Rostec to supply four experimental engines for advanced passenger aircraft TVRS-44 Ladoga by the end of the year

The United Engine Corporation (UEC), which is part of Rostec, will supply four experimental engines for the advanced TVRS-44 Ladoga aircraft. This was reported by the press service of the state corporation.

The development of a new engine for the Ladoga aircraft is being carried out on the basis of the St. Petersburg enterprise UEC-Klimov, the company received the task to develop the power plant in 2021. The new engine is based on the TV7-117ST-01 developed for the Il-114-300 passenger aircraft. Unlike the base engine, the new engine has a closed oil system and a new alternator with a higher speed, as well as other design changes that make fuel consumption minimal for aircraft of this class. Claimed takeoff power - 2400 hp

By the end of the year, the UEC will hand over four engines to aircraft manufacturers for preliminary tests, including those in the aircraft. Two of them will be ready in the summer, two more at the end of the year.

Aircraft TVRS - 44, named "Ladoga" - is a turboprop regional passenger aircraft in the class of 40-50 seats, designed to replace the fleet of obsolete aircraft of this class. Developed at JSC "Ural plant of civil aviation"(UZGA) in Yekaterinburg on the basis of the Czechoslovak L-610 aircraft created back in the days of the Soviet Union, which never went into production.

The aircraft is planned to be put into production in 2024-2025; its design uses many components and components from other Russian aircraft already put into production. This speeds up the creation of the aircraft, and also reduces the cost of its serial production.

Comments

[Orange Bigg]

Now in our country there is a revival of the full line of passenger aircraft, "Ladoga" will occupy a niche between the Il-114-300 and L-410: CR929 and / or remotorized on the PD-35 Il-96-400M -> MS-21 -> Superjet NEW -> Il-114-300 -> TVRS-44 "Ladoga" -> L-410 -> LMS-901 "Baikal".
Not only.

JSC United Engine Corporation (UEC, part of Rostec) has produced the first serial Russian high-capacity turbine GTD-110M for Udarnaya TPP. Vladimir Artyakov, First Deputy General Director of Rostec, told TASS about this.
According to him, from 2024 UEC intends to produce two turbines a year and gradually increase production.

https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/149852/

GTD-110M is a serial high-power gas turbine engine designed for use as part of gas turbine power and combined cycle plants at generating facilities of the Unified Energy System of Russia. Previously, turbines of similar power were imported from abroad. The engine is designed to drive electric generators as part of gas turbine power and combined cycle plants with an electric power of 115 MW.

[Nexcom]

There will be no L410. The Russian owner sold the plant in the Czech Republic and a share in the business. So there is no one else to supply L410 aircraft kits to UZGA for assembly.

[Egeny]

And why do we need Czech constructs, there are few of our own?

[Egeny]

Well, it’s good that they started doing their own thing, otherwise they bought engines from the French, which picked up all the dust during takeoff and clung to the ground during landing.

[Rzzz]

What kind of engines are these? What kind of story is this?

[rocket757]

Rostec to supply four experimental engines for advanced passenger aircraft TVRS-44 Ladoga by the end of the year

Small, regional aviation must develop, have reliable aircraft of domestic designs, assembled at domestic factories.

[volodimer]

now all kinds of Bombardier fly on such lines and the last An are not killed, even the Yaks are gone. But you have to have yours.
And yet, how I liked the Yak-40. The plane is beautiful. I felt a legacy from the design bureau, from fighters.

[Ulan.1812]

Quote: volodimer

now all kinds of Bombardier fly on such lines and the last An are not killed, even the Yaks are gone. But you have to have yours.
And yet, how I liked the Yak-40. The plane is beautiful. I felt a legacy from the design bureau, from fighters.

I flew on it. From Irkutsk to Chulman airport. Yakutia.
There was an unpaved strip in Chulman then. End of the seventies.
Very stable, no shaking or dips.
And he flew the Yak-42. Great car.
MS-21 seems to have been made based on it.

[ch28k38]

Several times I flew on the Yak-40 from Vladivostok to Khabarovsk for a transfer on a direct line to Leningrad. A very pleasant impression, especially from a steep climb.

[vlad106]

Quote: rocket757

aviation must develop, have reliable aircraft, of domestic designs, assembled at domestic factories.

EXACTLY! and from its components.
By the way, IL 76, IL 86 where are they? Nice spacious interior.
And not that cramped narrow Superjet

[antivirus]

Even a little, even a teaspoon is already good.

