Kvachkov at the trial: I am tried for my thoughts, not for a crime

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The process of the case of the former GRU colonel Vladimir Kvachkov, who is accused of trying to prepare a military coup and promoting terrorist activities, is underway in Moscow.

On Friday, the prosecutor announced the indictment, after which Kvachkov told the court that his actions contained no corpus delicti, Interfax reports. But at the same time he did not answer the question whether he admits his guilt, explaining that his actions lacked corpus delicti, said defendant’s lawyer Oksana Mikhalkina.

According to the defender, Kvachkov believes that there is no evidence against him in this case, and, in his opinion, he is being tried for his thoughts. The lawyer said that at today's meeting two prosecution witnesses were questioned, one of whom said that he did not know Kvachkov, and the second said that he was forced during the investigation to stipulate the defendant in connection with the pressure on him by the investigators. “Thus, the witness for the prosecution has already refused the testimony given earlier,” Mikhalkina clarified.

She noted that during the trial, 63 witnesses must be interrogated from both the prosecution and the defense. "Today, I again filed a motion for consideration of the case in an open mode, and unexpectedly for me, after it had already been denied several times before, it was granted today," the lawyer said.

Now the court will close from the audience and the press only those meetings in which written documents with the signature "Secret" will be examined. The next meeting will be held on November 14 in open mode. It will continue the interrogation of prosecution witnesses.

Recall that Vladimir Kvachkov was twice acquitted by the Mosoblsud jury in the case of the attempted assassination of the former head of RAO UES of Russia, Anatoly Chubais. 22 December 2010, the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation recognized the acquittal of Vladimir Kvachkov legal.

The former person involved in the case then ensured that the prosecutor's office was obliged to bring him an apology for illegal criminal prosecution, and also sought compensation in court for non-pecuniary damage in the amount of 450 thousand rubles.

23 December 2010, the colonel was detained by FSB operatives in his apartment, from there he was immediately taken to the Lefortovo Court of Moscow, which authorized his arrest on a new charge - an attempt to prepare an armed coup and promote terrorist activities.

During the investigation of this case, the investigators appointed Kvachkov a psychiatric examination, which the officer found offensive and unsuccessfully tried to cancel it. A few months later, the doctors came to the conclusion that Kvachkov is mentally healthy and fully sane.

October 17 2012, the Moscow City Court refused to terminate the criminal case against Vladimir Kvachkov, rejecting the corresponding defense motion. The term of his detention was extended several times, the last - until April 4 2012.
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  1. traveler
    +63
    10 November 2012 12: 05
    His fault, in my opinion, is only that Chubais is still alive ... am
    1. +48
      10 November 2012 12: 08
      Yes, the fact of the matter is that if it had been prepared by the former GRU colonel, then there would be no wet place left from Chubais, the matter was concocted on the knee by amateurs ...
      1. ivan_stepanch
        +21
        10 November 2012 12: 29
        Honestly, I also really want to kill Chubais, and daily and for many years.
        1. YARY
          +34
          10 November 2012 12: 45
          And I DO NOT WANT TO KILL THE RED!
          I want a long, long, well, very long "conversation"!
          Such a conversation in which you have to connect it to the IVS and IVL devices so that he would not discard the skates ahead of time.
          Such a conversation that it would curse every second the day when his dad fucked his mother!
          KVACHKOV-HONEST AND TRUE PERSON AND SHAME TO THOSE PARTICIPATING IN THIS FARS!
          1. +12
            10 November 2012 13: 55
            Quote: Ardent
            I want a long, long, well, very long "conversation"!
            Such a conversation in which you have to connect it to the IVS and IVL devices so that he would not discard the skates ahead of time.

            Andrey, Kvachkova is already judged for his thoughts, more carefully with the statement about the Red Tatakan. He is with us mug the face is not touched. To soak it in the toilet, and not talk to him, such will not understand ANYTHING.
        2. ZKBM-BUT
          -27
          10 November 2012 15: 54
          why are you so hung up on chubais? Chubais is a very smart person and knows how to work, and he did a lot of good for the country. the whole country yells at him, and he is still in power. why do you think so? it's really simple. all the blame that he is accused is not of him, but of leaders in power long before him and not only. for example, the most frequent charge is privatization, or rather how it went. and did anyone think what really happened during this privatization? I will describe to you if anyone forgot. a country that had long dreamed of democracy finally got it. only without lawyers and experts of all stripes. stupidly there were no people and laws capable of carrying it out as it should. and we still have to bow at the feet of Chubais for taking on her, while realizing that all the blame will be attributed to him. normal privatization was not possible. but it’s necessary, give it to the people, because the people want to live in democracy. I am amazed at the critics of Chubais, figuratively speaking - they put him in a boat full of holes with broken oars. then they said swim and bring us as much on it as Western countries bring in a new super tanker. Well, it's stupid.
          1. Lech e-mine
            +9
            10 November 2012 15: 59
            it is privatization, or rather how it went. and did anyone think what really happened during this privatization? I will describe to you if anyone forgot. the country has been dreaming for so longshaya about democracy finally got it. only without lawyers and experts of all stripes. [/ Color

            ] HA = HA means CHUBAIS, knowing all this, simply tricked MILLIONS of our citizens with their privatization [hide] [/ hide]. It turns out HE is in a boat - the rest of the people are overboard.
            1. ZKBM-BUT
              -18
              10 November 2012 16: 10
              no, he did not cheat anyone. he did the will of the people. the people did want democracy. and it is impossible without privatization.
              1. Konrad
                +6
                10 November 2012 17: 36
                Quote: ZKBM-BUT
                . the people did want democracy. and it is impossible without privatization.

