Swedish BMP Strf 90 for Ukraine

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Swedish BMP Strf 90 for Ukraine


Sweden has announced a new package of military-technical assistance to Ukraine. This time she is invited to transfer a certain amount of armored vehicles. In particular, it is planned to send fifty Strf 90 infantry fighting vehicles from the presence of Swedish combat units. It is assumed that such a technique will help the Kyiv regime to make up for losses and improve combat capability, but such a development of events is doubtful.



Support Processes


Despite the declared neutrality and non-bloc status, already at the end of February 2022, Sweden announced its intention to help Ukraine with the supply of military equipment. Over the next few months, several aid packages were formed, which included infantry weapons, equipment, etc.

By autumn, Sweden began to discuss the issue of supplying equipment, incl. armored combat vehicles. So, at the end of October, the Swedish press reported that the Ministry of Defense submitted to the government a closed report on the existing park of army equipment. The department studied its stocks and determined which vehicles and in what quantity could be transferred to Ukraine without compromising their own combat capability. In particular, the possibility of sending Archer self-propelled howitzers was considered.

Probably, this report was taken into account when drawing up further plans, announced only in recent weeks. Thus, in early January, Swedish Foreign Minister Tobias Billström announced the need to send armored vehicles to Ukraine, and also expressed Stockholm's readiness to provide such assistance. In particular, in this context, he mentioned the possibility of transferring Archer howitzers.

Finally, on January 19, the Department of Defense officially announced another aid package. It will include an unnamed number of Archer self-propelled guns, 50 Strf 90 infantry fighting vehicles and a number of other products of various types. The total cost of the provided property is approx. 390 million euros. This will be the biggest aid package from Sweden ever.


The dates for the start of deliveries of Swedish armored vehicles have not been named. They are going to take it from the combat units of their own army, which, in theory, allows shipment within the next few weeks. At the same time, infantry fighting vehicles require crews whose training takes time. How soon these issues will be resolved, and the Kyiv regime will be able to get Swedish armored vehicles, is not yet clear.

On a unified platform


Exactly 40 years ago, in 1983, the Swedish ground forces ordered the development of a promising infantry fighting vehicle with improved performance. In 1985, Hägglunds (now the Swedish branch of the international BAE Systems) and Bofors presented a finished project under the designation Stridsfordon 90 (“Combat Vehicle of the 90s”). Later, the export index CV 90 (Combat Vehicle) appeared.

In the second half of the eighties, several prototypes were made on a unified chassis and with different weapons or equipment. In the early nineties, tests of the main modifications of the Strf 90 were successfully completed, and the equipment received a recommendation for adoption. The operation of new infantry fighting vehicles and other armored vehicles officially began in 1993 - 30 years ago.

For its needs, Sweden produced a number of armored vehicles of the Strf 90 family. The bulk of such products were BMPs of the Strf 9040 type in modifications A / B / C. Another version of the BMP with other weapons did not advance beyond testing and did not enter service. On the same chassis, a self-propelled anti-aircraft gun, a self-propelled mortar, a command and control vehicle, a mobile artillery reconnaissance station, a repair and recovery vehicle, etc. were serially built.

A few more machines and modifications were developed specifically for export and taking into account the requirements of the international market. The most massive steel infantry fighting vehicles CV 9030 and CV 9035, as well as their upgraded versions with certain differences. Self-propelled mortars, engineering vehicles, etc. are also produced.


According to known data, since the beginning of the nineties, Hägglunds and BAE Systems have built about 1200 armored vehicles of the Strf 90 / CV 90 family of all modifications, and production continues. Several export contracts are being executed at once. The main customer of serial equipment in the past and present is Sweden. At the moment, its ground forces have approx. 550 infantry fighting vehicles.

According to the latest news, the Swedish army will transfer to the Kyiv regime 50 Strf 9040 infantry fighting vehicles it has. This is 9% of the available fleet. Such volumes of assistance will leave several Swedish units without equipment at once, but at the same time will not have a significant impact on the equipment of the ground forces as a whole.

