Pictures of the Russian Lancet drone appeared on the Web, allegedly failing to hit the Crab self-propelled guns of the Armed Forces of Ukraine because of the “anti-drone” grid

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Pictures of the Russian Lancet drone appeared on the Web, allegedly failing to hit the Crab self-propelled guns of the Armed Forces of Ukraine because of the “anti-drone” grid

Loitering ammunition "Lancet", used by the Russian military to destroy the artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, has recently begun to cause many problems to the enemy. The use of electronic warfare systems, anti-aircraft systems and small arms against them weapons they did not bring success and another means was invented - the so-called "anti-drone nets", which are stretched over equipment or weapons. The first reports of such UAV countermeasures appeared in December last year.

On Russian Internet resources, photos of the Ukrainian Crab self-propelled howitzer appeared, over which the crew pulled a metal mesh in order to counter Russian UAVs. Reportedly, the grid saved the self-propelled guns from the loitering ammunition "Lancet-3". The photo shows a drone stuck in the net and not reaching the artillery mount itself. Where these pictures were taken and when, there is no information.



Earlier, Ukrainian resources repeatedly reported that "Russian Drones". Pictures were also posted with these same nets stretched over weapons. As emphasized, the photos were taken at the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the time and place are not indicated. In particular, it was shown how Ukrainian artillerymen tried to cover the American M777 howitzer with the help of such a net.

The effectiveness of such protection is unknown, since most nets are not metal, but ordinary camouflage. In the case of the Polish self-propelled guns, a metal mesh was used, it was she who stopped the Russian Lancet. Earlier, Ukrainian resources distributed footage of two Russian drums drones "Lancet-3M", allegedly stuck in a camouflage net stretched over a tank T-72M APU. It is possible that it was these pictures that prompted the Ukrainians to use the mesh as a protective tool.

These kinds of shots could be just another Ukrainian production with fragments of a Russian drone hung in advance under the net.
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    1. +7
      22 January 2023 18: 01
      The warhead lancet needs more power. And it’s better to make a two-stage lancet, first it flies on a propeller, then a stage separates above the target and the solid-propellant engine accelerates the rocket to high speed.
      1. +26
        22 January 2023 18: 05
        It will be too expensive for a kamikaze.
        1. +10
          22 January 2023 18: 34
          More expensive than a tank or an infantry fighting vehicle / armored personnel carrier with a crew?
          1. +21
            22 January 2023 18: 44
            More expensive for mass production, that is, the economy. Otherwise, each tank would have been beaten with an Iskander, just to be sure. No need for this populism about crews. hi
            1. +5
              22 January 2023 19: 07
              Then there is no need for speculation with a comparison of the "Lancet" and "Iskander" - they cost slightly different money.
              1. +2
                22 January 2023 20: 22
                What speculation?! You yourself raised the issue of price, only I thought you were talking about the lives of the fighters.
                1. 0
                  22 January 2023 21: 13
                  The lives of fighters during hostilities also have a very specific dimension. That is why the Iskanders you mentioned are not launched against a single infantryman and even a tank. But the Lancet and even two, and even with certain improvements, still cost less than a tank and a trained crew, and even just a tank if it is in the parking lot. And your twitching about the Iskanders for each tank is just speculation.
          2. -1
            22 January 2023 19: 56
            Quote: UAZ 452
            More expensive than a tank or an infantry fighting vehicle / armored personnel carrier with a crew?

            Alternatively, it’s cheaper if a tank or an infantry fighting vehicle / armored personnel carrier with a crew can hit our soldiers ... Don’t you take this into account?
            1. +1
              22 January 2023 21: 17
              Are you answering me? So that's exactly what I'm writing about. It is my opponent who believes that the upgraded Lancets are too expensive for us. Well, yes, if our analog net workers take it, then billions of money will be spent, and there will either not be a serial product, or it will not meet its intended purpose. But that's another question, not on the topic of the article.
          3. +5
            23 January 2023 08: 43
            Quote: UAZ 452
            More expensive than a tank or an infantry fighting vehicle / armored personnel carrier with a crew?

