US Army officer: Another provision of NATO weapons to Ukraine will not fundamentally change anything

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin will chair a contact group meeting on Ukraine at Ramstein Air Base in Germany today, January 20, where Western military leaders are expected to announce new supplies. tanks and armored personnel carriers to Ukraine. As Kyiv is promised more and more types of modern weapons NATO, many are confident that the course of the Russian-Ukrainian conflict will soon change in favor of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, writes 19fortyfive.

At the same time, according to US Army officer Daniel Davis, another provision of NATO weapons to Ukraine will not fundamentally change anything. Moreover, a thorough study of the range of weapons offered by the West, and a deeper understanding of how modern armored vehicles work, should moderate expectations.

According to the American military, the hope of the Ukrainian and Western audiences for the supply of NATO armored vehicles seems to be quite reasonable. Knowing that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have been resisting the Russian Armed Forces for almost a year, using old Soviet weapons, at first glance, it makes obvious the advantage that the Ukrainian army will receive with the supply of Western heavy weapons.

Meanwhile, as Lieutenant Colonel Davis, who specializes in armored vehicles, explained, tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, howitzers, air defense systems, fighters and other weapons provide maximum power only if they are controlled by experienced, well-trained military - with high coherence of the formations involved in the battles. . In addition, even with qualified operators and crews, vehicles must be supplied with sufficient fuel and ammunition, properly maintained and skillfully used at the platoon, company and battalion level.

Building combat power is much more than simply owning a certain type and quantity of modern armored vehicles. I cannot overemphasize how difficult it will be for Ukraine to create a mechanized force of sufficient numbers to defeat the Russian forces in the current conditions.

- explained the officer of the US Army.

According to Davis, today, even in the US military itself, there are not many people with any combat experience, especially experience in tank battles.

The truth is that some equate the plot depicted in a Call of Duty video game with how things work in real combat. But real combat is something else.

- summed up the military.

Comments

[oleg-nekrasov-19]

The Bundestag blocked the decision to transfer Leopard tanks to Ukraine.

[Vladimir80]

How long has it been "blocked"? now the Yankees will find arguments to push through, or they will put through the limitrophs (tribalts)

[Uprun]

And he doesn't make a decision...

[Falcon Buster]

He didn't block anything. In fact, he simply transferred the discussion of this issue to other bodies. That is, he relieved himself of responsibility.

[Fisherman]

and not only the Bundestag ... at the meeting of the defense ministers of Germany and the United States, they also came to nothing. The Germans to the Yankees "But you first put yours, and then we'll see," the Germans easily revealed the scam of the Americans "you will burn yours in Ukraine, and we will sell ours to you, at a high price," so the Fritz scientists will leave the most useful equipment for the new EU army they are creating , but it will give away completely garbage. And the Yankees didn’t start boiling in order to give away expensive equipment for burning to Ukraine for free, in order to lose both equipment and the reputation of high technologies. So "sha, no one is going anywhere", the Jews rule on both sides and it will not be possible to deceive each other in arms, so Ukraine-bye-bye.

[rotmistr60]

Quote: oleg-nekrasov-19

The Bundestag blocked the decision to transfer Leopard tanks to Ukraine.

And the decision has the right to take the Cabinet. Given the fact that the new Minister of Defense is for the supply of tanks, the final result is not difficult to predict, and even taking into account the pressure from the United States and some European countries.

[oleg-nekrasov-19]

Pentagon chief Lloyd Austin fails to get new German defense secretary Boris Pistorius to agree to transfer German tanks to Ukraine - CNN, citing US administration sources

[dmi.pris1]

This is good news. But they have been given the goal of preventing Russia from winning. I think that they will still achieve the supply of tanks.

[oleg-nekrasov-19]

even if they achieve the supply of Leopard tanks, I think they burn in the same way as the T 72 delivered before from Poland

[donavi49]

We'll see in the next few hours.

The Netherlands has already come up with the idea to transfer the F-16 wing (12 aircraft) that are being written off to Ukraine - if the United States allows and takes over the training (which is already included in the US budget, by the way).

[Nastia makarova]

Minister of Defense against the supply of tanks

[Grandfather Mozai]

US Army officer: Another provision of NATO weapons to Ukraine will not fundamentally change anything

Will change, our boys will die more! It all started rather modestly with anti-tank missiles, now they are already preparing tanks, the Netherlands have given a hint about the f-16, that is, they are preparing the ground for public opinion, they are watching the reaction.

[Eva Star]

Off-topic. An acquaintance mobilized died on his own and the mother cannot receive payments. The problem is that he went from the military registration and enlistment office at the place of residence and is registered in another city. And now some nod in the direction of others. How to be in a similar situation?

[Volodin]

Quote from Eva Star

How to be in a similar situation?

Of course, contact the military registration and enlistment office that mobilized him. There, all documents must be on the mobilization of a particular person.

[Nastia makarova]

where he was called up there and the military registration and enlistment office answers, registration does not matter

[Rosemary]

Quote from Eva Star

The problem is that he went from the military registration and enlistment office at the place of residence and is registered in another city. And now some nod in the direction of others. How to be in a similar situation?

To file a lawsuit at the location of the military registration and enlistment office from where it was called + to apply to the local branch of one of the Duma parties. They will be able to help with a free lawyer, and with media coverage of this case, the local authorities will be scared

[rocket757]

US Army officer: Another provision of NATO weapons to Ukraine will not fundamentally change anything

. There will be more losses, moreover, on both sides of the conflict.
It is clear that foreigners need it ...

