New Boomerang Images

Viktor Murakhovsky posted on the otvaga2004.mybb.ru web site new high-quality photos of models of the promising Russian wheeled (8х8) armored personnel carrier (medium-wheeled armored platform) on the theme "Boomerang" developed by Military-Industrial Center Ltd. from Military-Industrial company". There are also two photos of the model of the lighter prospective armored vehicle with the wheel formula 4х4 - supposedly of the modular armored vehicle KAMAZ-63969, created on the topic "Typhoon".

One of the variants of the medium-wheeled multi-purpose platform on the theme "Boomerang"

Another one of the variants of the medium multi-purpose wheeled vehicle platform on the theme "Boomerang"

Armored vehicle with a wheel formula 4х4 - allegedly a modular machine KAMAZ-63969 on the topic "Typhoon"

Comments

[Igor]

But nothing like that! It looks like a piranha.

[traveler]

It looks like the Chinese are trying to "design-copy" There still need a photo of a robot transformer with a blaster to place let let out, although what if they succeed?

[ShturmKGB]

The exterior is of course good if beautiful, but more important than performance characteristics, we will wait for samples "in metal" ...

[Dmitry23RUS]

The last two options are complete crap

[Captain]

Just a bad view

It's the same

[leon-iv]

Bender's combat prototype on the roof))))

[UPStoyan]

Externally, the Boomerang is very similar to the American Stryker, only the module with domestic weapons.

[yanus]

Or maybe the Stryker looks like our armored personnel carriers? Look at the dates of creation. At the same time, look at what tasks were assigned to our armored personnel carriers and what were planned to be assigned to the Strikers, and what happened in the end.

[leon-iv]

All modern armored personnel carriers have grown from Soviet developments. Now technology has made a new round. And ours are also releasing at a new technological level for other tasks. And the CRIME does not consider how this is done with them. And then again there will be NONE OF ANALOGUES.

[yanus]

leon-iv,
the technique is developed on the basis of the future tactics of application (tasks for technical specifications) and technologies. If there is a technological breakthrough that can expand or change the tactics of application, the tc changes. There are no tactical or technological breakthroughs on armored personnel carriers. I slightly improved the armor, a little navigation, a little weapon, a little mine protection.
The task remained the same - to bring from point A to point B under the cover of armor, weapons in case of emergency.

[leon-iv]

If there is a technological breakthrough that can expand or change the tactics of application, tk changes
Wait a minute, the tactics are just changing. Appeared for example striker brigade from amers. Is it bad that they actively use them actively? And there is the whole range of weapons.
Slightly improved armor
what already holds 30 mm in the given mass dimensions. Isn't that development?
a little navigation
That is, the development of electronic maps and navigation systems is also a bit.
The task remained the same - to bring from point A to point B under the cover of armor
Just not the same. Colonial wars are now in fashion again, and there it is not comme il faut to use heavy tracked vehicles. And if you strengthen the protection against kuma, you can also bend the Papuans. For the main opstnost is RPG and ATGM from the first development of armor from the second KAZ.

[yanus]

Quote: leon-iv

The task remained the same - to bring from point A to point B under the cover of armor
Just not the same. Colonial wars are now in fashion again, and there it is not comme il faut to use heavy tracked vehicles. And if you strengthen the protection against kuma, you can also bend the Papuans. For the main opstnost is RPG and ATGM from the first development of armor from the second KAZ.

And do we have many colonies?) No? Then why talk about "colonial" tactics that have nothing to do with us?
It's funny about the KAZ on the armored personnel carrier. Limited application possible for individual parts. Massively within the framework of the Russian army is unrealistic. Hence the next question - why talk about the tactics of using with the active use of KAZ, if they are not stupidly foreseen.
And yes, the grilles do quite well with most of the "Papuan" RPGs. But here it is important in the design of the armored personnel carrier to take into account their standard mount, dimensions, engine power reserve, etc. KAZ, of course, is better, but the money is unrealistic. And the grilles will improve vitality pretty well at practically no cost.
But according to the good old tradition, they will score it.

[Nick]

Quote: leon-iv

All modern armored personnel carriers have grown from Soviet developments

Controversial statement. This type of armored vehicles was created in many countries before the First World War. Armored personnel carriers were manufactured by Germany, France, Italy, England, the USA, and the USSR of course.

[Alexander Romanov]

And what kind of small tank is on the third photo from the bottom, I hope not armata

[neri73-r]

Along the way, a robot with a machine gun!