...
The song about import substitution, substitution, pinch and save.
Who will pinch who? - everyone laugh themselves

[Havoc]

Quote: antivirus

Even a little, even a teaspoon is already good.

...
The song about import substitution, substitution, pinch and save.
Who will pinch who? - everyone laugh themselves

Apparently, Russian is not native for you, I actually never pay attention to mistakes, but here .....

[ch28k38]

"Oh you, great and mighty, truthful Russian language!"

[Egeny]

Come on, you got it, so they began to slowly crawl out of your ass.
Even if it's already being released, it's good.

[Genry]

... on the basis of the Czechoslovak L-610 aircraft created back in the days of the Soviet Union, which never went into production.

Already on the go, they lied about: "based on ... L-610."
From the 610th, only the idea remained. Everything is completely new development. The dimension of the aircraft has increased, the design is in accordance with the requirements for certification under the new rules, the composition of components is completely domestic.

[Zaurbek]

It is similar in weight to An140. As I understand it, deformed theater engines of the same power will be installed on IL114 and the first 114 will be with weak theater engines. And the calculated theater of operations will be cut further and IL112 will be waiting.

[bayard]

Quote: Zaurbek

As I understand it, deformed theaters of the same power will be installed on IL114 and the first 114 will be with weak theaters. And the calculated theater of operations will be cut further and IL112 will be waiting.

On the contrary, derated (with reduced power) engines with a take-off thrust of 2400 l / s go to Ladoga. And on the Il-114 with a takeoff power of 2800 l / s and up to 3500 l / s, the extreme mode. But the engine is born hard and with sacrifices, and even though fanfares and promises are thundering again ... only time will tell what came out of this piece of iron.

[Eug]

As far as I know, the Zarorozh theater had a problem with the front shaft exit. I wonder if it's "closed"?

[couch]

thank God that, although not much, they began to engage in domestic aircraft construction. True, the pace is not modern, but even so!

[Deon59]

It was better to continue to produce An 24, An 12.

[Zaurbek]

How? An140 could not be quietly released .. although the demand for it is large and the license was also sold to Iran. An12 was stopped in the USSR.

[Deon59]

China is releasing an analogue of An 12 and do not bathe.

[Ded60]

Yeah. And also PO-2, IL-12, 14, 18, Yak-12 .... etc.

[Deon59]

And what is better than IL 14 is produced by Russia, you can keep silent about IL 18, we will not see anything similar. Brains are no longer enough, with raking hands they thought to build a new world.

[Egeny]

Oh don't tell me. I didn’t fly on the An-12, but I had to on the 24th. The poor man flapped his wings so much that he thought everything, the end had come. But everything worked out, she's alive.)

[ermak124.0]

nonsense is not necessary. the composite wing of new aircraft is even more elastic and therefore "waving like that" is stronger there)))

[Ulan.1812]

Quote from Deon59

It was better to continue to produce An 24, An 12.

And even better U-2 or Farman. Walk so walk.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

The new engine is based on the TV7-117ST-01 developed for the Il-114-300 passenger aircraft.

That's just one line allows you to once again draw the attention of the investigating authorities to the scam with the serial production of IL-114, for which at the very end of 2016 they allocated 50 billion (and another 550 million a month ago). Our rich state spends money from its rubber budget on three aircraft of the same class at once (IL-112, IL-114, and L-610). Where are you, investigators? Why is Dmitry Rogozin with his happiness still at large?

[Orange Bigg]

Why are you not talking at once in the Ukrainian move? Why?

PS At once, this is not a swear word. So that there are no complaints.

[Genry]

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

the state spends money from its rubber budget on three aircraft of the same class at once (IL-112, IL-114, and L-610).

IL-112 is a ramp transporter, a fat man, especially relevant for the military.
IL-114 passenger 64 pax or a truck for 6 tons, with good aerodynamics, suitable for patrolling.
L-610 - no. There is TVRS-44, for 44 pax or combined load, for airfields with a dirt strip.

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

Why is Dmitry Rogozin with his happiness still at large?

And what did you drag Dmitry Olegovich into here ?! There is nothing to hang dogs on him here.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: Genry

And what did you drag Dmitry Olegovich into here. There is nothing to hang dogs on him here.

If not in the topic, then chew better. If you want to be in the subject, then study the material before knocking on the clave.
If you are so anxiously interested in the differences between aircraft, then first try to understand such a scientific concept - Classification.

[Genry]

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

If not in the topic, then chew better. If you want to be in the subject, then study the material before knocking on the clave.
If you are so anxiously interested in the differences between aircraft, then first try to understand such a scientific concept - Classification.

