The heavy nuclear cruiser "Admiral Nakhimov", undergoing repairs, began loading fuel

At Sevmash, where the major overhaul and modernization of the Admiral Nakhimov TARKR is underway, plans have been confirmed to bring the cruiser to trials this year. This was reported by the press service of the enterprise.

Work on the ship is proceeding according to the schedule agreed with the Ministry of Defense, at the moment, shipbuilders have begun one of the most important stages - receiving power and loading fuel. Although the company does not provide details, it can be argued that fuel is being loaded into a nuclear reactor, which means that the work is nearing completion. The cruiser was put in for repair back in 1999, but hands reached it only in 2013. In preparation for the repair, the old fuel was unloaded from the reactor.

Speaking about plans to repair the Admiral Nakhimov, Mikhail Budnichenko, general director of Sevmash, said that all systems, equipment and complexes were installed over the past year, this year it is necessary to prepare premises for settling in the crew and bring the ship to the testing stage.

In 2023, shipbuilders of Sevmash should form and finish the cabins and cockpits for the crew to move in and enter a new stage - testing the ship

- he stressed.

Earlier it was reported that the Ministry of Defense approved the schedule for preparing the cruiser for testing.

The cruiser "Admiral Nakhimov" of project 1144 "Orlan" was laid down on May 17, 1983 under the name "Kalinin". April 25, 1986 launched, December 30, 1988 became part of the Soviet Navy. April 22, 1992 renamed "Admiral Nakhimov". It is one of four Project 1144 Orlan heavy nuclear cruisers.

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[tralflot1832]

To test everything that was inserted into it, probably a lot of electricity is needed. Formulation: Receiving power and loading fuel does not mean loading nuclear reactors. Maybe they just want to put diesel generators into operation.

[Sergey39]

I think you are wrong!
The reactors were not cut out of the ship, they just unloaded nuclear fuel from the reactor! For Severodvinsk, this is a common thing! Everything, boats of previous projects, reloaded spent nuclear fuel from boats to Hiroshima, then to wagons and for storage, to the Urals!
And, to steam pipelines, cables for power transmission and ventilation of compartments, it was always connected! Without this it is impossible to carry out repair work!!!
I remember, minusers, for my words about bringing the ship to trials at the end of this year, they were actively criticized!
Let's see which side is right! Severodvinsk shipbuilders, the most competent and active shipbuilders!
And, the plugging and postponement occurred due to subcontractors who supply equipment and weapons with a delay!)))
Nakhimov, still drink blood, to our potential "friends" !!!)))

[Normann]

Very few exclamation marks, very few.

[tralflot1832]

I went to one tricky site. Yes, this is exactly the fuel that is needed to make the ship come to life and it is not for diesel generators. I'm sorry.

[Borik]

Everyone has already been waiting and is looking forward to the completion of the repair of the cruiser.

[Popandos]

The article has the more interesting part

shipbuilders have begun one of the most important stages - the reception of power

What is that supposed to mean?
PySy most likely load fuel into reactors, according to project 1144, the main power supply comes from steam turbine generators, boilers and gas turbine generators are a reserve, why waste their resources.

[doctor_alex]

Acceptance into the regular electrical systems of the ship from the shore, to start mooring equipment. Prior to this, electricity was only technological (power supply for lighting, temporary ventilation and tools). So understand.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Popandos

The article has the more interesting part
shipbuilders have begun one of the most important stages - the reception of power

What is that supposed to mean?

Most likely, this means that the ship's electrical network was supplied with electricity, most likely not yet from an onboard source, but from a coastal source, through cables, if it is said about RECEPTION of power supply.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: tralflot1832

To test everything that was inserted into it, probably a lot of electricity is needed. Formulation: Receiving power and loading fuel does not mean loading nuclear reactors. Maybe they just want to put diesel generators into operation.

On the heavy nuclear missile cruiser "Admiral Nakhimov" of project 11442M (code "Orlan"), which is being repaired and modernized at Sevmash, power supply has begun, fuel is being loaded. According to the press service of the enterprise, this is one of the defining stages for the further advancement of work.
https://flotprom.ru/2023/%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%881/

[smart ass]

There is a reason to have a drink! Happy Friday everyone!

[d ^ Amir]

sorry "Lazarev" was not saved

[Murmur 55]

d ^ Amir , there is a lot of things to regret, and "Lazarev" is just one of many points.