After the shipment of the announced 50 infantry fighting vehicles, Sweden will have another 500 of these vehicles. Whether they will reduce their fleet again to help the Kyiv regime is unknown. Official Stockholm wants to support Ukraine, but at the same time intends to strengthen its own defense. How such plans will affect the fleet of armored vehicles, time will tell.

Technical issues


Stridsfordon 90 is a tracked infantry fighting vehicle of a traditional appearance with the usual functions for such equipment. An armored vehicle with a combat weight, depending on the modification, from 23 to 35 tons is capable of transporting 8 fighters under the protection of armor, landing them and supporting them with cannon and machine gun fire.

The hull and turret of the infantry fighting vehicle are welded, with spaced steel armor. All-round protection against 14,5 mm bullets is provided. Frontal armor can withstand small-caliber projectiles. The installation of additional booking modules is provided, and in this case the frontal projection can withstand 30-mm projectiles. It is also possible to strengthen mine protection.

Infantry fighting vehicles of early modifications were equipped with a Scania DSI14 diesel engine with an HP 550 power. With subsequent upgrades, more powerful power plants were introduced. The caterpillar undercarriage has a torsion bar suspension. On the highway, the BMP has a speed of up to 70 km / h. Due to the large mass, water barriers are crossed only along the fords.


The main armament of the Swedish Strf 9040 vehicles is the 40 mm Bofors L/70 automatic cannon. The gun is equipped with a magazine for 24 shells, replenished manually from packs. At the same time, the BMP carries a modern fire control system with day and night sighting channels and high accuracy in calculating data for firing. In later modifications, devices were introduced for programming fuses for promising projectiles.

Additional armament consists of a 7,62 mm Ksp m / 39 machine gun coaxial with a cannon and six 76 mm smoke grenade launchers.

In all modifications, the BMP Strf 90 is controlled by a crew of three. The driver is located in the bow of the hull, while the gunner and commander work in the turret. The aft troop compartment of the hull accommodates 8 people. Embarkation and disembarkation are carried out through the aft door. The landing party does not have the ability to fire from the vehicle.

Combat potential


The Swedish Strf 90 infantry fighting vehicle entered service 30 years ago, and it cannot be called new. However, a number of successive upgrades made it possible to maintain the characteristics at the required level, and the machine is still quite modern. Thus, high performance and compliance with current requirements are confirmed by the success of the Strf 90 / CV 90 on the international market.

The advantages of such an infantry fighting vehicle include a high level of protection provided by its own and mounted armor, an increased caliber gun with an effective FCS, etc. The capabilities and potential of this machine have been repeatedly demonstrated both in exercises and in the course of real military operations with the participation of the Swedish and other armies.

With all this, Strf 90 also has weaknesses. So, with a full set of reservations, the mass and load on the surface increase, which in a number of situations limits mobility. Mounted armor increases resistance to small-caliber artillery, but, as far as is known, does not provide protection against anti-tank weapons. The situation is similar with mine protection - heavy ammunition can at least deprive the BMP of mobility, which leads to additional risks.


The 40-mm Bofors gun, due to its caliber, shows improved performance, but has known drawbacks. The main ones are associated with a specific ammunition supply system. The 24-shot magazine seriously limits the practical rate of fire, and the need to replenish it manually distracts the crew from other tasks.

It should be recalled that the gun uses unitary 40-mm rounds, which are not in service with Ukrainian formations. Sweden and Ukraine will have to arrange the supply of such ammunition. At the same time, the next type of shot in service will further complicate the logistics and supply of units. Finally, the gun is very old, which can also create problems.

Having received Swedish infantry fighting vehicles, Ukraine will face all these problems. In addition, a number of other difficulties and risks are to be expected. First of all, Ukrainian formations will be hampered by a lack of the necessary experience. Short courses will not provide full-fledged training for crews, and they will not be able to use the potential of the equipment to the fullest.

Lack of experience and active influence on the part of the Russian army will naturally lead to losses. At the same time, each lined infantry fighting vehicle will negatively affect the general condition of a small fleet of such equipment. Despite all the additional protections, Strf 90 can be hit by portable anti-tank systems, fire tanks and artillery aviation means, etc.

