Mercenary country. What are they paying Ukraine for?

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Mercenary country. What are they paying Ukraine for?

Have you ever thought about a simple and quite logical question: were there civilian infrastructure facilities in Stalingrad? Then, when the Germans attacked our troops, regardless of their own losses? Were there objects of this notorious civilian infrastructure in Soledar or Mariupol? Maybe they are in Artemovsk? I know about the props of dill, but I don’t know about this notorious infrastructure.

Every house, every attic or basement, every road or gateway is a fighting position. Looking at satellite photos drone, six months ago and those made recently, and you understand that there is no civilian infrastructure in battles in urban areas.



And the second question, which is very often raised today, but for some reason was not raised during the Battle of Stalingrad, during the capture of some cities, during the blockade of Leningrad. How much does this defense or the capture of the city cost? Who, perhaps, except for narrow specialists, knows how much a projectile for a 76-mm cannon or a mine for an 82-mm mortar cost during the Great Patriotic War?

Today, I periodically read about the cost of the Javelin or any other weapons that are supplied to Ukraine. And there in the comments there are malicious words about how much Ukraine already owes to the West. And for some reason, these comments do not continue. Written and forgotten. Meli Emelya is your week.

Do they lend? Loans to be repaid? How many years has the West been supplying weapons to Kyiv? And what about the return of loans? How many hryvnias have already been given? They do not even pay interest, and the flow of loans is growing every month. Strange, right? Perhaps there is an explanation for this phenomenon?

There are no civilian targets in war


Alas, today in Ukraine there are practically no enterprises that would not be involved in the war to one degree or another. Any enterprise is engaged either in the production of military products, or components for such products, or in the repair of equipment and weapons. This is quite logical in wartime. Only the fulfillment of military orders provides the enterprise with work.

Is it necessary to destroy such enterprises? Undoubtedly. By all available means. Will the civilian population suffer from such actions? Alas, the answer is yes. Someone will die under the ruins of workshops, someone will be left without a job, therefore, without a salary. But such is the logic of war. People are dying not only on the front line, but also in the rear.

The topic, which is raised by the Ukrainian media after each shelling, about rockets hitting residential buildings, hospitals and children's institutions deep in the rear of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has not yet received confirmation. Alas, the transformation of residential buildings into targets is typical only for the zone of direct contact between troops.

Those hits that really exist are the result of a confrontation between air defense and missiles or drones. Like once fragments from anti-aircraft shells that fell from the sky in the course of work on enemy aircraft.

Airfields and railroads. What is it if not objects of military logistics? Yes, civilians use trains. But at the same time, these same trains transport personnel and military equipment. Should these objects be destroyed? Again, definitely! All transportation must be made as difficult as possible.

Unfortunately, today both tasks are carried out with great difficulty. Why? Yes, because we could not really suppress the air defense of Ukraine. They failed simply because the tactics of their use have changed radically, and we cannot resist these tactics without a direct clash with the West. Ukrainian air defense is silent. And it starts working only when our planes are already in their zone of destruction.

US and NATO satellite reconnaissance works great. Planes have just taken off from airfields, and air defense already has data on all parameters. How many cars, likely areas where they are going and so on. Air defense is already waiting for them. Here is the picture of the day.

Missiles and drones are serious weapon. But its power is not enough for a powerful defeat, or rather, the destruction of the target. One 600-kilogram bomb corresponds to one Caliber. And the strategist carries almost 50 of them!

Money was, is and will be


Now about the money.

Isn't it strange that Kyiv is mired in debt like silk, but it regularly pays money not only to workers and employees, but also to soldiers and officers. For example, remember the salary of our mobilized? Have you ever wondered where the figure that formed the basis of the presidential decree came from? I have a guess.

So, the salary of a Ukrainian soldier at the front is, according to rumors, 115 thousand hryvnias and more. And they pay well. Even, judging by the few speeches of the fighters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with requests for salaries, they are paid without delay.

So where does the money come from?

The explanation of the situation, it seems to me, is exactly the same as with the supply of arms. Kyiv does not earn money, but receives from Western funds in the form of either assistance or loans. And he gets it right. And will receive as long as the war with Russia continues.

