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Graduate of the Academy of the General Staff: the performance of the RF Armed Forces during the NMD in terms of the rate of destruction of enemy equipment surpasses even the times of the Second World War

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Graduate of the Academy of the General Staff: the performance of the RF Armed Forces during the NMD in terms of the rate of destruction of enemy equipment surpasses even the times of the Second World War

The Russian army in less than a year, during a special operation in Ukraine, destroyed enemy forces that exceeded the entire NATO grouping in Europe. This is reported by military correspondent Alexander Sladkov with reference to his friend, a graduate of the Academy of the General Staff.


Sweet said referring to his friend, he writes from his words that during the special operation in Ukraine, 372 aircraft of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were shot down, which, like the destroyed 200 enemy helicopters, constitutes a full-fledged air army. Also, the forces of the RF Armed Forces have already destroyed 7537 Ukrainian tanks and AFVs (more, of course, AFVs - excluding tanks) - an amount sufficient for two tank and five combined arms armies. 983 destroyed MLRS - this is a full-fledged shock army, 401 air defense systems - an amount sufficient for an air defense army. 3841 destroyed guns make up four artillery armies, and 8066 vehicles would be enough to fully equip eight full-fledged armies.

In total, according to the military correspondent, Russia destroyed twenty-three enemy armies in less than a year, a number sufficient to form four fronts. This is the number of four Wehrmacht army groups or the entire currently existing NATO force grouping in Europe.

These forces were destroyed without millions of losses on the part of the RF Armed Forces.

It is emphasized that the effectiveness of the Russian army in the course of a special operation in Ukraine exceeds the times of the Second World War and other wars. The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation would long ago have defeated the army of any state that would not have been fully supported by the entire collective West and its allies.

For our part, it is still worth making a remark: the data on the amount of destroyed military equipment, apparently, are the official statistics of the Ministry of Defense. It is often difficult to verify the accuracy of these data. But even if we assume that there is an "error" in the direction of a certain exaggeration, then in any case, the Russian troops destroyed so much military equipment that it would be enough for several full-fledged armies. This is to the question of how demilitarization proceeds during the NWO.
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  1. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 23 January 2023 15: 54
    +24
    "in less than a year, destroyed twenty-three enemy armies," ///
    ---
    These are calculations based on Konashenkov's figures.
    Definitely number one in the world...
    1. Machito
      Machito 23 January 2023 16: 03
      +23
      Write more.
      Why pity them, bastard? (FROM)
      1. Orange Bigg
        Orange Bigg 23 January 2023 16: 06
        +11
        Quote: Bearded
        Write more.
        Why pity them, bastard? (FROM)


        Believe it or not. But modern weapons are orders of magnitude more long-range, more accurate, more effective and deadly than what was during WWII. So there is nothing to be surprised at. It is only ignorant people who can say "write more" who do not understand themselves what they are talking about.
        1. fa2998
          fa2998 23 January 2023 17: 56
          +10
          The bearded man simply quoted Prince Suvorov.
          And about "long-range and more accurate," tell me who is opposed to the Hymars MLRS. hi
        2. Alexey Vorontsov
          Alexey Vorontsov 23 January 2023 19: 11
          +1
          "... by orders of magnitude ..." - how is it? 100... 1000... times?
          1. Lelik 56
            Lelik 56 25 January 2023 16: 28
            +2
            Yes, this is such a trend. Mind is not enough, which is an order of magnitude - this is 10 times and so on, 100, 1000,10000, XNUMX .....
            1. dik-nsk
              dik-nsk 26 January 2023 04: 19
              +3
              with reference to his friend, a graduate of the Academy of the General Staff
              friend Konashenkov?))
              but in general it looks like an order from the General Staff, let's say this - our answer to the supply of tanks - "we are not afraid, look how much we have already put in" .. n-yes ..
        3. Former soldier
          Former soldier 23 January 2023 22: 31
          +3
          modern weapons are orders of magnitude more long-range, more precisely, more effective and deadly than what it was during WWII. So there is nothing to be surprised at

          Yes. Theoretically, Mamai's army on the Kulikovo field would have been defeated in 1 minute.
          You cannot compare the incomparable. sad You need to look at what is here and now.
        4. Santa Fe
          Santa Fe 25 January 2023 01: 37
          +1
          But modern weapons are orders of magnitude more long-range, more accurate, more effective and more deadly than what it was during WWII. So there is nothing to be surprised at.

          Here Soltenberg will be surprised when he finds out that the entire grouping of NATO troops has been destroyed
        5. SARANCHA1976
          SARANCHA1976 25 January 2023 13: 24
          +1
          People who do not know have little idea what 23 armies are.
    2. Dart2027
      Dart2027 23 January 2023 16: 08
      -1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      These are calculations based on Konashenkov's figures.
      Definitely number one in the world...

      What a familiar song. In Perestroika, they sang the same thing about losses in the Second World War.
      1. Arkady007
        Arkady007 23 January 2023 20: 49
        +5
        As everything is familiar to the pain in the joints.
        Reward the innocent and punish the innocent.

