Starlink terminals taken from the positions of Ukrainian troops as trophies give our side the opportunity to study and operate them

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Starlink terminals taken from the positions of Ukrainian troops as trophies give our side the opportunity to study and operate them

The former head of Roskosmos, Dmitry Rogozin, who underwent a successful operation after being wounded in Donetsk, told reporters that in the DPR our fighters take a wide variety of enemy trophies, including high-tech equipment.

According to the head of the Tsarskie Wolves group, expressed in an interview RIA News, fighters in the Donetsk People's Republic managed to take the terminals of the American Starlink satellite communications system as trophies. These terminals were used by the military personnel of the enemy army, including directly on the positions.



Recall that earlier Elon Musk, whose company owns the satellite communication terminals supplied to the Kyiv regime, said that today the connection from Starlink is, in fact, the only one that works smoothly in Ukraine. At the same time, Musk added that "Russia is trying to destroy this connection."

Now that the Russian side has acquired Starlink subscriber equipment, new opportunities arise both for its study and for operation. For example, Russian specialists may well create “replacement” signal reception points, which, during operation, can bring a lot of problems for the Ukrainian military. Technologies implemented on such equipment, which Ukraine uses, among other things, as means of military field communications, can also be used in Russian interests.

The statements of Dmitry Rogozin that the Starlink terminals have become trophies of the Russian troops, Elon Musk has not yet commented.
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    1. +40
      23 January 2023 06: 55
      Somehow, at the beginning of this company, one of the "bloggers" also boasted of similar ... and even showed the "bells and whistles" along with its serial number. As a result, the "bells and whistles", which had previously been excellently supplying our troops with information about the enemy, were "turned off" by that side from the general network and became a "piece of iron" ... More carefully, more carefully
      1. +30
        23 January 2023 07: 19
        For that he boasted and was the first. He has so many followers. Don't care about the rest.
        1. +10
          23 January 2023 07: 45
          It was the first. He has so many followers. Don't care about the rest

          Loot, loot, only loot .. The impudent Saxons taught ...
          1. +26
            23 January 2023 10: 42
            Wounded in the ass while celebrating his birthday, the degenerate again expressed his amazing thoughts. What just prevented him, as the head of Roskosmos, from creating such a connection in our country with gigantic distances, especially since it would be useful to the military? Or is there enough brains only to get to the front-line city with a VIP cortege to celebrate your birthday?
            1. +4
              23 January 2023 12: 11
              Inappropriate pathos. Interfered with the system and lack of availability. Do you personally have a certificate of soundness of mind?
              1. -6
                23 January 2023 19: 01
                Quote: HefeДМБ69
                Inappropriate pathos. Interfered with the system and lack of availability. Do you personally have a certificate of soundness of mind?

                Why should they think? Rogozin is to blame for everything, how cool you can promote it and get likes.
                They do not understand the simplest words - order and financing.
                1. +7
                  23 January 2023 19: 34
                  Tolka is to blame for everything, and Rogozin is just a good guy - he will steer space, he will steer the wolves)) the main thing is not professionalism, but devotion
                  1. +1
                    23 January 2023 20: 33
                    Quote from Sadam2
                    Tolka is to blame for everything, and Rogozin is just a good guy - he will steer space, he will steer the wolves)) the main thing is not professionalism, but devotion

                    Everyone must be responsible for their own. I'm just for the fact that the excess does not need to be hung. Rogoz is not responsible for communications for the army.
                    Only unfortunately jumped off.
                2. -4
                  23 January 2023 20: 30
                  Quote: Ulan.1812
                  Quote: HefeДМБ69
                  Inappropriate pathos. Interfered with the system and lack of availability. Do you personally have a certificate of soundness of mind?

                  Why should they think? Rogozin is to blame for everything, how cool you can promote it and get likes.
                  They do not understand the simplest words - order and financing.

                  Thanks to the cypsos for the minuses. They confirmed what I said. Only cissos are so stupid.
              2. 0
                24 January 2023 18: 49
                We need to either buy for ourselves the opportunity to communicate via Starlink, or deprive Bander of this. Able to do it in ... fried rooster?
                1. 0
                  26 January 2023 10: 35
                  Why buy, you can go there for free to take a trophy. Only he does not work on Russia, satellites are turned off when flying over our territory. Unless somewhere in the border areas it will be possible to use it. But there will already be a violation of Russian law!
            2. +4
              23 January 2023 16: 51
              Quote: ramzay21
              Wounded in the ass while celebrating his birthday, the degenerate again expressed his amazing thoughts. What just prevented him, as the head of Roskosmos, from creating such a connection in our country with gigantic distances, especially since it would be useful to the military?

              What prevented Soviet marshals from giving birth to something better than the combined arms R-105 - which was 1990 years out of date by the 40s?
              The same as Rogozin - lack of brains and elemental base ....
              1. +9
                23 January 2023 17: 47
                In the early 90s, the R-159 was like manure. R-105-109 was shown as a rarity.
            3. -6
              23 January 2023 20: 35
              Quote: ramzay21
              Wounded in the ass while celebrating his birthday, the degenerate again expressed his amazing thoughts. What just prevented him, as the head of Roskosmos, from creating such a connection in our country with gigantic distances, especially since it would be useful to the military? Or is there enough brains only to get to the front-line city with a VIP cortege to celebrate your birthday?

              Oh... the cissoshtk got out. And what is itching for you.
              Do you use Lucy Arestovich's manual?
              1. 0
                24 January 2023 13: 55
                Quote: Ulan.1812
                Quote: ramzay21
                Wounded in the ass while celebrating his birthday, the degenerate again expressed his amazing thoughts. What just prevented him, as the head of Roskosmos, from creating such a connection in our country with gigantic distances, especially since it would be useful to the military? Or is there enough brains only to get to the front-line city with a VIP cortege to celebrate your birthday?