Alas, unlike weapons and ammunition, the West has a lot of money ...

How much is Ukraine?


Probably, what I will write now will come as a surprise to many. This is quite difficult for a person to accept. But, Ukraine is paid money to act as a mercenary. That is, she fought instead of her master.

Mercenary country! A country where everyone - from a simple janitor or plumber to the president - lives off the war.

Above, I already wrote about the ruined economy and the inability to earn money by producing some goods. Those crumbs that were received for the export of grain and other agricultural products are simply not visible against the background of the huge costs of the war. From the word at all. These funds will even be enough to pay monetary allowances for the military for a couple of months.

A country that lives on blood, on the lives of its citizens. Mercenary country. This is a complete degradation of the state.

Who doubts that as soon as Ukraine stops the war, all these injections will stop? I think such optimists can be counted on the fingers.

What is the way out of this situation?

To be honest, I don't see a way out. The stump that remains of Ukraine, and I think that the Poles and other countries that lost their territories after the end of World War II will not miss theirs, will become a territory somewhat similar to the Baltics. There are Ukrainians, but there is no Ukraine. Everything of any value has already been sold.

Some Ukrainians are dying at the front. Others are laborers in the fields of Western countries. Trade in people and human "spare parts" flourishes. Ukrainian women filled European and Asian brothels. Others became surrogate mothers and were taken out of the country.

The list of such achievements can be long. But why? The fate of Ukraine has already been decided...
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  1. +2
    15 January 2023 04: 44
    Black gloves do not take off afraid to get infected. Although what is there with these swaggers, and so it will do.
    1. +7
      15 January 2023 05: 53
      Good article! I have long been convinced that Ukraine lost the war. Its economy has failed. Almost all peaceful industries collapsed. And the Ukrainian economy is now sitting on a drip of dollars and euros.

      Therefore, the conclusion is that it is necessary to worsen the economy in the USA and Europe by any means.
      Why can't we impose an embargo on the supply of raw materials?
      Why can't we nationalize all property in Russia that belongs to unfriendly countries?
      Why, finally, we cannot take away the property from the so-called. oligarchs who shamelessly support either Ukraine or the West?

      There are no "honest and good wars" now! Everything must be done so that the enemy's economy is weakened as much as possible.

      We must remember the main approach of the West: a successful war against Russia is waged at Russia's expense - this is very profitable.
      1. 0
        17 January 2023 14: 33
        Russia has property and non-property assets in the West. Russia has assets of pro-government oligarchs in the West. Russia is part of the world economic system, so any nationalization of the property of unfriendly countries and restrictions on the supply of raw materials, no matter how much you would like, will have a very strong impact on Russia.
    2. +1
      15 January 2023 06: 22
      Black gloves do not take off afraid to get infected

      The West (Europe) in the Middle Ages (in Rome there was cleanliness) was in the mud and did not wash, and therefore suffered from epidemics much more than Russia. For example, in Norway they don’t shake hands at all, well, except when they get to know each other or when you leave for a long time. It’s just that during the next epidemic, all their nobility and clergy died out. people survived only on the wild islands.

      It amazes me how, with a low population density, they managed to die out in Norway like that !!!
      How???
  2. +3
    15 January 2023 05: 34
    A country that lives on blood, on the lives of its citizens. Mercenary country

    Disposable State. Just like toilet paper - wipe it off and throw it away...
    1. +3
      15 January 2023 06: 07
      Yes, everything is disposable. And the people, and thinking, and the state.
  3. +12
    15 January 2023 05: 42
    Why is the author so surprised by the degradation of Ukraine? The history of Ukraine began with betrayal. From the betrayal of Mazepa. Surrender, deceive, lie, hide the truth - this is the norm for the current citizens of Ukraine. Seen enough. Convinced. Checked.
    1. +6
      15 January 2023 07: 36
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      Why is the author so surprised by the degradation of Ukraine? The history of Ukraine began with betrayal. From the betrayal of Mazepa. Surrender, deceive, lie, hide the truth - this is the norm for the current citizens of Ukraine. Seen enough. Convinced. Checked.

