toxicity of contracts, for which sanctions will be added weight.

China, with its proposals, enters just into the vacant niche. Now the Thunder has also begun to actively promote the J-10.

[rotmistr60]

mark the beginning of a rise in prices for American weapons, given the increase in market demand due to the conflict in Ukraine

Here is another plus for the US military-industrial complex from the conflict - the rise in prices for weapons. Through the efforts of the Americans, Europe is gradually getting rid of obsolete types of weapons in favor of Ukraine and will be forced to buy new ones from the United States, but very expensive ones. The EU's dependence on the US is only growing. Gas is expensive, weapons are expensive, because of the rejection of Russian resources, the cost of European goods is growing and they are becoming uncompetitive...Who is the war, and who is the profit.

[donavi49]

The most expensive thing now is the fleet and aviation. How many F-16s / Rafales / Mirages / Tornadoes / Eurofighters / Tigers / Apaches have Europe lost?

Let's go even further, but how many types of weapons did Europe lose in general, which were not just listed on the balance sheet? Here, let's do it for you:
6+8+14 - PZ2000
12 - Archers
18+19 - Caesars
30 AC90
about 20-30 Crabs
6+2+5+2 - М270
50 CB90
14 Challengers
Krotali-NG
SAMP-T - which has not yet been transferred
2 batteries (3 from the USA) - PAK3 which have not yet been transferred
10 Stormers

And that's it. The rest or M113 - which, when compared with the balance, give very little. For only Europe could transfer 300 M113s and their clones monthly, and not in 11 months. T-72 - which were either on the balance sheet, or were under replacement. Marders that are withdrawn from active forces. BMPs - which, again, are either withdrawn, or awaiting replacement. (In the same Czech Republic / Slovakia on SV90 - contracts are signed, for example). Miscellaneous art from the storerooms. Hoki and Aspids from the storerooms. Well, or PLANT, that is, a new production like Iris, Nasams, Suzanne, DanaM2, etc.

The only place where there is a real shortage is shells and missiles. Here, yes, they rake out everything that is possible and impossible.

[kor1vet1974]

As a result, the United States turned out to be a virtual monopoly in that part of the world that unconditionally supports the West.

I don’t remember that that part of the world that supported and supports the West would especially buy Soviet weapons, then Russian ..

[tihonmarine]

Jordanian contract could mark the beginning of a rise in US arms prices

And who would doubt it, when global wars begin, weapons and ammunition are many times more expensive.
The First World War became manna from heaven for the USA, (especially for its military-industrial complex) The Second World War became a golden rain for the USA. Now America will get richer than ever, when all 50 countries will buy only American weapons and F-16C/D modifications of the Block 70 for $4,21 billion. This is just the beginning, in a year it will cost $10,21 billion.

[rocket757]

“The rise in prices for weapons from the United States begins due to the conflict in Ukraine”: Jordan bought F-16 fighters at the price of F-35

. The military-industrial complex minke whales in full chocolate will be, besides, they all led, they did.

[The popuas]

[in the case of this contract ($350 million per unit) seems excessive]....inflation gentlemen...what did you want!?

[Zaurbek]

You need to know the conditions .... often there is service for how many years is included.

[Sergey_52]

In conditions where it is not clear what will happen in six months - every year of maintenance, this is a profit for the seller ...

[nazgul-ishe]

It was originally planned - to grind the remaining SOVIET equipment from NATO assistants in order to suck in their own. Just business.

[sanik2020]

It seems that the main reason for the rise in price of aircraft from the United States is the displacement of Russian analogues from the world market due to the sanctions policy.

And this is one of the reasons why Russia must show the complete superiority of its weapons over NATO in the NWO.
The task is not simple, but doable, the main thing is to do everything calmly but persistently and without showing off.

[Stirbjorn]

Other countries that produce fighters - France and Sweden - can hardly be called competitors, since after the start of the NWO they demonstrated complete subordination to Washington and, at its request, will refuse any customer.

Very debatable. Rafali has gone on a rampage lately, and no one refuses. This customer himself can refuse at the request of the United States, as the Australians threw France into the construction of submarines

[solar]

The price of the contract and the price of the aircraft are completely different things. The contract usually provides for a supply of weapons, spare parts, engines, and even maintenance for a certain period. It has little to do with the price of a clean aircraft; these are incomparable things if it is not known what the contract provides.

[michael2000]

Q.E.D. Americans have everything just like that except money.

[digger]

Lohi-slave obediently undress to the skin. The owner, laughing, breeds suckers-claps to the fullest.

[AC130 Gunship]

What kind of dregs they don’t write .... how can you compare oranges with irons? The F35 has an operating cost for 30 years and the cost of 1 hour of flight is 8-10 times higher than that of the F16

[Fizik13]

It’s interesting that I bought Navier or old rubbish from the storerooms of the mustache.

[SkyMaXX]

Still, how beautiful the F-16C single-seat fighter is, just as ugly is the double F-16D, especially if it hangs conformal tanks.
Training is one thing, and special combat ones are another.
Initially, the F-16 was a light fighter, which for some reason was overweight and turned out to be a lame duck.
Our two-seater MiG-29 is also resting.