            The "Lacet" in the picture has two wings.
            The real Lancet has EIGHT.
            The one in the picture is definitely cheaper. And not everyone can determine what kind of model it is. It is possible that some kind of self-propelled gun, which is cheaper than the mesh in which it got stuck. Or Ukrainian production.
            1. 0
              23 January 2023 12: 13
              It's the Lancet! Here, firstly, the rear part, with an electric motor, and secondly, two planes were clearly torn off during the explosion. Last week there was a video from the front line, where this self-propelled guns were beaten with a Lancet. At first they indicated that the Polish Crab, then they made an adjustment - self-propelled guns of domestic development. The lancet flew from behind, under the net and worked properly, but due to a weak warhead it did not cause proper damage. On the video you can clearly see that the SAUshka is under the net.
        2. +14
          22 January 2023 18: 36
          This is never a lancet. They put some kind of crap and took a picture. soldier
          1. +10
            22 January 2023 19: 19
            Quote: Dmitry Donskoy
            Lancet"


            I agree it doesn't look like
            1. +2
              22 January 2023 19: 27
              Yes, it looks like they collected the remains of various products and - you will allegedly get a LANCET!
            2. +6
              22 January 2023 19: 51
              Quote: Havoc
              I agree it doesn't look like

              What cardboard, "adhesive tape" and fantasy was enough for - then they blinded it. Be forgiving...
              1. +11
                22 January 2023 21: 47
                especially cool: what hardened and sharpened metal are the thruster wings made of, that they cut through the chain-link mesh without scratches? The wings are like brand new .... kindergarten manual creativity.
                1. +6
                  22 January 2023 23: 01
                  Quote: Fisherman
                  especially cool: what hardened and sharpened metal are the thruster wings made of, that they cut through the chain-link mesh without scratches? Wings are like new....kindergarten manual creativity.

                  I agree with you. The wings, in the first place, were supposed to fly off or ruffle into cabbage with the resistance of the metal mesh, but here it feels as if this stray broke through into the sky from below, and not vice versa. No nicks, no dents... No.
                  PS There was information that banderlogs were paid bonuses for downed drones, so along the way they are dragging around with the spare parts found, making "attachments" either to the grid or "to the fence" in order to raise the premium Yes
                2. +3
                  23 January 2023 02: 27
                  Quote: Fisherman
                  kindergarten manual creativity

                  Zhytomyr City House of Pioneers. Aircraft club.
                  Again, someone stole a flat file ...
            3. +8
              22 January 2023 20: 28
              Quote: Havoc
              I agree it doesn't look like

              And he was flying backwards?? Stretch it from the net and branches at hand and put your car there. Further on, from the fifth floor, at least throw a weight of 10 kg. Will it fly? Will the net stop the weight? Is there at least one who will decide on such an experiment with his car? If so, please post a video.
              1. -2
                23 January 2023 13: 53
                Further on, from the fifth floor, at least throw a weight of 10 kg. Will it fly? Will the net stop the weight? Is there at least one who will decide on such an experiment with his car? If yes, please post a video.

                there are already a lot of videos with lancets. they approach the target at an angle of 30 degrees to the horizon. your kettlebell comes in at 90 degrees.
                your same kettlebell, tied to the wings and with a 30-degree approach, can also get tangled in the net. You don't need much - just hook a little wing.
                and than - why make a fake out of the fact that the lancet did not work ?!
                will it somehow shake someone's foundations and attitudes?
            4. 0
              23 January 2023 13: 46
              I agree it doesn't look like

              what is not so?
              very similar. you can see three wings from one "X", the fourth wing is torn off, the mount is looking right at us. the back part with the "second X" of the four wings is torn off.
              .
              Behind these nets and armored tank visors is the future, with an eye to the past.
          2. 0
            23 January 2023 13: 50
            https://topwar.ru/199506-barrazhirujuschie-boepripasy-lancet-v-specoperacii.html
        3. Hog
          +3
          22 January 2023 21: 56
          Quote: Andrey Moskvin
          It will be too expensive for a kamikaze.