      Taken straight off the tongue! I agree with you to the last letter!
  4. +3
    15 January 2023 05: 44
    The war is still going on in the Donetsk region. And care must be taken that for the citizens of Donbass, the infrastructure is damaged as little as possible. The fight against fascism requires the formation of an anti-fascist front, and not an army to destroy the country. Although, these are only wishes in our cruel age.
  5. +3
    15 January 2023 05: 49
    This article is not about anything, it is clear that they are paid, by Western standards for mercenaries, it is not expensive 115 thousand hryvnias = $3 as of January 140th.
    For example, wages in Germany
    Salary of highly qualified employees 3550 EUR/month. | 3999.73 USD/month 2017
    Salary of low-skilled workers 2050 EUR/month. | 2309.703 USD/month 2017

    Second and most importantly, in the article where we flutter, the whole WEST is against us !!!
    Russia will always win strategically, and the West understands this, and therefore they are trying in any way to impose an end to the confrontation on us.

    We stand as if on the Ugra to the end.

    And the author is a typical blogger, or just to moan. so that more people read and earn money, or in general an ideological enemy or just a traitor.

    Here is a good article about them.
    https://cont.ws/@alexandr-rogers/2461831
    At the same time, the closed part of the budget does not allow Mom's analysts to understand where the additional 7,42 trillion went (out of a total spending of 31,1 trillion). For some reason, I think that the lion's share of this amount was spent on buying back the assets of Western companies for next to nothing (more on this later in the text). That is, for soft nationalization with a discount of 40-80%.

    “In 2022 there was a record outflow of capital from Russia, well, that’s all…”
    Favorite fairy tale of the Khazin party. They masturbate to this indicator, stupidly not understanding its meaning.
    The outflow (or “export”, as you like) of capital from Russia last year amounted to about $250 billion.
    What does it mean? That Western corporations sold their property in Russia (including shares in large Russian corporations), and then transferred the money received from the sale abroad.
    At the same time, and I have repeatedly written about this, they sold shares at a discount of 40-60% (in some especially neglected cases it even reached 80%). And then they lost the lion's share of the rest, converting the proceeds into dollars at a rate of 140+.
    1. +6
      15 January 2023 13: 40
      Quote: bya965
      This article is not about

      And when at least one article by Staver was filled with real meaning?
      It's just that the political instructor published his next weekly "analysis" - and the deed is done.
      But this time the ending is confusing. This one: "The fate of Ukraine has already been decided ..."
      The fate of Ukraine will be decided by fighting on the front line. But not Mr. Staver. He had already solved it once, defending Kherson to the last drop of blood. I wonder if he was broadcasting from the trench then? Doubtful...
      But to share the skin of an unkilled bear - here Staver is in the forefront.
      1. -6
        15 January 2023 15: 01
        Quote from: skeptick2
        And when at least one article by Staver was filled with real meaning?
        It's just that the political instructor published his next weekly "analysis" - and the deed is done.
        But this time the ending is confusing. This one: "The fate of Ukraine has already been decided ..."
        The fate of Ukraine will be decided by fighting on the front line. But not Mr. Staver. He had already solved it once, defending Kherson to the last drop of blood. I wonder if he was broadcasting from the trench then? Doubtful...
        But to share the skin of an unkilled bear - here Staver is in the forefront.