You have worked so much with your hands here, but you have not said anything concrete.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: Genry

You have worked so much with your hands here, but you have not said anything concrete.

I have worked enough on this topic since 2016 (at VO). Study specifically. By the way, what specifics do you expect from me? In my commentary on this article, I quite specifically expressed my lack of understanding of the inactivity of the investigating authorities regarding a specific case - the mass production of IL-114, for which the state allocated 2016 billion in 50. Where are the serial IL-114s? How much more specific?

[senima56]

Agree! I also remember how Dmitry Olegovich Rogozin promised Putin that "the IL-114 will go into production in 2018!" So there is something to ask Rogozin for! And in general, it is necessary to introduce an article "For nonsense (fooling the Nord)" into the Criminal Code.

[bayard]

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

I quite specifically expressed my lack of understanding of the inactivity of the investigating authorities

Vladimir, firstly, you expressed an absolute misunderstanding in the classification and purpose of aircraft, and secondly, you still have not understood the main problem of the Russian aircraft industry - engines.
Initially, they were going to install a Canadian engine on the IL-114, which was just right in terms of power and characteristics ... well, they ordered an appropriate engine for Motr-Sich, it also had to go for the Mi-38. The engine was made there, but it was tested only in the fall of 2014 (putting it on the Mi-8 and setting a world record for a static ceiling for helicopters).
In 2014, there was a coup in Ukraine and goodbye cooperation. Canadian ones also became inaccessible and the pangs of creativity began.

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

in 2016, the state allocated 50 billion.

Is it only money that decides in such cases? See how many dances with tambourines were around PD-14. And its mass production in the required volumes has not yet been established. And with this it turned out even more difficult ... people died (on an experimental Il-112). Now it seems that they have finished and issued a certificate ... let's see.
Regarding "aircraft of the same class", it seems that a colleague explained to you, but you did not understand. I'll try easier.
IL-114 is a short-haul passenger aircraft for airfields with a hard surface. LOW-LAND.
IL-112 - cargo / military transport, with a ramp (!). HIGH-PLANE capable of being operated from unpaved airfields.
"Ladoga" is an An-24 class passenger aircraft, a short-haul HIGH-PLANE capable of being operated from unpaved airfields.
Now it is clear ? Each aircraft has its own niche of application, although they are in a close weight category. And they will have one type of engine, only the Ladoga will have a derated (lower power), which should have a positive effect on the resource, fuel consumption and reliability. And it seems to me that "Ladoga" with such an engine has every chance to fly before the rest. And if suddenly the IL-114 "does not shoot", then in principle it can be replaced by the "Ladoga". But not in everything, and there will not be a full-fledged replacement.
And the younger Rogozin was transferred to another job for his "successes" in the aircraft industry. In feudal capitalism it is not accepted otherwise - the caste of untouchables (although in India this phrase means completely different).

[Raymond]

Airbus has already made an aircraft of this class (since you are talking about a class), it is ATR 42, different versions from ATR 42-200 to ATR 42-600. Considering the installed power, the operation of these machines in the "short circuit" mode is unprofitable. You will notice that as a result, most companies operating ATR 42 (42 seat) aircraft also have ATR 72 (72 seat) aircraft, which use very advantageous routes as compensation.
Thus, success is brought not by one aircraft, but by a family of aircraft.

[Arkady007]

bayard
I read your thoughts. I won't comment on anything.
I can only say that in aviation there is no word ramp.

[Eug]

But there is a cargo ramp (or loading ramp).

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: bayard

IL-114 is a short-haul passenger aircraft for airfields with a hard surface. LOW-LAND.
IL-112 - cargo / military transport, with a ramp (!). HIGH-PLANE capable of being operated from unpaved airfields.

Quote: bayard

Now it is clear ?

My dear, I was categorically against the allocation of 50 billion for mass production back in 2016. Even then, I explained everything why there would be no serial IL-114. And you, as I see it, are completely off topic, and still have the courage to ask me if this is clear to me.
Golubchik, the initiators of the allocation of these 50 billion (accomplices in the cut), led by D. Rogozin, convinced the whole world in 2016 that the IL-114 would be remarkably operated on unpaved runways. So why are you writing your crap here now? Do you understand this?!

[bayard]

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

My dear, I was categorically against the allocation of 50 billion for mass production back in 2016. Even then, I explained everything why there would be no serial IL-114.

