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Israel hopes to receive more F-15EX fighter jets from US soon

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Israel hopes to receive more F-15EX fighter jets from US soon

Israel hopes to receive more Boeing F-15EX fighter jets soon, according to Breaking Defense, a US publication. As the authors of the publication noted, Jerusalem intends to conclude a deal with Washington for the purchase of another 25 such combat vehicles. The Israeli government is awaiting a response to a request sent to the American side for their acquisition.


At the same time, according to the source, Israel is not yet sure how many units of such equipment it needs due to the uncertain political situation in the country, where national parliamentary elections have been held 4 times in the last almost 5 years alone.

The Boeing F-15EX Eagle II is a 4th generation heavily armed fighter aircraft first received by the US Air Force in 2021. It replaced the outdated F-15 modifications "C" and "D". Equipped with 22 air-to-air missiles, including AIM-120D missiles, with a range of up to 180 km. It also has 15 attachment points for air-to-ground ammunition. The aircraft has advanced radio and satellite communications systems and an infrared target detection system.

It is expected that by the end of this year, the US Air Force will receive 6 more such aircraft. The upgraded version of the aircraft made its first combat firing last year, successfully firing an AIM-120D missile to the side drone BQM-167 Skeeter.
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  1. swnvaleria
    swnvaleria 21 January 2023 11: 19
    +2
    why not an f-35 super megaplane?
    1. cold wind
      cold wind 21 January 2023 11: 37
      -2
      Quote: swnvaleria
      why not an f-35 super megaplane?

      Because their supply goes in parallel and increases quantitatively.
      1. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 21 January 2023 12: 04
        +6
        And in the photo is the F / A-18 "Super Hornet", although the article itself writes about Israel's Wishlist to get the F-15EX "Eagle II".
        1. cold wind
          cold wind 21 January 2023 12: 18
          0
          I don't pay attention to that anymore. Newsmen here regularly make such pearls.
        2. Tusv
          Tusv 21 January 2023 12: 39
          0
          Quote: Bad_gr
          And in the photo F / A-18 "Super Hornet"

          Well, yes. The muzzle of a brick is begging compared to the simple and slender Cornet
          1. Bad_gr
            Bad_gr 22 January 2023 14: 24
            0
            Quote: Bad_gr
            And in the photo is the F / A-18 "Super Hornet", although the article itself writes about Israel's Wishlist to get the F-15EX "Eagle II".
            Already corrected, now in the photo is the F-15C.
    2. Tusv
      Tusv 21 January 2023 12: 32
      +1
      Quote: swnvaleria
      why not an f-35 super megaplane?

      We look at the performance characteristics and understand that this is the most dangerous bird
    3. Dart2027
      Dart2027 21 January 2023 12: 43
      +1
      Quote: swnvaleria
      why not super mega plane f-35

      I immediately thought about it.
    4. WetCat
      WetCat 21 January 2023 12: 53
      +2
      This "supermega ..." has neither the speed and payload of the F-15, nor the maneuverability of the Su-27, and many others .. And its "super invisibility" is very doubtful ..
      1. shahor
        shahor 21 January 2023 18: 45
        0
        Quote from WetCat
        This "supermega ..." has neither the speed and payload of the F-15, nor the maneuverability of the Su-27, and many others .. And its "super invisibility" is very doubtful.

        This aircraft in terms of payload - 13 tons - surpasses any of the modifications of the F-15. And, by the way, the Su-34. New engines and conformal fuel tanks ensure good range. Superinvisibility, like stealth, was not provided for the F-15EX. That is why Israel plans to use the EX as a bomber in conjunction with the F-35. The 35th crushes air defense, and the 15th dumps 13 tons of good on whoever needs it. Israel does not plan to buy - but sent a firm order to the United States for 25 pieces of 15x plus an option for another 25. Thus, if the State Department agrees to the deal, there is little doubt - Israel will have a shock fist of 50 35x and 50 EX.
        1. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 21 January 2023 19: 27
          +3
          Quote: shahor
          This aircraft in terms of payload - 13 tons - surpasses any of the modifications of the F-15. And by the way, Su-34.
          Is not a fact. The Su-34 in Syria was loaded with 12 tons and flew without problems. In this case, everything depends on the amount of fuel that the aircraft takes (when loading 12 tons, the combat radius of the Su-34 is reduced to 1000 km).
          What is the combat radius of the F-15EX when loading 13 tons?
          1. shahor
            shahor 22 January 2023 00: 02
            -1
            Quote: Bad_gr
            What is the combat radius of the F-15EX when loading 13 tons?