However, it should be borne in mind that in terms of protection and firepower, the Strf 90 is superior to other models in service with Ukrainian formations. Fighting against such goals will be more difficult, and more efforts will have to be made to obtain the desired results. But the fight against Swedish infantry fighting vehicles is not a fundamental problem.

Predictable Consequences


In unsuccessful attempts to help the Kyiv regime, foreign states have reached the point of supplying quite modern armored vehicles with fairly high performance characteristics. So, after several months of deliberation, the Swedish government decided to provide Ukraine with its Strf 9040 infantry fighting vehicles and other armored vehicles.

How soon foreign BMPs, Swedish and from other countries, will enter the war zone is unclear. But it is already clear that they will become one of the priority targets for strikes using various means. Accordingly, the replenishment of the fleet of vehicles will be followed by new losses, which will again need to be replenished. And this time, in order to solve such a problem, foreign partners will have to reduce their own fleets of modern machines.
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  1. +17
    23 January 2023 04: 44
    It should be recalled that the gun uses unitary 40-mm rounds, which are not in service with Ukrainian formations. Sweden and Ukraine will have to arrange the supply of such ammunition. At the same time, the next type of shot in service will further complicate the logistics and supply of units. Finally, the gun is very old, which can also create problems.

    I don't understand these searches for problems. They will decide whether they will supply ammunition. I am surprised by the incomprehensible silence of our diplomats, the first persons of the state. What are you doing to prevent these deliveries??? All these blah blah blah about red lines, strikes on decision-making centers and other husks like Volodin are applicable to more powerful weapons. Yes, they wanted to spit.
    1. +19
      23 January 2023 04: 58
      Quote: YOUR
      I don't understand these searches for problems. They will decide whether they will supply ammunition. I am surprised by the incomprehensible silence of our diplomats, the first persons of the state. What are you doing to prevent these deliveries???

      And what can they really do, of those stupid things that they have not already done?
      1. +3
        23 January 2023 07: 46
        I am surprised by the incomprehensible silence of our diplomats, the first persons of the state.

        At their age and their experience, all this is seen differently ... extra fuss, maybe it will resolve itself.
      2. +4
        23 January 2023 10: 54
        Puff out your cheeks and bulge your eyes
        Ttttttttttt
      3. +11
        23 January 2023 10: 54
        hi
        And what can they really do, of those stupid things that they have not already done?


        There are 4 excellent options.

        The first option, which is being actively worked on: "how to spoil relations with Israel, forgetting that this is a powerful military industry and there are a lot of immigrants from Ukraine."
        After Lavrov's legendary speech about the Jews, according to the Israeli press, CAM "called and resolved the issue."
        It was only in Israel that they calmed down when a new specialist on Jews appeared: “Putin fired from the Security Council the author of the article about the “witch’s cauldron” and the Hasidim.
        Vladimir Putin fired Aleksey Pavlov, author of an article about the "witch's cauldron" from the Security Council
        In October 2022, Alexey Pavlov’s publication “What is being cooked in the “witch’s cauldron” about “neopagan cults” in Ukraine caused a scandal, after which Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev apologized for this article”
        https://www.rbc.ru/politics/20/01/2023/63ca83be9a7947057726254e"
        In general, things are moving smoothly from hospitals to anti-drone guns and other things needed by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

        The second option should be to recognize our active work on the Japanese front.
        Several of our diplomatic maneuvers have already succeeded, and the Ukrainian Armed Forces already have Japanese off-road vehicles straight from Japan.
        But we do not intend to stop, our diplomats continue their work.

        The third option is Switzerland. Here we also do not give up, but the Swiss hold on, like the papal guard, to the last. I'm afraid we won't be able to "put the squeeze" on Switzerland.

