The Prime Minister of Sweden announced his readiness to transfer 155-mm Archer self-propelled howitzers and CV90 infantry fighting vehicles to Ukraine

More and more European countries are announcing their intention to supply armored vehicles to Ukraine, and Sweden has joined them. According to the Swedish press, the country's government decided to supply Kyiv with a batch of CV90 infantry fighting vehicles from the presence of the Swedish army.

The Western curators of Ukraine are clearly pushing the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to start the offensive, given how many armored vehicles are being prepared for transfer to Kyiv. We are talking mainly about infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers, tanks Ukraine will not get much, even if this decision is positive and Scholz agrees. Considering that the UK has promised to supply about 200 armored vehicles, the US - about 150, and several other countries will join them, the West will be able to transfer several brigades of the Armed Forces to armored vehicles.

Now back to Sweden. Today, January 19, 2023, the Prime Minister of this country, Ulf Kristersson, announced the readiness of Stockholm to supply Kyiv with 155-mm Archer self-propelled guns and CV90 infantry fighting vehicles. He did not say anything about the timing of the transfer, but this will happen in the near future, given the hype about Ukraine in Europe.

There is no information on the number of self-propelled guns, but it is known that Kyiv will receive some of the howitzers that Sweden was preparing to sell to the Norwegians. It was about 24 self-propelled guns, but the Armed Forces of Ukraine will receive no more than 12, such data is published by the Swedish media. But there is a little more information on the BMP, it is reported that 50 CV90 infantry fighting vehicles in the CV9040 modification will go to Ukraine. This armored vehicle is armed with a 40 mm L70 Boffors cannon.

In addition to armored vehicles, the Swedes will include NLAW anti-tank systems in the supply, there is no information on the number.

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[Mavrikiy]

The Prime Minister of Sweden announced his readiness to transfer 155-mm Archer self-propelled howitzers and CV90 infantry fighting vehicles to Ukraine

Neutrals, you say .... Cross out.

[PROXOR]

Either ours are starting to accelerate the resolution of the issue of Ukrostan, or the meat grinder will really be tough in 2023. And 2022 will seem like an easy walk. Abrashki, Leopards, Leclercs, Archers, CV90s, Marders... the list is already long and this is not outdated trash from all over the geyropa.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Neutrals, you say .... Cross out.

For more than two hundred years, the Swedes have not fought with Russia, and their last war was with Norway in 1814. Although it cannot be mentioned that in 1918 they fought with Soviet Russia for the Aland Islands.
But still, the genetic enmity towards the Russians, which dates back to the XNUMXth century, when the Swedes began to fight with the Russians, takes over and the Swedes again "swung" at Russia.
They forgot Poltava and Gangut.

[Thorvlobnor IV]

"Genetic feud"? A new word in medicine or is it an old story about nations of the first and second class?

[donavi49]

In case you missed it, on May 18, 22, the Swedish government renounced the status of a neutral country, and on July 5 applied to NATO. Now only Turkey is holding back the finalization of Sweden's accession to NATO.

[Zoldat_A]

Have Swedes Poltava itched?
I know a man - he came from Afghanistan without a hand. 35 years old no hand, but the weather hurts.

And the turn will come to the Swedes ...

[lucul]

And the turn will come to the Swedes ..

So why don't they send M-16 rifles? We were assured here for years that the M-16 is better than Kalash - with the M-16 they will win))))

[Negro]

Quote: lucul

So why don’t they send M-16 rifles

Send, but they are not really needed. Why would you?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Zoldat_A

And the turn will come to the Swedes ...

"Covid-19" led many Western countries to phantom pains, but they have been at war with Russia for the last 200 years, but phantom pains in the Swedes, even after 200 years, this is already a serious mental illness.

[kor1vet1974]

More and more European countries announce their intention to supply armored vehicles to Ukraine

Well, not for free! They will supply, what in return, if Sweden is interested?

[rosomaha]

scum...like their rotten herring. Everyone is climbing. And who will help us?

[Gomunkul]

And who will help us?

I will answer you with the words of Alexander III.

“In the whole world we have only two true allies,” he liked to say to his ministers, “our army and navy. All the rest, at the first opportunity, will take up arms against us.”

[voyaka uh]

At the same time, Alexander III solemnly concluded a military alliance with France.
England later joined.
This is how the Entente was formed, which determined on whose side Russia fought in the First World War.

[Falcon Buster]

People are very fond of taking the phrase of Alexander 3 out of context, but they would at least ask under what circumstances it was said ..

[Rosemary]

Quote from Falcon Buster

People are very fond of taking the phrase of Alexander 3 out of context, but they would at least ask under what circumstances it was said ..

