Eleven European countries have agreed on a new package of military assistance to Ukraine, including tanks Leopard 2

Europe does not intend to lag behind the United States in terms of military assistance to Ukraine and even got ahead of the Pentagon, announcing on the eve of the formation and approval of a new package of armaments with military equipment for the Ukrainian army. It is reported by Reuters.

Several European countries have developed a flurry of activities in the run-up to the meeting of NATO defense ministers at the Ramstein airbase and even agreed on a new military aid package for Ukraine. The initiators of all this were the Russophobic four - Poland and the Baltic countries. The meeting of the defense ministers of these countries was held in Tallinn.

Eleven countries signed the so-called "Tallinn Declaration", under which they pledged to transfer military Tanks, heavy artillery, air defense systems, infantry fighting vehicles and ammunition. There is no complete list of what was promised yet, apparently, it will take its final form after the meeting at the Ramstein air base, but some positions can already be named.

As already reported, nine of the countries that signed the document, and these are Great Britain, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, Poland, Denmark, the Netherlands, the Czech Republic and Slovakia, pledged to supply tanks to Ukraine. The Spaniards have postponed this issue for now, Germany is generally silent regarding tanks.

Further, it is possible for individual countries: Estonia will transfer FH-70 and D-30 howitzers, M2 anti-tank grenade launchers, 155-mm caliber shells to Ukraine, Latvia - FIM-92 Stinger MANPADS, two Mi-17 helicopters, machine guns and Drones, Lithuania will transfer L-70 anti-aircraft guns and two Mi-8 helicopters to Ukraine, Poland - S-60 anti-aircraft guns, KRAB howitzers and a company of Leopard 2 tanks with 1 thousand units of ammunition. Denmark will donate 19 French self-propelled artillery mounts (ACS) to Caesar.

Today the issue with the Leopard tanks should also be resolved, it is expected that the Germans will still be "squeezed" at the meeting of NATO defense ministers.

Comments

[Two]

And we will increase the supply of gas and oil in return! Let's add grain...

[Asad]

It’s like the S-60 anti-aircraft gun is old 50-60s, but still a weapon, and quite serious.

[Zhopir Tumanov]

Do you propose to take money for tanks and missiles from your wallet?

[Sergei_tactics]

Better from his wallet. His liberal spirit will immediately go out))

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: Sergey_tactics

Better from his wallet. His liberal spirit will immediately go out))

What is the liberal spirit? We supply raw materials / energy resources to the West, they make military products from this raw material, which will then be supplied to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Even the same grain that is supplied to the West feeds our opponents...

So it can legally prohibit the supply of any raw materials / goods to unfriendly countries? So far, you can take money for NWO from the money box and from the income that comes from the Asian direction ... otherwise it turns out strange, the West is doing everything to ensure that the conflict lasts as long as possible + wants to kill as many of our people as possible, and we continue in response to trade as if nothing had happened, although our cities are beaten only in this way.

[skeptick2]

Quote: Aleksandr21

We supply raw materials / energy resources to the West, they make military products from this raw material, which will then be supplied to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

But nothing, that we receive money from him for the raw materials supplied to the West? For which we also make military products?
As for the egg capsule, after the well-known events, it was reduced by more than half. You won't get much from there.
As for the income from the Asian direction, they still need to be calculated. At what price are China and India taking hydrocarbons, taking advantage of Russia's stalemate.
After all, a country should not live by one war. Pensions need to be paid to people, wages. Production, science needs to be developed. Where to get money for this? Or is the world flooded with Russian exports?

[Aleksandr21]

Quote from: skeptick2

But nothing, that we receive money from him for the raw materials supplied to the West? For which we also make military products?

And what's the way out? We will continue to push resources to the West to support the standard of living of Americans and Europeans, and in return they will send more weapons and kill more Russians.

With this approach, the war will end when there is nothing left of us .... + at what prices do they buy this raw material? On the cheap, taking into account the sanctions and low demand from buyers who are afraid to get under the distribution .... and if the supply is completely stopped? Replacing a country like Russia in terms of resources / raw materials is unrealistic ... because. the price tag will immediately fly into space, for metals, grain, etc. (large list), i.e. The cost of production of goods in the West will increase significantly, and the US / Europe will have to negotiate, but now?