[Sergey39]

Yes, it is a pity! But alas, at that time it was not possible to capitalize it in the Far East, and it was not possible to overtake it in Severodvinsk, it was too dilapidated !!!

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: d ^ Amir

sorry "Lazarev" was not saved

To our great regret, it is a pity that many projects were not saved. It’s a pity that they didn’t save the Saryches, it’s a pity that they didn’t save the Gyrfalcons, it’s a pity that they didn’t build at least a dozen Hawks.
Now if our enemies would be a little more respectful with us...

[Sergey39]

Barrows, it was difficult to save them, their boiler group yesterday, I think at one time due to backwardness, designed such power plants for them.
The gyrfalcons, driven into scrap metal, by their stupid policy, built the ships, but the coastal structure, no. So they destroyed their motor resources on the roadstead.
Yastrebov, planned 8pcs. They built 4 until Ukraine cut off the supply of its gas turbine engines. Our gas turbine engines were not suitable for this project and, frankly, they got involved in it because of plugs with the 22350 frigate project. Two hulls of the Hawks were sold to India (they are being built in Kaliningrad. One hull without filling, dangles against the wall on Yantar.) Yes, and the 22350 project is more modern and more successful than project 11540.

[S. Nikolaev]

Barrows, it was difficult to save them, their boiler group yesterday, I think at one time due to backwardness, designed such power plants for them.

Yes, it was difficult to save them, or rather impossible. And the point here, probably, is not the backwardness of the machine itself, but the fact that by the beginning of the XNUMXs (namely, at that time it still made sense to restore and modernize them), many production facilities had already been lost - no tubes, no boilers themselves, no gearboxes I don't think they did it anymore.

[Nordsc0l]

You messed up. Only 2 hawks were built. The third was never completed and was sent for recycling. 11356 Talwar is being built for India. This is based on project 1135. For the Russian fleet, it bears the index 11356R.

[couch]

if we repair at such a pace (23 years) !!! warships, we'll soon be left with tattered galoshes

[Sergey39]

You, take repairs not from the moment the ship is taken out of service, but from the moment the repairs actually begin !!!
Renovation is an unpredictable business! There are always pitfalls!
The repair was never carried out on time, the eternal shift to the right !!!
With galoshes, got excited! Slowly, but due to the possibilities of our industry, we are building ships!

[bayard]

Quote from sofa

if we repair at such a pace (23 years) !!!

23 years ago, the ship was laid up (!) pending repairs. The phrase "put out for repair" in this case until 2013 was incorrect. The ship has been under repair since 2013, but 10 years for repairs is also too much. Initially, they planned to manage it in 5 years and for 100 billion rubles. But in the course of the renovation plans for modernization expanded, and with them both the terms and the price tag. As a result, to date, about 200 billion rubles have been spent on repairs and modernization. (information from Klimov, and he is a very knowledgeable person in this matter).
With such a pace and a price tag, it is hardly worth dreaming about modernizing its sisterships. Even with regard to the upcoming repair and modernization of "Peter the Great" (which in Russian will be "Big Stone"), there are rumors about a much more modest degree of modernization. For it is expensive, long and not worth it - for the sake of an extra 10 - 15 years of service, throwing away for modernization the cost of building a new cruiser (non-nuclear) similar to the VI and with the composition of weapons like that of Nakhimov.
One hope is that during the modernization of Nakhimov, weapons and equipment systems (especially radar and air defense in general) will be worked out, which can later be deployed on new large ships of the heavy destroyer / cruiser class.

[Normann]

later, you can deploy heavy destroyer / cruiser on new large ships of the class.

And what kind of shipyard will build them, all existing ones at the moment are fully loaded for several years to come. And we simply don’t have the capacity to build something big. ((

[bayard]