            Boeing gave a flight range of 3 km with a maximum load. I haven't seen the Pentagon data yet.
            1. Bad_gr
              Bad_gr 22 January 2023 01: 17
              0
              Quote: shahor
              Boeing gave a flight range of 3 km with a maximum load.
              3000 km is, most likely, with the maximum load gained by external fuel tanks, with a zero bomb load. I meant when the F-15EX is loaded with 13 tons of bombs.

              I once compared the F-15 with the Su-34: engine power, empty weight, wing area, and so on. Here you can also add the lift of the aircraft body, which the Su-27 (I don’t know about the Su-34) is one and a half times more than that of the F-15. In general, the result was not in favor of the F-15.
              I won’t count on a new one, somewhere here, on VO, these calculations lie.
              1. cold wind
                cold wind 22 January 2023 02: 22
                -2
                I was surprised by your comment and also decided to compare.
                With approximately equal load mass in the region of 22 tons and engine thrust (difference of 6%), the difference in dry weight is huge at 8 tons or 55%. This means that with the same ratio of fuel / weapons, the F-15EX will fly further simply due to its lower weight. This is not to mention that the F110-GE-129 engines consume significantly less fuel than the AL-31F. The F-15EX in range seriously outperforms the Su-34.

                About lift, it is important at low speeds, i.e. during takeoff/landing, so this parameter is taken into account in the maximum takeoff weight. If simplified. Pay attention to the KR, their wings are very small, because they do not need to take off and land.

                There is no need to talk about avionics, maneuverability, thrust-to-weight ratio and the range of weapons, the total superiority of the American.

                Having understood and accepted what I wrote, it will become obvious to you why there are no sales of the Su-34. This bomber is extremely unsuccessful, in our VKS it is only due to lobbying and corruption. He did not show anything at the NWO, however, like the Air Force as a whole.
                1. Osipov9391
                  Osipov9391 22 January 2023 03: 52
                  -2
                  There are no Al-35s on the Su-34.
                  There should be ordinary Al-31F with a thrust of 12500 kg.
                  For obvious reasons, the maneuverability of this bomber is worse
                  than the conventional Su-27.
                  The mass of only an empty plane will not let you lie. The thrust of the engines is the same as the wing area is approximately equal to the basic version of the Su-27.

                  As for the electronic equipment, it is hopelessly outdated on the Su-34.
                  For 30 years. Everything and everyone.
                  More Soviet development in many ways.
                2. poquello
                  poquello 22 January 2023 04: 33
                  +2
                  Quote from cold wind
                  With approximately equal load mass in the region of 22 tons and engine thrust (difference of 6%), the difference in dry weight is huge at 8 tons or 55%. This means that with the same ratio of fuel / weapons, the F-15EX will fly further simply due to its lower weight.

                  so the drying tanks are twice as large, no need to shag your grandmother
                3. Bad_gr
                  Bad_gr 22 January 2023 11: 04
                  +1
                  Quote from cold wind
                  and also decided to compare.
                  There are errors in your table.
                  For the F-15EX, the weight of an empty aircraft is indicated (14500 kg), but on the contrary, for the Su-34 it is equipped (22 kg, with a loaded gun and crew).
                  On the same Wiki, the Su-37 has data that you are unlikely to find for the F-15EX:
                  maximum load with 100% fuel: 10 kg
                  normal load with 100% fuel: 4 kg

                  The ferry range for the F-15 is indicated as 4800 km, but they often forget to indicate that with external tanks. The Su-34 has a ferry range of 4500 km (7000 km with PTB).

                  Quote: Osipov9391
                  There are no Al-35s on the Su-34.

                  The power plant of the aircraft includes two turbojet engines with afterburners AL-31F or their modifications. On serial Su-34 aircraft, more powerful and economical modifications of the AL-31F, known in the press under the names AL-31FM and AL-35F, and having thrust, according to various sources, from 12800 to 14000 kgf (respectively 125.6 and 137.3 kN) can be used. There is an APU.
                  http://www.airwar.ru/enc/bomber/su34.html

                  By the way, the characteristics of the Su-34 are classified on the manufacturer's website (https://www.uacrussia.ru/ru/aircraft/lineup/military/su-34/#aircraft-specific)
                  1. Osipov9391
                    Osipov9391 22 January 2023 13: 06
                    -2
                    I repeat once again that there are no Al-35s.
                    There are ordinary Al-31F with a thrust of 12500 kg and Al-31f-m1 with an increase in thrust by about a ton.
                    The latter were installed on the Su-27SM3, Su-33 during repairs and are being installed on the Su-34.
                    There are no other engines.
                    1. Bad_gr
                      Bad_gr 22 January 2023 14: 14
                      +1
                      Quote: Osipov9391
                      I repeat once again that there are no Al-35s.

