President gives signal to army officials

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After President Putin’s recent reshuffle in the Russian Government (starting with the resignation of the Minister of Regional Development Oleg Govorun), the idea of ​​a new president’s concept began to take shape.

Even before the arrival of Vladimir Putin for the third presidential term, many expressed the idea that if a candidate Putin wants to win more sympathy from representatives of Russian society, he will have to restructure in some way the attitude to the political system. Such a candidate was even endowed with the specific status of “Putin 2.0”, implying the need for a new state policy, a policy in which any political, let's say, authority can be ruined, if a person occupying that or a public office exceeds his official authority and frankly stands on the path of corruption.

And, apparently, Vladimir Putin, really decided to conduct a kind of manual reconfiguration of the power system in Russia. The fact is that the series of permutations of the last few days and weeks is far from those Yeltsin flaps when the ministers and chairmen of the government eventually changed as pictures with kaleidoscopic bustle and chaos, not bringing a positive result, but sometimes led to even greater imbalance mechanism. Putin is acting more prudently and at the same time works exclusively preventively, isolating from the state mechanism those managers who have shown themselves, to put it mildly, not quite effective.

Putin’s supporters see in the president’s actions a verified component, in which the resignations are held in such a way that they do not destroy the established political system, but lead to its improvement. In this case, Putin can be compared with an experienced surgeon who decides on a rather complicated operation, which may initially even somewhat worsen the condition of the “patient”, but then - in the near future - can lead to an improvement in the body.

Critics of the president see in Putin’s actions an indispensable desire to get rid of “his people”, who have gone too far with the unequivocal, from the point of view of the critics themselves, connivance and sacrifice on the part of the highest authorities of the country. However, if we consider this point of view, it turns out that Putin would be subjected to harsh criticism by the liberal forces anyway. I would have left the ministers in place, whose departments have become too often involved in the implementation of corruption schemes, they would say that Putin continues to boil in his own juice, does not remove rubbish from the hut, and thus covers everyone and everything among the power elite. But Putin did not leave ministers in place. Then, the liberal strata of the population, taking a very short pause and reapplying their brains, found a new excuse for criticism, which was mentioned above: they say, the president wanted to stay clean, and everything like that ... In general, the fork of liberal criticism does exist in order try to gain political points in connection with any decision of the head of state.

However, this time this criticism itself does not stand up to any criticism, because the actions of President Putin prove that the main post in the state is occupied by a person who is able to change himself and adjust the political system in a way that is more effective for the development of the country. Someone talked about political stagnation ... And? ..

Of course, it is not necessary to think that the removal of a couple of ministers from the positions immediately put Russia on the rails of total modernization and lead straight to a brighter future. In the end, this is not the main point of presidential decisions. Their main point is to give a signal to all polls officials that the quality of the performance of their duties depends on how smoothly they will sit in the occupied places. At the same time, Putin’s non-verbal message for the army of officials is not reduced to the frenzied “to execute all, to hang all”. The president uses a more than civilized method: if you don’t cope, we’ll select someone who is ready to cope; you cannot cope and break the law - there is work for the investigating authorities. This is a quite calm signal, but after all, by and large, for our country it is quite akin to revolutionary changes in power. No, the revolution here is not at all the removal of one or another state official from office and the institution in relation to him or his closest subordinate criminal cases; a revolution here means a situation in which the government is not going to flirt with itself, but is ready to go for a completely civilized and timely “cleansing”, as they would say at the time.

Purification on the basis of the current legislation of the lined political ranks, which by a certain moment is maturing and being realized by the highest political authorities, can say that in our country both the government itself and the very civil society that has been spoken about so much in the past. Moreover, under civil society here it is necessary to understand not individual groups of people who in any endeavors of the power political elites certainly see the negative, but rather a substantial layer of Russian society, capable of understanding its own, including responsibility for the fate of the country in which it lives.

So, the president uses the personnel regulation tool on the basis of current laws, the president forms the team that will not only fulfill the duties assigned to it, but also the team that is aware of the level of responsibility before that civil society. For obvious reasons, such a formation cannot be considered complete either yesterday or today. In this case, the 100% completion option is not at all attainable. This is the new approach to building a political system: if one of its mechanisms fails, then it must either be “repaired” or replaced without stopping the overall work process.

Whether this is truly a cardinally new style in Vladimir Putin’s policy will show the further course of events, but at least the beginnings of this style are already visible.
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  1. +18
    12 November 2012 09: 31
    There is a feeling that we are on the verge of some kind of ... big changes.
    1. +1
      12 November 2012 09: 35
      Quote: BigRiver
      There is a feeling that we are on the verge of some .., big changes

      Well yes, very large measured in kilotons and is visible from a distance of 30 km. hi
      1. +2
        12 November 2012 09: 44
        hi winked
        I meant the state COURSE.
        1. -1
          12 November 2012 09: 50
          Naive tongue you need to look at business, or rather, at the results. And this can be observed every period: Putin modernized, upgraded, (beta) medveput, 2.0 ...
          1. +8
            12 November 2012 10: 41
            Reddragon
            It is necessary to look naive at business, or rather, at the results ...