                Do not confuse privatization with PRIVATIZATION!
              2. +7
                10 November 2012 22: 03
                And where did you get the idea that the people wanted democracy? Moreover, with such privatization?
          2. Kaa
            +9
            10 November 2012 16: 24
            Quote: ZKBM-BUT
            why are you so hung up on chubais?

            Yes, if only because of this: "Privatization in Russia before 97 was not an economic process at all. It solved a completely different scale of tasks that few people understood then, and even more so in the West. It solved the main task - to stop communism. We solved this problem. We solved it completely. We solved it from the moment when at the elections in the 96th year Zyuganov abandoned the slogan “nationalization of private property.” He refused not because he fell in love with private property, but because he understood that if you want to get power in this country, take the madness back. They will take away from you so that it doesn't seem like a little. By this we forced him, regardless of his desire, to play by our rules, exactly what we had to achieve " ...
            If the collapse of the USSR is the "merit" of Gorbachev and Co., then the collapse of Russia is so far an unsuccessful, but no less painful "merit" of Chubais, for which he received a "nationwide resolution and respect." And an aspen stake in the future.
            1. ZKBM-BUT
              -8
              10 November 2012 16: 49
              the USSR was destroyed by a whole bunch of leaders led by the party. if you again describe it figuratively. we can put it this way - Gorbachev is just a "bullet". but the gun and the one who pulled the trigger is a party with all the "presidents" before him. under Gorbachev, all those problems that had created before him only surfaced. and no one could change anything. it is foolish to blame the executioner - if the court has passed the verdict.
          3. +9
            10 November 2012 17: 24
            Chubas systematically destroyed and destroys so far everything that could revive the strength and greatness of Russia! He himself has repeatedly stated that the main thing for him was to break the system ... We have the RUSSIANs, if you take up any business, the measure of your work is conscience, justice and respect of people. Kvachkov may have perused the stick somewhere in the propaganda of national ideas, but he never went against his conscience and there is something to respect him for! As for Chubais, not everyone can manage to turn a people's dream into shit. and he was on the shoulder ...
          4. +3
            10 November 2012 21: 23
            Yes, dear, you don’t need extremes. Chubais is one of the representatives of the current ruling elite. After all, we have a guarantor of the constitution and the parliamentarians we have chosen. But no one likes Chubais. At a cost of electricity of about 24 kopecks. It reaches us consumers by 5-6 rubles. This is the result of the reform of the country's energy system by this citizen and his associates. Well, we do not like Chubais!
          5. -1
            10 November 2012 22: 31
            ZKBM-BUT,
            This is what chupacabra says
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r88sLuXWTCY
            1. 0
              11 November 2012 17: 22
              Here, chupacabras are on strike and always more active. Like-minded people do not plus, but opponents are always minus. Even here, it all shows up.
          6. 0
            11 November 2012 03: 50
            you're a donkey, maybe an elephant.
          7. Fox
            +1
            11 November 2012 07: 30
            this is a dislocation of the brain! where are you, slipped something like that? and, ZKBM-BUT ...?
          8. 0
            11 November 2012 18: 35
            In your opinion, it turns out that Hitler’s minions were judged in vain, they only obeyed the orders of the possessed, well, did they give their own?
            Judge All who violated, and violates the laws of the Russian Federation. It was up there that they decided that the people want to live in democracy!
            1. ZKBM-BUT
              0
              14 November 2012 17: 33
              It was up there that they decided that the people want to live in democracy! - And the people are a tapaya sheep that can’t do anything, understand nothing, doesn’t affect anything? so do you think?
        3. Kaa
          0
          10 November 2012 22: 18
          Quote: ivan_stepanch
          I also really want to kill Chubais, and daily and for many years.

          If you can’t, but really want, then ... you can, you can’t deny yourself such small pleasures, or, you know, doctors say that hypertension is a disease of unreacted emotions, take care of yourself, my friend, indulge in Chubais wink
      2. +8
        10 November 2012 12: 39
        if it had been prepared by a former GRU colonel, then there would be no wet place left from Chubais

        Not a wet place, and even the spirit would not remain. However, Redhead continues to stink, for some reason.
        1. +5
          10 November 2012 13: 57
          Quote: v53993
          . However, Redhead continues to stink, for some reason

          Well, what color, such a smell, and the closer to brown, the more stink.
        2. +4
          10 November 2012 15: 59
          For some reason ?! Because in Russia there are no people who would like, consider it necessary, and could organize the destruction ...
          Let's be honest: the maximum is to knock on the clave and emit evil vibes - this is what today's Russian patriots are capable of ...
          Americans or Arabs, the same Chubais are those who, albeit evil, but do ...
          Well, except Kvachkov ...
          1. +2
            10 November 2012 17: 06
            ... and quietly put a minus ...
            Why, then, do villains flourish and no one touches them ?!
      3. 0
        10 November 2012 15: 21
        I agree completely, if there was a goal to destroy, long ago the liberties would have worn flowers for him as well as for the Gaidar.
        1. kopcep
          -1
          11 November 2012 19: 36
          So, Chubais is not the only thing. Otherwise, the people would have shot everyone for a long time. And no one could interfere. Too deep shit has permeated our entire ordinary life. And there is nothing to kick the power. If it is the source of shit, then we needed to destroy it, and not absorb the shit. And we absorbed in one way or another - and this is ours, and not their fault. They all feel it, and therefore are inactive. The first step to stop all this is to stop stinking yourself in all directions, including towards the authorities. Well, when everyone learns to get rid of shit, then shit will stop sticking to the country ...
          Threat. Well, you kill one redhead. So, what is next? A monument to the sufferer was erected to him, and ten more reddish ones would come in his place. Since Pussy Riot passed after all recently. You can’t shoot everyone ...
      4. +1
        10 November 2012 16: 24
        Quote: Dinver
        the case is cooked up on the knee by amateurs ...


