German intelligence reported significant losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Artemovsk

During the battles for the city of Artemovsk (Ukrainians call it Bakhmut), located in the part of the Donetsk People's Republic (Russia) occupied by Ukrainian forces, the Armed Forces of Ukraine lose hundreds of soldiers every day. This is confirmed by the German Federal Intelligence Service (BND), a special report of which is cited by the German magazine Spiegel.

The German intelligence service held a secret meeting at which it told the invited deputies of the German Bundestag about the situation in Donbass. According to the intelligence service, what is happening cannot but cause concern. In Artemovsk, Ukrainian formations are suffering huge losses.

As emphasized in German intelligence, the number of dead and wounded is calculated by "three-digit numbers" every day. But the fall of Artemovsk will lead to disastrous consequences for the entire line of defense that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have been building for years in the occupied part of Donbass.

The Spiegel edition recalls that Ukraine demands from German Chancellor Olaf Scholz to decide on the transfer of the Armed Forces of Ukraine tanks Leopard. So far, Berlin has stubbornly refused to supply its tanks to the Kyiv regime.

Interestingly, the Ukrainian leaders themselves and the media controlled by them are trying to convince the West about the courageous resistance of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Artemivsk and other sectors of the front. But American and European analysts already understand how sad this situation is for Kyiv.

Recently, a representative of the US State Department even tried to "calm down" Kyiv and the Western public, noting that the loss of Soledar and even Artemovsk would allegedly not affect the state of hostilities and would not worsen the situation of Ukrainian troops. However, the German intelligence service is probably more objective in its assessments based on information received from undercover sources.

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[voice of reason]

Intelligence of NATO countries has learned to read Russian news channels and draws unique information from there. Some, especially experienced residents, even know how to subscribe to the telegram channels of Russian military correspondents ...

[Plate]

And especially highly qualified personnel are even kept on an account on VO!

[The black]

They lie, did Taras and the ghost of Kyiv, half of the Russian army is standing, and the "glorified" cyborgs also do not slurp cabbage soup with bast shoes

[Soviet Moldavan]

Today Ukraine celebrates the day of memory of the defenders of the Donetsk airport.

Even the commander of the Joint Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Lieutenant General Sergei Naev, spoke on this occasion.

“Cyborgs, he says, survived, concrete did not survive.”

I immediately remembered the “cyborg” that was captured by the Wagner PMC during active battles for Popasna.

“I jumped out of the basement. Since I was brought at night, I did not know during the day where our position was. I ran, stopped, heard the whistle of mines. Then he heard voices near the house, ran to the voices. They let me out in two rounds. I fell, started shouting: "Don't shoot, I'm mine." Then someone climbed out from behind the fence, said: "Come on, jump over the fence." I jumped over, they told me: "Drop your weapons!" I quit and now I ended up here,” the cyborg told (https://t.me/max_shugaley/341) the circumstances of his capture to Maxim Shugaley.

Such is it, Ukrainian concrete. Not even stronger than these "cyborgs".

[former soldier]

someone climbed out from behind the fence, said: "Come on, jump over the fence." I jumped

Not every cyborg can jump over a fence. Apparently in Britain they trained for a long time.

[Dingo]

Not every cyborg can jump over a fence.

Not. you are mistaken ... When in someone else's garden - and behind the dog ... The fence will seem like such a trifle - you jump over at once, almost without touching ... True, we didn’t know about “cyborgs” then - we were 10-12 years old ... :-)))

[Vyacheslav57]

The German intelligence service held a secret meeting at which they told invited deputies of the German Bundestag about the situation in Donbass. According to the intelligence service, what is happening cannot but cause concern. In Artemovsk, Ukrainian formations are suffering huge losses.

Now the situation with the rejection of the German Bundestag, and then Scholz, of the decision to transfer tanks to Ukraine is clear. Slowly begins a new operation " Save yourself who can " . They still have time to drink blood from us, but the separation of old Europe and Eastern Europe is clearly beginning to be traced.

[lopvlad]

Quote: Black

They lie, did Taras and the ghost of Kyiv, half of the Russian army are standing,

Naturally, after all, it is a priori impossible to kill those who in nature have never existed.

[Soviet Moldavan]

There are reports of the successful continuation of the offensive of our troops in the Zaporozhye direction. It is announced about the capture of the village of Malye Shcherbaki and the battles for neighboring Shcherbaki to the west of Orekhov.