Judging by the successes of Manturov’s activities, even now nothing can be singled out for him, because he failed everything, but did not diminish the fanfare of arrogance. I have doubts about the new engine, which is why I wrote that I hope that it will take off, except perhaps to Ladoga, where a derated modification is provided. And if this is not another cut.
If we are not talking about cuts and the effectiveness of the power system, but about the relevance and expediency of these aircraft, then each of them has its own niche. The IL-114 was created in the USSR and not at all for unpaved airfields, but as a more economical replacement for the Yak-40 on nearby highways and at the same time more spacious than the An-24. What Rogozin, a journalist by education, was carrying, pushing him to replace the An-24, is heresy and the desire to obtain funding. And I did not defend this ... citizen at all. But now Civil Aviation and Aerospace Forces need aircraft for all three niches - an economical short-haul propeller, a transport aircraft and a passenger one for unpaved airfields. And then at least resume the construction of the An-26 and An-24 with a new avionics, at least bring these new ones, but the planes just have to be.
And let the Cheka deal with saw cuts, treason and other embezzlement after the next revolution, before which the authorities with such an approach will still dance.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: bayard

But now Civil Aviation and Aerospace Forces need aircraft for all three niches - an economical short-haul propeller, a transport aircraft and a passenger one for unpaved airfields. And then at least resume the construction of the An-26 and An-24 with a new avionics, at least bring these new ones, but the planes just have to be.

Do you know why the beautiful "parquet" turboprop SAAB 2000 did not find its niche? Could not stand the competition with other "SUVs". I happened to fly on it to Voronezh from Moscow and St. Petersburg. Our IL-114 definitely loses to him. So, the Swede could not stand the competition in all markets. And how the patrol is still used. And the IL-114 SUV will have to compete with the Superjet SUV. Those. will have to compete with the aircraft, which is already mass-produced. As a passenger, I will vote for the Superjet. Air carriers have already voted in 2014 (they were then asked about the IL-114). Why was this IL-114 needed? Even then, experts also recommended buying back the reserve from the Uzbeks and collecting patrol aircraft from it for the Russian Defense Ministry. Only. They did not recommend launching it into a series. It's a long story. Read. I won't chew on the old. And it took IL-114 for the cut, which took place. And sawyers spit on my common sense. They have their own common sense.

[bayard]

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

Air carriers have already voted in 2014 (they were then asked about the IL-114). Why was this IL-114 needed?

The IL-114 was developed back in the USSR, when they knew how to count and looked into the future. Replace the Yak-40 on the corresponding routes, which, although good, consumed fuel many times more than screw fuel. And if in the European part of the country, where the flying public prefers comfort and speed, they really don’t want it, then on routes beyond the Urals (and not only), where the public is simpler, such cars are needed precisely for the revival of regional airlines. Il-114 fuel on the same route will gobble up 2 - 2+ times less than the "Superjet", and it will be cheaper to purchase, so tickets for such (at normal pricing) will be seriously lower, which means they will become available to a larger number passengers. And we have regions where you can’t get out except by plane. So, not only as a patrolman, but also as a tool for the revival of regional aviation and the revival of domestic airlines.
I am an air defense officer in the past (in the distant past) and I remember on which routes the Yak-40 and An-24 worked. It is on these routes that the IL-114 is needed.
Why did the airlines refuse?
Yes, because now they work only on the most profitable routes and categorically refuse to go on commercially less profitable ones. For domestic / regional airlines, either regional airlines will have to be created, or large airlines will have to be forced to do business that is not only beneficial for themselves, but also necessary for the state.
What else is not interesting for the IL-114 to large airlines?
For those on a turboprop, they will have to separately train pilots and technical staff, expand stocks of spare parts and other troubles ... This is understandable.
The more versatile "Ladoga" (high-wing for unpaved strips) could and could become an alternative, but ... it is seriously smaller, takes fewer passengers. Yes, and he did not fly yet, unlike the same IL-114.
And for the "SUV" IL-114, the strip is needed shorter than for the "Superjet". Here on the strip of the island of Matua, he would probably have sat down and taken off. And "Superjet" - hardly. And we have many such places.

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

IL-114 for cutting, which took place.

You can cut on everything if you are insured against liability, and you can buy everything you need over the hill. It is possible to saw and offer the Barrier to the unemployed for 8 billion rubles. (the cost of RTOs or 40% of the cost of the entire corvette in the configuration), you can lay the UDC in Kerch 2,5 years ago, get 100+ billion rubles. for this as an advance payment ... and nothing can be built during this time ... a lot of things can be done. It is possible to create and master trillions of "national projects" for cutting ... But this will not negate the fact that Russia needs planes. And there is nowhere to buy them. Just build it yourself. And that's exactly what I'm talking about.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: bayard

But this will not negate the fact that Russia needs planes. And there is nowhere to buy them. Just build it yourself. And that's exactly what I'm talking about.