          A small powder booster and a few squibs for shooting, the price will not be raised much.
        4. +1
          23 January 2023 09: 12
          Now in the first place it is combat effectiveness and reliability, the price is already a secondary factor, if in the process of combat use it turns out that a particular weapon is not effective enough, then it is either modified to achieve the required characteristics, or replaced with a similar, but more effective and reliable even though it will cost more.
          1. 0
            23 January 2023 16: 37
            The pictures are new, and the topic with this "lancet" was already raised a couple of months ago and also tangled in the grid. Maybe the author of the note just now got it?
      2. +13
        22 January 2023 18: 08
        Energy sensor and all. Should work when slowing down. Will not have time to dodge the target because of the grid. Destroy the charge. It's just not clear whether it will break through the armor at a distance
        1. +4
          22 January 2023 18: 15
          Forgive me, I didn't understand anything at all.
          1. 0
            22 January 2023 18: 32
            Quote: Andrey Moskvin
            Forgive me, I didn't understand anything at all.

            The film "Speed" (Jan de Bonta) 1994
            1. -1
              22 January 2023 19: 18
              Quote: Clear
              The film "Speed" (Jan de Bonta) 1994
              It's better to watch the movie 37,2º in the morning wink
        2. +2
          22 January 2023 18: 32
          Quote: Argon
          Energy sensor and all. Should work when slowing down.

          Maybe everything is much simpler, the lancet operator has a button with the inscription "BA-BACH"?
          By the way, the picture does not show where the head of the projectile went. Maybe just a defective projectile ???
          1. +1
            22 January 2023 19: 23
            Guessing is useless. The words "Allegedly" and "Kaba" are not at all the topic here. One grid was pulled, others started allegedly. Well, it didn’t work - so you need to study, upgrade. And then the "alleged people" jumped in.
        3. 0
          22 January 2023 18: 36
          It will not break through the armor, but it will break the mesh, and the UAV can be sent in pairs - the cost of the destroyed vehicle will cover the cost of two drones. In addition, the first can be charged even without the ability to penetrate armor - a grid and which is simpler enough.
      3. +16
        22 January 2023 18: 32
        Well, in the photo is the back of the Lancet, I wonder where the front is from the warhead.
        1. +10
          22 January 2023 19: 05
          And it’s also interesting how he could seep through the cells of the chain-link.
          1. +5
            22 January 2023 19: 09
            More interesting is why, with its mass and speed, it got stuck in it (the wings would simply come off), if this is not a staged photo at all, in order to load our fighters with useless work on the construction of such a wire fortification.
          2. +8
            22 January 2023 19: 57
            Quote from Valiko
            And it’s also interesting how he could seep through the cells of the chain-link.

            In 2001, when a Boeing hit the Pentagon, it crawled into a hole with a diameter of five meters and, in a fire of scattered papers, not only burned out, but even the engines evaporated.

            So Svidomo has more to learn from the Boss.
            1. 0
              23 January 2023 09: 19
              In general, the plane after meeting with the building collapses into very small pieces. And taking into account the folding of skyscrapers, it is generally unclear what will remain there.
              1. +1
                23 January 2023 10: 11
                You are talking about the Pentagon, you are talking about skyscrapers. In skyscrapers, it is clear that there is little left of the aircraft, everything was ground when the skyscrapers took shape. But the Pentagon didn't collapse. A hole in the wall - okay, from the fuselage. And the traces of the wings and engines, where are the engines themselves? The engines have very high-strength and heat-resistant parts, very well fastened together. After any impact on the ground and the accompanying fire, the engines remain monolithic. They are distorted, the skin and outer body kit are torn off, but the engine itself almost always remains a single whole. A plane crashed into the Pentagon? Perhaps. Where are his engines?
                1. 0
                  24 January 2023 06: 02
                  Quote: Gregory_78
                  You are talking about the Pentagon, you are talking about skyscrapers. In skyscrapers, it is clear that there is little left of the aircraft, everything was ground when the skyscrapers took shape. But the Pentagon didn't collapse. A hole in the wall - okay, from the fuselage. And the traces of the wings and engines, where are the engines themselves? The engines have very high-strength and heat-resistant parts, very well fastened together. After any impact on the ground and the accompanying fire, the engines remain monolithic. They are distorted, the skin and outer body kit are torn off, but the engine itself almost always remains a single whole. A plane crashed into the Pentagon? Perhaps. Where are his engines?

                  Exactly the same thing and I.