            Looking winked Observation of the results, without knowledge of all the inputs, gives no understanding of the process.
            1. +2
              12 November 2012 15: 05
              Oh, how many experts on the forum take a look. We know everything, we go to the toilet ourselves and all that. I would like to note that the white-red-striped picture develops astigmatism and everything is seen stretched out in breadth and flattened from above - this is developed during a long occupation of liberalism.
              1. 0
                12 November 2012 16: 35
                Bigriver, this does not apply to you, I'm talking about "eyeing specialists" and there are a lot of them.
            2. rolik
              +3
              12 November 2012 19: 25
              The most intelligible signal of the army of thieves-officials. To abolish the death penalty, and on the second day after the abolition, to shoot Taburetkin on Red Square, together with figures from the RCC (for theft at GLONASS), and the Chief of Rosskosmos. This will be a very intelligible signal.
              Remember in the "White Guard", when one activist came running and joyfully began to say that the tsar had been overthrown and now there will be democracy in Russia, what was the answer? Here I am about the same thing, there is no need for democracy in Russia, in the form in which it exists .... for another hundred years. Our people are not ready yet, not ready.
          2. +5
            12 November 2012 11: 35
            Well, things are hard to miss.
        2. 0
          12 November 2012 09: 57
          Quote: BigRiver
          I meant the state COURSE.

          So we are going right on the course, but what’s ahead of us? hi
          1. +4
            12 November 2012 10: 10
            Alexander Romanov
            I think we'll wait a bit and find out.
            About a month before the next message from the President.
            1. +2
              12 November 2012 14: 51
              Quote: BigRiver
              About a month before the next message from the President

              Why wait, read the previous ones.
          2. Brother Sarych
            -6
            12 November 2012 11: 36
            Is it straight? Does the compass on the bridge even work, or at least have one?
            1. +3
              12 November 2012 11: 52
              Quote: Brother Sarich
              Is it straight? Does the compass on the bridge even work, or at least have one?


              There is definitely a compass (emphasis on A), but the radar shows the "light" ahead of the course, which can be regarded as a thunderstorm front, or just the darkness of the unknown! And what is behind the "flare, one can only guess! What actually we are all here and doing.
          3. yustas
            0
            12 November 2012 13: 10
            Well, it seems very strong that we are going to world peace .... it’s hard to fight when walking far away and a wooden club will not fly far =)
      2. +6
        12 November 2012 10: 34
        About such in the article and says - that would not do, it’s all the same bad. Either suggest something constructive, or don’t whine. Who is better for you: Zyuganov, Mironov, Yeltsin, Nemtsov ??? Tired of your terry pessimism.
        1. Brother Sarych
          -4
          12 November 2012 11: 37
          Besides three political corpses and one natural kind, is there a choice in the 140 millionth country?
          1. yustas
            0
            12 November 2012 14: 02
            I think there is a choice, only normal people don’t want to get dirty about g ...., but this g ... is in power anyway. But sooner or later (it’s better sooner) someone will have to clean this toilet anyway.
            in general, we will see "Brother Sarich" as people like to say here =)
          2. 0
            12 November 2012 15: 14
            Quote: Brother Sarich
            Besides three political corpses and one natural kind, is there a choice in the 140 millionth country?


            -Swarm hole, rash of gold coins. Bury, sprinkle with salt, water fields and sit down to wait until a tree with gold coins grows.
            - What other respected liberals will have proposals for raising the level of the economy in Russia?
      3. mazdie
        0
        12 November 2012 22: 33
        Absolutely agree! It smells fried, and probably a couple of years.
    2. traveler
      +12
      12 November 2012 09: 52
      Putin acts more prudently and works exclusively preventively, isolating from the state mechanism those managers who have shown themselves, to put it mildly, not quite effective.

      Preventively, this is when they act ahead of the curve, but here they are "cleaning up the tails" of the utterly stealing and corrupted bureaucrats request
      Their main point is to give a signal to all polls officials that the quality of the performance of their duties depends on how smoothly they will sit in their seats.

      Something rockets fell, the army "collapsed" and died in the reforms, and bureaucrats were sitting exactly despite the murmur of professionals and the public ...
      if you don’t cope, we will pick up the one who is ready to cope; if you don’t manage and break the law, there is work for the investigating authorities.

      Rogozin "got" a bunch of "titles" all the hours are not enough to list lol
      Shoigu cannot be assigned to supervise all the ministries, and judging by how he was torn off from the Moscow region, the "bench" is short. As for the investigating authorities, it is necessary to wait for the results of scandals, there were cases earlier when they were conditionally given for super theft for 7 years ...
      1. +3
        12 November 2012 21: 20
        the president uses the personnel regulation tool on the basis of existing laws, the president forms the team that will not only fulfill its responsibilities, but also a team that is aware of the level of responsibility to civil society

        With the current rate of reform over the years to 150, GDP will be able to form a team. If he survives.

        What, it was necessary to drive the army to the asphalt to see Serdyukov's complete inability to constructive reforms?
        What, satellites only began to fall this year?
        What about education? How much stupidity will still happen for ministers to remove pests?
        And how many generations of half-educated people, "managers" who have lost faith in the country, will we pay for this?
    3. Trofimov174
      +1
      12 November 2012 10: 15
      The authorities have nowhere to go, the people are not the same as they were 10 years ago, stability is not enough for him, we have enough of it, even despite the crisis, I want rapid growth and change. Well, judging by the various ten-year government programs that have been adopted (affecting the Olympics, football, astronautics, the army, the economy), I believe that we will see a truly new, and not post-Soviet, Russia by 2020-2022, unless of course another the global crisis will not hit.
      1. +11
        12 November 2012 12: 07
        Quote: Trofimov174
        we will see a truly new, and not post-Soviet, Russia by 2020-2022, unless of course another global crisis hits