                Oh... the cissoshtk got out. And what is itching for you.
                Do you use Lucy Arestovich's manual?

                The cissoshniks raged. The ideological inspirer Arestovich was given a kick, and now they are angry. And there is nothing to object. negative
            4. 0
              23 January 2023 22: 26
              Under Rogozin, three years without a single accident. And after it - already an accident and the astronauts were stuck in orbit for a year. Roskosmos does not produce electronics, enough to translate the arrows.
              1. -3
                23 January 2023 23: 03
                Quote from dunkan
                Under Rogozin, three years without a single accident. And after it - already an accident and the astronauts were stuck in orbit for a year. Roskosmos does not produce electronics, enough to translate the arrows.

                That's it, and the construction of the second launch pad for Angara-5 and the runway for receiving aircraft is also being completed. For which Borisov proudly reported to the president.
                In addition, the last five launches, these carriers were also produced under Rogozin.
                Of course, he is not the first class, only then there is no need to hang too much on him.
                Communication for the army is clearly not his diocese.
            5. +1
              24 January 2023 01: 54
              So Roskosmos quite successfully participated in the creation of such a network - OneWeb, together with the British. Then the Yankees came in large numbers and banned the project - sanctions and the removal of competition.
          2. +4
            23 January 2023 11: 43
            the fact that the hardware was turned off is normal, it means working. Another thing is whether they can disassemble into microns and reproduce
            1. +7
              23 January 2023 20: 18
              what prevented the same Rogozin from simply buying a terminal to the NWO and studying it until he was blue in the face? it seems to be not secret, it was freely sold ...
              1. 0
                23 January 2023 21: 12
                Quote: Timofey Smagin
                what prevented the same Rogozin from simply buying a terminal to the NWO and studying it until he was blue in the face? it seems to be not secret, it was freely sold ...

                A hundred Rogozin had to study it? I think there are people responsible for this.
          3. +4
            23 January 2023 14: 59
            Quote: The Truth
            It was the first. He has so many followers. Don't care about the rest

            Loot, loot, only loot .. The impudent Saxons taught ...

            Bloggers... Is there at least one with useful info?! BLOCHERS!!!
      2. +6
        23 January 2023 08: 30
        [that
        Quote: svp67
        Somehow, at the beginning of this company, one of the "bloggers" also boasted of similar ... and even showed the "bells and whistles" along with its serial number. As a result, the "bells and whistles", which had previously been excellently supplying our troops with information about the enemy, were "turned off", the other side of the general network became a "piece of iron" ... More carefully, more carefully

        Sounds like gibberish and cat-lamp, considering how Starlink works.
      3. -8
        23 January 2023 09: 25
        And this one will be turned off. "Thanks" to Rogozin. Ukrainians will thank him for this statement. Like little kids...
        1. -3
          23 January 2023 19: 09
          Quote: Kusja
          And this one will be turned off. "Thanks" to Rogozin. Ukrainians will thank him for this statement. Like little kids...

          Are you a liberal? Or are you not used to thinking?
          It has long been clear to normal people that the attack on Rogozin was organized by a liberal swarm.
          We agreed to the point that Rogozin is to blame for the lack of an element base.
          Rogozin is not an angel or a genius, an ordinary official is not one of the worst.
          Incidentally, Deputy Gene. director of Roscosmos for manned flights, twice hero Sergey Krikalev. Are there any complaints about it?
          And why, if there is still no new ship.
          1. -2
            23 January 2023 20: 27
            Quote: Ulan.1812
            Quote: Kusja
            And this one will be turned off. "Thanks" to Rogozin. Ukrainians will thank him for this statement. Like little kids...

            Are you a liberal? Or are you not used to thinking?
            It has long been clear to normal people that the attack on Rogozin was organized by a liberal swarm.
            We agreed to the point that Rogozin is to blame for the lack of an element base.
            Rogozin is not an angel or a genius, an ordinary official is not one of the worst.
            Incidentally, Deputy Gene. director of Roscosmos for manned flights, twice hero Sergey Krikalev. Are there any complaints about it?
            And why, if there is still no new ship.

            Minusator. Thanks for confirming my guess.
          2. 0
            24 January 2023 09: 24
            Krikalev, surrounded by Rogozin, was almost the only cosmonaut, but it seems that under Rogozin, a former colleague of Rogozin’s son with PJSC IL was appointed for manned programs, I forgot his last name, you can easily find it in general. There, this whole "company" has already been noted on the IL 112V project, which failed, and then crashed, killing people. Rogozin bragged on Twitter how he changed a huge number of leaders. Literally how Stalin beheaded the army before the Second World War. Well, instead of investing in a satellite constellation, Rogozin muddied a project with the construction of a huge concrete building where they gathered from all enterprises from Moscow to drive people away and, it seems, even from the Moscow region, what would this lead to - think for yourself. I'm not at all sure that the Rogozin clan is working in the interests of Russia!
            1. 0
              24 January 2023 14: 05
              Quote: Patriot228
              Krikalev, surrounded by Rogozin, was almost the only cosmonaut, but it seems that under Rogozin, a former colleague of Rogozin’s son with PJSC IL was appointed for manned programs, I forgot his last name, you can easily find it in general. There, this whole "company" has already been noted on the IL 112V project, which failed, and then crashed, killing people. Rogozin bragged on Twitter how he changed a huge number of leaders. Literally how Stalin beheaded the army before the Second World War. Well, instead of investing in a satellite constellation, Rogozin muddied a project with the construction of a huge concrete building where they gathered from all enterprises from Moscow to drive people away and, it seems, even from the Moscow region, what would this lead to - think for yourself. I'm not at all sure that the Rogozin clan is working in the interests of Russia!