So after all and I about the same. And all the experts who opposed the "serial cutting" also spoke about this 8 years ago. You read their suggestions. They also advocated the production of domestic aircraft. The scammers very competently led you to your current point of view, although you do not notice it. Not surprising, because PR is the main weapon of scammers. Yes, 50 billion has already been spent. And you want to get at least "a tuft from a black sheep." But the trouble is that from a black sheep even this tuft will be a black one. And no rearrangement of beds will change the situation. We need to change the system. And you should start by investigating this scam, which was obvious from the beginning. Then publicly punish the perpetrators, if such are identified. And if there is no investigation, and the perpetrators are not identified, then not only will there be no planes, but there will be nothing at all, and there will be no state within its existing borders either. The choice is limited - either build or cut.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: bayard

Il-114 fuel on the same route will gobble up 2 - 2+ times less than the "Superjet", and he himself will be cheaper to purchase

By the way, how did you calculate the comparative fuel consumption? I see that you are not an engineer, which means you were not taught the basics of economics at the university. Why suddenly it will be "cheaper"? And what is normal pricing in today's market?
This is how you were "programmed". Don't be offended. We are all programmed to one degree or another, especially if we "do not own the topic." Why do you think V. Putin suddenly appointed D. Rogozin as chief of the defense industry? Yes, because he is the same person as you and I. He is also programmable in the same way, especially in matters that he does not own at all. This is life.

[Eug]

IL-114 is a low-wing .. I wonder how low the wing limits the diameter of the propeller?

[Raymond]

If you can't answer questions, we don't expect anything.
After the Crimean crisis in 2014, the Russian Air Force, which planned to replace its old An-26 and An-72 with the An-140, is looking for an upgraded version of the Il-114. In this regard, President Vladimir Putin orders the resumption of production of the Il-114 using components only of Russian origin in order to avoid Western sanctions.
This is how the upgraded version starts. As a result, the Il-114mp will be created for the naval patrol version intended for the Russian Navy, and the Il-114-300 for the civilian version. The Russian State Transport Leasing Corporation (GTLK) wants to order 50 of these aircraft to equip Russian companies.

The first flight will take place on December 16, 2020 at the Moscow-Zhukovsky airport. The aircraft is equipped with upgraded Klimov TV7-117 engines. Certification is scheduled for 2022, with Polar Airlines scheduled for entry into service in 2023 and production of 100 aircraft in 2030.

[Zaurbek]

112 and 114 should be unified by engines and systems. The fuselage is set by customers and cargo dimensions. And 114 should be economical. 112 - ramp. IN THE USSR THERE WAS AN24, AN26, L410, AN2.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Zaurbek, I am not engaged in educational program (technical). I'm not interested and I won't do it. I am a graduate of Voenmekh 1978. Today I am already a sofa pensioner. What and to whom do I have to prove? That's it. If someone does not understand something specific (which is natural) and does not want to understand it, then let him go through the woods. I will not stoop to his level. I know a lot of what happened and why it happened. I know a lot of what is, and why it is so. My comments are for the very few who might be interested. The rest - the forest!

[Wedmak]

Our rich state spends money from its rubber budget on three aircraft of the same class at once (IL-112, IL-114, and L-610).

IL-112 is it a passenger one? Has the IL-114 already become a military transport? And what side did you drag the L-610 here, which did not see the series?

[Ded60]

The guano thrower got out. Under what nickname did you work out the servile training manual before, khokhlik?

[Galleon]

In my opinion, the title is too loud: Rostec... The work is carried out by a specific design bureau and a specific plant. The UEC demands periodic reports from them and comes with checks, and Rostec recalls that design bureau and the plant once a year before the holiday. It's wrong somehow: Some work, while others boast.

[wladimirjankov]

Some work, while others boast.

Yes, what did they work out on this knot and what did they do? In addition to a screwdriver assembly of almost ready-made machine kits for the L410 and UAV outpost obtained from the Czech Republic and Israel.

[Leader_Barmaleev]

I'm wildly sorry, but what did the An-38 not like? A comfortable, beautiful and reliable aircraft, which they began to produce in Novosibirsk, and suddenly everything went as usual ...