                      Why repeat, give a link to the source of information, and we will decide for ourselves what information to trust.
                      For example, I came across information that the same engines will be installed on the Su-34 as on the Su-35, and in general, this engine will be the only one for the entire line created on the basis of the Su-27.
                      1. Bad_gr
                        Bad_gr 22 January 2023 17: 12
                        +1
                        Quote: Bad_gr
                        On the same Wiki, the Su-37 has the following data:
                        maximum load with 100% fuel: 10 kg

                        That is (with some assumptions, since there is a scatter of data in net)
                        for the Su-34:
                        equipped (with a loaded gun and crew): ------------ 22 kg
                        at maximum takeoff ----------------------------------------- 45 kg

                        we subtract the curb weight from the maximum take-off weight (weight of pilots and defense weapons) 45 - 000 = 22 500 kg is the weight of fuel and bomb load combined.
                        With a bomb load of 12 kg, he will be able to take with him:
                        22 - 500 = 10 500 kg Fuel

                        ************************************************** **********************************************
                        F-15EX
                        equipped (with 4 SD AIM-7 Sparrow) ------------------------------ 20 240 kg, (F-15C)
                        Maximum takeoff weight: --------------------------------------- 37 kg

                        we subtract the curb weight from the maximum take-off weight (weight of pilots and defense weapons) 37 - 000 = 16 kg is the weight of fuel and bomb load combined.
                        That is, if the F-15EX is loaded with 12 kg of bomb load, then it will be able to take fuel with itself 000 - 16 = 4 760 kg.
                      2. cold wind
                        cold wind 22 January 2023 17: 28
                        0
                        Quote: Bad_gr
                        F-15EX
                        equipped (with 4 SD AIM-7 Sparrow) ------------------------------ 20 240 kg, (F-15C)

                        AIM 7 weighs ~232 kg, 4 pieces roughly a ton. Two pilots is 200 kg. The dry weight of the F-15EX is 14 kg and you want to say that the ammo gun takes 500 tons?
                        16 760 +928 kg AIM-7+ 4760 kg it is not clear why you have ~ 22,5 tons per gun + fuel. The same ~ 10 tons for weapons with 12 tons for fuel.
                      3. Bad_gr
                        Bad_gr 22 January 2023 20: 54
                        +1
                        Quote from cold wind
                        at 12 tons for fuel.

                        F-15C - max. take-off 30 845 kg, fuel weight in internal tanks 6103 kg
                        F-15E - max. takeoff 36 700 kg, fuel weight in internal tanks 5952 kg
                        F-15EX - max. take-off 37 kg, fuel weight in internal tanks? kg
                        At maximum bomb load, there is nowhere to hang external fuel tanks, so only internal tanks (around 6 kg)
                        13 kg + 000 kg = 19 000 kg

                        Su-34 with 12 kg of bomb load, takes 000 kg of fuel into internal tanks (according to the data that is in the public domain)
                        12 kg + 000 kg = 24 100 kg
                      4. Bad_gr
                        Bad_gr 22 January 2023 23: 42
                        +1
                        Quote: shahor
                        You have not familiarized yourself with the features of the aircraft you are writing about. Why does he need hanging tanks if he is regularly equipped with conformal ones! The capacity of such a tank is 750 gallons, hanging - 600.

                        750 gallons = 2839,06 liters. kerosene = 2271.248 kg (at a density of kerosene 800 kg/m3)
                        F-15EX (bomb load + internal tanks + conformal tank)
                        13 kg + 000 kg + 6 kg = 000 kg
                        Su-34
                        12 kg + 000 kg = 12 kg
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                      6. Bad_gr
                        Bad_gr 23 January 2023 00: 50
                        0
                        Quote: Bad_gr
                        F-15EX (bomb load + internal tanks + conformal tank)
                        13 kg + 000 kg + 6 kg = 000 kg
                        I'm sorry. According to the F-15, the TTX got the information "Mass of fuel in conformal tanks: 4422 kg",
                        that is, 2 x 2271 kg (we will count to the maximum)
                        F-15EX (bomb load + internal tanks + conformal tank)
                        13 kg + 000 kg + 6 kg = 000 kg
                        Maximum takeoff weight F-15EX + fuel with bomb load
                        37000 - 23542 = 13kg
                        does not converge, since the empty weight is 14500 kg, and the aircraft still has to be equipped.
                        In general, from the maximum amount (23 kg) that I counted, either the bomb load or fuel should be removed a little (at least 542 tons). I can’t say for sure, since the weight of the equipped F-2EX, which should be the result, is unknown.
                        PS
                        All this is approximate, since there is a large spread of data on the Internet.