        We will see the new Russia if first of all we change ourselves! When the people for the most part are drawn to puke from all these glamorous shows, when the idea - "more dough in ANY way" will give way to "my country is my home" (and not a trash heap), when everyone will be in their place and will be at work and Don't look for the "less do more snatch" way! (applies to ALL! from the very top to the very bottom)! Then there is a chance to see a new Russia! therefore, let's START EVERYONE WITH YOURSELF!
        I began! And you? ))))
        1. serg1978
          +2
          12 November 2012 12: 22
          100 points!!! But everyone will not be able to. Otherwise, everything would be too simple.
          And about the kick to the officials: if the president kicks the army of officials, the army (officials) will scratch the place of the kick and not even move.
          But if the army of officials kicks the president ....
          1. +2
            12 November 2012 14: 35
            serg1978
            Quote: serg1978
            if the president kicks the army of officials, the army (officials) will scratch the place of the kick and not even move.


            Here is a confirmation of your words "The Moscow City Court released on bail of 5 million rubles the former deputy general director of Rosatom Evgeny Evstratov, accused of embezzlement, (totaling more than 100 million rubles) his lawyer Alexander Gofshtein told Interfax. Rosbalt, today. By the way, "Rosatom", by the way, if not the next, then one of the first in line for the CHECK ... together with the "kinder surprise" ...

            And further - "The Supreme Court refused to support the prohibition of officials to have assets abroad and the introduction of criminal punishment for violating it." Kommersant writes about this on November 12. " Well, that really would be NONSENS - bees, against honey ...

            So request
          2. mda
            mda
            0
            12 November 2012 16: 56
            Quote: serg1978
            But if the army of officials kicks the president ....

            So the president will give them that in the face that ...
        2. +1
          12 November 2012 21: 26
          I’ve been living like this for a long time.
          And what is most interesting - many envy me. And weep, complaining about their goats-bosses, morons-subordinates, this power ... this mayor .... this sir .... these cops ... these prosecutors ...
          I only answer them one thing: - "You yourself have chosen your life, guys. If you like shit - swim, if you don't like it - get out. Only this is difficult. You will have to be hard on yourself, and answer all your problems to yourself."
          That's where everyone looks down.
        3. 0
          13 November 2012 01: 54
          Quote: Region-25.rus
          I began! And you?
          What started? to work for yourself and "for that guy", seeing at the same time that by creating you will receive less than the one who resells the fruits of your labor. Or you, being a businessman, reduce your percentage of profit (markup), if it doesn't work out, you go broke and your competitors will trample you.
      2. +2
        12 November 2012 23: 26
        Trofimov174,

        A unique social system and an equally unique economic formation have been established in Russia - corruption state capitalism. And the fact that high-profile cases and resignations began that were gathering dust under the cloth in high offices give reason to believe that the authorities have finally recognized and are not trying to hide. Apparently there is an obvious need to remove the corruption prefix and leave state capitalism.
        Putin makes clear to officials and oligarchs
        1. He is categorically against surrendering the interests of the country.
        2. He will never be with those who, under liberalism, understand the ability to bargain for their homeland.
    4. dimanf
      +1
      12 November 2012 11: 24
      it would be better like this:
      THE PRESIDENT GIVES A KIND OF ARMY OFFICERS.
    5. Brother Sarych
      -2
      12 November 2012 11: 35
      Of course! Change is on the verge - an established system is collapsing before our eyes, the question is whether it will bury the owner and then the whole country under its debris ...
    6. +1
      12 November 2012 11: 51
      signal of the army of officials


      what signal? these thousands of semi-educated (with a good education will not go) with poor salaries, civil servants of average and below the rank (and this is 90% of the total) get a penny, because the staff turnover, lower quality of work ... what kind of bribes or kickbacks are we talking about ?! Nobody will give them anything, except the Investigative Committee, which, for 1000 rubles, the performer will send the forest.
      1. +2
        12 November 2012 17: 33
        Yes, it would be high time to send a signal to the army of oligarchs who have divided the country's economy and the profit from "national property" - the subsoil. forests and other things.
    7. donchepano
      0
      12 November 2012 12: 50
      unfortunately we have long been on the doorstep ...
      unfortunately, we may find ourselves behind the threshold
    8. +1
      12 November 2012 13: 16
      It looks very much like that, my "countryman" is being raked
      The "repression" continues. The Investigative Committee announced the opening of a criminal case, the defendant in which was the vice-speaker of the Voronezh City Duma A. Shipulin. Citizen Shipulin is suspected of having spent 858 rubles from the city budget on a trip to Paris with his wife. I ate, so to speak, French rolls
    9. merkel1961
      0
      12 November 2012 17: 22
      For the first step, reassigning the composition of the government, along with Medvedev, all the remaining liberals should leave.
    10. 0
      12 November 2012 17: 41
      Quote: BigRiver
      There is a feeling that we are on the verge of some kind of ... big changes.

      I agree. The metropolis is weakening, so a new stage in the struggle for sovereignty is being prepared. Further it will only be more interesting.
      Glory to Russia!
      For those who want to take an active part in this struggle, the following links:
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      Take part in the vote.
    11. 0
      12 November 2012 18: 42
      The main thing is not to wishful thinking!
  2. TekhnarMAF
    +14
    12 November 2012 09: 36
    I would like to believe that the latest events are not campaigning, but real, long-term work to improve the power of all levels.
    1. 0
      12 November 2012 09: 49
      TekhnarMAF

      It’s hard to be optimistic in your country smile
      But campaigning is not Putin's style.
      Here, I agree with Volodin. Vlad Vlad is a surgeon with iron nerves.
      1. +2
        12 November 2012 09: 52
        Quote: BigRiver
        Here, I agree with Volodin. Vlad Vlad is a surgeon with iron nerves.