Moreover, after a couple of decades, the army and navy turned out to be those "allies" for the Russian Empire:
We see the city of Petrograd
In the seventeenth year:
A sailor is running, a soldier is running,
Shooting on the go
(C)

[Gomunkul]

Moreover, after a couple of decades, the army and navy turned out to be those "allies" for the Russian Empire:

Not the entire army and navy participated in the revolutionary events that you cited as an example.

The probability of a soldier's "buza" at the slightest fluctuation in the situation in the capital was understood and some of the officers interpreted in the spirit of naive psychologism. Here is what, literally from the words of one of them, a member of the Progressive Bloc V.V. Shulgin, who somehow stopped to observe the exercises of the soldiers: “You don’t look at the fact that in every square and street they“ print ”in the snow. From this side they were taken. But that doesn't change them. Do you know what kind of audience this is? These are sissies! These are all those who endlessly avoided mobilization under various pretexts. They don't care, as long as they don't go to war. And besides, there are objective reasons for displeasure. People are terribly bored. The berths are placed in three rows, one above the other, as in a third-class carriage. Just a little - they will rebel. Here, mark my word."
And yet, dissatisfied with the living conditions in the barracks and the drill, the military contingent was ready to endure hardships further. The main thing that, of course, kept him from protesting and outweighed all the visible inconveniences, was his stay in the capital. It was considered from the point of view of unofficial armor, exempting from being sent to the theater of operations. However, the sense of security that had grown deep in the minds of the St. Petersburg "servicemen" was undermined by reports from the conference of representatives of the Entente countries, held in November 1916 in Chantilly, and then in Petrograd. (Recall that the Petrograd Conference ended on February 21, 1917.) The task of carrying out the 1917 campaign "with the highest tension and using all available resources" was put on the order of the day by the command.8 As always, Russia was assigned the role of the main supplier of "cannon fodder" . Hence the need for an urgent replenishment of the front groupings, since the alleged offensive of the Russian troops was to begin between April 1 and May 1. The disturbing rumors that disturbed the peace of the Petrograd garrison became the frustrating factor that shaped its aggressive attitudes.

Источник:https://human.snauka.ru/2011/09/752?ysclid=ld42rdi3lb506779248

[Gomunkul]

People are very fond of taking the phrase of Alexander 3 out of context, but they would at least ask under what circumstances it was said ..

Dear, if you already said: "A", then you should probably also say: "B", otherwise it is your comment that looks like a phrase taken out of context.

“The bitter experience of the XNUMXth century,” writes the Grand Duke, “taught the Tsar that every time Russia took part in the struggle of any European coalitions, she later had only to regret it bitterly. Alexander I saved Europe from Napoleon I, and the result was the creation of mighty Germany and Austria-Hungary on the western borders of the Russian Empire.
His grandfather Nicholas I sent the Russian army to Hungary to suppress the revolution of 1848 and restore the Habsburgs to the Hungarian throne, and in gratitude for this service, Emperor Franz Joseph demanded political compensation for his non-intervention during the Crimean War. Emperor Alexander II remained neutral in 1870, thus keeping his word given to Emperor Wilhelm I, and eight years later, at the Congress of Berlin, Bismarck deprived Russia of the fruits of its victories over the Turks.
The French, the British, the Germans, the Austrians - all, to varying degrees, made Russia an instrument for achieving their selfish goals.
Alexander III did not have friendly feelings towards Europe. Always ready to accept a challenge, Alexander III, however, at every opportunity made it clear that he was only interested in what concerned the well-being of 130 million of the population of Russia.

My comment to which you found fault, if you read it carefully, was adapted to modern realities, and, as can be seen from the text above, they have not changed for Russia in 200 years, as history shows, Europe does not remember good.

[Skeptic3]

And what good have we done to Europe in 2022?

[Gomunkul]

At the same time, Alexander III solemnly concluded a military alliance with France.

Here you are not quite right, Alexander III was not the initiator of this union. Here is what is available in open sources about it:

France needed a military alliance more than Russia. At the same time, it could use the financial dependence of tsarism on French capital to induce Russia to bind itself to allied obligations. However, one should not see in this dependence the only basis of the Franco-Russian alliance. Although not as strong as France, the tsarist government was also afraid of remaining isolated in the face of Germany. It became especially alarmed after the renewal of the Triple Alliance took place on May 6, 1891, accompanied by demonstrations of friendship between its participants and England.