[Retx]

Personally, I like the first option, only now, is it the only one that reminds me of the American Stryker?

And the second option, with a machine gun turret (or what?) Are these associations:

[Manager]

I agree! I also immediately thought about Stryker!

And what kind of tank on the hull? Is it generally fun to place? Are they joking over us, or it seems to me?

[11 black]

Quote: Anxious

And what kind of tank on the hull?

copy the chinese copy ...

[Anxious]

The third photo is also noticeable. Some kind of mini tank))) And the first option really looks like a striker

[alex-defensor]

I believe that this is a remotely controlled sabotage nano-tank, NATURALLY "unparalleled in the world"

[Rockets]

Quote: RETX

to me alone it reminds American "Stryker

Your reminds, reminds BTR-60-70, dig deeper ...

[Retx]

So where do we land from? and where is the engine located? This is all the impact of the mass media - wherever American technology can go everywhere, like a damn standard, everything and everything. The impact on Serdyukov Incorporation is understandable here, they decided to build our army under the ideals of the civilized world!
"Italy has wheeled tanks? Why don't we?"
"The Americans have an engine in the front? And why is it in the back of the BTR 90?"
"Are there Volvo tankers in Europe? Why do we have Kamaz trucks?"
Something like that...

[Rockets]

Quote: RETX

So where do we land from? and where is the engine located?

Unlike their technical genius, ours always swam, And we didn’t have them, but they, they took as a basis, the concept of armored personnel carriers. We want the engine in front, we want to plug in the back, and still it will look like an armored personnel carrier 60-70, and not like a striker
Something like this

[Retx]

I agree, I support your opinion. Makarov just forgot this nuance he was focused on the American and poured shit on our entire series of armored personnel carriers, and also the tanks got it.

handsome!

[Artem6688]

That is, if the front engine is already a copy of the American? Hmm

[PLO]

to me alone, does it remind me of the American Stryker?

then it’s Patria AMV, but you can still recall a bunch of piranhas of the same type of armored personnel carriers

[urzul]

It looks like a tank, by the way, behind the water jets?

[Armata]

Yes, damn someone did not play enough in childhood in cars. It’s time for the ready-made CD to be issued and to be made in the gland, but they do not show all the plastics on a scale.

[leon-iv]

um promote all the rules of marketing.
Are you sure that XM is no longer driving around the landfill.

[Armata]

Quote: leon-iv

Are you sure that XM is no longer driving around the landfill.

No, not sure. But he noticed an odd fact. As soon as the platform of Almaty came out, immediately all the layouts disappeared and there was no talk in the media.

[leon-iv]

also as an option, but a suitable boomerang is promised in the 14th year. A fortune-telling on coffee grounds is one of the favorite activities in Runet.
Or how everyone thought with Pak FA what it would look like was 100500 drawings, and he lit up on the table at POGO.

[bask]

The mechanic. I agree with a hundred pounds !!! While they are in China, they are ordering plastic toy mockups. .Chinese on these toys make armored vehicles in metal ...

[lewerlin53rus]

What's this? photo from the toy store? That's when there will be an official presentation, then we’ll break spears of what and how. And then we’ve been lured lately. There will be information from an incomprehensible source, and after half an hour its refutation. My son has a bunch of military equipment, very similar to the photo. And walk through the shops, and the exact same ones will surely be found.

[Artem6688]

That is, you are not interested in what the platform will look like?

[lewerlin53rus]

Quote: Artem6688

That is, you are not interested in what the platform will look like?

Why? Interesting. But this should be reliable information and not a model, but real military equipment.

[baltika-18]

Article minus. There are no sense to discuss ridiculous pictures. It does not carry information.

[Ppsh]

If you throw away design refinements, then all the cars are alike ...
So is the armored personnel carrier. Optimum line-up achieved. Therefore, they are so similar to each other. Another question: what's inside. Engine, transmission, weapons. Judging by photo 1, they placed 2A72 in the tower without ribs. Doubtful option. Well, about the tank on the roof - interesting. Probably BRM.

[understudy]

The location of the tower on the first model is not clear. The cannon will have a minimum tilt angle when firing forward. Again, if I'm not mistaken, are there hatches right in front of her for one of the landing methods? Somehow "shekotno" will leave the armor.

[Retx]

The landing will take place as in Striker, behind (Makarov therefore complained about our 80s and 90s), and hatches for other purposes are most likely

[Eric]

The experience of the battles for Grozny shows: the main thing is that the barrel should be pulled up well!