        Rather, a pathologist.
        1. TekhnarMAF
          +8
          12 November 2012 10: 43
          The pathologist opens the corpses - Russia is more likely alive than dead, but surgical intervention is necessary and cardinal, and then chemotherapy, in order to destroy metastases
          1. +1
            12 November 2012 13: 55
            Quote: TehnarMAF
            The pathologist opens the corpses - Russia is more likely alive than dead, but surgical intervention is necessary and cardinal, and then chemotherapy, in order to destroy metastases

            Your diagnosis is not comforting.
  3. +17
    12 November 2012 09: 38
    If he puts a redhead then I will believe!
    1. +11
      12 November 2012 09: 47
      Quote: klimpopov
      If he puts a redhead then I will believe!


      - Is the hat on the thief? - no, I have not heard such an expression ...
    2. +2
      12 November 2012 09: 53
      Quote: klimpopov
      If he puts a redhead then I will believe!

      You think small! "Landing" someone else is not an indicator of efficiency and correctness.
      1. +2
        12 November 2012 10: 38
        The indicator is not an indicator, but no one has yet managed to crush the red one, I believe that Putin is really strong after landing Red, then we can talk about sovereignty and independence from the Fed.

        Do you think that specifically red and white fluffy?
        1. dusha233
          +1
          12 November 2012 10: 59
          klimpopov I would also like that this red face be planted, but there legs grow by no means from Russia and the GDP will not let the manager (watching) to touch Russia. While the arms are still short ... neo it's just for now ...
          1. 0
            12 November 2012 11: 28
            So I'm talking about too.
            1. dusha233
              0
              12 November 2012 11: 37
              Well then, the conclusion is that landing or not landing (so far) red does not make GDP a weak ruler.
              1. 0
                12 November 2012 11: 42
                But I didn’t say that he was weak, I say that he plays at his own level, and how independent he will show the punishment of certain people.
          2. Brother Sarych
            +1
            12 November 2012 11: 41
            I wonder who can stop him if he wants to. Minute business, if you want, but does it meet Putin’s plans? And if he wants, but doesn’t plant, then what independence of the President of the great (nevertheless) country can we talk about if he is a puppet in the hands of some unknown small clerks?
            1. Andrey64
              0
              12 November 2012 12: 05
              In order to be completely independent, you need to have a strong economy and a powerful army, and this cannot be built in a year. If you don’t touch, then the balance of power does not allow yet ...
              1. Brother Sarych
                +1
                12 November 2012 14: 17
                Is it worth overestimating some kind of red parasite and elevating it to the untouchable demigod? If you wish, you would have been planted a long time ago, you see, I would have unwound it almost half a time - but there was no such desire ...
      2. serg1978
        +4
        12 November 2012 12: 31
        Yes, a very cynical redhead robbed the whole country with privatization. For those who could still work, it’s a shame, but what can you do - the time is right. But for parents, the elderly - you would be g.d.
    3. +4
      12 November 2012 10: 45
      Quote: klimpopov
      If he puts a redhead then I will believe!

      Klim, this is from the realm of fiction. So you probably never will.
      1. +3
        12 November 2012 10: 52
        It’s not that I don’t believe, or rather, I don’t believe in independence and need strength, I play at my own level, clearly knowing the place, no matter how deplorable it is. Now slippers pissing will begin to throw)))

        PSZ jxty I want to believe him, but somehow ...
        1. +2
          12 November 2012 13: 43
          Quote: klimpopov
          rather, I do not believe in independence

          So I don’t believe in independence. We divide the slippers into two. smile
    4. gladiatorakz
      +5
      12 November 2012 10: 54
      A better shot. In public. Although the accident will be happy.
      1. yustas
        +1
        12 November 2012 13: 15
        yes on the oncoming road with the rink ...... parked side =)
      2. 0
        12 November 2012 13: 57
        An ice ax is a classic!
  4. predator.2
    +1
    12 November 2012 09: 42
    You also need to instruct all officials to hang a poster in the office next to the portrait of the president (or together with him), written in arshin letters, the most relevant Russian proverb " do not renounce your wallet and prison! " It would not hurt to hang up at home, say in the bedroom, so as not to be forgotten!
    1. +1
      12 November 2012 09: 54
      But this is pure "companionship".
    2. Jin
      +5
      12 November 2012 10: 04
      Quote: predator.2
      "Do not renounce your wallet and prison!" It would not hurt to hang at home, say in the bedroom, so that they are not forgotten!


      And even better and more effective, hang a photo of the hanged predecessor, so it was definitely not bad !!!
      1. predator.2
        +2
        12 November 2012 11: 59
        Quote: Jin
        And even better and more effective, hang a photo of the hanged predecessor, so it was definitely not bad !!!