              Once again, Krikalev, who is Rogozin's deputy, is responsible for manned cosmonautics. What does the head of Roscosmos have to do with the Il-112 and the production of aircraft engines?
              Why did you bring it up at all?
              You are not aware that there is such a structure - the Aircraft Corporation?
              I think a comparison with Stalin for any normal leader is the highest praise.
              Stop reading all sorts of Gozmans and Amnuels.
              Р'РѕС ‚Рё РґСѓРјР ° йте.
          3. 0
            24 January 2023 18: 56
            There is a claim to Krikalev, why the schum did not take off and did not wave its wings.
            But seriously, the Kaganovich brothers were killed for such a dynamo.
            1. 0
              28 January 2023 11: 49
              But by the way, I suppose the reasons for the deplorable state of the manned programs of Roscosmos
              https://tass.ru/ekonomika/6961228
              Someone Alexander Bykov, who worked with the son of Rogozin, headed the manned program at Roscosmos. The company of managers who "proved themselves" in PJSC IL, the "friends" of Aleshenka Rogozin, went to manage at Roscosmos under the leadership of father Aleshenka. The country must know its heroes. What do we have with the manned program now, but no, we will blame everything on Krikalev, who was almost dismissed in general, and only thanks to public outcry did Rogozin fail to "cleanse" the system from specialists. From Ilyushin, all the Rogozinsky managers were eventually "optimized" to hell, it can be seen that there were such valuable personnel.
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      5. +7
        23 January 2023 17: 51
        It's like stealing a neighbor's router. There is access to the network, but passwords from sites are stored elsewhere. And if these passwords are, then you can go from anywhere.
      6. 0
        24 January 2023 00: 02
        ... - and EXPLAIN to me, stupid, about PAYMENTS for "BARS" !!!
        1. 0
          24 January 2023 00: 16
          ... - how "INTERESTING" they are now "excusing" "Vlodimir Solovyov - JEWS", and their deliveries to Ukraine ...
      7. 0
        24 January 2023 10: 30
        so many people don’t rummage around in this, first you need to inspect the device, then think, and then shoot so as not to show what you don’t need if you don’t have editing skills .. The blogger just didn’t think his head, but I think he thought, but it was late )))
      8. 0
        24 January 2023 12: 16
        Often boasters harm the cause. Instead of keeping silent and working, you need to burn down the shop for the sake of hype.
      9. 0
        25 January 2023 02: 29
        svp67 (Sergey) Somehow, at the beginning of this company, one of the "bloggers" also boasted of similar ... and even showed the "bells and whistles" along with its serial number. As a result, the "bells and whistles", which had previously been excellently supplying our troops with information about the enemy, were "turned off" by that side from the general network and became a "piece of iron" ... More carefully, more carefully
        They planted "misinformation", we will cut the loot "for study and application." Learn better nanometers in the product...
    2. +35
      23 January 2023 06: 57
      something is funny to me .. but what prevented you from buying at least a hundred of these terminals in private and studying them even until you are blue in the face ??? .. this is civilian equipment available for free sale, the cost of the kit is about 1000 bucks ...
      1. +6
        23 January 2023 07: 02
        I also asked this question ...... although, this is Rogoz, and this is, respectively, blah, blah, blah.
        1. +1
          23 January 2023 12: 13
          As I.V. Stalin "cadres decide, everything, One Ustinov was worth something. Rogozin is not Ustinov. Yes, there were people ..
        2. -1
          23 January 2023 19: 21
          Quote: Alien From
          I also asked this question ...... although, this is Rogoz, and this is, respectively, blah, blah, blah.

          What does Rogozin have to do with it? Is he responsible for this?
          Who was supposed to do it? Who to order, who to design? Who will finance?
          Whom are you covering, from whom are you deflecting the blow? How much do they pay for this kind of work?
          The task of Roskosmos is to launch a finished product into space on the order of other organizations. Can you make a satellite and pay Roskosmosk to put it into orbit.
          I don’t give a damn about Rogozin, but it’s just that someone has diarrhea, then Rogozin is also to blame. All the best.
          1. +1
            24 January 2023 00: 22
            He doesn't seem to be responsible for anything. Just like that, he sits in a high position and arranges parties
            1. -3
              24 January 2023 14: 07
              Quote: MetalBro
              He doesn't seem to be responsible for anything. Just like that, he sits in a high position and arranges parties

              And it’s not fate to say anything smarter? Why clog the forum.
      2. +5
        23 January 2023 09: 11
        and what prevented you from privately buying at least a hundred of these terminals and studying them even until you are blue in the face ???.

        Maybe it's in the software?
        Specifically, for military needs, one software is installed on starlink, and another for civilians?
        1. +5
          23 January 2023 09: 14
          Quote from stelltok
          and what prevented you from privately buying at least a hundred of these terminals and studying them even until you are blue in the face ???.

          Maybe it's in the software?
          Specifically, for military needs, one software is installed on starlink, and another for civilians?

          The software is the same, it's just an access point to the Internet.
      3. -1
        23 January 2023 20: 26
        Quote: Krilion
        something is funny to me .. but what prevented you from buying at least a hundred of these terminals in private and studying them even until you are blue in the face ??? .. this is civilian equipment available for free sale, the cost of the kit is about 1000 bucks ...