[vorobey]

but I don’t like for some reason. Teeth forms. there is no grace and aesthetics especially with Typhoon.

[Armata]

Hi Sanya. Yes, toys are everything for children, so a fantasy on the topic. It will still change 50 times.

[vorobey]

Hello, hello. Fantasies should also be beautiful and not sick.

[Armata]

Quote: vorobey

Fantasies should also be beautiful and not sick.

Well, here you go. What the Chinese were able to cast, then set.

[leon-iv]

EMNIP is Kazan model.

[Armata]

In the sense of Kazan? Are there mock-up workshops?

[leon-iv]

Oga, they make these models in Kazan.

[Yun Klob]

The fourth option (in my opinion) is absolutely not inhabited. Too little space reserved for the driver. If he drives half-lying, he will be completely broken on our bumps, and he will not fit in, nor (all the more) the wounded will leave the car. And if you are sitting, then your head will hit the ceiling. Bad experience, but I could be wrong.

[Bugor]

Some kind of fantasy on the topic of armored personnel carriers. And crazy. How much armor will he drag on 4 wheels ?????

[yanus]

Still, they want to cheat on the side outlets to please the rear ramp. Well, what for it is on an armored personnel carrier, it's not BMP ....

[Artem6688]

Because the side hatches are miserable, uncomfortable for exits and expose the fighter under fire.

[yanus]

Quote: Artem6688

Because the side hatches are miserable, uncomfortable for exits and expose the fighter under fire.

For BMP, yes. For armored personnel carriers - no.
Armored personnel carrier is transport, he should not conduct active hostilities "vlob".
Most armored personnel carriers fall into ambushes, where the fire is not frontal but side. Here it is just better to go to the opposite side and hide behind the body of the armored personnel carrier. Exit from behind, especially through the ramp, brings the fighters into the enemy fire.
Needless to go on both sides.

[Kyki57]

We must buy military equipment from the brothers of Belarus!

[bask]

Kyki57 .A that the Belarus Brothers BTR has a modern one in production ????

[Manager]

BTR-50P or something ??? I just didn’t see anything else ..

[JonnyT]

Some kind of dregs! It smells of Serdyukov style (we’ll buy wheels from Czechs, an engine from the Greeks, a transmission from the French, a case from the Americans, a suspension from the Finns, seats and a steering wheel from the Chinese! We will have good kickbacks from every purchase, we won’t do anything ourselves!) ....about!!!!! Although the little tank deserves close attention !!!!!!

[Artem6688]

You definitely know better that this is shit than all the designers there.

[Brother Sarych]

Not impressive, but biaxial generally some kind of fake ...
It’s better to wait for something in the metal, rather than a model from a rally of young technicians ...

[leon-iv]

why fake.
Replacement BRDM long overdue. There will be searches, there will be different solutions. And on them to draw hasty conclusions is IMHO wrong.

[bask]

leon .A BRDM, we could also buy 2T from the Belarusians ,, Stalker ,, Machine of the 21st century !!!

[leon-iv]

hmm controversial machine. But the concept is interesting. Only in wheeled brigades, light tanks didn’t fall, + there are a number of questions. Much more important is the interior. No wonder we are buying up all the wheelbases to see.

[bask]

leon / What wheelbases are buying up to see ??? ((BTR-90 ((I consider the transmission and chassis one of the best in the world. The vaunted ,, Boxer ,, and the one on the springs. And the swivel only 2 front pair of wheels. And there are also Soviet, forgotten, BAZ 5939,5921.5922 ,, Tactical complexes ,, Moon ,, Tochka-U ,, With their carrying capacity and buoyancy. Book modern and armored personnel carriers in 12-13 years at the world level ... Dimensions are too big. But there are + a lot of weapons and equipment in this post ...

[leon-iv]

What wheelbases are buying up to see ???
For example, the same centaur has an excellent gear system.
Understand no one says that we can not and can not. But there is one good Russian proverb.
One head it's good, but two better.

[bask]

leon. I practically agree with everything. But it’s absolutely necessary to upgrade BAZ wheeled platforms. Boomerang will not be able to cope with such a loading capacity ... as BAZ 5939 ... ((ammunition delivery vehicles to the battlefield, tankers, self-propelled guns - assault guns for direct support of infantry, etc. ((((Everything is on a wheelbase and with good booking .....

[leon-iv]

as if torn classes.
It is not in vain that our Moscow Region is eyeing the MZKT. How to say conclusions

[Nechai]

Quote: JonnyT

It smacks of Serdyukov style (we’ll buy wheels from Czechs, an engine from the Greeks, a transmission from the French, a case from the Americans, a suspension from the Finns, seats and a steering wheel from the Chinese!