There was simply a redistribution of resources, when we drive resources / raw materials to Asia, and those Western companies that drove to China / India simply changed markets to the USA / Europe. those. the world has not lost anything from this, the supply has not become smaller.

Quote from: skeptick2

As for the egg capsule, after the well-known events, it was reduced by more than half. You won't get much from there.
As for the income from the Asian direction, they still need to be calculated. At what price are China and India taking hydrocarbons, taking advantage of Russia's stalemate.

Do you seriously think this is our biggest problem? Now the West is stepping up the supply of weapons to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the moment is not far away when it will be necessary to announce a new mobilization or use tactical nuclear weapons if other means are exhausted, and we are discussing how much Russia will lose from such a step ...

1) There is money in Kubyshki, they spent it in 2022, they will spend it in 2023, and there is nothing wrong with financing NWO from this money. Everything is better than storing it in a Western or Asian egg-shell .... all the more there is already the question of the existence of the Russian Federation - because. there is a threat, so the priorities must be appropriate.

2). The income from the Asian direction is now the main one (China, India ... + the same raw materials go to the European markets, you can also make deliveries to Pakistan, Indonesia, the Philippines, etc. - Asia is big). - according to the numbers, of course, no one will openly say how much (since sanctions and all things), but the income is clearly not small ... before we managed to put together pretty decent reserves by selling resources / raw materials, and now even if we get half - this is enough to meet all needs.

Quote from: skeptick2

Production, science needs to be developed. Where to get money for this?

I'm all for it, who's stopping you? Until 2022, there was a lot of money, they made more than 500 billion dollars only in the main capsule, so what? Did this money go into production / science? No. And all why? Because they traded with Western companies and it was easier to buy than to develop your own .... although there was money, and now with the same approach there will be no development of production and science ..... i.e. It's not a matter of money, but a matter of desire and priorities...

The same Iran has achieved much more in the issue of import substitution, although there were many times less resources and money. Or take the DPRK, despite the fact that it is a poor state, but it produces EVERYTHING almost alone, i.e. they do not critically depend on Western supplies.

[nickname7]

And what's the way out? We will continue to push resources to the West to support the standard of living of Americans and Europeans, and in return they will send more weapons and kill more Russians.

Alas and ah, but this is exactly what is happening and there is nothing to be done, claims must be made to those who ruined the production, they say we will buy everything.

[Lelik 56]

And by last name, the gut is thin? They ruined production under Yeltsin and continued under Putin. Oh, there's already a knock on the door.......

[ankir13]

Tell me about money! 300 lards, whether dollars, or yuriks, for raw materials already delivered and so on, where did they go? no raw materials, no money for raw materials sold by Russia. Scammer and his regular customers...

[Fitter65]

Quote: Aleksandr21

Money for CBO, as long as you can take it from the pod

So the little egg is bye-bye. Remained in Western banks.

[Aleksandr21]

Part of the capsule remained there, the West froze only (about) half, $ 300 billion, and about the same amount was stored in other places (in Russia and possibly somewhere else ... that is, it was not possible to seize them), and so about $ 600 billion would be taken away, and maybe more, we had different reserves and in different pockets.

[nickname7]

capsules

In itself, a small egg of this magnitude is the Kremlin's mistake.
The reserve is not money on deposit, but money lent, it’s like if you buy 10K rubles in a store, and then write a receipt to the store and borrow 10K rubles back, and then buy the goods again, and borrow again, from store receipts accumulate, and you buy and buy. This is what the United States does, they bought 1 yard of Mercedes in Germany, which in turn will buy gas from the Russian Federation and spread out with this yard, then the Kremlin will lend a billion dollars to the states against receipt of treasuries, then the cycle repeats. In general, the Kremlin is accumulating receipts, and the states are consuming material resources and high-quality German auto industry.
This is such an "efficient economy" in the Kremlin. Therefore, the point is not that they arrested 300 yards, but why the Kremlin is selling so many resources on credit for receipts.

[Sid2014]

By selling oil, gas and grain, our country, and of course, the oligarchs can somehow exist. In Russia, brought to the extreme by years of reforms on paper, the end will simply come. Or who can suggest other forms of filling the budget?