        I completely agree with you, only that they are not hung up, and they are not imprisoned, but punished by "dismissal in connection with the transition to another job"
    3. Brother Sarych
      -1
      12 November 2012 11: 43
      Can also repent publicly force? And then they tell them that they say you were ugly, but correct yourself and you will be sweetie?
      1. 0
        13 November 2012 02: 26
        And who will force, who will be that gallant quote from the quote book.
    4. 0
      13 November 2012 02: 23
      Quote: predator.2
      "Do not renounce your wallet and prison!"
      ... The wife is from the "judges", so I somehow vividly imagined such a transparency in the courtroom. XD.
  5. Nechai
    +2
    12 November 2012 09: 55
    Quote: predator.2
    to all officials - "do not excuse yourself from the bag and prison!"

    Then it will be lost, for them, the very meaning of climbing the power tree. After all, there’s another saying they’ve got at the well, but don’t get drunk ?!
    Do not honk nadot, but REFUSE the dominant, imposed ideology of the AUTHORITY of MONEY. And then everything will go its own way.
    1. 0
      13 November 2012 02: 29
      Everything according to Darwin, will get off the tree, or if he falls, he will break his tail and become a man. EVOLUTION, you know.
  6. +7
    12 November 2012 09: 58
    Now begins ..... All window dressing and setup ..... There is another redistribution .......

    I don’t know about you, but I, for one, am very glad that this is happening. For I am approving the posts that are replacing, and those who were not the last people to leave the posts. I conclude that everything is real and everything is moving in the right direction.
    The point is different. I would like for such cleanings to be carried out urgently in the regions. And the faster and the more unexpected the bodies are better.
    1. Gavrilon
      +1
      12 November 2012 11: 03
      Udmurtia in the forefront of purges !!! And then we have gentlemen in power, as it were, with their campaign campaign, they stayed on the ground !!! hi
      1. 0
        13 November 2012 09: 36
        Quote: Gavrilon

        Udmurtia in the forefront of purges


        Yes, I heard about your governor ... And the story is when he held some kind of living creature in his hands, and on his hands a watch whose cost is a cut repair of all roads in a circle that cannot be called roads there.
  7. yurypetrunin
    +1
    12 November 2012 09: 59
    I’ve gone through so many reforms, starting with the “anti-party groups”, “the current generation under communism”, and the last war in Hyde Park, I can’t even believe it - did it wait ... Yuri Petrunin. Veteran of the Armed Forces of the USSR.
    Yuri Petrunin responds to a comment by Ivan Dmitriev Dear Ivan! A neglected disease is for us, for you, in particular.
    And Putin will be able to treat her, including surgically.
    Demagogy is good in moderation, for the kitchen, or wardroom. And here we will have to continue WORK. Putin will be able to do this, the rest will be blotted out. Yuri
    Yuri Petrunin responds to a comment by Ivan Dmitriev. On the vertical, I agree, rusted and bent over recent years. Putin will straighten it, while others will cut it to the root and arrange it on the wreckage! Already then it is certain that neither you, nor our children and grandchildren will be able to live normally. Choose the best of the worst. No other is given.
    And oil in well ... they pushed me since school about life under communism. And then we only "caught up and overtook". YU.
  8. +1
    12 November 2012 09: 59
    The ministers of the pawn on the chessboard, Putin, the central passed pawn, which became the queen, is actually a Trojan horse, but they are only pieces, not players.
    1. -3
      12 November 2012 10: 43
      Quote: baltika-18

      The ministers of the pawn on the chessboard, Putin, the central passed pawn, which became the queen, is actually a Trojan horse, but they are only pieces, not players.


      You have watched Ren TV.
      World government, etc.
      1. -5
        12 November 2012 10: 50
        A bunch of idiots really believe that Ren TV is showing ... They are also minus .... With people like you, our country certainly does not shine.
      2. +1
        12 November 2012 12: 44
        Quote: Manager
        You have watched Ren TV.
        World government, etc.

        I don’t need it, I just carefully monitor all Putin’s contacts with Berel Lazar. And also answer, why aren’t we drowning Chubais? My Ren TV does not show.
        1. +1
          12 November 2012 13: 17
          And only because we don’t drown Chubais (Actually, like Zhirinovsky and 10 more politicians) And because V.V.P. I met with Ravin several times from the USA, you concluded that it was the Jews who govern the whole world, and all politicians and presidents are just puppets.? I'm just wondering ... who then do you think are numerous aligarchs, sheikhs?
          To whom does the Arab world submit?
          1. +3
            12 November 2012 13: 49
            Quote: Manager
            ? I'm just wondering ... who then do you think are numerous aligarchs, sheikhs?
            To whom does the Arab world submit?

            Through the system of world financial institutions, through the dollar, all the same to them. I ask you not to confuse Israel and the Zionist elite, ordinary people with powdery brains will always be a bargaining chip in the big game.
            1. 0
              12 November 2012 14: 06
              Quote: baltika-18
              ordinary people with powdered brains will always be a bargaining chip in the big game.


              And here, my friend I do not agree. I'm not sure that everything will be exactly as you say under the conditions that you call.
              1) If everything is as you say it, then this is a clear repetition of events preceding revolutions and civil wars. As a rule, such actions could no longer be stopped. In Russia, by and large, we don’t have a revolutionary mood. There are a handful of oppositions, and venal lazy people supporting them.
              2) Regarding the dollar. I can only agree with you if in 2013 the dollar does not begin to grow. * I won’t explain why the growth of the dollar is directly related to its collapse, who needs one and so knows.
              3) Today, there are forces far more interesting than world government. For example, China's growing capital. If something doesn’t happen to China or it doesn’t get involved in the war, then you can completely forget about the Zionist elite in a couple of years.
              1. +1
                12 November 2012 16: 23
                Quote: Manager
                And here, my friend I do not agree

                I do not like to argue, it makes no sense, because everyone will remain with his own. Time will judge.
  9. botur2013
    +4
    12 November 2012 10: 02
    .
    Quote: BigRiver
    There is a feeling that we are on the verge of some .., big changes

    On the verge of a big hedgehog !!!
  10. +4
    12 November 2012 10: 12
    "Supporters of Putin see a verified component in the president's actions ..." can be, can be ...
    That's just Serdyukov himself, and the last "set aside", and others like them, in recent years LARGE STATE Thieves (sorry) BUSINESSMEN - all of them were, and maybe still are - Putin's ASSISTANTS.
    This is a fact ...