        And BAM and Tynda and Vostochny were built exactly the same way. We are still waiting for the launch. Rather, there was a solemn start, but the work never began.
        1. Serg koma
          Serg koma 23 January 2023 21: 10
          +3
          Quote: Arkady007
          And BAM and Tyndu

          The main part of the road was built over 12 years - from April 5, 1972 to October 27, 1984, and on November 1, 1989, the entire new three thousand-kilometer section of the highway was put into permanent operation in the volume of the launch complex. The longest Severo-Muisky tunnel in Russia (15 meters), the construction of which began in May 343, was broken through to the end only in March 1977 and put into permanent operation in December 2001.


          Tynda - the capital of BAM
          1. Arkady007
            Arkady007 23 January 2023 21: 20
            -11
            Dig deeper.
            In 1932, the forces of GULAG prisoners were thrown into the construction of BAM: Bamlag was built, which was later reorganized into six forced labor camps.
            As of 2019, BAM is operating at its capacity limit. Since the 2010s, it is planned to increase the throughput and carrying capacity of the line, as well as its specialization for heavy trains (???).
            The highway is being modernized in order to increase cargo traffic.
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 23 January 2023 22: 39
              +3
              Quote: Arkady007
              Since the 2010s, it is planned to increase the throughput and carrying capacity of the line, as well as its specialization for heavy trains (???).

              In other words, an increase in the length of the train and two locomotives (two in a coupler) + lengthening of sidings at stations between the input and output traffic lights to receive these trains. I understand winked
            2. SavranP
              SavranP 24 January 2023 13: 38
              +9
              Aren't you tired of hanging noodles on your ears? What does the BAM of the 30s have to do with the BAM of the 80s? Nothing but the name. Even the route is different: from Taishet, Krasnoyarsk Territory, to Komsomolsk-on-Amur, thousands of kilometers. BAM 30s is about 300 km long, its rails and sleepers came in handy during the Second World War on the western front.
            3. Havoc
              Havoc 25 January 2023 14: 43
              +1
              Quote: Arkady007
              Dig deeper.
              In 1932, the forces of GULAG prisoners were thrown into the construction of BAM: Bamlag was built, which was later reorganized into six forced labor camps.
              As of 2019, BAM is operating at its capacity limit. Since the 2010s, it is planned to increase the throughput and carrying capacity of the line, as well as its specialization for heavy trains (???).
              The highway is being modernized in order to increase cargo traffic.

              The so-called Bamlag was dismantled in 1943, rails and sleepers were sent to build a road to Stalingrad.
          2. Jager
            Jager 24 January 2023 17: 53
            +4
            My little motherland!))
            Unlike aviation, we are relatively tolerant with hardware. It's time to revive the Ministry of Communications that was destroyed for sawing in the early 2000s.
            Well, to figure out whose bright head decided to install MTU, GE engines, as well as German electronics / electrical products and assemblies on our locomotives.
            A particularly piquant situation is with high-speed rolling stock, when experimental work in this direction was curtailed in favor of the products of Siemens (hello, Sapsan), Talgo and others.
            1. Scientist
              Scientist 25 January 2023 00: 21
              +4
              And Simens has perfectly mastered the methods of working with our officials. It has become a monopoly in many places.
    3. Egeny
      Egeny 23 January 2023 16: 30
      +9
      "according to Konashenkov's figures" - that you took up arms against him, he does not lay out the numbers from himself.
      So Sladkov also gives out, Lavrov today has already called the NWO not a hybrid, but an almost full-scale war with the West. "Lavrov announced the transformation of the war between the West and Russia from a hybrid to a real one" (RIA Novosti)
      1. Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat 23 January 2023 16: 44
        +1
        Are "sunk barges" on this list? winked wink
        1. dorz
          dorz 23 January 2023 17: 04
          -5
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          Are "sunk barges" on this list? winked wink

          He stated that during the non-war, these are not jambs, but a normal phenomenon and you need to calm down, everything is going according to plan. sad
    4. yuriy1863
      yuriy1863 23 January 2023 16: 56
      +3
      Apparently, Konashenkov personally destroyed some part of this equipment. Nine orders and the second general's star on the epaulette are real confirmation of this!
    5. Vasia
      Vasia 23 January 2023 20: 03
      +3
      Quote: voyaka uh
      These are calculations based on Konashenkov's figures.
      Definitely number one in the world...

      Can you dispute? Can you share a more objective and knowledgeable source?
      1. begemot20091
        begemot20091 23 January 2023 22: 29
        -2
        yuriy1863 can only crap one's pants on the couch. troubled person. I put on a crab, so tell me how the "girls pull the trawl" along the surf line winked
      2. cipher
        cipher 27 January 2023 15: 35
        0
        He can only say that the Russian Armed Forces have lost 404 million troops in the country, and that "dill patriots" are already on the outskirts of Moscow
    6. tvgpvo
      tvgpvo 23 January 2023 21: 29
      +5
      Do you have more accurate knowledge? Reveal the source and refute the general.
    7. 78bor1973
      78bor1973 24 January 2023 00: 15
      0
      They told you, this is without taking into account the error! And what does the first place have to do with the fact that someone else is fighting? Just no second or third...
    8. chingachguc
      chingachguc 24 January 2023 22: 11
      +4
      Give Konashenkov some toy to stop counting
      1. Alexander Fomichev
        Alexander Fomichev 25 January 2023 01: 17
        -1
        Aren't you ashamed. All ditches are covered with Ukrainian peasants. How many of them are left in Ukraine in general:? Is it really possible to save at least one peasant .. Who will live in your lands. In the spring, homeless people will start begging in droves, old women will start to hit everyone with a stick ... You are completely crazy there:? Do you want to see Turkmens or Turks / Arabs for a better fate in your cities:? How can Bandera help this.. Where are you normal Dnepraks:?
    9. zenion
      zenion 25 January 2023 16: 37
      +1
      voyaka uh. Does NATA know about this, or has NATA not been informed yet? After all, they will not know that they were destroyed and will send weapons to Ukraine, for whom, one asks, if they are no longer alive. They look from the sky, and across the fields the dead with machine guns are standing and the tanks are completely broken, without tracks, without guns and without motors, other dead people are dragging on ropes and you can hear very quietly - hey, uh...
    10. vlad106
      vlad106 25 January 2023 23: 59
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      "in less than a year, destroyed twenty-three enemy armies," ///
      ---