                        Question:
                        Is the conformal tank included in the group of internal tanks or is it considered separately?
                      7. cold wind
                        cold wind 23 January 2023 01: 14
                        0
                        Quote: Bad_gr
                        Question:
                        Is the conformal tank included in the group of internal tanks or is it considered separately?

                        Separately. Conformal tanks are optional. The first F-15EX will not have them. An article about this https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/no-conformal-fuel-tanks-for-first-f-15ex-operational-units.
                        P.S. It's not clear what you're spinning. Both aircraft can carry a maximum of 22 tons, of course, this depends on many factors.
                      8. Bad_gr
                        Bad_gr 23 January 2023 01: 46
                        0
                        Quote from cold wind
                        Separately. Conformal tanks are optional. The first F-15EX will not have them. An article about this https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/no-conformal-fuel-tanks-for-first-f-15ex-operational-units.
                        Clear. Thanks for the information.
                      9. shahor
                        shahor 23 January 2023 20: 12
                        0
                        Quote: Bad_gr
                        Is the conformal tank included in the group of internal tanks or is it considered separately?

                        Conformal tank is an additional option. Mounted outside along the fuselage. Has weapon attachment points. Can be used on all types of F-15. Used instead of hanging tanks. US pilots have a different attitude towards the use of conformal tanks. Many prefer drop-mounted outboards. I just read on the American website that the US National Guard receives its EX without conformal tanks. Their main task is air defense, they believe that they have enough range for this task. In extreme cases, they will refuel in the air. Tankers at the National Guard - do not worry.
                      10. shahor
                        shahor 23 January 2023 19: 57
                        0
                        Quote: Bad_gr
                        750 gallons = 2839,06 liters. kerosene =

                        2 conformal tanks is 2839 x 2 liters. On the tanks - 6 additional suspension points for weapons. Hence, the ability to haul 28 GBU-29s for 1200 km. Hence, in the fighter version - 22 air-to-air missiles. At speeds up to 2500 km/h. At the Su-1800. What do we have? A modern universal aircraft against an aircraft originally from the 80s.
                      11. shahor
                        shahor 23 January 2023 19: 41
                        0
                        Quote: Bad_gr
                        F-15EX
                        equipped (with 4 SD AIM-7 Sparrow) ------------------------------ 20 240 kg, (F-15C)

                        So what kind of aircraft are you writing about - EX or C? Their engines are different. EX is more powerful.
                      12. Bad_gr
                        Bad_gr 23 January 2023 22: 43
                        0
                        Quote: shahor
                        So what kind of aircraft are you writing about - EX or C?
                        I did not find the weight of the equipped F-15EX, so I set it up from the F-15EX, which I pointed out.
                        If you have data on the performance characteristics of the F-15EX, then please supplement, otherwise there is not enough written about it on the Internet (including curb weight, capacity of internal tanks, etc.)
                      13. Osipov9391
                        Osipov9391 23 January 2023 00: 22
                        -1
                        Al-35 engines do not exist in nature. They simply do not exist.
                        So at one time they called the modification Al-31F installed
                        on the first Su-35s, then still the Su-27M in the 90s and early 00s.
                        Now such aircraft can only fly at the FRI under test programs.

                        There are only Al-31F and Al-31F-M1 with increased thrust by about a ton.
                        They can only be placed.

                        Putting other engines on this bomber makes no sense at all - they are not designed for it and will not work normally.
                      14. Bad_gr
                        Bad_gr 23 January 2023 01: 53
                        0
                        Quote: Osipov9391
                        ... There are only Al-31F and Al-31F-M1 with increased thrust by about a ton. They can only be placed...
                        This is clear. Al-31F-M1 began to be installed on the Su-34 more than ten years ago. At the same time, ours had plans to continue upgrading the engines to Al-31F-M2 and Al-31F-M3 versions.
                        Al-31F-M3 - should have a thrust of 15 tons. At what stage these developments are now, no information came across.
                      15. Osipov9391
                        Osipov9391 23 January 2023 02: 54
                        -1
                        These modifications of engines differ in thrust, resource and manufacturing technology - in the latest modifications, turbine disks are milled from a single ingot of metal, and earlier the blades were simply mounted on the disk.

                        Others (not Al-31F and its modifications) were not installed on the Su-34 - its air intakes are unregulated.
                      16. Bad_gr
                        Bad_gr 23 January 2023 04: 18
                        0
                        Quote: Osipov9391
                        ..... turbine disks are milled from a single ingot of metal, but earlier they simply put the blades on the disk.
                        This is the 5th generation doing this. If in the 4th turbine blades are made of single crystals, in the 5th the entire disk with blades is grown. It has no gaps between the disk and the blade, which means there are no losses through these gaps, the efficiency is higher, etc.
    5. Negro
      Negro 21 January 2023 13: 27
      -2
      Quote: swnvaleria
      why not an f-35 super megaplane?