        You have been registered here since August 22, when did you manage to master the entire archive of Staver articles?
        They would have dumped their "pisulina" on display in order to let the public appreciate your analytical genius and literary style. And then, apart from how to throw the substance on the fan, with other analytics, you somehow didn’t work out.
        1. +5
          15 January 2023 21: 01
          All in good time.
          I have already promised that I am preparing an analysis of the "downed" aircraft and helicopters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. There will be "pisulina", do not worry like that.
          And note. Type in the search box https://topwar.ru/opinions/, and after the slash to put any number is not so difficult, you can try. It should work even for you. And do not believe it - all the "analytical" articles of the aforementioned author will be in full view. Regardless of when the visitor registered on the resource. Not to mention the fact that the name Staver can be typed simply in the search box of this resource.
          Did the mention of Kherson hurt you? So I did not force Staver to write about him in the spirit of "Russia is great, but there is nowhere to retreat, Moscow is behind us!"
          And the last. Do not forget that "manuscripts do not burn." And on the Internet, nothing disappears without a trace.
          1. -1
            15 January 2023 22: 25
            Quote from: skeptick2
            Did the mention of Kherson hurt you? So I did not force Staver to write about him in the spirit of "Russia is great, but there is nowhere to retreat, Moscow is behind us!"

            It was not so much Kherson that touched me, but your non-constructive approach to criticism, because in your case it looks more like criticism.
            Any forecast and analytics, no matter who they come from, never give a 100% match with the expected results. Vanga and Nostradamus have long ended, and therefore, any forecast is "fifty-fifty".
            Criticism is an assessment or analysis of any human activity with the aim of improving it.
            Criticism is petty, captious, biased but superficial criticism, which aims to assert itself at the expense of humiliating the merits (merits) of another person.
            And your analysis, since you announced it, I will definitely read it. So let's wait hi
  6. +2
    15 January 2023 06: 05
    And yet, what are they paying Ukraine for? After all, the United States is well aware that this debt will not be paid. With these cash injections, the United States is blowing away the financial bubble that arose as a result of the economic crisis.
    1. +2
      15 January 2023 08: 59
      yes, the Ukrainian budget worries me least of all - 50 states will probably stretch 20 million people ...
      a more pressing question is what is our budget and the future in the long term. in the 23rd, the budget deficit was already three trillion gone ... harsh warriors, are you ready to move your pension?
  7. -3
    15 January 2023 06: 14
    In the final part, the author is right. The fate of Ukraine is sealed. But that is not all. We will have to fully take over all the reworked parts. I understand that sooner or later I had to start on the NWO. But when will we take care of our country? We have only recently built a road in the Far East. And how much land is undeveloped. And we will have to feed these "brothers", restore them, pay them pensions, and the entire social program. Tired of these ,, brothers ,,
    1. -1
      16 January 2023 13: 42
      There is no need to "master" all our land, that is, to plow up, build enterprises, cities, etc. No one is going to "develop" the entire land of Canada, and even a significant part of China. There are territories where, by definition, there cannot be a large population due to extreme natural and climatic conditions. There is the total area of ​​the state, and there is the so-called effective territory of the state. Of the 17 million sq. km of the territory of the Russian Federation, 5,5 million sq. km fall on the effective territory. We have huge territories in the Far North, in Eastern Siberia, in most of the Far East, by definition, cannot be crowded. By the way, the percentage of effective territory in relation to the total territory in most of the former republics of the USSR is higher than in the Russian Federation. For comparison, the effective territory of Canada is 3,6 million sq. km. out of a total area of ​​almost 10 million sq. km. China has 6 million out of 9,6 million, respectively. Brazil has 8,1 million out of 8,5 million. The United States has 7 million out of 9 million. Thus, Brazil, being the fourth country in the world in terms of total area, is the first country in the world by effective territory.
  8. -1
    15 January 2023 06: 32
    A country that lives on blood, on the lives of its citizens. Mercenary country.
    Therefore, at a meeting of the UN Security Council, V. Nebenzya rightly called Ukraine PMCs of the United States. A country that is a PMC of another state is a new American achievement in maintaining its hegemony.
  9. -2
    15 January 2023 06: 56
    Those crumbs that were received for the export of grain and other agricultural products are simply not visible against the background of the huge costs of the war.
    The crumbs that Ukraine receives for the transit of gas and oil are not visible either. ammonia...
  10. 0
    15 January 2023 07: 03
    Strong article! An unexpected angle to the war!
    Somehow I didn’t think about this problem of Ukraine, due to which the country survives. That simply huge money is pouring into it, and it was immediately obvious to the armaments and into the pockets of those who give and those who are given, the crumbs and the hulks fall!
  11. +5
    15 January 2023 08: 00
    Where are Peresvet and Zadira? As soon as they were not praised!
  12. +3
    15 January 2023 09: 16
    It is interesting what is under the ground of Solidar. It's kind of a city. All salt mines have common entrances. They are of great tourist importance.
    1. 0
      16 January 2023 09: 25
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      They are of great tourist importance

