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Wars and genetics
Growing up to be a killer...



“Anxious people can be good and evil.
If there are many restless and kind people in the world,
will be good".

J. Korczak "King Matt on a desert island"

History and culture. Although on Earth since 1945, fortunately, there has not been a large-scale war, local wars have been fought repeatedly. In them, in the same way, although in smaller quantities, people died, material values ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbwere destroyed. But for what?

What are the goals of this action? It seems that at first glance, all wars and at all times have the same goals. But modern science today allows us to doubt this.

What is transmitted and what is not?


Moreover, only one can name the causes of armed conflicts today, although in fact they are based on something completely opposite! That is, not at all what it seemed to be at the very first glance!

Recall that one of the important provisions of such a science as cultural studies is the assertion that culture is not transmitted to descendants through the marriage of parents, that is, it is not genetically inherited. And it seems to have been proven time and time again.

There is a legend (or it is not a legend at all) that a certain king (I think it was some Indian Maharaja) wished to know which of the human languages ​​is the most ancient. He locked babies of different nationalities in the “male sex” tower and assigned deaf-and-dumb ministers to follow them. The children grew up, and then he ordered them to be brought to the palace and began to ask questions, hoping in this way to find out what language they would speak, because that language would then be the most ancient, and already from it, as he believed, the Maharaja, all the rest descended. But the children remained silent in response to his questions. They did not know how to speak at all, that is, the skills of articulate speech were not genetically transmitted to them.

An example is also known with two Indian girls raised by wolves. The eldest of them eventually died, unable to adapt to life in human society. The other, even at the age of 17, behaved like a seven-year-old child, and she never rose higher in her development. True, they still managed to teach her to wear clothes, eat not with her hands, but with a spoon and from a plate, and even talk a little.

At the same time, there are many examples when children who never met their parents behaved exactly the same as if they had lived next to them for many years. At the household level, we keep saying: “He is an exact copy of his father!”, Although dad does not live with his son from the very moment of his birth. “She is all in her mother!” But how could it be, because her mother died in childbirth, and the girl never saw her, except perhaps in a photograph. However, she holds the fork in her hand exactly like her, and her habits are exactly the same. So something is still being transmitted, isn't it? Abilities are certainly transmitted, character traits are inherited, and quite a lot more ...

Consequences of the liberty of the nobility


But does it affect the life of human society? It turns out that it does, and how! And it has been for a very long time.

But we will not climb into the time of the ona, but why not start from the XNUMXth century?

And remember that on February 18, 1762, Peter III signed a very important document - the decree "On the Liberty of the Nobility." In accordance with it, the nobles could no longer serve in the army or in other state institutions, but freely live on their estates and not know grief!

Catherine II in 1785 confirmed this decree of her murdered husband, as a result of which many nobles moved to live in their estates and began to personally supervise their serfs. Well, it is clear that they did what they liked. Someone by hunting, someone by breeding horses and dogs, and someone from an excess of womanly love simply spoiled the peasant girls and rejoiced. And very soon the landlords noticed a seemingly banal thing: that purebred dogs have purebred puppies, and mongrel dogs have mongrel ones. Actually, this was known before, but now all this same thing was happening right before their eyes, that is, the landowners. And not only with horses and dogs, but also with people!

Because there were serfs of "exemplary behavior" who did not cause them any trouble? Were! And among the peasants there were also “presumptuous brawlers” and ... The landowners successfully got rid of the latter - they handed them over to the soldiers, and that was the end of it! Well, those who “at least eat with porridge, at least butter from them,” they prudently married exactly the same stupid and complaisant girls, they say, “look at how she is: a good girl, full.”

And this is what happened: in conditions when intellectual selection in society ceased to operate for several millennia (and it operated in conditions of tribal relations before the appearance of the first cities), stupid, but complaisant, and smart and restless (in in all respects, as King Matt correctly noted) ended up in the army. There, the chances of reproducing and passing on their genes to their offspring were minimal. But even their children still fell into the category of cantonists and replenished the entire same army of the Russian Empire!

So the victories of such generals as Rumyantsev, Suvorov and Kutuzov should not be particularly surprising. It’s just that they had, one might say, excellent human material at hand from quick-witted and brave soldiers, who, without exaggeration, represented the elite of the Russian nation! But in the villages the most slow-witted and stupid men remained, so progress in the Russian countryside went at such a snail's pace.

Although ... there were exceptions. Even two parents of Downs happen to have normal children. Everything can be: “it happens that a girl’s husband dies, but a widow lives.”

Although not only Russian emperors were noted for experiments in the field of genetics. When the Prussian emperor Frederick II desired to have an army of tall soldiers, without thinking much, he ordered the adoption of a new inheritance law, according to which all the property of the late father was transferred without exception to the very ... undersized son! And - he really received an army of tall men, but at the same time - since they died in masses and did not multiply, in the most serious way he lowered the average growth of the German nation for whole centuries to come!

For a long time, Germany, in terms of the average height of men, occupied one of the last places in Europe and pulled up to 187-190 cm only in recent decades. Moreover, the increase in average height coincided with the first mass migration of Turkish men from Turkey to this country. That is, the migrants brought "fresh blood" with them, and the consequences of Frederick's ambitions gradually leveled off.

"The grenadiers are strong men, the grenadiers have a mustache, and they are tall!"


Napoleon Bonaparte - himself short, ordered to recruit people no lower than 180 cm into his guard. Then the whole mass of "six-foot people" died in the Battle of Waterloo to the cries of "The Guard is dying, but not surrendering." And, as a result of the Napoleonic Wars, tall men in France became a rarity.

But the Europeans still did not remain quite short. The fact is that the victorious Russian army entered Paris! And among them were ... Cossacks! Who directly "telesh" bathed in the Seine and ... There was something to see for French women who were hungry for male power. And yes, we had officers. So the women began to ... "welcome" them, which resulted in mass desertion!

There are different points of view on how many soldiers escaped from the Russian army then. The figure is called, and quite real - 4 thousand, and completely unrealistic - 40. It is impossible to check today which one is more accurate. But there are decrees of Emperor Alexander I on the forgiveness of deserters, and for some reason they acted for a very long time. And since special laws were even adopted, this suggests that this phenomenon was of a rather massive character.

In any case, the average height of the French leveled off quickly. At the same time, Russian genes were added to them, so they are also in front of us in the “genetic debt”.

Hitler in "Mein Kampf" began to blame the French for incest with Annamites (Vietnamese) and Africans. And was he really wrong, it is very difficult to say, in any case, the type of a real Frenchwoman - that is, with white skin, blue eyes and golden hair - remained only where? In the fairy tales of Charles Perrault and in the novels of Emile Zola.

The United States has also experimented a lot with the human race. So, on May 20, 1862, the so-called Homestead Act was adopted there, granting land to all comers, and above all to the soldiers of the army of the North. Upon learning of this, a huge mass of people left Europe for America. Mostly enterprising, adventurous by nature. And by the way, it's very good that there weapon sold freely, so many of them or each other were simply shot in skirmishes in the saloons, or they were killed by the Indians.

Here the United States began to develop faster than all other states. And all because all the most active and enterprising people were drawn there like a magnet, while the tolerants, on the contrary, continued to sit in their national apartments.

However, let's turn again to Russia. The First World War, then the revolution, then the Civil War in the most tragic way changed both our society and its entire genetic component. "Purebred" representatives of noble families were either killed or emigrated. But those same patients who could “even eat with porridge, even churn butter” saw their chance in this, climbed up, and then it turned out what happened, for as much as 74 years.

People listened to beautiful words, but they did not understand what was happening around. Well, during the Great Patriotic War, again, the best among our male population died - the most responsible, most courageous, decisive and deeply decent. But it was just completely different who survived - careerists and opportunists, although, of course, not only they. But there were more of them than before, they passed on their genes to their children, those to theirs, and away we go!

Genetics of patriarchal relations...


By the way, the time has come to explain the absence of the genes of the Mongol-Tatar conquerors of Rus' in the blood of the Russian people - an example so often cited by individual "experts" in VO to confirm the alleged absence of the "yoke".

And it is not necessary to approach the life of the patriarchal society of that time with the standards of today. Then a woman who became a victim of violence from the side of the “nasty” (otherwise they were not called otherwise in Rus'!), who, in addition to everything else, “suffered”, was declared outlawed, and the best thing she could think of was to drown herself! It was also possible to “throw off the fruit”, although the stigma of “spoiled” remained on it. Well, if by some miracle a child was born, then ... outwardly, it was so much different from the Slavic type familiar to everyone that they didn’t even consider him a person, but they called him “a filthy offspring”, and ... for legs and about the corner of the hut. This is the end of all genes!

By the way, no matter how terrible it is to realize, but just like that - wars always kill two birds with one stone: political and economic tasks are solved and, in addition, human society also gets rid of potentially dangerous members of society. Preventing everyone else from living in peace.

And if so, then in the future this practice will undoubtedly be continued, although it is disguised by various “beautiful” words. Therefore, we should expect the emergence of not only new viruses, but also inspired movements of a messianic nature, the purpose of which is to gather under their banners "people restless, but evil."

Then, destructive ideas will be introduced into this movement so that force can be applied to them, with their subsequent total destruction. In fact, it will be a kind of ancient Greek "ostracism", but not at the social, but at the genetic level. That is, in the future, humanity will not allow people whose genes provoke people to antisocial behavior to multiply.

Find, nurture, and... destroy!


The example of ISIS (banned in the Russian Federation) in this case is very indicative. Why do they stand on ceremony with him for so long, do Russia and NATO really have no means to do away with him once and for all? And this is exactly what is not needed. We need a vacuum cleaner (or a magnet) that will attract all those whom official Islam gets in their throats in order to legally ... prevent them from multiplying!

And it will be so until... humanity can find a more humane and civilized way, how to "sell such people to the side." For example, they can be sent to colonize the Moon and Mars, study asteroids, and maybe even build someday a huge "star ark", gather them all together and send them to explore some suitable planet near Tau Ceti or Epsilon Eridani!
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  1. Doccor18
    Doccor18 21 January 2023 05: 14
    +18
    in outbreds - outbreds. Actually, this was known before, but now all this same thing was happening right before their eyes, that is, the landowners. And not only with horses and dogs, but also with people!