      These are calculations based on Konashenkov's figures.


      Yes ... Our Ministry of Defense has no equal!
      Solid genius strategists.
      But why in the first days they practically surrounded Kyiv, and then surrendered it back and now we stick out for a whole year on the lands recaptured by the Donbass?
  2. voice of reason
    voice of reason 23 January 2023 15: 55
    +23
    Yes, there are such figures. They are walking, perhaps plus or minus, because we will not establish exact data on the losses of the enemy now, only after the victory. But a view from the side of such figures gives a different reality. In general, everything is a matter of point and angle of view. Someone sees poor training and a positional dead end, and someone sees the most powerful military machine in the world.
    I will say right away that there is a look at the LBS from the inside, those same uncharacteristically bearded uncles, dressed not only in numbers and the CPSU (B) O, but also in self-bought cartoons and moss and in slides, he is far from rainbow hats. There, all the jambs and shortcomings in our army are known firsthand. But not in the direction of despondency and apathy. Everything is more likely like this - the enemy is strong, deadly, equipped from all over the world with all sorts of weapons, mercenaries again, but we don’t care, we will do them all. This is if in a censored and literary version.
    I understand that now they will write about Konashenkov and so on, but the men there at the front are not guided by PR moves and propaganda, either on their own or on someone else's. they do their thing. And they will make it to the end.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 January 2023 16: 01
      +5
      Quote: voice of reason
      They are walking, perhaps plus or minus, because we will not establish exact data on the losses of the enemy now, only after the victory.

      The accuracy in the destruction of the personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other military units of Ukraine, even after the war and all the calculations, will not be established. Either there will be no one to establish, or it will be impossible to show the actual losses.
    2. Expert
      Expert 23 January 2023 21: 13
      0
      Quote: voice of reason
      but don't care we'll make them all

      Quote: voice of reason
      but the men there at the front are not guided by PR moves and propaganda

      Clear.
    3. ch28k38
      ch28k38 24 January 2023 20: 24
      0
      Regarding the men at the front. It has not been said today that there is a soldier’s and a general’s vision of the situation, they can differ dramatically due to the different possibilities of review. There are almost only soldiers in the comments.
    4. fox_rudy
      fox_rudy 25 January 2023 01: 54
      0
      I agree with you one hundred percent!!!
      1. zenion
        zenion 25 January 2023 16: 55
        -1
        So after all, it’s not easy, they made the people poor. This is the wall for the rich. Because of this wall, the rich cannot be impoverished, and the rich cannot get to the front because of this wall. They cannot break through this wall in order to take part in the battles. In addition, the supreme powers do not allow them. Wives are crying - who are you leaving us for. Children with dads want to take the last and decisive battle, and their fathers tell them - do not go ahead of your father in hell, we will meet where the money is in the hollows. And the poor, the poor, are forced to go and fight for themselves and for those oligarchs who are not allowed to fight. Then, of course, the monument will be erected with an ever-burning candle, if the enemies do not take away oil and gas. These are such bastards, enemies, and do not give in, knowing that their business has burned out and will burn, if anything, so immediately. Our cause is right! Lefties have nothing to mess with.
  3. Uprun
    Uprun 23 January 2023 15: 56
    0
    There is logic in this, why forgive 10 tanks?
  4. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 23 January 2023 16: 02
    -7
    Maybe we’ll leave the calculation to the NATO members, they think better. They can’t determine how they will be the last one for distribution. I wonder how much metal is now accepted in Ukraine?
  5. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 23 January 2023 16: 05
    +24
    So the saturation and motorization of the armies became higher at times. Some PT funds became ten times more. And a lot of technology. But more draft horses were killed and eaten in the Second World War than in the NWO.
    1. Hagakure
      Hagakure 24 January 2023 01: 14
      +2
      You would at least take an interest in the figures of the times of the Second World War, before making such an assertion. ) During the Second World War, the Germans made three million panzerfauses alone. Where is the current pace of production.
      1. zenion
        zenion 25 January 2023 17: 03
        -1
        Hagakure. So there were more German Nazis in Germany, under Hitler's dick, than in Ukraine under Zelensky. But a little more and Zelensky will be a hyurer, real and temporarily alive.
      2. stankow
        stankow 26 January 2023 10: 44
        0
        One panzerfaust - one RPG grenade. And not one "Cornet".
  6. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 23 January 2023 16: 05
    +1
    The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation would long ago have defeated the army of any state that would not have been fully supported by the entire collective West and its allies.
    For 100 years everyone has been fighting coalitions .... request Both Hitler and Wilhelm .... Alone, no one but us and the "allies" after the battle for Moscow drew themselves.
    1. yablocko
      yablocko 23 January 2023 22: 06
      -1
      Matilda and Hurricanes took part in the battle for Moscow, and lend-lease began in 41.
      Love to lie, right?
      1. Andrey Nikolaev_4
        Andrey Nikolaev_4 24 January 2023 00: 58
        +2
        That's right - Matilda "took part" in the amount of several units, and there were no Hurricanes near Moscow - they just started flying in Karelia in December. So who likes to lie?
        1. DMFalke
          DMFalke 24 January 2023 10: 32
          +1
          There may not have been Harrkanes near Moscow, but the Air Force of the Northern Fleet has been using them since October 1941, and if we count the British pilots, then from August-September 1941. 78 IAP.
          According to Matilda, every tank counted during the evacuation. Thank you for posting as well.
          1. kaa
            kaa 25 January 2023 06: 36
            +2
            Nobody in their right mind introduces "several units" into battle. While the amount of equipment for the unit was accumulated, while the instructions were translated and the personnel were trained, the Matildas went into battle in 1942.
      2. stankow
        stankow 26 January 2023 10: 46
        0
        The real Lend-Lease began already in 1943.
    2. yablocko
      yablocko 23 January 2023 22: 10
      +2
      and what about coalitions: anti-Napoleonic, Entente, and allies in the Second World War (supplies of equipment, resources, bombardment of German industry, provision of intelligence) these are certainly not coalitions, they have vile and decaying coalitions, but they never take us, yes (no)?
      1. Joaozinho
        Joaozinho 24 January 2023 20: 28
        0
        Russia is accepted into the coalition only when the Anglo-Saxons have a stronger enemy (than Russia itself), which needs to be showered with cannon fodder.
    3. DMFalke
      DMFalke 24 January 2023 10: 37
      -2
      Somehow it turns out strangely, the allies "waited for the battle for Moscow", and the PQ convoy went from August -41. Didn't even wait for it to start. Doesn't fit somehow.
      1. zenion
        zenion 25 January 2023 17: 09
        +1
        DMFalke. You should read the book PQ 17, I don’t remember the author, but he wrote about what happened to these ships. In addition, find out when America came close to starting the war and gave Lend-Lease to the British, and when they began to deliver to the USSR.
      2. poquello
        poquello 25 January 2023 19: 31
        0
        Quote from DMFalke
        the PQ convoy went from August -41. Didn't even wait to get started. It doesn't fit somehow.