      Are you serious? Or don't you understand - that any MASS Is tourism possible only in a peaceful country? And only then will it begin to generate income...
      Those who want to roam the ruins are not so many in the world ....
  13. +2
    15 January 2023 09: 56
    Yes, it was clear there that the outskirts were waiting - even on the Maidan. How was it there? Build a country? Avothren - get visa-free and dump the fuck, drink kava. Ukraine didn't exist then.
  14. +11
    15 January 2023 10: 48
    It's all nonsense, really.

    Judging by the published data, the West allocates not so much money. Dosed. As are the weapons.
    It is clear what it contains. But for them, as guarantors of integrity under the nuclear deal, it is more important not to lose face
    and weaken competitors.

    At the same time, thanks to the HPP, they raised the role of NATO in the world and sent golden streams to the military-industrial complex. And then remember how
    Trump cursed? Everyone saves on the military-industrial complex, does not spend the percentage agreed upon in NATO. Rest on a peaceful life

    What about debts? Debts are written off. Not the first time. We regularly write off Africa. And they write off regularly.
    And some will take something, if they can. Won, they wrote, the cost of the annexed to Russia in only 4 regions is estimated at trillions (according to Fobs) ... And how much is left?

    And by the way, volunteers and PMCs are also paid ... They print, they disperse price increases, but they pay. Nothing
    strange. Imperialism in the yard
  15. +3
    15 January 2023 11: 48
    The author is simply Mr. Obvious.
    The West has long ago repeatedly openly and officially unequivocally stated that it will support Ukraine with weapons and funding as much as it takes, and is also ready to finance the restoration of Ukraine after the end of hostilities.
    So the question now is - who will have more money for the war - the West or Russia?
  16. +2
    15 January 2023 13: 20
    Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
    Surrender, deceive, lie, hide the truth - this is the norm for the current citizens of Ukraine.

    Why only for current ones? This "nation" has been like this in all ages. I also saw enough of them back in the Union: In Siberia, in Kazakhstan, in Ukraine, in Russia - everywhere. The folk wisdom "When the h...ol was born, the Jew cried" was not born from scratch.

    "God forbid contact!"
    With three - a Jew, x ... scrap and Lyakh,
    Insidious railway .. d, although blind,
    Puffy Lyakh - worse than bl..di,
    X ... ol - eat bread with you,
    And then he will shit you in the soup. ”
    ("X ... ly", T. G. Shevchenko, 1851)
  17. 0
    15 January 2023 14: 17
    What the majority of readers knew (about the e-mercenary) back in 2014, the author only just got it now)))
    If you have something to do with the Russian Defense Ministry, then I get scared for our country.
  18. +13
    15 January 2023 14: 44
    From 115 thousand hryvnia so it is more than from 195 thousand rubles.

    The author raised an interesting topic. Many citizens of the Russian Federation, especially in the outback, imagined Ukraine as a kind of impoverished country, where skakuas with pots on their heads eat up the last shred of lard without salt. As soon as they see the advantages of the Russian system, they will happily remember the Russian language.
    Thanks to our Russia 1, Russia 2, Russia 24.... Russia 365/24/7.

    But if you take the pre-war statistics on salary, excluding Moscow, St. Petersburg, Kyiv from it ... then it turns out that even life under the control of a wise guarantor is not much better than life under the control of clowns and drug addicts.
    And if you take into account how much money flowed into the budget of the Russian Federation from the sale of oil, gas, timber, metal, then in general there are questions for the leadership of the Russian Federation.

    Perhaps this is the very existential threat to the Russian world.
    1. 0
      16 January 2023 09: 30
      Quote from Gromit
      But if we take the pre-war statistics on salary, excluding Moscow, St. Petersburg, Kyiv from it.