[Romanenko]

I think it's better to post on the Internet a list of objects in unfriendly countries that are subject to calibration in the event of a conflict developing according to the American scenario.
Well, in response to their unity on the issue of popularization of the United States.

[Pantsuy]

Quote: Dos

And we will increase the supply of gas and oil in return! Well, let's add some grains.

You also forgot about the "expression of concern"

[rotmistr60]

Great Britain, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, Poland, Denmark, the Netherlands, the Czech Republic and Slovakia, pledged to supply tanks to Ukraine

And why did France not sign it, although the other day it announced the transfer of French Leclerc tanks to Ukraine. And the Germans on Ramstein will be pressed down and Scholz will have to not only give permission to Poland and others to supply German tanks to Kyiv, but also to share their own. If you want the flock not to bite you, howl in unison with your tail between your legs.

[dmi.pris1]

It remains to wish our guys to pull together and turn it all into scrap metal.

[Ka-52]

Well, at the time the NMD began, Ukraine had a fleet of heavy weapons 3-4 times larger than that included in this supply, but all of it had already become rubbish on the battlefields. Of course, all these deliveries slow down the collapse of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but they are unlikely to prevent it.

[Andy_nsk]

In my opinion, the “jacket” is of the greatest value for 19 French self-propelled artillery installations (ACS) Caesar from the “Danish kingdom”, since nothing is yet clear about the “Leopards” from Poland, whether they will press the “liver sausage” or not. Staff members act as provocateurs, substituting Germany and, not wanting to supply "Abramov", forcing Germany to play "first violin".

[donavi49]

According to ACS from fresh (outside the remaining from the contract for 56 Crabs, new 16 Suzanne, 26 DanM2):
18 M109A6 Paladin, has good guidance and interaction systems.

30 AC-90s, of which 9 pieces are coming soon

12 Archer and the beginning of the training program for l / s at the expense of Sweden

36 from the USA and 36 from Britain 105 mm howitzers and a lot of shells for them. In fact, these are arts for 2 new brigades. And this is the only type of guns that will not have a shell shortage for another 2-3 years.

[Former soldier]

It is better that all this armored vehicles be destroyed immediately after crossing the border of Ukraine.

[Nastia makarova]

this is not possible, let's say the echelon with equipment is derailed, the equipment will not suffer from this

[Former soldier]

Will suffer. Yes, and "derailed" it is necessary to start up knots, bridges and tunnels.

[Victorovich]

Even housewives have begun to understand this!
Daee women no longer understand why the bridges in Ukraine are intact or why their communications work, why everyone and sundry go to visit ..
But our General Staff, which has no analogues in the world, does nothing.

I, personally, have simply wished our guys success and military luck on the battlefields. And he stopped even thinking about the NWO - for the coward is complete, there is nothing special to expect from the naked General Staff ..

[Ivan Pchelin]

Everything is not scrap metal. Abrams and Leopards are sorely lacking in the exposition of Patriot Park.

[Asad]

Whatever there is a flock, and we are alone like a bear surrounded by wolves.

[stankow]

Rather like a bear and a flock of companion dogs.

[Nastia makarova]

Is this equipment enough for a month of fighting?

[DMFalke]

They will put at least one Leopard - then under the guise it will be possible to send at least batches. A precedent is being created for approving the shipment of heavy equipment in the form of Western-style tanks.

[Nastia makarova]

this was known, let them send, Poland alone transferred 300 tanks 72 and there were no screams, and then a couple of dozen and cry

[donavi49]

No one knows how much and what Poland has transferred. The only thing that is known is that there is no Tvarda yet. Here the Osa-P1 was spotted the other day, repairing the chassis and modernizing the guidance system. It was bought only for the Polish army. The main difference is the updated combat posts, electronics and a thermal imaging channel (making the complex round-the-clock)

Also, Poland transfers consumables of all types + missiles / maintains and raises Ukrainian scrap at its enterprises (they say that several lines for servicing large missiles were taken to service centers in Poland, including from Artyom and Luch back in spring and summer).