        everything comes down to money
        Quote: zenion
        PQ 17, I don't remember the author

        V. Pikul
    4. Sumotori_380
      Sumotori_380 25 January 2023 09: 27
      +1
      Well, strictly speaking, when the Germans and the Britons fought in the Battle of Britain in 1940, Uncle Joe also crunched popcorn ...
  7. antiquity
    antiquity 23 January 2023 16: 09
    -21
    According to the pediwiki, Ukraine had ~ 700 tanks + 1100 in conservation.
    Well, let them drive 1000 more.
    Where is 7537 from? belay
    Although, of course, if you refer to a friend who is a friend of another friend, who is a friend of a very important friend of the boss, then ...
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 23 January 2023 16: 13
      +19
      So this is the total number of destroyed tanks and armored combat vehicles.
    2. Dart2027
      Dart2027 23 January 2023 17: 53
      +3
      Quote from starina
      Where is 7537 from?
      Didn't try to read the article.
      7537 Ukrainian tanks and AFVs were destroyed (more, of course, AFVs - excluding tanks)
    3. Zefr
      Zefr 23 January 2023 22: 24
      +1
      Here, the downed ones are probably taken into account. And they were not once repaired
  8. newtc7
    newtc7 23 January 2023 16: 09
    -12
    At least stop spreading this nonsense...
    Konashenkov will soon kill all the tanks of the world at such a pace. I think people are really stupid
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 23 January 2023 16: 23
      +2
      It turns out that people do not care much to think and listen to what exactly they are told.
      And all the military already say that the numbers, in the war, must be treated with the understanding that they will overestimate / underestimate, depending on whose losses they will talk about.
      Anyway, the main result, only victory ... maybe defeat, that's how it will turn out.
  9. air wolf
    air wolf 23 January 2023 16: 15
    +20
    Huge thanks to our guys soldier
    And eternal memory to the fallen, they are all heroes for us!
  10. digger
    digger 23 January 2023 16: 17
    +14
    Everything is correct. And who still lives in another parallel world and thinks that these are notions of the RF Ministry of Defense, let him first see how many waves of mobilization have been carried out and are now being carried out by the ukrovermacht and how many weapons and TANKS are constantly required - this is not all from victory over Russia ... but from colossal losses .
    1. Osipov9391
      Osipov9391 23 January 2023 16: 48
      0
      There are no fabulous losses of aviation there at all - only dozens of cars were lost, and then in half of the cases for other reasons, such as indiscriminate fire from their air defense, piloting errors and failures.
      This is about tactical aviation.
      The military transport was brought to Europe a year ago and is now transporting weapons to Poland from all over the continent.
      And yes, Ukraine somehow does not particularly request the supply of Soviet-made aircraft. Because the situation does not require it. They cope with what is left and what is removed from storage with the support of spare parts from abroad, probably.
      1. Sergey Valov
        Sergey Valov 23 January 2023 17: 33
        +4
        “Because the situation does not require it” - not therefore. Because it is much more difficult to operate aviation equipment on the ground. Plus, pilot retraining takes months, and years from scratch.
        1. Osipov9391
          Osipov9391 23 January 2023 17: 39
          +1
          In Ukraine, there were a fair amount of ARZ and technical specialists, part of the avionics for the Su-27 and MiG-29 was produced there, including radar and helmet-mounted target designation systems, missiles were also made in Kyiv.
          There are also enough pilots of very different qualifications - someone has experience of the war in Donbass since 2014, someone has a long-standing experience of mercenary work in various hot spots on the planet.
          There is information that the most experienced pilots are still being held for retraining for Western aircraft.
      2. navycat777
        navycat777 25 January 2023 13: 44
        0
        After the delivery of NATO tanks and the development of their maintenance, the turn will come for aviation, such as the f-16. and more than 4600 of them have been released. This is alarming. Unless it won't be soon.
  11. rocket757
    rocket757 23 January 2023 16: 19
    -1
    Graduate of the Academy of the General Staff: the performance of the RF Armed Forces during the NMD in terms of the rate of destruction of enemy equipment surpasses even the times of the Second World War
    there is more equipment in the troops, as well as a lot more means of destroying that equipment ... in general, it is necessary to compare with that other war, only in relatively numbers, and even then, it is necessary to divide it into different periods of time.
  12. HAM
    HAM 23 January 2023 16: 19
    -4
    Quote from: newtc7
    I think people are really stupid