                  At first, only the lazy would not write this. For example https://masterok.livejournal.com/4637767.html
                  I myself have read Thierry Meyssan.
                  Now the information field in the United States has been cleaned up, with such questions no one sticks out.
                  If the head sticks out higher than the others, then it is easy to grab it to unscrew it.
                  And Kennedy was killed by "Soviet agent" Oswald ... laughing laughing laughing
      4. +4
        22 January 2023 18: 35
        Quote: Lt. air force reserve
        And it’s better to make a two-stage lancet, first it flies on a propeller, then a stage separates above the target and the solid-propellant engine accelerates the rocket to high speed.

        There are such proposals ... but at high speed, "manual" television guidance (television-command ...) is difficult ... it is necessary to use the GOS, and this makes the Lancet more expensive! Although, television combined guidance ("manual" TV guidance + TV.GOS) has been around since the Vietnam War! You can use a SPS warhead ("impact core") and a proximity fuse (as they sometimes say now, "pre-contact" ... in some reports, such an explosion is mentioned for the Lancet high-explosive fragmentation warheads!). It is possible to use a "telescopic" tungsten pin (and even with a "leader") before the main charge!
        1. 0
          23 January 2023 10: 28
          It is optimal to make Lancet 4 or Lancet 5, similar in characteristics to the Israeli Harop. With a larger warhead than the Lancet 3, with the ability to return if a worthy target is not found. Of course, it is impractical to put very good optics on such a drone. The Israelis can do this - they use this drone more as a reconnaissance drone, in the conditions of the almost complete absence of MANPADS and air defense systems. And for the operational destruction of air defense systems in the event of their appearance. In their conditions, such a drone fully justifies itself. But in the presence of a large number of MANPADS from the enemy, this is closer to firing a cannon at sparrows. It is better to have a powerful attack drone separately and a good reconnaissance one separately.
      5. +5
        22 January 2023 18: 42
        You just need more lancets - one did not hit so the second will hit. And no self-propelled guns can withstand getting where they need to
      6. 0
        22 January 2023 19: 05
        Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
        The warhead lancet needs more power. And it’s better to make a two-stage lancet, first it flies on a propeller, then a stage separates above the target and the solid-propellant engine accelerates the rocket to high speed.

        Maybe it's easier to add a radio fuse?
      7. 0
        22 January 2023 19: 08
        Quote: Lt. air force reserve
        And it's better to make a two-stage lancet,
        it is easier to additionally put a magnetic fuse, or a self-destruct fuse.
      8. +4
        22 January 2023 19: 19
        judging by the location of the fragment "tail down" and the absence of fragments with penetration of the grid - setting
      9. -2
        22 January 2023 21: 42
        You need a warhead - an impact core, (like NLAV with tantalum) and remote detonation in case of loss of speed, deviation ..
      10. 0
        23 January 2023 12: 40
        Let's have a Kalash more powerful than 12,6 mm, and in an RPG a 10 kilogram grenade.
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    2. +6
      22 January 2023 18: 02
      The solution is simple, the charge is an impact core and / or a fragmentation mine and a remote detonation to the grid using a laser / acoustic rangefinder. Cheap and angry.
      1. +5
        22 January 2023 18: 43
        Duc is an undermined lancet, only the tail remains
    3. +3
      22 January 2023 18: 02
      The Lancet operator turned out to be not very experienced. There is already a video when the operator sends the Lancet under the net and the attacked object is fucked. They will have to put the net on all sides. Yes, and us too.
    4. +2
      22 January 2023 18: 03
      Let's see if the Armed Forces of Ukraine start to MASSIVELY pull such nets, then most likely the method is working, BUT for every tricky 5 point there is always a left-hand thread, the eternal confrontation between armor and projectile continues.
      1. +2
        22 January 2023 18: 31
        Quote: Murmur 55
        Let's see if the Armed Forces of Ukraine start to MASSIVELY stretch such networks, then most likely the method is working,