        The fourth option is South Korea. Here the success of our diplomacy is not yet visible. But, IMHO, "it's not yet evening", and as soon as North Korea has something "fresh from the Russian Federation", South Korea will immediately "uncover" in the supply of weapons for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

        It is clear that two of the four possible options are the result of "so-so".
        But do not forget about the successes already achieved by our diplomacy!
        Turkey: generously financed by us and receiving everything it wants from the Russian Federation - from S400 to nuclear energy and a gas hub - sends weapons to the Armed Forces of Ukraine "as if they were family", from armored cars to UAVs, both for money and "free of charge, that is, for nothing" .
        Our diplomats also achieved unprecedented success in the Scandinavian direction, where Sweden (200 years of staying away from wars) and Finland (70 years of friendly neutrality) ran to NATO with incredible speed and also send weapons for the Armed Forces of Ukraine "as relatives."
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        2. +4
          23 January 2023 16: 23
          Quote: Wildcat
          But do not forget about the successes already achieved by our diplomacy!

          And especially it is not necessary to hush them up.

          You have well described how Russia helps to expand and strengthen the Ramstein coalition. But we must not forget that, in contrast to the damned NATO, our (heavily drinking) grandfathers created our, Orthodox (partly) military union - the CSTO. How are things going there? Are money and weapons loaded in wagons, as from the other side?

          Hmm... Chairman of the Collective Security Council of the CSTO, Mr. Pashinyan, curses him. And it can be understood - when a neighboring state, not a member of the CSTO, with the support of no less than a member of NATO and the Zionist military, came to talk about territorial integrity - the named union somehow suddenly suddenly stopped breathing.

          Two other members of the CSTO conduct special military operations with each other.

          The fourth member of the CSTO sends humanitarian aid to Ukraine.

          Lukashenka... hmm...

          And NATO is bent, it's hard to argue with that.
          1. +4
            23 January 2023 17: 25
            And especially it is not necessary to hush them up.

            The most unpleasant thing is the reaction "to the successes" of those people who are "about money."
            Take, for example, the Financial Times. What do they think about the Russian Federation:
            "Western officials say Russia was significantly weakened ///// into Ukraine 11 months ago, including by sanctions and export controls. Economists believe that Russia's productive potential is steadily degrading as a result of punitive measures, setting the country back decades.
            Russian President Vladimir Putin has begun publicly admitting that Moscow is facing setbacks in Ukraine and that the conflict will take a long time. The US and its Western allies have pledged to support Ukraine for as long as it takes, and all parties are making plans for ////// to continue for years.
            ...
            Forty-six percent of the 167 experts who responded to the think tank's questions said //// or ///// Russia could happen in the next 10 years. In a separate question, 40% indicated Russia as the country they expected ///////// during that time for reasons including "/////, //////// /// /// or political ///////
            »" https://www.ft.com/content/6ceb6331-07a0-4b1f-b777-3034b288a3be
            Indecent words had to be shaded.

            Lukashenka... hmm...

            And what more could you want from Lukashenka?
            What equipment / stocks are taken and go where necessary, airfields and airspace are used as needed. In February 2022, and so on, whoever needed where needed moved around the territory of the BR. You don’t hope for the mobilization of the BR army, do you? Distributing weapons to Belarusians now would not be the best idea IMHO.

            military alliance - CSTO
            The military union, IMHO, arose as "Yalta on minimal wages", where the "zone of interests of the USSR, in the sense of the Russian Federation" was fixed on the territory of the former USSR "in terms of concordant to maintain order." At the very least, but for 30 years they managed more or less without shooting, the latest example is Kazakhstan 2022.
            Then, due to "certain problems," the CSTO was a little off, but no one became happier because of this. Okay, maybe Pashinyan has become, now he can swear - but he is the only one, lucky; but even Aliev, IMHO, will not be as happy as before, because the good hand of GDP is not the same as the hand of the "sultan".