    Very reminiscent of eugenics...
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 21 January 2023 05: 30
      +9
      Quote: Doccor18
      Very reminiscent of eugenics..

      Yes. But no matter how one treats eugenics, there is a grain of truth in it. For example, in Central Asia it is still difficult to marry/marry children if there is at least one child with a deviation in the family. hi
    2. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 21 January 2023 10: 42
      +16
      It doesn't give away, it just stinks. Moreover, with a claim to "ultimate truth"))) and genetics is a complex science.
    3. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 21 January 2023 16: 01
      +26
      Quote: Doccor18
      Very reminiscent of eugenics...

      Very much gives to Shpakovsky:
      But those same patients who could “even eat with porridge, even churn butter” saw their chance in this, climbed up, and then it turned out what happened, for as much as 74 years.

      The result was the first socially oriented state, the second economy in the world, a breakthrough into space and the conquest of the atom, and almost immediately after the hardest war.
      And last but not least because:
      "Purebred" representatives of noble families were either killed or emigrated.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 21 January 2023 17: 39
        -9
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        It turned out the first socially oriented state

        Which merged the main principle of socialism - from each according to his ability, to each according to his work. As a result, for processing you received a one-time remuneration + increased standards. Therefore, having deprived the population of an incentive, the system, which planted many parasites around its neck - from the Soviet republics to the African-Middle Eastern kings, overstrained itself, and socialism is a toy of the rich. To date, it was built by the French, Swedes, partly Germans and Norgs.
        1. Senior seaman
          Senior seaman 21 January 2023 18: 20
          +8
          Quote: Krasnodar
          To date, it was built by the French, Swedes, partly Germans and Norgs.

          If at least 1/10 of what they write about the dominance of migrants is true, they follow our path...
          1. Plate
            Plate 21 January 2023 21: 21
            -1
            Yes, let's go ahead. They will collapse, just like we did, but we will come and rob them just as they robbed us.
        2. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U 22 January 2023 06: 08
          +10
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Which merged the main principle of socialism - from each according to his ability, to each according to his work. As a result, for processing you received a one-time remuneration + increased standards.

          What nonsense, a slight excess of the norms was always rewarded, but the norms were not raised at the same time. Do not lie.
          But the norms for reducing costs and, accordingly, increasing productivity were gradually increased, only WITHOUT REDUCING the wage fund.

          Quote: Krasnodar
          incentive, the system that planted many parasites around its neck - from the Soviet republics to the African-Middle Eastern kings, overstrained
          You kind of "forgot" another "parasite" in the form of social facilities at every enterprise, public and advanced medicine (whatever you write there) and education, which, by the way, is typical for people like you.
          Well, now there are no parasites, yeah - it doesn’t hurt your eyes straight, in the form of an abyss of outbids, budget cutters and rollback masters.

          Quote: Krasnodar
          and socialism is the plaything of the rich. To date, it was built by the French, Swedes, partly Germans and Norgs.
          Because they HAD to, looking at the USSR.
          And in order to merge something, you must first build it - a lot and with high quality, and even the bastard "capitalism" from the Russian Federation could not merge everything from the Soviet one, although he tried.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 22 January 2023 09: 59
            -6
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            What nonsense, a slight excess of the norms was always rewarded, but the norms were not raised at the same time. Do not lie.

            Awarded. The standards were raised. Talk about it with any director of the Soviet plant)).
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            But the norms for reducing costs and, accordingly, increasing

            Call it what you want - there was an increase in standards.
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            WITHOUT REDUCTION of the wage fund

            Yes, after the bonus and the increase in production standards, the base salary remained the same.
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            public and advanced medicine

            Medicine sucked compared to Western medicine. Exceptions are advanced traumatology by world standards and more or less norms of vascular surgery. Pharmaceuticals, oncology, diagnostics, gastrointestinal surgery - a lag of 15-20 years.
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            Education

            Fundamental technical - yes. Psychology, management, foreign languages ​​for graduates of non-linguistic universities - complete crap. Polytech is more or less in terms of basic subjects.
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            Well, now there are no parasites, yeah - it doesn’t hurt your eyes straight, in the form of an abyss of outbids, budget cutters and rollback masters.

            Yes, but the standard of living of the working people is much higher than the Soviet one.
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            Because they HAD to, looking at the USSR.

            Possibly, but they did it.
            1. Vladimir_2U
              Vladimir_2U 22 January 2023 12: 25
              +7
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Awarded. The standards were raised. Talk about it with any director of the Soviet plant)).
              Always rewarded! Norms were raised either as planned or as a result of a SHARP excess of the plan.
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Call it what you want - there was an increase in standards.
              Increasing productivity - reducing costs - reducing prices - improving living standards with the same payroll. That was the point. Bullshit in short, this is your whining about the norms.

              Quote: Krasnodar
              Medicine sucked compared to Western medicine. Exceptions are advanced traumatology by world standards and more or less norms of vascular surgery. Pharmaceuticals, oncology, diagnostics, gastrointestinal surgery - a lag of 15-20 years.
              Firstly, about 15-20 years of lies - and impudent, and secondly - are there advanced countries in all areas, and even with mass accessibility? There are no such.

              Quote: Krasnodar
              Fundamental technical - yes. Psychology, management, foreign languages ​​for graduates of non-linguistic universities - complete crap. Polytech is more or less in terms of basic subjects.
              What kind of managers are being cooked up now, what is here, what is abroad - you can see it ... Foreign for non-core - this is a claim lol ... I wonder how, for example, Russian / Chinese is taught to physicists at MIT. laughing

              Quote: Krasnodar
              Yes, but the standard of living of the working people is much higher than the Soviet one.
              Only due to the cheapness of imported consumer goods and the failure in education / health care, and I'm afraid that the army. Oh yes, Soviet gas, oil and weapons.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 23 January 2023 09: 25
                -5
                Yes, MRI was massive in the 1970s, CT in the 1980s, in Russia massively after the fall of the USSR, etc.
                In short - all this is a conversation about nothing. The younger generation will not want to go to the Scoop, thank God.
                1. Vladimir_2U
                  Vladimir_2U 23 January 2023 15: 08
                  +6
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  Yes, MRI was massive in the 1970s, CT in the 1980s, in Russia massively after the fall of the USSR, etc.

                  They confused MRI with CT.
                  But in the case of MRI, it’s a lie - two years after the start of production in Germany (1982-83), they already launched the production of domestic MRI stations.
                  And with CT, half-lies - COMPUTED tomography installations without computers are meaningless, and they were not supplied according to KoKOM restrictions. Their computers were little suited to this task, but as soon as they launched the production of copied processors, they began purchasing CTs in 77, and then production.
                  In general, lies and half-truths from you.

                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  In short - all this is a conversation about nothing. The younger generation will not want to go to the Scoop, thank God.
                  And maybe he wants to, but only he is not there, unfortunately. But not everyone wants to go to Israel either.
            2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
              Andrei from Chelyabinsk 22 January 2023 16: 09
              +8
              Quote: Krasnodar

              Awarded. The standards were raised. Talk about it with any director of the Soviet plant)).

              There was no such thing. Norms in the USSR did not depend on the successes of the Stakhanov movement. Yes, if the norm was systematically overfulfilled by the average worker, it could be increased after appropriate measurements (photograph of working hours, etc.). But it was still a process, and in general, the norms and standards of the USSR - whatever, but not overpriced
              1. Vladimir_2U
                Vladimir_2U 22 January 2023 18: 07
                +1
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                Norms in the USSR did not depend on the successes of the Stakhanov movement.
                Even as they depended, only the connection is not direct, but through propaganda in the form of fame and awards - with the subsequent transfer of experience and the taking of an ordinary worker "weakly".
  2. Guran33 Sergey
    Guran33 Sergey 21 January 2023 05: 16
    +4
    Drebeden! The army is marching across the conquered territory and massively leaving behind offspring, the quality of the female body, when raped, almost seventy to eighty percent pregnancy .. The Poles have reached Moscow, even now it’s hard to distinguish us by genetics. The invasion of 12 years also left its mark, though blurry, everything after all, the invasion of twelve peoples, the Okraintsy of 43 years of birth called themselves "Germans". But the horde practically (except for the boyar clans) left no traces, men and women of childbearing age knocked out in battles and taken into slavery, yasak and boyar requisitions staged three four hungry years (until a new generation of workers grew up) and the children of violence stopped feeding here and the Orthodox priests noted with their condemnation of the victims
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 21 January 2023 05: 32
      +10
      Quote: Guran33 Sergey
      The Poles reached Moscow - even now it’s hard to distinguish us by genetics

      You ask in what century the Poles ceased to consider themselves Russian. wink Even Sienkiewicz in the book "Fire and Sword" has a moment when a Polish nobleman calls himself Russian.
      1. Guran33 Sergey
        Guran33 Sergey 21 January 2023 06: 40
        +4
        I am writing about us and not about the Poles, on whom the Russian armies also trampled well, and this article is oak, but about the landowners, if "daddy" supported (with money, food, easy work, it doesn't matter) his passion for up to five years, so a healthy organism grew . Against the background of the fact that closely related ties arose in small communities, especially since in the Russian hinterland (except for provincial cities) there was neither their own army nor someone else's dragging
    2. Trilobite Master
      Trilobite Master 21 January 2023 09: 50
      +5
      Quote: Guran33 Sergey
      An army marches across the conquered territory and en masse leaves behind offspring, the quality of the female body - with rape, almost seventy to eighty percent pregnancy

      What nonsense ...
      I will give only one argument. Are there natives in the conquered territory? All, as one, impotent? Or infertile? Or do girls and women no longer give their men?
      Before the widespread use of contraceptives, any woman who could become pregnant was usually pregnant. In order for a woman to conceive a child, it was necessary to guess such a moment that her body was ready for conception and at the same time that her husband had not yet had time to take advantage of it. smile
      So, the army can leave its genetic mark only if it stops in the conquered territories and spends a sufficiently long time there, roughly speaking, settles down.
      1. Senior seaman
        Senior seaman 21 January 2023 13: 07
        +6
        Quote: Trilobite Master
        So, the army can leave its genetic mark only if it stops in the conquered territories and spends a sufficiently long time there, roughly speaking, settles down.