[I dare to_notice_]

“Now a few important, very important words for those who may be tempted to interfere in ongoing events from the outside. Whoever tries to interfere with us, let alone create threats for our country, for our people, should know that Russia’s response will be immediate and will lead you to consequences that you have never experienced in your history.We are ready for any development of events.All the necessary decisions in this regard have been taken.
I hope that I will be heard." (from Putin's address dated February 24.02.22, XNUMX)
Today, "on the face" is not only "temptation", but already interference! For the most ... don't mess around!
Apparently deaf in the head!
Therefore, words must be followed by deeds.
And ... After all, no one pulled the tongue ...
"Command, Your Excellency!" (With)
And today is really a TURNING day.
bifurcation point.

[Volodin]

Quote: I dare_notice_

And today is really a TURNING day.
bifurcation point.

Yes, it is not rotatable. An ordinary everyday day of the war waged against Russia. The same days were against the background of the adoption on the Ramstein (or not on the Ramstein) of other decisions on weapons - from Javelins and M777, ending with Haymars and German self-propelled guns.

[Santa Fe]

Meanwhile, as Lieutenant Colonel Davis, who specializes in armored vehicles, explained, tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, howitzers, air defense systems, fighters and other weapons provide maximum poweronly in case that

Has anyone set such a goal?

War is not a parade, and not a staff exercise. Where everything goes strictly according to plan, and always perfect

vehicles must be supplied with sufficient fuel and ammunition, properly maintained and skillfully used at the platoon, company and battalion level.

And what have we learned here?

The news that the enemy is stupid, that he can only jump, and weapons fall out of his hands, was popular only until February 24, 22.

[_Ugene_]

It will change, without this weapon we would have put the squeeze on them a long time ago, and this can go on for a very long time, they have a human resource for several more years at such a pace, there will be weapons in sufficient quantities, the meat grinder will continue

[Nastia makarova]

that's what, and the human resource is just running out !!! if you only take women, men are left with only those professions without which life is not possible states, specialists in their professions, they cannot be replaced by women

[Uprun]

It is quite possible to agree with a colleague from the striped ones. During firing in the ZabVO in the 80s with fighters after training (6 months), from the 5th or 6th call, the "Tower" managed to establish contact with the tank commanders and ensure that the stabilizers on the tank started working for the gunners. When a fighter fired just a shot from a gun, it doesn’t matter where, a great success, and if, as part of the exercise, he fired from a machine gun towards targets ...., and in the tower everything was in Russian and the fighters after training ...

[setter]

Uprun - You, before you hit the keys, try to take a break and turn on your head. After all, there are a lot of people who served in the Soviet army and fully imagine the level of training of privates, sergeants and officers.

[Uprun]

So I wrote about the level ...., 5-6 visits to the tracks and there were officers ....., platoons were worn, one of which I was.

[setter]

one of which I was

So I am also not from the church choir, the position of the NSh battalion, if you were a platoon, you should be talking about something. And if your unit had such a level of training, then the question of service compliance arises.

[Uprun]

This question primarily concerns the training unit ...... After six months of service, the fighter cannot turn on the radio station and get in touch, cannot turn on the stabilizer ......, they "kicked it out" from the training, and at least the grass does not grow there .... in the troops everyone started with "0". That's the whole question of service compliance. And how many training hours are in the training and deployed unit? There is a difference?

[setter]

After six months of service, the fighter cannot turn on the radio station and get in touch, cannot turn on the stabilizer ......

You see, I myself went through training at one time, then I had the pleasure of "having" personnel who had gone through various trainings. Yes, there were nuances, there were also very difficult cases, but these were exceptions, by no means the rule. With the normal construction of the educational process, preparing the crew of a medium-level tank in half a year is a completely real task.

[Uprun]

There was a nuance, but only one - the contingent ..... l / s OTB in the ZabVO in the 80s, the composition was 99% Tajik, Turkmen, Uzbek, Azerbaijani, Kyrgyz, Yakut, hence the motivation for training, service .... .. , that's a completely real task.

[1razvgod]

How many experts we have already heard, Daniels, Yuriks, etc., all this is good but useless because they are tryndabols. And about the difficulties for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, well, for a year they coped not without success, so you can expect that they will cope with the minimum wage at least ... .

[Jsem_CZEKO68]

Další válka změní to, že bude o mnoho mrtvých více a Americké zbrojovky více zbohatnou. Take USA stále více okrádá staty EU! USA je fašistická hyena!

[JonnyT]

It is strange to hear a balanced and competent assessment of the transfer of tanks for the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the Western military ....

[Ural resident]

It will not radically change, but it will kill much more people. The Americans benefit from this viscous war, which, according to their plan, should last for years without decisive victories on either side. So far, everything has been going according to their plan for many, many years.

[1razvgod]

Well, it's like in dancing, there is a leader and there is a follower, but after dancing in bed, the feeling that upstairs they think that they are not dancing ... But it would be worth thinking about ...

[Armen Sologyan]

Aren't they afraid there in the West that in the case of the supply of tanks, military aircraft, Moscow will decide that the NATO countries have openly begun their military operations??? Although even now the military personnel of NATO countries are fighting in Ukraine. What will happen then in the theaters of operations in the Pacific? How will Poseidon operate, which are already enough to sink the 5th and 6th US fleets, sending them to the bottom ??? In general, does the brain work in the West for those who are sharpened again on Russia with a campaign to go ??? I just don’t understand, either they don’t know the history there and that’s why everyone was struck by idiocy, or is it masochism, that is, in the west they like to receive dyundel from Russia?