Quote: Normann

And what shipyard will build them

Petersburg, of course. There exactly a new boathouse for such dimensions was built. The question is only in the propulsion system. This can be a power plant based on 4 M90FR (4 x 27 = 500 l / s), or based on turbocouples from M110FRU and a GTU with a capacity of 000 - 70 l / s (40 x (000 + 45 000 \ 2) \u14d 000 \ 40 l \ s, or based on their M000FRU turbopairs + a gas turbine unit under development with a capacity of 45 l \ s (000 x (108 + 000) \u118d 000 l \ s. The gas turbines being developed are already on the way and can be used to form a power plant for promising aircraft carriers of medium VI.
You can, if you wish, puzzle Zaliv with such an order in the city of Kerch, but for this the plant will have to work seriously on itself.
It is possible to expand the capacities at the Far Eastern Zvezda. For we still need such capacities in the Far East, and the Amur Shipyard has a limitation in size and VI.
It is possible to adapt or develop capacities in Severodvinsk.
But first and foremost, the head office will be built in St. Petersburg. The new boathouse is designed for the simultaneous construction of two ships ... but this is not enough.
But these restrictions matter only for heavy destroyers / cruisers VI from 12 to 000 tons. Destroyers of medium VI and heavy frigates can be safely built at existing facilities in St. Petersburg and Kaliningrad Yantar. And also on the Amur Shipyard and on the Gulf. There is enough capacity, the only question is the readiness of the industry to rhythmically supply power plants for all ships under construction. During this year, the maturity of the first domestic power plant should be proved by factory and state tests of the frigate "Admiral Golovko".

[Alex777]

The Japanese are building a fleet so cheerfully that they can do Peter normally ...
Moreover, experience has been gained, and Peter is in a much better condition.

[bayard]

Quote: Alex777

The Japanese are building a fleet so cheerfully that they can do Peter normally ...

Japanese??
Alexander, you're scaring me. But the fact that "Nakhimov" is being prepared for testing is good. So soon into service, and "Petra" into modernization. I would very much like to see the new architecture of the Nakhimov radar, and in general, its new look.

[far diu]

10 years is a very long time. For comparison, the US aircraft carrier ''Ford'' was launched in 4 years, and if we take into account the entire cycle (start of construction to operation), then it took 7,5 years.

Even the lazy French built their aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle with a displacement of 42 in 000 years and the entire cycle took 5 years.

[bayard]

Quote: far diu

10 years is a very long time.

For a long time . Highly . But you also need to understand that in our case it was not even about repair and not even about modernization, but about the practical reconstruction of this entire ship. First, the dismantling of all old equipment, the overcooking of many interior spaces. And rebuilding is always harder, more expensive and longer than just building from scratch. And there, after all, almost one building remained, and a rebuilt nuclear power plant. All stuffing is new ... And it really is new. And the CICS, and the RLC, and the entire air defense system circuit, and the strike weapons complex, and the complete replacement / re-laying of cables, and all general ship systems. In addition, radical changes were made several times to the modernization project. Such a large delay is most likely caused by the development and debugging of a new radar and, in general, a new air defense system. Do you even understand what parameters the radar of such a (!) Ship should have? On it, most likely, all / most of the new systems for future large ships of the large destroyer / cruiser class will be worked out. And we will definitely have such ships.
So the modernization (if to the same level) of "Peter the Great" will be carried out, for sure, in a much shorter time, because everything will already be worked out and no throwing will be required. So "Petra" is quite likely to be modernized in 5 years. And if the modernization project is simplified, then even faster.

[savage3000]

and the entire air defense system circuit
____________

there is most likely an old s-300

[Sergey39]

I want to add to your information, one more aspect!
The time of large-capacity ships such as a heavy cruiser, an aircraft carrier is a thing of the past. The modern development of military affairs and modern technologies require ships with a smaller displacement.

[bayard]

Quote: Sergey39

The time of large-capacity ships such as a heavy cruiser, an aircraft carrier is a thing of the past. The modern development of military affairs and modern technologies require ships with a smaller displacement.

Everything is exactly the opposite - frigates (which previously had 3000-4500 tons of VI) are now getting heavier and all the new ones in the west have already exceeded 7 tons of VI. Yes, and their aircraft carriers are gaining in size and VI with each turn - the Ford is heavier and larger than the Nimitz, the British (whatever they are) turned out to be much larger than the De Gaulle, and the new French promises to be up to 000 tons. IN AND .
And the new US destroyers will be 30-35 percent heavier than the previous Burks ... and the new European frigates have grown one and a half to two times.
The Chinese also have ships that are getting heavier from series to series. Look at their 055 . And they will have new flat-deck aircraft carriers in 75 - 000 tons of VI.
Everyone is growing.
And just go * o * you play "mosquito fleet". Of the large states, I know only one such. As I know, all these "innovative and modular" fads were pure wrecking and sabotage against the country's defense capability. When freaks 22160 and 20386 were built instead of normal corvettes. When they didn’t lay down new corvettes for FIVE years ... and left the Fleet without ships of the near zone ... When they didn’t order type frigates from China. 054A housings for our weapons systems and UDC type. 071 after a break with the Mistrals.
And as a result, we don’t have a Navy AGAIN before the war.
And as usual, the sabotage and sabotage of the "Entente agents" was hidden under the mask of "stupidity"\"naivety"\"passion for fashion trends".
Where will you send your Buyans now without air defense, without anti-aircraft defense, with disgusting seaworthiness and restrictions on the use of weapons by range? To the next bay, wait out the storm?
Stupidity and even more so stubbornness in History is always (!) Punishable.
Tsushima or the complete non-combat readiness of the Navy for war at sea in the First and Second World Wars.
The USSR after WWII drew conclusions and built a mighty Ocean Fleet.
And now you want to transfer it to boats and air mattresses?