Earlier it was reported about the capture of Lobkove to the east of Kamenskoe.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: voice of reason

Intelligence of NATO countries has learned to read Russian news channels and draws unique information from there.

The first of a "sleeper cell" under the joint control of the CIA and an allied spy service infiltrated Russia in 2016, according to a former US military official and a US person who was briefed on the campaign. After infiltrating Russia in 2016, new groups infiltrated the country over the next few years.
Two days before the February invasion of Ukraine, the allied spy service through which the CIA conducts a subversive campaign used a covert communications system to activate its "sleeper cells" throughout Russia. "The elite level teams with whom we have the best relationship almost always get aerial surveillance support for major sabotage operations" behind the Russians, said a person briefed on the campaign, adding that some of the ISR (intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance) are models that have never been publicly disclosed.

[Dingo]

these are models that have never been revealed publicly.

Now this is closer to the topic...

[topol717]

Quote: voice of reason

Intelligence of NATO countries has learned to read Russian news channels and draws unique information from there

Good intelligence is, first of all, an analysis of all available information that is obtained from free sources. The most important thing is to be able to separate the crumbs of the important from the flow of infopomoy.

[Maz]

While this is the case, in general, the reserves went to Bakhmut and under Marinka and Torskoye with Seversk, also under Chasov Yar and Konstantinovka - THANKS TO WAGNER! The front in the Zaporozhye direction was exposed, there is no defense there as deep as near Donetsk, and ours went to Orekhovo - a logistical crossroads - five roads converge in this town. And the war in our country is still, like a hundred years ago, going along the roads. And so far, thank God and the Russian soldier, everything is working out - 4 km per day, after 200 meters per day in Soledar, this is a huge and long-awaited jump forward. Keep it up.

[Uprun]

The report has two goals - the transfer of tanks or quietly dump, without attracting the attention of partners, such as after an audit of the state of their Bundeswehr is very deplorable. Everything we could, everything we could...

[dmi.pris1]

Nobody argues about the huge losses, but for the sake of getting German weapons, you can draw four-digit numbers every day.

[Bolt cutter]

As emphasized in German intelligence, the number of dead and wounded is calculated by "three-digit numbers" every day.

The same thing was told to me by the Ukrainians who had faded to defend Londonets-on-Thames.

[dmi.pris1]

And why be surprised. They at least built Londinium So these "Kyiv legions" are in place

[svp67]

German intelligence reported significant losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Artemovsk

Yes, you, what ... It looks like the laurels of "British scientists" do not allow "German intelligence" to sleep. It remains only to explain where they get this data from? What is rummaging through the papers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine?

[oleg-nekrasov-19]

While the intelligence agencies of NATO countries are counting the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Artemivsk, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have begun active offensive operations in the Zaporozhye direction.

[dmi.pris1]

It remains to wish our guys good luck. In three directions. Near Seversk, Artemovsk and Orezovo

[Prjanik]

Is it because there such a tin with mobilization began? Need more meat, plug the holes at the front. How many fights with untrained and unmotivated fighters is another matter.

[Alex242]

During the battles for the city of Artemovsk (Ukrainians call it Bakhmut), located in the part of the Donetsk People's Republic (Russia) occupied by Ukrainian forces, the Armed Forces of Ukraine lose hundreds of soldiers every day. This is confirmed by the German Federal Intelligence Service (BND), a special report of which is cited by the German magazine Spiegel.

Ukrainians do not admit this yet ...

[Maks1995]

Life is everyday.
yesterday they wrote - a hundred soldiers a day.
Today - already "hundreds".

And so I came across a note about the battles for Artemovsk back in the middle of last summer ...
It's been half a year already...

[gromit]

The original source says that the BND considers the possible loss of Bakhmut a serious problem for the Ukrainian line of defense, but also indicates that both sides are suffering high losses.

Throw out the last 4 lines from the article and now we are already winning, the enemy is demoralized, the defense is broken.
And if you don’t throw it away - here’s an article for discrediting you.
Where should poor editors go?)

[Rage66]

The BND said that the Russian army operates near Artemovsk with "merciless cruelty"

[azkolt]

It is not the Ukrainians who call him that, the Russians call him that!

[Viktor Sergeev]

Well, what do they care about the murdered serfs? More will die and less will be left when Ukraine starts to be divided.

[Sergei N 58912062]

German intelligence reported significant losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Artyomovsk

The greater the loss of VSUk, the better! That's where they go! Bandera has been waiting for them all there for a long time.