        The most interesting thing is that these specialists still work and cook on.
      5. Konrad
        +3
        10 November 2012 17: 33
        Quote: Dinver
        the case is cooked up on the knee by amateurs ...

        When I read the investigation materials, neighing like a horse! Obviously, the guys investigators of American militants have seen enough, and worthless! laughing
      6. +1
        11 November 2012 08: 03
        Cornet, you’re right, Kvachkov’s case was fabricated by Chubais, so that he would not have a bottom or a tire.
    2. +7
      10 November 2012 17: 26
      Quote: traveler
      His fault, in my opinion, is that Chubais is still alive.

      What does Chubais have to do with it?
      The man is judged - for his thoughts, and the case of the attempt on Chubais was dragged by the ears !!!
      Even our pocket court did not find fault in his actions, it’s just a convenient person for a setup. A man planning sabotage operations in hot spots, couldn’t blow up a car in a forest near Moscow ?? ............. laughter and only!!
    3. 46bob46
      -9
      10 November 2012 18: 25
      Mekovat for a regiment.
  2. +15
    10 November 2012 12: 06
    Kvachkov is a smart man and a true patriot, and the fabrications against him do not lend themselves to any logic, which is at least worth the nonsense that was concocted upon him by the attempt on Chubais ... fool
    1. 0
      11 November 2012 00: 06
      Second charge
      who is accused of trying to prepare a military coup and promoting terrorist activities.
      , can be pulled by the ears, slightly "belittling" Kvachkov. Then I have a question: When managed? Even in the first case, the ink did not dry out, for a long time it was beaten off by idiots-fabricators, and he had already prepared a coup and helped the terrorists. Aw, well done. fool
    2. +3
      11 November 2012 18: 41
      Dinver RU 'Kvachkov is the smartest person and a true patriot, "
      I fully share your opinion! But who judges Kvachkov? The current Russian government, or am I wrong? He is judged primarily for what he says about the inevitability of the NEW RUSSIAN REVOLUTION! I have the same opinion, and many will agree with me too. So that means you and I all need to JUDGE, we are unfavorable for this government! I give a link to the site SHTURMtv, I often visit http://shturmtv.com/ there is just about this JUDGMENT
  3. predator.2
    +6
    10 November 2012 12: 13
    And who is behind this trial? red-haired toljan and Vovan Vovanych?
    1. +6
      10 November 2012 15: 24
      Yes, most likely, both. He, as a patriot and professional, knowing what they are doing with the troops, and therefore with his homeland, is dangerous to both.
    2. dimanf
      +8
      10 November 2012 15: 55
      the ornithologist is afraid of true patriots.
      these are not Kremlin-controlled bogs. and people who understand the real state of things in the country. not for nothing that the furniture maker killed the GRU so zealously. and Vova calmly looked at it.
      and the redhead will also sit out of Putin.
      1. EropMyxoMop
        +8
        10 November 2012 17: 32
        Kvachkov- Minister of Defense! So should anyone who wears epaulettes.
        1. OSTAP BENDER
          +4
          10 November 2012 20: 29
          I support the desire of the people to hang Chubais for me ....! It's time to think about which side the current government is on, whose interests it is following, and who should live well in Russia!
  4. Captain Vrungel
    +18
    10 November 2012 12: 14
    If the pros had undertaken to send a red-handed rogue to the forefathers, he would have turned it into a gaseous state along with armored limousines and personal bodyguards.
    This is the main alibi of GRU Colonel Vladimir Kvachkov.
    1. +6
      10 November 2012 16: 30
      I am sure that if he managed to send this evil to the forefathers, in Russian cities they would begin to erect monuments to him! ! !
  5. +14
    10 November 2012 12: 18
    Kvachkova for his thoughts, but Chubais for his deeds, they can’t even bring them to the prosecutor's office.
    1. Bender
      +14
      10 November 2012 12: 29
      Exactly, one real warrior of his country. The second is all freak and there’s nothing for him to do!
  6. Download Do Re Mi
    +19
    10 November 2012 12: 31
    Freedom to Kvachkov!
    1. +11
      10 November 2012 12: 40
      If "power" does not liberate, it will free the people.
      1. +4
        10 November 2012 14: 10
        v53993,
        It is necessary to arrange rallies, and then some kind of lawlessness !!!
      2. +6
        10 November 2012 16: 24
        They will also shut you up for organizing the metal band. So you don’t do this, you need to read V.I. LENIN - we will go the other way. By understanding and understanding what has been done to us and the Motherland over the past 20 years, who has done and how to deal with them? Chubais is an action of retaliation, but we need not retaliation, but the truth, court and punishment for all traitors, thieves, gigolos, but there are many of them, the owners are alone.
    2. +3
      10 November 2012 13: 58
      Quote: Download Do Ryo Mi
      Freedom to Kvachkov!

      Chubais to prison!
      1. EropMyxoMop
        0
        10 November 2012 17: 36
        [quote = Alexander Romanov] Chubais in jail! [/ quote
        ] If only temporarily while the executioner the gun charges.
  7. +2
    10 November 2012 12: 32
    I also think that the assassination attempt was not intelligible, more like a dramatization. But here is what Kvachkov did not share with the powers that be, and for which he has been tried for so long by an interesting question.
    1. 0
      10 November 2012 12: 45
      They said about people like you in the army: "Weak officer"
      1. 0
        10 November 2012 13: 02
        Andrei.
        Sorry, you're not an officer. Therefore, I remove the above claims as an officer.
        You are different.
  8. +4
    10 November 2012 12: 54
    If there are political motivated criminal cases in Russia, then first of all it is Kvachkov’s case, if the person really committed a crime, then investigate the case professionally by the FSB Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Prosecutor’s Office and send the completed case to court and do not imagine Chubais as a victim of popular anger, mocking the officer.
  9. in reserve
    +3
    10 November 2012 12: 56
    Zadolbali Kvachkova, and the real apposition of those like Navalny who muddied the real coup was delayed only after the NTV film, I won’t be surprised that Chubais is the same ghoul as Serdyukov, he simply doesn’t blame quietly.
    1. +12
      10 November 2012 13: 01
      He is not just a ghoul, but a ghoul in the LAW. He directed for such amounts that in comparison with him Serdyukov the baby. He is unfortunately a true gray cardinal of Russia ...
      1. in reserve
        -3
        10 November 2012 13: 27
        Western gray cardinal of Russia.