    It remains only to observe ... and try to understand ... although, the last, it is unlikely ...
  11. +2
    12 November 2012 10: 34
    The pace taken by the president will soon lead to the fact that the parliamentary hour will be broadcast from Butyrka!
    "A thief should be in prison" (Zhiglov)
    1. 0
      12 November 2012 22: 15
      Quote: tommytros
      "A thief should be in prison" (Zhiglov)

      And fools are in a madhouse.
  12. aleksey
    +1
    12 November 2012 10: 36
    article plus Putin too plus ... not every head of state with a long stay in power is not able to stiffen and flexibly and adequately respond to changing circumstances, God grant him the strength and wisdom to keep his course on and on
  13. dmb
    +5
    12 November 2012 10: 42
    Very, very round. Strongly resembles the notorious Vassisualia Lokhankin. In pre-revolutionary Russia, Mr. Zubatov and priest Gapon did about the same. so Mr. Volodin does not invent anything new. Our country has already passed through bad boyars and good tsar. The consequences are also known. I hate the current "liberals", but where are they? They, together with the current government, have done everything to ensure that corruption flourishes, because they are flesh of the flesh of this power. It is possible to consider the same Serdyukov a statesman only by falling from an oak tree. But let us leave alone his theft. And the reform of the army itself without any concept, how is it? And here there are the least complaints about Serdyukov. The furniture maker cannot put forward the concept of reform. Where were the Security Councils, the Defense Councils and the person who headed them? Where hordes of well-paid advisers like Messrs. Pukhov and Korotchenko. So, in my opinion, Mr. Volodin got very excited about the wisdom of the Commander-in-Chief. Or, in his own words, the removal of Serdyukov after the theft of the defense budget is a preventive measure?
    1. +5
      12 November 2012 10: 57
      dmb
      Quote: dmb
      I hate the current "liberals", but where are they? They are so just together with the current government and did everything so that corruption flourished, because they are flesh from the flesh of this power

      + To you huge. Many damning so-called. "liberals", apparently, are not drawn to Putin's often repeated words when he talks about "our" democratic and liberal "path" ...
      So, it is ridiculous to hear from the adherents of Putin (liberal), abuse against the "liberals". The same "eggs", as they say, a side view ...
      1. 0
        13 November 2012 09: 16
        Quote: Z.A.M.
        often repeated words of Putin when he speaks of "our" democratic and liberal "way" ...
        .What can you offer. What system of coming to power, so that it is replaceable. Autocracy, dictatorship? What is the mechanism of change of power, only through a lot of blood? The fact is that the very idea of ​​power of the majority was discredited by the manipulation of the mass consciousness through modern PR-technologies.
        1. dmb
          +1
          13 November 2012 09: 50
          Let me try to answer. Do you like the current government? Do you believe that it can be changed through democracy and elections ?. It's not about replacing Putin with Zyuganov, Kudrin or Shoigu. It's about changing the social structure. One must really be a naive Chukchi guy (I’m not talking about you) in order to believe that Prokhorov and Potanin, Sechin and Chubais, Alekperov, etc. will join the construction of a bright future. Therefore, do not expect fair elections either. It is ridiculous to believe that when 1000 citizens own 72% of national wealth, the remaining 140 millions vote for a party expressing the aspirations of this thousand. (In numbers I may not be accurate, but the essence is this). And Putin, whose victory I do not dispute, was elected not because he was the best, but because the others who were elected were even worse.
    2. Brother Sarych
      +1
      12 November 2012 11: 47
      Not only that, it’s not particularly preventive, it won’t return anything from the stolen - like everything is already behind the cordon, nothing can be done, like now there’s nothing to punish ...
    3. +5
      12 November 2012 12: 50
      Quote: dmb
      Strongly reminiscent of the notorious Vassisualia Lokhankina. In pre-revolutionary Russia, Mr. Zubatov and Pop Gapon did about the same. so Mr. Volodin does not invent anything new. Our country has already passed through the evil boyars and the good king. The consequences are also known.