        There are enough examples in the garrison camps that children look like gentlemen officers!
        Kuzma Prutkov.
        1. boni592807
          boni592807 21 January 2023 21: 45
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          Senior sailor (Ivan Ochenkov). Today, 13:07 - "... There are enough examples in the garrison camps that children look like gentlemen officers!..." Kuzma Prutkov.


          In the distant "difficult years of stagnation" I came across an article comparing actions belay for example, "dog-knights" of the film "Alexander Nevsky" with absolute sadism destroying "heretics - Orthodox" without exception anda subtle way of "development" of the territory in ancient times by China. wink ALL males were destroyed there (some "sin against the Golden Horde" were left there if the boy was tall on the axle of a cart wheel). And Gavnison 1 was left - a maximum of 2 va generations and only "ours" were around - bully
          But back to reality feel . How many male population from indigenous Russians "left" in the 90s from hopelessness. drunkenness. drugs. shooting at the brothers and 2 Chechen wars!?
          Then poper "peace" and the number of "leaving NATURALLY" has not changed much belay . BUT ... but ... A massive "construction BOOM" and "development" of the markets once "inhabited by indigenous Russians" began. And as the classic teaches, whoever has food and money, and offspring inhabit "empty" territories ... hi
          And with the guests "successfully" pulled the guest "market" drugs.hard crimes. buying up and redistribution is no longer small business and real estate. terrorism (see reports and conclusions of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB of the Russian Federation). Just raped indigenous women and cut (killed) indigenous Russians "hard-working and knowledgeable SECRET of conducting business in the Russian Federation" as guest workers. businessmen and just illegal immigrants ALREADY will not surprise anyone. No. As an incentive prize, they have a law on diasporas. "gift" of citizenship for the birth of their child in the Russian Federation with about all then compared the figures of the so-called. working and reproductive often native Russians and guest importers (they are mostly from 14 to 45 years old. Now families are imported en masse) and for "pranks" most often administrative staff. And already seven with a minimum of 3 "Novorossiyan". and what about the Russian budget "disappear" And what about in maternity hospitals? What's in the schools? On and the streets rejoice. drivers incl. urban transport. And if the departation is so at the expense of the Russian Federation. bully
          QUESTION. maybe RF. in 10 years to prove how it was before the 2000s. that there are no "traces" of the so-called "traces" in genetics Mongol-Tatar invasion. Doubtful. crying
          Вgo again to defend the country NECESSARY. NECESSARY - there is NO other way out !!! This is clearly not a joke. "pariners" clearly EXPLAINED. bully And who are the defenders - native Russians. And who is at home? In public transport (taxi). in stores (already often own). in their cafes with GREAT POTENTIAL and with money, and again "forgive and accept" ... Yes, the "guests" "checked in" a little in Belgorod ... and everything is as always ... (V.S. Chernomyrdin)
          For a general idea - "Tsargrad" to help ...
          feel Someone compared from those who are engaged in demography. the number of guest arrivals with the number of reproductive natives and they are almost EQUAL. Not true interesting to the topic under discussion and the future in the Russian Federation?
          And someone about EUGENICS bully . She is already in RI. THE USSR. The RF is fully operational. But it is interesting mainly in certain territories (although everyone is happy) and with a CERTAIN (indigenous) population - 1 MB. Civil War. WWII ("MV") since the late 80s and more ... and even now ...!?
          1. Senior seaman
            Senior seaman 22 January 2023 10: 52
            +6
            If you think that capslock and playing with the font makes this stream of consciousness even a little more convincing, then you are mistaken!
      2. Guran33 Sergey
        Guran33 Sergey Yesterday, 11: 39
        0
        Again, soft with sour .. Men in the army, women at home .. You mean some kind of spherical war in a vacuum .. any military confrontation - time and in the Middle Ages and now it is from 3 months to a year aggressive military operations and then "development "occupied territory.
  3. ee2100
    ee2100 21 January 2023 05: 21
    +16
    The meaning of the article is clear - specially trained people will soon receive compasses and will use the head measurement method to determine what a person is good for.
    Who is in the "expenditure", and who is worthy of being an electorate.
    Well, not with a compass, but considering sets of "genes".
    This fascist theory is promoted by a former communist?!
    And further. About the so-called. Mongolian yoke.
    “It was possible to “throw off the fetus” ... Well, if the child was already born by some miracle, then ... outwardly, it was so different from the Slavic type familiar to everyone that they didn’t even consider him a person , and so they called it - "filthy offspring", and ... by the legs and about the corner of the hut. That's the end of all genes! "(c)
    Maybe the author will provide links to documents about mass infanticide in Rus' during the yoke?
    As he claims that there are 5000 volumes.
    He said nothing about the "bottleneck" today - he realized that he had bounced nonsense. laughing
    1. Luminman
      Luminman 21 January 2023 05: 53
      +3
      Quote: ee2100
      specially trained people will soon receive compasses and will use the head measurement method to determine what a person is good for

      In the age of development of biochemistry, compasses are not needed. For this, there are biolaboratories that give results much more accurately than compasses ...
    2. Korsar4
      Korsar4 21 January 2023 07: 44
      +1
      The question is very serious. As I understand it, it is not easy to assess how much heredity affects, and how much the environment. But the arguments are not strong. And the approach, to be honest, is frivolous.

      I don't even know how I would write such an article. The example with Mowgli children is a classic.

      So what is next? About the degeneration and refinement of the nobility? But there were definitely deviations from the main line. Both blood and instincts work.
    3. kalibr
      21 January 2023 09: 09
      -4
      Quote: ee2100
      Maybe the author will provide links to documents about mass infanticide in Rus' during the yoke?

      The life of "Ivan" (Semenova-Tyan-Shanskaya) The author is the daughter of Academician Semyon Tien-Shansky. It's not about killings per se. But what is described there is not much different from them. And about 5000, read the collections of publications of the Russian Academy of Sciences. There are also dissertations visited on this topic. If you know how to use a computer - see for yourself. It is interesting. And by the way, where are your new articles? Has the scribe gone?
      1. ee2100
        ee2100 21 January 2023 09: 37
        +11
        "Where are your new articles? Has the pen written out?" (C)
        There is no desire to write for this resource, but to show off here just right. laughing
        I can offer other theories of the absence of the Mongolian gene in Europe after the so-called. yoke.
        1. The Mongols sent 50000 fighting pederasts to conquer Europe.
        2. The Mongols sent 50000 zoophiles to conquer Europe, 1 fighting horse, the second for luggage, and the third favorite - to satisfy carnal pleasures.
        Here is the explanation for the absence of the Mongolian gene.
        And then head on the corner of the house. Ugh!
        Take use.
        1. Trilobite Master
          Trilobite Master 21 January 2023 10: 05
          +4
          Greetings, Alexander.
          Regarding the absence of the Mongolian genetic trace, it has already been said more than once why and why. The only way to leave such a mark is to settle among the vanquished and nothing else.
          The Mongols have come and gone. On the territory of Rus', they were only during the period of raids, that is, for two to three months, on average, once every ten to twenty years. Even if they were not doing anything else at that time (and, in fact, they had a lot of things to do), but only walking Russian women, how many sexual acts could they perform uphill? And how many such acts were committed by Russian men with their wives for the rest of the time, while there were no Mongols?
          Further: the Mongols were very kind to their blood. They considered themselves - steppe batyrs - the salt of the earth. Therefore, the women of the conquered peoples, with whom they copulated, they simply killed after copulation, so that she would not inadvertently suffer from the Mongol and give birth to a batyr in her house, who would then be able to challenge her father's tribe. There is evidence of this custom in the sources.
          And, finally, the Mongols could not leave any noticeable trace in the Russian gene pool, simply because at the time of the first invasion of Rus', no more than five to ten thousand Mongols themselves took part (the rest of the soldiers were from conquered peoples), and later them, genetic Mongols, there were even fewer.
          If, taking into account all these points, we calculate the probability of conceiving a Mongolian child in Rus', the figure will turn out to be simply insignificant.
          1. ee2100
            ee2100 21 January 2023 10: 37
            +7
            Hi Michael!
            There is no point in arguing here. Sometime later, at a face-to-face meeting.
            To the previous article by Shpakovsky, I published a distribution map of the haplogroup C3 (Mongolian), now there is no technical possibility to repeat it, but you can find it if you wish.
            The border of the distribution of the haplogroup reaches the northern Caspian Sea, and then in a narrow strip and that's it.
            And this card is not Klesov.
            It turns out that somewhere the raped were killed, but somewhere not?!
            It does not happen.
            Gotta run. Good luck! drinks hi
            1. Trilobite Master
              Trilobite Master 21 January 2023 11: 24
              +2
              The Northern Caspian is, of course, Kazakhs and Kalmyks. smile The Kalmyks came there during the time of Ivan the Terrible. These migrations have nothing to do with the Mongol conquest, it was they who later spread to the west.
              Quote: ee2100
              It does not happen.

              They killed everywhere, even in their own steppes. Actually, this is where it started. And this "Mongolian gene" appears where the Mongols "settled", if one can speak of a nomadic people. And they settled in the steppes, where they felt most comfortable - this is very clearly visible in the area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbthe distribution of their haplogroup. But Rus' is not the Steppe, so they did not stay in Rus' and, accordingly, did not leave a trace.
              1. ee2100
                ee2100 21 January 2023 12: 13
                +7
                Michael, explain why, after sexual intercourse, kill live goods?
                It's not logical. belay
                A woman can be sold, exchanged.
                You write about the steppes, where the Mongols are spacious and at ease. But how do you explain their presence of their haplogroup in Eastern and Western Siberia and in the territory of modern Western Canada, mainly.
                Is it free and familiar there in the forests too?
                1. Trilobite Master
                  Trilobite Master 21 January 2023 13: 25
                  0
                  Quote: ee2100
                  A woman can be sold, exchanged

                  To do this, it must be taken somewhere. It is impossible to do this at her place of residence. Women who were taken away often became mothers, but their children were already brought up in a Mongol or Tatar-speaking environment, therefore they became, respectively, Mongols or Tatars. If it turned out that a woman intended for sale to other lands became pregnant from a Mongol, she was sold only after giving birth. The child was left and brought up by themselves.
                  A normal logical system based on the postulate of the value of one's own blood.
                  As for those carriers of "Mongolian" haplogroups that live in the taiga, this is not a consequence of the conquests of the Mongol Empire, but simply a consistent and gradual penetration of carriers of the corresponding gene into neighboring regions, which lasted more than one hundred years.
          2. Senior seaman
            Senior seaman 21 January 2023 13: 13
            +11
            I once wrote, however, on another resource, that a very long chain of coincidences is needed to leave a genetic trace.
            A woman must first be captured, then she must be raped, then she must fly in, then run away, not to lose a child while carrying in rather extreme conditions, and then this child must survive first during childbirth, and then in the first years of life, which in those days didn't happen often. Even among the ruling class, often and densely from a dozen children to adulthood lived well if three.
            1. Trilobite Master
              Trilobite Master 21 January 2023 13: 57
              +2
              You can come up with other chains, but this will not change the essence of the matter. In order for changes to occur in the gene pool of one or another population, a long and constant contact with representatives of another population is required, therefore an army on a campaign (raid) does not leave genetic traces and does not affect the gene pool of the defeated population.
              The Mongols did not live in Rus', coming to it exclusively by raids.
        2. kalibr
          21 January 2023 11: 56
          -1
          Quote: ee2100
          and show off here just right.