    Thinking badly about people...
  13. Mikhail Ivanov
    Mikhail Ivanov 23 January 2023 16: 31
    -1
    The pentathlete would have won on Mars too... Today they reported another destruction of Hymars... Is there at least one confirmation? There, 13 systems are installed at the complex, and you managed to foresee a lot ...
    Although, in some ways, Sladkov is right - we really crush half the world with small forces
  14. Mikhail Ivanov
    Mikhail Ivanov 23 January 2023 16: 35
    +5
    Quote: voice of reason
    They are walking, perhaps plus or minus, because we will not establish exact data on the losses of the enemy now, only after the victory.

    Regarding the losses in the Second World War, we still do not know what we have, what the Fritz has ... No one will ever tell the truth. The reason is that no one needs it! Politics, however...
    1. Sergey Valov
      Sergey Valov 23 January 2023 17: 36
      +3
      Everything is well known, both about us and about the Germans and about all the others. And all information is publicly available.
      1. Krivobokoff
        Krivobokoff 23 January 2023 18: 47
        -7
        And how then to talk about "contrary" and "thrown meat"? No, nothing is known about the losses
  15. Amateur
    Amateur 23 January 2023 16: 41
    +6
    Graduate of the Academy of the General Staff

    Department of General Konashenkov?
  16. Osipov9391
    Osipov9391 23 January 2023 16: 43
    -8
    There are no 372 downed Ukrainian planes and close.
    It is only in TV news that they shoot down the adversary in batches.
    The losses of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are only dozens of vehicles - insignificant for 11 months.
    And at least half of these losses are friendly fire of their air defense, technical failures
    and piloting errors.

    Read more: http://forums.airforce.ru/matchast/5887-poteri-i-boevoi-sostav-vvs-ukrainy-77/

    To supporters of some unprecedented deliveries of Su-27 and Su-24 to Ukraine, I will immediately say that the declared
    the number of destroyed aircraft was not only in Ukraine, but nowhere in the world!
    The Su-27 was generally delivered to few places, and in those countries where it still exists, it is either decommissioned or
    badly damaged cars.
    And who from what Eritrea or Angola would start to overtake them to Ukraine?

    So, the Ukrainian Air Force almost completely manages with its equipment and equipment removed from storage with meager deliveries of Macedonian Su-25s and ex-Afghan Mi-17s.
    1. Neutral Neutral
      Neutral Neutral 25 January 2023 07: 07
      +1
      Yes, that's why the talk about the transfer of the former. Ukre Soviet aircraft / helicopters and began on the transfer of Western ones. This is not because MIGs, Sushki and Mili have been raked out from all over the world, no * hand *
      1. Osipov9391
        Osipov9391 25 January 2023 14: 02
        +1
        NOBODY handed over any Soviet aircraft to Ukraine. Just for one simple reason - in such quantity they do not exist ANYWHERE in nature!!!
        Even if you search all over the world. Su-27 and Su-24 cannot be found - they are not physically available almost anywhere. Is it only in Africa that a dozen and a half can be found.
        But no one would have taken them from there to Ukraine across half the globe - they probably have a remnant of a resource with a gulkin nose.
        And Polish and Slovak MiGs are still in their countries and are operated by the national air force.
  17. Vadim Topal Pasha
    Vadim Topal Pasha 23 January 2023 16: 45
    -4
    The very idea of ​​the title of the article is absolutely correct. Having read the title, I said: "I took it off my tongue" (C). And I regretted that I did not have time to write an article earlier.

    But it was implemented in a very poor way. On Konashenko's "information". Hence the propaganda effect is directly opposite from the declared expected.
  18. Vadim Topal Pasha
    Vadim Topal Pasha 23 January 2023 16: 47
    -5
    Quote: Digger
    Everything is correct. And who still lives in another parallel world and thinks that these are notions of the RF Ministry of Defense, let him first see how many waves of mobilization have been carried out and are now being carried out by the ukrovermacht and how many weapons and TANKS are constantly required - this is not all from victory over Russia ... but from colossal losses .