            Russia Helps Expand and Strengthen Ramstein Coalition
            Well, what can I say - no good deed goes unpunished.
            Not that the miracle plan, let's call it conditionally "23.02.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX" was great, but Ramstein's plan, aimed at "victory of the UAF on the battlefield", seems to be writing the scriptwriters of "Game of Thrones". On some such field, the Armed Forces of Ukraine should win in order for the SVO to stop, in Kherson, Berdyansk, or which one? Even if we imagine that the plans and forecasts of Ramstein and the above-quoted shaded financial experts of the Financial Times come true - and this is impossible IMHO, shells for the Grad are now cheap - will it not be worse? If the LDNR and other territorial entities, not recognized by the conditional West, for example, a certain conditional Strelkovo-Girkinskaya Republic / Monarchy / Jamahiriya, continue their struggle for the cause of peace with what they can and how they can?
            It would be necessary to send Ramstein L Garth as consultants (I know it's difficult, but Mahatma Gandhi is also not), " Speaking about the purpose of war, it is necessary to understand well the difference between political and military purposes. These goals are different, but closely related, because countries do not wage war for the sake of the war itself, but for the sake of achieving a political goal. A military goal is only a means to a political goal. Consequently, the military goal must be determined by the political goal, and the main condition must be observed - not to set unrealizable military goals.
            The purpose of the war is to achieve a better, if only from your point of view, state of the world after the war. Therefore, when waging war, it is important to keep in mind the kind of peace you want.
            History shows that achieving a military victory is not in itself tantamount to achieving the goal of politics. But since it is primarily the military who deals with matters of war, there is naturally a tendency to forget the main purpose of the state and to identify it with the military purpose. As a consequence, whenever a war broke out, policy was too often determined by the military aim. The latter was considered the ultimate goal, and not just a means to achieve a political goal.
            Worse, due to a misunderstanding of the correct relationship between political and military goals, between politics and strategy, the military goal was distorted and oversimplified.
            "
          2. +2
            25 January 2023 00: 23
            You have well described how Russia helps to expand and strengthen the Ramstein coalition.
            No, it's not good.
            It's time to admit your own mistakes.
            He only praised the Swiss for their strict neutrality, as they "uncovered" on 24.01.2023/XNUMX/XNUMX: Explosive turnaround in arms exports: Switzerland is said to lend a helping hand to bring ammunition and tanks to Ukraine
            Over the weekend, the SP ended its resistance: the National Council's Security Policy Commission wants Germany, Denmark and Spain to be allowed to transfer weapons from Switzerland to Ukraine.
            " https://www.nzz.ch/schweiz/wende-bei-waffen-exporten-schweiz-ld.1722731?reduced=true

            This despite the fact that even in the summer the Swiss "broke only half": “Swiss law allows for the involvement of Swiss companies in international defense value chains, the Federal Council said. Transactions in this area are generally allowed, the report says, if the proportion of Swiss-made components is below a certain threshold in the final product. For Germany and In Italy, this figure is 50%.
            “The Federal Council decided to continue this practice. Such exports are compatible with the law of neutrality,” the Swiss authorities decided.
            At the same time, the authorities forbade the transfer of Swiss-made weapons, equipment or spare parts to Ukraine, the corresponding requests were received from Danish and German companies. The German side intended to transfer to Ukraine about 12,4 thousand 35-mm cartridges for the Gepard anti-aircraft tank and the Piranha III infantry fighting vehicle. The Danish side intended to supply the Armed Forces with 22 Piranha III infantry fighting vehicles. The Federal Council pointed out that "in the event that the country of destination is involved in an international armed conflict, the export of military materials should be prohibited," as this violates the neutrality clause.

            https://www.rbc.ru/politics/04/06/2022/629aaeda9a79475d3cf791e5"
    2. +5
      23 January 2023 05: 32
      This is not the first time I read about more powerful weapons. And it's interesting what that means. It seems that all means have already been used or at least tested. All that's left is strategic...
      1. +2
        23 January 2023 12: 47
        Would ask them. It looks like no one pays attention to these threats anymore.
    3. -7
      23 January 2023 06: 11
      The depletion of stocks of equipment, weapons, and ammunition is changing negotiating positions. "A kind word with a Colt is better than just a kind word, it changes the position of the interlocutor" (non-verbatim quote). 30 years since the end of the Cold War has led to a decrease in the production of the military-industrial complex of all countries, old stocks were spent in local wars. Cool and expensive weapons were developed, and mobilization weapons were used, scrap. As a result, the Europeans risk being left unarmed.
      1. +9
        23 January 2023 07: 33
        Quote: AlexisT
        The depletion of stocks of equipment, weapons, and ammunition is changing negotiating positions. "A kind word with a Colt is better than just a kind word, it changes the position of the interlocutor" (non-verbatim quote). 30 years since the end of the Cold War has led to a decrease in the production of the military-industrial complex of all countries, old stocks were spent in local wars. Cool and expensive weapons were developed, and mobilization weapons were used, scrap. As a result, the Europeans risk being left unarmed.