      And have you seen a lot of guest workers from the Russian Federation in Ukraine????!!!!!
      And about the fact that they started making potbelly stoves in apartments even after the first Maidan .... Any forum like "With Your Own Hands" will easily confirm this for you - ours invented for garages of subsidiary plots, and they, including for apartments ...
  19. +4
    15 January 2023 16: 07
    Three remarks should be added to what the author has said:
    1 On the mobilization potential. Since the country does not need to worry about the production of food, ammunition and weapons, then all the men of a suitable age and half of the women (in the rear, sanitary units, communications) can be sent to the front, which will most likely be done. This is about 5 million men and 2 million women. During the year of the SVO, they lost about 300 thousand, i.e. about 5% of the potential.
    2 About combat stability. Mercenaries fight for money and they don’t like to die, otherwise why the money, but the system of propaganda and population control created in Ukraine, plus American chemistry, radically change the picture of behavior, so we are not talking about simple mercenarism.
    3 The Americans will continue to gradually, step by step, increase our problems by supplying them with more and more advanced weapons, each time declaring that they are out of business. The longer the NWO continues, the more problems we have militarily, politically and socially, this has long been obvious, so it cannot be said that time is working for us.
    What follows from this? First of all, we need to realize, finally, that the threat posed to us by the Americans is deadly. For all Russians, and not just for those who are now at the front. The front will collapse, everyone will have to run around with machine guns, and already near their homes, and there are no prospects, because no one will feed and supply us. Accordingly, it is high time to move from frondism to all possible assistance in solving this problem.
    1. 0
      16 January 2023 11: 06
      First of all, we need to realize, finally, that the threat posed to us by the Americans is deadly.

      What can we do from the couch if the leaders have not yet taught the army to disperse and does not become an easy target for the Armed Forces of Ukraine? Like Makiivka, an example, 600 people were brought together with equipment and shells into one building. Untrained power promises big problems for the people.
  20. -3
    15 January 2023 21: 42
    Exactly. Mercenary people. This has probably always been the essence of Ukrainians.
    Curious thought.
    It is also known from the Bible that a mercenary in terms of position on the social ladder is lower than a slave.

    Curious side of the "proletarian" psychology, combined with nationalism, instead of internationalism.

    This connection and gives as a result - Nazism. If the Germans during WWII did not know that they were actually mercenaries of world capital, then today's Ukraine knows !! And that suits her just fine.

    Ukrainians in this sense can be "congratulated". Even the Germans were outdone. Those at least truly believed that they were the highest race on Earth. There was something in them...
  21. 0
    15 January 2023 22: 17
    Mercenary country! A country where everyone - from a simple janitor or plumber to the president - lives off the war.

    Very pathetic... And - what???
    For the golden billion, the costs are tolerable, the strategic benefits are also clear.
    Yes, and our advertising - go to the army to solve your problems with the bank - not of the highest quality and according to the same patterns - don't you think?
    Or write here
    It is also known from the Bible that a mercenary in terms of position on the social ladder is lower than a slave.

    About Krajinsky - yes. And who is the driving force of our military machine? DPR people - to whom the deepest bow and enormous respect and one private army ... However, "lieutenant Rzhevsky be silent!" A private army is not mercenaries, it is completely different.
    1. +2
      16 January 2023 07: 06
      Russia's private army is Russia's mercenaries. And a private country - a mercenary - is really "completely different" ........ Who could doubt ...
  22. -2
    15 January 2023 23: 18
    The question is not what they pay.
    And why.
    But because much more is at stake than these billions - the throne of the world hegemon, there are losses - trillions down the drain, and prospects ... like 404 but in the United States.
    Another question is that there will be no victory over Russia, there is nothing to add to them, but we just have something, and a lot.
  23. 0
    16 January 2023 10: 59
    receives from Western funds in the form of either aid or loans.

    So it is, most if not all Western firms organize indirect assistance of various kinds of discounts and directly transfer money to the funds of the Criminal Code. When Russians buy Western products, they also pay for the help of the Criminal Code.