        Where are our three musketeers and Dartanyan laughing
    2. X-55
      +9
      10 November 2012 15: 15
      Quote: in stock

      Zadolbali Kvachkova, but a real position such as Navalny that muddied the real coup was delayed only after the film released by NTV

      Most likely, such as Kvachkov are more dangerous for the authorities than these opposition clowns.
      1. in reserve
        -4
        10 November 2012 17: 21
        I don’t know, I don’t know in other matters I was not noticed.
        1. in reserve
          0
          10 November 2012 19: 09
          Well, if you are minus it, justify in what matters against the state-va he was noticed. request
    3. Beck
      +1
      11 November 2012 18: 36
      In 2000, Putin came to power. Chubwys smoothly without excesses, much to the bewilderment of the people, moved from Yeltsin’s team to Putin’s team. Got a definition - unsolvable.

      Kvachkov organizes an attempt. He is being judged. The jury justifies Kvachkov. Power is not appeasing. Not by washing in such a way, at this time, he wants to condemn Kvachkov in whatever happens.

      Questions: Why did Chubais not share the fate of other reformers? Why is the government stubbornly pursuing Kvachkov?

      I dont know. But everything falls into place if we assume the following. Chubais, even before entering the Gaidar government, was a full-time or external KGB officer.
  10. Brother Sarych
    +6
    10 November 2012 12: 58
    If we are only judged by thoughts, then rarely will anyone deserve the highest measure!
    1. +2
      10 November 2012 13: 40
      Brother Sarych,
      Let the law of Cause and Effect judge for thoughts, according to the simple Karma.
  11. patriot2
    +13
    10 November 2012 13: 00
    Even logically: Colonel of the GRU, even if he organized the elimination of the "ginger cat", then with a probability of 99,999% we would be relieved to know that everything went well.
    Therefore, they judge not for deeds, but for thoughts and words.
    Freedom to a prisoner of conscience, Colonel GRU Kvachkov!
    And yet, the losers, the liquidators of the redhead, clearly acted on order, but not Kvachkov. This is not a grushnik style. You need to look elsewhere, but Kvachkov was made extreme on purpose in order to "kill two birds with one stone" and "ends in the water."
    The customer must be sought not in law enforcement agencies, but in business and among the nomenclature.
    But another court awaits another court - the court of the Russian people and the court of conscience in the afterlife, although it seems to him all the same.
    1. Rezun
      +8
      10 November 2012 13: 21
      In --vo, if Kvachkov wanted, they would drink compote at the commemoration of "rusty" ...
      Freedom to a prisoner of conscience, Colonel GRU Kvachkov!
    2. +4
      10 November 2012 16: 30
      With the dough that he stole from the people and received from the owners, any terrible judgment becomes tame. Only a frying pan forged by the proletarian and oil squeezed by the collective farmer, and the fire brought by the Chkist will save from dishonesty.
  12. +10
    10 November 2012 13: 10
    The "attempt on Chubais" was staged by Chubais himself. Personally. Without consulting anyone, and not trusting anyone.
    Arranged him because of his "understanding" .. as in the movie seen enough .. or read in a book.

    I came to this conclusion when I became fully acquainted with the case materials.

    On the site, almost all military personnel or who served in the army. So well understand how the movie is different from reals laughing

    I really hope that Kvachkov will soon be acquitted in the second fabricated case.
    1. +5
      10 November 2012 14: 03
      Quote: ammunition
      I really hope that Kvachkov will soon be acquitted in the second fabricated case

      They will acquit for the second - they will lead the third, fourth, etc. In my opinion, not only Chubais dislikes him, but also other "powerful people of this world." And if this is so, then for years he can be harassed in jail and courts. And this is at best. May be a heart attack or stroke.
      1. +7
        10 November 2012 14: 22
        "Ivy" not only Kvachkov. We need (each in his place) to resist, not falling into panic or hysterics .. There will be progress.

        They already have ... A little bit.
    2. 0
      10 November 2012 22: 52
      Quote: ammunition
      The assassination attempt on Chubais "was arranged by Chubais himself. Personally. Without consulting anyone, and trusting no one. Arranged him because of his" understanding ".. as he saw enough in a movie .. or read in a book.