        Do not forget, we also have losses in equipment, and even if the “oryx” is lying in half of the cases, we have already lost more equipment than we delivered to Ukraine, which means that at least we are “disarming” faster ...
    4. +5
      23 January 2023 10: 59
      I am surprised by the incomprehensible silence of our diplomats, the first persons of the state.

      And what can they do in this situation, your suggestions?
    5. +3
      23 January 2023 17: 16
      And what do you think our diplomats should do in relation to Sweden?
    6. 0
      26 January 2023 08: 31
      While the Kremlin cuckolds are silent, these ghouls have completely lost their fear. There is no doubt about our victory, but why pay such prices? I have not seen any information about the location of the "Kremlin" children. This is not for you the Stalins, Khrushchevs and Mikoyans with Ibarruri .....
  2. +3
    23 January 2023 05: 10
    Bad BMP, good ... Everything is known in comparison with others
    1. +12
      23 January 2023 06: 30
      Quote: Tlauicol
      Bad BMP, good ... Everything is known in comparison with others

      This BMP, unfortunately, is good.
      And this is bad .
      Good armor protection against heavy fragments and head-on shells up to 30 mm. And a 40 mm gun. - any of our infantry fighting vehicles and even a tank on board in the MTO area. Security at the level of our promising BMP-3M "Dragoon". Together with the Bradley and the German infantry fighting vehicles, this is already decent. If at this level they manage to arm all three formed corps, then in the spring they will have to sweat over them.
      So it is necessary to beat ahead of time - as the frosts rise.
      1. +2
        23 January 2023 07: 37
        Quote: bayard
        Good armor protection against heavy fragments and head-on shells up to 30 mm. And a 40 mm gun. - any of our infantry fighting vehicles and even a tank on board in the MTO area. Security at the level of our promising BMP-3M "Dragoon". Together with the Bradley and the German infantry fighting vehicles, this is already decent.

        We must understand that our 2A42 no longer meets the requirements of the battlefield, and it is necessary to introduce the BM AU-220 "Baikal". Where is our "Air Defense Derivation"? It's time, I think, to put it into action. At least within the framework of military tests ....
        1. +4
          23 January 2023 08: 37
          Quote: Hagen
          We must understand that our 2A42 no longer meets the requirements of the battlefield, and it is necessary to introduce the BM AU-220 "Baikal".