        Ask Manturov Shoigu and the one who is responsible for communications in the Moscow Region.
      4. +2
        23 January 2023 22: 03
        What prevents you from buying a hundred PCs privately, "plugging" them into the Internet and studying the Pentagon's network until you're blue in the face? The lack of access of your PC to this particular network, probably. More, by and large, there (in these terminals) there is nothing to study, the characteristics of the terminals are not labeled.
    3. -5
      23 January 2023 06: 57
      Captured Starlink terminals give our side not only the opportunity to study and operate them, but also the ability to hack and effectively jam.
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        1. AAC
          +7
          23 January 2023 07: 25
          And there is. There is nothing particularly clever in this piece of iron. We also have more advanced technologies. Why are they not used? Well, not all the loot was handed out from the piece of iron of the 80s. I once left several projects when I saw a real, undisguised cut of the dough. In the 10s, they introduced technologies that were passed in Europe in the 70-80s. What for? Well, maybe I'm wrong, because. capacity was sufficient to meet the project's objectives. But this is not a government approach. We need to act for the future. And now we look at the young Musk and admire him. Or they could rivet equipment and sell it. We have a hard time with innovations in cybernetics. Historically, this has been the case.
    4. +2
      23 January 2023 06: 59
      What does a cash device give our specialists? Do we have an element base for copying, a satellite constellation? The principles of operation of this system are known, but how then?
    5. +9
      23 January 2023 07: 00
      Again, this "hero with a wound" is talking nonsense. Any terminal can be remotely disconnected from the network or vice versa, its coordinates can be transferred to anyone. Just like any smartphone.
      1. KCA
        +1
        23 January 2023 08: 02
        The terminal is yes, but with a smartphone it’s more difficult, if it is within the reach of one tower, then it’s impossible to calculate, and even for three the location will be very conditional, you’ll have to hit the area with hail
    6. +15
      23 January 2023 07: 24
      lord Rogozin ... 500 bucks receiver and stolnik per month subscription and they will deliver this starlink to you at the address ... how ridiculous it all is ... and once he puffed out his cheeks on twitter
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      2. -2
        23 January 2023 19: 27
        And why does he need Rogozin? Is he the Minister of Defense?
        Is it Rogozin's task to provide the troops with modern communications?
        Maybe Rogozin is also to blame for the fact that we don’t have aircraft carriers, for example?
    7. +4
      23 January 2023 07: 25
      new opportunities arise both for its study and for its operation. For example, Russian specialists may well create “replacement” signal reception points, which, during operation, can bring a lot of problems for the Ukrainian military.

      You need to learn how to jam them and disable them remotely, and not engage in chatter.
    8. -2
      23 January 2023 07: 28
      Russia would also have a starlink .... if there were no Rogozin
      1. +10
        23 January 2023 09: 57
        Quote: Foundling
        Russia would also have a starlink .... if there were no Rogozin

        ... Chubais, Ivanov, Taburetkin ... (and escho pieces of 20 "effective top managers"!)
        1. -1
          23 January 2023 12: 14
          Cho so modestly counted? I forgot the main one! Or a point not ferrum?
      2. -2
        23 January 2023 14: 59
        But Borisov has already piled it on you.

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      3. -1
        23 January 2023 19: 28
        Quote: Foundling
        Russia would also have a starlink .... if there were no Rogozin

        Rather, if there were no foundlings. You are late, you won’t earn many pluses on Rogozin.
        Switch to someone else.
    9. +3
      23 January 2023 07: 39
      Well, why make such an advertisement, why boast of secrets with the enemy, they are not on the Internet or they do not read the news?
      1. +1
        23 January 2023 15: 08
        Quote: Viktor Grishchenko
        why boast of secrets with the enemy they are not on the Internet or do not read the news?

        This news just appeared on VO.
        And what's the secret?
        The secret will be when serious equipment is captured.
        1. -3
          23 January 2023 23: 14
          Quote: Genry
          Quote: Viktor Grishchenko
          why boast of secrets with the enemy they are not on the Internet or do not read the news?

          This news just appeared on VO.
          And what's the secret?
          The secret will be when serious equipment is captured.

          I think the Ukrainians are well aware of how many terminals they abandoned during the retreat.
          There really is no secret, and for sure, even before the NWO, who needed to buy Starlink terminals abroad. And surely ours are working on a similar system. They don't copy, they make their own.
          We have great specialists. The main order and uninterrupted, sufficient funding.
          1. 0
            24 January 2023 14: 13
            Quote: Ulan.1812
            Quote: Genry
            Quote: Viktor Grishchenko
            why boast of secrets with the enemy they are not on the Internet or do not read the news?

            This news just appeared on VO.
            And what's the secret?
            The secret will be when serious equipment is captured.

            I think the Ukrainians are well aware of how many terminals they abandoned during the retreat.
            There really is no secret, and for sure, even before the NWO, who needed to buy Starlink terminals abroad. And surely ours are working on a similar system. They don't copy, they make their own.
            We have great specialists. The main order and uninterrupted, sufficient funding.

            Hey tsipsoshny minusator, but what - in the case you don’t have enough mind to object? They completely degraded the ukroshumers, except for the fool himself, they can’t bark anything.
    10. +3
      23 January 2023 07: 43
      when the subscriber equipment "Starlink" appeared on the Russian side, new opportunities arise ...
      I agree with the commenters above. And what prevented you from acquiring this terminal privately for a long time and studying it even until you are blue in the face? I understand that then an article without such a conclusion (study, technology ...) would have turned out to be lean.
      1. -4
        23 January 2023 20: 19
        Quote: rotmistr60
        when the subscriber equipment "Starlink" appeared on the Russian side, new opportunities arise ...
        I agree with the commenters above. And what prevented you from acquiring this terminal privately for a long time and studying it even until you are blue in the face? I understand that then an article without such a conclusion (study, technology ...) would have turned out to be lean.