      When the Colombian prosecutor was blown up, they put 1t of TNT into the blast. And then there are traces of a fragment and five holes from bullets in a car ?? question: did you want to kill him ??
      And Kvachkov or Ivanov, what's the difference? I had to find the switchman !!!!!!!!!!
  13. NICK
    -1
    10 November 2012 13: 18
    Faithful Putinoids, something you can not hear. Explain to me unreasonable how to capture the Kremlin with a crossbow?
    And where is Mr. Romanov, why wasn’t he noted (like a yard dog that marks everything tightly)?
    1. Al_miller
      -1
      10 November 2012 15: 09
      "Unreasonable". That's how it will be right. Learn Russian grammar.
      1. NICK
        0
        10 November 2012 17: 04
        Al_miller,
        Would you go on a walking sex tour under your flag.
    2. +1
      10 November 2012 16: 33
      They think, what is "crossbow"?
      1. EropMyxoMop
        +4
        10 November 2012 17: 53
        I am amazed how Kvachkov can be respected and at the same time believe the putler, because they are absolute antagonists in their worldview. Patriot and merchant yes wholesale but still a merchant.
    3. EropMyxoMop
      +1
      10 November 2012 17: 44
      Judging by the minuses, Nikita putlerovtsy is already here.
      1. NICK
        +2
        10 November 2012 18: 10
        EropMyxoMop,
        Already understood.
    4. OSTAP BENDER
      +4
      10 November 2012 20: 32
      NICK! And they have no arguments! Everything is clear here, but they cannot speak black on white!
  14. +9
    10 November 2012 13: 18
    Here, regarding the changes in the management of the armed forces, I observe euphoria and tears of affection - "Thank God!", ... "The ice has broken," etc. And so on. So let's look at the results of the trial of a true patriot of the Motherland - whether it has moved.
  15. iulai
    +6
    10 November 2012 13: 19
    couldn’t our GRU colonel finish off the redhead? if so, then the penny is our GRU. but I believe our colonel of the GRU could do such that the Chubais lay in stacks. why is the redhead still alive?
    1. +9
      10 November 2012 13: 33
      Quote: iulai
      our GRU colonel could have done such that the Chubais would have been stacked. why is the redhead still alive?


      If you got acquainted with the materials of the case on the "attempt on Chubais," you would laugh a lot for a long time. Some third grader could come up with such a performance laughing

      And in court ... one military witness on the move suggested a real plan (version) of the assassination attempt.
      One qualified rocket launcher on a highway bend. Where the target moves head-on on the arrow and slows down. The probability of success with one shot is 99%.

      Barely this military (in court) shut up ... laughing laughing laughing
      1. NICK
        0
        10 November 2012 14: 50
        Good idea!
      2. NICK
        +2
        10 November 2012 17: 14
        Quote: ammunition
        One qualified rocket launcher on a highway bend. Where the target moves head-on on the arrow and slows down. The probability of success with one shot is 99%.

        When will we go? But to mine the machine gunner is better.
        1. +1
          10 November 2012 19: 11
          Quote: NICK
          When will we go? But to mine the machine gunner is better.


          KPVT (with the machine) weighs almost 120 kg .. and from another machine gun the glass does not break through. laughing

          But point - this is not our method. No one really thinks about it. Especially Kvachkov!

          Here they write that they have many questions for Chubais. bully So everything should be in accordance with the law. The main thing is to make the laws work for everyone. And to work as it should.

          1. NICK
            +1
            10 November 2012 20: 29
            ammunition,
            In Mulino, one acquaintance with another removed a machine gun from the tower in 25 minutes and weighed much less. (Both sat down)
            1. +2
              10 November 2012 21: 25
              In Mulino loading station. And your friends took off for sure PKT.

              And you (with a friend), I would have ordered the two to carry the KPVT machine gun on a march-throw. Naked machine gun. Without machine and box with tape. Total 80 kg.

              And it would reach you laughing laughing
              1. NICK
                -1
                10 November 2012 22: 08
                Я

                he didn’t carry it, 80 kg closer to real, add e-despatch.
                there is a landfill
                1. +2
                  10 November 2012 22: 52
                  Nikita. I dragged KPVT. And in general .. very familiar with all kinds of weapons. Well, I don’t believe that your friends would shoot a machine gun of 14,5 caliber .. and a length of 2 meter 15 centimeters when there is an 7,62 caliber PKT nearby. Yes, and it is impossible to remove the KPVT in 25 minutes if all the hatches are not open in the BTR or BRDM. Yes A KPVT on the machine .. That is, a portable and four-legged frame is now withdrawn from service.

                  In general .. Let's quit flood.

                  Freedom to Vladimir Kvachkov!

                  PS And "Gorokhovets" along and across .. laughing so I know your landfill.
  16. +6
    10 November 2012 13: 20
    Judging by the thoughts, then most likely the highest measure awaits me!
    And for thoughts of opposition, the title of "bloody executioner"
  17. Brother Sarych
    0
    10 November 2012 13: 23
    Murder is not a method, the court is a completely different matter. who rightly appreciates all his crimes ...
    1. Kshatriy
      -4
      10 November 2012 17: 14
      Brother Sarych (3) November 7, 2012 21:59 ↑ -1
      Yeah, no matter how! There would be NO Russia, just a piece of cake ...
      .... What a stifled Russophile sting you have ... On a branch dedicated to the November coup of 1917 ....., you sang the memory, vile, executioners of the Russian people, and you choked in fierce anger against Russian patriots ... Kagalu descendants of Bronstein (Trotsky) - Senklid (countrywoman) - I licked my whole ass to a shine (do you remember all your comments ???) ....
      Quote: Brother Sarich
      Murder is not a method, the court is a completely different matter. who rightly appreciates all his crimes ...

      On this branch, very cleverly decided for the modern occupiers of Jewish nationality (can you deny that Chubais is a Jew?) To become an intercessor .... Vladimir Vasilyevich in his book "The main special operation is ahead" ... does not imply any court for modern the occupiers of Russia ..... On my own I would add: the intercessors and henchmen of the occupiers (by all means) are our National Russian contempt ... And God willing the Nationalists -Dzhavniki headed by V.V. Kvachkov, to the Joy of the Russian People -will come to power in long-suffering Russia!
      1. Brother Sarych
        +1
        10 November 2012 18: 55
        But do not you go on foot erotic journey, sir unfinished?
        Yes, I believe that Chubais should answer to the fullest extent of the law, and the process should be indicative, as a warning to posterity!
        1. Kshatriy
          -1
          12 November 2012 18: 40
          Quote: Brother Sarich
          But do not you go on foot erotic journey, sir unfinished?