    Just don't forget that the T-34 originally had a resource of 50 hours. Yes, and much later tanks - 200 hours. Then the inevitable rebuild.
  19. Igor_Sergeevich
    Igor_Sergeevich 23 January 2023 16: 48
    +2
    Graduate of the Academy of the General Staff: introduces the concept of artillery armies, will go far ...
  20. malyvalv
    malyvalv 23 January 2023 17: 09
    +1
    There is something in such calculations. After we left the Kharkiv region, the Ukrainians boasted that they had captured 800 units of our equipment. They even posted photos for each piece of equipment. But literally a month later, the Ukrainians very strongly requested 300 tanks and 600 AFVs from the West. So it’s not clear whether the Ukrainians did lie, or whether our army wentuged all the abandoned equipment in a month. Most likely both.
    Now, according to our reports, we have been destroying their tanks a little lately. Either the Ukrainians have completely run out of them, or they are hiding them.
    1. Osipov9391
      Osipov9391 23 January 2023 17: 15
      +8
      And how do you understand "destroy"?
      If the tank burned down / exploded - it is no more.
      If he is with a damaged engine or tracks, his fate is in question.
      Usually, evacuation teams do not sleep and take away such equipment as soon as possible.
      for repairs. They do it quickly, there are donors for spare parts.
    2. Rakitin
      Rakitin 25 January 2023 00: 28
      +1
      So that's all - lined, completely burned out, simply technically faulty. The same Ukrainians reluctantly admitted that less than 30 units were able to be adapted for use, of which only a third were tanks. This is confirmed by the obvious fact that the trophy Ross. equipment has been highlighted in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the forefront only a few times over the past six months.
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  22. vovochkarzhevsky
    vovochkarzhevsky 23 January 2023 17: 21
    +3
    Of course, it is very good to compare with the planes of the bodies of years. For example, the Il-2 attack aircraft lifted 400 kg of bombs. Su-25 carries all 4000 kg. The front-line bomber Pe-2 in overload pulled 1000 kg, the Su-34 and 12000 will master.
    It’s beautiful, of course, but there, at the General Staff, they didn’t even try to compare planes in terms of cost?
  23. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 23 January 2023 18: 08
    +5
    I remembered the question-answer of one fan resource, the times of youth
    "I was drinking with a guy from the club yesterday, so he told me this..."

    Vague gossip, gleaned from people who have a very distant relationship with the club, is better to keep to yourself so as not to be a laughing stock. More often than not, those who know the least the most puff out their cheeks and talk.
  24. Fredgar Puzix Jr.
    Fredgar Puzix Jr. 23 January 2023 18: 18
    0
    But to reduce our losses, don't you want?!?!? Drum command ......... as before ....
    They invaded with columns not covered, without a massive crushing air strike for at least 2 months (as in the same Yugoslavia, 72 days - strikes were delivered without a direct invasion)
    1. Victorovich
      Victorovich 25 January 2023 14: 29
      0
      Eh hehehushki hoho... (sad.
      I expected the same from our NWOs in the DESERT STORM format .....
      But the reality turned out to be so different that it’s straight horror.
      A couple of weeks after the start of the JWO, I had already stopped understanding the methods of conducting the JWO. All questions that arose regarding the NWO - all related to the planners and command of the NWO and the General Staff.
  25. Sebostyuan
    Sebostyuan 23 January 2023 18: 20
    +7
    Enemy losses are great. In fact, ukrovermah has been updated both in drugs and in technology. There are "particularly distinguished" parts that have been updated - three times. But I don't believe in Konashenko's numbers. They are full of postscripts from the field. Which is not his fault.
    Personally, I am not interested in the reliability of the figures from Konashenko, but in other issues. What is the current potential of the VSU and how did its losses bring us closer to victory? How many times can the line-up be updated? What prevents isolating the Armed Forces from the supply of equipment and depriving them of the opportunity to carry out rotation and mobilization?
  26. Enverych
    Enverych 23 January 2023 18: 24
    +2
    Any data on losses are estimated and are obviously adjusted in their favor by both sides of ANY conflict.

    But here's the method of counting upsets. A tank army can be considered destroyed if tanks and armored combat vehicles are disabled, but a combined arms army ... And it is doubly incorrect to increase the counter of destroyed armies due to broken vehicles “by 8 full-fledged armies”. If only because 5 of these 8 have already been destroyed in the "combined arms" column. And here the same conditionally destroyed army is counted several times.

    - Are we destroying a lot of enemy equipment?
    - Well done! Keep it up!
    Do we want to brag about it? - That's right, that's right.