      Dmitry, I would put you 100 pluses. Absolutely true statement. They are all from one swamp. Separated only on paper in the articles of Messrs. Volodins and others like them.
  14. Gorchakov
    -1
    12 November 2012 10: 46
    What to guess and predict, wait and see! It may turn out that everything is not quite the way they are presented to us and want to convince us of something ...
  15. +10
    12 November 2012 10: 57
    By the way, the Head of the Presidential Administration S. Ivanov (like the GDP, the former Chekist) declared: We watched these crooks for a long time (referring to the CSW) and it was time to take them red-handed. I am not a Chekist, and I’m curious before of how billions will be taken out of the budget, was it impossible to take them?
    1. +1
      12 November 2012 11: 45
      AIR-ZNAK-directly and in the top ten !!!!!!!!! I agree with you 100% good
    2. Brother Sarych
      +1
      12 November 2012 11: 48
      What uncomfortable questions are you asking! It was necessary to give time to reliably hide the stolen ...
  16. Brother Sarych
    +1
    12 November 2012 11: 33
    While I do not see any signals! There was something in the style of Brezhnev from the movie of the same name: You are this, do not shawl!
    The signals will be when people go to land and circumstances will be voiced clearly and distinctly! In the meantime, I personally doubt it ...
  17. DRY
    DRY
    +1
    12 November 2012 11: 43
    let's hope for the best good

    WE WILL BREAK through TEA NOT ON THE FIRST.
  18. +2
    12 November 2012 11: 46
    Yes, not everything is in order in our kingdom, the state .... he looked, it turned out that Serdyukov was shoved all the same, he was trite to divorce his wife, who is known to Zubkov’s daughter, and everything lost touch with his family and went off, that's how we are doing state and are decided on the basis of ordinary family relationships ....
    But it’s time for Vladimir Vladimirovich, as they say, to take the bull by the horns if he wants to remain white and fluffy in history, he has little time left for changes; this is not 2000 or even 2008 ... the enemy is not asleep, and the legacy of the Great USSR is no longer enough to support our feudal capitalism ....
  19. serg1978
    +4
    12 November 2012 13: 02
    For those who do not understand, one hundred hands of the GDP are tied from shoulders to wrists, and can only move fingers with fingers, I recommend reading the article here
    http://lenta.ru/articles/2012/11/09/fedorov/
    Who has not read, you will learn a lot about the sovereignty of our country.
    We are a colony of the USA
    1. 0
      12 November 2012 18: 12
      serg1978,
      YOU ARE A PLUS COLLEAGUE!
      But there is no need to knock on the clave and give advice a lot of mind.
      ET we can!
  20. -2
    12 November 2012 13: 03
    It’s impossible to change everything straight away, for many years we were inspired by the fight against corruption and the desire of the authorities to improve the country, when the people became mentally ready for this, real actions went into action. Moscow was not built right away, but the state, and even more so for many years, would need to improve the situation in the country, and Putin still did a fine job doing it beautifully and accurately.
    1. 0
      13 November 2012 08: 17
      Slevinst,
      Who doesn’t like Putin, let them go to Europe, or go look for the best candidate. winked
  21. +2
    12 November 2012 14: 11
    Good tradition, that's just hard to believe .......
  22. survivor
    +1
    12 November 2012 14: 15
    all these displacements from their posts more and more suggest that the government is in a hurry to remove from its ranks those who, with KNOWN OPTIONS, will become the fifth column. in addition, over the past year, as it were very sharply and suddenly took up the army and navy. Well, the language does not dare to call it all planned. there is a persistent feeling, get ready !!! at the same time, READY with a capital letter! in the last year for the army more than twenty before !!! if they’ve already taken up the army, then soon it will be needed. Again, they took hold of the patriotic training firmly. oh ... I don't like that kind of haste!
    1. 0
      13 November 2012 08: 42
      Everything is true history has one lousy feature: the cycle ends, it soon smells fried, Which of the states couldn’t get ready in time, lost, It’s not in vain that they also talked about reserves for the army, everything was prepared for this, and they prepared about reform in the army when he was MARSHAL OGARKOV , But they didn’t have time yet, but the parameters probably didn’t get to it, They still haven’t started, And before SERDYUKOV the main task was to take control of financial flows to the Moscow Region and the military-industrial complex, He coped with this task, But spending and directing the flows caused a negative, And the tasks were right , Everything turned into a mess, And gentlemen, the generals perked up, we will take a foreign, Although not new, And a cloud of helpers came running to help choose what the helpers consider necessary. For them, it turned into a gold mine,
  23. +1
    12 November 2012 16: 59
    survivor,
    They are getting prepared, but how is it not being prepared in such a situation as now in the world you need to be fully equipped
  24. sergey05
    +1
    12 November 2012 17: 37
    "The king is made by his retinue." You don't have to go far for an example, for example Stalin is one of his positive traits, the ability to understand people and promote the best people and vice versa make the lazy work. Otherwise, there will be another Nikolashka 2 with "ministerial leapfrog" and Boriska with Chubais and Abramovich.

    PS It would be cool if the red electrician were sent to the bunk.

    PPSIf I apologize for spelling.
    1. 0
      12 November 2012 22: 34
      Sergey05- You are completely right. The suite makes the king. And if during this time besides my respected Shoigu S.K. . Recently, as soon as a scandal with those close to the throne was immediately transferred to another place of service. Moreover, the komenty were aired for perfect service or to break through new technologies. It is necessary to punish publicly and firmly so that the follower ass could feel that he could wait on it And so I didn’t come and saw what I stole, and further in swimming in the service of the sovereign (I mean in the service of the state) I got the impunity of officials and those in power.
  25. +1
    12 November 2012 18: 33
    IMHO:
    1. Either Shoigu will be the MO until the next minister is removed;
    2. or the next minister will be removed when the Defense Ministry gets to its feet ...
    Mr. President (Supreme Commander-in-Chief), haven’t it been possible in 12 years (!) To bring up worthy followers?
  26. +1
    12 November 2012 19: 12
    I read the comments. Horror! Everyone knows everything. And how to govern the state, and whom for what position, and what penalties should be and so on. and so on. Guys! Let's wait a bit! GDP is also not king and god. You forget what gadyushnik Moscow was turned into. Not in the 90s, but much earlier. Yes, if you jerk sharply, then you will not live a day. And do not flatter yourself and demand to restore order here and now. This is basically impossible. I carefully monitor the GDP. Yes, there were mistakes made in him, but the direction vector itself was built in the interests of Russia. Understand that it is impossible to quickly restore what was destroyed to the ground. I would like to wish the GDP success in his hard work, and for everyone present on the site and who are sick for Mother Russia to take a feasible part in the restoration of our state. Sincerely.
  27. +1
    12 November 2012 19: 46
    the idea of ​​the concept of a new president began to take shape.