          Ao Nengi Amin Geski Jalyab, Kutak Turda, Yitzhak Sadesski Obsa (Vali himself was the most dear descendant of the coachman and cook ...)
    2. Brother Sarych
      -2
      10 November 2012 18: 59
      Are you afraid of court? And why? Not the current court should judge him, of course ...
      No, I want to see HOW he will sit in the dock and babble excuses ...
      And murder - do you need a new martyr or something?
    3. +4
      10 November 2012 20: 46
      Quote: Brother Sarich
      Murder is not a method, the court is a completely different matter. who rightly appreciates all his crimes ...

      agree with you more profitable ends in the water
  18. Serg_Y
    -3
    10 November 2012 13: 32
    It is interesting to read when they criticize someone’s actions, such people always have something to do while someone is doing something.
  19. wax
    +4
    10 November 2012 13: 41
    Nothing, moving away from the edge of the abyss, you can figure out the details. And the pursuit of Kvachkov is well paid. The purpose of the persecution is to whitewash Chubais and his ilk. There are no measured funds. There will still be a holiday on our street.
    1. +4
      10 November 2012 18: 00
      I think it's not only about Chubais ... Kvachkov knows too much ... (For example, he DOES NOT believe in the version of the murder of Rokhlin and many others.) He enjoys too much authority in "army circles" and could become a unifying figure for a scattered Russian of the national movement ... Such a person must either work in conjunction with the imperious team or get rid of him ... And it's a pity ... This person could benefit our Motherland, because he is its real Patriot, loyal to the oath and to our people!
  20. bask
    +5
    10 November 2012 14: 04
    While in Russia we are “judging” such people, real Officers. This is a shame for Russia. Here is a patriot officer, whom you should be young. !!! What a special .... intelligence officer. How is his experience and honesty. not enough in the army ...
    1. NICK
      +5
      10 November 2012 17: 08
      Quote: bask
      While in Russia we are “judging” such people, real Officers. This is a shame for Russia. Here’s a patriot officer, whom you should be young

      Tell it to the commander in chief (this cannot happen without his participation).
  21. mar.tira
    +9
    10 November 2012 14: 21
    Yes, he could not! He couldn’t do this in his upbringing, preparation, development of the operation. He is a BATTLE OFFICER, he has all his thoughts about his homeland driven from his childhood, and from a military school, from a special forces fighting fraternity .. But not like those nerds who were going to judge him .. The order is 100%, or bending under power for the sake of a career. Only there will be a rotten career after that. The people have a strong memory! And the vitality of this matter comes from protection, oddly enough, by Putin Chubais. It was Chubais who noticed and brought to the Kremlin a quiet and unnoticeable guy from the Sobchakov’s apparatus. I understand that this is gratitude, but still you need to know the measure. in the case of Serdyukov. Chubais’s insolence has long crossed borders, but there will be an end. There should be no!
    1. +5
      10 November 2012 17: 25
      Looks like Chubais has compromising evidence on Putin.
      And how else to explain the "inviolability" of Chubais?
  22. +2
    10 November 2012 14: 25
    a shameful place that has been going on for many years ... can it be that, according to the GRU court, such mediocrity in the rank of colonel that they couldn’t beat the redhead and only scratched the hood? if the GRU colonel took up the execution, there would have been some kind of accident or accident, but not at all, but they also say that the judiciary is independent!
  23. +13
    10 November 2012 14: 25
    EH-Y !!! ... "RIGHTS DEFENDERS" - OUCH! .........SILENCE........
    Neither Novodvorskaya, nor Alekseeva, nor Churikova, nor ......
    HEY !!! ... "democrats" "- HOW! ...... SILENCE ......
    Neither Kasparov, nor Nemtsov, nor Bykov, nor Navalny .....
    It’s clear that if it’s not a payment one, then it’s not a defense, but the West
    Grushnika, and even against his client - nonsense. Rokhlin would have been alive, perhaps something would have been different. But alas.
    1. +4
      10 November 2012 16: 20
      I agree to all 100. These so-called human rights defenders raise barks when the owner gives them a command. Like hunting dogs look into the owner’s eyes waiting for a command to earn a piece of meat.
  24. andrey9031
    +5
    10 November 2012 14: 30
    Who are they to arrest and judge Kvachkov? They are in the best case equal to his boot
  25. +15
    10 November 2012 14: 52
    Judge: "Accused Kvachkov, we are not asking you about the motives that prompted the shooting at Ryzhy. They, in general, are clear to everyone. We do not understand one thing, how you, the personnel GRUSHNIK, could not get there from such a distance?"
    Accused Kvachkov: "You get here, when the crowd is around, everyone is trying to snatch the screw cutter out of their hands and yelling, let me, let me!
    1. +2
      10 November 2012 16: 34
      Thank you, here he was laughing to tears !!!
  26. Kshatriy
    +6
    10 November 2012 15: 36
    Colonel Vladimir Kvachkov:
    "WE HAVE RELEASED FROM THE CAP!"
    Conversation of the editor-in-chief of the newspaper "Zavtra" with the Russian Hero
    A.Prokhanov: ......... a huge number of Russian People from ocean to ocean rejoice in your release!
    V. Kvachkov: Thank you, Alexander Andreevich. I agree with you: this is a common victory. You mentioned the jury. Those twelve people experienced tremendous, incomparable moral pressure. The entire judicial system, which the jury saw in all its current disgrace, put pressure on them. arbitrariness. And yet they made this decision! Strong-willed, heroic, honest. Eleven out of twelve people said: “Not guilty!” The jury showed civic courage in showing spiritual resistance to the cannibal system. Amazing shifts in people's consciousness: Russia is alive, the Russian people are alive
    AP: .................. How would you define your three-year captivity?
    VK: ................................. I am a believer, an Orthodox Christian .. I was baptized already mature, in 40 years old .......... The Orthodox faith, the understanding that God gives each one his strength, is something without which it would be very difficult. I suddenly realized that if the Lord sent me to these trials, then he believes in me. That I have the strength, there must be the strength to endure it. It came to the realization that the Lord sent me to the front, to the fight. I left the front of military special operations and came to the front of the spiritual struggle ..... .......
    I realized that I was in a war, that it was just another war for which I needed to prepare and study, and everything fell into place. I am an officer, I am in a war ...