      Because LM has a queue for it five years in advance, and Boeing also needs to eat.
      1. Wildcat
        Wildcat 21 January 2023 21: 24
        0
        "The F-15EX is a two-seat fighter (contrary to the single-seat F-15X originally promoted by Boeing) and should be equipped with modern avionics based on the digital highway concept and the Open Mission Systems (OMS) architecture, including the Raytheon AN / APG-series radar 82 with AFAR The F-15EX is said to be capable of carrying up to 22 air-to-air guided missiles or "hypersonic weapons up to 22 feet long and weighing up to 7000 pounds." https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4250201 .html

        IMHO, in the Israeli Air Force, the F15 in a two-seat configuration is used as a long-range strike vehicle with the ability to carry heavier weapons than the F16 and F35, in particular, the largest "bunker bombs".
        There is a complaint that the US is not transferring the most powerful "anti-bunker" weapon for F15 (the main goal IMHO is the "Frodo plant"). But, IMHO, Israel can do this itself.
      2. Wildcat
        Wildcat 22 January 2023 03: 53
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        A little more about Israel's bright feelings for the Iranian nuclear program, large "penetrating" bombs and F15 (IMHO, just those that are "Raam", not "Baz"), which, most likely, will drag IMHO "penetrators" to Iran until the Su35 arrived there.
        "If Iran continues at its current pace, it could develop nuclear weapons within one year. This is provided that its ballistic missiles will also develop at such a pace.
        Therefore, it seems to me that the current state of disappointment in the United States and Western Europe in Iran's nuclear behavior, on the one hand, and anti-government unrest in the country, on the other, is quite suitable for an attack on Iranian enrichment facilities.
        I also believe that Israel can destroy the Iranian enrichment facilities on its own, without the participation and support of the United States.
        A common claim is that since the facility at Fordow, like much of Natanz, is underground, they would be very difficult to destroy. But, in my humble opinion, this disadvantage also has a great advantage, about which I think this is not the time or place to go into details.
        Lieutenant Colonel (retired) Dr. Rafael Ofek is an expert in nuclear physics and technology. He previously served in the Israeli intelligence community as a senior fellow and analyst on global and Middle Eastern nuclear issues."

        https://www.israeldefense.co.il/en/node/56435

        "Efforts to supply ammunition to Israel are expected to face significant obstacles, both legal and practical.
        U.S. federal law currently prohibits the sale of such bunker destroyers, and the new bill is purportedly intended to amend. Even if the sale were approved, Israel does not currently have an aircraft physically capable of carrying a massive bomb, especially as far as Iran. The F-15, which Israel uses as its main bomber, can carry weapons about half as light as an MOP.
        The 30 lb (000 kg) bomb entered service in 13 and was later upgraded in terms of targeting and penetration, but was never offered for sale to Israel. In 600, then-U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry appeared to refer to the bomb when he told Israeli television that Jerusalem must have confidence in "an administration that has developed and deployed weapons capable of dealing with Iran's nuclear program."
        A smaller GBU-28 bunker bomb was secretly sold to Israel in 2009, though it is believed to be incapable of penetrating Iran's Fordow nuclear facility, which is deep under the mountain.
        " https://www.timesofisrael.com/bipartisan-house-bill-will-encourage-us-to-sell-bunker-buster-bombs-to-israel/
        GBU28 is calmly dragging F15, on which GBU72 will also be hung up: "Israeli planners have already shared operational lessons from the GBU-28 bomb with the US Air Force to help develop operational profiles for the GBU-72. In turn, Israeli military officials hope that Washington will approve the possible sale of the GBU-72 once it is fully used by the US Air Force. .... Data on these special attack profiles was passed to the US Air Force, which just last week announced the successful completion of a series of GBU-72 tests proving that the weapon can be successfully fired from an F-15 fighter. Weapon testing included an "arena test" where the warhead exploded surrounded by a sensor to determine full impact and lethality.
        According to the US Air Force, the GBU-72 was designed to "overcome difficult, deep-seated targets and is designed for both fighters and bombers." Given Hamas' extensive use of underground tunnels, it's easy to see why Israel is interested in improving the capabilities of the GBU-72 over the old GBU-28 design. And since Israel already operates F-15s and is looking to add to its fleet, integration should be easy.
        "https://breakingdefense.com/2021/10/israel-to-request-americas-new-gbu-72-bunker-buster-bomb/