The ditty in Civil was:
English tobacco
And the bayonet is Austrian.
The uniform is Japanese.
Ruler of Omsk!
/ fl about Kalchak /
Models clearly demonstrate the ideology of the customer - if it is, however, that BTT will be able to be on the battlefield, the main thing is that it is possible for crews and troops to quickly get out of technical vehicles. The prevailing idea. Eclipsing all other combat capabilities, security, ease of maintenance and repair.
Century after century pass, but admiration for Western things and ideas DOESN'T GO anywhere ... And everything that is domestic is bad and unfit for "our elite" because it is DOMESTIC. Apparently this is one of the main selection criteria for the "elite" ...

[Artem6688]

Because the Russian armored personnel carrier (I speak your language - that is, everything that looks like the NATO is not patriotic) only burns well.

Which is better in your opinion:
1. Take the best from domestic and import developments.
2. Only domestic, even to the detriment of the TTX (well, what will we buy overseas or something, because everything is western - !!)

[yanus]

Quote: Artem6688

Because the Russian armored personnel carrier (I speak your language - that is, everything that looks like the NATO is not patriotic) only burns well.

Yeah, and when the abrams from the old RPG-7 to the barrel burned, they didn’t burn - did they burn with the righteous flame of democracy?
Do not draw conclusions when viewing a couple of shit films.

[Artem6688]

But only for some reason in Western countries, no one calls the APC or BMP a mass grave.

[Manager]

Our armored personnel carriers are not controversially beautiful and command respect. But comparing with the same "STRIKER" ours is nothing. The striker has better armor and better equipment. Let's add to this the number of strikers in service ....... well, in general, you get the idea. There is even nothing to compare. If, for example, comparing the MI and Apache combat helicopters, then ours are certainly better, but ours released only a few and the Apaches in 1800 seem to be. The number will be crushed in general. And the armored personnel carriers we have them are smaller and they are worse.

[Tylerdurden]

similar to German, forgot the name.

[pogis]

BOXER His name is.

[sanek45744]

maybe of course I think neither right, but the lateral exit should be sure just in case !!!

[Eric]

German tanks in particular the T-3 and T-4 suffered from a large number of hatches and holes of all sorts - weakened zones.

[sanek45744]

no, I had in mind the same outputs as on BRT 80 and BTR 90 on the sides!

[Eric]

In an ambush, I think the ramp is better. And when they set fire to the first and closing machine, if of course as part of the convoy, then excuse me who managed to eat it, and in any case, practice shows: in Grozny during the first two days of the battle, when traveling as part of the convoy, whose mechanic was more experienced , and he pulled the car out of the bags. Loopholes should be in any way, but loopholes are small holes, I do not consider them particularly weakened zones. In a fire bag, the speed of leaving the machine plays a major role. An armored personnel carrier cannot carry out landing defense at the tank level, but because the faster you leave the armored object, the better for you. For the PT soldiers do not sleep, and they are aiming to destroy the car along with the landing party, and while the landing party has not dismounted with the armored personnel carrier, it is in the zone of increased attention from the enemy and his weapons of fire. It is difficult for me to judge the usefulness of the side doors on the BTR-70/80, the servicemen will say more. But the APCs with improper use of the target is easy. The wings on the rear BMP are good in that they provide lateral protection when dismounting.

By the way, in Grozny there was an episode, when leaving the BMP assault, in the open stern doors, the Czechs grenade launcher fired straight into the airborne squad, so this is all a matter of chance.

[Nechai]

For a remotely controlled robot, the most preferred arrangement is in the transport position, on the AFT sheet of the armored personnel carrier. Do not high and ramps. With a manipulator unloading it on the ground and lifting it. WITHOUT EXIT of the crew from under the armor! And as in the photo it is placed, with the aim of the quickest conclusion of this robot out of action, CES-C-word ...

[leon-iv]

This is marketing no more.
No one in their right mind would place it there. And nobody will show the hole at point 5.

[suharev-52]

Plastic - not impressed. We are waiting for the iron. Then we will discuss. Sincerely.

[Bosk]

When they called this project a Boomerang .... what are they pinned ... or is there some kind of subtext ?, well then they could call a land mine ...

[Vasily79]

The author's photo is just a fucker and so Mistralel makes me sick B ..... Where is the classic of Russian beauty "KATYUSHA" About TX I am silent xxx cannot be compared with a finger!