[Nordsc0l]

I heard that just Solid has been staged for a long time. And all that are. In principle, this sounds logical, since Poland ordered a bunch of Abramov and K2

[lisikat2]

It seems that Germany agreed: to give the tanks along with the United States, but they did not give

[Chevrolet Camaro]

The West will still come back to haunt the consequences of the supply of weapons to the Kyiv regime

[Asad]

Soon a year is coming around, more and more greyhounds.

[Lech from Android.]

Quote: rotmistr60

Why didn't France sign?

Macron is worried that he did not talk to Putin for a long time ... this is after the announcement of the transfer of French tanks to the Nazis in Ukraine.

[Sergei_tactics]

Macron has been trying to create the image of a peacemaker for so long and has already screwed up in this capacity

[DMFalke]

No, the president of France has a little fifth point hurts in domestic affairs now. Once again, the rise in the retirement age has come to a standstill and threatens with pogroms.

[digger]

list of latest aid package

[rocket757]

Today the issue with the Leopard tanks should also be resolved, it is expected that the Germans will still be "squeezed" at the meeting of NATO defense ministers.

Well, dermocracy ... is the power of the striped rich and no one else.

[Uprun]

We will live, we will see the end of this coven............, we will live in spite of the West and our "pension fund".

[Vadim Simonov]

Yes, there are leopards. The day before yesterday, my comrade (musician), who was fighting there, told how they captured one of them, managed to shoot twice at the end of the crew in captivity, these firewood in the rear. Killed junk. As he says, he generally reached the front line (conclusion on the condition of the technicians). Drain everything from all over Europe to dill. And for the loss of ukrov in Soledar, the data is greatly underestimated. Prigozhin offered to show everything to the top as it is and was refused. When children were taken out of the basements, they were blindfolded so that they would not see the horror that is there. Just a sea of ​​ukrov gone to Bandera. By the way, he received the Order of COURAGE for participating in the development of the Soledar operation. A guy has been fighting for 20 years now, after being wounded by an instructor in the rear, they are not allowed to go to the front line. And after the seizure of the salt caves, he jokes that we now have more javelins than in the states

[Asad]

I mean, the leopard was captured? Why wasn't it on the news then? Did you compose it yourself?

[nickname7]

more javelins than in the states

Trophies can be dangerous, the Armed Forces of Ukraine drill a hole in the pipe and putty when fired, the barrel of the gun is torn along with the head.
These trophies would not hurt the Irish.

[Politician]

Great Britain, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, Poland, Denmark, the Netherlands, the Czech Republic and Slovakia, pledged to supply tanks to Ukraine

Here is the turn of those who want to be the first to receive nuclear missiles with home delivery

[Asad]

Are you ready to receive a nuclear response? Well, if you don’t want to live, then your children and grandchildren do not share your Wishlist.

[Politician]

Suggest your own way of fighting against 50+ states and total military budgets for a trillion$???
Or are you, your children and grandchildren ready to be bent over?

[Arsi55]

These questions are for the NWO planners, and I don’t need to write here “it was inevitable” and other heresy. We lost the war, it’s already clear to everyone and no one will use Yao

[Politician]

Quote: Arsi55

These questions are for the NWO planners, and I don’t need to write here “it was inevitable” and other heresy. We lost the war, it’s already clear to everyone and no one will use Yao

Wrong, the war has just begun

[Sergey_52]

They lost the war

This is definitely heresy...

[Lelik 56]

Russia cannot be bent even in this position. Yes, loss retreats, and the result is even without nuclear weapons, like in Afghanistan ....... faster ... faster and an arrow in the barrel.

[alexey_444]

We are overfilling the plan for demilitarization not only in Ukraine but also in Europe. It is interesting to know the price of a leopard tank for Ukrainians and a newly produced one for Germans. The military budget will have to be doubled, less money for burghers with refugees, more crime, less difference in the standard of living of ours and the West. The last nail in the coffin of Western prosperity.

[tubeopt661]

Until, for example, a grasshopper jumps into flour in Krakow, they will pump it up, you need to show the whole world the targets of nuclear strikes with the simulation of the consequences of hitting one or another warhead, at first let them think, but for now they are not afraid of anything.

[Lelik 56]

I have already suggested detonating a 20 mgt fusion in the atmosphere above Novaya Zemlya. Ignore.