        But how is the F15 to drag the MOP (GBU-57A / B Massive Ordnance Penetrator, if you do not consider the miracle plan to throw it from the C130 or sell the B52 to Israel as well? "The Israeli version of the F-15E Strike Eagle, the F-15I Ra'am (Thunder) is what Israel calls its "strategic aircraft". Officially, it can only carry half the payload (18 pounds) required to carry 000 pounds of GBU-30. However, the USAF refers to the Strike Eagle as having a maximum takeoff weight of 000 pounds and an empty weight of 57 pounds. That's £81 to play with potentially. Mounting the GBU-000 on the Ra'am centerline would have caused sizing difficulties, but as noted, the IAF had already accomplished the "impossible".
        The US Air Force declined to comment on whether the F-15E could carry the MOP and whether the US Air Force has contingency plans....
        It is worth noting that they may soon acquire another Eagle, the F-15EX.
        Boeing's new F-15EX can carry 29 pounds of weapons, according to the company.
        Israel has reportedly shown interest in the advanced F-15, which Boeing touts offers a larger payload. In fact, the EX can carry 29 pounds of weapons, which is pretty close to the MOP.
        " https://www.forbes.com/sites/erictegler/2020/10/30/could-the-israelis-really-drop-a-massive-ordinance-penetrator-bomb-on-iran-the-answer-may-be-yes/?sh=37f046711326
        1. bayard
          bayard 23 January 2023 03: 58
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          Quote: Wildcat
          But how can the F15 drag the MOS (GBU-57A / B

          This is an extreme undertaking - on the verge (or beyond) of a foul. Besides, at such a distance. Not to say that it is completely impossible, but ... the probability of success is ... 30 percent.
    6. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 21 January 2023 15: 27
      -1
      Quote: swnvaleria
      why not an f-35 super megaplane?

      Load capacity. F35 - to break through air defense, and F15EEX - a heavy-duty mule that drags bombs and missiles, like a whole F35 link.
  2. poquello
    poquello 21 January 2023 11: 22
    +4
    how, and the warrior wow here proved that f35 is their Jewish "everything",
  3. sanik2020
    sanik2020 21 January 2023 11: 23
    +2
    Of course, Israel needs something to fend off the appearance of the SU-35 in Iran.
    Only these efi are so expensive that even for such a rich state as Israel, this purchase is no longer unambiguous, especially with the current economic and political uncertainty in the world.
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 21 January 2023 12: 35
      0
      Quote: sanik2020
      Of course, Israel needs something to fend off the appearance of the SU-35 in Iran.

      Rather the opposite. Because Israel has been asking for these pepelats for a year now, and the contract for the Su-35, the ink has not dried yet
    2. karabas-barabas
      karabas-barabas 22 January 2023 16: 34
      0
      Quote: sanik2020
      something needs to fend off the appearance of the SU-35 in Iran

      What does the Su-35 have to do with it? For the Su-35, the Israeli Air Force has a lot of things, they need this F-15 in order to throw heavy anti-bunker bombs at the Iranians.
  4. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 21 January 2023 11: 34
    +1
    The F-35 is replacing the F-16, which are all decommissioned.

    The F-15 has a much greater carrying capacity than the F-35.
    Israel uses them as bombers.
    Air Force ultimate goal: 100 F-35s and 50 F-15s
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 21 January 2023 11: 59
      +2
      Air Force ultimate goal: 100 F-35s and 50 F-15s
      And the Israeli Air Force will calm down on this - has the long-awaited happiness come? Something doubts overcome. What if tomorrow the F-36,7.8 appears in the United States, and that then Israel will not fall for the new "miracle of aviation technology"?
      1. Negro
        Negro 21 January 2023 13: 28
        +1
        Quote: rotmistr60
        And the Israeli Air Force will calm down on this - has the long-awaited happiness come? Something doubts overcome. What if tomorrow F-36,7.8 will appear in the USA

        In ten years it will appear, another five years will be licked. And yes, you can buy it. Rather, take it as a gift.
    2. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 22 January 2023 01: 22
      -2
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Air Force ultimate goal: 100 F-35s and 50 F-15s

      Not quite right. 150 fighters are not enough to maintain IDF dominance in the region. (Today there are 300+)
      In addition to purchases, all F-15Is will be upgraded to the EX level, in the end there will be 75 of them. And also, all F-15C\D (25-30 vehicles) will be upgraded to the level of 4+++, leaving clean fighters to fight enemy aircraft. (F-15V will be written off).
      100 F-16Is will also be upgraded and will remain in service until at least 2035-2040. And 75-100 F-35Is will replace all remaining F-16B\C\Ds.