        Done right. Why the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff have not been bought for a long time is completely incomprehensible. Well, SVR of course.
    11. 0
      23 January 2023 07: 45
      I'm watching how colleagues here "celebrate" this "event", which is worthy of an order for Rogozin. And judging by my deleted comment, I remember the proverb raven to raven (journalist to journalist) ... The article is ordered to be seen so that the wounded in ... I repeat in the sense "From the point of view of a techie, this starlink cannot drown out or give us something valuable, so how it is essentially a smartphone in its cell. And this is beneficial once again to the shamefully wounded Rogozin "Is it not Rogozin himself who decided himself here ... ?!
      1. -2
        23 January 2023 20: 17
        Shamefully wounded? And what is shameful wound in the Donbass? Your hemorrhoids obtained from sitting on the couch, of course, are much more honorable.
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        1. Ray
          +9
          23 January 2023 10: 47
          There, about twenty years ago, Sergei Glazyev stirred up the Motherland party, which unexpectedly took 4th place in the elections, pushing down the fair ones. The top of the party is the smart Glazyev, the talkative nat Rogozin and the military Varenikov.
          The locomotive was, of course, Glazyev, his competent program and he unwound his opponents at the debates on TV.
          But after the elections, the unexpected happened: Rogozin gathered the top of the party and expelled Glazyev and General Varennikov. They convened a council, made a decision, gave Glazyev the last word. It didn't have a face.
          And then they announced the accession of the party to Just Russia. During these horse moves, Rogozin immediately became his own in the Kremlin circles and began to receive tidbits of leadership positions from the president one after another. And everything that happened next you yourself know and remember.
          1. -2
            23 January 2023 20: 13
            Quote from Ray
            There, about twenty years ago, Sergei Glazyev stirred up the Motherland party, which unexpectedly took 4th place in the elections, pushing down the fair ones. The top of the party is the smart Glazyev, the talkative nat Rogozin and the military Varenikov.
            The locomotive was, of course, Glazyev, his competent program and he unwound his opponents at the debates on TV.
            But after the elections, the unexpected happened: Rogozin gathered the top of the party and expelled Glazyev and General Varennikov. They convened a council, made a decision, gave Glazyev the last word. It didn't have a face.
            And then they announced the accession of the party to Just Russia. During these horse moves, Rogozin immediately became his own in the Kremlin circles and began to receive tidbits of leadership positions from the president one after another. And everything that happened next you yourself know and remember.

            Didn't Glazyev become his own in the Kremlin circles?
        2. 0
          23 January 2023 14: 17
          lithium17Today
          “Unfortunately, here is precisely the system of Ivanushka the Fool, who, it is not clear how he ended up in the kings!”

          My father was a general, my father-in-law served in foreign intelligence, and he himself rather fell under the attention of the special services, like many others who rose on the wave of perestroika. There are no random people there.
          1. 0
            24 January 2023 06: 25
            And you can add my comment that Rogozin is a showman in style and education with all the ensuing orders in this environment .... The nasty moderator smeared it on the second day! Something I’m looking at here, the military style looks like a blue shell, it seems to be handsome men in uniform, but ..... tongue
      2. -2
        23 January 2023 19: 31
        Quote: KrolikZanuda
        You could just buy it laughing Rogozin is really an idiot?

        In my opinion, other idiots who for some reason decided that it was Rogozin's duty to create means of communication.
        It seems that everyone here who is trying to blame everything on Rogozin has never worked in production.
      3. -2
        23 January 2023 20: 15
        Quote: KrolikZanuda
        You could just buy it laughing Rogozin is really an idiot?

        Why are you sitting ... go buy, you are our genius.
    13. 0
      23 January 2023 08: 16
      Our ingenious manager Rogozin on Mars was going to tell him Musk, who developed StarLink in 3 years and covered the planet with 5 thousand high-speed Internet satellites in 30 years.
    14. 0
      23 January 2023 08: 22
      Rogozin is useful only as a point of attraction for highmars and dot-y missiles. Select closer to LBS, check the attraction of artillery shells
      1. -3
        23 January 2023 20: 10
        Quote: dfk-80
        Rogozin is useful only as a point of attraction for highmars and dot-y missiles. Select closer to LBS, check the attraction of artillery shells

        Don't you want to go there, mister tsipsoshnik?
        1. -1
          24 January 2023 14: 15
          Quote: Ulan.1812
          Quote: dfk-80
          Rogozin is useful only as a point of attraction for highmars and dot-y missiles. Select closer to LBS, check the attraction of artillery shells

          Don't you want to go there, mister tsipsoshnik?

          It's clear you don't want to, it's scary.
    15. 0
      23 January 2023 08: 52
      What did you attack Rogozin? For the first time, a man saw a working space technology, and not an agreement on cutting the budget. Emotions ran high, shared his impressions.
      1. 0
        24 January 2023 00: 43
        ... - ... SORRY. And from the "wh-whether" "chilovek" (who for the first time saw a working space technology" "someone" "appointed"?!! - ... maybe because the "daughter" is in the "pledge" ???
    16. +2
      23 January 2023 09: 02
      And why take these terminals with battles ?! You can just buy somewhere in the states, but torment from as much as you like.
      1. 0
        23 January 2023 09: 16
        Quote: UserGun
        And why take these terminals with battles ?! You can just buy somewhere in the states, but torment from as much as you like.

        You can even not go so far, they are also sold in Finca. More than a million of these terminals have already been produced and they are being shown on the conveyor for everyone to buy. Issue price $500
      2. -1
        23 January 2023 11: 01
        Quote: UserGun
        You can just buy somewhere in the states, but torment from as much as you like.

        This is not our method. smile
    17. Ray
      -4
      23 January 2023 09: 34
      It would be great if this did not come from the lips of Rogozin. Which more often says what he would like than how it really is.
    18. +1
      23 January 2023 10: 43
      What can be studied in civilian-type networking equipment that is sold openly around the world? Mr. Rogozin, steal some HP server and study it...
    19. +3
      23 January 2023 10: 46
      Starlink terminals taken from the positions of Ukrainian troops as trophies give our side the opportunity to study and operate them

      I would not make people laugh, these terminals are freely available for everyone.
      The statements of Dmitry Rogozin that the Starlink terminals have become trophies of the Russian troops, Elon Musk has not yet commented.

      And to myself, I probably thought, "Sho, again a trampoline ?!" :)))
      1. 0
        23 January 2023 11: 36
        He doesn't tease him that much. He will send him a terminal as a gift!
    20. +3
      23 January 2023 12: 18
      The people in the comments were furious. It’s pissing on the main one, but the downed pilot is safe! And like patriotism is shown, a point to karma ...
      1. -3
        23 January 2023 19: 42
        Quote: HefeДМБ69
        The people in the comments were furious. It’s pissing on the main one, but the downed pilot is safe! And like patriotism is shown, a point to karma ...