    But all the same, the mind must be done, and not just for the sake of the headline. It seems like a serious resource here, and not a haven of clickbait in the style of “to lose weight, you just need to eat one teaspoon of plain Soviet one at night ...”
  27. buslaif
    buslaif 23 January 2023 18: 37
    +1
    It is emphasized that the effectiveness of the Russian army in the course of a special operation in Ukraine exceeds the times of the Second World War and other wars.
    Correspondents, of course, must be forgiven for their ignorance. It is understandable, I want to please people and cheer up the fighters. However, statistics do not agree with the opinion of experts in counting losses. For example, in the last 3 months of 1944, on the German border, the Red Army destroyed 96 divisions and inflicted heavy damage on 219 divisions, 33 of which were completely disbanded. During this time, the German armed forces lost more than 1,5 million soldiers and officers, 6700 tanks, 28 guns and mortars, and 12 aircraft. Such a pace of advance and such losses in such a short time history did not know and, it seems, did not will never know.
    The total losses of equipment during the war along the Soviet-German front of Germany with the allies: combat aircraft 58900 pieces, tanks and self-propelled guns 32500 pieces, guns and mortars 289200 pieces.
    The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation would long ago have defeated the army of any state that would not have been fully supported by the entire collective West and its allies.
    It makes no sense to dwell on the reasons (here this issue has already been thoroughly analyzed more than once) why we have not yet denazified and demilitarized Ukraine, especially since almost a year of confrontation has not liberated the Donbass. Well, the support of the West is, of course, the reason, but just one of many.
  28. buslaif
    buslaif 23 January 2023 18: 56
    +3
    Quote: Mikhail-Ivanov
    Regarding the losses in the Second World War, we still do not know what we have, what the Fritz has ... No one will ever tell the truth. The reason is that no one needs it! Politics, however...

    Well, why not. Our total losses of military equipment and weapons in all positions: aircraft, tanks and self-propelled guns, guns and mortars, more than German ones together with their allies. The total losses of equipment for the war along the Soviet-German front amounted to: (thousand units) Germany with allies on Eastern Front - Combat aircraft, 58,9 Tanks and self-propelled guns, 32,5 Guns and mortars 289,2 Warships (units) 708 / 633** USSR 88,3 / 43,1*), 96,5, 317,5, 1014, XNUMX
    *) - common in the numerator, combat in the denominator; the share of non-combat losses for other types of military equipment was insignificant;
    **) - in the denominator bilateral data, in the numerator only according to our records. These are data from military historians. The difference in numbers should not scare. If we take aviation, then we have a lot, especially in the initial period of the war, of broken aircraft outside the front: when training cadets, flying around after assembly at factories, when transferring from factories to the front. Non-combat losses of weapons and ammunition reached large proportions in the first months war. Only in three border districts (PribOVO, ZapOVO, KOVO) during the 10 days of the war, several thousand wagons of artillery equipment concentrated in district warehouses were lost and destroyed during the withdrawal of our troops. The surviving documents testify that only in 17 detonated warehouses of these districts there were 6838 wagons of weapons and ammunition, incl. 442 wagons of artillery materiel, 5814 wagons of ammunition, 181 wagons of small arms, 401 wagons of various artillery pieces.
  29. Elephant
    Elephant 23 January 2023 19: 22
    +3
    Another General Staff extra was found. It would be better to name the reason why nothing arrives at the Kyiv office of Ze
  30. runway-1
    runway-1 23 January 2023 19: 35
    +4
    In total, according to the military correspondent, Russia destroyed twenty-three enemy armies in less than a year, a number sufficient to form four fronts.
    Baron Karl Friedrich Hieronymus von Munchausen?! winked
  31. Kunich
    Kunich 23 January 2023 22: 01
    +2
    Yes, right! 230 armies! Why pity the enemies? Paper will endure everything.
    To collect all these "graduates" of crappy ones, but to the front. Perhaps enlightenment in the brain will come.
  32. Andrey Bragin
    Andrey Bragin 24 January 2023 02: 30
    +1
    That is, the Ukrainian army has been destroyed and now they have gone around the second circle? And if the Ukrainian army has been destroyed, then why aren't we in Kyiv yet? And finally, why is it necessary to hide the name of a graduate of the General Staff Academy?
    1. DMFalke
      DMFalke 24 January 2023 10: 51
      +1
      why do you need the alumni name? We need the names of teachers and examiners that released such a fruit laughing
  33. Oleg Apushkin
    Oleg Apushkin 24 January 2023 03: 25
    +2
    I agree with the comments above.
    According to the administration, the article does not carry useful information. Sladkov's FRIEND, a graduate of the ACADEMY, turns out to be just Mr. H. "The real fact... is mixed with the purest lie... Correspondence... is written by a person from those who, according to the proverb, heard the ringing, but do not know where he is..."
  34. dfk-80
    dfk-80 24 January 2023 06: 45
    0
    I hope the FSB has already figured out this source and transferred it to disposable sappers for incompetence?
    Why does he have tank armies without artillery and trucks? He is a student? The combined arms armies also have artillery and air defense, and the same tanks, and armored personnel carriers. As I understand it, the author of the article does not have critical thinking, at least.
  35. Krilion
    Krilion 24 January 2023 06: 54
    +3
    now it remains to explain why the Ukrainians are still shelling Donetsk .. a year has passed, "the whole of Europe has been ground", but there is practically no result .... and if compared with the army of the USSR during the Second World War, then the entire today's General Staff would have long ago been shot along with by all the "graduates of the academies" who dug in in it, and the Soviet troops would have reached Berlin long ago ...
    1. Neutral Neutral
      Neutral Neutral 25 January 2023 07: 11
      0
      The short answer is that the army, by and large, is still soviet, but there is no soviet industry and human resources.
  36. Vodila
    Vodila 24 January 2023 09: 40
    +1
    Why are our losses, at least taking into account the error and lies, no one voices?
    1. newtc7
      newtc7 24 January 2023 19: 56
      +1
      Quote: Vodila
      Why are our losses, at least taking into account the error and lies, no one voices?