      Therefore, the optimal goal of the Air Force by 2030: 300 fighters (minimum 250).
      100 (75) - new + upgraded F-15s.
      100 (75) - F-35I
      100 - modernized F-16I
  5. Fulcrumxnumx
    Fulcrumxnumx 21 January 2023 11: 38
    -7
    Details about the BMP CV9040 "Stridsfordon-90" in the Armed Forces of Ukraine

    Against the background of the “armored package” of assistance to the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the NATO member states, information about the supply of highly protected Swedish infantry fighting vehicles CV9040 Stridsfordon-90 to the Kyiv regime turned out to be out of focus.

    The machine represents...

    Extended text on our TG channel "Reconnaissance SVO-Analysis of TVD":
    @analyz_tvd_tactech_prognostic
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 21 January 2023 12: 02
      +3
      Fulcrum29 (Evgeny Damantsev)
      Did you mess up the thread? Here, as it were, about the purchase by Israel of the F-15EX. Or did you accidentally screw up the insert from your future article?
  6. Artemion3
    Artemion3 21 January 2023 12: 10
    0
    In the main photo, however, the F-18 Hornet.
  7. Semenov
    Semenov 21 January 2023 13: 15
    +2
    Su-35 from Iran afraid? Well, we can really compare the performance characteristics in action.
    1. Negro
      Negro 21 January 2023 13: 30
      +1
      Quote: Semenov
      Su-35 from Iran afraid?

      The penguin will work with the Su-35. And bomb them.
      1. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 22 January 2023 01: 56
        +1
        Quote: Negro
        The penguin will work with the Su-35.

        Will work with Su-35 systemThat is, totality different platforms and tools using the most efficient algorithm, taking into account strengths and exploiting vulnerabilities.
        No one will go out with them "one at a time" for the sake of show-offs without extreme necessity.

        War is not a tournament, not air darts or tank biathlon.
        1. Negro
          Negro 22 January 2023 06: 34
          -2
          Quote: And Us Rat
          A system will work with the Su-35, that is, a set

          Suffocate.

          G5, despite what they usually write here, are aircraft designed for modern air combat (under AWACS). The first time this scheme was shown just by the Jews over Syria 40 years ago.

          More recently, discussions on the topic "whale or elephant", Su-35 vs F-35, seemed just chatter. But due to recent geopolitical developments, the chance that we will see this in reality has increased dramatically.
    2. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 21 January 2023 14: 33
      0
      Quote: Semenov
      Su-35 from Iran afraid?

      Do you really think so?
      24 Su-35s, even if they are delivered along with the pilots, cannot compete with the Israeli Air Force.
      They must also survive in the light of what has already been.
      An Israeli air attack reportedly destroyed hundreds drones at an air base belonging to the Revolutionary Guards in the Iranian province of Kermanshah.
      According to the report, six Israeli drones attacked a base in the Mahidasht area near the western city of Kermanshah in a covert operation.
      And for information.
      The F-15EX is designed to work collaboratively on missions with F-35 fighters, which are laying a free span (destroying SAMs) and targeting the F-15EX, which has a payload of 13,6 tons.
    3. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 22 January 2023 01: 25
      -2
      Quote: Semenov
      Su-35 from Iran afraid?

      Thank you, made laugh. laughing laughing laughing
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  9. Fitter65
    Fitter65 21 January 2023 15: 33
    0
    Israel hopes to receive more Boeing F-15EX fighter jets soon.
    Why is the EA-18G Growler in the photo?
  10. Petr_Koldunov
    Petr_Koldunov 21 January 2023 17: 11
    0
    And now the States must make a knight's move: they say, if you want to get an F-15 from us, then they must supply Merkava's chubaks for free.
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 21 January 2023 22: 00
      -2
      Quote: Peter_Koldunov
      if you want to get the F-15 from us, then you must supply the Merkava chubaks for free.

      If only rubber.
      There is nothing to put the real ones with, nothing to transport, and only the tower will be visible on that land. 70 tons is for other conditions.
      So your gesheft does not work.
    2. Negro
      Negro 22 January 2023 06: 37
      -3
      Quote: Peter_Koldunov
      then they should supply the Merkava's chubaks for free.

      Why Mervkavs? The Jews have a lot of useful and unnecessary things. Starting with about three hundred M109s and no less towed artillery.