          Well !
        3. Eule
          Eule 23 January 2023 21: 07
          0
          Quote: ee2100
          and other theories about the absence of the Mongolian gene in Europe

          According to Yasa of Genghis Khan, "whoever asks for more than one-tenth of his income in taxes, he will be killed."
          Princes. or rather, their collectors of requisitions, took away half or as much as they could. Here is the answer.
          The answer about why Russian men signed up for the "Mongolian" army
          The answer is that there was no partisan struggle.
          And the rise of the United States before 1914 is also due primarily to the absence of federal taxes.
    4. Alemax
      Alemax 21 January 2023 11: 41
      +6
      The meaning of the article is clear - specially trained people will soon receive compasses and will use the head measurement method to determine what a person is good for.

      I myself got a little crazy after reading this pseudoscientific nonsense. Something, perhaps, in the article is a fact, but it is certainly turned upside down. Regarding the lack of horde genes, I would recommend the author to look in the mirror with unshaven hair for about 7-10 days. A Mongolian beard will come out a hundred pounds.
      1. haron
        haron 22 January 2023 16: 32
        +3
        Quote from Alex
        Something, perhaps, in the article is a fact, but it is certainly turned upside down.

        Yes, there are facts. The author is a bit unfamiliar with medicine.
        Diagnosis of ADHD. At this moment, it is Hyperactivity that can be considered the quality of those people whom the author "sent to the soldiers."
        Specific genetic markers have been found for ADHD. This condition is "lifelong" if it was diagnosed in childhood, then in 70% it will remain in adulthood. 30% suppress him as a retrained left-hander to right-hander.
        ADHD has been associated with increased creativity, impulsivity, aggressiveness, open-mindedness.... a lot of things that are out of the ordinary.
        Most of all, genetic markers of ADHD are expressed in the white race, about 30% of the adult population. The ratio between hollow 3 in men is 1 in women.
        There is a theory that carriers of hyperactivity belong to hunters and partly cattle breeders. "Normal" people are farmers.
        The division happened as a result of natural selection about 7-8 thousand years ago.
        ADHD is inherent in migratory groups, sedentary societies are "normal".

        To remove these people from society means dooming this society to conservation.
        Now the main problem in ADHD medicine is to correctly determine the interest of a person with ADHD and not to treat him with stimulants. But given the number of "patients", psychiatrists and psychologists have a performance of no more than 10% of a hundred.

        And the most interesting moment. ADHD involves the presence of several markers in one person (at least three). In this case, the same markers can be in "normal" one or two. Every normal person has one or two out of three. That is, one normal couple can have three genes transferred to the child. What this means does not need to be explained.
    5. sadam2
      sadam2 22 January 2023 19: 36
      0
      and here again I imagined an advertisement for Prigozhin's))) "restless people, but evil." how to get rid of 800 thousand convicts
  4. Doccor18
    Doccor18 21 January 2023 05: 21
    +19

    In any case, the average height of the French leveled off quickly.

    And this was done in 23 million France by 4-40 thousand deserters? Aye well done! Here they could..!
    1. Eule
      Eule 23 January 2023 21: 11
      +1
      Quote: Doccor18
      what did 23-4 thousand deserters do in 40 million France? Aye well done!

      The average height depends on nutrition in childhood, as the famine years ended or some other problems, the average height immediately increased. Recently, a comrade wrote on this topic that the daughter, taken from Kazakhstan to Munich at her 13 years old, is now 160 cm tall, and the son born there is 186. Grandchildren are also tall and strong, but great-granddaughters are still children and it’s hard to say something about height .
  5. Nikolay Malyugin
    Nikolay Malyugin 21 January 2023 06: 00
    +7
    Dividing people by skin color, by the size of the skull, by its height is the lot of the Nazi theory. This is different. To prevent people who have fallen "from dirt and princes." And for this you need a genetic code. This distribution will have an impact in the future. After all, our science and culture were determined by people from completely different preferences.
  6. ivan2022
    ivan2022 21 January 2023 06: 02
    +16
    In Russia, "pedigreed representatives of the nation" - the nobles first plundered their country, living beyond their means, then overthrew their own Emperor from the throne (which the bourgeoisie did in other countries), and then they dumped them to the West - to improve the local breed. That's what it is.....

    You might think that now the West has greatly ennobled the Russian White Guards .....

    By the way, if we assume that the landowners, having unlimited power, sent the most energetic to serve in the army and did not find any use for them at home, what can be said about their own mental abilities?

    Were you afraid of intellectual competition from men? Or maybe the landlords were freed from the rabble that was not suitable for work, fusing it to the service? ..... This is only from the point of view of Shpakovsky in order to work - no mind is needed.

    It is useful to recall the well-known experiment with "mouse Paradise", which led to the disappearance of the population ... It clearly indicates how the "free and comfortable" lifestyle affects the abilities.

    It is also useful to re-read the classics: .. "Eugene Onegin", whose lineage has practically ceased, along with "Woe from Wit". How does it say? "He will come out of the fire unharmed, whoever manages to stay with you for a day, breathes the air alone and his mind will survive."

    Yes, and our current, well, very restless elite - somehow did not demonstrate high abilities when faced with the Western one.
  7. andrewkor
    andrewkor 21 January 2023 06: 03
    +8
    Much has been said about ISIS! I remember this office was created by Iraqi officers expelled from the army after the overthrow and assassination of Sadami Hussein.
  8. 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 21 January 2023 06: 21
    +3
    they can be sent to colonize the moon
    Yes, yes, Heinlein has already sent, the Earth, later, did not seem enough.
  9. 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 21 January 2023 06: 44
    +5
    in any case, the type of a real Frenchwoman - that is, with white skin, blue eyes and golden hair - remained only where? In the fairy tales of Charles Perrault and in the novels of Emile Zola.
    Light-skinned and fair-haired is a recessive trait of the human genome of the Caucasoid type, characteristic of closed ethnic groups.
    1. Korsar4
      Korsar4 21 January 2023 07: 46
      0
      Pierre Richard's companion in "The Prick with an Umbrella" did not do without paint. It's a pity.
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 21 January 2023 14: 19
        +3
        Pierre Richard's companion in "The Prick with an Umbrella" did not do without paint. It's a pity.


        I don't remember what it looked like. laughing

        1. Korsar4
          Korsar4 21 January 2023 16: 03
          +3
          Kitty! I have long wanted to ask you as an artist of an artist: Do you know how to draw?
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 21 January 2023 16: 35
            +3
            Painters, dip your brushes
            in the bustle of the arbat yard and in the dawn,
            that your brushes are like leaves.
            Like leaves,
            like leaves to November.
            1. Korsar4
              Korsar4 21 January 2023 23: 15
              0
              I forgot when I was at home
              confused nights and dawns.
              It's a whirlpool
              this is a whirlpool -
              Indian summer,
              Indian summer.
  10. Li17
    Li17 21 January 2023 06: 52
    +3
    What is there in this. But it is not said that a large family is needed for genetic selection, this is, firstly, and a system of education based on spiritual values, secondly! An example of this is the nobility, the destruction of which as a class began from the moment of free life. Because of this, we have already genetically degenerated, the male population has been destroyed, male duties at school and in life have been abolished (the famous abolition of military service ...) and, in addition, a large-caliber salvo on the basics of the spiritual, the virus of Western muck from which was not timely vaccine applied!
  11. tatra
    tatra 21 January 2023 07: 16
    +18
    The First World War, then the revolution, then the Civil War in the most tragic way changed both our society and its entire genetic component.

    The enemies of the USSR have servile admiration for the rich and noble. For them, if a person was born in a rich and noble family - it doesn’t matter if he is smart, or healthy or sick - like the son of Nicholas II - for them he is a priori "the gene pool and color of the nation". After the capture of the USSR, because of inadequately inflated self-esteem, they seriously imagined themselves "chosen" in comparison with the people, "the best, most hardworking", and also "the gene pool and the color of the nation." And they are contemptuous of the Soviet people, due to the results of whose work they parasitize all 30 years after the capture of the USSR.
    1. kalibr
      21 January 2023 09: 13
      -6
      Quote: tatra
      And they are contemptuous of the Soviet people, due to the results of whose work they parasitize all 30 years after the capture of the USSR

      Previously, people plowed on oxen, now there are no oxen, tractors. Therefore, plow on people. Why not, if they allow?
  12. Kuziming
    Kuziming 21 January 2023 07: 17
    +1
    About the blue-eyed French. In the battle against Attila in the Catalaunian fields, the center of the Roman army was held by the Alans. According to the prominent scholar Vasily Abaev, the Sarmatian cavalry, recruited by the Romans to control Gaul, marked the beginning of the European tradition of chivalry. He drew attention to the similarity of the legends of the Nart epic with the cycle of legends about King Arthur.
    1. setter
      setter 21 January 2023 11: 41
      +2
      According to the prominent scholar Vasily Abaev, the Sarmatian cavalry, recruited by the Romans to control Gaul, marked the beginning of the European tradition of chivalry. He drew attention to the similarity of the legends of the Nart epic with the cycle of legends about King Arthur.