Source: https://histrf.ru/read/articles/zakliuch future-soiuza-s-frantsiiei-event?ysclid=ld424164hh291317614

[alex-pmr]

in my opinion, the best signal of the seriousness of our intentions will be the withdrawal from the nuclear test ban agreement. A real explosion as part of a nuclear weapons test could sober up our "partners"

[donavi49]

What is it? You are talking about nuclear weapons, so it seems that only one side has it. Withdrawal from the treaty banning nuclear explosions will also allow the Americans to bang. It doesn't scare anyone. What's next? Exit from non-proliferation = in a month, a maximum nuclear power Poland with delivery vehicles to Moscow, and even nuclear Latvia and Lithuania. All these decisions will be played by both sides.

[Arzoo]

No signals needed. Everyone understands everything. Well, not idiots. If necessary, we will inflict a series of tactical nuclear strikes on the near rear of the advancing group and let them take their infantry fighting vehicles for scrap. Count and send a signal.

[donavi49]

Will the US and NATO get scared and capitulate? Just like the Europeans by January will crawl to beg for forgiveness and stick to the gas pipe? And if not? Are you in such a hurry "to paradise" with the entire population of, say, Moscow?

[tralflot1832]

The West went to the bank. Decided to defeat us in Ukraine. And the option that if they lose in Ukraine, then they themselves will have to go to the front line in a taxi, they don’t support Russia?

[Negro]

Quote: tralflot1832

the option is that if they lose in Ukraine, then they themselves will have to go to the front line in a taxi, do they not support Russia?

What is there to consider? "Losing in Ukraine" - what exactly is this?

[Skeptic3]

It seems to me that someone else went all-in.

[Murmur 55]

Well, what are they preparing for the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, with such supplies, the mobility of Ukrainians increases by an order of magnitude, which means they will try to knock our people out of the territories liberated from Kyiv, after euphoria and dizziness from victories in the fall of 22, we must repeat for this and prepare. Half of the winter has passed Ukraine has not frozen, it does not smell of a humanitarian catastrophe, reserves are being actively prepared in the EU and the USA, the population dislikes Russia more and more and is consolidating around Kyiv. So everything is not even bad for Zelensky yet, given that he is at war not with some state, but with Russia itself.

[Kaufman]

Yes. Exactly. From the point of view of the West, it successfully opposes 2 armies of the world. This is indicative. That's all covered. Remains of fear will soon disappear

[Skeptic3]

Russia was called the second army of the world based on the quantitative characteristics of its armed forces. About quality, as often happens, they forgot.
As far as I know, but during WWII, a German tank or fighter with a well-trained and motivated crew was a nightmare for the Soviet army. Despite the fact that there were not so many of them.

[alexander 66]

There is only one name: receive and sign! In spring and summer we prepare for people. Its like that.

[voyaka uh]

CV-90 is perhaps the best Western BIS. Easier and more reliable than Bradley and Marder.

[Falcon Buster]

The automatic 40mm cannon is also serious. You definitely can’t call this obsolete rubbish

[cold wind]

Quote: voyaka uh

CV-90 is perhaps the best Western BIS. Easier and more reliable than Bradley and Marder.

I would say simply the best BMP in terms of a combination of all parameters.

[Vladimir Dmitrievich Burtsev]

This Prime Minister of Sweden is acting very stupidly. Who needs these Bandera fascists from Ukraine? Biden needs the Baderites as mercenaries to fight Russia. And this half-wit from Sweden simply throws hundreds of millions of crowns from the Swedish budget to the wind.

[voyaka uh]

Why is it stupid?
These infantry fighting vehicles and self-propelled guns have long been paid from the budget. They stand idle, gather dust, rust.
And then they will be tested in real difficult conditions against a strong opponent, shortcomings will be revealed in order to improve.
Moreover, not a single Swedish soldier will suffer.

[Skeptic3]

There is a nuance. In Europe, a front line arose, which began to move rapidly towards Sweden.
Just because you're blind doesn't mean the Swedish Prime Minister is stupid.

[Arzoo]

Ukrop will have a full-fledged NATO corps by the summer. Such prospects. Well .... In extreme cases, there are a couple of options. Or. A series of tactical nuclear strikes on the near rear of the advancing group is guaranteed to turn all this stuff into trash. Or. A series of conventional strikes on logistics centers in Poland will quickly put the adversary at the negotiating table.

[Thorvlobnor IV]

Hey, hello to you from the future, people from 1998! You can't even imagine what will happen soon! Putin will become president of Russia, and Poland will join NATO in 1999!
Jokes are jokes, but it would be nice to understand the situation a little before writing long but stupid comments.

[Skeptic3]

You greatly overestimate the conventional potential of the RF Armed Forces. For the fourth month they have not been able to paralyze the energy sector of Ukraine, which is much closer than Poland.
Having such a potential to carry out an attack on a NATO country is suicide.
And as for nuclear weapons, I have only one question for you - are you personally ready to burn in a nuclear fire?