        How many have seen the video about the work of the lancet, so the attack on everyone is not from above, but almost parallel to the ground. and it is not clear why suddenly the Operator could not blow up the lancet? most likely a banal marriage and the fuse did not work. and the grid has nothing to do with it.
        1. 0
          22 January 2023 18: 38
          If it had worked without reaching the armor, then there would have been little sense from its undermining - it would have scorched the paint.
          1. 0
            22 January 2023 18: 44
            And he didn't work? It seems that the lancet looks a little different, in the photo at most a third of it
            1. +1
              22 January 2023 19: 12
              In my opinion, the weight and speed of the "Lancet" generally excludes it from getting stuck on the chain-link. Perhaps the photo was staged initially, so that our fighters were engaged in nonsense and in vain hoped for this grid.
              1. +3
                22 January 2023 20: 39
                Judging by the distance from the grid to the self-propelled gun, the lancet is either stuck in the self-propelled gun, or the fake is galim. The lancet has a length of almost one and a half meters, in the net the tail only remained forty centimeters long. On a tangent, it may have gone somewhere into the track roller and that's it. Or fake
    5. -18
      22 January 2023 18: 05
      Shame! It was necessary to provide for such an option and install the function of self-destruction of the drone if it cannot reach the goal.
    6. +3
      22 January 2023 18: 06
      First, it's not a lancet. Secondly, he still detonated.
      1. 0
        22 January 2023 18: 14
        I also suspect that it doesn’t look like a lace, but I thought maybe it was deformed and the nose part just came off and the detonator didn’t work because of this.
      2. +3
        22 January 2023 18: 52
        This is Lancet 3m: https://avia.pro/news/opublikovano-pervoe-foto-rossiyskogo-udarnogo-bespilotnik-lancet-3m.
        They write that they have been using it since the summer. Warhead 5 kg.
        and I think that after the explosion of 5 kg of explosives, there would be little left.
    7. 0
      22 January 2023 18: 08
      An interesting solution to the UAV problem. But there must be an entrance, which means there must be meticulous intelligence, and then an attack.
      1. +15
        22 January 2023 18: 18
        the entrance should be
        The Gestapo blocked all exits, but Stirlitz left through the entrance. lol
    8. +6
      22 January 2023 18: 18
      This Lancet carries 5kg of explosives. Even if the grid stopped him, the explosion must be strong, and the surface of the self-propelled guns is clean ... How can this be?
      1. +2
        22 January 2023 18: 45
        For example, there was no self-propelled gun under the net, or the jet passed by
        1. +1
          22 January 2023 22: 03
          Quote from alexoff
          For example, there was no self-propelled gun under the net, or the jet passed by

          This is after the beer jet can pass by.
      2. 0
        22 January 2023 19: 46
        How can this be?

        Maybe if there was no explosion.
        If there is no inertial (correct, so that it does not react to branches) fuse and / or self-liquidator, which turns on after entering the target destruction mode ....
    9. +13
      22 January 2023 18: 24
      Getting stuck in the grid is just fake. .Its only purpose is, if possible, to initiate the detonation earlier in order to reduce the efficiency of the cumulative. The lancet is like a brick that has flown in from the 17th floor. I saw how a brick from the 5th floor flashed through a passenger car without resistance at all, like an awl. . The mesh will hold the lancet if it is carefully placed on it.
      1. +1
        22 January 2023 18: 54
        As a child, we threw a crowbar from the roof of a nine-story building into the "Zaporozhets" to a harmful neighbor, he pierced it through and through, also entering the asphalt. And if this crowbar is at a speed of 1800m / s.? This is me about sub-caliber.
        1. 0
          22 January 2023 20: 03
          Yes, but the drone is still not a scrap, it may make sense to make the nose part pointed and heavy-duty and with special heavy-duty blades capable of destroying protective nets and other defensive structures, the wings are also superfluous elements at the final stage of the attack, in short, there is something to do think about what to improve.
          1. 0
            22 January 2023 20: 29
            There was also a "tsat" years ago about Hellfires with blades, without warheads.
    10. -2
      22 January 2023 18: 26
      This at least suggests that the threat of lancets is perceived by the enemy as very serious. This is not the first ersatz defense against them.
    11. KCA
      +3
      22 January 2023 18: 28
      The Lancets have X-shaped plumage in front and behind and in front of the GOS, and they put something of their own
      1. +5
        22 January 2023 18: 35
        Just the same, this apparatus has an X-shaped. You can see where the wings are attached.
        1. KCA
          0
          22 January 2023 20: 01
          I see only two wings and they are located in the same plane, there is something similar to the attachment of another wing, but I can’t make it out exactly, but for some reason it is perpendicular to the surviving two, which doesn’t look like an X-shaped scheme, why do the surviving wings different geometry, size and color?
      2. +2
        22 January 2023 19: 04
        There is also a Lancet-3m, front and rear plumage of different sizes.
    12. +3
      22 January 2023 18: 31
      There are some doubts that the grid coped. There is no half of the drone. It most likely still detonated, but at a distance from the howitzer armor. Where is the photo of the place of arrival? If there had been a scratch, they would certainly have boasted.
    13. +3
      22 January 2023 18: 31
      The fuse must be contact and from the deceleration sensor. In general, the operation of such drones in pairs suggests itself. As a rule, there is a car with ammunition near the gun. Or if, after the first drone hits, the second calculation will no longer scatter. Trained gunners are a great value. In the video, almost always after the impact, the calculation climbs out through the hatches and scatters in different directions until the ammunition explodes. The impact of the second drone and there is no calculation.
      1. 0
        22 January 2023 18: 36
        More than once there was a video of the couple working. Moreover, both a sequential attack and control of the second consequences.
        1. +2
          23 January 2023 08: 44
          I did not see the video of the serial attack. I always thought that objective control comes from a reconnaissance drone, which transmits the coordinates to the Lancet operator.
      2. -3
        22 January 2023 18: 42
        Trained gunners are a great value.