      Vasily Ivanovich Abaev was a serious scientist and could not write such nonsense. Taking into account the fact that he was a philologist, he could write that "the basis of the Arthurian legends are the Celtic epic legends" and the Sarmatians could be the basis for these legends. Moreover, this is not an unambiguous statement, but one of the hypotheses.
      1. setter
        setter 21 January 2023 16: 15
        -2
        The number of minuses under the comment clearly illustrates both the degradation of the audience of the "History" section and publications.
        Previously, a solid audience gathered under Shpakovsky's articles, serious discussions developed, during which one could really expand one's horizons, "grow above oneself." All sorts of intellectual outcasts sat quietly in the corners.
        Today, all this is a thing of the past, unfortunately. I'm wondering, have the lumpen poking at minus ever heard of the philologist Abaev in their lives?
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 21 January 2023 16: 33
          +7
          I'm wondering, have the lumpen poking at minus ever heard of the philologist Abaev in their lives?
          I think you asked a similar question not too long ago...
        2. Fat
          Fat 21 January 2023 16: 54
          +10
          Quote from Passeur
          a solid audience gathered, serious discussions developed, during which one could really expand one's horizons, "grow above oneself." All sorts of intellectual outcasts sat quietly in the corners

          hi This article is pure trolling, so it's pointless to expect a highly intelligent discussion about the "content" presented.
          Sociotechnical experiment in a cynical form. Sailboat (Alexey Bogomazov) is right - place this article in the "opinions" section ...
          Why are you suddenly "wound up"? request Well, Vyacheslav Olegovich did not please this time with "bright" content, why be upset ...
          Nerves need to be healed sometimes drinks Or go fishing smile
          1. setter
            setter 21 January 2023 20: 41
            +2
            Or go fishing

            Great advice! Come, let's go together. I guarantee you have never seen such fishing in your life. Get an unforgettable experience!
        3. Senior seaman
          Senior seaman 21 January 2023 18: 25
          +4
          Quote from Passeur
          Previously, a solid audience gathered under Shpakovsky's articles, serious discussions developed, during which one could really expand one's horizons, "grow above oneself"

          even with the same author - an article article is different ... request
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  13. Kuziming
    Kuziming 21 January 2023 07: 26
    +5
    In general, I believe this article was written under the influence of the practical application of PMCs.
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 21 January 2023 12: 15
      +6
      this article was written under the influence of the practical application of PMCs.
      Most likely THC wassat .
  14. Luminman
    Luminman 21 January 2023 07: 32
    +4
    the type of a real Frenchwoman - that is, with white skin, blue eyes and golden hair - remained only where? In the fairy tales of Charles Perrault and in the novels of Emile Zola

    When Perrault wrote his fairy tales, and Zola's novels, there were no Arabs or Negroes in France. And the French themselves are the heirs of the Franks, Alemans, Swabians, Burgundians, etc. And these are all the Germans who came from the north of Europe. Another part of the French are Gauls, with red hair and bright eyes ...
  15. Eug
    Eug 21 January 2023 07: 39
    +5
    Wars lead to the death, first of all, of the most passionate and active members of society - a kind of "descent of social steam" in society. This is when they don’t want “social elevators” to work in society .... who benefits and needs it - decide for yourself ....
  16. nepunamemuk
    nepunamemuk 21 January 2023 07: 49
    +3
    in order to send Mars to colonize the Moon, etc., "terpils" must build rockets
    and they have no "porridge" laughing
    1. ee2100
      ee2100 21 January 2023 08: 27
      +7
      "terpily" - a new historical term?!
      Shpakovsky enriched world history bully
  17. parusnik
    parusnik 21 January 2023 08: 07
    +13
    This article, place under the heading "Opinions" and not under the heading "History".
  18. 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 21 January 2023 08: 23
    +3
    sent to explore some suitable planet near Tau Whales
    "And moving along the light beam,
    Without help, but through,
    I'm flying to this Tau Whale,
    To deal with her on the spot "(C)
    1. ee2100
      ee2100 21 January 2023 09: 03
      +1
      Hello Anton!
      "On Tau Kit
      The conditions are not
      And we don't need to go there.
      drinks
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 21 January 2023 09: 28
        +1
        "And in Leningrad it flowed from the roof,
        And why should I not fly to Leningrad?
        Everything is clear in Tbilisi, it's warm there,
        Tea grows there, but I don’t need to go there "(c)
        Hi Sasha!
    2. Korsar4
      Korsar4 21 January 2023 09: 11
      +1
      “No, this is not a hospital, I ended up somewhere else,” the dog thought in dismay and leaned on the carpet pattern near the heavy leather sofa, “and we will explain this owl ...”
    3. Trilobite Master
      Trilobite Master 21 January 2023 10: 09
      +2
      Tau Ceti is just a star in the constellation Cetus. Alpha Centauri, Beta Perseus, Gamma Orion, Tau Ceti. Doesn't lean. smile
      How our esteemed Vyacheslav Olegovich could blurt out such a thing, I don’t know. But it's funny.
      1. Fat
        Fat 21 January 2023 13: 01
        +4
        Quote: Trilobite Master
        Tau Ceti is just a star in the constellation Cetus. Alpha Centauri, Beta Perseus, Gamma Orion, Tau Ceti. Doesn't lean. smile
        How our esteemed Vyacheslav Olegovich could blurt out such a thing, I don’t know. But it's funny.

        hi Greetings, Michael. But he could!
        It is obvious that this was done on purpose, for "more doubtfulness" in order to strengthen the provocative component of the content of the article ("holivarity") ...
        Hence the "terpils" smile
    4. Catfish
      Catfish 21 January 2023 13: 59
      +3
      So, the army can leave its genetic mark only if it stops in the conquered territories and spends a sufficiently long time there, roughly speaking, settles down.

      I'm flying to this Tau Whale,
      To deal with her on the spot"

      This is unlikely to work. laughing
      I grabbed the taukitanka by the breast:
      "Well, - I say, - confess! .."

      She told me: "Go away!" - He speaks,
      Like, we are ahead -
      We don't want to know with men
      And now we will be budding!

  19. Nikolay293
    Nikolay293 21 January 2023 08: 37
    +9
    It is not quite rightly said, firstly, a person learns and develops, and secondly, it all depends on the circumstances. As in a joke: a man found a lamp with genie, called, and makes a wish for him - I want to become a hero! And he was left alone, with a grenade, against 3 tanks)
    1. Adrey
      Adrey 21 January 2023 12: 56
      +4
      Quote: Nikolay293
      And he was left alone, with a grenade, against 3 tanks)

      In the original, with two grenades against three tanks laughing hi
  20. Million
    Million 21 January 2023 08: 38
    +11
    Shpakovsky again suffered to write nonsense.
    1. kalibr
      21 January 2023 09: 16
      -2
      Quote: Million
      Shpakovsky again suffered to write nonsense.

      And you read them! And who is dumber? The one who writes or the one who reads?
  21. Maks1995
    Maks1995 21 January 2023 08: 57
    +8
    Partially true.
    And about the "houses of affectionate girls" in the estates of the nobles.
    And about the lack of brave people at the present time.

    While you are reading - there is a strike over the hill, there are re-elections over the hill, a telescope was launched there, a collider was completed there, there is the 10th return of the 1st stage of the rocket .....
    ... we have "stability". The population is declining, AIDS and Corona are growing, the authorities are quietly violating the promises "there will be no attack, there will be no mobilization", price increases, irresponsibility .... and nothing. No protest, no social elevators. One negative selection.

    Recall Butova, Amer's swindler, instantly dragged by a steam locomotive into the DUMA.
    Will build "justice and legality"?
  22. Illanatol
    Illanatol 21 January 2023 09: 07
    +9
    But in the villages the most slow-witted and stupid men remained, so progress in the Russian countryside went at such a snail's pace.


    The author, are you aware that there were a minority of serfs among the peasants?
    Most were free and lived in communities.
    Progress in the Russian countryside was slow, not at all because of the stupidity of the peasants.

    And was he really wrong, it is very difficult to say, in any case, the type of a real Frenchwoman - that is, with white skin, blue eyes and golden hair - remained only where? In the fairy tales of Charles Perrault and in the novels of Emile Zola.


    Real French women in the Middle Ages were dark-haired ugly women. Blue-eyed blondes were rare even then, they were mostly among the aristocracy (which differed ethnically from the common people).

    By the way, the time has come to explain the absence of the genes of the Mongol-Tatar conquerors of Rus' in the blood of the Russian people - an example so often cited by individual "experts" in VO to confirm the alleged absence of the "yoke".

    And it is not necessary to approach the life of the patriarchal society of that time with the standards of today. Then a woman who became a victim of violence from the side of the “nasty” (otherwise they were not called otherwise in Rus'!), who, in addition to everything else, “suffered”, was declared outlawed, and the best thing she could think of was to drown herself! It was also possible to “throw off the fruit”, although the stigma of “spoiled” remained on it. Well, if by some miracle a child was born, then ... outwardly, it was so much different from the Slavic type familiar to everyone that they didn’t even consider him a person, but they called him “a filthy offspring”, and ... for legs and about the corner of the hut. This is the end of all genes!


    Well, game!
    1. Are you aware that the "familiar Slavic type" even before 1237 was not so typical? Even among princes. Have you seen the reconstruction of the appearance of Alexander Nevsky according to the Gerasimov method? It is not at all like the "usual Slavic type" created in the film of the same name. Typical Batu Khan, yeah. Why be surprised if Polovtsian (Turkic blood) also flowed in Alexander's veins. And Prince Igor, who went against the Polovtsy with his regiment, was himself half a Polovtsy. Why didn’t anyone write them down in the “filthy offspring” and kill them, huh?
    Well, if the princes were not in the bastard with foreigners, who would condemn the peasants?

    2. Beginning with the reign of the Moscow prince Simeon the Proud, the "Tatar" aristocrats with their retinues began to go to the service of the Russians. They converted to Christianity, got married, became nobles. Up to 20% (maybe more) of the Russian nobility in the Russian Empire were of "Tatar origin. The historian Karamzin himself came from some kind of Kara-Murza. And no one reproached such "Tatar" nobles for the "non-Slavic type." Since the nobles, as expected aristocrats, massively bred bastards, and not all of them perished in the fire of the Revolution and "mass repressions", then the "Tatar" trace in the gene pool should be present at the present time. Actually, it is, but it has nothing to do with the Mongols.