[Alexey RA]

Quote: bayard

the English ones (whatever they were) turned out to be much larger than De Gaulle,

It's just the British. They have a displacement left from the time when it was a project of a large nuclear aircraft carrier with catapults and normal aircraft, the successor to the CVA-01.
On the other side of the strait, they were able to shove a reactor, catapults and 40 vehicles, including AWACS, in just 42 kt.

[Boniface]

My naval cradle!
Finally, I will celebrate the holiday of the ship on board this updated handsome!

[Gomunkul]

Work on the ship is proceeding according to the schedule agreed with the Ministry of Defense

They would have made this schedule public, otherwise the deadlines for the delivery of the Navy ship have already been shifted to the right several times.

[_Engineer_]

Moscow "samotopes" drowned. Now the long-suffering cruiser is being reanimated, which, I have already lost count, x / s how many times they wanted to write it off for scrap, so the "Sharks" will soon be returned.)))

[seamen2]

And such names as the cruiser * Ukraine * and pl * Zaporozhye * do not tell you anything?
you can also *remember the dacha saiga*.

[sadam2]

shocked. 40 years ... so everything is bad with the military? the tanker is already 15 years old and they pay on top

[Alexey RA]

Quote from Sadam2

shocked. 40 years ... so everything is bad with the military? the tanker is already 15 years old and they pay on top

It's okay - big pots always last a long time. If there is no cardinal change of concept, then they can serve up to half a century.
Look, the Yankees are still running "Tiki" 1986-1987.

[sadam2]

He was not kept at the dock, but at the wall and not in fresh water. If the outboard reinforcement can be cut out to change at the root, then pierce the body for 40 years with a nail. Ohhh I don't envy bch5

[Sergey39]

I advise you to read about the order of modernization of Nakhimov.
Modernization began with the defiction of the hull and its repair, then it went throughout the ship!

[sadam2]

)))) I’ll drive a 20-year-old bucket into the dock in a month ... by my grandfather ... at the wall it’s 150 kW from the shore ... neither anti-corrosion nor anti-fouling (I don’t know how in Russian) will fit ... Have you felt the steamer? ))

[savage3000]

during repairs it was kept in the air. everything is ok with the case, it was made there for centuries.

[Alex777]

The States and the battleship Wisconsin ran until 1988 ...

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Alex777

The States and the battleship Wisconsin ran until 1988 ...

Yes, the Iowa four is a good example, they, like the Nakhimov, stood (including in the sludge) more than they ran.
And if you take active service ships, then the Midway immediately comes to mind. 1946-1992 Started with piston engines, completed service with jet engines of the 4th generation.

[burigaz2010]

Not a happy name for a ship, and the admiral himself too

[Sergey39]

Don't touch the Admiral! Such heroic admirals, count on the fingers!
May his ashes rest in peace in the lower part of the Vladimir Cathedral in Sevastopol!
If I have the opportunity to get to Sevastopol, I visit this tomb, the great Russian Admirals !!!)))

[burigaz2010]

If you offended me, I'm sorry, Nazimov is a great admiral, but his fate, like the ships of his name, is not very good!

[SVlyga]

Hooray! The real ship is being commissioned.

[Andrew Rassahatsky]

I served on this ship as a senior chemist - Very good news !!!!

[Stepan S]

Fortunately, there is no difficulty in forming a crew for a cruiser - several hundred are sitting idle with the Moskva RK.

[savage3000]

doubtful. there may be privates, but the entire composition should be demoted for the loss of a ship from scratch.

[savage3000]

handsome! Would rather have a look at it!

[Russian Patriot]

Even somehow I can’t believe that Nakhimov will go to sea.