        Still, our generals would know about this, who were mobilized, trained as artillerymen, sent to the infantry (I read about it here on VO).
    14. 0
      22 January 2023 18: 37
      and the drone does not have self-destruction after the command to enter the target ?????
    15. +7
      22 January 2023 18: 38
      Well, how did this so-called "Lancet" crawl through the metal mesh? There is not even a hole in the grid. As I didn’t guess, it leaked through the mesh cells.
      1. -1
        22 January 2023 18: 57
        our teleporter was put on it, so that it would pass through obstacles laughing
    16. -2
      22 January 2023 18: 38
      the grid saved the self-propelled guns from the loitering ammunition "Lancet-3". The photo shows a drone stuck in the net and not reaching the artillery mount itself.

      Tsipsoshnikov again came up with something winked
      1. 0
        22 January 2023 18: 59
        Well, it is necessary to maintain the fighting spirit of the Sumerians. Cheap, they say, and angry. And the Russians again lost to Ukrainian high technology in the form of a grid.
    17. -3
      22 January 2023 18: 44
      Against the grid, wings can be made into blades in principle, they are disposable anyway ....
      1. 0
        23 January 2023 09: 23
        And if the mesh is made of metal or carbon threads???
    18. +13
      22 January 2023 18: 47
      Damn, adults, and you can breed all the commentators like children. Shame on all of the above.
      The usual TsIPSOshnaya work: a fragment of a drone is hung on a chain-link mesh from the nearest garden, and yells at the top of its lungs, "Here is such a piece of shit and sticks that you can neutralize the vaunted Lancet!" And it is thrown as a practical observation both to the enemy and to their own housewives, who also salivate with joy, "As our lads defeat Russia!" .
      Propaganda like drawing Z's on broken vehicles is done on the knee and, as I see it, is very effective.
      Russian commentators seriously believed it.
      1. 0
        22 January 2023 19: 49
        What are you wondering about them, their rockets are shot down by a jar of cucumbers.
      2. +4
        22 January 2023 19: 55
        I would add that the usual TsIPSOshnaya hack.
    19. -3
      22 January 2023 18: 51
      Cheap and cheerful, BUT only on the defensive. The equipment instantly turns into a fixed pillbox and will not go anywhere. To weld on these grids of such dimensions to protect all projections and to drive more, goodbye to camouflage, mobility, patency.
    20. +10
      22 January 2023 18: 56
      judging by the photo, clean water
      the mesh above it is intact, the wooden supports are the same, and it somehow looks a little like a lancet
      another "border" post
      1. 0
        26 January 2023 02: 51
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        judging by the photo, clean water
        the mesh above it is intact, the wooden supports are the same, and it somehow looks a little like a lancet
        another "border" post