    P.S. Do not confuse the concepts of "malice" and "aggressiveness". Not synonyms. Especially if the latter is coupled with passionarity. Passionate people, oh, how necessary and useful. Even the authorities have to admit this, although it is not pleasant. A society dominated by weak-willed hamsters will not last long.
    1. Trilobite Master
      Trilobite Master 21 January 2023 11: 12
      0
      Quote: Illanatol
      Well, game!

      You read your comments and the truth, nothing else comes to mind ...
      Quote: Illanatol
      serfs among the peasants were a minority

      More than one in three. This is taking into account the annexed Baltic states and Finland, as well as Poland, where there were no serfs. In some regions of Russia there were more than two thirds of them.
      Quote: Illanatol
      Real French women in the Middle Ages were dark-haired ugly girls

      Oh my God, where is this from? wassat Have you tried them all there? If not, I recommend looking at medieval miniatures with images of peasant women - there are not so many of them. The people were different. In Normandy, Brittany, Aquitaine, Ile-de-France and other central regions, including Paris, light types really prevailed, in the south - in Provence, Languedoc, the people were darker.
      Quote: Illanatol
      saw the reconstruction of the appearance of Alexander Nevsky

      I haven't seen it, but I really want to see it. Where can it be done?
      Quote: Illanatol
      Polovtsian (Turkic blood) also flowed in Alexander's veins

      Yes, his maternal grandmother was Polovtsian. But only. We have not the slightest idea of ​​his appearance, except that he was, perhaps, above average height. Everything.
      Quote: Illanatol
      Prince Igor

      Mother - Novgorod hawthorn, grandmother - German, great-grandmother - Scandinavian. Where are the Polovtsy?
      Quote: Illanatol
      Well, if the princes were not in the bastard with foreigners to be related

      Marriage between representatives of families of sovereign nobles is one thing. Violence during a military campaign is something else, don't you think?
      Regarding the Mongolian genes, I explained above why they simply had nowhere to come from. The Mongols were also a minority during the invasion period, no more than a quarter, the rest were conquered peoples, and then it only became smaller.
      Quote: Illanatol
      A society dominated by weak-willed hamsters will not last long.

      Any existing society is dominated by, as you say, "hamsters". Here, a society consisting of the type of "passionaries" will definitely not last long - they will cut one another.
      1. Senior seaman
        Senior seaman 21 January 2023 13: 22
        +6
        Quote: Trilobite Master
        , as well as Poland, where there were no serfs.

        Oh really?! No.
        Was it not there at all?
        1. Trilobite Master
          Trilobite Master 21 January 2023 14: 00
          -2
          Let's just say "virtually not". smile Shares of a percent.
          1. Senior seaman
            Senior seaman 21 January 2023 18: 17
            +4
            I, sinfully, missed the moment that the Communist Party in the Duchy of Warsaw was canceled under Bonaparte.

            P.S. Where did the notification bell go?! sad
        2. setter
          setter 21 January 2023 15: 49
          -1
          Was it not there at all?

          Here, in the form that the "superethnos" had, it really did not exist.
          1. Senior seaman
            Senior seaman 21 January 2023 18: 18
            +3
            It depends on what period ... during the heyday of the RP, as it were, no worse than anyone else.
      2. balabol
        balabol 21 January 2023 18: 31
        +2
        One gets the impression that people use the term "passionarity", introduced by L. N. Gumilyov, but apparently not reading the works of Lev Nikolayevich. They attribute different entities to this term at their own discretion. But the concept withdrawn from the system does not clarify anything in the essence of events. At some stage, passionaries are needed, and then they are harmful, society tries to get rid of them, left to their own devices without a super task, they self-destruct. They are not bad and not good, but only a group fulfilling its historical role.
    2. Eugene Zaboy
      Eugene Zaboy 22 January 2023 03: 29
      0
      In 2003, at the Church of the Annunciation on Myachina, built in 1179, archaeologists discovered a necropolis with several dozen ancient burials dating back to the pre-Mongolian and Mongolian periods in the history of Rus'.


      Before the Tatar-Mongol invasion, the average height of the inhabitants of Novgorod was 210cm.
    3. GneSPb
      GneSPb 24 January 2023 19: 15
      +1
      Real Tatars are blue-eyed and fair-haired, I have many Tatar friends and almost all of them look like Russians, those girls and many dark-haired ones.
  23. Luminman
    Luminman 21 January 2023 09: 43
    +3
    Quote: Illanatol
    Typical Batu Khan, yeah. Why be surprised if Polovtsian (Turkic blood) also flowed in the veins of Alexander

    According to one version, the etymology of the word "Polovtsian" suggests a white-yellow, straw-colored hair. And from this, in turn, follows the presence of bright eyes and the absence of Mongoloidity ...
    1. Illanatol
      Illanatol 21 January 2023 14: 10
      +1
      Quote: Luminman

      According to one version, the etymology of the word "Polovtsian" suggests a white-yellow, straw-colored hair. And from this, in turn, follows the presence of bright eyes and the absence of Mongoloidity ...

      There are different versions of the etymology of "Polovtsian".
      Hair and eyes could be light. For the Turks, this is quite real. But that princes and boyars, and even commoners, did not necessarily correspond to stereotypes - a fact. Our ancestors were not racists. "Slavophilism exists, Slavism does not."
      1. Trilobite Master
        Trilobite Master 21 January 2023 18: 01
        +3
        Quote: Illanatol
        For the Turks, this is quite real.

        Here we must understand that the Turks are only a language. There were also Turkic-speaking purebred Mongols and Turkic-speaking Caucasians. Archeology says that the Polovtsians were different - they found skeletons with a predominance of Mongolian signs, there were also Caucasoid ones.
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  25. Bolt cutter
    Bolt cutter 21 January 2023 11: 30
    +4
    Moreover, the increase in average height coincided with the first mass migration of Turkish men to this country.
    South Koreans are 10-15 centimeters taller than North Koreans. There is no immigration from Turkey belay They just keep growing. And today's young Chinese are no longer like the Chinese from jokes, but quite average. They and their mothers just eat enough. The growth of the Germans has been pulled up for the same reason - since about the 50s there has been plenty of food, and the genetics of the Turks, whom 90% of Germans look at as trained monkeys, have nothing to do with it.
    1. mihaylov
      mihaylov 21 January 2023 12: 28
      +7
      Quote: Bolt Cutter
      They just keep growing.

      There are enough historical and statistical studies on this topic: and a clear relationship between the improvement of the economic situation of the nation and its average growth is very well traced: the better the food, the higher the average growth of the nation.
      I was always surprised by the moment that after the reform to emancipate the peasants in 1861, the average growth began to decrease, that is, like a reform without a doubt progressive, the peasants were freed, but freed in such a way that their economic situation deteriorated significantly. As the saying goes: "We wanted the best - it turned out as always." hi
      1. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 21 January 2023 12: 35
        +3
        the better the food, the higher the average growth of the nation.
        The Chinese, born and raised in England, differ from Europeans only in appearance. Moreover, the Taiwanese Chinese are noticeably taller than the continental ones (I communicated with both at work). This is from personal observation.
        1. mihaylov
          mihaylov 21 January 2023 12: 41
          +5
          Quote: Bolt Cutter
          The Chinese, born and raised in England, differ from Europeans only in appearance. Moreover, Taiwanese Chinese are noticeably taller than continental Chinese.

          The Chinese now sometimes come across so healthy that you wonder, on average they are not very tall yet, but in 2-3 generations it may turn out that they will be taller than Europeans hi
          1. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter 21 January 2023 12: 54
            +2
            on average they are not very high yet
            But for a long time not goners from anecdotes. In the group where there were mainland and insular Chinese, the difference is clearly visible.
            will be higher than Europeans
            In Europe, approximately the same processes (people are getting longer) - and the food here, contrary to the opinions of the jingoistic patriots, has not disappeared anywhere.
        2. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 21 January 2023 19: 58
          0
          There have always been many large and tall people among the northern Chinese. Among the southerners predominated undersized. At the same time, it cannot be said that life was worse in the south of China. Often rather the opposite. In the south there were smaller people, but at the same time more enterprising. A lot of photos of the Chinese from the time of the civil war between the Communists and the Kuomintang have been preserved. On both sides there are a lot of tall people. At the same time, many tall people are simultaneously thin, if not skinny.
      2. kalibr
        21 January 2023 20: 28
        0
        Quote: Mihaylov
        growth began to decline

        But then it began to increase again until 1914. Data from military recruitment statistics. Years of famine - recessions. Everything is clear!
      3. sadam2
        sadam2 22 January 2023 19: 52
        +1
        serfdom is confidence in the future and a guaranteed future ... as Soloviev broadcast from TV yesterday - human life is overvalued in our time ... give it for the empire
      4. kaa
        kaa 23 January 2023 10: 24
        0
        Quote: Mihaylov
        released so that their economic situation deteriorated significantly

        The land fund that went to the peasants liberated from the fortress was on average 25% less than the land that they cultivated before 1861. The landowners did not offend themselves. No wonder life has become more difficult.
  26. gromovanton
    gromovanton 21 January 2023 12: 28
    +12
    The article is a rare stupidity and muck. Our country is a democracy and everyone is entitled to an opinion. But that's why such frank nonsense and disgust is placed on the pages of VO is not clear to me. At this pace, we will need to carry out denazification already in the Russian Federation ... Separately, "thank you" for the descendants of opportunists and careerists who survived after the Second World War. Doused so doused with shit both those who went through the war and the survivors and those who could not fight because of their age and worked in the rear. Yes, almost all of our people. And you can’t argue with the thesis - the best die in the war ... Disgusting.
    1. kalibr
      21 January 2023 20: 30
      -3
      Quote: gromovanton
      And you can’t argue with the thesis - the best die in the war

      Well, it's good that at least it came to you.
  27. Senior seaman
    Senior seaman 21 January 2023 13: 26
    +7
    Strange impression from the article. Not that I didn't expect it, but... negative
    "Purebred" representatives of noble families were either killed or emigrated. But those same patients who could “even eat with porridge, even churn butter” saw their chance in this, climbed up, and then it turned out what happened, for as much as 74 years.