        You are the only one who got it right.
        It's safe and you can earn pluses.
        So they write all sorts of nonsense and Rogozin had to develop an analogue of Starshin and so on.
        Or maybe he should also design and produce destroyers and tanks and so on?
        Who is generally responsible for supplying the army with everything you need with modern communications?
        Who is obliged to order, who is obliged to finance, who is obliged to produce?
        Rogozin? Or maybe Shoigu, Siluanov and Manturov?
        Office hamsters went berserk who had never seen the machine, but who really want to be promoted.
        1. 0
          25 January 2023 13: 25
          Vashchet in 2011 - 2018 Rogoz was in charge. Deputy Prime Minister for the military-industrial complex, defense orders and all that.
    21. 0
      23 January 2023 12: 38
      It looks like a Rogozinsky trampoline. give it to Dmitry Olegovich, he will figure it out
      1. 0
        23 January 2023 13: 25
        Removed from the tongue. I wanted to write: "Rogozin captured the" trampoline ""
    22. +2
      23 January 2023 13: 34
      Let me remind you that such terminals and the Starlink network itself have not yet been able to repeat not only our specialists, but also all Western countries and China along with them. They are really cool and technologically made. Terminals are sold below cost (the first version had a cost of $1200). Interestingly, there is a full video with comments on the successful hacking of this terminal (you can google it) by just one smart engineer. The code for the main modules of Starlink satellites was posted on GitHub a few years ago officially by Elon. There is only one question. But it was impossible to figure out in advance that the enemy would massively use the Starlink network and work on means of suppression before the start of the NWO? Who overslept everything at work?
      1. 0
        23 January 2023 17: 15
        Quote from Nest
        Let me remind you that such terminals and the Starlink network itself have not yet been able to repeat not only our specialists, but also all Western countries and China along with them. They are really cool and technologically made. Terminals are sold below cost (the first version had a cost of $1200). Interestingly, there is a full video with comments on the successful hacking of this terminal (you can google it) by just one smart engineer. The code for the main modules of Starlink satellites was posted on GitHub a few years ago officially by Elon. There is only one question. But it was impossible to figure out in advance that the enemy would massively use the Starlink network and work on means of suppression before the start of the NWO? Who overslept everything at work?

        They did, only Musk's engineers and programmers are extremely skinny and smart without burdens in the form of armies of effective managers. They multiplied our electronic warfare to zero in terms of effectiveness at lightning speed and effectively repel all new attacks. After the start of the conflict, then he ran around screaming, and we also want the head of the US electronic warfare.
        “The next day [after the media reported attempts to jam the service], Starlink added a line of code and fixed it,” Tremper said. “Suddenly, this [attack] was no longer effective. From the point of view of an electronic warfare technologist, this is fantastic ... and the way they did it amazed me.

        https://www.ixbt.com/news/2022/04/23/v-starlink-oboshli-rossijskie-sistemy-glushenija-sputnikovoj-svjazi-odnoj-strokoj-koda.html

        Therefore, they found a way to jam in advance, implemented it, and then Musk immediately made the method inoperative. Because its specialists work with great speed.
      2. -2
        23 January 2023 19: 45
        Quote from Nest
        Let me remind you that such terminals and the Starlink network itself have not yet been able to repeat not only our specialists, but also all Western countries and China along with them. They are really cool and technologically made. Terminals are sold below cost (the first version had a cost of $1200). Interestingly, there is a full video with comments on the successful hacking of this terminal (you can google it) by just one smart engineer. The code for the main modules of Starlink satellites was posted on GitHub a few years ago officially by Elon. There is only one question. But it was impossible to figure out in advance that the enemy would massively use the Starlink network and work on means of suppression before the start of the NWO? Who overslept everything at work?

        A very valid question. Probably the one who, instead of real affairs, was engaged in biathlon and temples.
        Do not think that the patriarch.
        1. -1
          24 January 2023 09: 35
          And Rogozin was engaged in the ORGANIZATION OF THE FASHION SHOW, posted on Twitter, uploaded his songs to the site.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahWCGM5S8Rg&t=45s
      3. +1
        24 January 2023 00: 58
        ... - You are "outdated" by 50 YEARS, - the "humpbacked" "leaked" "SPIRAL" (like children to school), .... - sold "EKIP", sold "Compression", "Shkval" torpedo, " Dragon", everything is a "bad person", - the Earth to him, and to ALL his relatives, IN ALL GENERATIONS - glassy "
        1. +1
          24 January 2023 01: 11
          ... - wait, "USE normals" WILL RUN ... - "Nautilus Pompilius - During the Rain ..." .. - "Bulat Okudzhava - Union of Friends ..."
    23. -1
      23 January 2023 15: 02
      We also have more advanced technologies. Why are they not used?

      The developers of these technologies produce products in small volumes. They refuse more: - "We developed this, this is our intellectual property, we do not want our competitors to get it." And even CBO is not an argument for them.
    24. +3
      23 January 2023 15: 37
      Another nonsense with a technological bias of the great tsarist master of all sciences and peoples ... they captured the CONSUMABLES - the switchboard and the STARLINK type will fall, and we will jump technologically - he has become an inveterate storyteller and an artist of small and large academic theaters. what
    25. GIS
      -1
      23 January 2023 15: 54
      why is there an article about this "near-minded"?
      I just don’t understand this: they got a trophy, well, study silently .... the blogging brains are completely fucked up
      1. -3
        23 January 2023 19: 49
        Quote: GIS
        why is there an article about this "near-minded"?
        I just don’t understand this: they got a trophy, well, study silently .... the blogging brains are completely fucked up