[svp67]

As already reported, nine of the countries that signed the document, and these are Great Britain, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, Poland, Denmark, the Netherlands, the Czech Republic and Slovakia, pledged to supply tanks to Ukraine. The Spaniards have postponed this issue for now, Germany is generally silent regarding tanks.

Poland, not by washing, so by hook and crook, desires the weakening of Germany. If now she deprives her of tanks, then, accordingly, she will deprive her of the opportunity to protect her interests in the matter of receiving reparations ... This is already clear as God's Day.
German industry is now unable to saturate even the Bundeswehr with new tanks. And the existing Leo-2A7V may be slightly better than the Leo-2A7PL, M1SE3 and K2 available in Poland, but significantly losing in quantity

[Altmann]

I don’t know, Europe’s approach is stupid, I don’t have the right to develop or say something, I’m Czech, they don’t want to get involved in Ukraine, but we get involved, others decide. I think it's time for Russia to show its strength. I believe that Russia will win, and it will be a great victory, I don't want to say more, but I believe that the mobilized fighters are trained and consolidated in units. Boys go ahead.

[Hadji Murat]

Germany was not crushed, the Fritz remember something

[Andrey_9]

It is not known whether the "cats" participated in the battles or not. What are their characteristics? Who will say?

[buslaif]

Quote: ASAD

It’s like the S-60 anti-aircraft gun is old 50-60s, but still a weapon, and quite serious.

Sometimes an ax in the hands of a soldier becomes a terrible weapon. In August 1941, the cook of the 91st tank regiment of the 46th tank division of the 21st mechanized corps, the Red Army soldier I.P. Sereda, especially distinguished himself in the Daugavpils region (now Latvia). In July 1941, near the city of Dvinsk (now Daugavpils, Latvia), he cooked dinner for the Red Army. At this time, he saw a German tank moving towards the field kitchen. Being armed only with a rifle and an ax, Ivan Sereda took cover behind the kitchen, and the tank, having driven up to the kitchen, stopped and the crew began to get out of it. At that moment, Ivan Sereda jumped out from behind the kitchen and rushed to the tank. The crew immediately took cover in the tank, and Ivan Sereda jumped onto the armor. When the tankers opened fire from a machine gun, Ivan Sereda bent the machine gun barrel with ax blows, and then closed the viewing slots of the tank with a piece of tarpaulin. Then he began to knock on the armor with the butt of an ax, while giving orders to the Red Army soldiers, who were not around, to throw grenades at the tank. The crew of the tank surrendered, and Ivan Sereda, at gunpoint, forced them to tie each other's hands. When the fighters of the infantry unit arrived, they saw a tank and four German tankers tied up. According to the commander of the 21st mechanized corps, Major General D. D. Lelyushenko, "by his brave deed he showed an exceptional example of heroism." On August 31.08.1941, XNUMX, he was awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union.

[lukash66]

History is cyclical, but this pack does not teach anything. All this has already happened, and tigers, and panthers, and the rest of the prodigies. The result is sad for them. My grandfather was a tanker, he fought from 43 to 45 in the division. TBR. Almost all the way to T34-76, and nothing, somehow they overcame this whole menagerie. Even in the Second World War, anti-tank weapons and mines were the main means of fighting tanks. And now, with modern anti-tank equipment, they will burn this whole menagerie. Here Scholz is shrinking together with a can.

[sifgame]

The headline of the article is "Eleven European countries agreed on a new package of military assistance to Ukraine, including Leopard 2 tanks"
The last paragraph of the article "Today the issue with Leopard tanks should also be resolved, it is expected that the Germans will still be "pressed" at the meeting of NATO defense ministers."
For such a face in a decent society beat.

[stankow]

The theme of "brothers" has not been revealed, how is it? Bulgaria is the most formidable enemy of Russia!

[Stepan S]

Today the issue with the Leopard tanks should also be resolved, it is expected that the Germans will still be "squeezed" at the meeting of NATO defense ministers.

Maybe they will, but not today. And always articles, although it is difficult to call these notes on VO articles - they always come out after a cap analysis and are already outdated.

[Pavel57]

Poland - S-60 anti-aircraft guns ....

This is the coolest acquisition of Ukraine. They will shoot down X-22.