    If we recall how these very "pedigreeds" behaved during the Civil War, the big question is who exactly is it more correct to call "terpils" request
  28. 1razvgod
    1razvgod 21 January 2023 13: 30
    +9
    A stupidly rare article, it would not hurt the author to go to study, and if age does not allow, then at least engage in self-education in this topic, but it is better not to write at all.
  29. Illanatol
    Illanatol 21 January 2023 14: 03
    +4
    Quote: Trilobite Master
    More than one in three. This is taking into account the annexed Baltic states and Finland, as well as Poland, where there were no serfs. In some regions of Russia there were more than two thirds of them.


    This is in the period of the late Empire. In the earlier era, the percentage was lower.

    Quote: Trilobite Master
    If not, I recommend looking at medieval miniatures with images of peasant women - there are not so many of them. .


    Accordingly, it cannot be considered a representative source.
    Dark hair color is a dominant trait. So blondes are rather an exception, even among the most true Aryans.

    Quote: Trilobite Master
    Regarding the Mongolian genes, I explained above why they simply had nowhere to come from. The Mongols and during the period of the invasion were a minority, no more than a quarter, the rest were conquered peoples, and then it only became smaller ..


    A quarter is not so little, especially since the Mongols were supposed to represent the nobility. That is, those who went into the service of the Russian princes. So the Mongolian genes were obliged to remain.
    And who are the conquered peoples? Siberian tribes? So how are their genetic traces revealed?
    In studies devoted to this issue, it was indicated that no genetic traces of the Trans-Ural ethnic groups were found at all.

    Do you seriously believe that given the duration of the "yoke", sexual relations could be limited to one-time acts of violence? That is unlikely.
    In addition, the (real) Mongols themselves are genetically quite homogeneous, the presence of foreign genetics was not noted among them. Direct descendants of those who have lived in Mongolia since the 6th century AD.
    What is not typical for the peoples of the imperial. Or did they let their "poor-bloods" go to barbecues? laughing

    Quote: Trilobite Master
    Any existing society is dominated by, as you say, "hamsters". Here, a society consisting of the type of "passionaries" will definitely not last long - they will cut one another.


    Quantitatively. But if the hamsters start to set the tone - kirdyk.

    Poor Rome, poor Romans. They should have cut each other at the very beginning of the story. And the Zaporizhzhya Sich - not to exist even for a year.
    And the Cossacks (starting with Yermak) had to kill each other in their campaigns ... and the "Mongols" were not supposed to exist, they are classic passionaries according to Gumilyov.
    1. Trilobite Master
      Trilobite Master 21 January 2023 14: 45
      +6
      Quote: Illanatol
      who went into the service of the Russian princes.

      These comrades can be counted. On the fingers. Well, of course, their nukers came with them, but with a huge degree of probability they already did not have Mongolian genes, being descendants of the same Kipchaks. They could not change the gene pool of Rus'-Russia simply because of their small numbers. Although, I think, if you investigated the gene pool of representatives of the nobility, then the percentage of the Mongolian substrate there would be noticeable.
      Quote: Illanatol
      no genetic traces of the Trans-Ural ethnic groups were found at all.

      More precisely, "found in very small quantities that do not affect the statistics." Exactly as much as episodic irregular contacts could leave. Moreover, the farther east from the Volga, the greater this percentage.
      The conquests of the Mongol Empire were like the movement of a snowball - while it was rolling across the steppe, it only grew, since the army of the victors immediately included some of the vanquished. As soon as the Mongols reached the borders of settled peoples, the effect of a snowball rolling on the asphalt turned out, that is, its size was constantly decreasing. By the time of the invasion of Rus', Batu's army was no longer purely Mongol, and the main striking force in it was the Kipchaks, who had transferred to the service of the empire.
      Quote: Illanatol
      Do you seriously believe that given the duration of the "yoke", sexual relations could be limited to one-time acts of violence?

      The duration of the "yoke" in this case does not matter. Neither the Mongols nor the Tatars lived in Rus', and the campaigns of the Horde in Rus' could not change the gene pool in any way, besides, these campaigns can also be counted on the fingers - there were not so many of them in three centuries.
      And the fact that the Mongols in their internal regions are genetically homogeneous why are you so worried? The Mongol Empire lasted only eight and a dozen years. Nobody ever conquered Mongolia itself. Where was there anything to come from?
    2. kalibr
      21 January 2023 20: 32
      +1
      Quote: Illanatol
      They should have cut each other at the very beginning of the story

      Is it really incomprehensible to you that they used their passionarity for external conquests? And so they would cut ... Exactly.
      1. Dismas
        Dismas 22 January 2023 15: 35
        0
        What did they let go? However, this "passionarity", along the way, also has self-awareness :)
  30. Illanatol
    Illanatol 21 January 2023 14: 30
    +5
    Quote: Mihaylov
    I was always surprised by the moment that after the reform to emancipate the peasants in 1861, the average growth began to decrease, that is, like a reform without a doubt progressive, the peasants were freed, but freed in such a way that their economic situation deteriorated significantly.


    Of course. The land was not given, they offered to buy it in installments. Wishing to quickly redeem the land, the peasants began to sell more grain (the marketability of the product increased) and consume less themselves.
    The military department even had to lower the criteria for recruiting recruits by height.
  31. Illanatol
    Illanatol 21 January 2023 14: 40
    +5
    But it was just completely different who survived - careerists and opportunists, although, of course, not only they. But there were more of them than before, they passed on their genes to their children, those to theirs, and away we go!


    Well, if molecular biologists establish the localization of careerism genes, then it will be possible to erect a monument to them.
  32. setter
    setter 21 January 2023 15: 45
    +6
    And today's young Chinese are no longer like the Chinese from jokes,

    Just the example of the growth of the Chinese shows very well that the author is bringing a fierce blizzard.

    The graph clearly shows the change in the average height of the Chinese over the past 100 years. Despite the fact that neither naked Cossacks nor Russian noblemen inseminated Chinese women during this period and, according to Shpakovsky, did not influence growth rates.
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 21 January 2023 15: 57
      +1
      an example of the growth of the Chinese
      I consider the data from Korea to be even more indicative - a clear difference between representatives of the same people in different conditions and in a fairly short period of time.
  33. bk0010
    bk0010 21 January 2023 15: 46
    +5
    The author does not understand a simple thing: proteins are encoded in DNA, not knowledge, not behavior, but proteins. They can influence behavior if the characteristics of the synthesized proteins have led to hormonal imbalance. An example of the fallacy of the author's position is the bull terrier. He was raised as a domestic, not a fighting dog, they did not pit, did not torture him, and he turned out to be a kind dog that does not offend people, dogs, or cats.
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 21 January 2023 16: 02
      +4
      bull terrier
      With dogs, it's just a hitch. Brazilian Mastiffs (fila brasileiro) are banned from ownership in England because even when cuddled from birth and wrapped in pink blankets, they remain aggressive towards humans. And in Brazil they were bred and used to control slaves. Dobermans are also aggressive regardless of the conditions of education.
  34. depressant
    depressant 21 January 2023 15: 50
    +2
    Well, I respected...
    Everyone tried to shine with what he was versed in. The question raised in the article was correctly answered by Eug:

    Wars lead to the death, first of all, of the most passionate and active members of society - a kind of "descent of social steam" in society. This is when they don’t want “social elevators” to work in society .... who benefits and needs it - decide for yourself ....


    Max1995 added:

    While you are reading - there is a strike over the hill, there are re-elections over the hill, a telescope was launched there, a collider was completed there, there is the 10th return of the 1st stage of the rocket .....
    ... we have "stability". The population is declining, AIDS and Corona are growing, the authorities are quietly violating the promises "there will be no attack, there will be no mobilization", price increases, irresponsibility .... and nothing. No protest, no social elevators. One negative selection.

    But it means that some kind of "stirring" of discontent was still expected. Or even hints of such a possibility had to be excluded. Hence the corollary is the first quotation.
    1. Trilobite Master
      Trilobite Master 21 January 2023 18: 07
      +7
      It's just that the content of the article itself is not very desirable to discuss. It's too provocative. Moreover, I do not want to translate this discussion into the plane of modern political realities, especially when it is done so stiffly, as in the comments you quoted. No.
  35. Mike_E
    Mike_E 21 January 2023 19: 48
    +5
    Vyacheslav Olegovich, upset. Disgustingly superficial and provocative article.
    1. kalibr
      21 January 2023 20: 39
      +1
      Quote: Mike_E
      Disgustingly superficial and provocative article.

      Michael! I didn’t invent anything - a cross on the church. Everything was taken from articles over the years by very ... authors. Its first version was released already in 2000, by the way. Those become already forgotten, probably. But if it turned out the way you wrote, then ... then the article was a success-for-for!
  36. Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 21 January 2023 20: 09
    +2
    Talented children also appear in narrow-minded, lack of initiative parents, and outstanding people often have very mediocre offspring. Also, the widespread clichés that during wars or mass repressions "the genetic color of the nation was knocked out" are not quite correct.
  37. astra wild2
    astra wild2 21 January 2023 21: 01
    +1
    Good evening, I have things to do: they can be fired. The authorities do not like to take rubbish out of the hut, but I did not hold back. Home found out and let me "shepherd". Checks my bookmarks.
    Katya is cunning: she immediately goes to Zen and Odnoklassniki and from there she reads romantic stories, and she “laid” me that I am clever in the Reporter. She thinks I have the same nickname as Reporter. I looked at the site, and there is another nickname. It seems that she suspects Lyudmila Yakovlevna that it is me. But I began to visit the Reporter more often, she looks: VlD and Depression in different planes and falls off, but we need to be on the site less often.
    Katka is nothing: her husband is at a defense plant, he will arrange it elsewhere, and you can also “sew on politics:” “discrediting the Armed Forces and ..... she is a skiff, but it’s easier for me: “crazy idler”, scolds Stalin and the current government.
    So we will be less frequent on the site. In fact, Katya already likes Nika Marsh, from Zen and she is often there
  38. runway-1
    runway-1 21 January 2023 21: 02
    +7
    Wars and genetics
    In general, the article is pseudo-scientific game with an admixture of bad theories, unfortunately ...
  39. cpls22
    cpls22 22 January 2023 00: 04
    +6
    until... humanity can find a more humane and civilized way, how to "sell such people to the side."