        Agree with you 100%!
    21. 0
      22 January 2023 19: 12
      i'm not an expert, but obviously .. this is the back of a drone from uvision))) thanks everyone
    22. 0
      22 January 2023 19: 12
      The fuse needs a radio contact to react to metal, overload and impact. And all will be well soldier
    23. +2
      22 January 2023 19: 24
      The lancet needs a warhead like a cornet. then we'll give a light to all sorts of ravings and cougars
      1. 0
        22 January 2023 19: 39
        Then it is necessary to launch the next lancet in the series. I looked for information because I myself do not know. And it turns out that the cornet has a warhead mass of 7 kg with a weight of 4,6 kg, and the lancet has a warhead of 5 kg. So the drone needs to be bigger.
      2. 0
        23 January 2023 09: 29
        This is called tandem ammunition, the first part of it destroys the elements of protection, and the second one hits the target in the same unprotected place.
    24. 0
      22 January 2023 19: 44
      It would be necessary for our designers to urgently finalize kamikaze drones and come up with methods to counteract such protection, for example, some kind of tandem warhead, the first warhead will destroy defenses, and the second, following immediately after the first, will hit the target itself.
      1. 0
        22 January 2023 19: 48
        Quote: sgrabik
        opposition to such protection

        what kind of protection?
        you look at the photo, did you have an incomprehensible drone made its way through a 5 centimeter cell?
        1. +1
          22 January 2023 20: 10
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          Quote: sgrabik
          opposition to such protection

          what kind of protection?
          you look at the photo, did you have an incomprehensible drone made its way through a 5 centimeter cell?

          And back to front. wink
          1. +2
            22 January 2023 20: 41
            as I could, I made my way, do not pester the drone
    25. 0
      22 January 2023 19: 45
      Quote: Ile Ham
      Yes, it looks like they collected the remains of various products and - you will allegedly get a LANCET!

      For them, the main principle of people hawala and okay.
    26. +1
      22 January 2023 19: 47
      Well, at what height and with what effort should the camouflage net be stretched to prevent the target from touching and triggering the fuse? Most likely this is either a golem postovuha, or simply a Lancet with a marriage that did not work ..
    27. 0
      22 January 2023 20: 04
      Yes, this is most likely a normal marriage. You might think that none of the military or "diggers" heard or saw such a phenomenon as an "unexploded shell." Any weapon and device can break or malfunction. I don't see anything strange in these photos. normal realities of war.
    28. 0
      22 January 2023 20: 10
      It is enough to install a self-liquidator that would work at zero speed.
    29. 0
      22 January 2023 20: 14
      And why "allegedly" failed to hit the self-propelled guns, if we all see that the target was not hit. Why the warhead did not explode when it hit the net is silent. Probably successfully hit her head in the hole and did not detonate.
    30. 0
      22 January 2023 20: 38
      Did he fly in backwards? Where are the missing fragments?
      1. 0
        22 January 2023 20: 42
        and the absence of a hole in the grid does not surprise you, only the flight of the booty forward, but the fact that this structure is made of ... and sticks will collapse if a lancet flies into it at a speed of 80 km, but by some miracle it also does not surprise you?

        in short, the film studio named after Banderovich's snot in action
    31. 0
      22 January 2023 20: 42
      I am confused by a branch stuck between the wings. Version - the Lancet detonated, catching on a tree - its front part was burned. Dill then dragged the remains to his cannon and took a selfie.
    32. +2
      22 January 2023 20: 44
      Well, it’s very similar to a fake, the mesh is whole, the drone didn’t shatter into pieces from the explosion, and how did it crawl under the mesh?
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    34. 0
      22 January 2023 20: 59
      A long bundle of colored wires hangs to the side. What is it for?
    35. 0
      22 January 2023 21: 23
      These kinds of shots could be just another Ukrainian production with pre-mixed fragments of a Russian drone under the net.

      And with exactly the same probability they can be true.

      Well, and besides, this is not a Lancet-3, compare with the photo on the manufacturer's website.
      1. -3
        22 January 2023 21: 36
        Quote: Ohsetin
        And with exactly the same probability they can be true.

        for this stage directors still study and study, so far, that the level of the provincial recreation center
    36. +2
      22 January 2023 21: 48
      Recently, in a story about our kamikaze drones, it was said that they were setting up a "self-destruct mode." So if the drone did not hit the target, it should explode after a certain period of time.
    37. -1
      22 January 2023 22: 47
      Russia can increase the power of the Lancet. Create a special RPG-7. Attach this RPG to the Lancet. The RPG can be controlled in two modes: operator or programmed distance. This will increase the power of the Lancet.
      1. -3
        23 January 2023 00: 54

