The Pentagon spokesman said that the United States recommended that the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine give an order to retreat from Bakhmut

Details of talks between American security officials (heads of law enforcement and intelligence agencies, including the CIA) and representatives of the Kyiv regime continue to appear. Recall that a few days ago, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Valery Zaluzhny was summoned to Poland, where Mark Milli, head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, spoke with him.

Information leaked to the press says that the American general called on Zaluzhny to carry out the withdrawal of Ukrainian troops from Bakhmut (Artemivsk).

The France-Presse article cites a statement by an unnamed official of the American administration, who confirmed the appeal of the American security forces to representatives of the Ukrainian command about Bakhmut. The article says that the United States believes that further attempts to hold Bakhmut interfere with preparations for a large-scale offensive, which was planned for the spring. Therefore, it is necessary to retreat from Bakhmut.

From the material:

With further attempts by the Ukrainian troops to hold Bakhmut, Russia has an opportunity to buy time, preventing Ukraine from preparing for the spring offensive. The reason is that in this direction the Russian army has more forces and means, including artillery.

It was noted that so far Ukraine does not have such resources that would allow it to simultaneously keep Artyomovsk under its control and prepare for an offensive. Additionally, it was indicated that Ukraine was recommended to wait for a new package of military assistance, which includes, among other things, the Bradley infantry fighting vehicle and the Stryker armored personnel carrier.

Comments

[Leader_Barmaleev]

I wonder - are they actually planning a spring offensive or is it the wet dreams of the owners? And the question for a million - and by the spring there will be someone to attack, or the calculation of the Polish-Lithuanian army? Well, okay, as the Serpent Gorynych said - we'll chew and see.

[dmi.pris1]

For the current year, there will be plenty of available cannon fodder, believe me.

[Pankrat25]

If it's not enough, they'll bring more. The world is big and there are a lot of scumbags.

[Lionnvrsk]

I wonder - are they actually planning a spring offensive or is it the wet dreams of the owners?

Of course. As it dries, so they will begin. By that time, tank crews will already be trained, heavy tanks will be put in and they will try to push through. The Americans will constantly add oil to the fire of war. Moreover, in my opinion, they will do this in a dosed manner in order to maintain a certain level of exhaustion and grinding of the Skakuas and our troops for a long time.

[Alexander Salenko]

Cannon fodder are not computer units, and if the soldiers do not want to fight, they will not fight, no detachments will help the cause. If a natural hunt for conscripts is already underway, what is your confidence based on? I have acquaintances from that side, except that I haven’t talked to the boys from Kakhovka for a long time, maybe some of them are at the front, while the rest didn’t get to the front and it’s very clear that they are in no hurry to go there. Even the officer has an acquaintance in Odessa, with combat experience, he is not on the LBS.

[Plate]

Quote: Alexander Salenko

Cannon fodder are not computer units, and if the soldiers do not want to fight, they will not fight, no detachments will help the cause.

It is quite possible to organize in such a way that the soldiers fear their commanders and their state more than the enemy. Here the enemy will only kill you, say, and if you don’t want to fight, then the state can rot your entire family, and kill you in the same way. And this is not to mention all sorts of psychological treatments, pumping with propaganda, taking substances to cloud consciousness and other methods that have been practiced for centuries.

Quote: Alexander Salenko

Even the officer has an acquaintance in Odessa, with combat experience, he is not on the LBS.

It turns out that Ukraine does not yet have a shortage of soldiers and officers in the LBS?

[old]

if the soldiers do not want to fight, they will not fight, no detachments will help the cause

They don't want to, but they fight. At the same time, they fight to the last bullet. They are thrown out of the windows, but they do not surrender. What is the reason for this is not clear. Especially among mobiles from Lviv: for them, this territory has never been Ukraine. Maybe they are all on combat chemistry?

[andray]

your fantasies haha ​​are not appropriate jump on the censor

[Metallurg_2]

What is the reason for this is not clear. Especially for mobiles from Lviv

Maybe there is an unspoken order about the captured zapadentsev - at the expense after interrogation?

[voice of reason]

why would? do you have any exclusive data from the camp of the enemy? Just like everyone else, you draw from the data of the Internet. why such aplomb? I can also tell you that there will not be enough cannon fodder for the current year, believe me.

[Vladimir80]

Of course, they plan, the Americans are rational demons, the losses of the Okrainians do not bother them, they will bring enough of their equipment by spring

[Ded60]

The problems of the serfs of the owners are not interested. "Independent" to me too ".... The United States recommended to the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine ..." The circus, the owners no longer hide the leadership of the lackeys, and they are happy to ride.

[Silver99]

Now it is necessary to cover Artemovsk as much as possible in order to create a cauldron in which the already prepared units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will burn, the next to prepare hastily and are unlikely to carry out a serious spring offensive, the motley NATO armored vehicles in unprepared units will also not help much, especially since the remote bases are removed from the front.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

If you believe the reports of the battles in Yagodny and Predtechino, then Artemovsk is already covered. There remains the only and already unsafe road to Chasov Yar.

[Bismarck]

We all thought the same in the summer, and then all of a sudden they broke through in the Kharkov direction and attacked for almost two months, that we had to leave Kherson. (((

[old]

I wonder - are they actually planning a spring offensive or is it the wet dreams of the owners?

All offensive operations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are planned by the owners, not by them.

[ivan1979nkl]

now it is clear that the fighters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who leave their positions near Bakhmut without an order, they simply do not want to upset Mark Milli

[rotmistr60]

The United States recommended the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to give an order to retreat from Bakhmut

Such "paternal care" of the Americans is simply touching. But in reality - save your strength and manpower for the "decisive blow", and we will throw in the equipment in the right quantities. But whether such a "decisive blow" will succeed, and whether Zelensky will listen to his mentors when it is clear that his roof has gone completely.

[Denis812]

Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Valery Zaluzhny was summoned to Poland, where Mark Milli, head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, spoke with him

It reminded me how Hitler called Mussolini to the carpet for the shameful defeat of the 8th Italian army near Stalingrad. More than 200K losses in six months. :)
The history of some teaches nothing. :)

[Michael]

I rolled the "Stryker" - complete shit. The armor is cardboard, the damage with penetration is below average, while it was pumped, it spat all over.

[Dmitry Trukhtanov]

It’s good that our Defense Ministry is silent like a fish, and doesn’t shout from all corners about decisive offensives ... If only blochers and military correspondents covered their mouths and it would be good

[Andron78]

It looks like there is absolutely no agreement between Ze and Za, since Za's position is brought to Ze in such a cunning way. The Americans have already begun to understand that Ze’s stupid stubbornness simply leads to the grinding of non-brothers, and until their infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers arrive, there will be no one to transport them. And help is what it is and help in order to improve the situation, and not aggravate it. And then explain to Congress what is wrong and who.

[Nobody except us]

"Bakhmut is the name of Artyomovsk used in Ukraine..."
Write then that Artyomovsk is the name of Bakhmut used in the USSR.
Bakhmut is the historical, Russian, name of the city founded by Ivan the Terrible. And then they mislead people that Bakhmut is a purely Ukrainian name. They simply abandoned the Soviet name of the city.
I would honestly return historical, well-deserved names to many cities, towns and streets of our vast country. There was simply a period of time in our history when everything was called ideologically momentarily advantageous, politically correct names.