    Such people cannot be "sold to the side" - the ethnos is degrading.
    It is necessary to develop social mechanisms for their conflict-free integration into society. Social elevators, if you will.
    Here in the Russian Empire they adopted a law on "cook's children", thereby blocking their path to development - and they swept away this barrier together with the state. The CPSU became the nomenklatura ruling class, with the transfer of warm places to relatives and blat for their children in institutes - and the passionaries destroyed the USSR.
    And in the first case, the war did not help - because everyone was shaved into the army indiscriminately, and the Maxim machine gun didn’t give a damn either - who was a good fellow in the advancing chain, and who was so-so.
    And in the latter case, emigration did not help - the smart and non-conflict left, but the stands and leaders remained. True, the most frostbitten of them then shot each other, but they could work in a peaceful way, if the laws and ideology were more humane.
  40. Illanatol
    Illanatol 22 January 2023 09: 04
    +3
    Quote: Trilobite Master
    These comrades can be counted. On the fingers. Well, of course, their nukers came with them, but with a huge degree of probability they already did not have Mongolian genes, being descendants of the same Kipchaks. They could not change the gene pool of Rus'-Russia simply because of their small numbers. Although, I think, if you investigated the gene pool of representatives of the nobility, then the percentage of the Mongolian substrate there would be noticeable.


    You think ... this is not an argument. Exact evidence is needed for such claims. They are?
    And where did the true Mongols go? That they had to be replaced so quickly by former enemies. Died out at an accelerated pace, to the delight of future official historians? Oh well. Very kind of them.

    Genes, you see, are discrete and do not dissolve without a trace. If you get into the population, you can detect them (not necessarily these are genes, just specific DNA loci).

    Quote: Trilobite Master
    The duration of the "yoke" in this case does not matter. Neither the Mongols nor the Tatars lived in Rus', and the campaigns of the Horde in Rus' could not change the gene pool in any way, besides, these campaigns can also be counted on the fingers - there were not so many of them in three centuries.
    And why are you so worried about the fact that the Mongols in their internal regions are genetically homogeneous? .



    1. Has. Part of the administration (Baskaki) permanently resided in Russian cities. These officials obviously had protection.
    2. There were many campaigns of the Horde against Rus'. It's just that not everyone was big, not everyone got into the annals.
    3. The former lands of the Golden Horde (with their population) became part of Russia. Or were the Mongols cleaned up there too?
    The Mongols have disappeared somewhere, but the "Yoke" is still Mongolian laughing
    4. So, after all, the Horde took the "black forest", drove the Russians to full ... including a part - to the Mongolian Karakorum. Later - to Beijing, the capital of the great kagan. The writer Balashev generally cast a bullet that in Beijing the role of city guards was played by 5000 Russian warriors.

    And it is unlikely that this was done only with the Russians. So the Mongols, due to their small numbers, had to dilute their blood significantly.
    The unified Mongol empire may not have existed for long, but how long did its fragments last?
    And the most important question remained unanswered: how did the Mongols, having reached such heights, manage to lose everything at an accelerated pace? They forgot all combat skills, administration, advanced tactics, gunpowder and everything else ... again they became shepherds-shepherds, whom the neighbors did not take seriously.

    I recalled a case: my acquaintances Buryats and Mongol quarreled in my presence. The Mongol began to move about the great Genghis Khan, and then ran into the Buryats: like the Buryats, they are cowardly cowards who refused to join Genghis in his campaigns and the very word "Buryat" in Mongolian means something like an insult. The Buryat grinned and answered the Mongol: "Well, what did your conquests give you? As they were underdeveloped savages, they remained." Mongolia had nothing to cover ... Buryatia (Transbaikalia) is now more developed than Mongolia, in which there is nothing of its own.

    If the Mongols and neighboring peoples would go on distant campaigns to the West, then what a trace rich impressions from unfamiliar countries and outlandish customs would leave in their mythology and folklore!
    The Scandinavians have it. And the Mongols - as if nothing had happened.
  41. Illanatol
    Illanatol 22 January 2023 09: 19
    +1
    Quote: ee2100
    Maybe the author will provide links to documents about mass infanticide in Rus' during the yoke?


    That is unlikely. Pure slander on our ancestors. They wouldn't do that. This is neither in Russian nor in Christian, not in Orthodox way. Should a child pay with his life for the sins of his father?
    Interestingly, if the author of this opus were offered to personally break the skull of an infant (even the fruit of violence), would he go for it?
    If "yes", then he has a direct road to one of the Ukrainian volunteer battalions ... "Azov", for example. So to speak, "a commissar in a dusty helmet" with such views and ideas ...
  42. Illanatol
    Illanatol 22 January 2023 09: 28
    0
    Quote: Sergej1972
    There have always been many large and tall people among the northern Chinese. Among the southerners predominated undersized. At the same time, it cannot be said that life was worse in the south of China. Often rather the opposite. In the south there were smaller people, but at the same time more enterprising. A lot of photos of the Chinese from the time of the civil war between the Communists and the Kuomintang have been preserved. On both sides there are a lot of tall people. At the same time, many tall people are simultaneously thin, if not skinny.


    In cooler climates, height and body weight tend to increase.
    It is enough to compare the white and brown bear, the Ussuri and Bengal tigers.
    Ration. The basis is rice, beans. Animal proteins and fats (vitamins, trace elements) were not consumed enough. By now, the situation has improved, so the Chinese have become not as suffocated as before. The Japanese are similar.
    And there were no Russian "sex machines" fertilizing local females 24/7.
  43. Illanatol
    Illanatol 22 January 2023 09: 37
    +1
    Quote: Krasnodar
    As a result, for processing you received a one-time remuneration + increased standards.


    And the products produced as a result of "processing" - where did they go?
    Oh yes ... from the point of view of liberals, most of what was produced was useless. After all, heat and light in our homes, rolls in stores, schools and hospitals - as if spontaneously generated. Yes, and our houses themselves - they built themselves ... and here iron and steel, the production of which grew.
  44. Olfred
    Olfred 22 January 2023 11: 51
    0
    The author touched on a too complex and global topic, I'm afraid that it is very difficult to draw conclusions within the framework of one article, and even a book ...
    The point is that these are all tricks of the brain as a tool of evolution. laughing
    There is such a book by S.V. Savelyev "Cerebral Sorting".
    The book is ambiguous, but just about what the respected author wanted to tell in this post.
    hi
  45. Dismas
    Dismas 22 January 2023 15: 28
    0
    “Well, if a child was born by some miracle, then ... outwardly, it was so different from the Slavic type familiar to everyone that they didn’t even consider him a person, but they called him “a filthy offspring”, and ... by the legs and around the corner of the hut. That's the end of all genes!

    Well, you "scratch", just like an "eyewitness", sorry, "certified historian" :)
  46. Akuzenka
    Akuzenka 22 January 2023 20: 52
    +2
    Ha, Gauleiter Shpakovsky, in all his glory! And disregard for both historical facts and worldly logic. You will soon be noticed and elevated.
  47. faterdom
    faterdom 23 January 2023 15: 35
    0
    Here, after all, how - for the search and development of both the organism and society, both rebellious deviants and patriarchal guardians-conservatives are needed.
    They may not love each other, even hate, but a one-sided society is ultimately non-competitive.
    The same Spartans - the first known "breeders of man" eventually blew the competition to Athens, the Macedonians, and then the Romans.
    They were all the same Spartans, but only around them were not only helots.
    No less important is the ability of human communities to hierarchical structuring, experiments are also known when they tried to transfer the so-called "lowered" into one zone so that it would be blissful there, but no - their godfathers, men, sixes and shudra-roosters immediately started up there.
    A normal society cannot consist of only women or men, and it cannot consist of only sufferers or leaders.
  48. Arigin
    Arigin 24 January 2023 18: 53
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    Worst bullshit. Worst text on the site.
  49. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 24 January 2023 19: 48
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    Only now I got around to reading it and ... bravo!) Although the topic is "radical", it is still quite important from the point of view of "looking at things as they are". Populations select themselves by adjusting to a certain model, and this model, it often completely contradicts their own phraseology and declaration. What goes around comes around.
    Eugenics as a whole is a very good thing, because a person is the same animal in essence, albeit an intellectual one. It is also affected by selection, inoculation and weeding out of signs.
    What's bad about Eugenics is that when we get to the question "how to deal with substandard material" - in plant and animal breeding the answer is obvious. But not with people - and any fabrications about this will be the quintessence of violence, deceit and "anti-humanism". In addition to all this, such practices stand in sharp contrast with our modern ideas about freedom of choice and free will, albeit thoroughly frayed over several decades. Nevertheless, a person is often driven by voluntarism, rebelliousness - and in this he did not care and will try to give a damn about any rules, whether systems or even his own.

    An example of "selectivity" that Vyacheslav Olegovich may have forgotten to mention is Indian caste and Japanese caste (these are the most "charismatic" examples that I know of). The first is really the fruit of thousands of years of practice, the first anthropologists who entered the "scientific-pop genre" like the authors of "Man" wrote about the second, which indicated a significant difference between the samurai class and the peasants, and moreover, the lower "castes" of the untouchables.
    Could it be said that such practices gave something successful (competitive) to the tsiv-pits that developed them? No I do not think so. In matters of culture - perhaps. In others, they rather led to stagnation and rooting of bone in niches represented by established genetic groups. And where these groups were also small, they also led to degeneration.
    Would it be possible to judge the viciousness of such practices? Also, I don’t think - rather, this is the result of bringing certain rules “to the point of absurdity”, which is not good anywhere and in nothing. Often the members of such "selected groups" were bound by a significant number of rules and regulations that make life and search difficult or unbearable, a person was driven into a corner and deprived of his most creative part, being reduced to a tool. And the very infusion of fresh "bright" blood into these groups was excluded (or almost), in general, taking them out of evolution "outside", turning them into a "thing in itself".
  50. Gunther
    Gunther 25 January 2023 08: 17
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    Quote: TermNachTER
    It doesn't give away, it just stinks. Moreover, with a claim to "ultimate truth"))) and genetics is a complex science.

    Shpakovshchina - senseless and merciless)))
    Another confirmation that the author does not know Russian history, and even more so genetics - there are enough abilities to dig up the material, but to realize and understand what he naked is no longer. laughing
    I'm waiting for an opus about telegony.
    However, what to demand with timely re-
    retired teacher of the history of the CPSU)))