    So ... everything is clear on the military .... To the words of Vladimir Vasilievich ..., personally I have no comments ... (I agree .... I agree ..... I agree completely)
  27. +7
    10 November 2012 16: 12
    At first they dealt with Yu. Budanov with impunity and now they also dealt with Kvachkov. How long will they continue to commit atrocities in Russia?
    1. TekhnarMAF
      +5
      10 November 2012 17: 11
      As long as WE will perceive it as something distant, interesting, but not concerning us. Another "soap opera"! non-binding.
  28. +5
    10 November 2012 17: 23
    Comrades, can someone tell you what kind of creature - Redhead. The term "betrayal of the Motherland" has long ceased to describe the scale of his activities. Even the "agent of America" ​​doesn't explain anything. Who is fashionable to say anything, why this creature robbed all the people - and got away with it? Has destroyed and transferred overseas management of the power system - and at least to hell? Taburetkin, about which the entire site is buzzing, is a cockroach in comparison with Red. Maybe he is a protege of aliens?
    1. +4
      10 November 2012 18: 27
      Quote: homosum20
      Maybe - he is a henchman of aliens?

      From the constellation of GDP.
  29. +6
    10 November 2012 18: 01
    Patience to you Vladimir Vasilyevich, patience and health. Hold on.
  30. +2
    10 November 2012 18: 10
    Only idiots can initiate cases of preparations for a coup in Russia. How they represent a coup in a modern setting.
  31. 46bob46
    +1
    10 November 2012 18: 41
    Chubais campaign needs to pack things. This is the last of the most odious figures of post-union life. The noise around the Kvachkov process is the first bell. If the discharge of Serdyukov is the beginning of the fact that Putin has assumed the burden of the leader and will no longer allow shitting on his head from a variety of ministers and nanists.
  32. +10
    10 November 2012 18: 55
    What does a typical viewer know about Colonel Kvachkov? That he shot at Chubais, did not hit and was acquitted. What does a typical viewer know about the new trial of Kvachkov? Almost nothing. As well as about other trials of those who are the real opposition to the existing liberal Russian authorities. What does the viewer know about Pussy Wright? Everything is known about these mandavoshki in detail, as well as about the artists of the marsh big tops. The television screen constantly feeds, in exorbitant amounts, to the average man a surrogate in support of the liberal Putin’s patriotic image, about true patriots, only occasionally, short stories, as in the case of Budanov’s murder.
  33. +4
    10 November 2012 18: 56
    It's just a quiet horror that the Russian "justice" is doing ... And all the channels are talking about Stalinist repressions and bloody communists ... Yes, after such a persecution of people, Stalin is just an innocent baby compared to the current ones ... who have already ruined about 40 million Russian lives and foolishness over Stalin. Where does the figure "about 40 million" come from? This is the difference between the current population of Russia and the population that could have been if the birth rate remained as in the Soviet Union ... A purely accounting approach, no manipulations ...
  34. -1
    10 November 2012 19: 10
    He always treated Kvachkov with respect. Until I watched the video where he and Maxim Kalashnikov admired the so-called "Primorye partisans" ..
  35. Hedgehog
    +5
    10 November 2012 20: 10
    I may be childishly naive but:
    Is it possible to arrange an online vote in support of Kvachkov? After all, this is at least some support and recognition. And the people here are decent - you can assemble a good support group ... Perhaps this will not make any sense, but maybe not ...
    1. +2
      10 November 2012 22: 08
      Has already
      http://www.shturmnovosti.com/kvachkov/
      here you can also write a few words in support of Kvachkov V.V.
      Well, a couple of affectionate to the Yeltsin-Putin regime.

      In my opinion, Kvachkov has become the central figure of the political situation in Russia. Kvachkov became the unofficial leader of the resistance. He is the "purifying filter" behind which the healthy national-patriotic forces of our country will crystallize. This is already happening. There are not many of us yet. But there will be more and more. At some point, Mr. Putin will try to leak. (Do not even think).
      Therefore, the government understands - either it will destroy Kvachkov, or he will destroy this power.
      Hold on to the namesake. May God give you and your family strength.
  36. +5
    10 November 2012 20: 24
    There is an opinion that this redhead is for ... and Chubais is a protege of either the Rothschilds or the Rockefellers in Russia, and almost even expresses himself by a thieves hairdryer-watching over Russia.
    And if you take it on faith, then a lot falls into place. Therein. including its survivability and unsinkability. Anyway, bye.
    1. 0
      10 November 2012 20: 53
      but no other
      Quote: sergo0000
      its survivability and unsinkability
  37. +1
    10 November 2012 20: 38
    Yes, investigators do not believe in the professionalism of GRU specialists! But in vain! To bang an object, they just like two fingers ...
  38. +2
    10 November 2012 22: 15
    "On December 23, 2010, the colonel was detained by FSB operatives in his apartment, from there he was immediately taken to the Lefortovo court in Moscow, which sanctioned his arrest on a new charge - an attempt to prepare an armed coup and facilitate terrorist activities."

