Khodakovsky: Enemy artillery is our main enemy

Any military tactic must be supported by the ability to quickly destroy enemy artillery systems using modern means of detection. This was stated by the former Minister of State Security of the DPR Alexander Khodakovsky.

As Khodakovsky emphasized in his Telegram channel, according to statistics, about ninety percent of our losses occur as a result of the actions of enemy artillery, which is our main enemy. Field artillery systems have to be dealt with both in the course of defense and in offensive operations.

Khodakovsky noted that systemic weapons capable of reaching enemy artillery positions and hitting them with a high probability of destruction have not yet been developed. The use of currently existing types of weapons is chaotic and does not satisfy all the needs of the front, and given the low effectiveness of artillery reconnaissance, the current state of affairs does not inspire optimism.

The former Minister of State Security of the DPR also stressed that effective counteraction to enemy artillery at any distance can save many lives of our soldiers.

Currently, several groups of enthusiasts are working on a solution to this problem. The existing difficulties are not insurmountable for our land, which has an inexhaustible potential, summed up Khodakovsky.

Comments

[voice of reason]

Yes, their art is powerful. was. At the beginning of SVO. Firstly, there was a lot of experience and practice. Secondly, a successful combination of foreign intelligence and Soviet weapons. At the beginning of the SVO, the enemy directly showed miracles of efficiency. Well, of course, it’s clear how he did it — firstly, then there was an offensive and all our positions were their former positions — thoroughly studied by the enemy. In the occupied premises where their spotters were, you can even see how they organized it. On the wall are photographs of different places and locations taken already in isometric projection from a drone. And there, according to the squares "from the tree to the corner of the house," the squares are indicated by coordinates. And accordingly, these coordinates were transferred to the mortar and artillery batteries in the case when they noticed any movement from the same UAVs. And all this is adjusted, honed into a deadly synchronism. As soon as someone comes into view there is an address sketch. On infantry with shrapnel for air blasting on light equipment with fragmentation, on armor with high-explosive and armor-piercing ... And go and find these spotters themselves. Where are they hiding. they were then widely used and high-definition video cameras installed on elevated points and simply covert surveillance. Observers are smartly sitting, they don’t give themselves away with fire even at single targets. In general, you just poke your head into the gray zone and immediately arrives, it’s as if the cover is coming and it’s not clear where it’s coming from.
A little later, somewhere in July, in my opinion, palladins and axes began to appear in them, followed by Caesars. And that's when the blows began to be applied more to the locations in the rear. Instead of controlling the battlefield, the UN began strikes according to satellite and undercover intelligence. at the places of parking of equipment, at the identified headquarters at the warehouses illuminated at the locations of personnel on the second line.
In fact, they began to hit more accurately and farther, but much less often. And most importantly, these blows, of course, are also unpleasant and cause damage, but they do not hold back the advance directly on the battlefield. And pay attention to where the enemy’s defense has been standing since the age of 14, it’s very difficult to advance there - an example is Avdiivka. but where they satiated with new foreign artillery, which pops up, shoots off half a set and runs away from the counter-battery response there, the promotion is just successful.
You think there was no foreign artillery near Soledar or Lisichanok, there was, but there was no system of interaction and defense. observers should be covered by a sniper and machine-gun points, and those by minefields. And the observers do not allow mine clearing and moving forward by pointing artillery and mortars. When all this is honed, it is impossible to move forward, no matter how much meat you throw. It's like barbed wire and machine guns in the first world. Until they found ways to fight, it created a positional impasse. However, now the enemy does not have much of such an old defense. but in new places, for some reason they can’t organize it like that. either there are no shells for the Soviet artillery, or all the competent artels for foreign equipment left, and she, according to her plan, worked in the mode of nomadic batteries. Not for containment, but for causing damage to unprotected rear units.
If you dig deeper, then there may be different concepts for the use of artillery. All this needs to be analyzed and studied properly. Including with the interrogation of prisoners to find out certain reasons. different conclusions can be drawn, but we must first understand the premises. And this is not yet clear.

[Uncle lee]

groups of enthusiasts are working on a solution to this problem

And where are our vaunted counter-battery radars?

[Beetle1991]

And where are our vaunted counter-battery radars?

Are you talking about the zoo, pinicillin (acoustic art intelligence) and others? Yes, in the same place as the Pole-21 electronic warfare, which was supposed to jam GPS for tens of kilometers, turning all Western high-precision satellite-guided weapons simply into useless trash.
And now the Ukrainians, like in a shooting range, are shooting a squirrel in the eye with highmars and escaliburs.
Do not be lazy, read old articles (before the start of the NWO) about the electronic warfare field, there were a lot on this site, read the comments. How praised, oh how praised.
Here is a quote from an article on this site: www.topwar.ru/182196-kompleksy-rjeb-pole-21-v-rossijskoj-armii.html With optimal placement, one complex with 100 antenna posts can cover an area of ​​150 x 150 km. A reliable "dome" of interference is created over such an area, excluding the use of satellite navigation.

The bridges in Kherson were demolished by the Hymars, neither air defense nor electronic warfare helped. For some reason, throwing hats did not work.

[Edik]

voice_of reason and why they give you a minus, I don’t understand? You state everything correctly. One arrival is sighting, and then everything is on point!

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

It seems that they knocked out most of the artillery equipped universal battery level fire control system UBLFDS (Universal Battery Level Fire Direction System) from the Ukrainian company Ukranian Defense Consulting . Therefore, they switched to NATO fire control systems.

[Stas157]

. Khodakovsky noted that still systemic weapons were not developed that could reach the position of enemy artillery and hit them

Still? So you need to contact a specialist who can click them. We have one!