          In fact, the armament of the BMP-3 and especially the 3M is quite consistent with both the security and the composition of the weapons. Against her 100 mm. not a single existing and promising infantry fighting vehicle can withstand a projectile or even an ATGM. And "Derivation-Air Defense" ... it is for that and air defense, that in the presence of shells with controlled detonation, this is precisely the means of air defense of columns on the march and in the first / second line. And in general - its place in battle formations has not yet been determined. In the same combat module, where 57 mm. a cannon with reduced ballistics ... the question arises of the amount of ammunition carried at such a rate of fire ... For me, the BMP-3 \ 3M has optimal armament, as well as the modernized "two" - due to four ATGMs on the sides of the tower.
          And the increase in the caliber of the enemy’s infantry fighting vehicles guns only says that it is urgent to switch to heavy armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles - on a tank chassis and with a tank level of armor. And today the industry has offered a huge variety of combat modules. If desired, such modules (and with a 57 mm low ballistics cannon) can even be installed on the upgraded BMP-2 and BMP-1. True, this will require the replacement of the shoulder strap ... or the adaptation of the module to the shoulder strap of the BMP 2 and BMP-1. The whole question is the expediency of such work. It is better for one and two to strengthen the armor, and leave the weapons at the same level (BMP-1 is a combat module from BTR-82A, and BMP-2M is standard).
          But for a heavy armored personnel carrier (and, if desired, a TBMP), it is best to take the T-64 tank corps that are stored in abundance, but not in demand for returning to service. Due to the specifics of their engines and Kharkov pedigree, they definitely won’t go into modernization and operation, but ... their hulls and chassis may well still serve the cause of victory.
          To do this, it is necessary to turn the hull back to front and digest the frontal wedge on the former stern - the MTO will be in front. Build up the sides, in the stern there is a convenient ramp with two boxes along the sides (for cover from flanking fire during landing and for balancing the center of mass due to the heavy nose). Onboard screens with dynamic protection of the forehead and sides, as a combat module, a module from the BTR-82A is quite enough. Such an TBTR will be able to carry up to 12+ troops under tank-level protection. Welders will have to work hard, but it's still easier and cheaper than making one from scratch. The engine can be taken from the T-72 of the previous generation (860 l / s) - there are plenty of them in warehouses and their power will be enough, because such an armored personnel carrier will weigh about 34 - 35 tons. The T-64 suspension will breathe a sigh of relief (the first weight of the T- 64 was just 34 tons with a margin of 4-5 tons), agility will be ensured. Such TBTRs will be able to advance to the place of dismounting along with tanks. They will be able not only to deliver troops to the battlefield and take them out of it, but also to evacuate the wounded, bring ammo, support fire during the landing and during the battle (30 mm is serious).
          And I don’t think TBMP on this chassis (and indeed in general) is necessary at all, its role will be taken over by the Terminators, which during the SVO have already shown themselves not so much as BMPTs, but as ShMPPs (assault infantry support vehicle). In conjunction with the TBTR (with the landing force) - the Terminator ShMPP - the MBT, we get an excellent set of vehicles for assault units. I have been writing about the need for such a TBMP all recent years from the experience of fighting in the Donbass, but ... maybe even now it will come to pass that it is necessary to act only and precisely in this way. The "Terminator" has already found its place in battle formations directly "by experience", the lack of highly protected equipment for infantry at the forefront is already buzzing about the need for HEAVY armored personnel carriers with tank-level protection. And only the transformation of the T-64 from storage bases (there are from 1500 to 2500 of them) into TBTR allows this to be done relatively quickly and without diverting the capacities of the main tank-building capacities - by means of a conventional tank repair plant. Yes, such a repair plant will have to be equipped and contractors involved, but the main facilities will deal with their orders, and the TBTR will appear in the troops.
          I estimate the Army's need for such TBTRs as "about 1000 - 1500 pieces." , but for starters, even one or two hundred would have seriously facilitated the assault work in the approaching offensive. The next decade will be difficult, there will be a lot of fighting, so no "Armat and T-15"! Only proven chassis and components available in stock and serial production. TBTR can be molded from the hulls of both T-64 and ... T-55 (and there are at least 1500 of them on the bases). And it will work out just fine too. It is from this Soviet backlog that the TBTR hulls are cooked.
      2. +9
        23 January 2023 10: 22
        The question is which ones will be given. In any case, it will be one of the strongest in terms of durability (along with Bradley), and it will survive covering the artillery.

        The SLA allows you to operate day, night, in difficult conditions. The cannon is not only the defeat of light armored vehicles, but also the support of the infantry. Under bombs from Bofors, even in a capital house, it is very uncomfortable to sit, and the capital house itself will fall apart and burn out very quickly. And we are talking about cast iron, without any programmers.

        Oh, and don't forget that Sweden is one of the operators. There are also Norway, Denmark, the Netherlands, Finland and Estonia. They can also chip in, who are 5 cars, and who are 20-25.
        1. +2
          23 January 2023 11: 05
          Quote: donavi49
          Oh, and don't forget that Sweden is one of the operators. There are also Norway, Denmark, the Netherlands, Finland and Estonia. They can also chip in, who are 5 cars, and who are 20-25.