[Genry]

It was "closed" to please the Czech L-410.

[Dmitriy444]

"This money goes to the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of the ministers, to provide for them, all the money is withdrawn from Russia. The purchase of each foreign aircraft is carried out through a huge kickback, because when importing this product into Russia, duty is not levied. As Yeltsin signed this decree with submission of his daughter and Valery Okulov (former general director of Aeroflot), who is now deputy minister of transport ... and so it continues.

This rabble leads everyone, and we give (the country) everything with our sweat, blood, on behalf of the people ... Then they sell it all. I want to ask Chemezov: how many more billions do you need to calm down? Where Chemezov is, there is a complete emergency, he destroyed everything!

I have already told Vladimir Vladimirovich that by spring we need to update the "wardrobe", these people are already tired of it. I speak like a professional, they are killing Russian aircraft! Remember, we used to study the role of personality in history? These "persons" do what they want.

There is another such head of the Federal Air Transport Agency, Alexander Neradko. This man, after so many plane crashes, dead people, not a single hair turned white. He killed small aircraft, saying: as long as I head the department, we will not have any small aircraft. In our vast country, there are only 500 local airfields and 5000 aircraft in the hands of citizens, while in the small Czech Republic there are 10000!" Tolboev noted. 2017, the leaders are the same.

[Raymond]

You write that people are killing Russian planes...
The plane is a technical solution ...
When one machine outperforms all others, it is a worldwide success... Russian or non-Russian.
Perhaps in Russia it is still impossible to make a car that is superior to all others.
I think it is possible, and I have an example: the Soyuz rocket, but this is an old achievement.

Is it worth spending your time looking for the culprit of the failure? Should I waste money by repeating the same mistakes?
No more economical to change the way you work.
Because, after all, as you say, this money is not enough to successfully complete the project.

Perhaps start by adapting to global markets if you want to sell globally rather than relying on the global market adapting to your product.

[Leader_Barmaleev]

And at this time in the bourgeois military industry... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vNScq9shpQ My friends, please watch this video, which shows how the bourgeois are preparing for the FUTURE WAR and compare it with the pathetic analogous babble from Rostec. It's sad.

[Wedmak]

Well, they know how to make beautiful videos there. And cram your products too. And in the first place in earning dough.... Only everything that the Ukrainians prayed for and that the Americans praised turned out to be not very what was written in beautiful booklets.

[Ded60]

Now a bunch of serfs will come running and they will begin to work out the master's manual - everything is wrong, everything is bad, everything ... blah blah blah.

[Vladimir-TTT]

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

I know a lot of what happened and why it happened. I know a lot of what is, and why it is so. My comments are for the very few who might be interested. The rest - the forest!

"We have such devices, but we won't tell you about them..."
This is how they usually cover up their gaping gaps in knowledge.

[Pasus]

It would be nice if everything aviation was done in a complex and at the same time. No matter how it turns out that new planes will fly with navigators, nothing bad, but damn it, this is still a lag.

[Semenov]

Small aircraft are needed, airfields abandoned from the USSR are still standing, there are no planes, you can only get to the n / a by helicopter sometimes. And before, the regulars flew quietly, the An-2s are the same.

[Moneron]

no need to rejoice ahead of time. while there is a war in Ukraine, there will be FORCED attempts to revive Russian industry....with meager results. this is the result of negative selection in the highest echelons of power .... entirely filled with vociferous humanitarians, retired military men and athletes. such a "leadership" is absolutely incapable of a 2nd technical revolution in the country ..... the professionalism of Russian technical personnel has been sharply reduced due to the lack of prestige and lack of demand for "grimy" professions.
from here ..... the war will end (and it will definitely end someday), and everything will return to normal. the oligarchy will again drive raw materials over the hill .... and our cool import-substituting developments will no longer be needed ..... until the next one ...... we will buy everything abroad.
By the way, on Sakhalin, local airlines fly on scorers and are overjoyed. passengers too. subsidies to airlines from the region make plane tickets cheaper than train tickets by a decent amount .... and travel time is drastically reduced.

[Ded60]

Another howl - everything is bad, everything is wrong ..... You look around in your outskirts, what did you do? Your owners have ruined everything, and you are happy to ride, lackeys. You can only work out the master's manual on whining for cookies.

[Pavel57]

Back in the 90s, the Czechs tried to push the L-610 into our market. But it didn't work out.

[Dmitry Neklyudov]

Experienced, promising, Rostec - three words, the presence of which unambiguously indicates another noble cut.