      However, the Americans themselves have enough of this goodness.
  11. Mikhail Kazakov
    Mikhail Kazakov 21 January 2023 22: 52
    -1
    Trimmed, so to speak, not from the good life of the F-15 in E, modifications are purchased. For the vaunted F-35 is like a low-flying bomber at all. Here they take what they have. And the fact that he is "more" lucky there than our Su-34 - after all, in aerial combat it is many times worse, this is the level of the old Su-30s, if not worse. Moreover, again, the decision is "not fish, not meat." If our Su-34 works in tandem with the Su-35 (both the technical level and the flight characteristics are similar), then the F-15 and F-35 are aircraft of a completely different class, it is difficult for them to work in pairs. Not only that - the F-15 "will have" for Jesus lovers not only to work as a bomber, but also as an attack aircraft, because there are no other attack aircraft. Unlike the Russian Federation, where there is a whole class of attack attack helicopters + a whole class of "clean" Su-25 attack aircraft (+ a certain number of Mig-29 and Mig-35 light fighters covering them). In short, everything is expensive for the Jews, and although it’s like “universal”, the efficiency is many times worse than ours in the Air Force
    1. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 22 January 2023 02: 01
      0
      Quote: Mikhail Kazakov
      but efficiency is many times worse than ours in the Air Force

      This is especially evident if we compare the performance of the IDF Air Force in Syria and the Russian Aerospace Forces in Ukraine. wassat
      The level of air defense and air force among the Syrians and Bandera is approximately the same today, only the Iranians cannot even form a shock battalion to attack Israel, no matter how hard they try, entire divisions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are gathering near the front in Donbass. No.
    2. Negro
      Negro 22 January 2023 06: 45
      0
      Quote: Mikhail Kazakov
      In short, everything is expensive for the Jews, and although it’s like “universal”, the efficiency is many times worse than ours in the Air Force

      )))
      Surprisingly, there are people who talk about "our Air Force" (VKS?) as something really existing. And nothing, they're fine.
      Quote: Mikhail Kazakov
      For the vaunted F-35 is like a low-flying bomber at all.

      )))
      You are absolutely right. The F-35 is not a bomber at all, and even less "low-flying".
      Quote: Mikhail Kazakov
      like in air combat, he is many times worse

      Silent Eagle worse than Su-34 in air combat? OK, recorded.
      Quote: Mikhail Kazakov
      If we have a Su-34 working in tandem with a Su-35 (both the technical level and the flight characteristics are similar), then the F-15 and F-35 are aircraft of a completely different class, it is difficult for them to work in pairs.

      )))
      Quote: Mikhail Kazakov
      The F-15 "will have" for Jesus lovers not only to work as a bomber, but also as an attack aircraft, because there are no other attack aircraft.

      You are absolutely right. There is no attack aircraft. But the F-15 will not have to "work as an attack aircraft". Countries with developed aviation have long abandoned attack aircraft - unlike them, their pilots are not free.

      Drones + high-precision.
      Quote: Mikhail Kazakov
      + some number of Mig-29 and Mig-35 light fighters covering them

      MiG-35 appeared, I love it. "A certain amount" is 6 pieces that are not accepted by the MO.
    3. Osipov9391
      Osipov9391 23 January 2023 00: 26
      -1
      The electronic equipment and weapons of all Western aircraft, including this one, are two heads superior to both the Su-34 and Su-30SM.
      simply because the latest Soviet-designed electronics are largely and long outdated.
  12. shahor
    shahor 22 January 2023 23: 18
    +2
    Quote: Bad_gr
    3000 km is, most likely, with the maximum load gained by external fuel tanks,

    You have not familiarized yourself with the features of the aircraft you are writing about. Why does he need hanging tanks if he is regularly equipped with conformal ones! The capacity of such a tank is 750 gallons, hanging - 600.
    1. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 23 January 2023 02: 34
      0
      Quote: shahor
      You have not familiarized yourself with the features of the aircraft you are writing about. Why does he need hanging tanks if he is regularly equipped with conformal ones! The capacity of such a tank is 750 gallons, hanging - 600.

      According to a recently released Pentagon report, the first US Air Force F-15EX Eagle II combat fighters will not be equipped with conformal fuel tanks or CFTs. The absence of CFT will significantly reduce the range of the F-15EX, which in the past has been the main argument in favor of this type.........
      ..........With all this, of course, there is always the possibility that CFTs can be added to the F-15EX after they enter service, or at least distributed to units for installation as needed.
      _At the same time, DOT&E's announcement of the ACC's decision to phase out CFT, at least on the first batch of operational F-15EXs, comes amid growing uncertainty around the entire program. The Air Force reported last year that its plans to acquire the Eagle II were drastically reduced, with the total number of expected purchases reduced from 144 of these aircraft to 80..........

      https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/no-conformal-fuel-tanks-for-first-f-15ex-operational-units