    It didn’t work with Chubais, so there’s a new charge .... In general, an "armed coup" is cool. How many people should be involved then?
    What about terrorist activity? I would like to know more specifically.
    Explicitly judged for something that someone really doesn’t like somewhere. Or for knowing too much.
  39. Mazaew
    +4
    10 November 2012 23: 38
    When people talk about Chubais-for and against-all, it is as if emotions overwhelm. And for emotions, for some reason, the most important question is lost.
    After all, he seems to be the only one of the liberal democrats of Yeltsin's time, still on horseback. How many politicians are up and down this time (there really aren’t others, and those 20 years ago are not a joke). And he’s kind of untouchable, or something ? Not enemies, not ailment does not take. Quietly, quietly, especially not shining, sitting in its place, doing its job.
    The Serdyukovs are falling nearby, Fursenki, etc., but he apparently grabbed onto it, even no one would pickle. WHY?
  40. Ash
    Ash
    +6
    11 November 2012 05: 29

    Unfortunately this is the case...
  41. IPMEN
    +1
    11 November 2012 07: 21
    Everything has its time ....... Kvachkova - at will ....... Chubais - into the zone ...... (... like Khodorkovsky, let’s sew mittens for the Kremlin for life)
  42. +5
    11 November 2012 07: 51
    Freedom to Colonels Kvachkov and Khabarov !!!
  43. grizzlir
    +6
    11 November 2012 10: 45
    Here you are saying a lot that there is no alternative to Putin. If he is not Putin, then who? And there will be no alternative to him, he is very afraid of it. All people who can compete with him either mysteriously or suddenly die, or become defendants in criminal cases. KGB old school in action.
  44. +7
    11 November 2012 15: 18
    The worst thing is that the PATRIOTS OF RUSSIA are being judged, not traitors. And the stool will be rearranged to another place, ED - "getting stronger". Not bulk, chubais burbulis nemtsov kudrin and others, but communists and honest people are sitting ...
  45. Owl
    +7
    11 November 2012 15: 30
    By this "trial" the authorities show their bankruptcy and anti-nationality. "The Kvachkov case" and the real cases of embezzlement of finances in the Ministry of Defense, at the summit, in Roscosmos (which were "kept" by VVP to portray themselves as the guardian of "people's good") show that Russia, unfortunately, "passed" point of no return ", the current power of traitors, which betrayed the interests of the Motherland and the People, exchanging them for personal enrichment, will not give up the power in the state in a civilized and constitutional way. or long terms or "capital punishment".
  46. serge
    +1
    11 November 2012 15: 35
    Kvachkova is tried for a thought crime.
  47. Gorchakov
    0
    11 November 2012 16: 13
    In its place should be Medvedev and Chubais and all those who gave orders to prosecute him and executed these orders ....
  48. -1
    11 November 2012 16: 25
    I, of course, will now fall into the outcasts of the local community, but tell me, besides, this is a military honored officer, that he is against the existing government, against Jews and Caucasians, does anyone else know about Kvachkov? Here I am writing "Kvachkov" on YouTube .. What do we see? Open in front of the cameras - - how to neutralize tanks in the event of an uprising, how to set riot police against "blockheads" during actions, although he is not for one or the other, but it seems like you have to be cunning .. About admiration for the "Primorsky partisans" I already mentioned .. Examples can be given endlessly .. What's this? Action plan? If Rokhlin had a certain plan, then he didn't behave like that! Or is it simply that a patriot is unable to endure the current state of affairs and is now shouting to the whole of Russia - let's rise up? But he's an officer. GRU officer. Everything should be in order there with endurance. He is one of those who will not climb into the frontal on the tank, he will prudently wait for him in ambush with a grenade launcher. Something does not agree .. The calculating mind of the GRU analyst and the statement of his plans to everyone and everything .. Like some kind of provocation .. For those who now say that I am not a patriot and that I am against a patriot, this is not so .. I am a person from the USSR, a 100% patriot. My choice is a modest life and a sense of pride for my country, as it was before 1991, than what we have now .. Now we need to do something, but do it right .. Patriot is patriotic strife .. For example, on the nvo website. ng.ru very frequent articles on the topic - our tank shells, which we have, are worthless .. The armor does not match ... It's time for other engines .. These are patriots .. They do not get tired of reminding - do something !! we are lagging behind !! In contrast to those who, at every opportunity, will laugh downwardly at something Chinese, who still confidently believe that Russian (Russian, Soviet) is the best.
  49. not good
    +2
    11 November 2012 22: 10
    Kvachkov was pressed not for the fact that he wanted to kill Chubais, but for the fact that he possessed too dangerous information, just as the GRU had been chopped up for knowing too much. They would try to keep Kvachkov longer, though not at all
  50. not good
    0
    11 November 2012 22: 32
    Kvachkov was pressed not for wanting to kill Chubais, but for threatening to order too dangerous information on honor and conscience, and the company could not be closed differently. Yes, and the GRU was chopped up for knowing too much.
    They will try to keep Kvachkov longer, they will lose one thing and fabricate another. Until there is no go-ahead, they will not calm down.
  51. ZKBM-BUT
    0
    14 November 2012 17: 26
    looked. He talks about this, only in different words. and you know, I personally am offended that there are a lot of donkeys in our country who want to yell at the leaders. and forgetting that the people themselves put these leaders in leadership positions. people, for example, spit in the direction of Lenin for communism - although if you look at it, Lenin was only a pawn in the hands of the people. and Stalin also and all all all the leaders before and after. so it was, is and will be. you say I'm crazy. No. It’s just that in my “world” the rank is only my servant who carries out my will. and in the world of those who taught me cons - rank is the god of the people. and personally, a smile appears on my face when these admirers of rank begin to groan from his intrigues. in their world, rank will always be to blame for everything, and the “white and fluffy people” will be poor and hungry.