[Rosemary]

The artillery school must also be taken into account. Under the USSR, half of the higher command artillery schools of the Soviet Army (three out of six) were located on the territory of Ukraine - Odessa, Sumy and Khmelnytsky.

Two higher command artillery schools of the SA were located in Russia - Leningrad (in 1993 it was reorganized into a cadet corps) and Kolomna (disbanded in 2008).

One SA Higher Command Artillery School was located in Tbilisi, in 1992 it was transferred to Yekaterinburg and reorganized into the Yekaterinburg Higher Artillery Command School (disbanded in 2011).

[sgrabik]

If dill still has a lot of powerful enough artillery, then why don't we increase the production of "smart" long-range ammunition and modern loitering kamikaze drones capable of timely tracking down enemy artillery installations and effectively destroying them, the question is addressed to our "effective managers" from VPK.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Now I was reading an article by the Moskovsky Komsomolets on Zen, where the mobilized one talked about the tactics of dropping radio beacons from the quadrocopters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and then the artillery begins to work almost immediately.

[voyaka uh]

Yes, that explains a lot. There was a video where from a salvo of 5 mortars, three fell exactly into the trench at intervals along the length, and two had a miss of 1 m, no more, from the edge of the trench.
Finest adjustment

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

These were yours, special Ukrainian hand mines, and that's why it happened, as you imagined.

[Beetle1991]

Now I was reading an article by the Moskovsky Komsomolets on Zen, where the mobilized one talked about the tactics of dropping radio beacons from the quadrocopters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and then the artillery begins to work almost immediately.

Complete nonsense.
Radio beacons from copters for correction, this is only mobilized and could tell.
There are mines / projectiles with GPS guidance, for example, a 155mm Excalibur projectile. there are mines / shells with a laser seeker, for example, a mine edge, a whaler shell.

But to scatter beacons from copters, for correction, this is something completely crazy.
Most likely, the position was spotted from the copter, so it flew over them. And if something was dropped from the copter, then most likely it was a VOG or a grenade from an American grenade launcher, there are 40mm cumulative ones, the APU likes to hang them under the mavics. They don't always explode. That's probably the mobik thought up that it was a beacon.

[vovochkarzhevsky]

And what about the counter-battery fight in the troops? For example, from this radar station, which was shone at MAKS back in 2008.

Or is 15 years, in modern times too short a time to reach deliveries to the troops?

[dmi.pris1]

This is the "Stork". It is used, according to reports. Problems in bringing to concrete calculations. By the time the enemy team arrives, it has time to change position

[vovochkarzhevsky]

And why am I not surprised that for our generals, the concept of real-time data exchange is still sending a messenger with a note.
Although, they also had combat tablets, which means they type the text, then they give the tablet to the messenger and go ahead.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Well, the Tornado-S MLRS is too expensive to use to destroy a separate gun, if several guns in a separate area are still justified, the Hermes ATGM would be well suited for certain purposes of the identified UAVs, but nothing is heard about it.

[Horon]

and in conditions of low efficiency of artillery reconnaissance

That is why it turns out that:

The use of currently existing weapons is chaotic and does not satisfy all the needs of the front

This is first of all, and homing ammunition that has the ability to independently recognize guns or other equipment from the enemy and is capable of being in search mode for a long time, and having a range of at least 50+ km, will not be invented for a long time. There is nothing and no one, there is no hardware of their own, and programmers of the required level are in no hurry to conclude contracts with state enterprises, since they already have highly paid jobs in private firms, moreover, some of them have now become "frightened patriots" and left the territory of Russia .

[topol717]

Quote: Horon

This is first of all, and homing ammunition that has the ability to independently recognize guns or other equipment from the enemy and is capable of being in search mode for a long time, and having a range of at least 50+ km, will not be invented for a long time.

That's just not a homing projectile. This one will first of all start shooting at his own, he himself is guided.
By the way, programmers are not needed there, because for this they use existing neural networks that were developed and written ten years ago. and if you train her to identify a Howitzer or Grad, then she will do it very quickly and efficiently, and programmers are not needed for this, you just need a lot of pictures of these howitzers or hail. and that's it. By the way, modern processors and a microcircuit are not really needed either, because soapbox cameras determined smiling faces with open eyes 15 years ago.

[Horon]

That's just not a homing projectile.

To do this, usually, the projectile is first thrown into the enemy zone, after which it should already be aimed in a given search area.

By the way, programmers are not needed there, because for this they use existing neural networks that were developed and written ten years ago.

The initial configuration needs to be done by programmers, after which they will already work. The weight of such a "projectile" will be like that of a "caliber" at a cost greater than that of it. Such systems are good when installed on the guns of tanks themselves, but on artillery systems they will be meaningless, since artillery systems do not see the target, they hit at known coordinates and the accuracy of establishing these coordinates depends on many factors, including target mobility. Here, at least a laser rangefinder, with the function of determining coordinates, should be massively applied, operational interaction should be established with advanced units and reconnaissance, and a tablet with a positioning function and a ballistic computer should be put on any weapon or multiple launch rocket system - already progress!

[rocket757]

Khodakovsky: Enemy artillery is our main enemy

. So yes, shells will be thrown at them, and then they will throw more, like guns.
It's not infinite, but for now they have enough.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

If only it were that simple, there are more mines, the infinite number of which is the most confusing.

[blackcat]

Only saturation with drones, moreover, very small, but reconnaissance and strike drones, capable of being in the air for a couple of hours, and not chasing individual Ukrainians with vogs, but knocking out ammunition from artillery, a vog placed exactly in a shell box next to a gun is worth a lot