        Thank God that in Russia there are people as far away as you. Why should Rogozin study this, and not those who are obliged to provide the army with communications and block moisture communications.
        I agree about blogging, sometimes it’s better to be silent.
        Government officials should be banned from doing this.
    26. +3
      23 January 2023 19: 08
      what, find 500-600 bucks for Ross. min. defense, and purely buy for "disassemble" - a big problem? It's been a year since these Starlinks appeared in Ukraine. And in the world - from 2020
      And in fact - there is nothing supernatural in these terminals
      1. -3
        23 January 2023 20: 05
        Quote: Tarasios
        what, find 500-600 bucks for Ross. min. defense, and purely buy for "disassemble" - a big problem? It's been a year since these Starlinks appeared in Ukraine. And in the world - from 2020
        And in fact - there is nothing supernatural in these terminals

        Here... the exact address is Min. Defense and developers.
        And then they settled on Rogozin, and he is no sideways here.
        1. 0
          24 January 2023 09: 28
          That's right, Rogozin was responsible for the development of the domestic satellite communications constellation, and now he is trying to jump off the topic. What does Shoigu have to do with it, is Shoigu responsible for the manufacture of satellites? In the defense industry, by the way, salaries were higher than in Roskosmos, but they wrote that in the Rogozinsky environment, out of 600 employees of the head office of the salary. was 400 tr.
          1. -1
            24 January 2023 14: 49
            Quote: Patriot228
            That's right, Rogozin was responsible for the development of the domestic satellite communications constellation, and now he is trying to jump off the topic. What does Shoigu have to do with it, is Shoigu responsible for the manufacture of satellites? In the defense industry, by the way, salaries were higher than in Roskosmos, but they wrote that in the Rogozinsky environment, out of 600 employees of the head office of the salary. was 400 tr.

            Rogozin was responsible for the development of the satellite constellation?
            Are you serious?
            That is, Rogozin was also responsible for military satellites and meteorological and cartographic, communications satellites, probe satellites, etc.?
            That is, Rogozin had to make a weather satellite, for the money of Roskosmos, launch it, and then come to the meteorologists and say, I just launched a satellite, it spins there in orbit, do you need it?
            No dear, you threw out a few links from the chain.
            Customer-financier-manufacturer-shipment. In this case, this is the launch into orbit and the transfer of the satellite under the control of the customer.
            This is the last task of Roskosmos.
            Each department itself determines how many, which and in what orbits they need satellites. Not Rogozin.
            Military satellites must be ordered by the Ministry of Defense for their own needs. Not Roscosmos.
            And Borisov will not do this either.
            If the Ministry of Defense did not order satellites with the necessary characteristics for their needs, then it is they who are to blame, and not Roskosmos, no matter who is in charge of Rogozin, Borisov or Vasya Pupkin.
            I have worked in real production for forty years, starting from the foreman in the shop, head of the supply department, deputy. director and I know the whole chain from the order, to production, acceptance and shipment.
            Do you think I like Rogozin? Not at all, but I don't like it when people get blamed for something they have nothing to do with. And it doesn’t matter if it’s Rogozin, Manturov, Petrov or Sidorov.
            And here the majority decided to promote on the topic and earn pluses.
            Although the topic is GENERALLY not about Rogozin, but about the captured starlink terminals and, in general, high-quality communications for our army in general.
            A problem that has not been solved for many years and in the NWO again on the same rake.
            But the majority is not interested and does not care, with rare exceptions, which no one reads, although people write the case.
          2. -1
            24 January 2023 15: 58
            Quote: Patriot228
            That's right, Rogozin was responsible for the development of the domestic satellite communications constellation, and now he is trying to jump off the topic. What does Shoigu have to do with it, is Shoigu responsible for the manufacture of satellites? In the defense industry, by the way, salaries were higher than in Roskosmos, but they wrote that in the Rogozinsky environment, out of 600 employees of the head office of the salary. was 400 tr.

            It is Shoigu and his subordinates who are responsible for satellites for the Ministry of Defense.
            Meteorologists are responsible for meteorological satellites and further down the list.
            Do you think that aircraft manufacturers are responsible for the construction of ships?
            No, everyone is responsible for their own area.
    27. 0
      23 January 2023 20: 49
      Starlink terminals are ready-made stations for suppressing satellite Internet. Just a simple program ... Minus - each satellite needs its own station.
    28. +1
      23 January 2023 23: 16
      I wow believe that we have smart guys who will be able to pay off the Mask. Or use. He has no reason to be afraid.
      1. -1
        24 January 2023 15: 52
        Quote from Vashek
        I wow believe that we have smart guys who will be able to pay off the Mask. Or use. He has no reason to be afraid.

        Alas... I'm the only one supporting you here. I also believe that we have smart guys.
    29. +2
      23 January 2023 23: 45
      They (starlinks) began to be sold on a crust back in April
    30. +2
      24 January 2023 01: 20
      Apparently Rogozin was wounded not only in the ass. The terminal can be purchased in the US and Europe for study.
      1. +2
        24 January 2023 16: 52
        The terminal can be purchased in the US and Europe for study.

        In fact, both you and I can buy it on the spot.
        And there is nothing special to study there.
      2. -1
        24 January 2023 17: 20
        Quote: Oleg Apushkin
        Apparently Rogozin was wounded not only in the ass. The terminal can be purchased in the US and Europe for study.