    Somehow, through the priest it turned out, we first chose the president, and after 8 months we learn about the formation of the concept.

    And, apparently, Vladimir Putin really decided to carry out a kind of manual reconfiguration of the power system in Russia.

    And where should he go when the closest circle, according to the most optimistic assessment, "overlooked" the situation in key areas, and even squabbled among themselves.

    Putin acts more prudently and at the same time works exclusively preventively ...

    Neighing!

    In this case, Putin can be compared with an experienced surgeon.

    He was an archaeologist diver, an ornithologist-balloonist, he flew on a fighter, circled viburnum, he could also be a surgeon.

    subjected to harsh criticism from the liberal forces ...

    Yes, only liberals can criticize the main liberal in our country, with the instigation of the State Department, of course, the rest of the population in a single impulse approves all the schools of power, accepting the schools as a wise chess victim.

    However, this time this criticism itself does not stand up to any criticism ..

    Evo how. What kind of criticism can there be when the women of Serdyukov were stolen, (the Defense Ministry itself, by itself not by ear or snout), the wise president didn’t, like cutting some off his shoulder, but gave time to clean up his office, with
    Thank you dismissed furniture. The truth from the furniture side was followed by Alaverdi in the form of GLONASS grandmothers, and the wise president thinks what to do with Ivanov. In general, everything is very calm and most importantly preventive.

    if you don’t manage and break the law, there is work for the investigating authorities. This is a quite calm signal ...

    Of course calm, small bipods will sit down, and then not for long.

    This is the new approach to building a political system: if one of its mechanisms fails, then it must either be “repaired” or replaced, without stopping the overall work process.

    What is the work process, with constant repair?

    Mr. Volodin, for the umpteenth time trying to make a guarantor well done, where there is no mention of it. In light of the recent scandals with the immediate environment,
    Putin looks at least bewildered. Instead, in order to quickly respond to events, to extract from them at least some benefit, Putin remains silent as long as possible. Then he makes a decision that had to be made yesterday. It can be understood, their people are suffering. Everything would be fine, but it’s a shame for the Power.
  28. 0
    12 November 2012 19: 52
    officials we have a group of armies
  29. 0
    12 November 2012 21: 04
    Let's hope that these permutations will give a positive result.
    And personally, it seems to me that it will be so.
  30. 0
    12 November 2012 21: 19
    For a long time in Russia there were no reasons ......., and in some areas it would be nice, slightly ... so that someone would have fear.
    1. bask
      0
      12 November 2012 21: 25
      Bosk And who will be the guardsmen ??? Chubais and his team .... Kvachkov, Khobarov, with the accused ...
      1. 0
        13 November 2012 00: 15
        In our case, the best option is if people wake up the guardsmen ......... God forbid such an option ..., mopping up an adult and fear above the roof!
  31. 0
    12 November 2012 22: 18
    Personnel policy - it should be!
  32. mazdie
    +1
    12 November 2012 22: 42
    I propose a reform of the bureaucracy, preferably according to the scenario of the Armed Forces:
    1. Reduction of personnel
    2. Reduced service life
    3. Abolition of educational institutions
    4. A new form (space for imagination)
    5. Salary from next year as a lieutenant in the Armed Forces
    6. Cancellation of benefits
    Well, maybe he missed something?
    1. 0
      12 November 2012 23: 45
      great offer. the only problem is that bureaucratic reforms the same officials will carry out
  33. 0
    12 November 2012 23: 29
    I'm not so naive as to take it at face value.
    There is a very accurate saying about this: "You cannot teach an old dog new tricks" ...
    Everything just dragged on for many years, was disgusted, and some measures were ripe to create the appearance of work. Now a bone has been thrown into society - a couple of key ministers have been removed.
    There, half, after a month of probation, it was necessary to drive a filthy broom.
    In general, like this: I’ll wait with the praises, I don’t see the wind of change, the updated guarantor too.
    With such a speed, in 300 years we can catch up with the top twenty.
  34. 0
    13 November 2012 09: 24
    Everything is strange like that, not so long ago wrote in a commentary (on an article on the Ministry of Defense) that Putin gave a hint to officials and that they would take time to come back from heaven and take up the mind (if he still remained), I'm not talking about conscience . They laughed, and someone slapped the most zealous minus. And what am I observing, but I am observing this article which writes the same thing. And the reaction is normal. This is strange, as it is a little annoying.
  35. 0
    13 November 2012 10: 29
    Fresh:
    Moscow. November 12th. INTERFAX.RU - At a meeting of the Human Rights Council under the President of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Putin said he was ready to return to discussing the most high-profile amendments of the Russian Criminal Code in recent months. Again, the president proposed to consider bills on insulting the feelings of believers, on high treason, on libel and NGOs - foreign agents.
    Original material at http://www.interfax.ru/politics/txt.asp?id=275504

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