        Fantastic, there is already a development - a drone destroyer or a flying carbine. They were not accepted into service, they did not pass the approbation. So in my opinion, your idea with the RPG-7 is doomed to failure.
        1. -1
          23 January 2023 06: 51
          The RPG-7 plus Lancet together act as a tandem warhead used to defeat special armor in battle tanks. We need a way to get this combination up in the air. A giant quadcopter can be used to launch this combo.
      2. 0
        23 January 2023 11: 28
        Good topic with a flying RPG-7 laughing
        After shooting from a dive, the drone automatically goes to the base and to a new application!
    38. +1
      23 January 2023 06: 41
      I just don’t understand one thing, why is there no self-destruction function in case of an unsuccessful attack? Why give the enemy almost a whole drone?
      1. 0
        23 January 2023 12: 12
        It looks like there is.
        Self-liquidator - low-power charge. So it worked, destroying the warhead and guidance system. The rest they brought under the grid.
    39. +5
      23 January 2023 08: 39
      The first thing that came to mind when looking at this photo was:
      1 Where is the hole from this UAV in the grid? Judging by the fact that it was also deployed, there should be a decent hole there
      2 Where are the remains of the wings and pieces of the UAV?
      3 Judging by the fact that this is a metal mesh, it should be scratched and tattered during a breakthrough, this shows two scratches on the tail and that's it.
      I draw the simplest conclusion, this is 70 percent bullshit
    40. 0
      23 January 2023 09: 18
      If the network has become a panacea, then you need to put a self-liquidator on a kamikaze, or a cumulative part with a metal sensor (remote detonation). And there are no trophies and the equipment will be damaged or the personnel will be demoralized that there is no victory, and it is dangerous to approach.
    41. -1
      23 January 2023 10: 23
      It seems that it doesn’t even look like a lancet. The text is short, but who needs to understand
    42. 0
      23 January 2023 11: 33
      A good, field solution, at the level of tank birdhouses .. Immediately indicates the absence of a temporary fuse or motion sensor ..
    43. 0
      23 January 2023 16: 41
      We do not need to worry about anti-lancet nets, but about enemy drones controlled by Starlink and / or Oneweb space relays. Satellite Internet allows the enemy to control drones at any distance from the control center, as well as to carry out network-centric control of the battlefield individually for each tactical combat unit, from tanks and aircraft to fighters and combat robots. This is very serious, and if we miss this outbreak (which has already practically happened), then we will have very big problems.
      1. 0
        23 January 2023 17: 43
        Our Defense Ministry missed this outbreak about 20-30 years ago ... when the backlog with Soviet embryos of a UAV such as a swift or a flight was ruined - like the Papuans to drive and not taking into account the awesome experience of Israel and the USA in THEIR design and use of drones as a highly effective MODERN military personal belongings and a separate type of troops in fact. Well, an hour in the fire order, when the roasted rooster pecked ... as usual and traditionally we catch up and overtake. A line combat officer and a parquet lamp-maker with an arrogant muzzle are two different universes, and which of them has more rights is a mystery of nature in our reality.
    44. 0
      23 January 2023 17: 30
      The Lancet clearly lacks Comrade Molotov's cocktail bubble in the warhead load ... the chain-link mesh, as expected in terms of the screen at hand.
    45. 0
      23 January 2023 23: 55
      Quote: Gregory_78
      You are talking about the Pentagon, you are talking about skyscrapers. In skyscrapers, it is clear that there is little left of the aircraft, everything was ground when the skyscrapers took shape. But the Pentagon didn't collapse. A hole in the wall - okay, from the fuselage. And the traces of the wings and engines, where are the engines themselves? The engines have very high-strength and heat-resistant parts, very well fastened together. After any impact on the ground and the accompanying fire, the engines remain monolithic. They are distorted, the skin and outer body kit are torn off, but the engine itself almost always remains a single whole. A plane crashed into the Pentagon? Perhaps. Where are his engines?

      Without engines! On a pedal drive!
    46. 0
      26 January 2023 02: 46
      These kinds of shots could be just another Ukrainian production with fragments of a Russian drone hung in advance under the net.

      Most likely, that is exactly what it is!

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