          Maybe these are just the first signs, or maybe ... their older brothers decided to hold on to the horses - the United States promised to supply 100 Bradleys, but in reality 59 pieces were announced in Ramstein. If now b / d are not sharply activated, maybe before spring they will also put new ones on all three buildings. In the meantime, because of the "roar" from Moscow and the "Shell" on the roof, it seems they decided to hold their horses back ... They try to cook the frog slowly.
  3. Eug
    +4
    23 January 2023 07: 42
    An interesting car, as for me, if you add informational "awareness" (during actions under the "guidance" of the Strykers), it can create a lot of problems. The main disadvantage is the lack of anti-tank capabilities, although when fired from "side-to-back", a 40-mm cannon can seriously complicate the life of tank crews...
    1. +3
      23 January 2023 10: 00
      Spikes are put on them .... At least in the latest Swedish versions.
  4. +8
    23 January 2023 09: 45
    These articles accidentally or deliberately omit the issue of auxiliary systems, such as fire control systems, sights, a communication system .. And in a modern conflict, this is the basis. No matter how many millimeters you have, if your car is blind, then you will not do anything. How many conversations there were about analogue communication systems. But in fact, people should buy walkie-talkie fighters from Ali Express.
    (by the way, for reference, during the war in Iraq, half of the lost bradleys were destroyed by their own fire, after which conclusions were drawn to create a system for global control of the battlefield by GPS .. Have we drawn any conclusions? Not sure)
  5. +6
    23 January 2023 09: 57
    In my opinion - the best BMP for today and the best autocannon.
  6. 0
    23 January 2023 23: 43
    Quote: zyablik.olga
    Quote: YOUR
    I don't understand these searches for problems. They will decide whether they will supply ammunition. I am surprised by the incomprehensible silence of our diplomats, the first persons of the state. What are you doing to prevent these deliveries???

    And what can they really do, of those stupid things that they have not already done?

    Diplomats can't do anything right now. Diplomacy is basically dead. Now everything is decided only by force.
  7. 0
    24 January 2023 06: 43
    It should be recalled that the gun uses unitary 40-mm rounds, which are not in service with Ukrainian formations. Sweden and Ukraine will have to arrange the supply of such ammunition. At the same time, the next type of shot in service will further complicate the logistics and supply of units.

    And what prevents re-equipping an infantry fighting vehicle with a 30mm gun? Global alterations are not required and it is more common.
    1. 0
      24 January 2023 08: 41
      But nobody is embarrassed by the calibers of NATO in the rifle? Artillery? Tanks? On Bradley -25mm, on Leo 120mm smoothbore, on Chieftain -120mm rifled, on AMX 105mm - not NATO.
  8. 0
    24 January 2023 13: 33
    What time already. If they announced it, then the crews and technical equipment are already ready, the war has been going on for more than a month (!). They simply put their public before the fact.
  9. 0
    24 January 2023 17: 33
    And if these BMPs do not accidentally reach Ukraine? Drown, for example. Together with those who transport it (equipment). Or fall off the bridge. Or is the Russian command interested precisely in the fact that the "Swedes" take part in the battles against our troops?
    1. 0
      26 January 2023 08: 36
      Well, if you believe in a world government, then the Kremlin's actions fit perfectly into the script he wrote ....
  10. 0
    25 January 2023 00: 41
    ideally, to form units in the company in Ukraine: a platoon on Marders, a platoon - on Bradley, a platoon - on Strf 90. Zampotech immediately hangs himself))))
  11. 0
    26 January 2023 16: 18
    And where are the most famous turretless Swedish S-103 tanks?
  12. 0
    28 January 2023 22: 13
    I don’t know what’s wrong with this BMP, but most of the products from the Swedes are overloaded with unnecessary unfinished functions and have mediocre reliability.
  13. 0
    April 6 2023 07: 22
    Marder is still better, except for the gun, of course.