      Ukrainians voice.
  37. vvn_vl
    vvn_vl 24 January 2023 11: 28
    +2
    for a graduate of the academy - very primitive ... or did they finish one with the minister? Lenin also said: bridges, telegraph, telephone. bridges are standing, communication is working, i.e. management and supply is carried out. look for - who benefits
  38. Expert
    Expert 24 January 2023 13: 36
    +1
    Considering that our losses are classified, it is difficult to talk about effectiveness without comparing the items lost / destroyed.
    1. zenion
      zenion 25 January 2023 17: 58
      -1
      Let it all be from the ceiling, but how did this people get started ?! And they will keep going. This is something like a song - Dark Night, one bullet stuck in the wires, and the second all night until the morning, chasing a soldier.
  39. single-n
    single-n 24 January 2023 18: 19
    -1
    In total, according to the military correspondent, Russia destroyed in less than a year twenty-three enemy armies, an amount sufficient to form four fronts.


    We consider this nonsense. Where in the tank armies there are no cars, rocket launchers, artillery and air defense.
    counting by tanks 5+2
    rszo-1
    PVO-1
    arta-4
    auto-8
    Total 21 armies Where are the other 2?
    Lord, well, you know what to write, then at least don’t carry complete nonsense. There is only one harm from such propaganda.
    I don’t even want to write about the fact that armies, like fronts, can be VERY different in size. The 33rd army of Efremov in the battles near Moscow had a strength of about 11 thousand people.
    The 3rd Belarusian front in April 45 had a strength of 100 thousand. At the same time, 3 others (1,2 Belarusian and 1st Ukrainian) stormed Berlin with about 2-2,5 million people.
    So what four fronts did the correspondent count? 1 million? Maybe we have already killed the entire population of the EU and have taken over the US? But we can’t move the front even 30 km away from Donetsk from natural laziness?
    Crazy scribes zadolbali.
  40. acetophenone
    acetophenone 24 January 2023 21: 16
    +1
    ... with reference to his friend, a graduate of the Academy of the General Staff.

    Too lazy to even laugh. Meli, Emelya, your week ...
  41. IgorIP
    IgorIP 24 January 2023 21: 51
    +1
    Correctly! Write more! Destroyed 30.. no 300 armies!! Why should their basurman feel sorry for something ??
  42. Deon59
    Deon59 24 January 2023 21: 54
    +2
    There is no fairy tale about an analogue, and the second army in the world, the best air defense, unique maneuvers to level the front line, the super theorist Gerasimov, now the best reporter is grinding his brains.
  43. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 24 January 2023 22: 00
    +1
    And in the old days they said that Ukraine sold all the equipment, and she has so much.
    Even if you take away the gifts of "friends", then dofiga too.
  44. UAZ 452
    UAZ 452 25 January 2023 06: 44
    -1
    the effectiveness of the RF Armed Forces during the NMD in terms of the rate of destruction of enemy equipment surpasses even the times of the Second World War

    Yes ... During the Great Patriotic War, Hitler's aviation, unfortunately, could not be completely destroyed more than twice in a year, or is it now ...
  45. Volunteer Marek
    Volunteer Marek 25 January 2023 08: 41
    -1
    Well, it's on paper... It's all propaganda. In the meantime, heavy fighting continues. And, I think that we will not know about real losses very soon. If we find out...
  46. BorzRio
    BorzRio 25 January 2023 09: 18
    0
    How we love to compose and fantasize on the topic "if only, if only!". If the West hadn't helped, if the helicopters hadn't been flying low, if it hadn't been for the general mobilization among Ukrainians.... We always have "if only..." That's when... We would have shown Kuz'kin's mother! We must not relax from our fantasies, but exclude mistakes, fight on the basis of our own and other people's experience. If the losses for the Armed Forces of Ukraine would have been critical, the front would have collapsed towards the West long ago. But somehow there is no special progress. We beat off a kilometer for a month. And we are taking serious losses. So there is nothing to brag about globally so far in the NWO.
  47. Sibiryak70region
    Sibiryak70region 25 January 2023 10: 29
    +1
    Is this the general staff that, when planning the NWO, could not simply calculate that we did not have enough grouping for such an operation? wassat
  48. Mikhail Maslov
    Mikhail Maslov 25 January 2023 12: 46
    0
    So, so, please, numbers on personnel. Objectively, our losses and banderlogs. And then it’s even more interesting how many kilometers a Soviet soldier walked, crawled and how many were liberated by Russians. And most importantly, where is the RESULT?
  49. Victorovich
    Victorovich 25 January 2023 13: 09
    0
    Why count their basurmans - write more!
  50. Parvis rasulov
    Parvis rasulov 25 January 2023 16: 02
    0
    Here, in one article, it is written that 70 BMP 2 were destroyed in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then the questions are how many tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers were actually destroyed from the destroyed 7537 Ukrainian tanks and armored combat vehicles?
    If you look at the videos posted by the Ukrainians, I would not say that the number of tanks they have decreased, and these videos show the entire range of tanks of the T64 and T72 series, and the number of destroyed air defense systems is also doubtful, from myself I will add the number of missiles on some complexes the Ukrainians have exhausted , but some other complexes such as Osa, Strela 10 and C 125 receive direct deliveries from Poland, Hungary and Bulgaria