        And where were you injured that you lost the ability to think?
        Why did Rogozin have to purchase a terminal in the US or Europe, and not you, for example?
        Communication for the army, who needed the Moscow Region or Roskosmos?
        Well, at least the minimum ability to think logically should be or not?
        The fact that Rogozin was wounded in the ass was spread by fake throwers.
        In fact, he was wounded in the back and one fragment could not be removed on the spot. They were afraid to hit the spine.
        Therefore, he was taken to Moscow for a second operation.
        I hope you know where the human spine is located?
        Obviously not in the ass. If the wound was in the soft tissues of the priests, then local doctors would have removed it without any problems.
        You can not love a person, but why lie?
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    32. 0
      24 January 2023 12: 42
      Don't forget yet! Rogozin paid his engineers pennies for many years compared to Western ones, how many salaries of engineers in Russia are 40-50 tr. managed to screw it all up! Wasn't this all done deliberately? And maybe it's not the "royal" wolves, but the "British Queen's lions"? And if you sit in the hostile west for a long time, the hostile west may begin to sit in you.
      1. 0
        24 January 2023 14: 56
        Quote: Patriot228
        Don't forget yet! Rogozin paid his engineers pennies for many years compared to Western ones, how many salaries of engineers in Russia are 40-50 tr. managed to screw it all up! Wasn't this all done deliberately? And maybe it's not the "royal" wolves, but the "British Queen's lions"? And if you sit in the hostile west for a long time, the hostile west may begin to sit in you.

        Are Roscosmos engineers designing communication systems? Cool.
        By the way, Roskosmos is a state structure and the employees are paid by the state, not Rogozin.
        Within the allocated Min. Financial Financing.
        Musk is a private entrepreneur and determines how much and to whom to pay.
        Comparing Roskosmos and Musk's structure is somewhat illiterate.
      2. +1
        24 January 2023 16: 50
        Rogozin paid his engineers a penny for many years

        How many years is this? FOUR!
        1. 0
          27 January 2023 11: 57
          It is quite enough that, against the background of the demographic hole, supermortality among pensioners, inflation under 30%, growth in demand from both Western and Russian companies, lead to the erosion of human resources. And before that, it was necessary to urgently save the situation, but he preferred to save people "close" to him. Do you think it's normal when the "top" in the person of Rogozin received as much as 80 lyam in one year, and somewhere in Omsk and now z.p. at 45 tr. for an engineer hangs on the site.
    33. 0
      24 January 2023 16: 24
      But just take and BUY such a terminal in advance, disassemble it and see how it works - Ragozin didn’t guess before, did you have to wait until they were captured like trophies? Or was he sorry for the money?

      Better be silent...
      1. -2
        24 January 2023 17: 08
        Quote from: dump22
        But just take and BUY such a terminal in advance, disassemble it and see how it works - Ragozin didn’t guess before, did you have to wait until they were captured like trophies? Or was he sorry for the money?

        Better be silent...

        Well, as much as you can.
        What does Rogozin have to do with it?
        Because he is Rogozin? And if he were Sidorov?
        Who needs high-quality communication for the Army?
        Rogozin? Is he the Minister of Defense?
        This MO is obliged to provide the army with high-quality communications, and not Roskosmos.
        Well, enough already to pull the owl on the globe.
        1. -1
          25 January 2023 00: 09
          What does Rogozin have to do with it?


          Because he croaked. Who pulled his tongue, why can't he keep silent?
    34. +2
      24 January 2023 16: 44
      What nonsense. This is not f-35 and not abrams. Anyone can buy it.
      Several friends have bought from me. $400 delivery a week and all the cases.
      I must say that the quality of the Internet did not suit anyone.
    35. +2
      24 January 2023 20: 02
      "The Starlink terminals taken from the positions of Ukrainian troops as trophies give our side the opportunity to study and operate them"
      .
      But it was impossible to buy a hundred pieces in the spring of 22?
    36. 0
      24 January 2023 20: 10
      "I must say that the quality of the Internet did not suit anyone." The mask is normal, everything suits him, he does not complain)))
    37. -1
      24 January 2023 21: 13
      I can't read anything about Rogozin. Hero with a wound.
    38. +1
      25 January 2023 15: 58
      Well, where or on what, for example, will we do this Starlink? And from what? We are silent about something else
      captured high-tech equipment.
    39. 0
      27 January 2023 09: 15
      Quote: Ulan.1812
      Are Roscosmos engineers designing communication systems? Cool.
      By the way, Roskosmos is a state structure and the employees are paid by the state, not Rogozin.
      Within the allocated Min. Financial Financing.
      Musk is a private entrepreneur and determines how much and to whom to pay.
      Comparing Roskosmos and Musk's structure is somewhat illiterate.

      1. Yes, Roscosmos engineers are engaged in the creation of satellite communication systems, this is their direct responsibility.
      2. Employees are not paid by the state, employees are paid by the direct employer, OJSC, LLC, Federal State Unitary Enterprise, Research Institute. How much to pay is decided by the managers appointed by Rogozin. Judging by the z.p. from websites these are "beggarly" salaries, while managers do not forget themselves, this can be seen from open data. Or do you think that it is a great honor to work for Rogozin and people should spend 5 years of university and 5 years to gain experience so that rosy-cheeked appointees and "daddy's sons" in Western foreign cars with drivers in the office play computers and give commands to ride? And all these "fashion shows", the constant clowning and circus on Twitter, PR instead of work when they break the planned launch schedules and send the actress to shoot an unnecessary movie for anyone, all this has a demoralizing effect on specialists. It is a shame to work under mediocrity and a rogue.

      3. From the point of view of the result for the commercial market, everything is correct. Both Musk and Rogozin compete for almost the same human resources, there are still many enterprises in this market that offer adequate salaries. The result was a shortage of personnel in the domestic industry and success in the western one. But Rogozin himself boasted of how to change almost 90% of top managers. Obviously formed his clan to fight for power!

      All this policy of beggarly salaries throughout the "PRINCIPAL" of Rogozin and his hired managers led to a complete loss of competencies. An engineer capable of creating high-tech products will not work for the Rogozins, due to the fact that he must be well educated. this is a criterion of his suitability for this kind of work, there is a demand for him even without going abroad. Defense enterprises offer much better conditions than Rogozin could create, and we are not even talking about commercial ones! Constant corruption scandals at enterprises confirm the complete mediocrity of Rogozin Sr. as a manager, and the crashed IL 112 of Rogozin Jr. Conclusions were not drawn. We are seeing the results of this personnel policy.

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